SALAZAR BANNED! WADA to Investigate NOP Athletes

[nadra's babydaddy]

Her braids are wound too tight, and it's affecting her judgement

[Coyote Mas Loco]

It's interesting to see the split with athletes who are rejoicing and calling for his head vs. those who are all ''OMGSOSADFORHIM!!".   Pretty easy to tell what their shoe of choice is 

Especially telling from the likes of Jenny Simpson who had some choice words following her 1500 heat in Doha the other day, and Deena Kastor. Some of the NOP Dopologists are saying that those speaking out are just not up to NOP's snuff. But they can't say that with these two. Rowbury does have the US record for the 1500, but Simpson has been better at winning medals, and has had a huge-long career as well. Likewise, Deena is like the GOAT (along with Joanie). 

[nadra's babydaddy]

Jenny was the one I was thinking of.  Definitely no mincing of words! 

[RandMart]

Icarus II: Doper Than Before

Coming Fall 2020

[diablita]

Jenny has certainly been on the record about being against doping, speaking out recently against Coleman and supporting the Whereabouts System.  Frankly I think we need more athletes like her who take no bull and mince no words.

Here's a good article where Martinez and Montano (and Shalane and Kara, among others) talk about not just the psychological and professional impact of the rampant cheating but the straight up financial impact.  If there were law suits for financial renumeration against cheating athletes, maybe THAT would be enough to dissuade some of them.  Would they risk financial ruin to toe the line if the financial consequences well outweighed the earning power they could ever potentially hit?

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Rowbury fights back on Insta
https://www.instagram.com/p/B3KkX09J_34/

Engels fires back following 1500 m heat in Doha
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9626821

[nadra's babydaddy]

 

[Coyote Mas Loco]

(I did)

[Arrojo]

The women's 1500 m final should be one of the most interesting and competitive races of these championships. Hassan (NOP/Salazar connections aside) is the prohibitive favorite, and it's hard to see if anyone beats her unless she trips/gets boxed in/has had a bad week because of all the controversy. She can close better than anyone off off a fast or slow pace.

Next best at a big kick is USA's Shelby Houlihan.
Ethiopia's Tsegay ran crazy-weird taking such a big lead in that semi, and she might have tired legs. Kipyegon from Kenya is dangerous and will be in the mix. Britain's Muir is an aggressive runner, but that often bites her back in the stretch, plus she's been hurt over this summer and her fitness level through all three rounds could come into play. Simpson is probably the best tactician in the world, men or women (Matt Centrowitz is also very good in championship finals). She has a way of being in the right place at the right time.

My guess Hassan, Houlihan, Simpson in that order. But any one of the others could take Silver or Bronze from the Americans. 

Did you post this in the wrong thread? 

[diablita]

Ha!  And how amazing is it that we have 3 women in the finals

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Episode 14 has an interview with Adam and Kara Goucher - I'm only half through but some powerful stuff.

https://cleansport.org/collective-voice

[diablita]

Just listened to it on a long car ride.  Very good stuff.  A fellow Volee member will be on the Most Pleasant Exhaustion podcast on Sunday discussing as well.

[RandMart]

Wasn't there a podcast thread around here someplace, once upon a time?

I'm thinking that should be updated

[RandMart]

Ironman Triathlete Andrew Starykowicz lays out an awesome metaphor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-BoR3VpvZE&t=13m48s

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Ironman Triathlete Andrew Starykowicz lays out an awesome metaphor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-BoR3VpvZE&t=13m48s

He's kind of off base there. I don't an anemic athlete can get a TUE for EPO. Also you don't need a TUE for an asthma inhaler if it's used within limits (which seem ridiculously high, at 24 puffs a day).

Interesting to see the orchestrated Nike pushback on this, with all their lawyers, PR consultants, and some speaking out in favor of NOP (Jordan Hasay in particular), while others are muzzled (Bowerman Track Club). And it appears that they (trolls, bots, what have you) are going onto social media and attacking those who testified against them in the report or arbitration: the Gouchers, Steve Magness, Dathan Ritzenhein. Or those who have spoke out to reporters or on social media: Jenny Simpson, Stephanie Bruce, Scott Fauble etc. 

[nadra's babydaddy]

Huh.  No idea where they came up with that level of organized misinformation/smear campaign

[RandMart]

He's kind of off base there. I don't an anemic athlete can get a TUE for EPO. Also you don't need a TUE for an asthma inhaler if it's used within limits (which seem ridiculously high, at 24 puffs a day).

I like his metaphor about the lawn though

"Even if you stop putting chemicals on the lawn for 4 months, 6 months, a year, or more, it's still going to be greener than lawn next door where the guy who only watered & weeded"

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Huh.  No idea where they came up with that level of organized misinformation/smear campaign

Adam Goucher said this on that podcast interview.

[Coyote Mas Loco]

I like his metaphor about the lawn though

"Even if you stop putting chemicals on the lawn for 4 months, 6 months, a year, or more, it's still going to be greener than lawn next door where the guy who only watered & weeded"

And yes, I meant to say the analogy was apt. I guess it could be extended to say that chemicals were not allowed by they HOA but the neighbor did it anyway.

[diablita]

Adam Goucher said this on that podcast interview.

Yup