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Title: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 04, 2014, 09:25:11 PM
For me: ice cream, milk, salad dressing.


I have a good metabolism and don't put weight on easily, I avoid these foods more because they seem to intensify my sinus allergies.


Now, you go...
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: radial on August 04, 2014, 09:48:50 PM
Wheat, sugar and soy. 
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2014, 06:14:03 AM
Gluten, dairy, meat, almonds.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Ice Cream on August 05, 2014, 07:53:58 AM
avocado, full-fat dairy, red meat, French fries, hot dog, donuts, mayo, croissants, potato chips, pizza, beer, soda, coffee, anything with high-sodium content.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: onawhim on August 05, 2014, 11:05:29 AM
Because we don't like them or because we can't eat them?

I do not like seafood, cilantro, mushrooms and liver.  I can't eat almonds  :(
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2014, 12:01:08 PM
Because we don't like them or because we can't eat them?

I do not like seafood, cilantro, mushrooms and liver.  I can't eat almonds  :(
well i chose not to eat meat, but the rest cause my body said so.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: rocketgirl on August 05, 2014, 03:11:49 PM
Wheat beers (make me sneeze).

Liver (gross).

More than one kind of seafood at the same meal (makes me really sick).

Mayonnaise (except in tuna salad, chicken salad, or potato salad - but these can't be too creamy or they are gross).

Chicken wings, crab legs, ribs (unless they fall off the bone and can be eaten with a fork), and other foods where the mess factor exceeds my enjoyment of them by a large margin.  Also just plain not a fan of the chicken wings.

There are plenty of things that I don't really like.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: redkitty on August 05, 2014, 03:16:23 PM
Mustard

Seafood

Mayo

Liver

Chocolate mint anything
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: fancypants on August 05, 2014, 03:27:52 PM
There are a few foods I like less than other foods, but really nothing I don't eat. However, there are some restaurants I avoid like the plague:  Burger King, Sonny's, Golden Coral …
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 05, 2014, 03:49:01 PM
Mustard

Seafood

Mayo

Liver

Chocolate mint anything


Chocolate and mint is horrible.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Ice Cream on August 05, 2014, 03:57:01 PM

Chocolate and mint is horrible.

chocolate with mint is the only mint I eat.  hmm, york peppermint patties.  Love, love, love.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 05, 2014, 03:59:46 PM
chocolate with mint is the only mint I eat.  hmm, york peppermint patties.  Love, love, love.

Yucky!
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2014, 05:56:46 PM
I love mint + chocolate!
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 05, 2014, 06:14:11 PM
I love mint + chocolate!

I love chocolate.


To add mint to chocolate ruins the taste of the chocolate, IMO.

Toothpaste is the only thing that should taste minty.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Cool Foot Luke on August 05, 2014, 06:16:32 PM
Mmm, cool mint chocolate clif bars. They were a major source of supplemental calories during ironman training.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 05, 2014, 07:09:16 PM
Because we don't like them or because we can't eat them?

I do not like seafood, cilantro, mushrooms and liver.  I can't eat almonds  :(

Because we don't like them or because we can't eat them?
Either.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: diablita on August 05, 2014, 10:21:52 PM
yum, chocolate + mint

I don't eat meat, don't like cilantro if it's overpowering but I can tolerate it in small doses (e.g., in Peruvian food).
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: onawhim on August 06, 2014, 08:55:12 AM
jello
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: srsly on August 06, 2014, 09:34:39 AM
Not a whole lot. But lately, I do not use sriracha when it's available and everyone else is swoonng over it. too sweet.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 06, 2014, 10:04:42 AM
Not a whole lot. But lately, I do not use sriracha when it's available and everyone else is swoonng over it. too sweet.

I just had some pizza and sriracha last night.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: redkitty on August 06, 2014, 11:14:25 AM
I do not like chocolate and mint for this reason...in teh 1980s Bubble Yum came out with a chocolate mint bubble gum.  Being a kid and loving all things chocolate and mint (I loved York Peppermint patties at the time) I tried it. I chewed it maybe two or three times and the taste was so gross I literally threw up.  I seriously have not been able to eat chocolate mint anything since then. I still feel sick when I eat that combo (and yes, I am sure it is all in my head.)  In general, the only minty thing I "eat" is toothpaste.  and no Winter mint for me, it has to be peppermint. Winter mint smells like what toilet bowl cleaner probably tastes like. 

I also do not eat chinese food...essentially ever. My exception (if you count it as chinese food) is chicken fried rice. 
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: onawhim on August 06, 2014, 11:33:11 AM
I can't stand spearmint.  It is like the sickly sweet rotting carcass of peppermint.  Makes me gag. 

Also anything with wet bread or cake.  Like trifle. 

Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: srsly on August 06, 2014, 11:48:18 AM
I can't stand spearmint.  It is like the sickly sweet rotting carcass of peppermint.  Makes me gag. 

Also anything with wet bread or cake.  Like trifle.

Ahh, you must really hate tiramisu, or bread pudding. I love wet liqueur-soaked cakes.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: onawhim on August 06, 2014, 12:47:36 PM
Ahh, you must really hate tiramisu, or bread pudding. I love wet liqueur-soaked cakes.

Why yes,  I do  :D
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: rocketgirl on August 06, 2014, 05:35:42 PM
Oh, and grape jelly.  I burned out on it by 10 and I just can't eat it.  I've tried.  I can't.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2014, 05:45:42 PM
oh and i have not had alcohol in over 10 years. I also avoid HFCS and food dye. Once again, i am captain no fun ;)
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 06, 2014, 06:08:43 PM
oh and i have not had alcohol in over 10 years. I also avoid HFCS and food dye. Once again, i am captain no fun ;)

 :bow2:

 
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2014, 06:13:47 PM
I never had a problem with drinking per se, but i lived in Boston where it seems EVERYONE over indulges in alcohol consumption. When I was starting grad school i felt like there was a disconnect from the profession i was pursuing and the amount of drinking I was doing and stopped drinking. I still went to bars/clubs, but drank juice or diet coke. When I finished my board exams a couple years later, i had a couple celebratory drinks and got violently ill, then many months later i had one drink and got violently ill again. That was it. I had a mike's hard lemonade at my wedding, that is it. No alcohol since. My body definitely had its own opinions on whether it wanted me to drink it or not :D And it was making me fat.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 06, 2014, 06:30:43 PM
I never had a problem with drinking per se, but i lived in Boston where it seems EVERYONE over indulges in alcohol consumption. When I was starting grad school i felt like there was a disconnect from the profession i was pursuing and the amount of drinking I was doing and stopped drinking. I still went to bars/clubs, but drank juice or diet coke. When I finished my board exams a couple years later, i had a couple celebratory drinks and got violently ill, then many months later i had one drink and got violently ill again. That was it. I had a mike's hard lemonade at my wedding, that is it. No alcohol since. My body definitely had its own opinions on whether it wanted me to drink it or not :D And it was making me fat.

That's awesome.

Alcohol is definitely a lot of extra, and empty, calories.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2014, 07:46:00 PM
That's awesome.

Alcohol is definitely a lot of extra, and empty, calories.
I started Weight Watchers in grad school and was not gonna waste my few points a day on liquor. Boston is a rough place to be sober.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 06, 2014, 07:51:56 PM
I started Weight Watchers in grad school and was not gonna waste my few points a day on liquor. Boston is a rough place to be sober.

Soba,  ;)
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2014, 09:33:55 PM
Soba,  ;)
I am not even sure that word is in their dictionary! Lol
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: gebuh on August 06, 2014, 11:25:00 PM
Not a whole lot. But lately, I do not use sriracha when it's available and everyone else is swoonng over it. too sweet.
I just discovered sriracha in tuna fish - omg that stuff is awesome.
I won't eat liver and lately I have discovered that as much as I love red meat, it does not love me back.  So I gave it up ... I hope.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: teetime on August 07, 2014, 10:10:40 AM
rice. basically like eating meal worms.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: srsly on August 07, 2014, 11:03:03 AM
rice. basically like eating meal worms.

Wow. You people have issues. ;)

Only in the America people can be picky about food. Having grown up with not having plentiful food I think helped me be a normal eater. Srsly, there's nothing that I won't try or eat barring raw animal guts or rotten food. I'm not even allergic to anything. I think picky eating is a first world problem. Am I right?
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: teetime on August 07, 2014, 12:30:53 PM
Seriously Srsly? I think you fell off your soapbox and banged your head.

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Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: onawhim on August 07, 2014, 12:57:04 PM
It is not just Americans that are picky eaters I know this for sure.  I do think sometimes being spoiled for choice makes people appear pickier.  If you are hungry and there is only one thing to eat you are gonna eat it.   :D
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: radial on August 07, 2014, 01:44:37 PM
rice. basically like eating meal worms.

Worse than meal worms.  At least with the worms you get that little squirt when they pop.  Rice is so boring. 
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: onawhim on August 07, 2014, 01:50:15 PM
Now I am craving rice  >:(

I once got food poisoning and projectile vomited couscous with chickpeas out of my nose.  It was not my fave food for a bit after that but I rallied  :D
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 07, 2014, 03:28:51 PM

Ranch Dressing (people sneak it in stuff and it makes me vomit)
Shellfish (not picky...just don't want to die)
Soy (again not picky...I am intolerant)
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 07, 2014, 03:40:52 PM
Ranch Dressing (people sneak it in stuff and it makes me vomit)
Shellfish (not picky...just don't want to die)
Soy (again not picky...I am intolerant)

I'm with you on the ranch dressing!
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 07, 2014, 03:51:38 PM
I puked up pierogies in high school and probably went 10 years without eating them.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Ice Cream on August 07, 2014, 04:07:17 PM
Only in the America people can be picky about food.

Put some Northern and Western Europeans in the US and you will find complaints...  :)
Too sweet
Too large
Artificial...
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Kumbaya on August 07, 2014, 04:43:09 PM
avocado, full-fat dairy, red meat, French fries, hot dog, donuts, mayo, croissants, potato chips, pizza, beer, soda, coffee, anything with high-sodium content.

if I wrote out a list of favorite food items, almost all of those items are on it.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 07, 2014, 04:52:59 PM
avocado, full-fat dairy, red meat, French fries, hot dog, donuts, mayo, croissants, potato chips, pizza, beer, soda, coffee, anything with high-sodium content.

I love coffee, red meat, potato chips, pizza.

I like soda but have really tried to drink more water. Coke zero is good but it gives me hellish insomnia.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 07, 2014, 06:13:46 PM
avocado, full-fat dairy, red meat, French fries, hot dog, donuts, mayo, croissants, potato chips, pizza, beer, soda, coffee, anything with high-sodium content.
i need more sodium in my diet and just have a hard time eating salty foods to satisfy my sodium  needs.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: srsly on August 07, 2014, 07:31:01 PM
Seriously Srsly? I think you fell off your soapbox and banged your head.

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Maybe. But I'm the one who have no issues with food.

if I wrote out a list of favorite food items, almost all of those items are on it.

They are my favorite food items too. Maybe were are the weird ones in this forum.

Put some Northern and Western Europeans in the US and you will find complaints...  :)
Too sweet
Too large
Artificial...

True. I should say the western culture whose standard of living is pretty high that can be picky with food. My problem with some people's post here are the normal food items. Not the serving size, or how Americans make their food. I mean, rice is a very common food item, eaten by a large majority of the world population. If you can't eat rice, you can't be in Survivor. Just saying.

Worse than meal worms.  At least with the worms you get that little squirt when they pop.  Rice is so boring. 

:D

It is not just Americans that are picky eaters I know this for sure.  I do think sometimes being spoiled for choice makes people appear pickier.  If you are hungry and there is only one thing to eat you are gonna eat it.   :D

Exactly my thoughts. I know a kid who won't eat anything but pancakes in every meal. How does that even happen? Picky eating in the country I grew up in leaves one hungry and will have to wait for the next meal to have a chance to eat again. We didn't snack until we started school, and we ate the snacks only at school. Snacks were a rare treat for us kids while growing up. So none of them interfered with our appetite at meal times.

Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Natasha on August 07, 2014, 11:26:36 PM
Fruit loops because of the barfing thing.  I'll eat just about anything else. I'm not crazy about chocolate chips in ice cream, or macaroni and cheese. And I avoid French fries for health reasons, but not like the plague ( I don't order them but I eat a few from other people's orders.   :-[ )
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Dagstag v 2.0 on August 07, 2014, 11:46:08 PM
Man, I WISH I avoided foods like the plague.  Even the foods that were formerly on my do-not-eat list are back on because I decided to give them another try and found that I liked them (capers, persimmons, roasted chestnuts.)

I love liver :(  I'm a liver lover.

There are things I eat that don't like me but I wouldn't say I avoid them like the plague.  I try to not eat garlic a lot, which SUCKS, but it gives me the WORST GAS IN THE WORLD.  It's not worth the discomfort and potential for embarrassment.

If there is anything I actively avoid, it's fast food. 

Sugar, wheat, and dairy fuck with me a bit but I get pleasure out of eating them, so I try to just keep it in moderation.  I am probably mostly "paleo" with some treats.

Ooh, wait, I thought of something.  Shellfish like shrimp, lobster, and crab.  I used to LOVE them until a friend from Maine referred to lobsters as "cockroaches of the ocean" so now I can't look at them without thinking of insects, which grosses me out.  HOWEVER... if it is out of the shell and chopped up, as in a seafood salad or ceviche, I will eat it, but my days of picking meat out of claws and such are over.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 08, 2014, 01:05:06 AM
Man, I WISH I avoided foods like the plague.  Even the foods that were formerly on my do-not-eat list are back on because I decided to give them another try and found that I liked them (capers, persimmons, roasted chestnuts.)

I love liver :(  I'm a liver lover.

There are things I eat that don't like me but I wouldn't say I avoid them like the plague.  I try to not eat garlic a lot, which SUCKS, but it gives me the WORST GAS IN THE WORLD.  It's not worth the discomfort and potential for embarrassment.

If there is anything I actively avoid, it's fast food. 

Sugar, wheat, and dairy fuck with me a bit but I get pleasure out of eating them, so I try to just keep it in moderation.  I am probably mostly "paleo" with some treats.

Ooh, wait, I thought of something.  Shellfish like shrimp, lobster, and crab.  I used to LOVE them until a friend from Maine referred to lobsters as "cockroaches of the ocean" so now I can't look at them without thinking of insects, which grosses me out.  HOWEVER... if it is out of the shell and chopped up, as in a seafood salad or ceviche, I will eat it, but my days of picking meat out of claws and such are over.


French fried lobster is very tasty, although some places might not be using actual lobster.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Newt on August 08, 2014, 07:04:33 AM
I can't stand mussels....which makes no logical sense, since I LOVE oysters.

Other than that, I eat everything. I'm a true omnivore.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Ice Cream on August 08, 2014, 07:29:04 AM
i need more sodium in my diet and just have a hard time eating salty foods to satisfy my sodium  needs.

I am the only one in my family who does not have high blood pressure. When I grew up, we ate low sodium/DASH diet at home. I just don't see the need to buy stuff with over 900 sodium content per serving.  And it tastes aweful.

How do you determine your individual sodium levels and needs?
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 08, 2014, 07:52:06 AM
I am the only one in my family who does not have high blood pressure. When I grew up, we ate low sodium/DASH diet at home. I just don't see the need to buy stuff with over 900 sodium content per serving.  And it tastes aweful.

How do you determine your individual sodium levels and needs?
Well I do not eat processed foods so my sodium intake is not as high as the average American and I rarely eat out. I have extremely low blood pressure and have been to countless doctors and the best advice was to eat more sodium in my diet.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: caribougrrl on August 08, 2014, 09:24:19 AM
margarine, canola oil, corn syrup, white sauce
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: onawhim on August 08, 2014, 09:29:51 AM
Well I do not eat processed foods so my sodium intake is not as high as the average American and I rarely eat out. I have extremely low blood pressure and have been to countless doctors and the best advice was to eat more sodium in my diet.

Same with me.  I try to salt everything  :D
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: teetime on August 08, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
margarine, canola oil, corn syrup, white sauce

Why canola oil? Asking because our babies' docs have us add this to their foods and they used to have us give them a dropper full straight! (Tried unsalted butter the other night but it didn't work for them -- though I may have added too much. Thinking we should switch to olive oil but not sure why.)
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: teetime on August 08, 2014, 11:54:03 AM
Maybe. But I'm the one who have no issues with food.

Right, I guess you save your issues for other things ;)

Take a break though, lady. I have been around here long enough to know you aren't exactly without frivolity when it comes to food. I don't think people going hungry in other countries would spend good money trying out fluffy sugar filled tiny cookies either. But you do. And that's cool. Cuz you can. And I can eat everything but rice and get along just fine :)
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: caribougrrl on August 08, 2014, 12:18:03 PM
Why canola oil? Asking because our babies' docs have us add this to their foods and they used to have us give them a dropper full straight! (Tried unsalted butter the other night but it didn't work for them -- though I may have added too much. Thinking we should switch to olive oil but not sure why.)

I find canola tastes bitter and stale, no matter what brand. 

I just realized this is also my problem with quinoa, not only does it taste bitter, but also stale... even if it's not actually stale...
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: caribougrrl on August 08, 2014, 12:20:09 PM
I also avoid corn oil.  To some extent I avoid canola and corn for political reasons, but I'm not consistent enough in my outrage to try an persuade anyone else...
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: srsly on August 08, 2014, 01:18:15 PM
Right, I guess you save your issues for other things ;)

Take a break though, lady. I have been around here long enough to know you aren't exactly without frivolity when it comes to food. I don't think people going hungry in other countries would spend good money trying out fluffy sugar filled tiny cookies either. But you do. And that's cool. Cuz you can. And I can eat everything but rice and get along just fine :)

I think you are taking my comment way too srsly. I mean..yeah, I make money making cookies and that has to do with what? People going hungry? I'm in the US, in case you didn't know. I simply observed that poor people have no food issues. That's all.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 08, 2014, 03:12:39 PM
I also avoid corn oil.  To some extent I avoid canola and corn for political reasons, but I'm not consistent enough in my outrage to try an persuade anyone else...
we find GMO free certified canola oil.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Kumbaya on August 08, 2014, 03:44:40 PM
Things I don't like:  scallops, salmon, jello, whole anchovies, walnuts, oysters (raw), duck, grapefruit, uncooked tomatoes, cilantro, bitter lettuce (I forget what it's called), smelly cheeses. 

I can eat all of those items if I had to (except the whole anchovies) but I don't seek them out.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: caribougrrl on August 08, 2014, 05:16:16 PM
we find GMO free certified canola oil.

it's not just the GMO part... more about monoculture and a loss of diversity which is related to GMOs but not exclusive to them... but even if I could find heritage rapeseed oil, I don't like the taste...
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: siamesedream on August 08, 2014, 06:07:38 PM
Things I don't like:  scallops, salmon, jello, whole anchovies, walnuts, oysters (raw), duck, grapefruit, uncooked tomatoes, cilantro, bitter lettuce (I forget what it's called), smelly cheeses

I can eat all of those items if I had to (except the whole anchovies) but I don't seek them out.

I hate brie cheese.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: caribougrrl on August 08, 2014, 06:15:13 PM
Things I don't like:  scallops, salmon, jello, whole anchovies, walnuts, oysters (raw), duck, grapefruit, uncooked tomatoes, cilantro, bitter lettuce (I forget what it's called), smelly cheeses. 

I can eat all of those items if I had to (except the whole anchovies) but I don't seek them out.

I've never had raw oysters, but the rest of your list are staples in my home...
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: merigayle on August 08, 2014, 07:55:09 PM
it's not just the GMO part... more about monoculture and a loss of diversity which is related to GMOs but not exclusive to them... but even if I could find heritage rapeseed oil, I don't like the taste...
gotcha.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: radial on August 08, 2014, 08:02:26 PM
Things I don't like:  scallops, salmon, jello, whole anchovies, walnuts, oysters (raw), duck, grapefruit, uncooked tomatoes, cilantro, bitter lettuce (I forget what it's called), smelly cheeses. 

I can eat all of those items if I had to (except the whole anchovies) but I don't seek them out.

You're like the anti-me.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Dagstag v 2.0 on August 09, 2014, 06:43:33 AM
You're like the anti-me.
The anti-us.

Also, I'm surprised that caribou has not had a raw oyster.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Ice Cream on August 09, 2014, 08:32:06 AM
The anti-us.

Also, I'm surprised that caribou has not had a raw oyster.

she says she avoids; i don't think she has not had. At least, that is how I understood the thread. 
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: radial on August 09, 2014, 08:40:46 AM
she says she avoids; i don't think she has not had. At least, that is how I understood the thread.

She avoids by never having them ;)
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: srsly on August 09, 2014, 11:00:08 AM
I think the phraseology used in the title is what I'm reacting to, "avoid like the plague" is such a strongly worded phrase. I think the only food item I would avoid like the plague is raw hamburger, and fish that has been sitting in room temperature. Cause they could be a source of "the plague." Most of the replies here had been about their dislike for normal foods that probably a typical diet to about 90% of the population.

Anyway, apologies to teetime for my reaction to her dislike for rice. Sorry, I didn't mean to overly criticize your post. My reaction was to the general pickiness of American children who seem to enjoy making their parents jump through hoops by being picky, and the parents who indulge them.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: nadra24 on August 09, 2014, 12:13:38 PM
Alcohol, coffee and tea for religious reasons
Liver and kidneys because I know what they do and it grosses me out
Spicy food because I'm a huge wimp about it
Cilantro tastes soapy to me but like diablita, I can tolerate it in small amounts. Like pico de gallo on a salad or something.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: Suesquatch on August 09, 2014, 12:33:23 PM
I can't think of anything, really. Gizzards and insects, I guess.
Title: Re: What foods do you avoid like the plague?
Post by: diablita on August 09, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
My reaction was to the general pickiness of American children who seem to enjoy making their parents jump through hoops by being picky, and the parents who indulge them.

I don't know any children who enjoy being picky, though I do know a few who are picky.

My DH simply doesn't care for food much and wishes he didn't need it for fuel.  He didn't eat much of anything growing up (though his palate has broadened with maturity) according to my MIL.  And his upbringing was in a third world country.  I'm not saying that variety and abundance doesn't make it easier, but I wouldn't discount this as a North American or first world problem perse.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 09, 2014, 12:35:55 PM
Alcohol, coffee and tea for religious reasons
Liver and kidneys because I know what they do and it grosses me out
Spicy food because I'm a huge wimp about it
Cilantro tastes soapy to me but like diablita, I can tolerate it in small amounts. Like pico de gallo on a salad or something.

Yes, any food that involves innards is on the outs wit me.
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Post by: merigayle on August 09, 2014, 01:07:50 PM
Luckily Dd is not picky, if she was she would starve ;)
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Post by: Kumbaya on August 09, 2014, 02:53:43 PM
I've never had raw oysters

You are not missing out on much.  The consistency is slime / snot with a fish and salt taste.
I like 'em fried though.

I listed food items I don't care for.  I would (and have) eaten all of them. 
Of the ones I listed, the only one I wouldn't eat is the anchovies, I just hate them.
I do not mind Caesar salad made with anchovy paste, so figure that out.

As for being picky, I am not at all picky with food.  I will eat whatever is served for the most part.

A is SUPER picky with what she likes/ doesn't like, which seems like it would be exhausting to me - ordering things special ways and then being disappointed when it doesn't taste like what she envisioned.  "oh, I just ordered a salad without anything on it and the dressing on the side and it doesn't taste very good." what a surprise! 
Recently she ordered a chicken sandwich and by the time she took everything off it she ended up with a broiled piece of chicken on a bun.  That was a disappointment as well.

:D

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Post by: moroccangirl on August 09, 2014, 03:16:05 PM
Pork
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Post by: diablita on August 09, 2014, 05:22:07 PM


A is SUPER picky with what she likes/ doesn't like, which seems like it would be exhausting to me - ordering things special ways and then being disappointed when it doesn't taste like what she envisioned.  "oh, I just ordered a salad without anything on it and the dressing on the side and it doesn't taste very good." what a surprise! 
Recently she ordered a chicken sandwich and by the time she took everything off it she ended up with a broiled piece of chicken on a bun.  That was a disappointment as well.

:D

:D
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Post by: srsly on August 09, 2014, 06:08:30 PM
You are not missing out on much.  The consistency is slime / snot with a fish and salt taste.
I like 'em fried though.

I listed food items I don't care for.  I would (and have) eaten all of them. 
Of the ones I listed, the only one I wouldn't eat is the anchovies, I just hate them.
I do not mind Caesar salad made with anchovy paste, so figure that out.

As for being picky, I am not at all picky with food.  I will eat whatever is served for the most part.

A is SUPER picky with what she likes/ doesn't like, which seems like it would be exhausting to me - ordering things special ways and then being disappointed when it doesn't taste like what she envisioned.  "oh, I just ordered a salad without anything on it and the dressing on the side and it doesn't taste very good." what a surprise! 
Recently she ordered a chicken sandwich and by the time she took everything off it she ended up with a broiled piece of chicken on a bun.  That was a disappointment as well.

:D

I didn't use to eat oysters 3 weeks ago. Now I'm a big fan. I love it! I don't know what changed. I think maybe the wine pairing served with it when I first tried them helped me appreciate its the slimy/salty/fishy flavor. I could eat a dozen! And have.

A must be very hard to entertain. My ex sister in-law was a vegan, and no matter what I prepared for her that I thought vegan safe was never good enough. Exhausting is about right.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 09, 2014, 07:42:14 PM
I think deep frying makes almost any food taste good.

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Post by: merigayle on August 09, 2014, 08:36:35 PM
I enjoy challenges of food choices and allergies, etc for entertaining. DD's entire bday party was vegan, gluten free and nut free. No one was disappointed.
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Post by: diablita on August 10, 2014, 09:36:59 PM
I enjoy them as well, Meri. 
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Post by: srsly on August 11, 2014, 10:33:08 AM
I enjoy challenges of food choices and allergies, etc for entertaining. DD's entire bday party was vegan, gluten free and nut free. No one was disappointed.

I won't mind serving my guests' food choices for health reasons, yada, yada, yada..if they were appreciative of my efforts. The ex SIL I was speaking of decided that my dishes made specially for her weren't good enough and brought her own food to cook in my kitchen. I don't particularly care for the "snob" treatment that I received after all the work I made to accommodate her dietary needs.
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Post by: witchypoo on August 11, 2014, 01:27:55 PM
my allergens
hfcs
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Post by: Chasing Amy on August 12, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X-jjCYYPqxQ/TZTdktdQgTI/AAAAAAAAATg/yTLQ2Nsj2kk/s1600/bowl-of-peas.jpg)

Even looking at pictures of peas makes me gag.

 :vomit:
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Post by: siamesedream on August 12, 2014, 01:48:27 PM
Asparagus and Brussels sprouts.
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Post by: Ice Cream on August 12, 2014, 01:51:22 PM
Asparagus and Brussels sprouts.

some of my favorite vegetables, along with peas...
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Post by: merigayle on August 12, 2014, 02:02:00 PM
some of my favorite vegetables, along with peas...
ditto!
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Post by: siamesedream on August 12, 2014, 02:09:49 PM
some of my favorite vegetables, along with peas...

Lords, you people are strange.  :D
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Post by: Chasing Amy on August 12, 2014, 04:26:26 PM
along with peas...

 :(
ditto!

 :'(

Now I am wondering what possessed me to search for and post a picture of those little green devil pellets.  :whoa:
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Post by: Kumbaya on August 12, 2014, 07:37:11 PM
LIMA BEANS!

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Post by: Natasha on August 12, 2014, 09:22:42 PM
Asparagus and Brussels sprouts.

Asparagus is supposed to help you get over hangovers.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 12, 2014, 09:31:51 PM
Asparagus is supposed to help you get over hangovers.

I don't have to worry about that anymore, life is simplified without demon rum.

My cure was to drink a ton of water...for the hangover.
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Post by: RFS on August 14, 2014, 05:39:31 PM
Liver! Or basically any organ meats.  :toilet:
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Post by: srsly on August 14, 2014, 08:48:35 PM
Oh I got one!! If moscato passes as food, it's the one I avoid like a plague.
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Post by: rocketgirl on August 15, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
I love fresh green peas.  So sweet and crunchy!  I used to hate peas (because canned peas are mushy and gross).  But a friend's mother fed me fresh peas (raw even) from her garden and they were SO good.  I like cooked from fresh or frozen too.

I like asparagus (grilled!  butter!  salt! pepper!)  I didn't even hate it canned when I was a kid (but wouldn't like it that way now).

I'm working on brussel sprouts.  Not bad baked.  With bacon.  Boiled from frozen, however, are gross.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 15, 2014, 05:50:15 PM
I love fresh green peas.  So sweet and crunchy!  I used to hate peas (because canned peas are mushy and gross).  But a friend's mother fed me fresh peas (raw even) from her garden and they were SO good.  I like cooked from fresh or frozen too.

I like asparagus (grilled!  butter!  salt! pepper!)  I didn't even hate it canned when I was a kid (but wouldn't like it that way now).

I'm working on brussel sprouts.  Not bad baked.  With bacon.  Boiled from frozen, however, are gross.

I don't mind peas. You can drown them in butter and garlic and they're passable.
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Post by: Kumbaya on August 16, 2014, 02:18:44 PM
I also don't like caviar.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 17, 2014, 11:06:17 AM
Cream chipped beef.

Gag a zoogee.
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Post by: onawhim on August 18, 2014, 10:14:14 AM
Tortiere or any meat pot pies.  Also quiche.  Anything savoury with a pie crust is like a punch in the gag reflex to me. 
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Post by: CheryG on August 19, 2014, 04:56:44 PM


I'm working on brussel sprouts.  Not bad baked.  With bacon.  Boiled from frozen, however, are gross.

Oh heavens.  Don't boil the frozen. Just microwave till hot, butter, some Adobo and you're good to go.
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Post by: merigayle on August 19, 2014, 07:49:42 PM
I steam the Brussel sprouts then sautée for a minute or two in a pan with a little butter and salt. Yum.
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Post by: caribougrrl on August 20, 2014, 06:42:13 AM
there is nothing morally superior about frozen vegetables, so if you don't like one from frozen, that's okay

which reminds me, I avoid frozen brussel sprouts, frozen broccoli, frozen cauliflower, frozen carrots, frozen green beans, frozen asparagus, frozen summer squash... probably others that don't come to mind... the only vegetables I eat from frozen are peas, corn and lima/broad/fava beans.  I also avoid canned vegetables with exceptions for beans and pureed or strained tomatoes.
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Post by: Chasing Amy on August 20, 2014, 09:17:53 AM
the only vegetables I eat from frozen are peas

 :'(

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Post by: merigayle on August 20, 2014, 10:04:42 AM
Yep, the only frozen veg we eat are peas, corn and edamame shelled. Growing up we pretty much only had canned vegetables. VOMIT.
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Post by: rocketgirl on August 20, 2014, 03:35:06 PM
Oh heavens.  Don't boil the frozen. Just microwave till hot, butter, some Adobo and you're good to go.

I think my parents used to boil them.  I have never bought them myself.
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Post by: Ice Cream on August 21, 2014, 06:55:45 AM
I steam the Brussel sprouts then sautée for a minute or two in a pan with a little butter and salt. Yum.

I often shred mine first and then sauté them with onion, garlic in olive oil with a little salt.  Mine are vegan.  :)
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Post by: merigayle on August 21, 2014, 08:07:49 AM
I often shred mine first and then sauté them with onion, garlic in olive oil with a little salt.  Mine are vegan.  :)
so are mine, i use Earth Balance butter. :p
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Post by: Magic Microbe on August 21, 2014, 10:51:32 AM
For my husband the list is mushrooms, tomatoes, and all beans.

All three are things I love.
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Post by: CheryG on August 22, 2014, 05:54:01 AM
I particularly like frozen kale.  I find that fresh kale can be so variable, sometimes tasty, sometimes not.  Frozen kale always seems to be nicely sweet.

One can almost always find in my freezer:
Kale
Collard Greens
Spinach
Grilled Eggplant
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Brussels sprouts

It just makes it easier for me to get some veggies in quickly.  Throw them in the nuker and eat.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 22, 2014, 03:24:52 PM
Black licorice.

I do love red licorice, I could eat strawberry twizzlers all day.

I also abhor tapioca pudding.
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Post by: redkitty on August 26, 2014, 01:24:36 PM
so adding to my list...romaine lettuce.  I have IBS.  When I was first diagnosed I discovered that romaine lettuce caused LOTS of problems.  I tried to incorporate it in my diet in small doses (small side salads while out...since it is just about the only damn lettuce restaurants use) and I was ok. I had a side salad yesterday...for the first time in over a year I was doubled over in pain...it was so painful my DH thought that I went into early labor (nope, just IBS rearing its ugly head.) So I will be avoiding it like the plague again (it is possible it was something else I ate, but it is the most likely culprit.) 
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Post by: Dagstag v 2.0 on August 26, 2014, 04:18:02 PM
I think I have to add raw onions to the list.  I think I have bad reactions to them.  Fructans?  I don't know.  Painful bloating.  Too bad, because I like raw onions.  It makes sense, since garlic takes me to pootville.
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Post by: redkitty on August 27, 2014, 09:10:17 AM
I think I have to add raw onions to the list.  I think I have bad reactions to them.  Fructans?  I don't know.  Painful bloating.  Too bad, because I like raw onions.  It makes sense, since garlic takes me to pootville.

Red onions cause me serious GI distress as well.  I assume it is the oil. No idea.  White onions don't have the same affect,  but theN i also never eat white onions raw...so maybe cooking breaks something down? No idea.  I still eat small amounts of red onion bcz i like them and have found that small amounts are ok.  I would not be happy if I couldn't have garlic...love that stuff.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 28, 2014, 12:43:25 PM
Eggnog.


It reminds me of phlegm.

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Post by: diablita on August 28, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
 :whoa:
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Post by: siamesedream on August 30, 2014, 03:37:13 PM
I just had "root beer float" flavored Oreo cookies.



I won't be buying them again.
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Post by: caribougrrl on August 30, 2014, 06:31:16 PM
I just had "root beer float" flavored Oreo cookies.



I won't be buying them again.

 :sidesplit:

I can't imagine a circumstance, aside from apocalypse, where I would think root beer float oreos were a good idea... :D
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Post by: siamesedream on August 30, 2014, 08:46:31 PM
:sidesplit:

I can't imagine a circumstance, aside from apocalypse, where I would think root beer float oreos were a good idea... :D

 ;)
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Post by: Dagstag v 2.0 on August 31, 2014, 09:45:44 AM
I just had "root beer float" flavored Oreo cookies.



I won't be buying them again.
Those sound terrible, but if anyone likes flavored Oreos, the Reese's PB ones are crackalicious.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on August 31, 2014, 12:39:57 PM
kimchee- ack
I can't get past the smell. It is a visceral reaction for me. I know people love it, and I really like sauerkraut and other pickled fermented things. but I kimchee I just can't handle.


I avoid fast food, processed foods, and I try to avoid wheat as much as possible.
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Post by: Kumbaya on August 31, 2014, 01:25:11 PM
I have a new one: Turkey Bacon.
Even the dogs didn't like it.
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Post by: siamesedream on September 01, 2014, 12:37:48 AM
Cabbage.
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Post by: Ice Cream on September 01, 2014, 07:53:41 AM
I have a new one: Turkey Bacon.
Even the dogs didn't like it.

That stuff was fine when I tried it.  I also have turkey pepperoni.
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Post by: Kumbaya on September 01, 2014, 11:20:14 AM
That stuff was fine when I tried it.  I also have turkey pepperoni.

It might have been an off brand or something.
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Post by: siamesedream on September 04, 2014, 07:16:51 PM
1 fish, 2 fish.

I hate blue fish.
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Post by: Bylo Selheigh on September 09, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
I like everything listed in this thread - even liver and gizzards.
A chicken place we used to go to years ago put out bowls of livers and gizzards in a rich gravy as an appetizer at every table - OMG they were so good.


I can only think of a couple things.

- Super-fatty hunks of meat really gross me out - like a roast, brisket, corned beef or ribs that are way fattier than average.
- The black seaweed wrapper used around many pieces of sushi. I hurled for hours a few years back after eating some bad sushi and that flavor was the dominate one coming back up. I'm fine with poki, sashimi and any sushi that doesn't have the seaweed wrapper.

I had something from the salad section of an Indian buffet I didn't like recently.
Incredibly sour, sweet and salty sauce covering almost unchewable mixed vegetable matter of some sorts.       
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Post by: siamesedream on September 18, 2014, 04:40:44 PM
I don't like white cheddar popcorn.
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Post by: gebuh on October 03, 2014, 03:00:51 PM
It might have been an off brand or something.

stay away from that jenny-o crap.  ed hipps makes a really good turkey bacon.
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Post by: diablita on October 03, 2014, 07:29:43 PM
baked ebola vomit on the sidewalk
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Post by: siamesedream on October 04, 2014, 01:51:15 AM
baked ebola vomit on the sidewalk

That might make a good lasagna layer.
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Post by: ihop on October 06, 2014, 12:12:14 PM
That might make a good lasagna layer.

Blech.   :)
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Post by: siamesedream on October 07, 2014, 04:09:26 AM
Blech.   :)

Big 1  :)
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Post by: siamesedream on July 27, 2016, 09:16:32 PM
Bologna.

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Post by: Sir Real on July 27, 2016, 09:35:10 PM
Pickles.
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Post by: caribougrrl on July 28, 2016, 06:45:07 AM
Pickles.

weirdo.

who doesn't love pickles?  I don't understand.
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Post by: Sir Real on July 28, 2016, 10:05:50 AM
weirdo.

who doesn't love pickles?  I don't understand.
They are Satan's toejam.  I will not eat a pickle nor anything a pickle touches.  I'd rather lick the inside of a dumpster, as long as there have not been any pickles in the dumpster.
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Post by: Sir Real on July 28, 2016, 10:17:51 AM
Yes, any food that involves innards is on the outs wit me.
Aren't all animal products technically innards, except maybe cracklins?

mmmmmm....cracklins :drool
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Post by: siamesedream on July 28, 2016, 12:17:44 PM
Aren't all animal products technically innards, except maybe cracklins?

mmmmmm....cracklins :drool



True, I  prefer the outermost innards.
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Post by: JBM on July 29, 2016, 02:19:26 PM
stay away from that jenny-o crap.  ed hipps makes a really good turkey bacon.
Ugh, Jenny-o was buy one, get one recently and I bought turkey sausage. It was so gross. I couldn't pinpoint the issue, but the flavor was just weird. I have another package in the freezer and now I don't know what to do with it. It may very well go to waste, which I hate doing. I am never buying that brand again.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 03, 2016, 08:31:33 PM
roma tomatoes.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 05, 2016, 01:32:49 AM
weirdo.

who doesn't love pickles?  I don't understand.

I don't like pickles on sandwiches, I like them on the side.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 07, 2016, 02:11:51 AM
Biscotti.
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Post by: triciaflower on August 18, 2016, 01:24:33 AM
Okra. In all forms.


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Post by: moroccangirl on August 18, 2016, 07:22:14 AM
Ugh, Jenny-o was buy one, get one recently and I bought turkey sausage. It was so gross. I couldn't pinpoint the issue, but the flavor was just weird. I have another package in the freezer and now I don't know what to do with it. It may very well go to waste, which I hate doing. I am never buying that brand again.

Jenny-o is the most disgusting brand ever. I love turkey bacon but I took one bite of that one years ago and threw out the whole package.

Okra. In all forms.


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DH loves okra. I make it for him but just thinking about eating it makes me want to gag.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 18, 2016, 02:31:34 PM
Lima beans.
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Post by: diablita on August 19, 2016, 04:47:26 PM
mmm okra
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Post by: Natasha on August 19, 2016, 05:25:53 PM
I would have said papaya but I bought one at the grocery store (why? When I thought I didn't like it?) and it was kind of good. Not my favorite but not bad either.


Dooby dooby doo
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Post by: Dagstag v 2.0 on August 19, 2016, 06:15:05 PM
I like okra. I like the little seed balls!
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Post by: merigayle on August 19, 2016, 07:27:34 PM
I would have said papaya but I bought one at the grocery store (why? When I thought I didn't like it?) and it was kind of good. Not my favorite but not bad either.


Dooby dooby doo
I only like dried papaya
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Post by: rocketgirl on August 19, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
Bologna.



Deli Bologna is awesome!  The super thick cut Bologna is great fried.
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Post by: siamesedream on August 20, 2016, 12:00:34 AM
Deli Bologna is awesome!  The super thick cut Bologna is great fried.


I liked it when I was young, I think I soured on it when I was 15 or 16, now it just gives me the shivers.