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Title: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: siamesedream on September 05, 2014, 10:48:44 AM
Should you be more concerned with making sure you put in X number of miles, or should pace be a priority?



I tend to think putting in the miles takes precedence.

What does the high mileage crowd think?
Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: merigayle on September 05, 2014, 10:53:14 AM
I lean towards miles over pace. That is what the shorter runs are for.
Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: Fast Eddie on September 05, 2014, 12:00:32 PM
Yup, it's getting the body use to the miles and not the pace for the long stuff.
Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: GreenMan on September 05, 2014, 01:01:55 PM
If you mean race pace, then no, not on long runs (except that a few miles at goal pace toward the end of a LR can do a lot of good). I do think it's important to keep a consistent pace on long runs, so I'm careful that way, but I err on the side of slower when in doubt.
Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: siamesedream on September 05, 2014, 10:25:57 PM
Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: Ice Cream on September 06, 2014, 11:50:40 AM
I actually wanted to post something similar, so I will see if this yields me some input.  I know running at a slower pace than race pace is beneficial for long runs.  That slower pace, however, I can only achieve when I actively think of it.  Whenever my mind starts wandering in training, I find myself at race pace.  That pace just seems to come naturally to me.

Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: siamesedream on September 06, 2014, 02:01:13 PM
I actually wanted to post something similar, so I will see if this yields me some input.  I know running at a slower pace than race pace is beneficial for long runs.  That slower pace, however, I can only achieve when I actively think of it.  Whenever my mind starts wandering in training, I find myself at race pace.  That pace just seems to come naturally to me.

That's interesting. Even when I was running a lot of 5ks most of my long runs topped out at 10 miles. I supposed if you're more of a half marathon/marathon type racer you can probably do long runs at race pace.

Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: Carson on September 11, 2014, 08:23:48 AM
I actually wanted to post something similar, so I will see if this yields me some input.  I know running at a slower pace than race pace is beneficial for long runs.  That slower pace, however, I can only achieve when I actively think of it.  Whenever my mind starts wandering in training, I find myself at race pace.  That pace just seems to come naturally to me.

Pace for what distance race though? There's a big difference between 5K pace and marathon pace (at least there SHOULD be).

If you are running all your runs at "race pace" for a HM, then one of two things is happening. You are either running all of your easy runs too fast, or you aren't really racing on race day.
Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: GreenMan on September 11, 2014, 09:34:00 AM
If you are running all your runs at "race pace" for a HM, then one of two things is happening. You are either running all of your easy runs too fast, or you aren't really racing on race day.

Also, all your runs are shorter than 13 miles -- it's physically impossible to run longer than a HM at HM race pace unless, as Carson says, your race pace isn't.
Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: Reebok tread on September 11, 2014, 09:59:10 AM
First question to ask is what are your objectives?
Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: siamesedream on September 11, 2014, 04:05:23 PM
I might do some 5ks in the winter. Most long runs for a 5k runner should be at least 3 x the distance from what I've been reading.


I don't think running longer than 10 miles is that useful for a recreational type 5k runner, but maybe I'm wrong. 
Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: Ice Cream on September 11, 2014, 05:49:31 PM
Pace for what distance race though? There's a big difference between 5K pace and marathon pace (at least there SHOULD be).

If you are running all your runs at "race pace" for a HM, then one of two things is happening. You are either running all of your easy runs too fast, or you aren't really racing on race day.

Marathon pace is what I run in my long runs. 
Title: Re: How important is pace in a long run?
Post by: Cool Foot Luke on September 12, 2014, 01:02:13 AM
That's interesting. Even when I was running a lot of 5ks most of my long runs topped out at 10 miles. I supposed if you're more of a half marathon/marathon type racer you can probably do long runs at race pace.



More the opposite, really. My best distance - by far and away - is the marathon, and running at marathon pace is HARD.

To answer the original question, mileage and time on feet are more important than pace for long runs. My longest long runs end up taking me around the same amount of time as a marathon race.