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Do you have a recipe for that one? Gorgeous!
For a yeast bread, I think the answer is always: both.
So, how do I know when it’s risen enough? And do I still slice the top before putting g it on the oven?
Sorry I missed this! The answer for yeast bread is definitely both. And how to tell is a bit of a mystery as well as science. I go by feel. Some people use what's called the poke test- as in you poke the bread and watch how it responds. https://www.bonappetit.com/story/the-poke-testI gently squeeze it and depending on the hydration am looking for a certain feel. My fridge runs cold so if I'm going to retard a dough I make sure it's risen to just about the point where I would put it in the oven before I put it in the fridge and then I'll put it straight into a hot oven from the fridge.The second rise, or oven spring, is from the heat related expansion of the gases the yeast has created by rising. At least, when those gases are also trapped in the balloon that the gluten creates.Right now I'm all about the discard tortillas. Sooooo good!