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Running => Running => Topic started by: Suesquatch on September 01, 2014, 12:31:54 PM
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I have always been partial to Saucony, but the toe box has gotten narrower so my loyalty is now minimal. I have been running in the Triumph, before that I loved Mizuno Wave Creation and prior to that Shadow. But I am heavier, my knees hurt, and I'm wondering what type I might need. My feet and arches ache, which never used to happen. My foot is not narrow and Nikes are not wide enough.
Recommendations? Should I consider motion control even though my feet are not flat?
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I just ordered a pair od Asics Gel Nimbus. 15s. Saved a buttload of money that way.
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I've been wearing Asics for years and love them.
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Thanks. I'm hoping they aren't too narrow.
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I just got a pair of Skechers go run ultras, very cushy though I doubt they will last past 200-300 miles. Brooks Transcend would be another to check out.
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No not the Transcend! It's terrible. Sales of that shoe sucked. I have a pair and can't stand running in them. Like bricks. The Nimbus is a high cushion, extremely comfortable neutral shoe. Sue, if you feel like you need more arch support, try putting a pair of Superfeet in the Nimbus.
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I just bought Nimbus. Are they the same? I know the weight has a lot to do with it but damn, at 61 I sure have a hard time taking it off.
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if you have some problems you can run on grass, it is amazing.
i do some easy-medium trail sometimes and my legs and knees are much better now thanks to soft surfaces.
do you have any suggestions for a trail-shoes ?
where i can run on slippery, wet, rocks surfaces ?
thanks, have a nice run ! :runner: :old:
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No not the Transcend! It's terrible. Sales of that shoe sucked. I have a pair and can't stand running in them. Like bricks. The Nimbus is a high cushion, extremely comfortable neutral shoe. Sue, if you feel like you need more arch support, try putting a pair of Superfeet in the Nimbus.
It was the next shoe recommended to me, but have not been a Brooks fan of lately, after being loyal for 8 years.
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It was the next shoe recommended to me, but have not been a Brooks fan of lately, after being loyal for 8 years.
I think Brooks has even admitted they really missed the mark with it. But then again -- just because it's not a big seller doesn't mean some people don't love it!
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I've been wearing the Brooks Glycerin for a while and I really like them. Nice roomy toe box. I wore Saucony Hurricanes for 7 years of my running career and then my friend who opened running store told me one day that I was in the wrong shoe. It might have made sense in the beginning of my running career, but as my running changed, I became faster/stronger, it was too much shoe. I trusted him and switched and I've loved them. We tried the Adrenalin's as well, but the toe box wasn't as roomy. I do wear the Adrenalin trail shoes, which for some reason don't bother me. Granted I haven't run since June and at this point I just wear the sneakers to walk around in. *sigh* Someday I will run again...
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I haven't been able to wear anything but New Balance for years now. Everything else is too tight in the toe box. That doesn't necessarily mean they're narrow; often they just curve too soon and crunch some toes. Wide shoes are out due to my super narrow heels.
I'm going to need new shoes soon and I dread it. My last shoe is discontinued and even NB has fewer models with a square-ish toe box than they used to.
I love the special inserts. I use the "support everything" ones for my arches and metarsal arch. I switched from custom orthotics because I was getting blisters. I'm typically in stability to motion control shoes - probably should be in motion control, but sometimes I'll take less support for better fit. I hate that they weigh a ton because I think the weight of the shoes on my small frame contributes to my tight calves and achilles tendonitis, but I have to have the support.
Anyway, I just try a bunch of shit on that is within the range of support I need. The running stores used to try to put me in Brooks Adrenaline, but they are just a tad too narrow.
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I haven't been able to wear anything but New Balance for years now. Everything else is too tight in the toe box. That doesn't necessarily mean they're narrow; often they just curve too soon and crunch some toes. Wide shoes are out due to my super narrow heels.
I'm going to need new shoes soon and I dread it. My last shoe is discontinued and even NB has fewer models with a square-ish toe box than they used to.
I love the special inserts. I use the "support everything" ones for my arches and metarsal arch. I switched from custom orthotics because I was getting blisters. I'm typically in stability to motion control shoes - probably should be in motion control, but sometimes I'll take less support for better fit. I hate that they weigh a ton because I think the weight of the shoes on my small frame contributes to my tight calves and achilles tendonitis, but I have to have the support.
Anyway, I just try a bunch of shit on that is within the range of support I need. The running stores used to try to put me in Brooks Adrenaline, but they are just a tad too narrow.
If you're using an insert arch support, wouldn't you just get a neutral shoe and let the insert do it's job? I have a cheap arch support right now and a gel heel lift to help the Achilles a little bit. The insert isn't a full and I really need to get one that is longer for when I do finally get to run. It stopping 3/4 of the way in the shoe is fine for walking around, but I don't think will be comfortable when running. And I have a wide forefoot and tend to blister/callus around the bunion/big toe area and that resolved mostly when I went up 1/2 a size.
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If you're using an insert arch support, wouldn't you just get a neutral shoe and let the insert do it's job? I have a cheap arch support right now and a gel heel lift to help the Achilles a little bit. The insert isn't a full and I really need to get one that is longer for when I do finally get to run. It stopping 3/4 of the way in the shoe is fine for walking around, but I don't think will be comfortable when running. And I have a wide forefoot and tend to blister/callus around the bunion/big toe area and that resolved mostly when I went up 1/2 a size.
Nope. Even when I was in custom orthotics, the orthotist recommended a motion control shoe (he recommended the female version of Brooks Beast, but Brooks are too narrow in the toe box). The off the shelf inserts aren't as "robust" as the custom orthotics, so I definitely cannot go to a less supportive shoe. But the off the shelf inserts don't give me blisters or send me into shoes 2 full whole sizes bigger than my feet. (Plus they cost way less).
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Definitely agree with Caito's superfeet suggestion. The only reason why that may be a problem, though, is that they are a bit fatter than the regular insoles that come with the shoe, and might make the shoe bit narrower. I have superfeet insoles in every hiking and running shoe I own.
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I love my Superfeet. They're better than my custom orthotics. I would marry them and have little blue flatfooted babies.
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Definitely agree with Caito's superfeet suggestion. The only reason why that may be a problem, though, is that they are a bit fatter than the regular insoles that come with the shoe, and might make the shoe bit narrower. I have superfeet insoles in every hiking and running shoe I own.
They are not superfeet, but I have 3/4 length inserts in my hiking boots as the toe box is already a little narrow and they wouldn't accommodate a full insert. But they are also "hard" inserts and more conducive to hiking than running. Also 3/4 length inserts may shift more, but I did use 3/4 length for many years for soccer and running (beginning as a 12 year old on the recommendation of my orthopedist).
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do you take out the original insert and use the Superfeet instead or put them over the original. I take out the originals, but now I'm wondering if I am supposed to put them over.
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I take out the originals.
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do you take out the original insert and use the Superfeet instead or put them over the original. I take out the originals, but now I'm wondering if I am supposed to put them over.
Take out the originals and trim the Superfeet to fit your shoe.
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That's what I thought, just checking.
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I swear by the SOLE heat moldable inserts.
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I take out the originals.
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Anyone got a trail shoe suggestion for Mario?
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if you have some problems you can run on grass, it is amazing.
i do some easy-medium trail sometimes and my legs and knees are much better now thanks to soft surfaces.
do you have any suggestions for a trail-shoes ?
where i can run on slippery, wet, rocks surfaces ?
thanks, have a nice run ! :runner: :old:
Mario what do you run in regularly? I run almost exclusively trails these days and recently transitioned to the brooks pure line but those are only good for people looking for a minimalist shoe. I've previously done the cascadias. Also, what's the surface of the trails your on?
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thanks Suesquatch and All-Smiles ! :D
I'm living near a wonderful country-side so I'm going on grass terrain and rocks and sometimes slippery, wet surfaces.
so I was looking for a Trail shoes. i have found the Salomon xt wing s-lab ... that seems to be one of the best , selected by some very good runners...
I'm looking for this kind of shoes... what do u think ?
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Mario, take a look at the Hoka One One (http://www.hokaoneone.com/mens-trail/) lineup. I run in the Stinson model and I think it's the best trail shoe I've ever used. Plenty of cushioning and surprisingly light weight.
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thanks Suesquatch and All-Smiles ! :D
I'm living near a wonderful country-side so I'm going on grass terrain and rocks and sometimes slippery, wet surfaces.
so I was looking for a Trail shoes. i have found the Salomon xt wing s-lab ... that seems to be one of the best , selected by some very good runners...
I'm looking for this kind of shoes... what do u think ?
Salomon is great. I also like La Sportiva Wildcat.
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One of my more accomplished trail running friends was raving about the Soloman S Lab Sense 3 i believe. The Brooks Cascadias are good as are the Pure Grit.
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One of my more accomplished trail running friends was raving about the Soloman S Lab Sense 3 i believe. The Brooks Cascadias are good as are the Pure Grit.
Brooks Cascadia have a problem now with being slippery on rocks.
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Brooks Cascadia have a problem now with being slippery on rocks.
shoe companies have gotta stop messing with shoes! :fiery:
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So I tried out my new Asics Numbus.
SUPER cushy. More than I am accustomed to but nice. They run a bit bigger than the Saucony - I'm 7.5 in a street shoe, always buy 8.5 for running. I could easily wear the 8 in these. I'll wear fat Thorlos with them. The heel is a bit loose.
Having new running shoes is such a nice rush!
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Hooray for new shoes! I ran in new shoes yesterday and I was so excited about it, it was silly. And awesome.
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So I tried out my new Asics Numbus.
SUPER cushy. More than I am accustomed to but nice. They run a bit bigger than the Saucony - I'm 7.5 in a street shoe, always buy 8.5 for running. I could easily wear the 8 in these. I'll wear fat Thorlos with them. The heel is a bit loose.
Having new running shoes is such a nice rush!
You can't swap them for 8s?
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You can't swap them for 8s?
Amazon. I'm not dealing with shipping them back. Thorlos and lacing will do it.
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So I tried out my new Asics Numbus.
SUPER cushy. More than I am accustomed to but nice. They run a bit bigger than the Saucony - I'm 7.5 in a street shoe, always buy 8.5 for running. I could easily wear the 8 in these. I'll wear fat Thorlos with them. The heel is a bit loose.
Having new running shoes is such a nice rush!
they looks really cool and also nice cushy. thanks
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Amazon. I'm not dealing with shipping them back. Thorlos and lacing will do it.
I thought you were not going to buy from Amazon anymore. Did I get that wrong?
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shoe companies have gotta stop messing with shoes! :fiery:
IKR! I don't get it, if they're going to change a shoe, why not call it a different model?
Yay for new shoes for Sue! I HATE buying new shoes. Fortunately the DH and I take the same size and as long as I don't go for the pink ones he's willing to wear my rejects.
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I thought you were not going to buy from Amazon anymore. Did I get that wrong?
I wasn't. Because Mike. Then he realized how impossible life without Amazon is so he relented.