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Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
« Reply #6320 on: June 19, 2013, 08:36:53 AM »
I mix it in with my eggs ( I'm an omnivore ) and sometimes in with beans/lentils.
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« Reply #6321 on: June 19, 2013, 08:56:22 AM »
B deficiency in undiagnosed celiac patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11280545

While comparing nutritional yeast to animal sources of b vitamins, I learn that most nutritional yeast is fortified and that's why it's so high?

Yeah, I read all about celiac over the past 6 months - I had tons of things going on suggestive of celiac but bloodwork and endoscopy both came back negative. I took 2 mg daily of sublingual B12 for over 6 months (daily dose needed is a couple of micrograms) and am finally back into normal-ish numbers.


yes it is fortified. I like giving it to DD because it is also has protein and iron in it. I make a paste out of it with a little earth balance spread for her tofu raviolis or gnocci.

I'm a bit wary of depending on fortified foods for B12; several months of supplements that were in swallowing pill (vs. dissolving under the tongue) form didn't help me at all and the fortified foods usually contain the same type of B12. Apparently it is not uncommon to have issues absorbing enough B12 as cyanocobalamin in the stomach but no one has really figured out why.

It was pretty concerning when I was getting tingling extremities last summer on top of the fatigue, inability to concentrate, and forgetfulness (which I thought was an iron problem). My work productivity took a huge hit that I'm only now really recovering from, and I probably shouldn't have been driving in hindsight. My B12 levels were technically within 'normal' for US levels (typically >200 pg/ml)  but just barely, and they were very low by European and Japanese standards (>500 pg/ml). Apparently it is common for people to experience deficiency symptoms in the 200-500 range.

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« Reply #6322 on: June 19, 2013, 08:58:27 AM »
Was me, I'd focus on the B complex. It's been many years since I took a nutrition class, but IIRC the B vitamins are crucial for the Krebs cycle, which is how you're converting food energy into body energy, and if that isn't operating at high efficiency now that you're changing energy soucres,  then you're likely to run down (and crave carbs -- IIRC sugar cravings, especially, may be a sign of B deficiencies, where the body thinks it's not getting enough food when actually it's just not converting enough).

I need to find a good comprehensive nutrition resource that is beyond the very basics... this is exactly the kind of stuff I'd like to learn more about. Thanks!

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« Reply #6323 on: June 19, 2013, 11:04:01 AM »
I'm a bit wary of depending on fortified foods for B12; several months of supplements that were in swallowing pill (vs. dissolving under the tongue) form didn't help me at all and the fortified foods usually contain the same type of B12. Apparently it is not uncommon to have issues absorbing enough B12 as cyanocobalamin in the stomach but no one has really figured out why.

Have you tried shots? This was what helped me. But, I think I'm deficient again. I need to get tested.

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« Reply #6324 on: June 21, 2013, 07:03:34 AM »
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« Reply #6325 on: June 27, 2013, 12:45:35 PM »
Can I please vent for a minute about the annoyances of not being able to maintain a steady weight?

So, apparently, the trick to losing  few lbs is for me to go buy a bunch of clothes. I've been hovering around 130-132, which is 8-10lbs heavier than I want to be. I figured that as my mileage increased the weight would just take care of itself. Well, this week I'm back down to 126. The jeans and all the running clothes I JUST BOUGHT a couple of weeks ago are too effing big.  >:( I know, I should be happy about this... it's just irritating to have everything constantly too small or too big and never just right.  :fiery:

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« Reply #6326 on: June 27, 2013, 01:08:55 PM »
Well, one way to look at it is that at least you're at a size where 5 pounds makes a difference.  :buttpat: I have to go up or down 10-15 before my clothes fit noticeably differently. But I know what you mean; all my decent jeans keep sliding off my hips at the moment, and I don't really have time or ambition to go looking for more.
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« Reply #6327 on: June 27, 2013, 06:10:15 PM »
I know, I should be happy about this... it's just irritating to have everything constantly too small or too big and never just right.  :fiery:

I feel your pain.  All the clothes I planned on wearing this summer are huge.  I wore a cute as a button wrap dress when I went out to eat last night and it barely worked.  I had to pin it.  Sh!t!   I LOVE that dress!  And breeches. :(  Hopefully my new pair is tightening back up in the dryer.

Then again, it's an excuse to go buy MORE stuff.  This caught my eye on an ebay used clothing shop.  Perfect for a summer potluck I think.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/LONDON-TIMES-SUMMER-DRESS-6-FLORAL-PATTERN-RUFFELED-FRONT-WRAP-STYLE-TOP-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/JtUAAMXQVfpRnPWV/$(KGrHqV,!rUFEuVIguCUBRnPWVf50w~~60_57.JPG
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« Reply #6328 on: June 27, 2013, 06:11:38 PM »
OH, yeah, my breeches are all HUUUUUUUGE. All my beautiful full seats. Blech.

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« Reply #6329 on: June 27, 2013, 08:30:20 PM »
I hear that. Good point about being at a size where 5-10 pounds make a difference. It really is like this weird window of fit vs. not fit and it's crazy.

Plus, I am PISSED that I can't find anything at Marshall's or TJ Maxx any more because of the size I am looking for. It's crazy. Nothing fits, until I buy something new, and then that doesn't fit either.
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« Reply #6330 on: June 28, 2013, 07:33:05 AM »

Plus, I am PISSED that I can't find anything at Marshall's or TJ Maxx any more because of the size I am looking for. It's crazy. Nothing fits, until I buy something new, and then that doesn't fit either.

I am surprised: I shop there all the time and I think they have a huge range of sizes, plus petites and women.  But if I were in between sizes, I would consider buying a few used things.

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« Reply #6331 on: June 28, 2013, 07:46:15 AM »
I always thought so, but I'm down to a size 2 and there is little or nothing to pick from. I hate to even say it, because I feel weird about being a size 2, but there you have it.
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Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
« Reply #6332 on: June 28, 2013, 09:38:12 AM »
 :panic: size 2?

Even as a pre-schooler, I've never been a 2.

Damn you, little petit tiny itty bitty people. ;)
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« Reply #6333 on: June 28, 2013, 09:48:07 AM »
 :-[

I feel very weird about it. I never have, either. Ever.
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« Reply #6334 on: June 28, 2013, 10:53:26 AM »
:panic: size 2?

Even as a pre-schooler, I've never been a 2.

Damn you, little petit tiny itty bitty people. ;)

Don't forget there's been "size inflation" in the garment industry; as people get larger on average, the clothing makers have been making the sizes larger too -- a 2 today is bigger than a 2 in the 1980s, for instance.
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« Reply #6335 on: June 28, 2013, 11:42:07 AM »
I always thought so, but I'm down to a size 2 and there is little or nothing to pick from. I hate to even say it, because I feel weird about being a size 2, but there you have it.

That is what I am...  no problem. 

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Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
« Reply #6336 on: June 28, 2013, 11:54:10 AM »
That is what I am...  no problem.

It may also have to do with where you each live. Stores select their merchandise based on the population they're serving so an urban store might have a better selection of smaller sizes than a suburban or rural one. And a store in the northeast or Colorado might have more small sizes than one in the deep south. (Those are sweeping generalizations, but you see what I'm saying. I've definitely found that the same chain in a city center carries different styles than one in a more suburban/rural area.)

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« Reply #6337 on: June 28, 2013, 03:33:34 PM »
Don't forget there's been "size inflation" in the garment industry; as people get larger on average, the clothing makers have been making the sizes larger too -- a 2 today is bigger than a 2 in the 1980s, for instance.

Yes.  I now buy size two, but I have stuff that I bought at the Gap 20+ years ago, and the label says 6 or 8, I forget which one exactly.  It fits perfectly well.  And I did maintain my weight.

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« Reply #6338 on: June 28, 2013, 06:39:18 PM »
I always thought so, but I'm down to a size 2 and there is little or nothing to pick from. I hate to even say it, because I feel weird about being a size 2, but there you have it.

Absolutely.  They rarely have anything smaller than 8 (except in dresses), hardly have skirts at all, and never have pants in long.  Ever.

I can't believe I'm a 2 when I weigh 10lbs more than last time I was a 2.  Hell, I have 6 s in my closet that are still too tight.

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« Reply #6339 on: June 28, 2013, 06:48:55 PM »
Absolutely.  They rarely have anything smaller than 8 (except in dresses), hardly have skirts at all, and never have pants in long.  Ever.



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