Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread

[CheryG]

Woot!  Just took my BP- it's down from 144/83 in January to 119/74.  Happy dance! It hasn't been this low for years!

[diablita]

[wherestheportojohn]

Woot!  Just took my BP- it's down from 144/83 in January to 119/74.  Happy dance! It hasn't been this low for years!

Well played!

[cgraz]

Note to self: do NOT weigh in the morning after a dinner event at Maggiano's. 

[diablita]

oh yeah.  I'll bet.

In unnecessary gadget news, I just made banana strawberry froyo in the Yonanas machine.  I don't have any trouble getting my DD to eat fresh fruit in general, but it is pretty nice having her beg for the yogurt as her one special treat of the day.  And the consistency is really nice.

[cgraz]

Cool! I haven't looked into that much but it does look like fun.

Yeah, I am kind of irritated - I had a great, solid week otherwise, and ran Tu, We, and today, not to mention the 12 I did on Sunday - but just one day of having a chicken salad club sandwich for lunch and a heavier (but not talking gorging over the top here) dinner with wine and dessert, and I am up 4 pounds today. WTF? This is why my head gets all twisted around doing maintenance and not consciously working on losing. I feel like I drop my guard for one day and it's blown. It took me weeks to get to that goal number, half to a pound at a time, and now I'm back where I was about a month or more ago. Just like that.

[triciaflower]

Woot!  Just took my BP- it's down from 144/83 in January to 119/74.  Happy dance! It hasn't been this low for years!

 
Awesome!

[witchypoo]

Cool! I haven't looked into that much but it does look like fun.

Yeah, I am kind of irritated - I had a great, solid week otherwise, and ran Tu, We, and today, not to mention the 12 I did on Sunday - but just one day of having a chicken salad club sandwich for lunch and a heavier (but not talking gorging over the top here) dinner with wine and dessert, and I am up 4 pounds today. WTF? This is why my head gets all twisted around doing maintenance and not consciously working on losing. I feel like I drop my guard for one day and it's blown. It took me weeks to get to that goal number, half to a pound at a time, and now I'm back where I was about a month or more ago. Just like that.

SALT.

[cgraz]

SALT.

 

Oh yeah. Restaurant food.

This week will be better.

[all-smiles]

Cgraz realistically you know you didn't gain four lbs overnight; salt and extra alcohol will do it every time

[Magic Microbe]

Saw this on FB today:

 

[Courtney]

 

[Magic Microbe]

I was watching an HBO documentary about diet and a Dr who researches obesity was explaining that a person who had lost weight and was now a healthy weight would need 20% less calories to maintain that weight than someone who had been that same low weight their whole adult lives. And the effect never seems to disappear.

Awesome.

[Courtney]

I was watching an HBO documentary about diet and a Dr who researches obesity was explaining that a person who had lost weight and was now a healthy weight would need 20% less calories to maintain that weight than someone who had been that same low weight their whole adult lives. And the effect never seems to disappear.

Awesome.

I've read similar things...  I do think it has to do with losing muscle mass, tho.  Did they talk about why the thought this was? 

[Run Amok]

I was watching an HBO documentary about diet and a Dr who researches obesity was explaining that a person who had lost weight and was now a healthy weight would need 20% less calories to maintain that weight than someone who had been that same low weight their whole adult lives. And the effect never seems to disappear.

Awesome.

Yes, I think there are a number of studies supporting this. The diet I follow includes a table that shows you what your "maintain" calorie level is for your age/height/activity level/weight. I think for me the calorie difference is about 250/day.

[Magic Microbe]

I've read similar things...  I do think it has to do with losing muscle mass, tho.  Did they talk about why the thought this was? 

He said it was something metabolic but there is no way to overcome it (so likely not muscle related...though he didnt say this).

[Magic Microbe]

Yes, I think there are a number of studies supporting this. The diet I follow includes a table that shows you what your "maintain" calorie level is for your age/height/activity level/weight. I think for me the calorie difference is about 250/day.

But he explained that it is aside from all those factors. You can have two folks with the same stats for every one of those factors and the person who lost 50 pounds 5 years ago will have a much lower caloric need for some metabolic reason.

Which explains why it is so difficult to maintain if you have ever been significantly overweight.

I think the key though is not to use it as an excuse. Although sometimes that is damn hard.

[Run Amok]

But he explained that it is aside from all those factors. You can have two folks with the same stats for every one of those factors and the person who lost 50 pounds 5 years ago will have a much lower caloric need for some metabolic reason.

Right... that's what I'm saying. There is one table for people who've never lost weight and a different for those who have. It's sad.

[CheryG]

Couldn't/doesn't that also link to leptin resistance?

Re: muscles, isn't it also because dieting can cause them to become fat adapted- slow twitch vs fast twitch?  That's not entirely a bad thing, I remember having discussions with either Looney or Droopy about using diet to better fat adapt muscles for ultras.

If they can be fat adapted, can't they be switched back through appropriate training?

[Magic Microbe]

Right... that's what I'm saying. There is one table for people who've never lost weight and a different for those who have. It's sad.

It sucks.