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Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 01, 2012, 08:58:29 AM
Good morning!  After the spectacular success of the WLC (thanks again, Ellen), let's keep the ball rolling.  Some of us (me) still need to lose a few or a few dozen.  Some want support for maintenance.  Some want rocking abs, a saucy ass or perfect arms.  Chime in here with your gripes, brags, whines, goals, and strategies.

I weighed in this morning EXACTLY where I wanted to be yesterday for the end of the WLC.  Sigh.   At least I'm starting February strong.

I was so tempted yesterday by all the talk of ramen and cookies in the CH.  I couldn't get my mind off snacking.  I'm glad I drank water instead!

Last night I dragged out some of my old spring clothes, ones I haven't been able to wear in 10 years.
I brought out my favorite pink spring skirt. Slipped it on. It zipped without complaint. Sure, it didn't hang quite right, and I need to lose a few more before it looks as good as it used to.

IT'S A SIZE 5/6!!!!!

I am giddy. None of my day-to-day clothes are anywhere near a 5/6.

Ab challenge:  What are you doing to get rocking abs?

I'm continuing to work Convict Conditioning (http://www.dragondoor.com/b41/), which is a system of bodyweight exercises designed to take you from fresh meat to ruling the yard.   The corny macho shit is silly, but the exercise program is excellent.  I've moved out of phase 1 into phase 2, moving from standing pushups and pullups to waist-level pushups and pullups.  I feel it in my arms but also in my back and abs. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MikoftheWat on February 01, 2012, 09:11:43 AM
Rowed a mile, did 100 pullups, 200 pushups, 300 squats and rowed another mile the other day. My elbows hate me today. It hurts to straighten them out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 01, 2012, 09:22:04 AM
Ugh. Yesterday was my first diet fail, which I suppose isn't so bad considering today is day 1, week 7.

Anyway, dd's school had a screening of that finding kind movie I posted y'day. It was at 6:30 and we rushed there right from tennis, that started at 4:30. I had a small snack before leaving home, but by 9:30, I was starving. I decided to just go through the drive through at taco time. I figured I could get dd something and id just heat up soup. Didn't quite workout that way so I was 2-300 cals over yesterday.

Problem is- I already have two meals out on the calendar this week. Planned splurges are good, unplanned... Notsomuch
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 01, 2012, 09:24:10 AM
Morning!  I'm down 2 lbs today from yesterday.  Motivation, I guess.  4 treadmill miles this am.  I've decided to be strict with myself for two weeks.  No snacks, no cheating.  No wine  :skeered:   since  Monday I've eaten a yogurt for breakfast, salad for lunch and a healthy dinner.  Tonight is curried chickpeas with quinoa, something i finally tried and really like.  Ive avoided situps/pushups but they will be making a comeback shortly.  Thanks for starting this thread, I definitely want to keep checking in!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Yogi on February 01, 2012, 09:25:58 AM
I have posted before about people at work struggling with fitness and generally being weird about food (the vegan who eats shrimp, for example). Well everyone is back on the fad diet bandwagon doing cleanses and fasts and I can't take it. I cannot listen to them encourage each other with misinformation. And they don't want to hear anything I have to say because they see what I eat (and what I don't eat), know that I run, and don't want to do any of that.

 :argh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: crazypants on February 01, 2012, 09:28:07 AM
:argh:
Dude!!  :argh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 01, 2012, 09:39:54 AM
Yogi, that sucks.  I had a coworker try to convince me that master cleanse was the BEST THING EVER.

I'm honestly a little nervous about not having the WLC. I know if I stay the course I'll be fine, and that nothing really changed.  But somehow something seems missing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 01, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
*yawn*

I'm awake, so I guess that's a start, at least?

I had a friend who did the cleanse thing once while we were working together. Despite the fact that, by the end, she was shaky, tired, and weak, she still insisted it was a good thing. I don't get it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Yogi on February 01, 2012, 10:04:49 AM
*yawn*

I'm awake, so I guess that's a start, at least?

I had a friend who did the cleanse thing once while we were working together. Despite the fact that, by the end, she was shaky, tired, and weak, she still insisted it was a good thing. I don't get it.

1. They are already complaining about headaches and low energy. It sucks.
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 01, 2012, 10:06:07 AM
*yawn*

I'm awake, so I guess that's a start, at least?

I had a friend who did the cleanse thing once while we were working together. Despite the fact that, by the end, she was shaky, tired, and weak, she still insisted it was a good thing. I don't get it.

And diarrhea.  But it's *healthy* diarrhean. WTF.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2012, 10:06:18 AM
Yogi-- DH is on a juicing kick right now  :eyeroll: but otherwise he would not eat fruit and veggies, so i guess it is good.

I am stuck and annoyed and frustrated as usual. I have been really sick and not eating for about a week, or barely eating, and am only down a pound. sigh. i would be a crappy anorexic. All i can hope to gain from this week of illness (starting to feel a bit better today and can swallow better) is my stomach shrinking, haha!

as far as abs, i do my measly ab exercises post run a few times a week. I am applying for Badwater again (this week!!!) and if I do not get in I may allocate my $$ saved for that towards Crossfit or something similar. I feel mushy and weak. I have been doing some hand weights, but i need more.

On the food side, I have been doing really well overall.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 01, 2012, 10:09:58 AM
I didn't play the WLC, but just started the instinct diet last week. (see thread in Food)   I've lost 5 lbs!   And the best thing is that I'm not starving on a daily basis.  I actually feel more even-keeled than usual.

I do have a planned splurge during the Super Bowl, but it's not going to be a crazy binge-fest or anything. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MikoftheWat on February 01, 2012, 10:20:57 AM

as far as abs, i do my measly ab exercises post run a few times a week. I am applying for Badwater again (this week!!!) and if I do not get in I may allocate my $$ saved for that towards Crossfit or something similar. I feel mushy and weak. I have been doing some hand weights, but i need more. 

Crossfit is free!  You don't have to join a specific gym for it, although you can.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Natasha on February 01, 2012, 10:27:28 AM
WLC was a great experience for me!

My goal right now is to maintain or even lose a few more. I have a half on the 19th that I would like to do well in, and I have a backup in April if the first one disappoints. I also got 15 visits to a local gym through Groupon... the only problem is that it's a drive, and I'm not into that. But I want to take some real yoga classes, and maybe some spin classes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2012, 10:32:43 AM
Crossfit is free!  You don't have to join a specific gym for it, although you can.
i think i need some motivation and guidance to start at least.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MikoftheWat on February 01, 2012, 10:34:21 AM
i think i need some motivation and guidance to start at least.

Come visit, I'll get you going.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2012, 10:40:52 AM
Come visit, I'll get you going.
are you anywhere near me? i would totally be open to that. i am trying to find someone to split the training costs with me right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 01, 2012, 10:50:45 AM
I had my Biggest Loser weigh in this morning and stayed the same.. which I guess is ok since I was down 3 each of the two weeks prior.. so 6 lbs in 3 weeks is not bad.  I have been logging my food, but probably on the high end...

I really want to have a good week this week..there are going to be all kinds of temptations at work because it's "spirit" week and apparently the only way they know how to show spirit is with food... ughh..

20 minutes of elliptical this morning before my hour training session with my group.  We did strength alternated with running laps and I was dripping.. We mostly concentrated on abs and lower body today.  We are some kind of cardio challenge on Friday. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 01, 2012, 10:54:07 AM
Oh, for the abs question - I have a 5-minute abs workout app on my phone that I use on occasion. Also, yoga and workouts with my trainer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 01, 2012, 10:58:34 AM
I had my Biggest Loser weigh in this morning and stayed the same.. which I guess is ok since I was down 3 each of the two weeks prior.. so 6 lbs in 3 weeks is not bad.  I have been logging my food, but probably on the high end...

If you're still doing the i-diet, this happened to me about this time also. I lost about 5lbs in 10 days and then I was stuck for the next 5 days- gained and then losth the same 1lb... finally at the end of week 2 I started to lose again. I have emailed with the i-diet folks a few times and apparently this is very common as your fat loss catches up with the water you shed initially.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MikoftheWat on February 01, 2012, 11:01:38 AM
are you anywhere near me? i would totally be open to that. i am trying to find someone to split the training costs with me right now.

I'm down in south TX at the moment, probably heading to NM shortly. The biggest piece of advice I can give you is to not be afraid to scale down the workout to your ability. Can't do puchups? Do knee pushups or something similar. Practice the more complex movements outside of a workout with a very light weight until you feel comfortable with your form.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 01, 2012, 02:20:17 PM
If you're still doing the i-diet, this happened to me about this time also. I lost about 5lbs in 10 days and then I was stuck for the next 5 days- gained and then losth the same 1lb... finally at the end of week 2 I started to lose again. I have emailed with the i-diet folks a few times and apparently this is very common as your fat loss catches up with the water you shed initially.

Yeah.. I'm not all that upset about it.. I am not really following the I diet exactly.. using a lot of the same foods but fitting it in to  my life.. 1200-1300 is hard if I am working out for over an hour.. I did that calculation thing that was provided by the nutritionist as part of the contest and they really recommended not going below the target... I am sure I will have a good loss next week.... as long as I control myself during the super bowl!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 01, 2012, 02:40:38 PM
Yeah.. I'm not all that upset about it.. I am not really following the I diet exactly.. using a lot of the same foods but fitting it in to  my life.. 1200-1300 is hard if I am working out for over an hour.. I did that calculation thing that was provided by the nutritionist as part of the contest and they really recommended not going below the target... I am sure I will have a good loss next week.... as long as I control myself during the super bowl!

Makes sense. She does have 1600 and 1800 cal plans and talks about how to increase the calories. But, increasing your excercise will also have an effect. Sounds like you're doing great!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2012, 02:51:32 PM
i have actually been not as hungry lately, so i think my body is adjusting, maybe yours will too, MoS? i went to Trader Joes on my way home to get a spaghetti squash to learn they do not sell them in the winter :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 01, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
Does anybody use the LoseIt app to log food?

It has an AWESOME feature where you can just scan a barcode and it adds the food to your daily log. No more typing in nutritional info.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2012, 03:27:52 PM
Does anybody use the LoseIt app to log food?

It has an AWESOME feature where you can just scan a barcode and it adds the food to your daily log. No more typing in nutritional info.
i do! and just read about that feature!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 01, 2012, 04:04:42 PM
i do! and just read about that feature!

It's SO cool. I want to run around and scan things.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 01, 2012, 04:21:54 PM
Here's another grumble... none of my clothes fit. I feel frumpy all the time because I'm swimming in everything. I'm loath to go out and buy new stuff though- because I'm a long way from my goal. I do have some smaller stuff that's still too small- but nuthin in between. Oh, and I have a bunch of stuff I bought at the end of november that I wore once or twice and it's all huge on me now.  :-\
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 01, 2012, 04:25:51 PM
OMG. I just found out my paycheck didn't get direct deposited yesterday. This makes me want to eat everything in sight. Holy. Fuck.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 01, 2012, 04:26:49 PM
Does anybody use the LoseIt app to log food?

It has an AWESOME feature where you can just scan a barcode and it adds the food to your daily log. No more typing in nutritional info.



I use dailyburn.. which has this.. you people MUST try mealsnap.. you take a photo of your food and it estimates the calories.. so if you are out and at a party or something take a picture.. it is sooo cool. (not sure how accurate though!)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 01, 2012, 04:27:28 PM
Here's another grumble... none of my clothes fit. I feel frumpy all the time because I'm swimming in everything. I'm loath to go out and buy new stuff though- because I'm a long way from my goal. I do have some smaller stuff that's still too small- but nuthin in between. Oh, and I have a bunch of stuff I bought at the end of november that I wore once or twice and it's all huge on me now.  :-\


I suggest some thrift shopping for the interim.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 01, 2012, 04:28:12 PM

I suggest some thrift shopping for the interim.

This. Or Old Navy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 01, 2012, 04:30:44 PM
OMG. I just found out my paycheck didn't get direct deposited yesterday. This makes me want to eat everything in sight. Holy. Fuck.

Don't eat anxiety!  After you've called all the right people at HR and the bank, use that anxiety to work out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 01, 2012, 04:32:07 PM
Thanks, Mini! I've contacted HR, and nothing's going to overdraw at the bank, but Reid's day care tuition is due. It's not late until... Friday, I think, but still. I have time to transfer funds from savings if I have to.

GAAAAH.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 01, 2012, 04:33:46 PM
Thanks, Mini! I've contacted HR, and nothing's going to overdraw at the bank, but Reid's day care tuition is due. It's not late until... Friday, I think, but still. I have time to transfer funds from savings if I have to.

GAAAAH.

Gaaaah indeed!  This calls for the fist of fury.   :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 01, 2012, 04:35:29 PM
Indeed it does, SG, indeed it does. I suspect something went wonky because I submitted a request to have them split my check into two accounts. But nothing has been deposited into EITHER account, and my pay stub shows nothing. Uhhhh. WTF? If they're trying to tell me I'm fired, then: A) Very awkward; and B) I'm going the eff home.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 01, 2012, 04:41:44 PM
Indeed it does, SG, indeed it does. I suspect something went wonky because I submitted a request to have them split my check into two accounts. But nothing has been deposited into EITHER account, and my pay stub shows nothing. Uhhhh. WTF? If they're trying to tell me I'm fired, then: A) Very awkward; and B) I'm going the eff home.

Sounds like somebody transposed digits.    :fiery: 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 01, 2012, 04:44:06 PM
But why would the pay stub show nothing?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2012, 04:44:55 PM
I use dailyburn.. which has this.. you people MUST try mealsnap.. you take a photo of your food and it estimates the calories.. so if you are out and at a party or something take a picture.. it is sooo cool. (not sure how accurate though!)
that sounds neat, i want a report on the accuracy of it!

Debba- hope you get it all fixed. DH has occasional payroll issues, but they usually just issue a paper check, which is a pain since we have a hard time getting to the bank during banking hours.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 01, 2012, 04:47:30 PM
Yeah, I'd take a paper check, too, and there's a bank branch across the street, so getting there on my lunch break would be totally fine. I just want an answer as to where my money is and how to get it!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 01, 2012, 05:08:41 PM
I have been hanging at my current weight for about a month now. I still have about 8 - 10 to go.

DH and I booked an impromptu trip to Maui at the end of March so now I am remotivated!!!

I am trying to focus on getting my workout done in the am since I am more successful each day doing that. It is hard to get to the gym after work 
Refocusing on portion sizes and skipping mayo and breads when I can.

My therapist I was seeing over the summer ( regarding my mom etc) told me last summer "if you really want to do...you'd do it". Those words resonate with me a lot now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 01, 2012, 05:14:35 PM
I must be blind because I only just saw this thread.  I'm happy... actually thrilled... with the WLC results and I will maintain damn it.

Hard abs is my goal and I'm totally up for a specific challenge for that.

I've done 4 miles on the treadmill, 165 push ups, and a 10 minute ab routine.  Food has been OK if you ignore the Doritos lunch.  Oops.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 01, 2012, 05:15:30 PM
God I want to go to Maui!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on February 01, 2012, 05:22:29 PM
165 push ups? Yowza!  :bow2:

I am no longer participating, but I like reading about y'all's successes and challenges and I'll cheerlead too. Debba, I hope they straighten out the pay check snafu soon!  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 01, 2012, 05:29:37 PM

I suggest some thrift shopping for the interim.

Yep, I was going to say the same thing. The thrift store is your best friend in situations like this!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 01, 2012, 05:38:35 PM
I
God I want to go to Maui!
I am super excited!!!! I have never been and we are way over due for a romantical interlude. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: korts on February 01, 2012, 05:48:36 PM
Here's another grumble... none of my clothes fit. I feel frumpy all the time because I'm swimming in everything. I'm loath to go out and buy new stuff though- because I'm a long way from my goal. I do have some smaller stuff that's still too small- but nuthin in between. Oh, and I have a bunch of stuff I bought at the end of november that I wore once or twice and it's all huge on me now.  :-\

Tailor!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 01, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
Tailor!

Not sure if it's worth it, not if she's still planning on dropping another size or two. Maybe for a few special pieces?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 01, 2012, 06:45:25 PM
yeah, not really worth it to tailor anything. I'm thinking of it as a very nice donation to someplace. I wonder if there is a career closet or something that would want them.

So, I've been emailing back and forth with the "idiet" staff since the beginning. I emailed the lady yesterday to ask her about crackers and sent her a cheerful update about having lost 10lbs. She emailed me back and said she'd get back to me on the crackers but how much did I weigh and how tall was I? So, I responded and she said "You have the right attitude! They weight just comes off much more slowly for us shorter women. Slow and steady wins the race."

I think she meant it as encouragement but now I'm al pissed off knowing that 10lbs in 6 weeks is "slow".  :(

Now i'm wondering if I should got back to a very strict phase one for a couple of days.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 01, 2012, 07:14:50 PM
10 pounds in 6 weeks is not slow!  That's a healthy pace. 

Tonight as I was preparing dinner, I grabbed a few crackers and without thinking put them in my mouth.  Before biting down, I remembered that I'm off grains.   I spat 'em out and tossed them in the trash.  It wouldn't have killed me to eat a few crackers, but I know me.  I wouldn't have stopped at a few. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2012, 07:18:36 PM
I would be over the moon with 10 in 6 weeks! You also have to remember how heavy a lot of the people are much heavier than you and lose faster.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on February 01, 2012, 07:24:35 PM
RA, 10 lb in 6 weeks is not slow, it's just not Biggest Loser territory, but who cares. Bottom line is, you are losing the weight in a responsible manner, and you're not feeling deprived while you're doing it!

 :hug: anyway.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Belgian Lace on February 01, 2012, 07:45:46 PM
MiniD, you kick ass.

For real.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2012, 07:56:36 PM
MiniD, you kick ass.

For real.
yes!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Michelle on February 01, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
First way to go everyone!  Mini in the photo you posted the other day you looked great.  I want that to be me.

I am ready to do this.  Are there any kind of rules?  Will someone be my Jillian?  What am I getting myself into?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2012, 08:01:09 PM
First way to go everyone!  Mini in the photo you posted the other day you looked great.  I want that to be me.

I am ready to do this.  Are there any kind of rules?  Will someone be my Jillian?  What am I getting myself into?
Awesome, Michelle! I think this is just a support/check in thread, the weight loss challenge is over.

And Mini, did i miss the picture???????
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on February 01, 2012, 08:07:41 PM
MiniD, you kick ass.

For real.

1! I totally would have chewed them up and enjoyed them! (And then immediately felt guilty!)

I think I need to do something a little drastic, too. Maybe no "white" stuff for a bit? (White bread, rice, pasta...) I really don't eat TOO much of that, but maybe it will kick something into gear. I think no grains would not be healthy for me since I'm veg.

I really want to do an ab challenge as I posted last night in cherie's thread! Push ups really help. I just need to get back into the habit. The Jillian video had some good ab spurts in it that made such a difference in my abs when I was doing it regularly. I need to start there.

Has anyone seen her new 90 program? I guess it's her take on P90X, but no weird equipment needed (beyond weights) and the workouts are only 30 mins or so? I am soooooo tempted!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on February 01, 2012, 08:11:03 PM
Awesome, Michelle! I think this is just a support/check in thread, the weight loss challenge is over.

And Mini, did i miss the picture???????

pg. 1 I think! Or wait- in yesterday's final wlc thread?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 01, 2012, 08:22:19 PM
1! I totally would have chewed them up and enjoyed them! (And then immediately felt guilty!)

I think I need to do something a little drastic, too. Maybe no "white" stuff for a bit? (White bread, rice, pasta...) I really don't eat TOO much of that, but maybe it will kick something into gear. I think no grains would not be healthy for me since I'm veg.

I really want to do an ab challenge as I posted last night in cherie's thread! Push ups really help. I just need to get back into the habit. The Jillian video had some good ab spurts in it that made such a difference in my abs when I was doing it regularly. I need to start there.

Has anyone seen her new 90 program? I guess it's her take on P90X, but no weird equipment needed (beyond weights) and the workouts are only 30 mins or so? I am soooooo tempted!

Do it and report back.  I'm a little leery. 

Yes, Meri my pic was in page 1 of the WLC final thread. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on February 01, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
Why are you leery? Just don't think it's long enough to get a good workout? Or do you think it's hype since it's Jillian?

I must admit that I thought her 30 day shred was going to be a piece of cake since I already run and workout. I was mistaken! Those are only about 25 mins. long.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 01, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Mini - just saw the pic. You look GREAT!!!

:)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 01, 2012, 08:31:39 PM
Leery about Jillian.  I've done some of her circuit workouts and they were pretty lame with long gaps between the segments, but maybe that was more targeted to the biggest loser audience.  I think 30 minutes could be an intense workout. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: picote on February 01, 2012, 10:21:28 PM
Leery about Jillian.  I've done some of her circuit workouts and they were pretty lame with long gaps between the segments, but maybe that was more targeted to the biggest loser audience.  I think 30 minutes could be an intense workout. 

Ha! I did the 30 minute shred *once* for 15-20 minutes and I couldn't walk for a week! Good for you! :)
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on February 01, 2012, 10:37:31 PM
I'm so close to ordering the JM thing! It's $120, though. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: di on February 02, 2012, 12:01:45 AM
I use dailyburn.. which has this.. you people MUST try mealsnap.. you take a photo of your food and it estimates the calories.. so if you are out and at a party or something take a picture.. it is sooo cool. (not sure how accurate though!)

SOLD! I've been getting super lazy about inputting my calories, this should get me back on track. Thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 02, 2012, 07:56:46 AM
mini- you look AWESOME!!!!!!!

I did the Shred like twice and it was too hard, LOL
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 02, 2012, 08:48:41 AM
Thanks, Bonita and Meri.  I feel great.

Today's small victory is that I had to order a new bodybugg armband. The one I have on now is tightened as far as it will go, and my arms still need to tone up some more! So I ordered a smaller armband.

Last night my feet were sore and rubbed raw from breaking in new boots.  I couldn't put on my shoes for my Zumba workout, they hurt so bad.  So I did the workout barefoot.   YAY!  I'm wearing comfy topsiders today.

Upped my pushups/pullups to 3 sets of 15 (up from 10). Feels good, and I don't feel like I'm straining. I'm really glad I added this program to my routine. I feel it in my chest, my abs, my arms, and my back.

Did any of you watch My 600 Pound Life on TLC last night? What a strong, vibrant woman! Watching her free herself to be more independent and to get out and enjoy life was really wonderful.  And her husband deserves a sainthood for his support. He seems like a wonderful, wonderful man.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: orzabellle on February 02, 2012, 08:58:26 AM
I didn't join the WLC because I'm sort of a loner. Not really. It's just that every time I joined the WLC, I seemed to rebel and gain weight.

But I haven't had a speck of: sugar, pasta, bread, fruit (boo), potatoes, alcohol since Nov 13. My diet right now is protein (usually lean) and a ton of vegetables. I haven't gotten on a scale, but I bet I'm down 20lbs. It's officially time to go shopping. I look like myself again, and while I'd like to focus more on fitness, and getting more toned, I don't really feel like I have to lose more weight. Someone at work referred to me as a skinny girl and I was all  :yikes: :D

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 02, 2012, 09:58:08 AM
GAH. HR still hasn't gotten back to me about my pay check. DAMMIT.
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Post by: onawhim on February 02, 2012, 09:58:26 AM
GAH. HR still hasn't gotten back to me about my pay check. DAMMIT.

 :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 02, 2012, 10:03:57 AM
Thanks. I guess the good news is that my pay stub is showing that I *should* have been paid, it's just mysteriously not in my bank account. Seriously, WTF? What if I'd had our mortgage payment on auto-pay, scheduled to be pulled from the account yesterday? We'd have overdrawn by a considerable amount! GAH.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 02, 2012, 10:08:08 AM
Thanks. I guess the good news is that my pay stub is showing that I *should* have been paid, it's just mysteriously not in my bank account. Seriously, WTF? What if I'd had our mortgage payment on auto-pay, scheduled to be pulled from the account yesterday? We'd have overdrawn by a considerable amount! GAH.

My HR helpfully asserts that "surely the problem will be cleared up by next month."  Yeah, that's a BIG help when I need the money now. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 02, 2012, 10:10:20 AM
OMG. I will flip the fuck out if I don't get paid. They can cut me a live check and sort out their stupidity with direct deposit at a later date.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 02, 2012, 10:10:33 AM
I didn't join the WLC because I'm sort of a loner. Not really. It's just that every time I joined the WLC, I seemed to rebel and gain weight.

But I haven't had a speck of: sugar, pasta, bread, fruit (boo), potatoes, alcohol since Nov 13. My diet right now is protein (usually lean) and a ton of vegetables. I haven't gotten on a scale, but I bet I'm down 20lbs. It's officially time to go shopping. I look like myself again, and while I'd like to focus more on fitness, and getting more toned, I don't really feel like I have to lose more weight. Someone at work referred to me as a skinny girl and I was all  :yikes: :D



Way to go, Orza!   :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 02, 2012, 10:55:00 AM
Good start to the day today with the idiet hot cereal (1/4 cup wheat bran, 1/4 cup oatmeal and 2/3 cup milk). I have an orange to eat with it- but I'm feeling happy and satisfied without it so maybe I'll have it with my yogurt, mid-morning.

Lentil soup, salad & a tangerine for lunch.

Thinking of having a veggie burger, salad, and peppers & onions for dinner.

Weight back up about .5lb from weigh in. Not surprising given my slip-up on tues night (still mad about that!).

Friday is our anniversary. I think we're going to do breakfast as our celebration meal, instead of dinner. I'm waffling between really indulging in something yummy like a waffle or potatoes, or sticking to plan. I *love* breakfast out. Love it. But, breakfast will always be there. Right? Plus, I kind of already indulged on tuesday. We'll see. We'll have dd with us so maybe I'll make her order waffles and potatoes and I can have just a few bites of each and that will make me happy (but if I order my own, I will eat the whole thing- gauranteed).

Orza, you've been amazing! I have been so inspired by watching you kick @ss at this whole thing.  :heartbeat:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 02, 2012, 10:58:56 AM
Can you do an egg white scrambles egg and fruit?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 02, 2012, 11:05:51 AM
Can you do an egg white scrambles egg and fruit?

No, because I hate eggwhite scrambles and don't believe in eating whites without the yolk, for the most part.  :P I would probably just do two eggs and a piece of toast and maybe fruit and that would be on plan and just fine. My dilemma is whether or not it's worth it to splurge on something tasty. I love breakfast potatoes and waffles. Love them.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 02, 2012, 11:09:31 AM
Breakfast is my fave as well  :-*  Yolks all the way!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 02, 2012, 11:20:18 AM
Good morning, all!  Long work day today so no exercise.  I'm so puzzled, I'm down 6 pounds since Monday.  And I've run twice for exercise, no pushups/situps.  I cut out snacks, is all I did, but by snacks I mean a handful of peanuts or one bite of chocolate occasionally.  I'm not complaining, however!  I'll take it.  Healthy eating including date night dinner tonight. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 02, 2012, 12:50:25 PM
I was down 1.5 from the weigh in this morning.  I am really done trying to lose but the combo of yesterday's run and TOM that forces my digestive system to clean itself really makes my abs look great.  Even if I've got cramps and acne.

I was also in the dentist's chair this morning at 8:30 am, without coffee or breakfast, and I'm only now getting the feeling back in my mouth as Novocaine wears off.

I've got some pasta bake leftovers that needs to be eaten today, and a chicken to be roasted and used for lunches.  Even allowing myself the ability to eat more isn't making a difference, I find myself still wanting to be careful of what I eat.  I guess it's a good habit.

I'm also planning to indulge next week with birthday cake for the kids. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on February 02, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
I was down 1.5 from the weigh in this morning.  I am really done trying to lose but the combo of yesterday's run and TOM that forces my digestive system to clean itself really makes my abs look great.  Even if I've got cramps and acne.

I was also in the dentist's chair this morning at 8:30 am, without coffee or breakfast, and I'm only now getting the feeling back in my mouth as Novocaine wears off.

I've got some pasta bake leftovers that needs to be eaten today, and a chicken to be roasted and used for lunches.  Even allowing myself the ability to eat more isn't making a difference, I find myself still wanting to be careful of what I eat.  I guess it's a good habit.

I'm also planning to indulge next week with birthday cake for the kids. 

Did you ever get your DH to take a photo?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: The Alia Statement on February 02, 2012, 12:58:15 PM
As of this morning, I am down almost 20 since Thanksgiving.

This morning, I woke up and took the hill on a four mile route before I was even awake. 

That is all.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 02, 2012, 01:04:29 PM
As of this morning, I am down almost 20 since Thanksgiving.

This morning, I woke up and took the hill on a four mile route before I was even awake. 

That is all.

That's pretty darned impressive!! 
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Post by: Run Amok on February 02, 2012, 01:04:34 PM
 :bow2: Amazing!
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Post by: debbatx on February 02, 2012, 01:04:50 PM
That's awesome, Alia!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 02, 2012, 01:32:49 PM
Good job Alia!

I am down about 1/2lb, sigh. Maybe a little more. I have a dial scale. I am trying to be patient, and a loss is a loss, but I feel like it should be more with the deficits i am throwing almost every day :( the good news is my exercise routine is getting back on track and my eating is doing really well, as long as i am content with eating big bowls of ruffage :D I have no upper body strength and did 4 pushups this morning. it was very difficult and i probably did not get very low, but i did them, and then i did 20 girlie ones. that is HUGE for me. I just hate feeling so frustrated with my body. I posted in the I Diet thread that after two weeks i lost no weight (not the i diet, but eating 1350 cals/day) and then the next week i lost about 3, so it did catch up. I am down about 4-5 lbs total, in a little over a month, so that is good. Just so frustrated that my starting point is so much higher than i ever should have let it get. The fall was so stressful for me, that i just have to thank my lucky stars i made it thru alive. things are still stressful, but different stress.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 02, 2012, 01:35:35 PM
Did you ever get your DH to take a photo?

I had to do it myself, but still feel a little self-conscious about photos of me.  I'll man up and post it in the final results thread once Ellen works up the totals.


Alia - that is great!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 02, 2012, 04:23:01 PM
I did some hula-hooping earlier.  That was fun. 

My novocaine has worn off, and it feels like I've been kicked in the mouth by a cow.  I should have eaten when it was numb because now it hurts too much.  Also, Rachel woke up from her nap with a fever so we are both a little grumpy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 02, 2012, 04:27:54 PM
I just bought DD a hula hoop because she was smitten with them in her preschool yoga and it is quite fun. I should do it more often :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 02, 2012, 06:08:04 PM
Yep, I say I bought them for D & R but it really was for me.  I use both of them at the same time, they have water inside and makes them heavy, so it makes it more of an effort.

I'm trying to build up energy to fix dinner.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 02, 2012, 06:46:07 PM
yes, this one had water in it too!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 02, 2012, 10:00:25 PM
I'm sick of veggies and salads.  I want cheese and chips and cake and crap.   >:(

I also want to look and feel good, so here goes another serving of green beans.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 03, 2012, 09:26:31 AM
I am seriously thinking about doing a HIIT class offered at my gym Tues and Thursday ams (9 at 630  :yikes: ). It is a 4 week class. I think it would be great to whip my flab into shape for Maui in March, but I have some trepidation about my shoulder...and of course dropping dead after the first 10 minutes. The instructor is my old personal trainer and she said she can set up each class with alternatives in mind for my shoulder limitations.

It might be just what I need in addition to running...but I am no spring chicken any more.


(*still not swimming becssue my ear is still not quite right)

Any thoughts...has anyone here tried HIIT??

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on February 03, 2012, 09:29:37 AM
I don't know what HIIT is, but if the instructor knows you and your limitations and says she can accomodate, I'd say go for it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 03, 2012, 09:32:20 AM
I have no idea... wait, High Intensity Interval Training? If that's what it is, I've heard good things, but have never tried it, myself.

Good news - I apparently have a live check waiting for me upstairs at the cashier's office. Whew. I just wish they'd TOLD ME.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 03, 2012, 09:33:21 AM
My spin instructor took is through a HIIT workout once.  I mostly thought it was boring because being "on" so often meant I couldn't let my mind wander.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 03, 2012, 09:34:05 AM
Happy Friday!  Is this thread going to be the thread or a new one each day?  4 good miles this morning.  Cleaning, groceries, then work all afternoon.  Yogurt, a spinach smoothie for lunch and salad for dinner.   :lambie:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 03, 2012, 11:06:53 AM
Yes it is high intensity interval training. It is a 30 minute class and it is supposed to be ...well intense!  I am a little afraid it might he too much for me.
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 03, 2012, 11:10:30 AM
I'm sick of veggies and salads.  I want cheese and chips and cake and crap.   >:(

I also want to look and feel good, so here goes another serving of green beans.

You and me both, sistah.  I wasn't hungry for most of January.  For the last few days I've been starving and craving goodies.

I am yet again violating my no grains policy and eating sushi.  So worth it.  I'll take whatever bump up the scale gives me tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 03, 2012, 11:48:50 AM
I used to belong to a gym that was all about HIIT. I think it was a precursor to the crossfit craze- that gym is now a crossfit style gym. Anyway- I liked it and got very strong doing it. It was a small gym and classes were small- usually 4-8 people with 1-2 trainers. So, you got a lot of very personal attention (it was a lot like personal training, but much less expensive) and they would give people alternatives for certain muscle groups and help you choose the right weight level, etc.

The downside is that the first week or two are very, well, intense and you think you're going to die. Which means, if you miss any classes, you are starting back with the thinking you are going to die part. Which, to me is a recipe for stopping. I end up building mental resistance to anything that's super difficult and I end up talking myself out of going because I'm just too exhausted to do it.

Does that make sense? So, what I'm saying is that yes, it's amazing, you'll love the way your body looks. But, you have to commit to it 100%. I know that level of excercise intensity just isn't in the cards for me right now- so I look for lower impact/lower commitment things. YMMV.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 03, 2012, 12:17:59 PM
RA thanks for the response about your experience. If I do it I will definitely make the commitment for the duration of the 4 weeks because I will be paying extra for it!! Additionally it is at 630am so I am less likely to blow it off. I tend to have a harder time getting to the gym after work.
I think I may try it... Get the last hurrah effort in before I leave for Maui!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 03, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
Oh, yeah, for 4 weeks? No prob!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: The Alia Statement on February 03, 2012, 12:49:36 PM
You and me both, sistah.  I wasn't hungry for most of January.  For the last few days I've been starving and craving goodies.

I am yet again violating my no grains policy and eating sushi.  So worth it.  I'll take whatever bump up the scale gives me tomorrow.


And I am so done with analyzing every damn thing that passes my lips.

I need a cheat day.  Bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MikoftheWat on February 03, 2012, 01:15:06 PM
My arms are still sore from Tuesday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 03, 2012, 01:22:43 PM
harmony - does the spinach smoothie taste like spinach??  What do you put into it?  I'd like to try something like that for more veggies but I think the green color is what puts me off.  Also, I much prefer sweet smoothies to savory ones.


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MikoftheWat on February 03, 2012, 01:27:33 PM
harmony - does the spinach smoothie taste like spinach??  What do you put into it?  I'd like to try something like that for more veggies but I think the green color is what puts me off.  Also, I much prefer sweet smoothies to savory ones.




I've thrown spinach and kale in regular smoothies. Can't even taste it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Natasha on February 03, 2012, 02:46:11 PM
My spin instructor took is through a HIIT workout once.  I mostly thought it was boring because being "on" so often meant I couldn't let my mind wander.

Boring's not the right word. I know what you mean though. I think sustained focus is really good for the brain, but it's tiring.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: markalan on February 03, 2012, 03:09:40 PM
I started the Weight Watchers for Men last week - as of this past Wed down 8lbs
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Post by: Run Amok on February 03, 2012, 03:22:07 PM
I started the Weight Watchers for Men last week - as of this past Wed down 8lbs

Welcome! Also, congrats! You're doing great!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 03, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
I started the Weight Watchers for Men last week - as of this past Wed down 8lbs
:bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ileneforward on February 03, 2012, 05:12:42 PM
I started the Weight Watchers for Men last week - as of this past Wed down 8lbs

Cool!  <I think I hate you>
 :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 03, 2012, 05:21:16 PM
<I think I hate you>

Right?! It took me a month to lose that weight!!
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 03, 2012, 05:28:58 PM
And I am so done with analyzing every damn thing that passes my lips.

I need a cheat day.  Bad.

I'm "letting" myself have a salad.  I didn't during the last several weeks because I couldn't get an exact calorie count.

Screw that.  Spinach salad is not what's gonna make me get fat again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 03, 2012, 05:34:02 PM
if i can lay off the pirate's booty, life will be grand. looks like a big bowl of steamed crap for dinner!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 03, 2012, 05:35:05 PM
Calorie counting is an inexact science Jamers! But, I know what you mean.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 03, 2012, 06:01:06 PM
I worked out hard every day this week. Yay me!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 03, 2012, 06:03:21 PM
I worked out hard every day this week. Yay me!
good job!!! i got all my scheduled workouts in too. jeez, i am so hungry, sweet potatoes won't roast any faster though :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 03, 2012, 06:13:41 PM
I'm feeling good an strong!  I maintained in my biggest loser contest, but that was weds and when I weighed my self this morning I was down a little more than 2 lbs since weds.. so I have come to realize one weigh in is not worth getting discouraged over.

I am trying to plan for super bowl sunday.. due to our intense interest in the game, my daughter and I are probably just watching at home where we won't be distracted.  I planned to make TJ's 17 bean and barley soup because if I overate from nerves with that it would not be too bad. But she wants Chinese "just like we used to do when we lived in Massachusetts" I think I have gotten her to compromise on sushi, which is better than chinese. I intend to be very careful between now and Sunday and work out a lot , in case I want to have a little splurge.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 03, 2012, 06:15:52 PM
Go Pats!  8)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: The Alia Statement on February 03, 2012, 07:21:31 PM
I'm "letting" myself have a salad.  I didn't during the last several weeks because I couldn't get an exact calorie count.

Screw that.  Spinach salad is not what's gonna make me get fat again.

Personally, since I eat it dry, I don't even think I should have to count a salad that doesn't have anything but veggies in it. 

I was fantasizing about a cupcake today. A chocolate cupcake with a three inch head of frosting...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 03, 2012, 07:55:25 PM
Personally, since I eat it dry, I don't even think I should have to count a salad that doesn't have anything but veggies in it. 

I was fantasizing about a cupcake today. A chocolate cupcake with a three inch head of frosting...
you had me at three inch head of frosting (http://bestsmileys.com/drooling/3.gif)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 03, 2012, 08:44:14 PM
Personally, since I eat it dry, I don't even think I should have to count a salad that doesn't have anything but veggies in it. 

I was fantasizing about a cupcake today. A chocolate cupcake with a three inch head of frosting...

Whne I have a large salad I don't really count it.. I put if in as large garden salad and comes out like 30-60 cal. I just count the 1 tsp of olive oil and whatever I put in it.

I am assuming Jamers probably means a restautant spinach salad that might have cheese bacon bits etc.. for that you guys should really try the mealsnap app.  I'm not sure how accurate it is, but its pretty cool and it estimates the calories based on the photo (this is the 3rd time I mentioned this app but no one listens to me  :fiery: )
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 03, 2012, 08:45:23 PM
Whne I have a large salad I don't really count it.. I put if in as large garden salad and comes out like 30-60 cal. I just count the 1 tsp of olive oil and whatever I put in it.

I am assuming Jamers probably means a restautant spinach salad that might have cheese bacon bits etc.. for that you guys should really try the mealsnap app.  I'm not sure how accurate it is, but its pretty cool and it estimates the calories based on the photo (this is the 3rd time I mentioned this app but no one listens to me  :fiery: )

I want to try that app.  Have you tried it? Does it really work? I am skeptical. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 03, 2012, 08:51:58 PM
I made a nice healthy & tasty pasta with lots of veggies for dinner.  Pretty good eating day so far.  I got in a 4 mile run this afternoon that was tough but I finished.

I'm planning a splurge day on Tuesday....I'm going to make the kids' birthday cake and darn well intend on eating it! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 03, 2012, 09:01:03 PM
My meal-salads are usually around 200 calories, but I always include nuts and dried fruits.  The veggies themselves aren't that caloric.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 03, 2012, 09:04:29 PM
I want to try that app.  Have you tried it? Does it really work? I am skeptical. 

I have it and I used it but I am not sure how accurate it is. I snapped a large soft pretzel and it came out to 360.. which is probably about right, but I also snapped a small plate of nachos and I think it was low.  I snapped some home made bean and veggie soup and it came out to 190-285, which was probably about right.. it's a bit better than guessing I think.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 03, 2012, 09:18:02 PM
I have it and I used it but I am not sure how accurate it is. I snapped a large soft pretzel and it came out to 360.. which is probably about right, but I also snapped a small plate of nachos and I think it was low.  I snapped some home made bean and veggie soup and it came out to 190-285, which was probably about right.. it's a bit better than guessing I think.

interesting.  How much was it?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 03, 2012, 10:07:40 PM
harmony - does the spinach smoothie taste like spinach??  What do you put into it?  I'd like to try something like that for more veggies but I think the green color is what puts me off.  Also, I much prefer sweet smoothies to savory ones.


It was really good.  I got it from iowagirleats.com, posted in cherietrees thread.  Spinach, frozen banana, peanut butter, vanilla yogurt, almond milk.  Really green but tasted good and feels really healthy.  A little thin, I might bump up the yogurt and back off the milk a bit.  I used the full 4 cups of spinach.  Kept me full from 1 or so til dinner at 7 with no problem.  I also love spinach, though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 03, 2012, 11:23:22 PM
I should've mentioned that I really, really love my.sunflower seeds. And that croutons are the reason God invented salad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 04, 2012, 07:15:47 AM
Hot yoga this morning!  Only an hour class, shorter than the normal 90 minutes but I'm excited about that. That extra 30 minutes always feels like such a time suck.  Yogurt for breakfast, monster spinach smoothie for lunch and sushi for dinner!  Down another pound this morning, very weird but great.  Tempted to run later but probably better to stick a rest day in and do six miles tomorrow.  Working my way back! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 04, 2012, 08:14:55 AM
Yay!  Didn't get punished for sushi yesterday, down a half pound.   Hiking today, then visit the in-laws.  Cauliflower crust pizza for dinner!  I can't wait.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on February 04, 2012, 09:13:21 AM
Yay!  Didn't get punished for sushi yesterday, down a half pound.   Hiking today, then visit the in-laws.  Cauliflower crust pizza for dinner!  I can't wait.

Que'est-ce que c'est, cauliflower crust? Sounds interesting!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 04, 2012, 09:16:42 AM
i made my own cauliflower crust pizza (most recipes have cheese and egg, which are not vegan) where i steamed and pureed a head of cauliflower, then i stirred in some ww flour (3 tbs i believe) and some cornstarch (2-3 tbs) and some seasonings (basil, salt, garlic, oregano). Then i baked on a parchment paper lined cookie sheet for 25-30  minutes at 350, then i put on the sauce and cheeze and baked for 5-10 more minutes. It is a little mushy, but the cornstarch helped, as the first time i made it i just used flour. It was quite tasty, imo.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 04, 2012, 09:18:47 AM
oh and for my morning oatmeal, i read on line, instead of any sweeteners, to melt and carmelize a banana and it is super yummy and naturally sweet!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 04, 2012, 10:32:42 AM
oh and for my morning oatmeal, i read on line, instead of any sweeteners, to melt and carmelize a banana and it is super yummy and naturally sweet!!!!

That sounds very good, but why is that better, calorie-wise, than adding honey or sugar?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 04, 2012, 10:40:52 AM
Down a pound and then some this am. About to take care of that with a delicious b-fast out. It will be worth it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 04, 2012, 10:50:29 AM
That sounds very good, but why is that better, calorie-wise, than adding honey or sugar?
it would be for those avoiding sugar, not from a pure calorie counting stand point. I really think sugar is the reason i cannot lose weight or have trouble. when i completely eliminate it from my diet, i lose weight, more so than calorie counting alone. And i would often use a banana anyways in my oatmeal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: omega lambda on February 04, 2012, 01:17:11 PM
Another late comer - I didn't see this thread until now.  I am excited for continued support.  From the WLC, I was two pounds to my goal.  I'm weighing myself weekly, so I'm not sure where I am today.  It's been hard to stay away from the scale because watching it go down is very motivating, but I felt like I was getting obsessed with weighing as well.  I definitely need to find a balance.

I heard something on the radio this morning, and I'm pretty sure it is just saying the same thing differently than what Dukan says, but the message was that the hormones that regulate your appetite take up to a year to adjust.  So while we're watching what we eat and we're losing weight, our appetites haven't readjusted completely and that's why so many people gain the weight back.  So having this support is great for maintaining as well as losing. 

Also, my goal weight was selected based on a bunch of factors and I'm not sure if I want to adjust it down or not.  I want to maintain at my goal weight for awhile, and step up my exercise and work outs and just see what happens from there.  I haven't bought any new clothes yet, but am wearing stuff I couldn't wear for quite awhile.  Still, these clothes are a larger size than what I wore 20 years ago.  I don't know if a smaller me is really doable without sacrificing too much, though. 

Orza - congratulations!  Your willpower is incredible and I'm so glad your efforts paid off! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 04, 2012, 02:34:38 PM
Breakfast wasn't as bad as it could have been. I ended up having a veggie omelete. It was topped with cheese and had potatoes, toast (wheat) and fruit on the side. I started with the fruit and ate about 1/3 of the omelete, maybe 1/4 of the potatoes, 1/2 the toast most of the fruit. I'm starting to realize that following my eating plan just changes things for me. I am full sooner and I can only eat a couple of bites of something very rich- like full fat cheese. This is heartening.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 04, 2012, 02:39:13 PM
Yeah for a successful breakfast out! I went to costco and resisted all sorts of temptation! I also came home to a huge bowl of spaghetti and only took a taste while heating up lunch. Almost ate the pasta instead!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 04, 2012, 02:50:18 PM
interesting.  How much was it?

It's either 1.99 or 2.99.  I have been trying it out on quite a few things and I think it might measure low, but we were talking this morning and for me, at least taking the photo and seeing a calorie count makes me at least mindful of what I am eating and putting in to my body.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: orzabellle on February 04, 2012, 02:59:33 PM
Hooray yvonne-marie!

I didn't pick a goal weight, because I chose to pretend the scale did not exist, but my goal was that my tiniest pair of jeans, the ones I hadn't worn in a few years (and even then, only gingerly, with careful hang-drying) could be tossed into a hot dryer, and pulled on when dry without any problem. I am just geustimating the 20llbs, but I am quite certain I am, if anything, underestimating.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: omega lambda on February 04, 2012, 03:07:13 PM
Hooray yvonne-marie!

I didn't pick a goal weight, because I chose to pretend the scale did not exist, but my goal was that my tiniest pair of jeans, the ones I hadn't worn in a few years (and even then, only gingerly, with careful hang-drying) could be tossed into a hot dryer, and pulled on when dry without any problem. I am just geustimating the 20llbs, but I am quite certain I am, if anything, underestimating.



Thanks!

And I've been doing the same thing for my size versus my weight.  I don't want to get hung up on a number, and when I was my thinnest, I also wasn't all that active.  I have more muscle mass now than I did 20 years ago, so I have to account for that.  Funny about the pants - I was/am doing the same thing!   I have pants that I could wear but only if they were line-dried.  Now I toss them in the dryer at the highest heat to get them smaller.    :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 04, 2012, 03:21:37 PM
I like using pants as a guideline, too. I have a couple of pairs of pre-kid pants that are my milestones for where my ass ought to be. They fit fine right now but I would like them to be loose.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 04, 2012, 03:39:53 PM
I didn't sleep worth a darn last night because of head congestion and it has made my throat & stomach feel bad.  blech.

I went out to pick up a few things for the kids and tried on a couple clothes myself.  First I can't find a 32D (or 32C) bra anywhere.  I don't think it exists....what a ridiculous size.  Then I tried on a dress because I know I'll need some interview clothes at some point.  It was a size 2, and fit perfectly yet I still couldn't bring myself to buy it.  I am a terrible shopper for my own clothes.  I don't think the head cold or Saturday shopping crowd helped my attitude.

I also skipped lunch while I was out so now I'm starving and the pack of jelly beans aren't cutting it.  Time for some leftover pasta.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 04, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
Bolloxed, I am a terrible shopper for myself too. Given my druthers I would wear black all the time because it is so easy.

We went to run at the Headwaters with the dogs this morning. It was a nice run..blue skies and hardly anyone out. We did a little costco shop and then came home and made egg white scramble with spinach. Then I took a nap! I slept hard! I have to gather some tax stuff together today....have been putting it off and DH keeps asking me. I *may* attempt a 2nd workout later..Jillian dvd of some sort.


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clb on February 04, 2012, 05:37:03 PM
Confession rant: Ate healthy all day. Planned healthy supper later with DH. Worked out at gym this afternoon.

THEN I scarfed down a sleeve of Ritz crackers slathered in butter. One by one. Yum. Butter.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 04, 2012, 06:18:10 PM
Confession rant: Ate healthy all day. Planned healthy supper later with DH. Worked out at gym this afternoon.

THEN I scarfed down a sleeve of Ritz crackers slathered in butter. One by one. Yum. Butter.



Butter? Ewww.. I'd have done peanut butter and jelly on the ritz...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 04, 2012, 06:53:58 PM
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/MiniDriver066/2012-02-04_18-15-43_865.jpg)

Thumbs sideways.  Tasty, but not pizza.  Edible, but not a meal to repeat often.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 04, 2012, 06:55:43 PM
my cauliflower pizza was good!!!!! mushy, but good :D

Well, I did ok today. While making dinner (spaghetti squash) i was so hungry i ate some more of the pasta on the counter and then i ate 1/2 of DD's pita pizza (not too terrible, seeing as the spaghetti squash has like 10 calories in it :D ) I have a long run tomorrow, so it will be fine.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 04, 2012, 06:56:19 PM
I would eat Ritz with butter OR with PB&J. Or with anything else, really. They rock.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 04, 2012, 06:57:32 PM
So, breakfast tided me over until about 3pm and then? S.t.a.r.v.i.n.g. Low blood sugar raging bitch. Since I'm already having a splurgy day I decide to try the green monster smoothy you guys are raving about. I discover we have no bananas. I decide to try an apple instead. So, I put an orange, and an apple and 1/2 container of greek yogurt and the pb (won't do that again, ick) and some coconut milk into the blender. My blender sucks so it's taking a long time and then it's too thick so back in the blender with more milk until it's sort of a drinkable texture. Since I don't have a vitamix, it left me with tiny flecks of green stuck in my teeth- so it also required brushing my teeth after consuming. Suddenly, I'm thinking "monster" isn't a horrible name. But, since this one smoothie is equal to my breakfast, morning snack and half of my afternoon snack... perhaps it's just as well I didn't fall in love since it's too many calories for me to incorperate regularly anyway.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 04, 2012, 07:00:42 PM
that sounds so nasty  :D

oh and ritz + butter is DELICIOUS!!!!! I learned that at summer camp. And wheat thins and butter, yummo!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 04, 2012, 07:10:36 PM
Aren't Ritz "butter" crackers anyway?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clb on February 04, 2012, 07:11:58 PM
Aren't Ritz "butter" crackers anyway?

Yes :D

And I thought the very same thing to myself. But that didn't stop me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 04, 2012, 07:36:51 PM
Yes :D

And I thought the very same thing to myself. But that didn't stop me.
butter + wheat thins = even better!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 05, 2012, 08:57:27 AM
Today when I hopped on the scale (notice how I don't mind hopping on the scale when I am feeling strong about my eating!) I was down 3 lbs from yesterday!  I knew my zero loss from my weigh in Weds would catch up to me.  This is just what I need to keep me on the straight and narrow during the game today... I need to be careful to not use it as an excuse to have room to indulge.

I think maybe, maybe I am just finally grasping the concept that successful weight loss is 80-85% food and no amounts of exercise can offset gobs and gobs of fried foods, sugar and fats!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on February 05, 2012, 09:43:12 AM
Breakfast wasn't as bad as it could have been. I ended up having a veggie omelete. It was topped with cheese and had potatoes, toast (wheat) and fruit on the side. I started with the fruit and ate about 1/3 of the omelete, maybe 1/4 of the potatoes, 1/2 the toast most of the fruit. I'm starting to realize that following my eating plan just changes things for me. I am full sooner and I can only eat a couple of bites of something very rich- like full fat cheese. This is heartening.

I do think it's great that you resisted temptation. But the last sentence is kind of sad to me. I guess I just don't want to get to the point where I don't enjoy good food and am satisfied with mediocre "low fat" stuff. I don't mean this to sound snarky or anything. I guess it's just something I think about when I'm trying to change eating habits (cos I really try not to diet since that usually doesn't last once the "diet" is over.) I'm definitely mindful of not wasting calories on something junky like cheap chocolate or something I don't even really like, though.

And as for my goals, it's funny. As soon as the wlc was over, I found I was less hungry! Isn't that weird?! I've been eating at my calories (or under once exercise is figured in!) all week. I'm down almost another pound, too! And, I'm back down to the next decade on the scale. I really want to get at least another 15 down before the summer. 11 mile long run planned for later this morning (once breakfast settles).  :nails: After yesterday's tough 5 miles, I'm nervous! Silly, huh? I've got my Amy's no cheese pizza all ready to go for after, though. (I will add cheese!)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 05, 2012, 10:40:29 AM
Game Day, people!!!!!


DH has a million snacks planned. I did my long run yesterday and was going to rest today but am thinking maybe I ought to push my rest day to Monday and get out there today for a while to do some preemptive damage control.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 05, 2012, 11:08:15 AM
MoS-- i agree, it is all about calories, not as much as exercise.

I had some toast before my long run today and it was one of the most delicious things in the world :D Salad for lunch and maybe a little rice.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 05, 2012, 12:59:12 PM
http://www.skinnytaste.com/2012/01/baked-oatmeal-with-blueberries-and.html (http://www.skinnytaste.com/2012/01/baked-oatmeal-with-blueberries-and.html)  I've been eating this for breakfast the last few days, it is really yummy and even the kids like it.

I need to get my run in sometime today but I've got other things to do too.  Parents are coming over later for food....burgers, salad, baked potato bites made as healthy as I can make 'em.  I need to get the fondant & cake made today so it can rest before I decorate it.  I also need to get myself dressed & ready for the day all while being frustrated with this head cold.

I've been slacking on my abs/push-ups routine so I really must get that done too.  Gah.  I need my butt kicked to move.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 05, 2012, 02:52:53 PM
3.5 miles this morning, just no motivation to go longer, but it felt good.  Yogurt for breakfast, salad for lunch, who knows for dinner?  Still making good choices and still losing a little bit each day, so all is well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 05, 2012, 03:34:16 PM
I got on the TM at nap for an extra hour!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 05, 2012, 05:51:10 PM
I got on the TM at nap for an extra hour!

an hour on the treadmill is like an ultra in the woods.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 05, 2012, 06:18:58 PM
I did my run... with Natalie! It was so much fun. I actually ventured into the running forum to post about it.

Woo Hoo!   Good for you and good for Natalie!



In retrospect, the Cauliflower crust pizza was an epic fail.   We both got horrible gas and bloating.  Just too much cauliflower.   We fed the leftovers to the chickens and vowed never again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 05, 2012, 06:40:06 PM
DD asked for fries, so i made some oven baked ones from the potatoes we have. They turned out really good! I cut them like fries, sprayed a baking sheet and cooked them at 400F for 20 minutes, turned them and cooked them for another 15 or so minutes, then seasoned with salt and pepper. They were perfectly crunchy!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 05, 2012, 08:24:18 PM
But the last sentence is kind of sad to me. I guess I just don't want to get to the point where I don't enjoy good food and am satisfied with mediocre "low fat" stuff. I don't mean this to sound snarky or anything. I guess it's just something I think about when I'm trying to change eating habits (cos I really try not to diet since that usually doesn't last once the "diet" is over.)

Not snarky at all! I think it's an important discussion. I read this a while ago but was too busy to construct a thoughtful answer- but I *have* been thinking about it a lot, so I did want to continue the discussion. :)

I think of it less as being satisfied with mediocre food and more as being a combination of a reduced reliance on the high density "good" food and recalibrating my taste/tolerance for the super rich things that, realistically, can only be a rare addition to my diet.

The reality is that, at my height, to maintain a weight of 120lbs- I will need to eat no more than about 1500-1700 calories a day (depending on how active I am). There just isn't a lot of room in 1500-1700/calories a day for butter, full-fat cheese, rich desserts, and so forth.

Before trying the i-diet eating plan- although I don't think I was drowning things in butter and cheese- they did feature prominantly in all of my favorite meals. Also, although I think our vegetable consumption was on the higher end- it's no where near what it is now. Rice, pasta/noodles, or potatoes were a part of every meal.

I think of low-fat cheese as a way to wean off of the need to add cheese to everything. I did the same thing with stevia/sugar. I liked my coffee and tea sweetened (I drink quite a bit of both). After a few days of stevia I stopped sweetening things and it's really been no big deal. Same kind of thing with the LF cheese. Initially it helped out where I wanted a volume of melty cheesy yuminess- a grilled cheese sandwich; an omelete; etc. I still sometimes eat LF cheese (LF string cheese is a snack staple, and I still use it for grilled cheese) but more often I use a tiny bit of parmesan (we're talking teaspoons here). I still measure it- because it's too easy to overdo it.

What I find surprising is that I am *just* as satisfied now (probably more so) with a tsp or two of parmesan than I was before, with heaping spoonfuls. So, it's very easy for me to walk by it most of the time and when I do have it- it feels like the real indulgence it should be. Does that make more sense? DH ordered pot de creme at  a restaurant a while ago. I had one bite. That bite was silky and rich and sooo sweet- very yummy. But I really wasn't interested in more. The intensity satisfied me. I don't need to eat the whole dessert. Indeed I *can't* eat the whole dessert (with any regularity) any more, if I want to stay at a smaller size.

As far as dieting goes... meh- as far as I'm concerned it's an issue of semantics. Whether you call it a diet or not, if you go back to what you were doing before, you'll gain the weight back. If you can find something that gives you the tools to eat few enough calories to maintain the size you want to be, without leaving you feeling bitter and deprived- you've won at least half the battle. I don't think about "cheating" because the food I'm eating leaves me happy and satisfied. The breakfasts, lunches, snacks, and "most of the time" dinners are things that fit right in with my normal style of eating (with a few tweaks) and the extra 300-400 calories a day will leave me room to incorperate my favorite recipes in from time to time. Time will tell, of course, but the diet I'm on has exposed the weaknesses in what I was doing before and given me the tools to be successful in a completely reasonable way.

In turn, I hope that didn't come accross as snarky at all. I think this kind of discourse is fun.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: bootsie on February 05, 2012, 08:35:36 PM
First I can't find a 32D (or 32C) bra anywhere.  I don't think it exists....what a ridiculous size. 

FYI - I know they are $$, but Victoria's Secret has 32D. It's usually the only place I can find them. They aren't available in all the styles, but there are several good choices - at least for me  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 05, 2012, 08:43:09 PM
Had a pretty good day. I was a little off plan- although I think calorie-wise I did ok. Plus, we spent 4hours at the dog beach and at least 3 of that was walking (not very fast, mind you). I knew food was going to be an issue so I had a big breakfast- 2 eggs, a slice of bread, 2tsp of parm and some sauteed broccoli, green onions, spinach and zuchini. I packed a lunch of a pb & j (1 slice of bread, 2tsp each of pb and jam), a mandarin orange and a cheese stick. The water was shut off at the park so we needed to stop in town so Sally could get a drink, and I was still hungry so I had a hardboiled egg with my coffee (I ordered two, asked dd if she wanted one and she said no, so didn't order a third- guess who ended up eating one of my eggs?  :grr:). When I got home I made myself a big arugula salad with 4 chopped hazlenuts, 1tsp of parm, a little olive oil and the juice of half a lemon. Yummy! I think I'm going to have 1/2 cup of (homemade) baked beans and half of a field roast frankfurter for dinner in a little bit.

Here's a picture from when we stopped for lunch.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423814_10150616137364119_674859118_8958044_460939524_n.jpg)

In retrospect, the Cauliflower crust pizza was an epic fail.   

Oh no! I had the same thing happen with onion soup a while ago. Good god, it was so awful! I tried the cauliflower pizza and thought it was pretty tasty. I told the family it was "vegetable pie" though because I knew that the only resembelence to pizza would be the way it looked and calling it piza was sure to dissappoint. Although it was pretty yummy the calories and the fact that I was hungry again in pretty short order mean this one would go in the "special occassion" category and I'm not sure it was good enough to fit there.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on February 05, 2012, 08:49:03 PM
FYI - I know they are $$, but Victoria's Secret has 32D. It's usually the only place I can find them. They aren't available in all the styles, but there are several good choices - at least for me  :)

I've also had good luck with Soma Intimates for difficult-to-find sizes (uh... 34DD anyone?). Even their stores are pretty well-stocked with things on the crazy ends of the sizing spectrum. http://www.soma.com/store/home.jsp (http://www.soma.com/store/home.jsp)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 05, 2012, 08:50:13 PM
First I can't find a 32D (or 32C) bra anywhere.  I don't think it exists....what a ridiculous size. 

I am the same size! I can never tell if the other 32d in town gets there first & cleans 'em out before I get a crack at them or if they just don't make this size. 34 really is too big and,no, a 34 B doesn't fit (why do they love to make this suggestion)? I have found them at target from time to time and moving comfort also makes this size (again, $$$). I think I have a couple of playtex bras in this size also. Not sure where I got them- they are all old! Oh, and Nordstrom too. You do have to seek them out. Sometimes I find them in styles that don't work for me (demi-cup, push-up, front closure & heavily padded styles- I'm looking at you!). I need something that is very full coverage, underwire, and has good headlight control. Oh- and nice wide straps, a nice wide band and back closure. You wouldn't think that would be so much to ask for.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 05, 2012, 11:15:28 PM
I logged all my superbowl snacking and I did reasonably well. I'm fairly pleased with myself.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 06, 2012, 12:21:14 AM
Thanks for the bra searching tips!  I will check out a few of those places.

I managed to get 2 miles in earlier along with my other exercises.

I'm only up this late at night because I baked a cake and have mixed together 7 colors of fondant....something I've never done before.  I may have eaten some extraordinarily fantastic cake batter during the process.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: orzabellle on February 06, 2012, 07:45:14 AM
I am buying beano. I want to make that cauliflower pizza.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: blue sleep on February 06, 2012, 08:58:19 AM
Rough work week last week and crappy eating.

Back to it today, though.  Sitting here with my coffee.  Glad to see everyone is here is still making progress.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 06, 2012, 09:04:22 AM
Up about 2lbs today. Meh. Not worried, I know, by now that it'll be gone by mid week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 06, 2012, 09:07:22 AM
I'm up a pound today, but I'm down 3 from last week so I'm cool with the bump.

Up to 3 sets of 20 pushups/pullups.  Decided to try to get into the shoulderstand position so I can do reverse squats.  I have been trying for 3 days and still can't get into shoulderstand position unsupported.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 06, 2012, 10:08:18 AM
Holding steady. Did pretty well over the weekend, with the exception of lunch on Saturday. Battling allergies and crappy sleep right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 06, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
I made the cauliflower crust pizza and I thought it was pretty decent.  My SO who is total meat/potatoes guy even ate it so that was a nice surprise.  I  think I will cook the crust longer next time though for 25 mins like meri suggested instead of 15 like in the recipe.  I did not put cheese in the crust either. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 06, 2012, 11:35:12 AM
I am buying beano. I want to make that cauliflower pizza.

Ha!  DH and I had no issue with it at all, just depends! 

Up a bit from yesterday but Superbowl indulgence was worth it.  Black bean brownies are really, really good.  Hit the treadmill this morning and had no go, so only did 1.5 miles.  Perhaps I'll try later.  working from home, hoping to stay out of the kitchen.

Edited to add the second half of the post, duh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 06, 2012, 01:10:31 PM
If I ever...EVER...mention making a fondant covered cake (or 3!!) again would someone please slap me!?  It is so frustrating and is taking all day. 
I also made chocolate buttercream frosting - super yummy, but still....  I'm gonna be too sick of the damn thing to enjoy it.

I have been getting a workout from kneading all morning, and last night, so that's got to count for something.  Ideally I'll get a run in, but there is laundry to be done, gifts to wrap, dishes to wash, and probably another several hours of cake work.  I still have the head cold.


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 06, 2012, 01:16:52 PM
Good luck, Bolloxd! Your post is pretty much the reason I buy the cake for Reid's birthday. I'm not a very good baker to begin with - trying to make a nice cake for his birthday would send me over the edge with stress. And I'd eat all the frosting before it ever got on the cake.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 06, 2012, 01:17:28 PM
Ha!  DH and I had no issue with it at all, just depends! 

We didn't have any issue with the cauliflower either. But... we eat a lot of cruciferous veg anyway (including lots of cauliflower) so not a huge surprise.

If I ever...EVER...mention making a fondant covered cake (or 3!!) again would someone please slap me!? 

Ugh. Cake making is not a favorite activity of mine. It's one of those things that people make look easy- but it's not!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 06, 2012, 01:27:04 PM
I had a most excellent run this morning followed by an apple with peanut butter and blackberries for breakfast.
I am really feeling pretty good.

And I signed up for HIIT yesterday.... It starts Feb 14th. :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on February 06, 2012, 01:43:10 PM
Good luck with that cake, bolloxd!! I am definitely not a baker. It's easier just to make cupcakes from a box. :P Though, a couple of years ago, I can make really good lemon shortbread! I made them (in shape of a heart... awwww) for Valentine's day!

I was happily 2lbs down this morning! I love that I've lost more weight AFTER the wlc than during... ah well. Losing is what matters. I didn't watch the superbowl so no snacks there. I did have a beer with my post long run pizza, though. It was oh so yummy, too.

No exercise today after yesterday's run. I am going for a pedicure, though. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 06, 2012, 02:07:05 PM
i love baking. i used to work as a pastry chef (how i got fat in college) and if i bake now, i cannot keep my hands off the frosting!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: blue sleep on February 06, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
I did something different for my run this morning.  Since winter has relegated me to the treadmill, I usually find a movie on TCM or something to watch to keep my mind busy while I run X miles.

Lately though, my mind has been spinning so much that I a) only half watch the movie and b) think about all of the work stuff I have to do right now, leading to c) convincing myself that I am either too tired to go on or that I *need* to get off the treadmill after 20 or 30 minutes because I have to get back to work.

This morning, I simply went to the gym, threw my sweatshirt over the display, and ran until the treadmill automatically shut off (1 hour).  I watched a little TV but mostly either ran in silence or without music.

I don't know why but it felt different.  Probably won't do it this way all the time but...simply knowing that I have an hour set aside--no matter what--for the run made the difference today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 06, 2012, 03:42:46 PM
Is anyone setting new goals? I think I'm going to shoot for 130 by 4/1. That feels very doable and not too much of a stretch, if I continue on my current trajectory. We'll see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 06, 2012, 03:44:44 PM
I can't even imagine weighing 130. That's a wild dream for me.

I'm shooting for consistent morning exercise by March 1.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 06, 2012, 03:48:27 PM
I'm shooting for 130, but there's no way I'll be there by 4/1 short of amputation.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 06, 2012, 03:49:38 PM
I'm shooting for 130, but there's no way I'll be there by 4/1 short of amputation.

Hell, I'm not even shooting for 130 as my final goal, and there's *still* no way I'd get to my number by 4/1 short of amputation.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 06, 2012, 04:00:54 PM
I am shooting for a solid 132 by march 15th. It is totally doable.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 06, 2012, 04:30:45 PM
I would love to be down 10 lbs by end of March, but a girl can dream, right? I have not had a great day, not awful, just snacking too much instead of good meals.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 06, 2012, 04:40:18 PM
I would love to be down 10 lbs by end of March, but a girl can dream, right? I have not had a great day, not awful, just snacking too much instead of good meals.

That's what I'm goin' for. We'll do it together! :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 06, 2012, 04:52:58 PM
It is a plan! And i am starving!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 06, 2012, 05:36:00 PM
You have me on ignore don't you!?

I want in on the "plan" too.  >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 06, 2012, 06:16:38 PM
You have me on ignore don't you!?

I want in on the "plan" too.  >:(
Sure! Not on ignore but i am on phone and curt!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 06, 2012, 06:17:30 PM
Sure! Not on ignore but i am on phone and curt!
me too. I hate typing on my Phone
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 06, 2012, 06:18:29 PM
So is this a new challenge then?  :D  I have a hard time setting goals like this.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 06, 2012, 06:24:54 PM
Me too! Making spaghetti squash for dinner to help balance out my snacking today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 06, 2012, 09:36:01 PM
Pork tenderloin and bell pepper stir-fry for dinner tonight, with yellow rice. Mmmmm. I didn't go back for seconds, even though I wanted to, but that means there's enough for lunch tomorrow or Wednesday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 06, 2012, 09:55:12 PM
You guys only hafta set goals if you wanna set goals!

Do we want to have a weigh in day? I would like to move it to wed or fri.

Carmelized and onion and a couple of shallots. Threw in about 10 garlic cloves. Then a head of broccoli rabbe. Deglazed with a bit of wine and a bit of balsamic. Eating half tonight with two fried eggs and half tomorrow- maybe with tomato sauce and pasta.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: picote on February 06, 2012, 11:32:26 PM
You guys only hafta set goals if you wanna set goals!

Do we want to have a weigh in day? I would like to move it to wed or fri.



I would be game. I finally cracked the 140 mark and am trying for another 5 pounds. It would be nice to have the extra motivator. I'm trying to get started running again, though that's been a bit of mess so far. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on February 06, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
I've got goals; really hoping for 7-10 lbs. by the end of March but not sure if that will happen with BFing. I'm really hoping to add in some consistent exercise but am really struggling with how to make it fit in our family schedule with work.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 06, 2012, 11:42:04 PM
I would be game. I finally cracked the 140 mark and am trying for another 5 pounds. It would be nice to have the extra motivator. I'm trying to get started running again, though that's been a bit of mess so far. 

Congrats! That was the ellusive number for me as well!
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 07, 2012, 08:11:04 AM
Congrats! That was the ellusive number for me as well!

And for me.  I cracked it the second-to-last week.

I may borrow your goal, RA.  It's attainable but still challenging.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 07, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
I think my goal for the end of March will be non-scale related.  I am wearing a horribly unflattering pair of wool pants today.  I'm wearing them because they're warm.  So by the end of March, I want them to be too big and I can feel justified giving them to the Salvation Army and getting a better fitting and more flattering pair in the Fall. 

And I want to keep pursuing the goal of rockin' abs. 

I'm three pounds from a major milestone.  Given my body's response around major milestones, I'll probably hop up and down the same 2 pounds for the next week or so.  Down 1 today, same as Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2012, 09:20:19 AM
I am feeling cranky about those two lbs that showed up. Y'day. They are still here. I'm up about .5 lb from weigh in
 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: crazypants on February 07, 2012, 09:22:38 AM
My tendon is achin so badly  :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 09:30:41 AM
Shuffled this morning. :sleepy: :luvcoffee:

Fruit smoothie and waffles for breakfast. Last night's leftovers for lunch. Dinner should be soup and grilled cheese. Gym tonight, unless my trainer has to cancel.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 07, 2012, 10:20:05 AM
I am very hungry today, and something in the office smells like food. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: joan on February 07, 2012, 10:21:54 AM
i love baking. i used to work as a pastry chef (how i got fat in college) and if i bake now, i cannot keep my hands off the frosting!

I mean this in a complimentary, not snarky way, but based on what you write here, I have a hard time imagining you eating garbage.  You'd probably shudder at the stuff I eat (though I'm trying to eat healthier...I do eat a lot of nutritious stuff, but a LOT of bad, too).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: omega lambda on February 07, 2012, 11:09:05 AM
I'm down 1 pound and inching closer to my goal - one pound to go!

However; Mini said something about a milestone and now I'm wondering if it should be a milestone instead of a goal.  I'm switching over to milestone for now as I think I like the mental imagery better.  A goal is sort of like an end, and an end means you're kind of done and I don't think I can ever be done.  A milestone means I can get there, move on and come back, back track a little and head back toward the milestone, or maybe even move on to the next milestone.  Right now my super-long term goal/milestone is to reach a certain weight (and I'm not sure what this is yet, so milestone works better than goal), maintain it (a huge milestone in itself) and really change my eating habits.  The last one has been the most elusive and I'm certain it has a lot to do with mindset.  I love food, I love cooking, and have made a hobby out of cooking/baking all sorts of new and great things.  Not all of those things belong on the healthful eating list, so that milestone would be to balance the healthful eating with the occasional decadent who-cares eating.  I've tried the constant decadent who-cares eating with exercise and it didn't balance!  :-[

RA and Lanarkshire talked about this earlier, but I too have noticed how rich foods are now.  I think with too much decadent eating, I lost sight of how rich some foods really are.  After really limiting the types of food I was eating, even yogurt started tasting sweet and rich.  I think this is a better place to be in order to maintain a healthful eating lifestyle.  I don't want to give up the decadent food altogether (I could never!  :D ), but a lot less of it (both in frequency and because now it's VERY rich) will be very good things for me.

Also, after all of that, I like the check-in, but I suspect a perpetual one will lose its effectiveness.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 11:23:58 AM
Help!!!!

I'm going out to dinner tomorrow night for a friend's birthday. This is the dinner menu: http://www.cipollina-austin.com/storage/DinnerMenurevised1-11-12.pdf (http://www.cipollina-austin.com/storage/DinnerMenurevised1-11-12.pdf)

What should I get? I don't eat seafood. No way, no how, no exceptions. I will likely get a glass or two of wine, and I'm guessing there will also be some kind of dessert. If it's shared, I can just eat a small sliver of something, but I need to assume that I'll be drinking wine and eating dessert, so dinner itself needs to be on the lighter side of things.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2012, 11:25:14 AM
I would be up for another defined challenge if someone wants to run it. I will help start the daily threads.  :D

I'm working on milestones also, rather than goals. I don't *know* ultimately where I'll decide the my right weight is. We'll see. My first milestone was getting under 140. My next milestone will be 135. The next one after that is 125. Then, not sure. I will either try and stay there or just see where my weight ends up on its own. I have long struggled to get under 140- so I'm guessing it might be a battle to get to 135. It's been a very long time since I've been there though- so hard to know.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 07, 2012, 11:32:40 AM
I had a fasting blood draw this morning so no breakfast or workout. I will have to try and motivate to go to step class after work.
My whole morning routine is shot!!!
 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 07, 2012, 11:47:08 AM
I am feeling cranky about those two lbs that showed up. Y'day. They are still here. I'm up about .5 lb from weigh in
i have been up 2lbs for 2 days  >:(

I mean this in a complimentary, not snarky way, but based on what you write here, I have a hard time imagining you eating garbage.  You'd probably shudder at the stuff I eat (though I'm trying to eat healthier...I do eat a lot of nutritious stuff, but a LOT of bad, too).

well, i did not eat garbage, i ate the highest quality of fine pastries :D :D :D

ok, just ate my apple and am going to hit the TM before work. We went to a mom's meeting this morning and they had mini oatmeal cookies from TJs and i did eat 2. They were not even that good, wtf? i am sure it was negligible in calories, but seriously, why can't i just keep my hands off?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 07, 2012, 11:54:56 AM
Help!!!!

I'm going out to dinner tomorrow night for a friend's birthday. This is the dinner menu: http://www.cipollina-austin.com/storage/DinnerMenurevised1-11-12.pdf (http://www.cipollina-austin.com/storage/DinnerMenurevised1-11-12.pdf)

What should I get? I don't eat seafood. No way, no how, no exceptions. I will likely get a glass or two of wine, and I'm guessing there will also be some kind of dessert. If it's shared, I can just eat a small sliver of something, but I need to assume that I'll be drinking wine and eating dessert, so dinner itself needs to be on the lighter side of things.

I'd go for the octopus, followed by tri-tip and eat every fry, but that's just me.

Healthiest non-seafood choice?  Tomato bisque, followed by the pork chop.  I make the decision mainly on the fact that the salads have nuts and cheese in them (extra calories) so unless the bisque is 50% butter and cream, it should be good.  Likewise with the main courses.  The sides offered with the pork chop are the least starchy/cheesy.

Dessert?  Avoid cheesecake and select apple pie but if it's a birthday outing there will likely be cake.  Eat and enjoy!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: omega lambda on February 07, 2012, 12:10:33 PM
I'd go for the octopus, followed by tri-tip and eat every fry, but that's just me.

Healthiest non-seafood choice?  Tomato bisque, followed by the pork chop.  I make the decision mainly on the fact that the salads have nuts and cheese in them (extra calories) so unless the bisque is 50% butter and cream, it should be good.  Likewise with the main courses.  The sides offered with the pork chop are the least starchy/cheesy.

Dessert?  Avoid cheesecake and select apple pie but if it's a birthday outing there will likely be cake.  Eat and enjoy!


I have also found that replacing potatoes or rice with steamed veggies is an option most restaurants will allow.  So the wagyu tri-tip with substituted veggies for the fries and that's not a bad meal either.

eta:  if it were me though, I'd skip the salad or soup if I was planning on the wine and dessert.  But really if it were me, I'd skip the wine.  I don't like it enough to drink those calories.  I'd rather have a salad or more dessert!  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 12:12:24 PM
Thanks, Mini! I don't know that anyone is bringing cake, so dessert will likely just be off the dessert menu. There is no apple pie listed, but there is a lemon tart - I'm thinking that be the better choice? http://www.cipollina-austin.com/storage/menus/Desserts_Web.pdf (http://www.cipollina-austin.com/storage/menus/Desserts_Web.pdf)

I'd probably have said to hell with it and gone with the tri-tip and fries, too, but I'm trying to do better!!!

That's a good idea, y-m - I'll ask about subbing veggies for fries. This is why I'm trying to plan ahead. Otherwise, I'll be trying to decide after a long day at work and a glass of wine, and that's just a recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2012, 12:13:51 PM
Help!!!!

I'm going out to dinner tomorrow night for a friend's birthday. This is the dinner menu: http://www.cipollina-austin.com/storage/DinnerMenurevised1-11-12.pdf (http://www.cipollina-austin.com/storage/DinnerMenurevised1-11-12.pdf)

What should I get? I don't eat seafood. No way, no how, no exceptions. I will likely get a glass or two of wine, and I'm guessing there will also be some kind of dessert. If it's shared, I can just eat a small sliver of something, but I need to assume that I'll be drinking wine and eating dessert, so dinner itself needs to be on the lighter side of things.

Mmmm. That menu looks fantastic! #1- I'd eat before I left. Easier to resist temptation (and the table bread) if you're not hungry. I would take a cue from the rest of the table about apps/salad ordering. You might get saved there. If not- I'd go for the butter lettuce and ask for the feta and olives on the side, if I thought I could eat just a little of each and be satisfied. Or, I'd do the spinach one and not eat all the chevre. If other people aren't ordering salad- I might go for the spinach salad as my entree. (this would past muster with my friends- but I might get harassed about it by family). The pork chop and steak both look like decent options. I would ask for a substitution on the fries. Maybe lentils or sweet potatoes or a salad. Or just skip them. Then I would try and eat about 1/2 of the entree. Do you have a friend that might go splitsies with you? I have a couple of friends that I often do this with. We'll split a salad and then split an entree.

Or... call it a splurge meal, tell yourself it's good for sustainability and stay on plan all day right to the meal and then get right back on plan as soon as it's over. Then, you get to enjoy yourself AND avoid the guilt. (having a plan that I know I can stick to satisfies my guilty conscience (sorry, speller broken) much more than if I set an unreasonable goal and then I blow it)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 12:23:16 PM
Oh, good call on having a snack before so I don't go nuts with the bread, RA - thanks!

I'm leaning towards calling it a splurge, but I'd still like it to be the least-damaging splurge possible, you know? I've never been to this place before - so I'm not sure on the size of the entrees. I'm pretty sure they're not going to be those big honkin' plates you get someplace like Chili's, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 07, 2012, 12:26:16 PM
Lemon tarts are often deceptively calo-riffic because they add tons of sugar to counterbalance the tart lemon.  I'd probably go with the creme brulee, but I am intrigued by the goatcheesecake.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 07, 2012, 12:28:45 PM
I think all the desserts are probably pretty equal honestly and you should just count it as a splurge if you are going to eat one :) 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 12:32:46 PM
I'm torn. I love me some lemon tart, but chocolate mousse is my other not-so-secret love. Hmmmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 07, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
I was going to suggest the mousse  :D  The food looks great. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 12:42:12 PM
I'm really looking forward to it. At the same time, I'd like to make decent choices. Makes it easier to enjoy the wine and the dessert if I'm not hating myself for the entree.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
Goatcheese cake is amazing! What I would probably do is ask if anyone wanted to split a dessert with me. Then I would only eat a few bites of my half. I am very practiced at eating only a few bites of restaurant dessert.

Even if the portions aren't huge... they are probably still significantly more than you want. Even if the portion size it self isn't twice as big- you have to think there is way more fat and such than you'd use at home.

Here's how I've handled restaurant eating since I really got serious in December:
I don't order wine. I drink water. It's not worth it to me (even though I do like it). DH has gotten used to me "tasting" his wine. He's a good sport about it. =P
I don't order desert. If I'm in a social situation where ordering dessert is expected- I order it and then I only eat a bite or two. Then I take it home for DD and DH to eat.
I try and avoid the app/salad thing. Especially if I feel like dessert is inevitable.
I order an appetizer for my entree and don't let them make me an "entree size" portion. Then I only eat 1/2- 2/3 of it. Or I'll have a salad for my dinner. Usually the toppings on the salad rival what my entree at home would be anyway.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 12:59:21 PM
Those are all excellent tips, RA - thanks! We don't go out to nicer restaurants very often, so I'm not very good at this. Especially not the part about only eating a few bites of dessert.  :sidesplit: :sidesplit:

Yeah, no. I'm not good at that. (Doesn't mean I don't need to *get* good at it, just that I'm not.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2012, 01:13:26 PM
But, there is also room in life for celebrations and indulgence! I firmly believe that! So I choose my indulgent meals very carefully. This friends birthday might be worth it for you...and that is totally ok.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 07, 2012, 01:14:09 PM
But, there is also room in life for celebrations and indulgence! I firmly believe that! So I choose my indulgent meals very carefully. This friends birthday might be worth it for you...and that is totally ok.

Yes! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Natasha on February 07, 2012, 01:22:06 PM
Help!!!!

I'm going out to dinner tomorrow night for a friend's birthday. This is the dinner menu: http://www.cipollina-austin.com/storage/DinnerMenurevised1-11-12.pdf (http://www.cipollina-austin.com/storage/DinnerMenurevised1-11-12.pdf)

What should I get? I don't eat seafood. No way, no how, no exceptions. I will likely get a glass or two of wine, and I'm guessing there will also be some kind of dessert. If it's shared, I can just eat a small sliver of something, but I need to assume that I'll be drinking wine and eating dessert, so dinner itself needs to be on the lighter side of things.

Yum! How can you go wrong, it all looks good!

I guess you could do a salad or a small plate, but that looks splurge-worthy to me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 01:24:14 PM
But, there is also room in life for celebrations and indulgence! I firmly believe that! So I choose my indulgent meals very carefully. This friends birthday might be worth it for you...and that is totally ok.

I agree! I do, however, need to be very careful with myself, or *everything* turns into a celebration or indulgence, and that does me no good. :) Which is why I asked for thoughts. It all sounds delicious (well, except the seafood, but that's me), so pretty much anything would be an indulgence.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Natasha on February 07, 2012, 01:34:34 PM
I just made myself a green smoothie with banana, strawberries, pineapple, spinach, plain yogurt, and some kind of berry juice. Ugly/yummy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Roach on February 07, 2012, 02:15:31 PM
I had old bay steamed shrimp ( about 1 cup)

rasberries, blackberries, blueberries (about 1 cup)

4 oz Activia low fat yogurt.

and I'm weaning out starches......

I've also started daily's of Krill Oil, Fish Oil, and baby aspirin.

that and working out seem to have dropped me about 3 lbs......
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 02:34:51 PM
I like RA's suggestion about splitting a full-size entre with someone else.  I do this a lot, but you have to be with people who don't mind the idea of sharing food.  It's a great way to counter the tendency of some restaurants to super-size everything.  As for the lemon tart, that will cost you around 300 calories.  That's approximately three glasses of wine!  Priorities :)

 :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

So maybe I'll skip dessert.... ;) The only person going whom I know well is the birthday girl, and I'm not going to ask her to split a plate with me at her celebration! If the entrees are huge, I'll ask for a doggie bag, even though they charge for them.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 07, 2012, 02:38:31 PM
:panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

So maybe I'll skip dessert.... ;) The only person going whom I know well is the birthday girl, and I'm not going to ask her to split a plate with me at her celebration! If the entrees are huge, I'll ask for a doggie bag, even though they charge for them.  :eyeroll:

You can always order coffee instead of dessert so you have something to do and are not just sitting there while people eat. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 02:43:49 PM
I probably will. I love coffee.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: omega lambda on February 07, 2012, 03:08:23 PM
I like RA's suggestion about splitting a full-size entre with someone else.  I do this a lot, but you have to be with people who don't mind the idea of sharing food.  It's a great way to counter the tendency of some restaurants to super-size everything.  As for the lemon tart, that will cost you around 300 calories.  That's approximately three glasses of wine!  Priorities :)

We've been doing this for awhile.  There's a burger joint near our house that has the best burgers and fries.  The portions are huge and I don't even want to know how many calories are in it.  We split it right down the middle.  Except the fries.  I haven't gotten used to Mr. YM's habit of holding the burger in one hand and eating all the fries first.  I'm just the opposite, so unless I carve out my portion and threaten him with bodily harm, I get shortchanged. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 03:21:16 PM
We've been doing this for awhile.  There's a burger joint near our house that has the best burgers and fries.  The portions are huge and I don't even want to know how many calories are in it.  We split it right down the middle.  Except the fries.  I haven't gotten used to Mr. YM's habit of holding the burger in one hand and eating all the fries first.  I'm just the opposite, so unless I carve out my portion and threaten him with bodily harm, I get shortchanged. 

Hah! There's a delicious burger place here (Mighty Fine, all you Austin people), and they are DELICIOUS. I do.not.share my burger or fries from Mighty Fine, except *maybe* a couple of fries with Reid. DH and I would probably end up divorced if we tried to split from there. We don't go often, though. It's something like 3 days of WW Points for a burger and fries.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2012, 04:07:24 PM
need to be very careful with myself, or *everything* turns into a celebration or indulgence, and that does me no good.

This is meeeeee! Now that I'm being very disciplined, I can easily see that I was lying to myself about how many "celebration" meals I was indulging in weekly. Even stuff that wasn't- like just a mid- week meal out with a friend. We'd go for pho and I'd have a beer and we might order an app too. Now I'm limiting myself to ONE celabratory meal a week. I can still go out other times in a week (although I limit it- because even when you're "good" it's just hard) but if it's not my splurge meal, I don't splurge. I go with sparkling water or hot tea. No desert. I'm not entitled to a big fatty entree and a bigg fatty starter. So, I go out to thai with my friends and I have plain stirfried veggies with plain tofu and I don't eat the whole plate. No, it's not what I *wanted* but I already made up my mind that wasn't going to be the spluge meal that week. I'm not perfect, of course, but forcing myself to really think about the meal in terms of "splurge? or not a splurge" before even walking through the door, puts it in perspective for me. Maybe the splurge is a slice of pizza on saturday night over a board game with my family instead. Fine... as long as it's mindful. It's very easy for me to talk myself into what I "deserve" or how much "a little won't hurt".

So, yeah, there is room for indulgence and indulgence is necessary. But there was a LOT of room in my diet to do a whole lot less indulging, when I'm being comlpetely honest with myself.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Roach on February 07, 2012, 04:31:57 PM
can I count eating a Cutie (one of those small oranges in case you were being perverted) as an indulgence?

it is pretty tasty.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 07, 2012, 04:35:12 PM
can I count eating a Cutie (one of those small oranges in case you were being perverted) as an indulgence?

it is pretty tasty.

35 calories of indulgence!   And they're clementines.  I was absurdly proud of peeling one in one piece today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Roach on February 07, 2012, 04:44:58 PM
35 calories of indulgence!   And they're clementines.  I was absurdly proud of peeling one in one piece today.

yes....clementines and I have a box of them....they are my winter treat.

one piece peel is teh awesome.   I bow down to your manual dexterity.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Natasha on February 07, 2012, 07:03:27 PM
Just went by HEB to weigh myself and I'm still losing! <happy dance>
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on February 07, 2012, 07:05:27 PM
Two of my friends at the gym tonight told me I looked like I'd lost weight.    :heartbeat: :heartbeat:   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2012, 07:07:08 PM
Two of my friends at the gym tonight told me I looked like I'd lost weight.    :heartbeat: :heartbeat:   

 :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 07, 2012, 07:59:09 PM
awesome Caito!

I just broiled a grapefruit. It is too hot to eat, but looks tasty! i sprinkled just a teeny bit of brown sugar on it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 07, 2012, 09:26:06 PM
This is meeeeee! Now that I'm being very disciplined, I can easily see that I was lying to myself about how many "celebration" meals I was indulging in weekly. Even stuff that wasn't- like just a mid- week meal out with a friend. We'd go for pho and I'd have a beer and we might order an app too. Now I'm limiting myself to ONE celabratory meal a week. I can still go out other times in a week (although I limit it- because even when you're "good" it's just hard) but if it's not my splurge meal, I don't splurge. I go with sparkling water or hot tea. No desert. I'm not entitled to a big fatty entree and a bigg fatty starter. So, I go out to thai with my friends and I have plain stirfried veggies with plain tofu and I don't eat the whole plate. No, it's not what I *wanted* but I already made up my mind that wasn't going to be the spluge meal that week. I'm not perfect, of course, but forcing myself to really think about the meal in terms of "splurge? or not a splurge" before even walking through the door, puts it in perspective for me. Maybe the splurge is a slice of pizza on saturday night over a board game with my family instead. Fine... as long as it's mindful. It's very easy for me to talk myself into what I "deserve" or how much "a little won't hurt".

So, yeah, there is room for indulgence and indulgence is necessary. But there was a LOT of room in my diet to do a whole lot less indulging, when I'm being comlpetely honest with myself.

Yesssssss!!! That, exactly. Tomorrow night will be my splurge. It appears that I'm going to be staying home with Reid during the day - he was running a fever this afternoon - so I will most definitely want a splurge. If DH and I go to the movies on Saturday night, I'll suck it up and get a damn salad.

I may be going to a pho place for lunch this week - any recommendations?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 07, 2012, 09:46:40 PM
Cake and doritos for dinner.  My head cold is getting worse and the kids have been coughing today.... BUT we've still been very happy considering.  We spent 1.5 hours bouncing at the bouncy castle place this morning and the rest of the afternoon/evening opening gifts and playing with toys.  The cakes turned out great, very rich & sweet, but tasty and pretty.

Looking forward to getting back to running tomorrow.  I'm also expecting a new niece to arrive in the next day or so!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 07, 2012, 10:11:52 PM
Food tasting for our reception.  I consumed about 6854368 calories, but it was worth it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on February 07, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
I wish eating out was my problem. I hardly ever eat out! Tonight was the first time since Stuart left, I think. We went to 5 Seasons- a brewery restaurant place. They have lots of unusual food there, too. (I ate there with Gebuh when she came to town last year.) I had ONE beer, split the spelt bread with my friend and then had a veggie bean burger (no mayo) and subbed the fries for grit cakes. They were also fried, but man were they yummy! So different and definitely a treat since I only go to this place a couple of times a year. I ended up eating the burger without the bun, so I felt there was a little victory there. I could have JUST eaten grit cakes, though. But that wouldn't have been good for my quest to up protein. No exercise even though I told debbatx I would get up and run. TOM just isn't cooperating with my energy. I've been overly tired which explains my craptastic runs over the weekend.

Tomorrow I'm off work to go look at reception places, so the plan is to drop my car off for an oil change in the afternoon after the last appt. I plan to do my run while it's getting done. :)

Oh, and I finally broke down and ordered the Jillian program! It's on its way here. I will report back once I've tried it! *squee* So excited!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2012, 10:35:52 PM
I may be going to a pho place for lunch this week - any recommendations?

It kind of depends on what you're trying to do. Most Pho is pretty diet friendly- the beef is usually lean and the chicken skinless breast. It's a broth based soup, full of veggies and strong-tasting herbs. The thing that might get you in trouble is the noodles. White rice noodles  MUST have a pretty high GI rating, I would guess. Since every bowl is made to order, though, it's pretty easy to leave the noodles out. If you aren't worried about carbs- leave them in. You could ask for extra veggies or meat (or both)- although here they charge you for it. What I do normally is drink the broth- then eat tofu & veggies and only eat the noodles till I'm full. I usually leave at least 2/3 of the noodles behind.

If you're going to a more general vietnamese restaurant- they will have other stir-fry type items on the menu and you can just get those without the accompany starch. Of course- the stirfry is cooked in oil. But, a decent choice anyway.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2012, 10:43:07 PM
I <heart> pho.

There are NO pho places out here in metro west bumbledeefuck where I live. I used to get it all the time when I lived in the city. :(

Shoot! I should have taken you to pho when you were in Seattle!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on February 07, 2012, 11:06:39 PM

Oh, and I finally broke down and ordered the Jillian program! It's on its way here. I will report back once I've tried it! *squee* So excited!

:w00t: I'm so ready to see your review! Of course, I would still have to find the actual motivation to do it :-[ And for some reason I'm really stinking hungry tonight; and I don't really like any of my "good" options available so I will probably just go to bed so I don't dive face first into the girl scout cookies!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 07, 2012, 11:11:32 PM
Shoot! I should have taken you to pho when you were in Seattle!

 :fiery:

The place we went was good, though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: leggova on February 07, 2012, 11:32:35 PM
Since every bowl is made to order, though, it's pretty easy to leave the noodles out.

 :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2012, 11:47:15 PM
:yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

I know. But sometimes you have to make some sacrifices right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: blue sleep on February 07, 2012, 11:53:24 PM
I was at work at 7:30 am and got home at 9 pm. In meetings or class all frigging day.  Scarfed down a burrito for dinner (big but made with wild rice and grilled chicken).  Am now drinking a beer and  vegetating. Looking forward to a nice run tomorrow morning. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 08, 2012, 08:35:25 AM
Thanks for the tips, RA! I'll have to see if this place has a menu posted and go from there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 08, 2012, 08:50:47 AM
Up a pound and a half from yesterday, no fair.  :(  My body knows I'm approaching a major milestone and is fucking with me. 

Went through my bins of "too small" spring and summer clothes and discovered most fit or were close to fitting.  WIN!   

One of the best discoveries was two pair of pants that are not at all too small, but are actually too big. 

Then made the wrenching decision to  toss the scores of 10+-year old race t-shirts.  Only kept two with sentimental attachments.  I still have plenty of other junky t-shirts to wear when doing grungy jobs around the house.   

So my evening netted two bins of wearable summer clothes, two garbage bags full of donations, and one trash bag full of clothes that cannot be donated (bathing suits, underwear). 

 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 08, 2012, 08:52:38 AM
good job with the clothes, Mini. I am not even going to look at my too small clothes any time soon!!!

I did not weigh today.

I made DD the best breakfast (ok it is really not a breakfast, but she has not been eating breakfast much lately, refusing most things i give her or only picking at them) http://www.forgivingmartha.com/2011/06/avocado-chocolate-pudding.html (http://www.forgivingmartha.com/2011/06/avocado-chocolate-pudding.html) it was delicious! not really calorie friendly, but i had a taste, yum!

I did 1/2 oat bran and 1/2 old fashioned oats this morning, hoping to fill me up a little longer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on February 08, 2012, 08:54:08 AM
So my evening netted two bins of wearable summer clothes, two garbage bags full of donations, and one trash bag full of clothes that cannot be donated (bathing suits, underwear). 

 

I'm so proud!  :rah:
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Post by: debbatx on February 08, 2012, 08:55:30 AM
Oooooh, I need to go through my closet, too. Not today, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 08, 2012, 09:03:53 AM
I need to go through my clothes drawers again. Mini, you have inspired me to do that this weekend.

I did not make it to step last night, but I don't feel bad.  I haven't had a day off exercise wise in over a week, and I stayed close to my minimum calorie allowance for the day.
I woke up and I my weight was down a pound....so Wooot!
I am going to run in a bit...as soon as I am done with my coffee. I dd wake up hungry this morning so I think I will have scrambled egg whites, spinach and cheese with my fav salsa for breakfast.
Lunch is turkey meat taco salad with red and green lettuce, tomato, and salsa.
snacks will be apple w peanut butter, cottage cheese w salsa and berries.

Lancashire...I think you food choices were really balanced. You ate what you wanted but eliminated the things you really didn't need. Please review the Jillian thing for us when you have used it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 08, 2012, 11:20:46 AM
No loss for a week, four pounds overnight.

On top of bloating, my period makes me get "backed up" (as Oprah says).  So it may actually stick, we'll see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 08, 2012, 11:25:01 AM
OMG, I'm home today with Reid - he has a cold and was running a fever yesterday - and he's making me insane. I *so badly* want to get fast food for lunch. Right now he's throwing a fit because I wouldn't let him run out the front door.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 08, 2012, 11:31:06 AM
Hold fast Debba! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 08, 2012, 11:32:47 AM
I am! Right now my inherent laziness is what's saving me - going for fast food would involve, well, *going* somewhere, and it's a PITA to get dressed, get Reid loaded in the car, go somewhere, and bring it all back home.

But good lord, french fries sound good right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 08, 2012, 12:16:44 PM
So, DD asked me if I am on a diet last night. I didn't really know how to answer her. I've been pretty careful, throughout her life to avoid "the d word" and avoid saying that I think I'm fat, I want to lose weight, and those kinds of things in front of her. We DO talk a lot about healthy foods and what kinds of things we should eat more and less of.

So, yesterday she asked what I was reading. I told her it was a book about nutrition. She said "then why is it called a diet", are you trying to lose weight?

I told her there were different kinds of "diets" out there. There are crazy fad diets that are dangerous and don't work (she said- you mean like the ones where you eat only protein or only soup or only grapefruits?) and there are eating plans that help you see where you can make improvements to what you're eating so you can be healthier. I don't know if I'd really call it a diet... but I'm trying to focus on eating healthier.

Luckily, that seemed to satisfy her. I don't particularly want to get into the "trying to lose weight" discussion with her.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 08, 2012, 02:52:57 PM
My cold is worse today.  No appetite or energy.  DH let me sleep in this morning and I still took a nap this afternoon.  My head may explode from congestion pressure.  I'm also feeling anxious about not running.

The scale was down again this morning.  I actually do NOT want to get to 110 but if I'm exercising and eating when I'm hungry then maybe it is something else going on with my body?

Salad and chicken and other leftovers for dinner tonight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 08, 2012, 03:35:22 PM
Officers had training day today and bbq'd cheese burgers. I almost opted in but then I entered the foods on my fitness pal. I ended up eating my leftover ground turkey taco meat and broccoli. I ended up saving 300 calories!! That did not include mayo or sides.   I think my food was better tasting and more nutritious.

Dodged that bullet!  If it was cake I am not so sure I would have bothered resisting!!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 08, 2012, 05:44:38 PM
Yeah, had a PB&J, a tiny bit of leftover raisin bran, and two pretzels for lunch. The good news? I have plenty of points for the birthday dinner I'm going to tonight. The bad news? I'm effing starving right now and I need to start getting dressed, so I won't have time for a snack before I go. I'll avoid the bread, though.
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Post by: debbatx on February 08, 2012, 05:57:42 PM
And wine!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 08, 2012, 06:00:04 PM
Lemon tart, here you come :)

You mean the mousse?  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 08, 2012, 06:06:03 PM
Enjoy your dinner! Doing ok except for a few bites of DH's coffee cake. I never told you all that on wednesdays at DDs school there is a huge box or two of free panera stuff!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 08, 2012, 06:12:26 PM
Mousse for the entree and the lemon tart for dessert? :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 08, 2012, 06:14:15 PM
Mousse for the entree and the lemon tart for dessert? :D

I like your style! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 08, 2012, 06:14:53 PM
Mousse for the entree and the lemon tart for dessert? :D
Awesome!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on February 08, 2012, 06:44:59 PM
I am resisting the potato chips that are in the break room.  My yogurt is not really cutting it, though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on February 08, 2012, 07:40:30 PM
Lancashire...I think you food choices were really balanced. You ate what you wanted but eliminated the things you really didn't need. Please review the Jillian thing for us when you have used it. 

Thanks, Mouse! I probably could have passed on the last bit of the spelt bread, but I couldn't let it waste. It's soooooooo good! I didn't have any other bread yesterday, so I guess it was a wash? (I try to only have bread once/day if I have it. Pasta or rice is once/week.)

And I look forward to testing the JM videos! I *think* I may even be able to do it in my room if I move a few things around and rotate the tv! That way I won't have to have an audience when I work out.

RA- I think your response was great! "Diet" is such a loaded word. It's even used to describe the "vegetarian diet" which isn't a lose weight diet, just describing what people eat on a regular basis. It isn't easy as a parent, is it?

Congrats Mini on the clothes!! I look forward to some of that soon, I hope.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 09, 2012, 08:43:38 AM
Bounce, bounce, bounce.  1.5 pounds to where I was Tuesday.  I shudder to think what the scale will say tomorrow.  Focus!  Focus on actions, not results.  That's the ticket.

Yesterday I was really dragging through my workout.  I was surly and sassed back at the wii, annoyed with it for making me work.  I flipped it the finger more than once.  By the end I felt like I was going to drop.  I even thought I was coming down with something I was so tired and run-down. 

Before even preparing my dinner, I grabbed a few forkfuls of leftover pork.  I felt better almost immediately. 

I didn't feel hungry.  I just felt run down.  I think part of the reason I gained the weight is that I don't have normal hunger/full cues.  So I have to pay attention to what my body's telling me. 

Tonight I'm going to have a bit of the pork as soon as I get home and see if it improves my workout.

This morning I was so entranced by my shadow, I took a picture:

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/MiniDriver066/2012-02-09_08-23-50_352.jpg)

Have a great day everyone!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 09, 2012, 08:55:02 AM
Good morning Mini!

I like the shadow pic.  Focusing on your actions rather than the results is a great way of thinking. I "weigh" my options all day and try to remember what my long term wishes are and that helps me keep a handle on my actions. Like my therapist told me ... "if you really wanted to lose the weight you would do it". (the conversation was a little more entailed but that is the gist) I remind myself of that regularly. What is I it *want*? Do I want to eat a burger (that is not organic or even good quality meat) just because it is there or do I want to feel good, and eat food that make my body feel good? 

My arms are sore from yesterdays workout. I did Jillian 30dsl3 (no pushups b/c of my shoulder).  I am going to run this am.   HIT starts next Tues...that should be interesting. I hope I am not a total slacker, while everyone else is strong and fit. I don't want to make an as* of myself, or hurt myself. I think I can manage a decent show, but eek! :panic: now I am a little worried!

Deb, how'd dinner go last night?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 09, 2012, 09:02:33 AM
no weigh in for me today. eating my oatbran oatmeal right now. really bland and not so tasty, trying to lay off the PB2 to save about 75 calories/day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 09, 2012, 09:06:11 AM
I'm down three pounds since I started using the LoseIt app, which is pretty sweet. I've also been working out more, so it's probably a combined effect.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 09, 2012, 09:08:07 AM
I'm down three pounds since I started using the LoseIt app, which is pretty sweet. I've also been working out more, so it's probably a combined effect.

Woo hoo!


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 09, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
i use the LoseIt! app periodically. I can pretty much add up my food in my head, esp since i eat the same thing every day for the most part :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 09, 2012, 09:40:44 AM
Stupid hormones. Steadily gained 3lbs this week. Moving back in the right direction. Down 2. Would like to see another three lbs go though as have been good all week- no reason to think I didn't lose my typical 1.5 -2 lbs under all that puffiness. Since my 8 week program ends we and im still a few lbs from my 15 lb goal..
Would rather the week before the end not be a total bust.

Tried on some 4s, which didn't fit, just to remind my self im not there yet.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 09, 2012, 09:55:29 AM
Thanks for asking, Mouse! It went pretty well. I had a salad, which was surprisingly light on the cheese, and went with the tri-tip and fries. The steak was good and the fries were delicious. There were 7 of us, so we got one of each dessert and I had a few small bites of each one.

And wine. Mmmmmmwine.

So it was definitely my splurge for the week, but I didn't feel like I'd completely blown my efforts when I left, either.

Now I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that my feeling cruddy this morning is from allergies, and not because Reid decided to practice his sharing by giving me his cold. I'm very definitely not hungover.

Pho today for lunch with DH.
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 09, 2012, 09:58:12 AM
Sounds delicious and totally worth it, debba.  I wish I had pho for lunch. 
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Post by: debbatx on February 09, 2012, 10:00:29 AM
It was awesome. And the desserts were tiny, so I couldn't gorge or there wouldn't be enough for anyone else. The chocolate mousse had a hint of ginger and came with tiny little gingersnaps. Mmmmm.

And I've never had pho, but it sounds really good. I'm hoping the chicken soup aspect of it will help with my allergies. I'm in denial that it might be a cold.
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Post by: Roach on February 09, 2012, 10:10:24 AM
I only weigh myself once a week.

Nice shadow pic Mini.

I had 1/2 a boiled egg this am and a Van's gluten free waffle with almond butter.....

I have a low fat yogurt that I got for free off the shared food table at work......more importantly, I did not grab the brownies that were there the other day.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 09, 2012, 11:42:19 AM
Debba- glad you enjoyed yourself and walked away feeling good about it! That has been the biggest revelation for me- to be able to stay "on plan" right up to the moment of the meal- eat the meal, enjoy the meal, and then get right back on plan at the next opportunity to eat. It sounds so simple- but I have sabbotaged myself SO many times over that little itty bitty idea.

Good job Roach! I am amazed that yogurt ends up on the shared eating table. How long had it been there?  :P

I hate the shared food table. It currently lives out side my cube. It's mostly empty these days (after what seemed like months of holiday crap) but is currently occupied by bagels. I used to have zero control when it came to the "sugar cube" (as we call it) but these days I have no problem ignoring all the goodies.

I can't remember the last time I grabbed a snack out of the sugar cube, or dug into the candy jar, etc. I totally used to be the person who always had my hand in the candy jar. No longer! Although, as I was leaving PT last night I did reach for some candy bars without even thinking about it. I grabbed two. I thougth one of them was a snickers... it turned out to be a milky way. After I thought about it for about 30 seconds I relized I didn't really need the candy and I threw them away (sorry OAW!).

Could I be cured of my sweet tooth?
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Post by: debbatx on February 09, 2012, 11:48:57 AM
RA, I swear you're in my head.
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Post by: merigayle on February 09, 2012, 02:40:04 PM
i did 5 non-girlie pushups today  8) slow and steady, right?
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Post by: Bolloxd on February 09, 2012, 03:14:34 PM
FINALLY, I'm back in my routine.... ran 4 miles, abs & push-ups.  Feeling happier about that even if my cold isn't gone.  I've been doing good with eating today too.  At least so far.  I'll have to get very creative for dinner or go get groceries...and I'm not up to food shopping.

I'm still patiently waiting for news about brother's gf who is currently in labor.  It is taking a long time and she's having complications from her childhood cancer/illnesses.



Meri - nice job!!  I'm still doing girlie-style push ups and haven't converted to normal ones yet.  I should probably just give it a try.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 09, 2012, 03:29:38 PM
Something I've been trying to remind myself is that eating out is almost always a splurge, no matter what I get -- even the "light" options are not as healthy as what I'd eat at home. For example, my guesstimate for lunch was around 500 calories. That's more than it would be if I made it myself.

Yes, absolutely. On the plan I'm following- that could simply be two days worth of extra calories or I could skip my snacks for that day, to make room. But there just really, really, really isn't a whole lot of room even for mini-splurges like that. So, is it worth it? Can I find something reasonable to eat? Can I suggest something other than eating to do. Sometimes I just skip stuff. I've kind of been hermitting for the past couple of months because I do too much social eating!
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Post by: debbatx on February 09, 2012, 03:40:37 PM
It really is amazing how much of our social lives revolve around food.
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Post by: merigayle on February 09, 2012, 04:55:34 PM
i feel like i am losing weight but i get so darn bloated by the end of the day from all the ruffage, that i feel fat!  :sidesplit: :skeered: :incazzato:
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Post by: VP of Tea on February 09, 2012, 05:21:17 PM
Even though I'm no longer really participating (just reading the thread), I just want to share here that I get to do a capsule endoscopy on Monday (ie swallow a camera). That's all good and well, but it means that I have to do clear liquids only ALL DAY SUNDAY AND MONDAY MORNING! Yeah, I know I'm yelling, but I'm hungry just thinking about it.  :incazzato:

They better find something good. And by good I mean 'not another cancer scare please, thank you'.

We have a big wine pairing dinner party at our house on Saturday night. I'm pigging out, oh yes I am.

Ok, I'm done ranting now. Thank you.
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Post by: merigayle on February 09, 2012, 05:27:45 PM
when will you get the camera results?
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Post by: VP of Tea on February 09, 2012, 05:31:31 PM
when will you get the camera results?

I forgot to ask!  :rotfl: Doofus. But I will ask Monday. I think a few days later,  it probably takes a while to get through 50k images...
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Post by: merigayle on February 09, 2012, 05:52:23 PM
hope it is nothing!
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Post by: VP of Tea on February 09, 2012, 05:53:15 PM
hope it is nothing!

Noooo, it has to be something that's easy to fix. If they find nothing, then we don't know if it could happen again without warning!
 ;)
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Post by: debbatx on February 09, 2012, 05:54:00 PM
Hope it's no big deal and that you can just swallow a band-aid and it'll be all better. :)
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Post by: Roach on February 09, 2012, 06:03:24 PM
Debba- glad you enjoyed yourself and walked away feeling good about it! That has been the biggest revelation for me- to be able to stay "on plan" right up to the moment of the meal- eat the meal, enjoy the meal, and then get right back on plan at the next opportunity to eat. It sounds so simple- but I have sabbotaged myself SO many times over that little itty bitty idea.

Good job Roach! I am amazed that yogurt ends up on the shared eating table. How long had it been there?  :P

I hate the shared food table. It currently lives out side my cube. It's mostly empty these days (after what seemed like months of holiday crap) but is currently occupied by bagels. I used to have zero control when it came to the "sugar cube" (as we call it) but these days I have no problem ignoring all the goodies.

I can't remember the last time I grabbed a snack out of the sugar cube, or dug into the candy jar, etc. I totally used to be the person who always had my hand in the candy jar. No longer! Although, as I was leaving PT last night I did reach for some candy bars without even thinking about it. I grabbed two. I thougth one of them was a snickers... it turned out to be a milky way. After I thought about it for about 30 seconds I relized I didn't really need the candy and I threw them away (sorry OAW!).

Could I be cured of my sweet tooth?

usually it is food that was supplied to a meeting so sometimes the breakfast meetings get some healthy stuff......I was really lucky this am.......

I have earned a splurge today and that means I am having a beer tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: merigayle on February 09, 2012, 06:06:12 PM
Noooo, it has to be something that's easy to fix. If they find nothing, then we don't know if it could happen again without warning!
 ;)
true!!!!
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Post by: debbatx on February 09, 2012, 09:32:22 PM
Blargh. Reid decided that a good way to start sharing would be to give me his cold germs. I feel like crap. Grrrrrrrr. I had some good workout momentum going, too! Waaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!

Okay, pity party over. Ima go take some meds and go sleep now.
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 10, 2012, 07:39:58 AM
Down 1 this morning, but got my period so a further complication to reaching my milestone currently 2 pounds away. 

I think I'll stick at 3 reps of 20 pushups/pullups for the next week.  I'm not feeling ready to move up to more reps. 

This weekend I'm going to the travel show with my sister in law, going out for a Valentines Dinner with DH, and probably going to the movies. 

Our dinner out should be simple to keep under control.  DH and I usually share an entree.   We're going to our favorite rib joint, and I can get some collard greens and a rib and he can have the rest.  Stupid period showing up in time for VD. 

Oh, and the meat snack before the workout was a major win!  I felt great.  It was just a few mouthfuls of leftover pork, but it gave me a lot of energy.

Another PS: I saw this show on Food Network called Fat Chef.  It's your basic weight loss transformation show, but I was really irked at the goals the trainers set.  5 pounds a week!  It's really hard to lose 1-2 pounds a week, imagine feeling like a failure becuase you only lost 3!   I fell asleep before it was over, so I don't know how successful the people were.

Feel better soon, debba!
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Post by: merigayle on February 10, 2012, 08:00:34 AM
5lbs a week? that is not recommended or healthy for sustainable weight loss :( life ain't the biggest loser!
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Post by: debbatx on February 10, 2012, 08:24:48 AM
Thanks, Mini! I feel crappy enough that I'm taking today off so I can get some rest without having a toddler running around. The scale is down at the moment, so I'm trying to be content with that, focusing on getting better, and looking ahead to next week and restarting my exercise challenge.

Our Internet is having issues, too. Awesome.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 10, 2012, 08:32:35 AM
Oh, no, debba! I hope that bug's short lived.

As for me... scale was back up again. I'm starting to get a bit pissed off at the injustice of it. I'm staying within calories and on plan.

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Post by: VP of Tea on February 10, 2012, 08:35:09 AM
Feel better Debba! (swallow a band aid? I like that suggestion!). :D
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Post by: merigayle on February 10, 2012, 08:49:51 AM
Oh, no, debba! I hope that bug's short lived.

As for me... scale was back up again. I'm starting to get a bit pissed off at the injustice of it. I'm staying within calories and on plan.
i think it is a girl thing, with hormones and water retention, etc.

I think I am not getting enough water each day. I stop drinking around 2/3pm because i hate waking up to pee at night and even stopping that early, i often wake to pee at night :( i know there is a lot of water in the produce i eat, but sheesh. I am going to try to get more water in the earlier part of the day.

Debba- we have been nonstop sick it feels like since December. I think it is the mild weather, DD just has a cough but DH and I keep getting horrible colds. My throat is sore again, lovely.
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Post by: hally on February 10, 2012, 10:07:31 AM
5lbs a week? that is not recommended or healthy for sustainable weight loss :( life ain't the biggest loser!

Hi chiming in here. I just was upstairs at work at a going away breakfast and a girl was bitching because she can't have anything because she is on the HCG diet. IMHO and I told her that is nothing more then a money maker for her Dr. Anyone is going to lose eating 500 calories a day!! And that does NOT teach you how to control yourself or live your life.

I've been doing WW since mid August and lost 18 pounds which equaled out to a pound a week, but since first of January went up and took all month and till now to get the 3 back off. Still I am thrilled that I am sticking with it anyway, not giving in. THIS is a lifestyle I can live with. You think it's hard to lose now? Wait till you are my age.

Another observation, I think those of us that are active have a harder time losing because our bodies have become more efficient. At least that's what I am telling myself  :D
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Post by: merigayle on February 10, 2012, 01:18:11 PM
Hi chiming in here. I just was upstairs at work at a going away breakfast and a girl was bitching because she can't have anything because she is on the HCG diet. IMHO and I told her that is nothing more then a money maker for her Dr. Anyone is going to lose eating 500 calories a day!! And that does NOT teach you how to control yourself or live your life.

I've been doing WW since mid August and lost 18 pounds which equaled out to a pound a week, but since first of January went up and took all month and till now to get the 3 back off. Still I am thrilled that I am sticking with it anyway, not giving in. THIS is a lifestyle I can live with. You think it's hard to lose now? Wait till you are my age.

Another observation, I think those of us that are active have a harder time losing because our bodies have become more efficient. At least that's what I am telling myself  :D

yep, money maker in deed. 500 cals/day? that has GOT TO wreck your metabolism  :e)

I think also for some women, with exercise, especially with dieting, our bodies go into womanly survival mode and retain weight, you know, in case we need to bear children :D it is evolution and some of us, like myself, have evolved to be really healthy to bear children or something. My butt is proof :D
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Post by: orzabellle on February 10, 2012, 01:23:52 PM
I think I have been having 1200-1600 a day for the past 3 months (and there were likely a few days I went either a bit under or over). I took a pic today and couldn't believe the difference from a fwe months ago!
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Post by: Run Amok on February 10, 2012, 01:43:46 PM
Hi chiming in here. I just was upstairs at work at a going away breakfast and a girl was bitching because she can't have anything because she is on the HCG diet. IMHO and I told her that is nothing more then a money maker for her Dr. Anyone is going to lose eating 500 calories a day!! And that does NOT teach you how to control yourself or live your life.

I've been doing WW since mid August and lost 18 pounds which equaled out to a pound a week, but since first of January went up and took all month and till now to get the 3 back off. Still I am thrilled that I am sticking with it anyway, not giving in. THIS is a lifestyle I can live with. You think it's hard to lose now? Wait till you are my age.

Another observation, I think those of us that are active have a harder time losing because our bodies have become more efficient. At least that's what I am telling myself  :D

Oooh! This is fun! A co'w of mine is doing the same thing. It's awesome. I've been sharing the craziness throughout the wlc. She always has something crazy to say about it. She's being veeewwwy quiet though because she just got back from a cruise and gained almost all of the weight she just lost, back. Oh and dr? Who needs one. She bought drops off the internet! Swears that it's "the easiest diet" ever. You just wake up skinny! (but also bitches about how tempted she is for all the cookies and what not people bring in).

So, she started this madness in september. The first round ended in the beg of october. At the time she told me she lost 15lbs in 3 weeks. (note, that number later inflated to more like 18) We had a couple of business trips, she went on vacation to mexico, she got giardia, and of course christmas and TG as well. She restarted the diet again in January. By then she was down 10lbs from the start. She lost another 12lbs in the next 3 week go-round. Then left on a cruise. After the cruise she is down a total of 15lbs since october. She plans to restart sometime in march. She claims her goal fo reach 3 week go-round is to lose 5-10lbs. So, got that? She's now on month 5 and is down 15lbs- so about 3 lbs a week.

OTOH- I have been following a reasonable 1200 calorie/day diet for the past 7 weeks. I am down somewhere in the 12-13lb range over that time and still losing.

She points out that she has been able to go on vacatio twice and do all the eating she wants and she's STILL down 15lbs and compared to me, who "haven't eaten anything fun in 2 months!".   :eyeroll:
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Post by: orzabellle on February 10, 2012, 01:46:33 PM
Hooray for you, RA. And poo-poo-pi-doo to your co-worker.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 10, 2012, 01:51:07 PM
aaaaand (!) I can't begin to imagine what all this bouncing around has done to her metabolism! She has lost 30lbs and gained back 15- in 5 months. That's insanity!

But, yeah, I think the most important part is that I've changed the way I eat. I will eat some version of what I'm eating now for.ever. Sure, when I'm not actively losing there is a *little* (very little) more room for more indulgence, but not all that much. She's losing weight- but it's not staying off. Going on a starvation diet for 3 weeks a quarter just can't possibly be healthy!
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Post by: orzabellle on February 10, 2012, 01:55:30 PM
I am so with you, RA. I understand - fully - the power of too much food, even when it is too much gradually.
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Post by: VP of Tea on February 10, 2012, 01:58:11 PM
I think I have been having 1200-1600 a day for the past 3 months (and there were likely a few days I went either a bit under or over). I took a pic today and couldn't believe the difference from a fwe months ago!

Hallo, we need a before and after pic in this here thread!
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Post by: orzabellle on February 10, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Hallo, we need a before and after pic in this here thread!

I didn't take a true before pic because I didn't have a camera I could afford to break (but today's 'after' pic is in the other thread until I delete it)
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Post by: merigayle on February 10, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
workout motivation? i watch hulu on the TM and there have been a lot of Beckham commercials  :heartbeat: :preen: :heartbeat:
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 10, 2012, 02:49:30 PM
I think I have been having 1200-1600 a day for the past 3 months (and there were likely a few days I went either a bit under or over). I took a pic today and couldn't believe the difference from a fwe months ago!
this is the same for me. I am doing really well because it is sustainable.

My morning report..... Got up and did Jillian 30dlevel2 and Anintervals on my treadmill during pushups.
Breakfast was scrambled egg whites with spinach cheddar and salsa. ( my favorite)
Lunch is grilled chicken breast on lettuce w avocado black beans and salsa.

...now I will finish reading all the updates. !
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Post by: Run Amok on February 10, 2012, 03:05:51 PM
I haven't done a progress pic in a while either. I might take this down.

This was actually about a month in. I didn't take a true before pic
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404583_10150574783034119_674859118_8842782_2032064954_n.jpg)

(yes, that's my office bathroom- I don't own a full length mirror!)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/395279_10150629415704119_674859118_8994425_1362528054_n.jpg)

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Post by: MiniDriver on February 10, 2012, 03:16:28 PM
Wow, looking very good RA!
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Post by: merigayle on February 10, 2012, 03:27:54 PM
awesome job RA!
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Post by: onawhim on February 10, 2012, 03:31:58 PM
 :bow:
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Post by: VP of Tea on February 10, 2012, 03:37:19 PM
Nice job! I like your new hair style too!!
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 10, 2012, 03:39:13 PM
Nice job RA!
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Post by: Courtney on February 10, 2012, 03:40:35 PM
Nice job! I like your new hair style too!!

1!!

I'm struggling with binge eating again. *sigh* 

In the good news area, I've been consistent on my working out for at least a week now :)  Small victory!
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Post by: orzabellle on February 10, 2012, 03:44:47 PM
Wow!
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Post by: Run Amok on February 10, 2012, 03:53:48 PM
Thanks everyone!

This weekend is going to be one, long, slow-mo, trainwreck. Dinner with a friend tonight. Lunch with a friend (then the museum!) tomorrow. I promised to help dd make cookies or cupcakes or something for her class this weekend. Sunday is a board meeting- so always lots of snacks and I'm sure we'll order pizza in. I could pack a lunch but I always feel so weird about hanging a flashing neon "diet" sign over my head. You know?


Nice job! I like your new hair style too!!

Thanks!!

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Post by: Run Amok on February 10, 2012, 03:54:46 PM
I'm struggling with binge eating again. *sigh* 

I've got nuthin but a  :hug: for that. Is there other stressy stuff going on in your life driving that?
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Post by: Courtney on February 10, 2012, 04:54:13 PM
I've got nuthin but a  :hug: for that. Is there other stressy stuff going on in your life driving that?

In the last few days, it has primarily been a result of boredom combined with physical hunger (I went to the grocery store hungry, big mistake, and I know better).  The boredom is coming from having more time on my hands than I'm used to since I switched jobs (today is day 8 at the new place), which is certainly a good thing.  It's just a matter of me adjusting to it and making better use of the time, even if that is reading a book or something equally as fun.   When I get home from work, it's about an hour (at least) until the DH gets home, and I'm just not used to that much time by myself, without purpose.  So I need to make sure I don't get home in a state of hunger, or if I do, I need to have on hand something healthy, not a bag of frosted animal cookies (which I bought at the store when I was starving!).  I also need to get into more of a routine when I get home.  Read, start dinner, sew, workout, whatever is appropriate that day.  Practice, practice.  :)  I crave the time to myself, so it's just a matter of finding my rhythm. 
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Post by: Run Amok on February 10, 2012, 05:52:59 PM
Ok, help me pick m' poison! (remember, I'm a vegetarian)

Restaurant A: http://www.theflatirongrill.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/PDF-Dinner_Menu_december2011.pdf (http://www.theflatirongrill.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/PDF-Dinner_Menu_december2011.pdf)

Normally I get the roasted cauliflower side & a side of mashers (it's more than enough to share and still make 2 meals out of). Tonight I'd get the spinach salad (no bacon). Temptations: they have aMAZing desserts- I will be very, very tempted to order one. Also- they feature several of my very favorite local wines (which aren't frequently featured on restaurant menus, so I like to be supportive) AND they have a huge whiskey library. It will be very hard for me to not order a drink. On the flip side, this is a very local restaurant and not owned by a chain/corp and I really like to support good food, not chain owned, in my hometown.

Restaurant B: http://www.siprestaurant.com/food.html (http://www.siprestaurant.com/food.html)
 We usually order a couple of small plates to share- usually the chips & dip (pita & hummus), the nuts & olives, and maybe something like the risotto. Or sometimes we split the ravioli of the day (last time it was cheese ravioli in a cream sauce :o). I'd be tempted to ask if they'd do the gnocchi veggie for me or eat an entire dish of the risotto myself (again,if they'll do it veggie. This is our local wine bar. They have a good, but expensive, wine list. But they have one of my favorite teas there so I am ok just ordering tea. The menu is ok. The desserts don't tempt me. This place is owned by a local chain. It feeds into the whole corporate-but-local thing that we have going on in my area that I hate (so hard to find little neighborhood type places).

Help! Rest B is better for my diet because I don't *love* their food. It's good... but not amazing. Rest A is probably going to be diet fail. But... much better for my soul. Hmmm but vs soul. How do I decide?
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 10, 2012, 05:59:17 PM
If you are going out I vote "soul".
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Post by: nadra24 on February 10, 2012, 06:31:44 PM
See, this is my conundrum.  I know that if I was more particular about what I ate, I'd weigh less.  But I'm an okay weight for my height and I look about the same as I did when I was 12# lighter (my all-time adult low, achieved last fall).  Now, part of the reason I gained some weight back is that I didn't step.away.from.the.Snickers, but I really don't like obsessing over what I eat as much as I feel like I have to in order to maintain my weight.

Now, this weekend might be a different story.  I'm driving out to see Kenyan as soon as I get out of work, and I didn't have time last night to make a sandwich for my dinner.  I've got some healthy road snacks, but we'll see how that goes.  I predict a Subway stop in my future, though I prefer to get something that's easier to eat in the car and sub sandwiches don't really fit the bill.
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Post by: merigayle on February 10, 2012, 06:36:11 PM
Nadra- when you tie the knot, where are you two gonna live?

RA-- neither restaurant fired me up. The first one's quinoa salad looked good, that was about it. I really only go to vegetarian restaurants, so it is hard for me to see a more traditional menu :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on February 10, 2012, 06:51:51 PM
Meri, we don't know yet.  He works for the school district, so jobs for next year aren't posted yet.  We're hoping he finds something here in the Salt Lake area, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 10, 2012, 06:56:43 PM
Meri, we don't know yet.  He works for the school district, so jobs for next year aren't posted yet.  We're hoping he finds something here in the Salt Lake area, but we'll see.
i hope it works out. i was thinking about that today, oddly enough! LOL. I was thinking about WY and my mind wandered.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 10, 2012, 09:48:51 PM
Nice pic RA!

I've been away all day visiting with my brand spanking new adorable niece.   :heartbeat:  She was worth the 29 hour labor I didn't have to go through. 

I didn't do so well on eating today but did get a lot of fruit & veggies at the grocery store for tomorrow.  Still suffering from a cold and I'm so over all of the congestion.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 10, 2012, 10:10:21 PM
See, this is my conundrum.  I know that if I was more particular about what I ate, I'd weigh less.  But I'm an okay weight for my height and I look about the same as I did when I was 12# lighter (my all-time adult low, achieved last fall).  Now, part of the reason I gained some weight back is that I didn't step.away.from.the.Snickers, but I really don't like obsessing over what I eat as much as I feel like I have to in order to maintain my weight.

I am totally in the same boat (except for not being at an ok weight for my height).  While I have a buttload of low hanging fruit to work on right now, I don't have any desire to be super strict.  Which will result in me always being a little softer than ideal.  I'd be a lot happier with 20 lbs less, and I think I could still have room in my diet for fun times and special food.  And wine. 

RA, I know which way I'd choose :D  I hope you enjoy either place!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 10, 2012, 10:18:37 PM
RA, going out and having a nice meal will feel decadent enough that you won't even want the dessert at the end of the night -- watch and see! Maybe you can have a bite or share one. You won't want the whole thing.

And you look great, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 10, 2012, 10:20:52 PM
Guys, I'd like to move this over to the Food forum, does anybody have any major objections to that?

I'm trying to pump up traffic a little more over there and will be pushing more of the appropriate threads in that direction.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 11, 2012, 07:48:46 AM
Up 2 for no good reason.  Disgruntled. 

I don't have a problem with it Bonita, but I'm starting a new one over here if it dies over there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 11, 2012, 08:24:29 AM
Down 2 at my weigh in yesterday.  I was hoping for me, but over 50 means slooowwwww weight loss. Just a little over 3 weeks left in the Biggest Loser, I'd like to make it an even 15 by then, but I think that is going to be very very hard to do.

I have been logging all of my food and exercising almost every day. I don't know what I can do to make the weight come off any easier.. and I can fluctuate up 3-4 lbs a day for no reason.

Last night was not good.. I went to the cougartown viewing party that I had tickets too and my friend and I split a very small veggie brickoven pizza.. (I had only two small pieces and she ate the rest) and got calamari (fried)...and I had a glass of wine.. It was not that volumnious so moving forward today.

I do know I have not been diligent with my water drinking so maybe if I step that up the weight will come off a bit easier.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on February 11, 2012, 08:54:29 AM
Last night was not good.. I went to the cougartown viewing party that I had tickets too and my friend and I split a very small veggie brickoven pizza.. (I had only two small pieces and she ate the rest) and got calamari (fried)...and I had a glass of wine.. It was not that volumnious so moving forward today.

See, this actually sounds like you did really well, to me. Sure, fried calamari are not health food, but they are real food and you were out. As long as you don't do this often, I don't see anything wrong with it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 11, 2012, 09:18:06 AM
See, this actually sounds like you did really well, to me. Sure, fried calamari are not health food, but they are real food and you were out. As long as you don't do this often, I don't see anything wrong with it.

Yeah, well.. I did have to eat.. And there were no better options.. I kind of knew yesterday was going to be an off day since we had a work breakfast too.. I forgot to mention I have some ice cream as well. But it is life and it is what it is and what it is not, is an excuse to be off all weekend. I am going away overnight to night and will also be confronted by hotel/restaraunt/diner foor and I have to make good choices.. I'm not in a "maintain" phase.. I have to come through for my team!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 11, 2012, 11:21:47 AM
I hope the thread doesn't die over here! I am a minimal poster here I know, but this thread is helping me keep my focus.

MOS, I wouldn't fret too much over the one night.  Of course you want to "come through for the team", but this is also life and you are doing this for the long haul so you want to have stamina. I think your choices were fine, really it is all about portion control anyway. 

I am finding that wine is a huge calorie suck for me. I love a nightly glass but it adds up too much. So, I am thinking of switching to a vodka and lime with soda or something along those lines for my non work night cocktail. Other than that, I am really pretty focused still.  My COW brought candy in for the office and I can *this close* to having a reese's yesterday afternoon out of boredom and because it was there. I walked to steps with it in my hand and turned around and tossed it back into the basket. I saved the cal's for my wine I guess!
Also, I pulled my name of the HIIT signup list. A couple of reasons. 1. It is 50$ extra on top of my gym membership and we have our trip coming up I would rather have it for. 2. Now that I am feeling better, and starting to feel strong again I am in the  *danger zone* for me. I tend to push myself hard (because I used to be soooo strong and resilient!) and I end up with an injury. I worry about re hurting my shoulder, even tho she said she could work around it...I KNOW me. So I will stick with Jillians and running. 
I would like to get back into the pool...I think my ear is finally back to normal...so I will go next Tuesday am.

I hope every one has a good day today.  :)  It is raining here so no outdoor family run with the dogs for us unless it stops soon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 11, 2012, 11:36:41 AM
So, phase one of the weekend-of-food down. Met my friend at restaurant option B becaus it's about 2 minutes from my park & ride and I didn't feel like driving all the way into town. (I worked from 6am to 5pm yesterday and was just beat by then) I had one glass of wine (and they do NOT overpour their very expensive glasses by even a single drop) and we "shared" a hummus plate and a plate of brussels sprouts. She also got an ahi poke plate though so I was pretty much on my own with the hummus plate. I ate all the pita (maybe 2 pitas) and most of the hummus/tapenade/red pepper. It was maybe 2-3 tbs of each. So, not terrible. Plus some of the sprouts- which were doused in brown butter... but sooooo goood. The wait staff was trying to shoo us out (we often have 3-4 hour dinners, she and I) so eventually we took the hint and headed to the mexican place next door. I didn't have a single chip. Wasn't even tempted. I had a beer (a pint) at that place. Another friend joined us at the second bar. I nursed my beer all night (they each had at least 4 drinks). I *was* tempted to stop at the ben & jerry's scoop shop next door but I resisted temptation and told myself I would make somethign sweet when I got home, if I still felt like I needed it.  Turns out, I was over it by the time I got home.

Back down to .2lb higher than my lowest weight today. The hormone puffiness has finally subsided. I am 3lbs from my goal for wednesday so seems unlikely I'll hit it. Whatever. If can manage to lose another 1-2lbs by then, I will be absolutely thrilled as that will put me at 13-14lbs for 8 weeks. If I can lose another 10-15lbs in the next 8 weeks I'll be at my goal.

Phase two is set to commence in about 2 hours. Lunch with a friend and then the day at the glass museum. 

Guys, I'd like to move this over to the Food forum, does anybody have any major objections to that?

No particular objections although I think that what will happen is the people who might otherwise lurk in this thread probably won't. *shrug*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 11, 2012, 02:40:33 PM
I ran 4.2 miles this afternoon.... it felt really good.  There is just no way to beat a good solid run.  I did my abs and really pushed myself to feel the burn....AND I was inspired by merigayle and tried some regular style push ups.  I can do 12 !!!!   OMG that is so huge for me.  I've never been able to do ONE.  It really felt awesome and has given me an extra mojo boost.

I still have a lingering cold but it doesn't seem quite as bad.  David is coughing today so I guess they are getting the crap end of it now.

I made pancakes for breakfast with some strawberries.  We'll munch some fruit for lunch and I'm probably gonna make a curry tonight, or something chicken based.  OH, actually maybe a lemon-orzo pasta dish I saw on pinterest. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 11, 2012, 02:50:11 PM


No particular objections although I think that what will happen is the people who might otherwise lurk in this thread probably won't. *shrug*

Their loss, not ours. Lurkers don't contribute!  :fiery:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 11, 2012, 02:54:15 PM
Good for you Bolloxed! You rocked your run and your push ups!

We ended up taking Hank and Dewey for a rainy run at Headwaters. It wasn't pouring so it was actually rather pleasant. Both the dogs were really happy to stretch their legs..as were we. I think we may do a Jillian workout this afternoon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 11, 2012, 03:32:57 PM
Forecast not looking good for a long run tomorrow :( (negative wind chills, ice, high winds) I went to Costco today and had a couple samples and they were DELICIOUS :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 11, 2012, 04:00:40 PM
Forecast not looking good for a long run tomorrow :( (negative wind chills, ice, high winds) I went to Costco today and had a couple samples and they were DELICIOUS :D

I changed my weekend around and planned my run for tomorrow, because I thought it was going to snow last night. I figured I'd get a workout in today when I shoveled all the snow, and then by tomorrow the streets would be clear for a run.

We got no snow and I've been sitting on the couch all day!  :fiery: It had better not suck outside tomorrow.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 11, 2012, 04:08:18 PM
Total lack of motivation weekend for me!  Sick all day yesterday.  Much better today but no desire to be good, so I've decided to treat myself to a weekend off.  Mexican for dinner tonight I think, after a movie.  There will be wine and maybe chocolate too. Who knows?  Thanks to VeriZon no Internet service until Monday.   :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 11, 2012, 06:04:47 PM
My running partner says she'll meet up with me tomorrow (though she is infamous for cancelling last minute) she is my only hope to muster thru the temps tomorrow. Gotta locate those fleece lined tights!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 11, 2012, 08:01:23 PM
i was doing ok, then it went all downhill. ate half of DD's granola bar she did not eat, ate 1/2 piece of vegan pizza DH made, ate my dinner (which was good diet wise) and finished the avocado choc pudding in the fridge.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 11, 2012, 09:02:46 PM
I probably belong in the unhealthy eating thread. French fries and porter and cupcakes, oh my! Feeling a bit sick so I might skip dinner.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 12, 2012, 07:27:55 AM
well, not looking good for a long run today :( running partner canceled, super cold and it looks like an ice skating rink outside :( hoping to get 2 one hour treadmill runs in today, better than nothing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 12, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
Meri - avocado chocolate pudding? What ??

My cold turned into a sinus infection. Thanks to drugs, I'm feeling better, but still. Gah. Hoping to get back to exercise tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 12, 2012, 09:32:21 AM
I fully intend to work out today. Just trying to decide if I want to bundle up and run outside or if I haul my butt to the gym.

I think I'll do the outdoor run. But I have to psych myself up a little for it...
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 12, 2012, 09:50:04 AM
I probably belong in the unhealthy eating thread. French fries and porter and cupcakes, oh my! Feeling a bit sick so I might skip dinner.


That sounds delicious.  I ate some candies yesterday and way too many scallops but still down a pound.  Rest day today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 12, 2012, 10:27:29 AM
choc avocado pudding---

1 avocado + 1/4 c cocoa powder + 1/4 cup milk of choice + 1/4 cup agave (i guess honey if you have no agave?) + 1 tsp vanilla, blended together. It is super tasty!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think i had to add a little extra soy milk to get it to blend in the magic bullet. I used choc soy milk :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 12, 2012, 10:30:43 AM
I would never have thought of that!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 12, 2012, 11:32:16 AM
Wow, that pudding sounds good!

We had ribs for dinner last night, and broccoli. Delish! My weigh in was fine this morning. Holding steady with the recent loss.  I did end up running yesterday, it rained lightly but was actually rather pleasant. 
This morning I have step class, and then over to a friends to cut (get help) a few more pieces for a quilt I am attempting.

I am not sure what the food plan is for the day. I am not super hungry right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 12, 2012, 11:55:03 AM
the pudding is really good!!!!!! I thought it was a good healthy treat for DD, and of course I could not resist :D trying to be good today. my friend and i are taking some sort of glass fusing class tonight and it is at dinner time. i may pick up a subway sandwich or something (since i moved my office almost 4 years ago, i have had subway only like 3 times! LOL)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 12, 2012, 12:00:49 PM
I was kind of disappointed by the scale today. I weigh daily, so it shouldn't be a big deal, but I've been on a slow and steady downward trend and then today I was inexplicably up two pounds. I stayed on plan yesterday and don't think I ate much salty stuff either.

I did NOT drink a lot of water yesterday, so that could be it. I'm sure the numbers will go back down in a day or two, but it's still disheartening.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 12, 2012, 07:54:03 PM
I've had this nasty cold (or flu?) thing that got really bad Friday and Saturday.  I had to cancel on the 5k I was supposed to do with a friend.  I feel terrible about that, but I couldn't even walk the dogs around the block.  It really wiped me out.  Today I still slept in and also took a long nap, but I feel like I'm turning the corner.

My very sweet BF made us cauliflower and lentils for lunch, and will make salmon and asparagus for dinner.  I did have a single scoop of ice cream as a treat today, and boy did that hit the spot!  I was satisfied with the one scoop and totally ok with not getting a giant sundae full of candy bits, which is what I'd have wanted in the past.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 12, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
So, my trainwrecky weekend is winding down. Friday night wasn't terrible. Saturday was pretty awful. In addition to the things I already mentioned, I ate most of the rest of the cupcake from earlier in the day, had 2 cans of fosters and 2 cheesey breadsticks for dinner. So... yeah... it was bad. Today wasn't great but wasn't horrible. Fruit and a mini muffing for brunch. I also had a bite of a donut. I made myself a veggie wrap when I got home and ate a 2 cup portion of soup. It's 6:30 now. I'm feeling a bit hungry. I may just eat some fiber one and granola for dinner followed by a buch of teal. Ready to get back on the program tomorrow!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: orzabellle on February 12, 2012, 09:43:52 PM
RA, you get back on tomorrow and in two or three days, you'll feel virtuous again. I hope you enjoyed it! We have all this chocolate in the house. I know that one of these days, I'm just going to have to HAVE SOME.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 12, 2012, 09:52:18 PM
I did enjoy it. Everything but the brunch today and calories wise it wasn't horrible.

Friday night was a cathartic 2 hour dinner with a friend followed by a 2 hour giggle fest after another friend joined us. Totally worth the two drinks and I'm ok with the hummus place.

Saturday a met up with a friend from middle school. We sat and talked over lunch and a beer for 2 hours. We toured a museum and then had a cupcake and talked some more. She is the SAHM of a 2 y/o that keeps her on her toes. She doesn't get out much without him and was ready for some indulgence. I couldn't just leave her on her own! ;)

Today wasn't terrible although I'm tempted to pour myself a glass of wine!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wombleatwimbledon on February 13, 2012, 02:57:32 AM
choc avocado pudding---

1 avocado + 1/4 c cocoa powder + 1/4 cup milk of choice + 1/4 cup agave (i guess honey if you have no agave?) + 1 tsp vanilla, blended together. It is super tasty!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think i had to add a little extra soy milk to get it to blend in the magic bullet. I used choc soy milk :D

We've been watching a bit of River Cottage lately, and he did a vegetarian series which has been really interesting.  He went to a vegan dinner party and the hosts made a raw chocolate ganache tart which is kind of similar (but not) to your pudding. I am keen to give this a go sometime..

For the base

    300g pecans or almonds
    1 tsp pink Himalayan salt, or any other good-quality salt
    200g medjool dates


For the filling

    4 medium sized ripe avocados
    150g virgin coconut oil
    2 vanilla pods, seeds only
    200g raw cacao powder
    Pinch of salt
    300g coconut blossom sugar or agave nectar to taste

Method

    In a food processor, blend the pecans or almonds (if possible, soak them for around 6 hours and then dehydrate them first. The soaking releases the enzyme inhibitors and makes them easier to digest.) Add the salt and medjool dates and blend until you have a ‘dough’, or until the mix forms a ball.

    Press this mixture into the bottom of a mould. Cover in cling film and leave to harden in the freezer until you are ready to pour on the filling. I like to use a silicone mould. They are freezer safe and easy to get the tart out once it has set.

    For the filling, blend everything together until smooth, then pour onto the base.

    Set in the freezer for 1 hour, then it should be firm enough to slice up. Top with fresh berries, edible flowers, a dusting of cacao powder- whatever takes your fancy and looks pretty!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 13, 2012, 08:34:53 AM
Not talking about what's on the scale.  In denial, pissed off.

I am finding cutting out grains and sugar much harder than I thought.  Weekdays it's no problem.  On the weekends I feel entitled to a chocolate, a cupcake, potato, graham crackers.  Most weekends I'm more active to offset it, but my husband was sick this weekend so we didn't do much. 

So it's weekday life again - not entitled to treats, not entitled to be lazy.  My excuses are invalid. 

She said, sipping a coffee with a teaspoon of sugar.   ;;}
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 13, 2012, 09:02:33 AM
I've had this nasty cold (or flu?) thing that got really bad Friday and Saturday.  I had to cancel on the 5k I was supposed to do with a friend.  I feel terrible about that, but I couldn't even walk the dogs around the block.  It really wiped me out.  Today I still slept in and also took a long nap, but I feel like I'm turning the corner.

My very sweet BF made us cauliflower and lentils for lunch, and will make salmon and asparagus for dinner.  I did have a single scoop of ice cream as a treat today, and boy did that hit the spot!  I was satisfied with the one scoop and totally ok with not getting a giant sundae full of candy bits, which is what I'd have wanted in the past.
I am sure your friend understands.  :buttpat: Glad you are feeling better.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 13, 2012, 09:08:35 AM
Good morning everyone.


MIni, enjoy your coffee!  I am drinking mine with nf milk and a splash of vanilla soy.

My step class was killer yesterday! We ended up having meatless monday on Sunday. Homemade black beans and brown rice with an oz of cheddar.  It was good! I am having the same for lunch today. This morning I will run, actually in a few minutes I will head up to the 'mill. Oh, and I resigned up for HIIT! I am such a goob.  It starts tomorrow morning.  :panic:
If I don't show in here Weds am then you will know it killed me.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 13, 2012, 09:34:54 AM
Not talking about what's on the scale.  In denial, pissed off.

I am finding cutting out grains and sugar much harder than I thought.  Weekdays it's no problem.  On the weekends I feel entitled to a chocolate, a cupcake, potato, graham crackers.  Most weekends I'm more active to offset it, but my husband was sick this weekend so we didn't do much. 

So it's weekday life again - not entitled to treats, not entitled to be lazy.  My excuses are invalid. 

She said, sipping a coffee with a teaspoon of sugar.   ;;}

Mini, I feel your pain about the scale. I have been completely ON PLAN all month, have exercised almost every day, saw slow and steady progress all month. Then yesterday and today I was up both days, and now (according to the evil scale) have "lost" my progress from the last two weeks entirely. WTF.

I *know* in my head that the number on the scale is just one data point, and that the number will go back down if I stay on plan, but it pisses me off entirely. Drives me nuts.

I was wearing a pair of pants yesterday that was too small on me a few weeks ago, and I should focus on that instead of a stupid number on the scale. If I repeat that last sentence enough times I will possibly believe it, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 13, 2012, 09:55:01 AM
My husband cracks me up:

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/MiniDriver066/2012-02-13_09-05-45_146.jpg)

However, there is no chocolate in this Valentine.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 13, 2012, 09:56:58 AM
That's so cute!  :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 13, 2012, 10:07:16 AM
Super cute! Very yummy looking.

I am at the same weight I was at weigh in and feeling grumbly about it.

Lunch and breakfast packed and ready to go.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 13, 2012, 10:09:28 AM
I'm still totaling up the weekend points, but I don't think I did too badly. Not great, but the scale is holding steady instead of going up. Considering I'm on an exciting array of drugs and have been all over the place with my eating (my parents got barbecue for lunch this weekend, and I'm a sucker for potato salad), and DH and I went on a date Saturday night, I'll take what I can get.

I'm hoping that I'll be able to breathe normally again tomorrow and can get back to exercising, if not tomorrow morning, than Wednesday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 13, 2012, 01:18:47 PM
aha! Here you are. I didn't know this was moved. You can't lose me that easy!!

OK, to start a thread which is why I came over here to begin with.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 13, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
Mini that is so sweet of your hubby.  I really want one of those edible arrangements but as much as they cost I tell myself I could just make one....but never do. 

My weight has equalized I think.  I'm pleased with that.  I'm getting some muscle that even DH has started to noticed (a miracle in itself).

I ran 4.33 miles today, did my 10 minute abs - which thinking about it I should do more, and restarted my push-ups app but doing normal push-ups instead of girlie/knee ones.

Food has been good the last few days, with the exception of finishing off b-day cake.  I've tried a couple new recipes out for pesto chicken and maple/apple pork chops that were both pretty tasty.  I've been having smoothies as my snacks, too. 


Anyone have a good phone application for an Abs routine?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 13, 2012, 03:06:22 PM
i love the hello kitty! i have gotten a couple edible arrangements and they are nice, but crazy pricey!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on February 13, 2012, 04:06:32 PM
I was worried that the weekend was going to be a total bust, since I went out to Kenyan's for his birthday.  It's a 4 hour drive, which is hard for me food-wise because snacking helps keep me awake, and also because we eat out a lot because his kitchen is not well-stocked at all.  I didn't have as much time as I wanted on Thursday night to pack food for the weekend, but I did get breakfast packed for both days and then picked up salad fixings for Saturday lunch when I got into town.  I also brought some veggies, yogurt, and string cheese to snack on.  I probably could have made better eating-out choices, but I didn't eat any cake on Sunday and resisted the urge to buy chips and candy bars when I stopped for gas on the road.  We did also go running together on Saturday, so that helped.  I maintained over the weekend which I'm happy with. 

We'll see how next weekend goes, we're going out to Boston and Rhode Island to visit Kenyan's parents and I'll have even less control over the places we eat.   :sigh:  This weight loss thing is hard for me right now.  I feel like the whole wedding thing should be really motivating, but it's just not. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 13, 2012, 05:03:16 PM
I ate great so far today and I got in a nice long run.

I think I forgot to stretch when I got back. At any rate, I have no conscious memory of doing so. I'll bet I'll feel it when I get up from the desk in a few minutes....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 13, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
DH's only request for V day is the death by chocolate cake that i have made before. It is literally a bagillion calories per slice. I licked the spoon and then drowned the bowl in water to prevent anything worse. when i make the frosting tomorrow, i must be strong! sigh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 13, 2012, 07:29:20 PM
I am on a smoothie kick. If I resist the urge to add *anything* to it, it's not too bad caloriewise and makes a good afternoon snack. 1/2 cup 2% fage, 1 cup water (or skim milk, if I'm feeling daring), 1/4 cup oat or wheat bran, 1 banana, 2-3 cups spinach & 1tbs spirulina. The banana isn't on plan for me so I've been thinking about what else I could use (it gives it a good texture and makes it plenty sweet).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 13, 2012, 07:46:59 PM
I am on a smoothie kick. If I resist the urge to add *anything* to it, it's not too bad caloriewise and makes a good afternoon snack. 1/2 cup 2% fage, 1 cup water (or skim milk, if I'm feeling daring), 1/4 cup oat or wheat bran, 1 banana, 2-3 cups spinach & 1tbs spirulina. The banana isn't on plan for me so I've been thinking about what else I could use (it gives it a good texture and makes it plenty sweet).

I do not like bananas in smoothies so I use pumpkin that I freeze into cubes for texture and some frozen berries for sweetness
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 13, 2012, 07:48:36 PM
Ra, what about adding a little honey?


I stayed within my eating plan for the day...my run this morning turned into a half hearted uphill walk and a short run. I count today as a needed rest day. My dinner tonite is grilled salmon, broccoli and  sliced baby red and purple potato baked with a bit of olive oil.

Tomorrow I go to HIIT in the am. (I changed my mind back).  :P
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 13, 2012, 07:53:05 PM
I think I'm going to try the pumpkin & berry idea. The pumpkin will giveit a similar amount of body. Does anyone know if the claims about yacon syrup not metabolizing are true?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 13, 2012, 08:24:26 PM
never even heard of yacon syrup. I have been using very small amounts of stevia.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 13, 2012, 08:33:51 PM
You can also use dates for sweetness but they might not be on your diet. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 13, 2012, 08:53:53 PM
meri! I thought for sure you'd know all about yacon!

Dates are ok. Prunes are ok. Stevia is ok. Mostly with the bananas it's the texture though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 13, 2012, 10:52:04 PM
Cupcakes for dinner. Ok, a cupcake for dinner. I am really sucking at this all of a sudden.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 14, 2012, 08:09:42 AM
now i should google yacon?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 14, 2012, 08:28:18 AM
I am not talking to or about the scale today.

Warning: the M&Ms cherry flavor are delicious.  They taste like delectable chocolate-covered cherries.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 14, 2012, 08:29:08 AM
 :luvcoffee: Drinking my latte in bed. I leave for HIIT in 45 minutes.   :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 14, 2012, 08:30:00 AM
interesting read on yacon, will see if the natural food store carries it.

have fun at your training  :lambie:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 09:15:46 AM
Scale is holding steady - considering the amount of crud in my sinuses, I'll take it. Eating has been okay, but haven't been able to exercise since I got sick and it's getting frustrating. I'm contemplating the gym tonight, but I'll have to see how I feel towards the end of the work day.

My boss gave me a box of Thin Mints for Valentine's Day.  :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

I'm hoping they make it home to my freezer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 14, 2012, 09:32:23 AM
mmmm frozen thin mints...... huh? what? what am i doing? drooling??????  :argh:

Anywho, DD is staying home from school today which means most likely no run for me :( I usually drop her off at school and squeeze a run in before work. If I can get her to nap early, before i go to work, maybe i can hop on the TM. sigh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 09:40:22 AM
Yeah, the box is sitting on my desk, taunting me. So far, so good, though. Doesn't help that the prednisone is making me mildly twitchy, so I want to demolish everything in my path right now. If I can just get the damn things to the freezer, they'll be safe, and so will I.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on February 14, 2012, 09:42:32 AM
Scale is holding steady - considering the amount of crud in my sinuses, I'll take it. Eating has been okay, but haven't been able to exercise since I got sick and it's getting frustrating. I'm contemplating the gym tonight, but I'll have to see how I feel towards the end of the work day.

My boss gave me a box of Thin Mints for Valentine's Day.  :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

I'm hoping they make it home to my freezer.

Re-gift or don't open them at all until you next have company over.  They will probably taste like sinus anyway if you are still sick.  If they don't, you are healthy enough to hit the gym!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 09:49:27 AM
I'm not regifting my Thin Mints!!!! The sinus issue is actually what's keeping me from digging in - I don't want to ruin them with the taste of crud. It's weird, though, if I can get them to the freezer, I have a pretty good shot at forgetting they're in there, and then rationing them out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 14, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
Re-gift or don't open them at all until you next have company over.  They will probably taste like sinus anyway if you are still sick.  If they don't, you are healthy enough to hit the gym!

There's the spirit!!!  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 14, 2012, 10:00:11 AM
*sigh* I'm pretty mad at myself right now. The eating part of this has been pretty easy for the past 7 weeks and then all of a sudden? Gah! I just can't keep my sh1t together. I don't know what is wrong with me. Maybe I need to go back to the beginning of the diet and recallibrate myself. Yesterday was going just fine until I split two cupcakes with dd (quality control, you know) and tasted way too much of the icing. She ended up with almost 4 dozen cupcakes so I brought a dozen to work today. I'm having a weirdly difficult time not eating one. I have zero self control. This diet has worked for me because I haven't had to have self control... for whatever reason that piece is eluding me this week.  :grr: Maybe I'm subconsciously stress eating in anticipation of my mom's visit this weekend.  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 10:04:46 AM
I've been there RA, and, like you, I don't know what triggers it. In your case, it could easily be your mom's upcoming visit, though. Is there something else you can do to allay your anxieties about the visit? Maybe that will take the edge off the need to eat?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 14, 2012, 10:27:23 AM
I'm not usually an emotional eater. I actually feeling relativey zen about my mom visiting. I think. Although sometimes I lie to myself about stuff like that. ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 14, 2012, 10:30:01 AM
Do you think maybe it is because you kind of feel ok with the weight you are now?  I think sometimes when we reach mini goals we sort of feel like we have done enough and we lose some of that drive to keep going. 

I am glad you are feeling zen about your mom visiting though. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 14, 2012, 10:31:36 AM
I do think that could be part of it. I'm really *not* where I want to be though! That is what's frusterating. I did say at one point that I was going to take a break after the first 8 weeks and maybe I will. I am finding it harder to be as strict and also finding it easier to pick up that glass of wine, etc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 10:45:19 AM
Yeah, but you've also been working really hard at this. Is there a way for you to allow the occasional indulgence without going totally off-track? I'm being really strict right now, because, to me, junk food is as heroin is to a junkie. I get one hit and I'm fucked.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 14, 2012, 10:54:03 AM
 :hah: I feel like I'm kind of in the same boat.  I think I've just gotten into kind of a lazy rut where I can't be bothered to make myself a sandwich for lunch or whatever and then I end up hungry and then I can't control myself. I wouldn't feel so bad about it if my weight weren't totally and completely stalled. I have bounced around within a 2-3 lb range since the end of the wlc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 11:01:01 AM
I will say this, though - I have laid off the junk food, but not so much with the alcohol. I can have a glass of wine at dinner, or a can of cider, and be fine with that. I am NOT capable, though, of eating only one Reese's Mini, or one normal pack of Skittles, or a small bag of chips.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 14, 2012, 11:19:52 AM
Oh, yeah, generally I have no problem limitting myself to a glass of wine. But... I do think I've seen a positive impact on my ability to actually sleep at night since I've cut even that out of my diet. But, I found this weekend that it's *very* easy for me to slip back into the habit of a glass of wine or a beer a night. I just need to rein it in. I feel like I'm on a pretty slippery slope and it would be pretty easy for me to slip back into old habits... mostly in the evening. Breakfast and lunch are easy. BUT, that was how I maintained for a long time last time- and once I was off the wagon in the evening it became very easy for portion sizes to creep back up and then to go out for lunch a few times a week and there I am... right back where I started.

I'm just kind of having a  :panic: in general though. I was ready to throw in the towel by 6:30 this morning (I got her at 6:10). It's been one fire-drill after another... with no signs of quitting yet!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 14, 2012, 11:21:37 AM
I love thin mints!!!! Just stash them in the freezer if you can.

RA...while you guys were doing the wlc over the holidays I was on "hiatus" from my eating. I started back to my nightly wine etc and it felt like I really needed that break! Don't beat yourself up if your needing a breather.
The key is not to take such a long breakthat it is impossible to get back at it.

I survived my HIIT class. I was the strongest one there, and busted a move!  I am going to he very sore tho. It is mostly core work at high intensity. I figured it is only a half an hour so I will push. I have to say that jillian's workouts had me pretty well prepared!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 14, 2012, 11:22:15 AM
It's hard, it is very hard, and then i get bitter like "why can everyone else eat whatever they want and i cannot unless i want to weigh 800lbs?" and go on this big pity party, which leads to emotional eating, etc. I do fine for a while, then i get mopey. Well, i made the cake. i liked the frosting bowl. i will eat a sliver tonight, and hopefully that is it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 11:24:04 AM
Yeah, someone just mentioned they brought a Chocolate Mousse Cake to the break room.  :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

I'm trying really, really hard to avoid it. If there's any left after lunch, I might allow myself a small slice. Maybe.

I've also been really paying attention to portion sizes at dinner, and have found that I'm perfectly happy with a normal-sized portion. If a recipe is supposed to serve 6, I do not need to eat half of it. Neither does DH, but that's his ass to worry about.

RA, are you at a point where you could work a cheat day in on a regular basis? That way, on a day like today, you know that it's going to be your cheat day and then tomorrow you're right back on track?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 14, 2012, 11:57:37 AM
I've also been really paying attention to portion sizes at dinner, and have found that I'm perfectly happy with a normal-sized portion. If a recipe is supposed to serve 6, I do not need to eat half of it. Neither does DH, but that's his ass to worry about.
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This is huge for me. I still struggle with this. Even though I know in my head that even 1/2 of the portion size with a big salad is enoug for me. That voice inside my head is saying, "oh, no, you really want another piece of cheese, just one more scoop", etc. So, I'm forever promising myself an extra portion if I'm really still hungry. I usually am fine though.

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RA, are you at a point where you could work a cheat day in on a regular basis? That way, on a day like today, you know that it's going to be your cheat day and then tomorrow you're right back on track?

The thing is that I feel like I already do that. At least one meal a week where I'm eating out. In general, I've felt pretty happy and satisfied with what I'm eating. I really haven't been excercising great self control. So, that's why these past few days has been kind of crazy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 12:18:19 PM
Hmmmm, I see, at least with the cheat day. Maybe your cheats aren't satisfying you? I mean, if I were going to cheat by having ice cream, and I had a skinny cow instead of a small Ben & Jerry's, I don't know that I'd be satisfied, you know?

In the meantime, this was my latest email exchange with DH:

"Well, since we're not doing anything tonight, I might let myself have a small slice of the cake after lunch if there's any left."

"Sure, go for it - good luck!"

 :sigh: He's so clueless.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 14, 2012, 12:28:49 PM
Good point. Maybe I'm not being indulgent enough.

I hear ya on the dh. It sounds like he's trying to be supportive though. DH has been staying out of my diet after I yelled at him once pretty early on for poking fun at my diet food.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 14, 2012, 12:31:58 PM
My DH has really disordered eating. Lately he has been juicing (like with the juicer) and eating these meal replacement raw food drinks. Very little real food. Well, the juice is real food, but is there any fiber left???? He could easily go a whole day on 500 calories and not even get hungry. he never thinks about food, etc. It is very difficult, he has no idea what i go thru and how my mind works.

oh, and the sick kid taking an early nap before shipping her off to the neighbor's?  :sidesplit: i better hop in the shower and start getting ready for work. sigh. Which means no exercise. Whatever. Tomorrow is a new day.

Chocolate mousse does not do it for me, neither does cheesecake (although both are quite tasty). i love me some good old birthday cake :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 12:52:54 PM
He's trying to be supportive, definitely. He's getting there. It would help if I could tell him how to be supportive, but I honestly don't know what I need, other than that he doesn't have to be the food police.

And I guess, for me, if I'm going to indulge/cheat/whatever, I want it to be worth my while, you know? None of this skinny cow stuff. I want the real thing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 14, 2012, 01:34:23 PM
I've pretty much told my dh that he isn't allowed to comment on what I'm eating, not eating, or should be eating, unless I solicit input. It's just too emotional for me to get feedback from him. Plus, what works for him (excercising and self control) doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 14, 2012, 01:38:39 PM
I've pretty much told my dh that he isn't allowed to comment on what I'm eating, not eating, or should be eating, unless I solicit input. It's just too emotional for me to get feedback from him. Plus, what works for him (excercising and self control) doesn't work for me.

Absolutely.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 14, 2012, 02:08:43 PM
Does everyone have me on ignore in this thread?!?  I know I am not a big poster but I have been posting consistently in this thread since the beginning and really feel like I get little to no feedback ... Good, bad or otherwise. It is like I am invisible.

 :(



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 02:11:22 PM
DH's problem is that he's in total denial about his size, so he doesn't see the issue with me eating seconds, or getting ice cream, or squeezing in a workout, or whatever. Every once in a blue moon, he'll kind of realize, but then he goes and has a beer.

I can't force him to get on board the exercise and eating well train, so I don't. But it means he has a hard time supporting me.

Oh, and that stupid chocolate cake wasn't all that great. It was fine, but eh.  :grr:

And Mouse, I think you're doing great! I'm just fat and out of shape, so I have nothing constructive to say about HIIT, but I'll be very curious to know what kind of results you get. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 14, 2012, 02:19:29 PM
Does everyone have me on ignore in this thread?!?  I know I am not a big poster but I have been posting consistently in this thread since the beginning and really feel like I get little to no feedback ... Good, bad or otherwise. It is like I am invisible.

 :(





I don't!!!

I actually meant to respond to your post about your class but I have a short attention span and forgot. What kind of moves did they do in the class?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 14, 2012, 02:19:37 PM
Does everyone have me on ignore in this thread?!?  I know I am not a big poster but I have been posting consistently in this thread since the beginning and really feel like I get little to no feedback ... Good, bad or otherwise. It is like I am invisible.
 :(

Aw! Thank you for saying something! Definitely not invisible and you've been doing great. 

Glad to hear the HIIT class was great. I know you were nervous about whether it was a good idea. How many days a week is it? I love the feeling of being nervous about something and then coming out feeling like it was easier than you thought it would be.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 14, 2012, 02:40:31 PM
I don't!!!

I actually meant to respond to your post about your class but I have a short attention span and forgot. What kind of moves did they do in the class?

I am also curious about the specifics of this class!  Spill it!  :D 

I'm struggling.  My weight is at a high right now, and I can really visually see it all of a sudden.  UGH. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 14, 2012, 03:00:01 PM
I have 30 DS dvd I am not using if anyone wants to try it  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 14, 2012, 03:28:15 PM
Mouse- i thought i told you to enjoy your class, i am sorry!!! I often feel ignored as well, tis life on a message board :D I am just jealous of your class. I wish i had time to take some classes like Crossfit, etc, but with the wee one, not really.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 14, 2012, 03:50:32 PM
On the positive side, I'm enjoying my (free) session with my personal trainer every week!  New job perk, and I love it! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 03:51:40 PM
That's an awesome perk!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 14, 2012, 03:54:46 PM
No doubt.  In addition to the awesome on-site gym.  And a boss who lets me work my schedule around working out! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 03:56:36 PM
I'd give anything for an onsite gym. I keep hoping that when we start to take over the mall next door, they'll put one in, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 14, 2012, 04:20:48 PM
Mouse, I am the queen of ignored so move it over sistah!

My bummer of the week is just when I was starting to run longer I went and did a race and now my knees are all banged up.
Oh well, I can still walk,do elliptical and when it gets warmer bike.I know people who can't do any of those! I knew there was a reason I was running so slow, but in the heat of the moment I forgot and started picking off people :D

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 14, 2012, 04:24:01 PM
hally-- heal up fast!

There is a gym behind my office. when we renegotiate the lease next year i am pushing for gym memberships, because i know another tenant got that last year! The gym kinda sucks and is overpriced, or i would consider it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 14, 2012, 04:28:29 PM
I'm hoping to get back to running tomorrow. The sinus infection is now under control. I'm still a bit congested, but not so badly that I think running would be impossible. I'll back up a few days in my training and see what happens.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 14, 2012, 10:58:44 PM
Thanks for the reassurances everyone.  It is easy to feel overlooked in the merry old ch sometimes.  I feel chagrined at my neediness.

Merigayle....check out the 30dshred, seriously. You can do it at home when the babe is snoozing. I think it is one of the best home workouts out there, and the time frame is really manageable for a mom.

Hally, heal fast! (and good for you for picking off a few runners! :)

Deb...feel better! My sinus infection took forever to go away..I feel your pain.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 14, 2012, 11:05:16 PM
Woo....a bottle of wine for me this Valentine's day!  Homemade pizza and salad for dinner.  I ran 1.5 miles but my knees were pissed about being pushed on yesterday's run.   I've been hula hooping...drunk...for roughly 45 minutes straight.

Mouse is there a website with similar moves to your class.? my abs need some fine tuning.

Hally do you usually have knee problems?  Mine are very temperamental and need lots of stretching to stay happy.  I find biofreeze helps too.

I need to look into this 30d shred stuff.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 15, 2012, 12:06:39 AM
*#$&@$#)(*

that is all.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 15, 2012, 12:12:01 AM
I read more than I post, but I answer you all in my head!  I feel bad if that means people might feel like I'm not paying attention to them, cause I am! 

I am officially sick of having sandwiches for lunch, so I need a new plan.  Maybe a hearty soup plus fruit lunch will be better for now.  I've also been adding in way too many extra treats.  We're going out for Valentine's day dinner on Sunday, so I will save my indulgence till then for the rest of the week.  Gah!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 15, 2012, 08:29:43 AM
what is 30dh?

I am home with sick kid today, gotta take her to the dr soon :( gotta cancel all my appts today  :panic: i hope i can get her to nap today and then hop on the TM, my fear is the HUGE cake in the fridge :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 15, 2012, 08:31:06 AM
I feel like that lady on Romper Room - I see Mouse, Hally, Merigayle, Bolluxd, Courtney, onawhim, debba, seattle...  And I love you all! 

Inexplicably down 2 today despite eating my weight in M&Ms cherry flavor. 

I think I'm kinda in a lull.  I was on a roll during the WLC, and had pretty close to 100% commitment.  The first two weeks of February I also had laser-like focus.  Now, not so much.  I feel rebellious and want to snack.  I sneak.  I sass back at my wii workout instructors.  It's understandable, but I don't like it.

Mouse, whose 30DS is it?  Jillians?  I'm not ready for it now, but I need something for when I'm down to the final 10.

Meri, I think it's a 30 day shred program.  Hope the little one's better soon!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 15, 2012, 08:45:21 AM
Hi Seattle! I usually end up bringing leftovers for my lunch.  I am on an apple with peanut butter jag for snacks, lately. On days with no leftovers I usually go with can soup (high sodium :( ).

For those that are curious, the class was 30 minutes...20 or so of intense core exercises. We did 1 full minute of  1. squat presses 2. jump rope 3. v sit with weighted side twist ( where you sit in a v while holding weight on chest, alternating touching elbow to the floor on each side of you....like a side crunch) 4. kettle bell hip thrust 5. mountain climbers. it seemed like about 10-15 seconds in between each exercise..and then we repeated the whole thing. It seems like a life time doing mountain climbers for a full minute..especially the second time. Then we did 8 sets of sit ups as many as you can do for 20 seconds, then 10 second rest. Oh, and the warm up was 5 minutes of alternating pushups (which I did against the wall), squats and walking lunges. So you have any idea how many walking lunges can be done in 5 minutes? My legs were burning before we even started!
Anyway, it was good. We do different workouts every time so I have no idea what to expect tomorrow. I can only say that my legs, and abs are KILLING me this morning.

Courtney....don't give in!  :hug: And I have been checking your blog and haven't seen anything new in a LONG time. Maybe journaling will help?

Bolloxed, I have seen some you tube sites but I think they vary. I would try the Jilian dvd. 30dshred will kick you abs in gear. there is quite a bit of core.


Good morning to everyone. The plan today is to run before work, and stay away from chocolate. (yesterday was a bust...cow's all brought chocolates in). Left over tilapia on a bed of spinach, with some broccoli for lunch, pb apple and berries for snacks.  I am stuck at my current weight...but hope to see a budge in the next few days. (?)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 15, 2012, 08:47:17 AM
I feel like that lady on Romper Room - I see Mouse, Hally, Merigayle, Bolluxd, Courtney, onawhim, debba, seattle...  And I love you all! 

Inexplicably down 2 today despite eating my weight in M&Ms cherry flavor. 

I think I'm kinda in a lull.  I was on a roll during the WLC, and had pretty close to 100% commitment.  The first two weeks of February I also had laser-like focus.  Now, not so much.  I feel rebellious and want to snack.  I sneak.  I sass back at my wii workout instructors.  It's understandable, but I don't like it.

Mouse, whose 30DS is it?  Jillians?  I'm not ready for it now, but I need something for when I'm down to the final 10.

Meri, I think it's a 30 day shred program.  Hope the little one's better soon!
Good morning Mini!
It is the Jillians 30dshred.  and you would be surprised...level one is totally do able...I bet you would surprise yourself. 
I tried the cherry m&m's yesterday...yum-o!
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 15, 2012, 08:49:06 AM
what is 30dh?

I am home with sick kid today, gotta take her to the dr soon :( gotta cancel all my appts today  :panic: i hope i can get her to nap today and then hop on the TM, my fear is the HUGE cake in the fridge :(
Merigayle..can you take the cake to a neighbors house?  I used to do that...so the "neighbor kids could enjoy a piece", but eventually the mom caught on!
 
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Post by: merigayle on February 15, 2012, 09:31:53 AM
i have Jillians Shred! will have to find it :)

DH took 1/2 the cake to work today, will probably bring some to the neighbor's later, my other neighbor is on a diet! LOL.
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 09:41:04 AM
 :luvcoffee:

Morning, everyone. Still no working out for me - I'd contemplated attempting a run, but then it was raining this morning, so I stayed in bed. I still can't do yoga - anything that even comes close to resembling an inversion, like downward dog, makes my sinuses feel like they're going to rip out of my face. :grr: Maybe tomorrow.

Mouse, the HIIT sounds cool, but painful!

Mini, I have to admit, I'm giggling at the image of you sassing the Wii instructors. :) I'd do the same thing, I think. I've been known to tell the yoga guy to shut up and just count to 5 already.

Courtney -  :hug: Hang in there. Can we help?

Plan for today is waffles for breakfast (done), my usual lunch, yogurt for a snack, and chicken, orzo, and veggies for dinner.
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Post by: Bolloxd on February 15, 2012, 10:09:20 AM
Rough morning start....wine is not good for my head.  My hips are sore/bruised from hula hooping!  Both kids were up super early drenched from wet diapers....they wouldn't go back to sleep and since DH has the cold I stayed up and let him sleep in.

Did I mention we got the snare drum from DHs drum kit out  for the kids to play with??  Yeah not a good idea at 5:30am.

Rest day for me.  Food should be good today. Toast w/PB&H....salad and a baked ham for lunch/dinner.

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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 10:16:06 AM
OMG, I can't imagine a snare drum after a night of wine. I'm so sorry, Bolloxd!
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Post by: Run Amok on February 15, 2012, 11:01:18 AM
Hally- how'd the race go? I hate it when you push to hard and end up ouchy for a while after!

Mouse- how frequently is the HIIT? I know it's a short-term thing. I think you'll see a lot of results from it though.

Courtney-  :hug: You know we don't judge, right?

MOS? AS? How's it going? You two have been quiet lately.

I've been stuck. stuck. stuck. for the past couple of weeks. Today is the end of my 8 week program. Based on today's weigh, I am down 10.5 lbs. Based on my lowest weight, from a week ago, I lost 12 lbs. I figure today is as good a day as any to re-commit to the program. The reality is that I let some things sneak into my diet that I'm not really sure how they've been affecting me. So, I'm going to go back to basics and try and get the scale moving again. My mom is in town this weekend and I'm supposed to go out of town next weekend. We also have 5 new horses coming from AC this weekend and work is nuts... so I'm stretched a bit thin ATM and I know it's going to be a challenge not to just do the "easy" thing and eat crap. Oh, also, dh suggested we start going out for sunday breakfast every week.

Anyway- today's plan is 1cup of go lean with 2/3 cup of coconut milk and 4 prunes. Down the hatch. Feeling full and happy. Lunch is a cheese sandwhich and 1 cup of tomato barley soup. Afternoon snack will be 2 cheese sticks. Not sure about dinner but possibly a veggie burger with onions and peppers. That or a veggie wrap.
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 15, 2012, 11:03:23 AM
SUPER WIN!!  One of the operations guys who's up fixing a problem with our floor just complemented me on my weight loss. 
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Post by: Run Amok on February 15, 2012, 11:10:20 AM
 :bow2:
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Post by: seattlegirl on February 15, 2012, 11:12:16 AM
SUPER WIN!!  One of the operations guys who's up fixing a problem with our floor just complemented me on my weight loss. 

Woohooo!!!
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 11:22:03 AM
Mini - :w00t:
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 15, 2012, 11:26:16 AM
Woot!!!!
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Post by: hally on February 15, 2012, 12:07:48 PM
Yeah Mini!!
RA, it was fun and I wasn't DFL :)

I lost 18 pounds in 18 weeks, then the week between Christmas and New Years I put on 3.8. WTF!! Didn't even eat that much or so I thought.
IMO unless you eat 14,000 calories, you can't gain 4 pounds in a week and I certainly did not. But the scale can be a fickle friend.
Anyway, took a month to get it back off...then two of remaining the same. I think I may be down this week. Problem is my home scale is not trustworthy. So weigh in at WW Thursday AM with no food or drink before going.

I am determined to make a lifestyle change that I can live with forever and if that means averaging a half a pound a week I am good with that.
I have a lot of bad habits that I struggle with, mostly they surface when I've had a drink of alcohol.

Ooops, work calls.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 15, 2012, 12:21:57 PM
18lbs in 18 weeks is fantastic!
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Post by: seattlegirl on February 15, 2012, 12:40:24 PM
I am wearing jeans that used to be uncomfortable!   Same size, just stiffer denim than some others.  Still, yay!
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Post by: hally on February 15, 2012, 12:50:57 PM
18lbs in 18 weeks is fantastic!

In the big picture it is. Keeping it off is the big picture.  A pound a week is 52 pounds a year....we are all in such a rush aren't we.
Gotta start somewhere!
And not sure where I need to be, will know when I get there. Thinking another 30 or 40.
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 12:56:21 PM
I would really like to go on a binge at lunch. I'm resisting, but I'm just putting it out there.
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Post by: Bolloxd on February 15, 2012, 12:58:06 PM
Nice work on the weight loss hally, and RA, and Mini !   The complements are what makes it worth it.  And seattlegirl - fitting into jeans that were uncomfortable before is so nice....more wardrobe options for free.  :)

I'm starting to feel human again, especially since the kids naptime is earlier than usual....not sure how this will affect the rest of their day.  I should be doing some of the million things I need to get done.



deb - good for resisting!! 
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Post by: merigayle on February 15, 2012, 01:07:57 PM
great compliment MINI!!!!!

18lbs in 18 weeks? jealous!!!

probably no exercise for me, DD passed out in the car on the way home from the dr, which may mean no nap later to squeeze a work out in and she is being super clingy otherwise.
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 01:09:55 PM
Thanks, Bolloxd - my inherent laziness is helping me here. I'm just too lazy to get off my ass and go buy what's needed for a good binge. Plus, everything tastes funny, so why bother?

I'm just in a mood.  :grr:

Meri, I hope your dd is feeling better soon!
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 15, 2012, 02:37:06 PM
I would really like to go on a binge at lunch. I'm resisting, but I'm just putting it out there.

Keep resisting!    Let your laziness keep you on track!

Hally, it seems like we're on a similar path.  I lost 20 since Thanksgiving, and need to lose another 30.   Well, maybe 25 if I'm fitting into my skinny clothes by then.  We'll see. 
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Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 15, 2012, 02:40:03 PM
For the first time this month, I did not log my food yesterday. I think I stayed kind of on plan, except I drank a bunch of wine. I didn't weigh in today (unusual for me) but I will tomorrow.

Today I had a really tightly scheduled morning and was super tempted to blow off or shorten my workout, but I prevailed and got my run in. So, I'm pleased with that.

The scale is a fickle friend indeed, my numbers have been all over lately. But I'm wearing pants today that I haven't worn since 2001, so there's that. (Truth be told they still give me a little bit of a wedgie.)
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 02:45:33 PM
Keep resisting!    Let your laziness keep you on track!

Hally, it seems like we're on a similar path.  I lost 20 since Thanksgiving, and need to lose another 30.   Well, maybe 25 if I'm fitting into my skinny clothes by then.  We'll see. 

It worked! My unwillingness to move my ass finally came in handy!
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Post by: Courtney on February 15, 2012, 02:50:27 PM
Thanks for the support, y'all :)   :heartbeat:

Debba,  :hug:

Mouse, I do need to get back to journaling.  I actually stepped back at some point yesterday and dug into the "tools" I've learned in therapy.  I got out my colors and coloring books and colored, instead of going on a binge.  That worked for a while, and I had the most amazing sense of calm.  Then after dinner, DH got into the frozen chocolate chip cookies, and I lost all semblence of control, peace, etc.  I went to bed sick to my stomach and feeling like a big fat failure.  Why oh why? 

 >:(

Mini- that is fabulous that someone noticed :)  It's definitely a good reinforcement. 

I taught spin this morning, so my workout is done.  Tomorrow will be my weight routine from Monday (with the trainer) and a short run.  Friday, I need to run since we'll be driving for 8 hours that day.  I hope to get out for a run with my brother on either Saturday or Sunday (or both!), or do some sort of workout while I'm visiting him.  I'm tempted to take my Insanity DVDs and randomly pick one to challenge him to.

Mouse, your class sounds hard!!  But fun, in a weird way.  It sounds like tabata intervals for some of it.  20 seconds work, 10 seconds rest...   I do this 4 Minute Workout like that. 

20 seconds burpees (sometimes also called squat thrusts), 10 seconds rest
20 seconds mountain climbers, 10 seconds rest
20 seconds high knees, 10 seconds rest
20 seconds jumping jacks, 10 seconds rest

Repeat. 
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 02:54:11 PM
I'd have a really hard time, too, if DH were digging into the cookies, Courtney.  :hug: Seriously, today, laziness was the only thing that kept me from going off the deep end. I'm going to have to have DH go get gas for my car, or I'll have to do it tomorrow at lunch and that's just asking for trouble.
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Post by: Courtney on February 15, 2012, 03:16:57 PM
I'd have a really hard time, too, if DH were digging into the cookies, Courtney.  :hug: Seriously, today, laziness was the only thing that kept me from going off the deep end. I'm going to have to have DH go get gas for my car, or I'll have to do it tomorrow at lunch and that's just asking for trouble.

I need to run to walmart after work to get cat food, and I am uneasy already. 
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Post by: merigayle on February 15, 2012, 03:23:38 PM
i only had a taste of cake today, no luck on a nap, therefor no workout today  :-[ tomorrow i hope DD is better and goes to school. i laid in bed for an hour with her trying to get her to sleep, i dozed a few times :D I went to Target and avoided all V day clearance candy :D
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 03:26:40 PM
Oof, I had to go to the grocery store on the way home on Monday and I almost walked out with a basket of junk food. I didn't, but it was really, really close.
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Post by: merigayle on February 15, 2012, 03:34:02 PM
i cannot resist a good sale. all that pretty candy on clearance..... i did however get some clearance sheet pans (in the V day section) and a heart donut pan to make some healthy baked donut recipes i found on line.
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 03:51:33 PM
I'm so glad I don't have the time or energy to bake holiday-themed things. I wouldn't fit in my front door!
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Post by: merigayle on February 15, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
dude, cleaned the kitchen and found a half eaten granola bar and ate the rest. i have no self control, that is why i do better not having anything bad in the house. i have not really eaten much today, so it was not horrible, but still, it is the self control issues that i hate.
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 04:20:56 PM
I'd have done the same thing, meri. And then found more to munch on.
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Post by: Courtney on February 15, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
I really think that self control isn't the issue as much as addressing the reasons you are eating, and coming up with another way to cope with that issue (boredom, sad, anxious, etc).  Eating is apparently my go-to coping mechanism for everything. 

At least that is the theory. 

I ran across this great resort that you can go to where they do cognitive behavioral therapy on this sort of thing, and if I had the time off from work, I'd go.  http://www.fitwoman.com/ (http://www.fitwoman.com/)

For me at least, I feel like this is key.  Being mindful, stopping myself in that natural response (eating), and doing something else, etc. 
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 04:28:29 PM
A lot of the time, it's absolutely that - boredom, anxiety, frustration, anger, whatever. A lot of the time it's habit - going to the gas station? Pick me up a binge while you're there! And a lot of the time it's just, "Oooh, food! Eat!"
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Post by: Courtney on February 15, 2012, 04:33:42 PM
A lot of the time, it's absolutely that - boredom, anxiety, frustration, anger, whatever. A lot of the time it's habit - going to the gas station? Pick me up a binge while you're there! And a lot of the time it's just, "Oooh, food! Eat!"

Yep.

I told my therapist the other day that I thought the girl scouts should change the name of their cookies to Binge In A Box.  :D 
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Post by: Run Amok on February 15, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Courtney, I think you are on to something. I think it's both though. I am not really an emotional eater... but I think I'm very sensitive to blood sugar fluctations.  When I stick to being on plan- self control isn't an issue because I'm eating the right foods... and I'm just not hungry. It's like I either don't need the self control or I have zero. Does that make sense? This is totally one of those things dh doesn't. under. stand. He's like, "if you know candy makes you fat... don't eat candy". Well... yeah... it's just not that easy!
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Post by: Courtney on February 15, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
Courtney, I think you are on to something. I think it's both though. I am not really an emotional eater... but I think I'm very sensitive to blood sugar fluctations.  When I stick to being on plan- self control isn't an issue because I'm eating the right foods... and I'm just not hungry. It's like I either don't need the self control or I have zero. Does that make sense? This is totally one of those things dh doesn't. under. stand. He's like, "if you know candy makes you fat... don't eat candy". Well... yeah... it's just not that easy!

I wish it was that easy!! :D

Habit is a big part of it for me, as well as hunger.  Like, before I go to walmart tonight, I will eat my protein rich snack so that I'm not starving when I get there.  Hopefully.  Because hunger, for me, leads to bags of junk food quickly eaten in the car on the way home.  WHich is a habit as well.  That is something I used to do, a lot. 
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 04:59:16 PM
I'm an emotional eater without realizing it. I don't necessarily realize or connect binges to emotions. The other day, though, I *knew* I was pissed, I knew I was stressed out, and I knew that's what was driving me to swing by the freezer and candy aisles. So I forced myself to stay in line and just be angry and pissed and stressed and it all worked out okay.

I'd still like some ice cream, though.

And OMG, the habit. Good lord. I can eat all the protein-rich snacks I want, but if my habit is to swing into the gas station at lunch and binge? THEN BY GOD I WILL DO IT.

Seriously, I've had to stop carrying a credit card except the one my parents gave me, because I'll just binge out of habit.
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Post by: hally on February 15, 2012, 05:04:38 PM
I wish I knew why I eat like I am never going to be fed again when I have a few drinks. Can't be hunger.

On the scale and the number....
My old scale apparently was about ten pounds off, old fashioned one with a needle. Last time I was happy with my weight (as happy as a women can be anyway) I was actually 10 pounds more then I thought I was. Which is a pretty high number for someone my height. But I have always been a higher weight then my appearance would show. So when I can fit in those clothes again number be damned.
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Post by: merigayle on February 15, 2012, 05:07:17 PM
um i ate it because it was delicious  :confused: i guess bored cause i am not at work and was cleaning the kitchen. I am an emotional eater, but really, i just like yummy things.
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 05:17:56 PM
That would be me, meri. I'd be like, "Oooooh, granola! Yum!" *nom nom nom* without even thinking twice.  :sigh:
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Post by: merigayle on February 15, 2012, 05:25:13 PM
That would be me, meri. I'd be like, "Oooooh, granola! Yum!" *nom nom nom* without even thinking twice.  :sigh:
yeah, it was not like i was sitting around bored and looking for food or depressed and stuffing my face, it was like, hey, it is already open, don't want to throw it in the trash, and the trash can is full anyways........  :argh:
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Post by: debbatx on February 15, 2012, 05:29:15 PM
I do both.
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Post by: merigayle on February 15, 2012, 05:45:38 PM
oh i boredom eat and stress/emotional eat, but this was just, hey it is there eating :D  :-[ :argh:
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Post by: Bolloxd on February 15, 2012, 08:59:51 PM
I'm definitely a stress eater...other emotions don't really bother me food-wise (luckily!).   The running, and medication, has greatly reduced my stress.  My weakness now is the lack of planning my food.  I end up being so busy doing something else and will skip food.  If nothing is planned then I will eat processed sugary stuff every time. 

My knee decided to hurt a lot on our walk this afternoon.  It is probably safer if I skip my run tomorrow.  I'll probably try it to see what happens.

I've got freshly baked bread ready to be munched this evening.  Yum.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 15, 2012, 10:16:53 PM
Feeling pretty pleased with myself for being back on plan today.  :)
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Post by: merigayle on February 16, 2012, 08:29:04 AM
Feeling pretty pleased with myself for being back on plan today.  :)
awesome!

DD is still sick and will be staying home again, so unless i can get her to nap at noon (hahaha) no workout before work for me, she is super duper clingy.
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 16, 2012, 08:40:55 AM
Not happy with scale today, but otherwise satisfied.  Am feeling a bit less rebellious.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 16, 2012, 08:46:48 AM
Feeling pretty pleased with myself for being back on plan today.  :)
good job!
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 16, 2012, 08:51:45 AM
Finishing my coffee and trying to summon the where with all to get out of bed, get dressed, drive to town and go to HIIT. I was so sore yesterday that I could hardly walk, much less do a squat or a situp.  Todays class should be interesting!  And the scale still has not budged....although it hasn't gone up either so I guess that is good.

I did eat chocolate again yesterday....valentines day gave me the taste dammit. I counted it, but still...I hope I can get through work today with out caving in again.

I don't have a lot of time this morning...so I hope everyone has a great day.  Merigayle, I hope the little one takes a nap.  :hug:
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Post by: Run Amok on February 16, 2012, 09:03:25 AM
Mini- I feel exactly the same way!
Mouse- My experience has been that working out is good for sore muscles. Once you are warmed up, you won't even feel it.
Meri- fingers crossed that she gets a good nap in!
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Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 09:30:14 AM
Good morning, everyone. Still not back to 100%, but I'm hoping to get to the gym tonight and back on track with my shuffling next week. My ears finally popped yesterday.  :o

The scale is pretty steady from where it was last Saturday (my WW weigh-in day), so I'm pretty pleased. I had a big loss last week, so wasn't really expecting much this week - in this case, steady is good.

Mouse, good luck with the HIIT! Meri, good luck with getting the kiddo to nap. RA, glad you're back on plan and pleased with it! Mini, a little rebellion is good for the soul now and then, but I'm glad you're feeling otherwise satisfied. I've really had to look at other ways to measure success - the scale is just too fickle.
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Post by: hally on February 16, 2012, 10:18:16 AM
Glad you can hear again Deb!

Mouse, chocolate happens. One of my favorite things from WW meeting is if you break an egg you don't throw the whole carton out, trip on a stair you don't throw yourself down the whole flight....just because you go off plan a little is no excuse to give up or go nuts at the next meal.
She has a lot of great little sayings, what you eat in private shows up in public. And you've come to far to take orders from a piece of chocolate.

I hate my scale at home but it's a tool, as inaccurate as it is. I just bought it not that long ago from Amazon, and when I complained about it being inaccurate the owner of the company sent me another one. So now I have two of them and neither one says the same thing. So I basically go by my weigh in at WW.
I am down 1.6 today. Another .4 to 20 pounds! :w00t:

Knees are a lot better. I ran slowly this morning so as not to annoy them. I could do ellptical but I'd so much rather be outside and it was a wind free morning and I caught a gorgeous sunrise.
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Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 10:20:49 AM
Good job, hally! I still track WW points, but I do the online program. I've done the meetings to death, and there's just not much more they can tell me that I don't already know. I just have to keep counting and I'll get there eventually.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 16, 2012, 10:38:11 AM
I'm out of milk at work so I made toast (2 slices of light wheat bread) with 2 tsp of pb, 2tsp of jam, and 4 prunes. I have 1 cup of broccoli soup and a cheese sandwhich for lunch. A small orange and 8 almonds for snack later. Not sure what dinner will be yet. Maybe another veggie burger or a wrap. A friend I haven't seen in forever wants to have a glass of wine with me later. I told her I'd go. I'm not sure about the wine though.  :-\

One of my favorite things from WW meeting is if you break an egg you don't throw the whole carton out, trip on a stair you don't throw yourself down the whole flight....just because you go off plan a little is no excuse to give up or go nuts at the next meal.
She has a lot of great little sayings, what you eat in private shows up in public. And you've come to far to take orders from a piece of chocolate.

Good stuff here. Someone (I can never remember who it was) posted something one time that really stuck with me... I'm paraphrasing... a diet isn't one decision- it's a thousand decisions all day long. It's the decision not to eat the chocolate. It's the *same* decision not to eat the chocolate 10 minutes later, and 10 minutes after that, and to have an apple instead. Sometimes it helps me to think about it in that way.
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Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 10:42:02 AM
Yes, breaking it down decision by decision really helps, too. It's also, for me at least, really important to remember to not throw the baby out with the bathwater, or to not throw myself down the stairs or whatever. I tend to be very all or nothing, and one slip-up is likely to throw me over the edge and into a binge-eating hell that it can take weeks to get out of.

I *am* going to have to get gas for my car today at lunch. No getting around that one right now.  :nails:
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Post by: Run Amok on February 16, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
I tend to be very all or nothing

I am this way too. I do ok as long as I have a plan. I can follow the plan and even exceed my plan and then feel good about that. But, should I eat something I didn't plan to eat, that is when things slide sideways for me.

Good luck at the gas station. You can do it! You are building a new habit. Do you have a costco near you at all? Their gas station isn't hooked to a convenience store so maybe less temptation?
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Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 11:00:43 AM
Unfortunately, the nearest Costco is a haul from work, so I can't do that - but it's a good idea for next time! I just need to remember to sit at the car and wait and not go in to the store part of things at all. I should have had DH fill up the car last night, but I forgot. Oh well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 16, 2012, 11:31:53 AM
got the kid to nap (super early) but i am exhausted and can barely move. I do not think i can workout today. watching biggest loser and dreaming of my salad for lunch  :eyeroll: :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 16, 2012, 11:45:56 AM
I go to the meetings more for support then the meeting itself. Just like this group, to know that there are other people facing the same issues helps me. Although it's super annoying when someone comes in losing 3 and 4 pounds a week and they don't even exercise. But then I am not them, and I have to keep telling myself that. That is even helpful.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 11:52:06 AM
I got a lot out of the meetings for a long time, so I get it. But the ones around here got really repetitive, and I can only listen to the recipe for pumpkin fluff muffins or whatever so many times before I want to poke my eyes out. And now that I have a kid, my schedule totally changed - the meetings convenient to my house aren't at good times, and the ones that are at good times are across town, so...

Online it is!

This thread really helps, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 12:09:49 PM
OMG, my left ear is still really clogged. I didn't realize how bad it was until I tried to clear it a minute ago. It won't budge :o Sorry, this has nothing to do with Perpetually Healthy Eating and/or Fitness, but just thought I'd throw it out there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 16, 2012, 12:16:26 PM
I go with a couple of women from work at lunchtime. The weigh in I do on my way in on Thursdays, I don't eat or drink anything before I go which sucks because I've already either run or done the elliptical and not only am I thirsty but I need some COFFEE! But I felt like I was too damn hungry if I waited till the meeting at 1 PM because I wouldn't eat and drink enough beforehand. And my scale is wonky. I think if I could leave it in one place I would trust it more, but I don't have room and have to move it under the sink after I use it.

I was at a happy weight maybe 6 years ago, and then I got sick of constantly watching and still putting weight on. And let myself gain 40 or 50 pounds. :yikes:
I've finally come to terms with the fact that as we age we just can't eat the way we used to, and we aren't going to lose the way we used to either. It sucks facing reality.

It's good to have this board though, mostly because I know most if not all of us are very active people. Folks always say "but you do 40-50 mile rides every weekend how can you not lose" I think this group can understand how you can not lose!!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 16, 2012, 12:25:54 PM
dude. it is so much easier to gain than lose :D

My old roommate that i did WW with wore the same outfit every time, and it was shorts and a tank, even in the dead of winter in MA :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 16, 2012, 12:31:47 PM
I pretty much wear the same thing, although I did change it from summer to winter.
I wear tights and panties under a skirt with a lightweight long sleeved top and take the skirt off to weigh in.
If I could strip to bra and panties I would! Those clothes weigh a pound at least!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 16, 2012, 12:32:42 PM
dude. it is so much easier to gain than lose :D

ain't that the truth!

I've been living a life of complete sloth lately. I just can't seem to get my motivation back to actually work out. Plus, eating is at least 99% of the losing part for me. But... since I can't do any of my normal activities... I've been pouting about being active. The jury is still out on whether I will continue to pout until june, or decide to actually get off my arse and do something at some point.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 01:00:03 PM
I have to get back to working out on Sunday. Have. To.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: orzabellle on February 16, 2012, 01:04:20 PM
Whoops - should have posted this here instead of the boring Dukan thread:

My DELICIOUS lunch:

a WHOLE bunch of broccolini, sauteed and slightly charred on the florets, a handful of shredded skim mozzarella on top of the broccolini, and two fried eggs on top of that. Hot DAMN that's good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 16, 2012, 01:05:22 PM
a WHOLE bunch of broccolini, sauteed and slightly charred on the florets, a handful of shredded skim mozzarella on top of the broccolini, and two fried eggs on top of that. Hot DAMN that's good.

I've done something like this a couple of times too- amazing! I like rapini because it has some leaves in there and I love it with carmalized onions & garlic. Yum. Yum!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: orzabellle on February 16, 2012, 01:07:43 PM
I've done something like this a couple of times too- amazing! I like rapini because it has some leaves in there and I love it with carmalized onions & garlic. Yum. Yum!

I don't know how to cook it in a way that gets the bitter out of it. Secrets, please!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 16, 2012, 01:13:54 PM
I don't find it very bitter, tbh. I like the offset of slightly bitter to the sweet onions. I usually just chop it into bite size pieces and toss the tougher stalks (I use about 1/3 of the stalk) in with the onions and garlic- deglaze a bit with water or wine, toss in the leaves and the tops and sautee until they are tender and the leaves are wilty. I like to take rapini a bit beyond aldente because I like the texture of the leaves cooked a little more though. I don't think that helps the bitter though.  :-\
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 02:01:20 PM
Made it. Car has gas. I have nothin'. Whew.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 16, 2012, 02:17:32 PM
Phew! Good job!
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Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 02:19:31 PM
Thanks. I'm embarrassingly pleased.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 16, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
Good job deb!
Meri it is exhausting having a sick kid.  Hope she feels better and you enjoy the quiet.
hally the only way to truly get your weight is a soon as you wake up, have a pee, and are nude.  I'd be so frustrated with weighing in at other places.  I think my scale need calibrating or something too.


I'm craving chocolate now.  I may have to give in a little.  I did have a good breakfast of oatmeal...and was surprised when the kids ate most of theirs!  We went out for a long walk/run this morning before the rain started.

I may have overdone it on the bread last night.  It was really tasty but I went to bed with that stuffed feeling.  blah.  Food is sorted for today, not super healthy but at least it is planned.  I'm skipping my run again today because of sharp knee pain yesterday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 16, 2012, 02:24:22 PM
Thanks. I'm embarrassingly pleased.

*high five*

Yesterday was an on-track day.  I'm not sure how or why.  I'm using myfitnesspal to track and I still had calories left at the end of the day.  It helped that I had spin.  I have a breakfast burrito for lunch, but it doesn't sound good so I'm going to subway.  Which is in a convenience store, so I'll see if I can pull a Debba and get out of there without a bag-o-binge.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 02:42:41 PM
 :-[

Pulling a Debba usually means leaving WITH a Bag O' Binge, so I like the idea of changing the meaning! Good luck - if I can do it, you can!

I still want something to munch on - I think it's the habit at this point that's bugging me. I'm at a very boring task in my day, and I've gotten used to being able to munch on junk food while I do it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 16, 2012, 02:46:14 PM
:-[

Pulling a Debba usually means leaving WITH a Bag O' Binge, so I like the idea of changing the meaning! Good luck - if I can do it, you can!

I still want something to munch on - I think it's the habit at this point that's bugging me. I'm at a very boring task in my day, and I've gotten used to being able to munch on junk food while I do it.

:)  I did make it back without anything other than my sammich & diet dr. pepper.  As a side note, I could happily eat Subway every day. 

Munching and junk food are powerful when you have a boring task or a long afternoon stretching in front of you!  Be strong, sister. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 02:48:42 PM
Wooohooo! *high five*

I should be okay for the rest of the day. I have some yogurt for my break, and I don't *think* I have enough change for the vending machine. I don't feel like dumping my purse to find out. :)

Still trying to decide about the gym tonight. Part of me thinks I should push it and go, and part of me is wary of coughing fits that should count as aerobic exercise.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 16, 2012, 03:31:01 PM
The muching thing has been the hardest part of the eating plan I'm doing. I'm a muncher (hee!) too. I like crackers and chips and what not. I have found that having a bowl of segmented grapefruit has been helping- I can grab a couple of pieces and that's ok. Or, I like those mini peppers. No, it's not the same. But- after a while I find myself mentally "reaching" for those things instead. The hard one for me is still the 1-3pm "I want something sweet" thing though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 16, 2012, 03:57:17 PM
Jesus.  I just finished my clementine snack, and had some DFW.  I started thinking about the way my weight's bounced up and down the same two pounds for the last week or so.

This is what went through my head:

When I get to the grocery store tomorrow, if they have those fried fish sandwiches, I'm getting one!  Then I'm going to the bakery and getting some treats.  FUCKIT I'M EATING!!!

Sweet mother of chocolate.  I am such an addict.  My first and only thoughts were of fat, salt and sugar. 

RA, I heard a good tip for munching.  If you are right handed, keep whatever you're snacking on to your left.  You'll be less likely to think of it or reach for it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 16, 2012, 04:31:22 PM
Mini, I have the same kind of thoughts. "Oh, I've been SO GOOD, I can buy a pack of Skittles/Cheeseburger/Doritos/Fries/Soda/Reese's. One pack is fine. One pack won't kill me or set me back *too* far, right? If I do XYZ, I've *earned* my treat."

Yeah.

I'm pretty sure I'll never be able to eat junk food again except for under extremely controlled circumstances. It's just that bad.

And that trick about the munching is interesting - I'll have to try it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 16, 2012, 05:50:53 PM
great job, Debba!

I got the wee one to nap, but she woke right up and came downstairs and passed out on my lap, so definitely no work out for me. eating has been ok today, though i am sure i will have a few bites of cake before bed. For lunch i had some sauteed shitakes and baby bok choy and used soy sauce and a teeny bit of peanut butter, it was delicious!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 17, 2012, 10:58:14 AM
 :incazzato: Another day without progress. I think I'm going to have to go back to tracking calories. It's like I'm getting up in the middle of the night and stuffing myself with ice cream, without knowing it, or something. I'm following the same effing plan that worked perfectly for 7 weeks and now I can't seem to lose another lb to save my life.

*wah*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 17, 2012, 11:14:29 AM
{{RA}}  There must be something in the air.  I am obsessed with temptation.  I cannot stop thinking about salt, sugar, fat.  I am not satisfied by fruit, veggies, or cheese.  I eat a date, which usually satisfies my sweet tooth, and I just keep thinking about candy, fried foods, and pizza.  And despite keeping within my planned calorie range and keeping up with my exercise, I keep bouncing up and down and not making any real progress.

My theory is my body and mind are resisting change, and my addictions are kicking in.  I'm re-reading The End of Overeating to try to get more of a perspective on dealing with the addictive behavior. 

It's a huge struggle, just to avoid binging.  The worst part is despite my doing ok overall, the struggle still makes me feel like a failure.  Then those emotions feed the addiction.  ARG!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 17, 2012, 11:25:39 AM
{{{{Minnie and RA}}}

So if you want to laugh, I will tell you what I did last night. This is my binge, I know I am weird.
Thursday is weigh in day so I allow myself a martini that night, it's the end of the week of tracking. And invariably I overeat.
What did I eat?
Well after dinner....feeling nice and full. Went to visit my neighbor while my clothes were in the dryer.
Back in my apartment,  decide to eat the 3 point peanut trailmix bar thingie.
Then I decided I needed a couple of slices of the TJ's healthy ham in the fridge.
hmmmm........now I need some more protein. I open the pack of baked tofu from TJ's and eat one block. But somehow, that isn't enough and I go back for another block.  11 points added to my day. I am probably the only person you know who binges on stuff that is basically healthy!   :-\
Told ya....weird!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 17, 2012, 11:44:52 AM
I know the feeling! 

I seem to be stuck at this "floor" I struggle with. I'm back to not struggling with cravings and I've been on plan. Monday night I did eat a cupcake and taste some of the frosting- but I actually did do the calories for that recipe and I should have still been well within calories for the day, even with the cupcake (because I didn't eat dinner). Even if I really did go nuts over last weekend- whatever damage I did should gone this week.

Of course, if I count calories and I'm still within 1200, like I think I am, I'm going to be even more annoyed!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 17, 2012, 11:50:57 AM
When you are small and you are close to goal weight it is so so tough to move the scale.   :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 17, 2012, 11:55:39 AM
I'm not near my goal though. I still have about 15lbs to lose.  :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 17, 2012, 12:52:11 PM
RA:1200 is really low.
Maybe try 1500 for a few days.

Just saw the part about small. But still......I don't think you are going to gain on 1500 and it may shake it up
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Post by: onawhim on February 17, 2012, 12:54:51 PM
I'm not near my goal though. I still have about 15lbs to lose.  :'(

My body argues with me about my goal weight as well  >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 17, 2012, 02:36:09 PM
OK, I just chuckled about the cravings.... not more than an hour ago I told DH that I needed him to go get me some Starbursts at the store.  He ignored me but I still have the craving.

The plan was for me to run today.  The kids wore me out this morning while DH was out to work.  I ended up taking a nap instead of the other things I wanted to get done and I still feel worn out.  Maybe my body is still catching up on rest from that cold.  I will do my push ups though.

As an aside, our 12 year anniversary is coming up in March and I convinced DH that our gift should be a KitchenAid mixer - in Willow Blue.  I am so excited and keep thinking of what I can make with it and have cleared out a spot on the kitchen counter for it to sit.  I fear it will not help in my weight maintenance efforts.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 17, 2012, 02:54:02 PM
When you are small and you are close to goal weight it is so so tough to move the scale.   :hug:

Heh. 

Oh, and I was all set to be bad and have some crackers for my snack.  DH took the crackers with him to work.  Foiled!  I had a clementine.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 17, 2012, 03:38:21 PM
I'm not near my goal though. I still have about 15lbs to lose.  :'(

I don't want to tell you what to do or anything, but are you sure your goal weight is reasonable?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 17, 2012, 04:13:12 PM
I, too, am at a plateau and caved into my cravings today.
Lunch is ham sandwich and doritos.
I didn't bother running today. I am on a break for a day!

Sometimes you have to say "no more".
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 17, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
It puts me right in the middle of the normal bmi range and a clothing size 2-4... so, I don't really feel like it should be all that much of a stretch. Right now I am just barely within the normal bmi range.


In other news, I burned the crap out of my mouth with not soup at lunch.  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 17, 2012, 04:22:09 PM
i feel like i am getting sick, no surprise as DD slept face to face with me for four days coughing in my face all night long  :-\ eating has just been meh all week and no exercise. next week is a new week and i feel confident in getting back on track with a long run on Sunday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 17, 2012, 05:55:40 PM
Heh. 


I meant short.  I just like to complain because I am too   :-[  I am sure the weight gets more stubborn the closer you get to goal for everyone though.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 17, 2012, 07:05:15 PM
I meant short.  I just like to complain because I am too   :-[  I am sure the weight gets more stubborn the closer you get to goal for everyone though.   

With me it's more like a lifetime of yoyo dieting has fucked with my metabolism.  Each time I gain weight, it's harder to get down to where I should be. 

I've been re-reading End of Overeating, and it's clear that my indulgence in candy over the last week has set off my reward triggers and is making me crave more. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 17, 2012, 07:15:10 PM
My issue is stress. I applied for Badwater and the application period ended Wednesday and decisions are next week. I am like, if i get in, gung ho on the weight loss/exercise, if i don't, holy heck, not sure what will happen, though i am considering using my $ towards Crossfit or something instead of Badwater. And then the stress of the webguy (see Yammering) and having to fire him in the near future  :!:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 18, 2012, 07:18:36 AM
men are so different than women when it comes to weight loss that i think it may be hard for them to wrap their heads around how difficult it can be for some of us. DH has commented that he cannot believe, with what i eat, that i do not lose weight. I totally agree. If he ate what i ate, he would be a skeleton.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 18, 2012, 12:06:52 PM
I met a friend for a glass of wine last night. Turned into a 4-5 hour convo and 3 glasses of wine on an empty stomach. I had a big bowl of fiber one when I got home. I figured it might soak up some of the booze. New number on the scale this am. About to go see my mom, bro and fam. Slightly hangover. Glad it is only slight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 18, 2012, 12:17:19 PM
I've had a bad week.  I bought and ate tons of crap.  Tons.   I am trying to figure out why - I've been feeling a little off, anxious, maybe?   I'm up a couple of pounds, of course.

I threw the rest of the junk out this morning, though.  This is a first for me.  It's been ingrained in me not to waste something, and I threw perfectly good "food" in the trash.  But I felt really powerful when I did so.  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 18, 2012, 03:18:51 PM
8 mile hike today, 1500 calorie deficit and I'm mentally preparing myself for number to be up tomorrow. 

However, I'm feeling like the urge to binge ebbing away.   I felt great hiking today.  My pants were loose.  I didn't get exhausted or out pf breath.


Good luck with Badwater application, Meri!

Bonita, I can maintain 1000 calorie deficit and not lose weight.  My body fights it every step of the way. 
Yay to throwing out junk!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 18, 2012, 03:45:03 PM
Mini that sounds like a nice hike...very satisfying!


Today has been a good one.  Took the twins to story time since we were finally all over the cold.  They enjoyed themselves.  During their nap I got a 2.5 mile run in (still careful because of knee pain), did my push-ups and abs routine.  Feeling really good.

I'm currently drinking some freshly squeezed by me OJ.  Super tasty.

I've been almost giddy the last few days waiting for my Kitchenaid mixer to turn up.  Also, because of the cast iron skillet thread and my need for new pots/pans, I've ordered 2 of them to play with.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 18, 2012, 05:30:11 PM
Mini-- your body sounds a lot like mine  :bat:

ooooh a new mixer! fun!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 19, 2012, 07:40:26 AM
8 mile hike today, 1500 calorie deficit


How did you figure this out? It does not sound right to me. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 19, 2012, 08:16:01 AM
How did you figure this out? It does not sound right to me. 

I burned over 3,000 calories yesterday (about 1,000 while hiking 5 hours), and ate about 1500.  I use a bodybugg to help get a good grasp on calorie burn.  It's not completely accurate, but probably within 10% margin of error. 

Didn't see any movement on the scale this morning, so I guess that's better than a gain.  Off on a more modest 4-5 mile hike this morning, then out to dinner at our favorite BBQ (almost posted BBW!) joint.  Probably will not break even on calories today. 

The addictive feelings I was struggling last week are slowing fading, mainly because all the cherry M&Ms are gone.  I am now pondering why I feel entitled to binge.  It's beyond desire- I feel I deserve it.  I think part of it comes from advertising (you deserve a break today!), and part from the relationship between food and celebration - food and the reward centers of our brain.  We associate food with happiness - holidays, birthdays, anniversaries, getting a raise, getting an award - special days that are related to special foods.  But there are so many special days!   Thanksgiving, Christmas, the Super Bowl, Valentines Day, birthdays, St. Patricks Day, Easter, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Halloween.  More that one per month.  And that's not counting days we decide to treat ourselves for other reasons - sometimes just surviving a tough week. 

And there's the lingering feeling of "I've been good!  I ate right and exercised!  I get a cookie, right?"  I've been working on non-food rewards, but the feeling that I am cheated if I don't get a food reward remains.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 19, 2012, 09:36:47 AM
I have been ok to maintain I have not been eating the way I want.  Weekend away and did not involve volumes of food but I did have french fries and I did have a gourmet cupcake..

I know the triggers for me.. We were arguing over directions and I actually felt this physical sensation coming over my body, like I NEEDED to eat chips, or crackers or cookies or bread.  I was in the car of course, so I didn't, but I can only describe it as a feeling that came over my entire body, and stomace and I needed this.  Stress related.  I can only imagine it must be what an alcoholic feels like when reaching for the booze.  If I am stressed at work, the last thing I think about is coming home and having a glass of wine.. I don't even keep wine in the house.  But tearing into the chips or crackers.. that's another thing. Luckily, with just me here, I can get away without buying that stuff.. But I still gorge on the good stuff when this feeling hits.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 19, 2012, 10:19:51 AM
dare i ask what cherry M&Ms are?  :sneaking:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 19, 2012, 11:00:58 AM
Seattle, I am glad you threw the food away.  Removing the temptation is really helpful.  What are you anxious about? Are you avoiding something you don't want to deal with or think about by "changing the subject"? (my M.O is to eat so I can beat myself up rather than deal with whatever is really bugging me.  It worked great until my therapist suggested it was my M.O....now that I see it is true it doesn't work quite as well....I immediately think...hmmm...what is it that is driving this?) Anyway...don't beat yourself up too much. :hug: :hug:

RA....I am thinking of you this weekend. Hang in there.

Merigayle, how long until you know about Badwater? How is the kidlet feeling, and did you catch it?  I am the same as far as how few calories I can consume if I want to lose. It is a fine balancing act for sure. I have to stay in the 1200 -1400 range, and I have to exercise.

MIni....your hikes sound awesome yet grueling!  How do you like the body bug?? Is it easy to program?


Bolloxed..I love that feeling good...feeling strong feeling.  Good for you. It is awesome.

Sorry I was MIA yesterday. I was busy! I worked on my very first quilt ever, and walked the dogs with DH...napped and viola! The day was done.  I ate better yesterday....got back on the wagon. Even though my little "recess" from eating only planned foods wasn't that bad I did not want it to become habit....
My trip is 4 weeks away now! I am hoping to eek another pound or three by then....nothing to crazy...but I will have to be on it.

I am step class in an hour..that should be fun. OH, and HIIT on thursday last week (class #2) was great.  Different moves entirely, all core - centric. She had me do tricep presses rather than pushups, we did box jumps, russian twists and burpees in addition to side plank twists. Oh...only one other person showed up besides me.  We don't know if they will be back on Tuesday or not. 

Have a good day everyone.   :lambie: :doglick: :hiker: :runner:



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 19, 2012, 11:50:58 AM
Thanks, Mouse.  I'm not really sure what's driving the anxiety, although it might have something to do with the fact that I've been thinking about moving in with the BF a lot lately.  That won't happen till August, but maybe that's triggering stuff for me.  Even though I'm excited about it!

Down 3.4 lbs from yesterday!  WTF?  Probably hormonal, actually.  I'll take it.

We're going out for Valentine's dinner tonight, and I'm having a beer.  I'm thinking salad with salmon or grilled chicken will be my entree.  Mmm... beer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 19, 2012, 12:15:28 PM
I burned over 3,000 calories yesterday (about 1,000 while hiking 5 hours), and ate about 1500.  I use a bodybugg to help get a good grasp on calorie burn.  It's not completely accurate, but probably within 10% margin of error. 

I do not have one of those, but figure a typical day burns 1600 calories for me (the generic average for women), without exercise, and I count 100 calories per mile hiked or run, as a guideline, so I would have calculated that day as burning 2,400 calories.  Even with a 10% margin of error, I would still be under 3,000.  Hence my question.  But I am not questioning technology.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 19, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
Great stuff here today! It is interesting to explore what is behind the eating.

Mini- the celebrations has been a key thing for me. Between the "I deserve it" and "a little of this won't hurt" and "aww fuckit, I'll do better tomorrow" I was eating indulgent meals as much as 2-3 meals a day 3-5 days a week.

Yesterday was an "aw fuck it" day. I knew I wasn't going to have much control over what I was eating or when, so decided to just go with the flow. I had a big smoothie for breakfast that was 7oz of 2% fage, 1/4 cup of oat bran, 1 Tbs spirulina, 1 banana, a cup of water, a handful each of blueberries & raspberries and 4 big handfuls of spinach. This comes in at about 330 calories so is about breakfast and morning snack- it kept me full until lunch.

Lunch we went to a pub and I got the hummus plate. I did eat all of the pita but left a lot of hummus, cheese, and olives on my plate. It was a least a cup of hummus though- huge! Oh and a big porter.

Dinner my brother made spaghetti and I had two slices of bread, probably 1.5 cups of spaghetti and plenty of cheese. My brother did a little beer tasting before dinner out of his special stash- so that was fun.

I've decided to make tacos tonight.
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 19, 2012, 01:13:23 PM
dare i ask what cherry M&Ms are?  :sneaking:

No, really you don't.  They're special for v-day. 

Ice Cream, I burn 1500 if I'm sick in bed. Normal day but no exercise about 1800.  With my regular exercise regime, 2300-2500.  A big hike or bike ride,  3000.
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 19, 2012, 01:19:50 PM
Quote from: Mouse

MIni....your hikes sound awesome yet grueling!  How do you like the body bug?? Is it easy to program?



No programming at all.  Just strap on you arm at all times except swimming or bathing and upload once a day.  Complete no-brainer.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 19, 2012, 01:39:08 PM
RA if anybody "deserves" a fuckit day, it's you. :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 19, 2012, 01:50:48 PM
Mouse-- i find out Wed or Thursday  :panic: I am afraid if i do not get in (v high likelihood) i will have a mega binge. But preparing myself and also confident about getting back on the wagon Monday, not that i have been off, per se, but that i have not been 100% and have been sneaking little snacks here and there and ate some of the V Day cake.

I have to eat around 1000-1200 cals/day to lose weight, and that is with exercise. To maintain my weight, I have to keep it closer to 1400-1500 cals/day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 19, 2012, 06:16:16 PM
I am quite jealous of Mouse's class.  It sounds painfully fun.

All of you calorie counters are so dedicated.  I really could not handle all of that extra info taking up brain space.

So the twins are rebelling today and skipped nap time entirely.  I am exhausted.  Their nap is my recharge time and DH has been no help at all..unless 6 hours of video games count as help. Grrr.  At least they should go to bed early.

I will not even mention food.  Blah.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 19, 2012, 06:34:26 PM
DD laid in her bed for TWO HOURS and did not sleep a wink. She is passed out on the couch right now and i cannot wake her, i have tried :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 20, 2012, 09:40:22 AM
Ugh, Reid's had days like that where he randomly doesn't nap. Sucks. Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. And I can't put him to bed too early, because then it screws up the next day, too. My sympathies, Bolloxd and Meri.

Food yesterday was an indulgence, but a yummy one - we had lunch at one of my favorite burger places. I haven't wiped out all my points for the week, and the scale didn't move too far in the wrong direction, so I'm good with it.

Now, to just get up tomorrow and run...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 20, 2012, 09:47:53 AM
Found a good BBQ strategy:  DH orders ribs, I order collard greens.  I have one of his ribs (how biblical!) and eat the collards.  Both of us go home full and happy, with leftovers.  I probably shouldn't have indulged in hush puppies, but I only ate 3.  Maintained the same weight all weekend, still 1 pound from major goal. 


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 20, 2012, 10:14:51 AM
That's a good strategy, Mini! DH, bless his heart, offered to split a burger with me yesterday. I told him hell no. I appreciated the thought, but the one greasy delicious burger I'm going to have this month is MINE, ALL MINE.

Still, he was sweet to offer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 20, 2012, 10:42:09 AM
MIni...good planning on eating out. I wish I could say I was as smart. I ate off plan again yesterday. I had a thin crust sicilian pizza (the whole thing) for lunch, and then last night I had a homemade biscuit and a chocolate chip cookie.  The pizza was the "bad idea".  :)  The worst thing about the plizza was al the sodium!! :yikes:


Deb..that was sweet of him, I would have done the same. (oh wait...I did...yesterday!) It sounds like you are feeling better..has the crud finally cleared up in your sinuses?  Go run!

Bolloxed..I am really glad I signed up for the class. If I quit sabotaging myself I think it will really show results. Next time, tell DH it is time for him to take over.  6 hours?!

I hope that RA had a good Sunday. I saw some cool trapeze photos on FB...so I am eager to hear about that. Merigayle..I sure hope DD feels better and you can get your routine back. Seattle girl how was your Sunday?

I am planning a run this morning with the DH and dogs. Dewey is laying on the bed with me right now and is awfully snuggly so getting out of bed will hard. Then I am heading to Joann's fabric to pick up a few things, the boys see their vet (Hank gets his adequan shot (for arthritis) and Dewey a blood draw for his dental cleaning on Friday.) I am going to focus on light meals today, and no cheating.  Have a good day!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 20, 2012, 10:53:44 AM
Mouse, the crud is mostly gone. There's still a bit of congestion and some sinus pain/pressure, but I think that's allergies at this point, as opposed to leftover infection. Makes my teeth feel like they're rattling, though.  :o

I slept like crap last night, which is why I didn't get up this morning. Tomorrow is another day!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 20, 2012, 10:54:16 AM
Sunday was a funny day food wise... I just wasn't hungry after two big meals sat so dinner was my only meal of the day. I ended up making a taco/burrito bar for dinner. Everyone else skipped lunch so everything got devoured. Not hungry this am. Will have breakfast later, if I am. Lunch & snacks pac
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 20, 2012, 10:55:26 AM
Packed and ready to go. Lots of taco lentils left so might make a taco wrap for dinner.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 20, 2012, 10:59:54 AM
Hmmm, was going to have my usual for lunch, but DH just emailed and suggested we meet at a Thai place near here. That sounds way better than a PB&J.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 20, 2012, 12:22:27 PM
mmmm lentil tacos and thai food......

DD is feeling better, me, not so much  :-* :argh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 20, 2012, 12:44:31 PM
Hmmm, was going to have my usual for lunch, but DH just emailed and suggested we meet at a Thai place near here. That sounds way better than a PB&J.

I've had pretty good success in thai restaurants if I skip my "usual" and go for something that is heavy on the veggies, in a light sauce, and skip the rice & noodles.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 20, 2012, 02:43:39 PM
I got something that was chicken, veggies, and brown rice in a spicy red sauce. Pad Plick Khing. Super yummy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 20, 2012, 02:48:19 PM
Sounds good!

It's lunch time and I'm still not hungry. meh.

Thanks for all of the good thoughts this weekend- I needed them!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 20, 2012, 03:05:39 PM
It was delicious, and helped clear out my sinuses a little, too!

Sounds like the weekend was interesting - glad you survived it. The taco bar sounds like it was a winner!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 20, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
Taco lentils sound good. Do you just spice them you would meat taco filling? 
Thai sounds good too. 

I had steel cut oats for breakfast with a little butter and a splash of vanilla soy milk. And a banana for my lunch. I think we are having shrimp tacos for dinner. 
My run was very good....felt strong.
Hank and Dewey's appt went well...I sure like their vet.

I am going to go sit in the hot tub now.   :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 20, 2012, 04:43:41 PM
Bah, I keep forgetting to try steel-cut oats in the baby crock pot. Thanks for reminding me, Mouse!

Should be garlic-lime chicken for dinner, with orzo and steamed veggies.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 20, 2012, 04:52:01 PM
Taco lentils sound good. Do you just spice them you would meat taco filling?

Basically. You cook them in the taco seasoning. I use this recipe: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Spiced-Lentil-Tacos-351390 (http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Spiced-Lentil-Tacos-351390) I do like the chili in adobo mixed with the sour cream they suggest too.
 
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I had steel cut oats for breakfast

Do you do them ahead?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 20, 2012, 08:51:56 PM
Oooooh, that lentil taco recipe sounds great!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 20, 2012, 10:51:59 PM
Well my eating today was rather poor.  3 slices of bread, cupcakes & soup.  Oh, and some cereal just now.  The kids were all over the place today and were fighting nap time again.  Rachel just does not want to be left alone...she's been very clingy.  Same thing at bedtime too.  David is congested and coughing so he's not sleeping well either.  Therefore, short nap time meant I did my 4 miles run tonight.

So, yeah, the mixer turned up.   :heartbeat:  I whipped up some cupcakes & frosting....not healthy at all.  At one point, while David was up from his nap early, I noticed he'd gotten quite.  Turns out he'd grabbed the spatula that I used to frost the cupcakes and was licking it.  When he noticed I caught him he gave a big smile and yelled CHOCOLATE!  Later Rachel found her own 'chocolate' in her diaper and pulled it out.   :nono:   


I have a massage tomorrow and I'll be so glad to get out of the house by myself.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 20, 2012, 11:59:54 PM
 :o Fun with twin tots, huh?

I picked up DD from camp and decided to take her shopping. Got very hungry in the process. We shared a froyo as a snack. I had a few bites- but made dd eat most of it. Then I came home and made a taco lentil wrap.

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Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 21, 2012, 08:29:00 AM
Not quite warm enough for me to be tempted by ice cream/froyo, but that looks good.  My DH eats ice cream year-round, but I don't want it when the temps are under 70.

Yesterday I had no energy.  I felt cranky and blah all day.  I felt like I had a fever, but I didn't.  I checked several times because I was convinced I must have a temperature.

I kept thinking if I ate a little something, I'd feel better.  It makes sense.  Low energy -> fuel up ->more energy.  Nope.  I tried a few dates, then some bread and cheese, then more dates and a few nuts.  Still felt blah, but also felt guilty about eating more than I planned.  Skipped my zumba workout, tried hard not to feel guilty about that. 

I feel much better this morning, so I guess I just needed a day off from everything.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 21, 2012, 09:30:02 AM
Hmph. One of those mornings.

Gym tonight, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 21, 2012, 10:55:39 AM
I went out Saturday night and drank a bunch of beers. And I finally ate the delicious cheeseburger I've been jonesing for for WEEKS. Sunday I loafed big time and ate the rest of my delicious cheeseburger plus a lot of other stuff. And Monday I went out with friends for more beers!

Fun weekend but not not my best effort on the healthy eating front. I did decent length runs on both Saturday and Monday, so I have that in my favor. But, back on track today.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 21, 2012, 11:45:12 AM
My day plan was shot first rattle out of the box. I spent my morning canceling my credi card for fraudulent charges and dealing with iTunes help desk to find out how my account info got compromised   
So I missed my HIIT class and didn't have time to sqeek in a run.
Now I need to refocus and not let this totally derail me.
Bah
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 21, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
{{mouse's credit}}  You might want to check any of your other automated services on the same card. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 21, 2012, 11:52:32 AM
Oh, mouse, that sucks! Good luck getting it all straightened out. That would send me for ice cream.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 21, 2012, 12:41:53 PM
Mini-glad you're feeling better! I know what you mean about cold and froyo. I'm normally in the same boat but DD asked for it and I was starving (red mango doesn't serve anything but froyo and smoothies). The coldness helped me not want more than a few bites.

Bonita- yeah, story of my life/weekend lately! Here's to extra healthy mondays!

Mouse- Oh no! What a pain!  :fingers: That you get it sorted out soon!

Back down a bit this morning- 1.5lbs (of water) to go to Saturday's low number.  Running a bit late this morning so didn't have time to make my usual lunch. Grabbed some leftover curry from the freezer and a tub of yogurt for lunch. The curry is still in there because it wasn't a particularly satisfying lunch last time... so we'll see. Thinking maybe a veggie burger tonight for dinner. Starting to gain some motivation to get back into some kind of excercise... that's limited with my ankle though so... still just in the "thinking about it" stage.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 21, 2012, 01:10:30 PM
scale holding steady, i guess better than gaining  :eyeroll:

Mouse-- good luck with that.

Tomorrow (or the next day) should be Badwater D Day. Ugh. I got my run in, ate my lovely salad and am stocked up with fruit for the rest of the day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 21, 2012, 01:10:44 PM
Ugh that sucks Mouse.  I hope it gets resolved quickly!  I've been trying to channel any stressing things like that into a hard run.  It takes the edge off a bit, hopefully you can get one in too.

The nap time rebellion continues.  Luckily I'm about to leave soon for my massage and then grocery shopping (the best way to kill a massage buzz).  At least my eating habits have been good today.  Oatmeal and healthy cereal.  I'm hoping for some nice fruit & veggies to inspire me at the shop.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: TK on February 21, 2012, 03:44:35 PM
Thanks for the reminder Run Amok.  I've been participating in my weight loss program for 4 or 5 weeks now.  Lost about 13 in the first week and only a pound since, though I feel thinner and healthier every day.  I also started lifting again, following Caito's advice and following the book The New Rules of Lifting.  It is kicking my ass. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on February 21, 2012, 03:47:33 PM
Thanks for the reminder Run Amok.  I've been participating in my weight loss program for 4 or 5 weeks now.  Lost about 13 in the first week and only a pound since, though I feel thinner and healthier every day.  I also started lifting again, following Caito's advice and following the book The New Rules of Lifting.  It is kicking my ass. 

Amazing the way bodies work. The only way I could lose 13 pounds in a week would be to cut off a body part. Seriously, I didn't even lose that much after giving birth.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 21, 2012, 03:51:44 PM
Good for you for sticking with it despite not seeing a lot of additional movement on the scale. It sounds like this program is really working for you! It takes a while for your body to catch up with that intial loss. I bet you are due for another big drop any day. Plus, you know, with all of the work you're putting in your building muscle at the same time. Are they taking other measurements so you can continue to see progress while the scale is lying to you?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 21, 2012, 03:55:11 PM
Hey all!  I fell completely off the wagon for a week or so and am slowly climbing back on.  I've been checking the thread out but between bad behaviour and being incredibly busy I just didn't post.  I don't think I did too much damage, oddly enough, and I enjoyed my bread, chocolate and wine-infused hiatus.  So, yesterday I hit the treadmill for what turned out to be a measly two miles due to time constraints and I am back to eating healthy salads, no bread, spinach smoothies, etc.  And I will be in here regularly because the motivation factor is really helpful!  And congrats to everyone for staying the course!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 21, 2012, 03:58:04 PM
Glad to hear you were able to take a break and then get right back on the wagon. I think it's healthy to take a break, as long as you can find your way back on the straight & narrow. =D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: TK on February 21, 2012, 04:06:28 PM
Good for you for sticking with it despite not seeing a lot of additional movement on the scale. It sounds like this program is really working for you! It takes a while for your body to catch up with that intial loss. I bet you are due for another big drop any day. Plus, you know, with all of the work you're putting in your building muscle at the same time. Are they taking other measurements so you can continue to see progress while the scale is lying to you?

Yes, the only part that we outside of the margin of error (my own made up margin of error, 1/2") was my stomach, down 3 inches, which I thought kicked ass if I do say so myself. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: The Turtle Whisperer on February 21, 2012, 04:24:43 PM
Diving back in midstream... down about 4lbs this month. 

What I eat isn't the problem... how much I eat and what I wash it down with on the other hand....  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Miss on February 21, 2012, 04:27:54 PM
I need another WLC   stat.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 21, 2012, 04:31:29 PM
That's awesome, TK!!

And good job, Harmony, for getting right back on the wagon!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 21, 2012, 06:09:45 PM
I need another WLC   stat.   

join us! we're like an ongoing WLC.

What I eat isn't the problem... how much I eat and what I wash it down with on the other hand....  :(

You and my dh are in the same boat. He has flickers of doing something about it but quickly falls off the wagon. He typically controls his weight with excercise and a groin injury prevents him from doing just about anything... so... he's on the gain program right now. I am biting my tongue.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on February 21, 2012, 06:54:15 PM
Congrats, TK!  That's awesome!  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: TK on February 21, 2012, 07:51:10 PM
Thank you.  I've had a couple days that I've fallen off the wagon, but I'm trying to learn that it does not have to lead to a month long binge and I can just move on. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 21, 2012, 07:58:42 PM
dude, if i lost 13 lbs in a week, i'd be done losing weight!! LOL.  :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 21, 2012, 08:37:54 PM
Yep, tk, I hear ya on that one!

I've GOT to figure something more reasonable out for the nights dd has tennis. I usually go straight from the park & ride to picking her up to dropping her off at tennis. Then I run errand for the 90 minute duration. Ut runs right into diner so im always super hungry. Every week I say I'm going to do something different and then I don't.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 21, 2012, 09:51:46 PM
Yep, tk, I hear ya on that one!

I've GOT to figure something more reasonable out for the nights dd has tennis. I usually go straight from the park & ride to picking her up to dropping her off at tennis. Then I run errand for the 90 minute duration. Ut runs right into diner so im always super hungry. Every week I say I'm going to do something different and then I don't.

Does DD need to eat after tennis still?  What do you typically do now?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 21, 2012, 10:26:07 PM
and I am in for Badwater  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 21, 2012, 10:28:37 PM
Yep, she eats after tennis. Well, she has a snack when she gets home and dh usually makes the two of them dinner while I am with her at tennis. Usually I just suffer in hunger and think of all the naughty things I shouldn't eat. Sometimes I buy things like sugar free gum. Tonight I bought a (nasty!) 100 calorie protein shake- and that helped a little. Then, when I get home I either eat dinner, or I'm over it by then so I skip dinner. Tonigh I had the 100 calorie shake, a sample sized piece of a brownie, and a cracker with a bit of cheese smeared on it. When I got home I made a salad of cuke, peppers, and green onions with a bit of ranch dressing and had a taco lentil wrap. I'm feeling pretty full but have been craving desert all day so I might make myself some kind of i-diet desserty thing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 21, 2012, 11:17:07 PM
Yep, she eats after tennis. Well, she has a snack when she gets home and dh usually makes the two of them dinner while I am with her at tennis. Usually I just suffer in hunger and think of all the naughty things I shouldn't eat. Sometimes I buy things like sugar free gum. Tonight I bought a (nasty!) 100 calorie protein shake- and that helped a little. Then, when I get home I either eat dinner, or I'm over it by then so I skip dinner. Tonigh I had the 100 calorie shake, a sample sized piece of a brownie, and a cracker with a bit of cheese smeared on it. When I got home I made a salad of cuke, peppers, and green onions with a bit of ranch dressing and had a taco lentil wrap. I'm feeling pretty full but have been craving desert all day so I might make myself some kind of i-diet desserty thing.

When she's making her snack to eat before you pick her up, can she make one for you, too, to bring along in the car?

My current problem is that I haven't had time to have my snacks at work, so I'm starving at lunch and dinner time.  I'm not sure how to remedy this.  I have things that are ready to eat, like fruit and string cheese.  Some days just turn out to be crazy, though, and it's not like I can eat during surgery!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 21, 2012, 11:23:35 PM
Can you try and bulk up breakfast and lunch?

Sorry... this might get a touch long. My working theory is that this diet runs us pretty close to the line on glycogen. I've noticed that when I'm hungry, I'm HUNGRY. It sneaks up on me and then I am knaw-your-arm-off-raging-bitch-starving. I manage this much better when I follow the 200/150/300/150/300/100 (or 400 for dinner) plan. But... the reality is that I often skip my snacks. If I do- a regular snack just isn't going to tide me over. I really need to eat a full meal at that point. So, I either need to be more dilligent about eating all day long on tues & thurs OR make SURE I leave work on time and and eat dinner at 4:30 before we leave.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 21, 2012, 11:25:08 PM
Had a rough five days near Vday. I didn't fall off the wagon, I leapt.  Then I had one of those weird streaks where the gym just did NOT fit the schedule.

Not weighing myself for the forseeable future.  At least until I feel thin again.  I goofed and I know it, but I'm not gonna let the higher poundage ruin a whole string of days.

Dress fitting tomorrow!
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Post by: Run Amok on February 21, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
 :fingers: For the dress fitting. Your lapse was pretty brief, you couldn't have done TOO much damage. I'm sure they'll have to take it in again!
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 22, 2012, 07:36:45 AM
But I saw that "fitting in to my old clothes" thread Jamers - that's what counts.  Have fun with the dress fitting!

Meri- YAY!!! You'll be great motivation for my training.  Every time I feel like whining, I'll say to myself, but Meri's training for Badwater!

I am very happy today.  FINALLY hit my milestone, and now I can move on to the next goal.  I want to lose 15 pounds by April 17, when I see the doctor.  Her goal for me is -10 from where I am now, but I typically weigh 5 pounds heavier at the doctor's office so I'm shooting for 15. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 22, 2012, 09:18:06 AM
ugh...I spent the day yesterday eating my stress....and no exercise.

Today I am refocused. I felt awful yesterday, even as I was doing it. It has been along time since I reverted to my old compensation for stress.  So I am battening down the hatches and moving forward today.
As soon as I am done with my coffee I will head up for a nice run. (I will pretend I am merigayle running a million miles!) and my food goal is simply to eat ONLY what I take to work today.

Mini...congrats on the goal!  :lambie:

Seattle girl....eat BEFORE you go into surgery....even a small amount that way you don't get so hungry!
  Anyway...everyone have a good day!

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Post by: debbatx on February 22, 2012, 10:54:17 AM
Mini - congrats!!!

RA - I, too, am biting my tongue around DH. He knows what he weighs. I know what he weighs. He wants to drink Guinness and pretend he's sexy, though, so whatever. I can't force him to drink water and stop eating seconds (or thirds). *sigh*

As for me, I'm rededicating myself to ditching junk food and sodas and making sure I get in a workout.

Of course, I slept in this morning, but I had a kick-ass gym session last night. I'll do something tonight to make sure I get a bit of a workout in, and then get up tomorrow morning.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 22, 2012, 11:40:08 AM
I guess I am lucky in that DH us very motivated to be healthy and be in shape. So we act as a eam in trying to stay motivated and on track. It helps me when we are on the same page, especially since he cooks the majority of the time

I had a very good run this morning. My breakfast was spinach and egg white scramble and a banana. My snacks are apple w peanut butter, blackberries and strawberries and lunch is left over lamb, rice and broccoli

My goal is to stay on pointwith the foods I brought. There is a huge boxof homemade chocolate chip cookies in the briefing room!
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Post by: debbatx on February 22, 2012, 11:56:25 AM
Hmmm. My boss's boss is trying to organize a group to go to lunch. I want to go and there should be relatively healthy options. I just have to *not* get the cheeseburger.
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 22, 2012, 11:57:50 AM
Hmmm. My boss's boss is trying to organize a group to go to lunch. I want to go and there should be relatively healthy options. I just have to *not* get the cheeseburger.

Grilled chicken sandwich, side salad, iced tea. 
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Post by: caito on February 22, 2012, 12:14:36 PM
I'm just dropping in to report that I am having one of those starving, bottomless pit of hunger type of days.     If you are edible, look out!
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 22, 2012, 12:42:17 PM
I'm just dropping in to report that I am having one of those starving, bottomless pit of hunger type of days.     If you are edible, look out!

 :panic:

On those days, I say to myself that it means the numbers on the scale are getting ready to move.  Or I'm premenstrual.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 22, 2012, 12:56:41 PM
Lunch with a friend today. We're going to pho. I haven't decided what I'm having yet.

I'm just dropping in to report that I am having one of those starving, bottomless pit of hunger type of days.     If you are edible, look out!

I know the feeling! I hope it passes soon.

Mouse- when do you do HIIT again?
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Post by: TK on February 22, 2012, 12:58:52 PM
Today's workout kicked my ass, upped my squats by 60 pounds, and made me starving. 
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Post by: onawhim on February 22, 2012, 01:18:05 PM
I'm just dropping in to report that I am having one of those starving, bottomless pit of hunger type of days.     If you are edible, look out!

1. I just drank a squeeze bottle of honey.  I am trying to talk myself out of stealing a CW's peanut butter out of the fridge and locking myself in the bathroom with it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 22, 2012, 01:24:51 PM
Lunch with a friend today. We're going to pho. I haven't decided what I'm having yet.

I know the feeling! I hope it passes soon.

Mouse- when do you do HIIT again?
Tommorow am!  Really looking forward to it!
What about a spicy veggie and noodle soup?? I love pho!
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Post by: hally on February 22, 2012, 01:37:39 PM
caito, I am having one too. And I am pretty sure I am not premenstrual :D
Mini, great on the goal.
Meri! Don't fret too much about weight, you have to fuel yourself for BW!

Haven't been on, was visiting Mom in DE/going on a mega Geocaching run with buddies on Sunday. Ran Saturday morning and did a 2 hour Geocaching hike and Monday did another 90 minute hike followed by an hour later in the day so exercise wasn't a problem. Did not have a cheesesteak but I did have an awesome turkey sub from Capriotti's (it's fresh turkey) that I split in to two lunches. Also had some Scrapple. Once every two years I figure a slice isn't going to hurt me. Also, I bought a package of these super crunchy garlic rye bagel chips at the farmer's market and ate the whole bag. Ooops. I am skipping weigh in this week, mostly because I had to change my WFH (work from home) day to Thursday which is my weigh in day because I have a mammo/sono scheduled.

Mom likes me to cook for her and she loves me to make mussels but I wasn't into them so I made shrimp with asparagus and some garlic, fresh chopped tomato and flat champagne sauce over that yummy Lemon Pappardelle from TJ's. MMMMMmmmmmm it was good :)
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Post by: Run Amok on February 22, 2012, 01:42:33 PM
I love pho too! The noodles don't fit with the way I am eating. I'm hoping they'll have some kind of veggie & tofu stir fry. Otherwise, I'll get a bowl of pho and eat as few of the noodles as possible.  :D
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 22, 2012, 02:09:49 PM
My goodness Hally that sounds delicious!!
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Post by: merigayle on February 22, 2012, 02:16:35 PM
Hally and everyone else, I am definitely motivated to lose the weight. I tried really hard last year and got down to, i do not even want to say, but i was ok, not thrilled, but ok with my weight, when they weighed me in (and i did not eat for three days prior due to nerves) i weighed in 9 lbs heavier  :yikes: it was mortifying (the woman ahead of me was 112lbs and went on and on about how it was sooo much more than the year before  :eyeroll: It is really embarrassing and already having weight issues, a good motivator. We decided that if DD does not wean by her 3rd bday we will wean her that day, it is going to suck and i am already dreading it (MAY) but i hope that will be the last surge i need to lose the last weight before BW.
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Post by: debbatx on February 22, 2012, 02:22:34 PM
Ended up chowing down on a cobb salad. Lord it was good. Water to drink.
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Post by: harmony on February 22, 2012, 02:45:07 PM
Congraulations Merigayle, awesome! 

Easy three miles this morning.  Yogurt for breakfast, spinach smoothie for lunch and curried chickpeas over couscous for dinner.  And lots and lots of DFW.  Lots of it.  Ack.  Working from home, long dog walk coming up.  So far so good! 
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Post by: debbatx on February 22, 2012, 02:58:08 PM
Ooooh, maybe I'll take the dog for a walk tonight. Hmmm.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on February 22, 2012, 03:12:23 PM
Ok so I am jumping back on the wagon hard. I will join WW (real life meetings) again this week or next and I am running again. I need to have no excuses...work out 6 days a week no matter what. I went 5 miles last night after no real runs for probably a month. It sucked and I had to walk a couple times...I hate having to walk.  >:(

When I tried on the wedding dress this weekend I was not happy with how I looked. My arms are all fatty and it isn't flattering.
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Post by: debbatx on February 22, 2012, 03:34:18 PM
Welcome to the dark side, MM! We have cookies Dukan Gallettes!

I'm in the same boat with workouts - now that my sinus infection is gone, no more excuses.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 22, 2012, 04:31:08 PM
Welcome Anna!

Remember .... You can do this!!!
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Post by: Bolloxd on February 22, 2012, 06:41:33 PM
Exercise really helps maintain my anger issues but today a Marathon would not work....I'd still be ready to bitch slap someone.

I just remembered I have wine.  That should help.  I hope.

Congrats meri!
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Post by: merigayle on February 22, 2012, 07:46:41 PM
thanks everyone! I did ok today, except today was Panera day at DD's school, as is EVERY wednesday. How can i not sample a little here and there? and DD does not eat the crust on her crusty bread, that is the best part! I did ok. I could have devoured a lot. You should just see the boxes of pastries and breads!
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 22, 2012, 10:42:21 PM
Thank god there is no Panera here!  Good on you Meri, for not eating all the deliciousness in sight! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 23, 2012, 07:32:27 AM
Thank god there is no Panera here!  Good on you Meri, for not eating all the deliciousness in sight!
DD insists on taking a bag home, and she eats some of it, but sheesh. i threw her iced cookie out this morning, she only ate a bit of it. I think all that is left is the bread and i will slice and freeze later. i use the bread for bfast for my long runs, i feel as if i am running 15-25 miles, i deserve toast for breakfast :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 23, 2012, 08:26:22 AM
Dear Calvin,

Thank you very much for the size-12 grey skirt.  I was so happy when I first tried it on.  I didn't think it would zip, because most of my clothes were size 14.  But it fit, if snuggly, and made my ass look wonderful.  I wore that skirt almost every week for just exactly one year.  It was a frustrating year because my weight wasn't budging as fast as I wanted it to.  But my skirt made me feel good about myself.

This morning I put it on, and realized I had to say goodbye.  It just won't stay on my hips, and I didn't want to risk an at-work wardrobe malfunction.  So I stroked it tenderly and put it in the Salvation Army pile.  I'll invest in another one once I get to my goal weight.

Much love,
Mini

PS I'm taking the size-10 suit pants to the tailor to be taken in.  I'm not ready to let them go yet.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 23, 2012, 08:43:51 AM
Dear Calvin,

Thank you very much for the size-12 grey skirt.  I was so happy when I first tried it on.  I didn't think it would zip, because most of my clothes were size 14.  But it fit, if snuggly, and made my ass look wonderful.  I wore that skirt almost every week for just exactly one year.  It was a frustrating year because my weight wasn't budging as fast as I wanted it to.  But my skirt made me feel good about myself.

This morning I put it on, and realized I had to say goodbye.  It just won't stay on my hips, and I didn't want to risk an at-work wardrobe malfunction.  So I stroked it tenderly and put it in the Salvation Army pile.  I'll invest in another one once I get to my goal weight.

Much love,
Mini

PS I'm taking the size-10 suit pants to the tailor to be taken in.  I'm not ready to let them go yet.
:-[ for the loss of a favorite skirt. 

I need to tailor my slacks also....


good morning!  :luvcoffee:

I have my HIIT class this morning! After missing Tuesday's (stupid hackers) I am really looking forward to it.
I managed to stay on track yesterday.  My goal today is the same. Nothing to eat other than what I bring...a banana, apple w pb, berries and chicken soup.

What is the plan for everyone else??
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Post by: Coyzmum on February 23, 2012, 08:59:28 AM
Dear Calvin,

Thank you very much for the size-12 grey skirt.  I was so happy when I first tried it on.  I didn't think it would zip, because most of my clothes were size 14.  But it fit, if snuggly, and made my ass look wonderful.  I wore that skirt almost every week for just exactly one year.  It was a frustrating year because my weight wasn't budging as fast as I wanted it to.  But my skirt made me feel good about myself.

This morning I put it on, and realized I had to say goodbye.  It just won't stay on my hips, and I didn't want to risk an at-work wardrobe malfunction.  So I stroked it tenderly and put it in the Salvation Army pile.  I'll invest in another one once I get to my goal weight.

Much love,
Mini

PS I'm taking the size-10 suit pants to the tailor to be taken in.  I'm not ready to let them go yet.

Sad to see the skirt go, but great job!!  All of you inspire me.  I hope to join this thread with some of my own progress soon.
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Post by: merigayle on February 23, 2012, 09:15:39 AM
that is great Mini!!!

i just have to share that this recipe is great and i ate it for bfast. I also omitted the agave (60 cals) and subbed with a tbs of apple sauce (unsweetened/natural). I also find the lemon extract to be superior to using vanilla. Soooo yummy.

http://happyherbivore.com/recipe/single-serving-blueberry-muffin/ (http://happyherbivore.com/recipe/single-serving-blueberry-muffin/)

oh and mine look sooooo much better than the picture.
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Post by: seattlegirl on February 23, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Let's hear it for future smaller skirts!!  Yeah!

My plan today is cereal breakfast, grapes and string cheese for snacks, bean and barley lunch.  Tofu is marinating for tonight to go with broccoli slaw.  That's it.  Got to save up for my birthday this weekend!  :)
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Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 10:01:54 AM
That's awesome, Mini - great job!

I was supposed to get up and run this morning, but Reid decided to wake up at 2 AM and cry for half an hour. No idea what that was all about, but it totally messed with my plans. Hmph. I need to figure out how to handle things like that so that I can still get up and get my workouts in. I have the gym tonight, so I'll be okay, but I need to get my cardio workouts in!

Smoothie and waffles for breakfast, an apple and leftover chicken, orzo, and broccoli for lunch, soup and a sandwich of some kind for dinner. I have yogurt, clementines, and cherry tomatoes for snacks, too. And DFW. Lots and lots of DFW.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 23, 2012, 10:05:40 AM
that is great Mini!!!

i just have to share that this recipe is great and i ate it for bfast. I also omitted the agave (60 cals) and subbed with a tbs of apple sauce (unsweetened/natural). I also find the lemon extract to be superior to using vanilla. Soooo yummy.

http://happyherbivore.com/recipe/single-serving-blueberry-muffin/ (http://happyherbivore.com/recipe/single-serving-blueberry-muffin/)

oh and mine look sooooo much better than the picture.

Oooh, that looks yummy!  And I love the idea of single-servings so you don't have to deal with the temptation of eating more than you should.
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Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 10:49:45 AM
Ooooh, that does look good! I have a blueberry muffin recipe from Cooking Light that I keep meaning to try. Maybe Sunday.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 23, 2012, 11:24:28 AM
How old will you be Seattlegirl?? 

Deb, bummer about the lack of sleep. I don't think I would be able to motivate either

Omg. HIIT was so hard!!!!!!! My legs just stopped shaking.  I will be very sore tomorrow I am sure!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 11:57:02 AM
Yeah, the alarm went off at 5, I took my temp, and apparently went right back to sleep. I don't remember taking the thermometer out of my mouth, but it was on the nightstand when I dragged out of bed at 6.

I'm going to have to figure out how to get past it, though.

Oh, and I have a raging headache, too.  :grr:
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Post by: Run Amok on February 23, 2012, 12:13:02 PM
TK- what does your program looklike these days? Are you finding the eating has gotten easier to stick to? 3" around the middle is fantastic!
SG- what's on tap for your b'day?
Welcome Anna! When is your first meeting?
Mini- I know the feeling of saying goodbye to clothes that you like a lot but are just too big. Definitely bittersweet.
Debba- I'm in headache land with you today. Any chance you can snag a nap somewhere in there today?

So, so, so mad at myself. I was great all day yesterday until a friend called me to see if I wanted to meet her and a couple of other people for a beer. I figured I'd just have some seltzer or tea and be fine. Well... 2 pints and plate of cheese sticks later...  :incazzato:

Just ate my cereal breakfast (trying half tj's fiber cereal and half 9 whole grain crunch). I have soup and a sandwich for lunch. An orange and wasabi almonds for morning snack and probably more fiber cereal for my afternoon snack (it's tennis day today!). Not sure about dinner. Maybe a stirfry.
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Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 12:36:39 PM
OMG, a nap would be fabulous. Unlikely, unless I figure out how to wedge myself into the back of my car at lunch, but it's nice to imagine. :)

Unhappy problem - my lunch doesn't sound good right now. :( I don't know what *does* sound good (other than chocolate), but leftover chicken, orzo, and broccoli doesn't sound good.

Let's hope my laziness kicks in.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 23, 2012, 12:45:53 PM
Debba- just eat it anyway. Then, revisit if you still feel like you need something else. You know it tastes good, it'll be fine.
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Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
Thanks - I needed that. What really sounds good is chocolate. I gave up junk food, though.  :sigh:
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Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 01:05:29 PM
I figured it out - it's the sweet I want. I normally have a PB&J, and I think I'm after the sweet of the jelly. That's why the chicken doesn't sound good.

I have honey-banana yogurt and clementines. I hope that's enough.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 23, 2012, 01:10:17 PM
I only know it's true because i have to kick my own @ss on a regular basis. I find that if I just buck up and eat the healthy thing instead, I'm usually fine. But, my hungry brain "reaches" for french fries or candy when it's hungry. I am working on retraining the "I'm hungry" signal away from "I want candy".

Here's something from the i-diet book you could try. She takes 1 square of bittersweet/dark chocolate (I think it's 10grams? I'll double check when I get home) and 1/4 cup of fiber one type cereal. Nuke the chocolate and cereal until the chocolate is melty (takes about a minute in my microwave, but ymmv). Stir together and let cool. You can eat this as is. Or, you can add a couple tbs of low-fat whipped cream (15 calories/tbs) and 1/2 cup of frozen raspberries. Or you can add a little flavored extract to the cereal and chocolate mix. I have also mixed in 2% plain greek yogurt. You could add something like stevia if you wanted (I don't find I need it). I think it's about 100 calories.

Another favorite is 1/2 cup of applesauce (I made my own and it really makes this SO much better) with 1/4 cup of oat brand and a couple of tbs of light whipped cream. I often heat the applesauce and then have it over cold greek yogurt. Really yummy but still healthy.

I *know* it sounds weird, but it really does give me the sense of eating something sweet, creamy, and indulgent without actually eating junky food.

Either that, or I have a cup of tea- which is also surprisingly effective.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 23, 2012, 01:12:01 PM
...and, if I don't have an acceptable desserty thing on hand and I'm really cravng something sweet- I promise myself to make a treat later. Sometimes I still want it, sometimes I don't.

I also bought some SF hard candies to keep at my desk. They are pretty reasonably calories wise and sort-of do the trick. I ate them all though and I'm going to try not to replace them (would rather just break the afternoon sweet habit altogether!).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 01:13:06 PM
I'm eating the chicken. It's actually pretty good - the orzo has absorbed a lot of the sauce so it's yummy. I still want something sweet, but I've got my fingers crossed for the yogurt and/or clementines.

Those other ideas are great, though! Especially the one about promising myself a treat later if I still want one. I just have to come up with a treat that's not necessarily junk food, since I gave it up for Lent.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 23, 2012, 01:29:10 PM
did you define junkfood? SF hot chocolate is another "something sweet" you could do.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 23, 2012, 01:30:03 PM
Oh, another one she has in the book is a pear with 2tsp of caramel sauce (and maybe some light whipped cream?). I haven't tried this one, but I bet it would be good. I bet it would also be good with an apple.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 01:32:30 PM
Yeah, that's where I'm running into problems. I really gave it up to help me stop with the binges. In that case, "junk food" includes, but is not necessarily limited to Skittles, Reese's Pieces, Whatchamacalits, Doritos, ice cream, Reese's Mini PB Cups, and soda. Should also probably include fast food, not that I eat much of it, but just a little triggers problems.

Hot chocolate is a good idea. Not sure on which side of the line something like whipped cream should fall.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 23, 2012, 02:06:52 PM
I will say that I have zero self control. So anything that involves me saying I can't have junkfood means I crave it until my craving breaks me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
That's why I gave it up for Lent. I'm not terribly observant when it comes to religion, but I *do* take this one more seriously. It seems like asking for trouble to make a promise like that and then break it willy-nilly just because I want to.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 23, 2012, 03:21:03 PM
That chocolate/cereal thing sounds awesome, but I would totally binge on it and not be able to stop until the fiber cereal caused a rupture. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 23, 2012, 03:25:26 PM
Happy Herbivore also has a single serving brownie recipe and a website/blog called chocolate covered Kate has a lot of single serve recipes, most have been pretty good, in a low fat type of way :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 03:25:57 PM
That chocolate/cereal thing sounds awesome, but I would totally binge on it and not be able to stop until the fiber cereal caused a rupture. 

Yep. Or, I'd put "a little" chocolate on it, while tricking myself into thinking that "a little" is really like 10 chocolate bars worth or something.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 23, 2012, 03:27:11 PM
oh and Badwater (atleast so far, its only been two days) is a good motivator. I ate a big bowl of steamed broccoli after my run and thought it was delicious and ran faster than normal!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 23, 2012, 04:19:12 PM
My coworkers are KILLING me today!!!!!

One is eating Chinese the other brought pizza.  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 04:47:46 PM
I just ate my tomatoes and my yogurt. I think I'll make it. Whew!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 23, 2012, 07:24:46 PM
I just ate my tomatoes and my yogurt. I think I'll make it. Whew!


Together?  Is that a new Chobani flavor?    :pissed:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 23, 2012, 07:47:32 PM
 :fiery:  dude! i am sooooo angry. I came home to eat dinner and DH had made home made fries. They were on the baking sheet and i gobbled many up. Well, afterwards, i was like, wow, these taste so good for baked fries, how did you make them? well, he FRIED them before baking them. They did not seem greasy to me. I am so sick over that. I did sooooo awesome today. I was so mad at him and he thought it was kinda funny. I was like, why didn't you tell me??? he KNOWS I would never have eaten them.  :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 08:25:56 PM

Together?  Is that a new Chobani flavor?    :pissed:


:sidesplit:

No. It was a little thing of honey-banana yogurt and a handful of cherry tomatoes. Weird, but I wanted to get both in.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on February 23, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Ugh.  I hate having my freaking period, it wreaks havoc on my self control and desire to eat healthfully.  I went to the grocery store intent on buying just eggs, milk, and Diet Coke and I walked out with a bag of Oreos and also a 2# brick of cheese.   :nono:

On the upside, I did not talk myself out of going to the gym, and did 15 minutes more on the elliptical than I had planned.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 23, 2012, 10:13:49 PM
Ah-ha! Nadra has my binge cravings!

Um, you can keep 'em, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 23, 2012, 10:52:24 PM
How old will you be Seattlegirl?? 

I'll be turning 34.  I can't believe it.  I don't know how time is flying by like this!!

SG- what's on tap for your b'day?

Stuff I shouldn't talk about in this thread.  :D  There will be beer and fries involved.  I'll also make sure we get in a really long walk with the doggies.   :doglick:  But I'm really looking forward to the beer and fries part.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 24, 2012, 08:14:57 AM
SG- i will be 34 this fall too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 24, 2012, 08:51:31 AM
34 is a baby!  I'm going to be 51 in June!!!

Ok.. I haven't posted much due to being super busy at work and also plateuing on the weight loss. I've been diligently doing my workouts and logging my food.. I have not been super perfect with my food, but I've been good.. My splurges involved breakfast out with stuffed french toast.  I guess the good part of ordering that was no homefries or bacon came with it so probably a good choice. In additional to my regular workouts, I took two spin classes this week. On weds I did a double. The trainer for my biggest loser group has really pushed us since we are 10 days away from the end and close to 2nd place right now.  So . weigh in today, after 2-3 weeks of maintaining was down 3 lbs.. woo hoo.. that is 11 all together since I started on January 9th.. so not quite 7 weeks.  I'm happy with that, but more importantly I feel good and I feel toned up, especially more in my abs..

My trainer wants to keep the group together for training after the contest is over.. if we all sign up, she has worked at a deal for 18.00 per hour for the 6 off us. It's a little more expensive then the regular small group training, which is 15.00 or 16 I think, but it would be a closed group, so no one else could sign up, which is great since we are all around the same age and all female.. I'm probably the most fit of the group and could maybe use something a little more challenging but I prefer not to be in a group of al 20-30 somethings so I think I will continue this once a week and then pick something else up on another day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 24, 2012, 08:56:57 AM
Y'all are so young!   I wish I had your youthful metabolism.

I've weighed the same for three days-exactly the same, not even a tenth of a pound different.  That's astonishing, considering how my weight bounces around day-to-day.  I'd like to lose 2 pounds by the end of the month, but that's only next Thursday so I might not make it.  Even 1 would be nice, though. 

I'm starting a new 90-day Ready for Summer plan March 1.  No real change in what I'm doing, just adding a bit of time pressure to keep me from slacking and snacking.  Though i am toying with the idea of actually (gasp) running.  I'm skeered of injury, though so I'm approaching the very cautiously. 

One of the motivations is a beach vacation at the beginning of May.  EEEK!!!   I am not bathingsuit ready!

If I play my cards right, I'll be within 10 pounds of my goal weight by June 1.  :rah:

Welcome Mom of Scooby!  It sounds like that group has done you a lot of good, it sound well worth the money to keep going with it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 24, 2012, 09:23:06 AM
MOS, I would probably do it if you like the group and mesh well.  I am thinking I will be signing up for HIIT again, I like the "get in, get it done, get out" workout before work. 

Mini....I hear you about being bathing suit ready! I leave for Maui in 4 weeks... :pissed: I am holding steady on my weight, can't seem to budge and in the last 2 days I can tell I am starting to hold water. Which means this time next month when I am in MAuiI will be holding water too!!

I am trying to stay focused on my goals, simple as they are, eat only what I brought to work, and get some exercise each day. The last few days I have been successful, so I've got that going for me. I need to make it through today at work and I am golden. For whatever reason, weekends are easier for me. As soon as I finish my coffee I am heading upstairs to the tredmilll for my morning run.  My work food will be pretty much the same as yesterday. apple w pb, berries, broccoli and chicken noodle soup.

Dewey goes in for his dental cleaning this morning. He is sleeping on my legs right now and looking very sweet. I am sure his anesthesia will go fine, but I always worry a little. Our vet loves him, she always offers to babysit them...so I know he will get good care.

Merigayle, is your DH just clueless, or is he purposely trying to derail you? That is very frustrating.

Deb....Good for you for staying on track. I didn't think tomatoes and yogurt sounded that bad together, but not honey yogurt! I prefer my cottage cheese with salsa..people at work think I am weird.


Where is Anna???

Have a good day everyone.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 24, 2012, 10:07:39 AM
Meri, fries happen so don't beat yourself up.
Virtual smack upside the head for your hubby for doing that though.
Nadra, diet coke???? EEEEK diet soda is the devil.

I didn't weigh in this week because of change in work from home day but I think I am down a few tenths of a pound.
Have not been very good though, a new week of logging begins today. Hopefully I can get off this rollercoaster!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 24, 2012, 10:52:40 AM
Thanks, Mouse! I'll have the yogurt for my morning snack today. :) I'm really tired today, for no particular reason. I'm also up a bit on the scale, which... whatever.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 24, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
Finally weighed in. Still 4 down from the end of the challenge.  I want to lose 5 more as fast as possible, then maintain til April 28th.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 24, 2012, 12:38:47 PM
How'd the dress fitting go Jamers? 4 down from the end of the challenge is awesome!

I am also in the "not swimsuit ready" camp. I have a trip to St John, with some friends, at the end of March.  :o I really need to get crackin' again. I'm running out of time!!

My tummy is unhappy with me. I'm not sure if it's the new cereal I'm eating this week or the sugar free mints I've been eating by the handful (ok, not really... but they are sweetened with sorbitol which is why they are suspect).

I ate my cereal breakfast. Lunch is tomato soup, pb & J, a string cheese and some peppers.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on February 24, 2012, 01:02:45 PM
Nadra, diet coke???? EEEEK diet soda is the devil.

I've read the research and I'm not convinced.  I drink lots of water, I eat lots of fruits and veggies, and when I cut back on Diet Coke I tend to eat more sugary and salty snack food which is worse for me than aspartame. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 24, 2012, 01:17:38 PM
I decided I couldn't live without the skirt and took it in to the tailor with the pants.  He was very impressed with how much they needed to be taken in!  Cheaper than a new skirt and new pants.

Bought mangoes and blueberries at the store today - it's going to be a sweet weekend!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 24, 2012, 01:34:50 PM
It's wonderful to start to see spring produce filling the shelves- asparagus, berries, artichokes, oh my!

I've read the research and I'm not convinced.  I drink lots of water, I eat lots of fruits and veggies, and when I cut back on Diet Coke I tend to eat more sugary and salty snack food which is worse for me than aspartame. 

https://my-ei.org/drupal/sites/default/files/event_docs/2012schoolingshowentryform.pdf
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 24, 2012, 01:50:30 PM
Oh, how I wish I could buy blueberries!!! They're delicious in smoothies, but it's not worth the trouble they cause.

That said, yay for more produce choices!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 24, 2012, 01:53:41 PM
 :skep: What kinda trouble do blue berries cause?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 24, 2012, 01:56:23 PM
Reid is either allergic or intolerant to raw blueberries. The diapers afterwards....  :nono:

If they're cooked, like in muffins or something, he's fine. But raw? Nooooo.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 24, 2012, 01:57:30 PM
Aaaaah. I don't blame you then. Blueberries grow really well in this area so they are a big favorite for us. I wish they weren't so perishable and/or that our bush was more productive. The ones you pick yourself are sooooooo much better.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 24, 2012, 01:59:19 PM
I love blueberries, and so does Reid. But the last time I added some to the morning smoothie, day care called to give us a heads-up.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 24, 2012, 02:30:54 PM
I've read the research and I'm not convinced.  I drink lots of water, I eat lots of fruits and veggies, and when I cut back on Diet Coke I tend to eat more sugary and salty snack food which is worse for me than aspartame. 

I have never liked it so I can't understand why anyone would drink it personally.
My motto is if I can't catch a buzz from it I just drink water :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 24, 2012, 03:32:39 PM
Ok friends, help me decide what soup to make next. I'm feeling rather uninspired. I just wrapped up tomato & barley and have a couple of servings left of yellow split pea and wheat berry. I haven't made black bean or lentil in a while. I thought about hot & sour and/or moong dal... but I'm not sure I can eat either one 2-3x/week for the next several weeks. So... help!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 24, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
<---- Dumbass.  I made banana bread this afternoon as a treat for DH.  The smell is killing me.  I just ate a slice, to make sure it wasn't poisonous.  It was delicious.  Damn.


RA, I never get tired of bean soup.  I make it with black, white, and pink beans, jalapenos, diced tomatoes, onions, peppers, rice, and a bit of salazon Goya.  Sometimes add turkey keilbasa for a bit heartier soup.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on February 24, 2012, 04:26:02 PM
https://my-ei.org/drupal/sites/default/files/event_docs/2012schoolingshowentryform.pdf

 ???

That's a horse show entry form.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 24, 2012, 04:36:28 PM
Oops! http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/08/31/does-diet-soda-make-you-fat.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/08/31/does-diet-soda-make-you-fat.html) Try that one instead.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 24, 2012, 04:53:39 PM
???

That's a horse show entry form.

Oh thank God. I thought it was just me doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 24, 2012, 04:58:09 PM
I have never liked it so I can't understand why anyone would drink it personally.
My motto is if I can't catch a buzz from it I just drink water :D
me, too!! Soda is definitely something I can do without.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 24, 2012, 05:36:37 PM
Mini- so it was not a whole wheat flour apple sauce instead of oil banana bread? :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 24, 2012, 06:52:51 PM
Meri, fries happen so don't beat yourself up.
Virtual smack upside the head for your hubby for doing that though.
Nadra, diet coke???? EEEEK diet soda is the devil.

I didn't weigh in this week because of change in work from home day but I think I am down a few tenths of a pound.
Have not been very good though, a new week of logging begins today. Hopefully I can get off this rollercoaster!

1 to the fries/Meri comment!

And you'll have to pry the devil out of my cold dead hands.  :D  There is so much more in my diet to work on, that I'm not giving up my diet soda.  I have cut back,  but that is because I think the caffiene was keeping me up at night.  I just don't think it's that bad for you. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 24, 2012, 06:58:02 PM
<---- Dumbass.  I made banana bread this afternoon as a treat for DH.  The smell is killing me.  I just ate a slice, to make sure it wasn't poisonous.  It was delicious.  Damn.


RA, I never get tired of bean soup.  I make it with black, white, and pink beans, jalapenos, diced tomatoes, onions, peppers, rice, and a bit of salazon Goya.  Sometimes add turkey keilbasa for a bit heartier soup.



You guys...  a slice of banana bread is not going to break you!!!  A whole loaf is another story...

I'm working on this in therapy.  No food is bad.  No single food is going to make us fat.  It's not realistic for most people to never eat "fun foods", and you know what NEVER helps?  Beating yourself up for it.  Guilt and shame do not lead to changes in behavior in this area...  maybe in the short term, but not in the long term.  Be kind to yourselves, you guys.  Please.   :heartbeat:

Please don't think this was meant to be a snarky or mean post...  I just see this group of amazing, wonderful women getting down on themselves and it makes me sad. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 24, 2012, 07:22:37 PM
Mini- so it was not a whole wheat flour apple sauce instead of oil banana bread? :D

Whole wheat flour & margerine, brown sugar, eggs, walnuts, cranberries - YUM!!

And Courtney's right, it's still wholesome nutritious food.  A slice doesn't throw me off my plan for the day.   It's just that I'm really trying to eliminate grain and sugar and this has both!   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 24, 2012, 07:53:21 PM
  No food is bad.  No single food is going to make us fat.  It's not realistic for most people to never eat "fun foods", and you know what NEVER helps?  Beating yourself up for it.  Guilt and shame do not lead to changes in behavior in this area...  maybe in the short term, but not in the long term.  Be kind to yourselves, you guys.  Please.   :heartbeat:

THIS!! We have to learn to have something because we want it, eat a reasonable portion and be satisfied. Not eat the whole cake, pizza, box of donuts, half gallon of ice cream. rack of ribs etc because we feel like we are doing something bad and may never have it again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 24, 2012, 09:10:24 PM
THIS!! We have to learn to have something because we want it, eat a reasonable portion and be satisfied. Not eat the whole cake, pizza, box of donuts, half gallon of ice cream. rack of ribs etc because we feel like we are doing something bad and may never have it again.

That's just it, though - I honestly don't know if I'm capable of having a "reasonable" portion of cake, pizza, ice cream, candy, whatever - junk food. I really don't. It's like crack to me. I have a tiny bit and the next thing I know it's been three days and I've gained 5 pounds because I binge.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 24, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
Blueberries are one of my favorites but they are so expensive!  Almost $5 for a little amount when my parents' blueberries produce more than anyone can eat.  I find it hard to get really nice fresh fruit & veggies but I did the other day and the twins ate them ALL very quickly.  They were good.

I've been keeping myself busy with the mixer and my new cast iron.  Banana crumb muffins were a couple days ago...yum.  Now I've got bread baking in the oven.  I have managed to keep my portion sizes limited.  I'm staying on top of my exercises too - running, abs & push ups. 


RA - what about minestrone type soup?  I love it with some good aged parmesan cheese.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 24, 2012, 10:52:24 PM
RA, Carrot-ginger soup?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 25, 2012, 12:40:11 AM
That's just it, though - I honestly don't know if I'm capable of having a "reasonable" portion of cake, pizza, ice cream, candy, whatever - junk food. I really don't. It's like crack to me. I have a tiny bit and the next thing I know it's been three days and I've gained 5 pounds because I binge.

I definitely feel this way around certain foods...  but I'm also not even remotely willing to live a life where I can't ever have them.

So my therapist and I did a test this past year.  A couple of foods that I have always felt OUT OF CONTROL around are cheetos and ice cream.  So I literally told myself that these foods were ok.  And I scheduled in controlled times to eat them.  Like, portion controlled and on purpose.  Instead of buying a box of ice cream bars, I told myself that I could go get an ice cream cone from McDonalds any time I wanted.  And I purposefully bought tiny portion controlled bags of cheetos (snack size) to eat with sandwiches.  Amazingly, after experimenting with this and following thru with allowing myself to have these foods when i craved them, I no longer felt the desire to binge on them or eat them in secret.  Seriously.   

And now when I feel myself being all "OMG I WANT TO EAT A BUCKET OF CHEETOS!" I literally tell myself that I can have them, and go prove it to myself with a portion controlled bag. 

That's not to say that if there was a big giant bag in front of me, that I won't overeat on them.  But it stopped the behaviors that were really not helping me (buying a big bag, and eating as many as I could in the car on the way home from the store, or hiding how much I'd eaten from people, etc). 

My therapist also just gave me a catalog with some really good, healthy resource type books...  If any of you are interested, I could post them here.  They have different sections.  Bulimia, anorexia, binge eating, body image... 

If I'm being pushy about this stuff, tell me to shut it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 25, 2012, 07:17:21 AM
I definitely feel this way around certain foods...  but I'm also not even remotely willing to live a life where I can't ever have them.

If I'm being pushy about this stuff, tell me to shut it. 

I don't think you are Courtney, it is totally not healthy to let a food control you. Damn it I am not going to let a carton of ice cream tell me what to do!!  :D
Seriously though.....there is something else at work here Deb.
I struggle with my binges too....albeit mine are not junk food usually. Still overeating is not normal.

PS....on my scale I am down another 1.4! making my total 21
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 25, 2012, 07:46:03 AM
great job Hally. I have not stepped on the scale in a while. yesterday i did pretty good, worst i did was a few spoonfuls of DD's coconut ice cream. that ain't too bad! I ran really well too. finished this week's Biggest Loser on the TM. anyone know anything about this? https://www.google.com/offers/home?x=PQAAABX1Qz8RexzoGgQ1C3cUKoYtLpPkXdXqazDzx2i08NqOD5zQm7m0s--5edHqFT6O8u6cuTMD76gVtvAOOcR09F8&utm_source=google-offers&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-offer# (https://www.google.com/offers/home?x=PQAAABX1Qz8RexzoGgQ1C3cUKoYtLpPkXdXqazDzx2i08NqOD5zQm7m0s--5edHqFT6O8u6cuTMD76gVtvAOOcR09F8&utm_source=google-offers&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-offer#)!details/f5456c9de1ea327e/SSP2GC8QAWI13SHI;r=IWRldGFpbHMvZjU0NTZjOWRlMWVhMzI3ZS9NMUpHUFgySzE1RzlMS1VB
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 25, 2012, 07:50:53 AM
That link just takes me to offers near me Meri??
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 25, 2012, 09:23:31 AM
Kale chips!  Made 'em this morning for the first time.  Delish, but what's the trick of not having some over-crisp, some still moist?  I tried to get the peices all about the same size, but I think I crowded the pan too much. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 25, 2012, 09:49:27 AM
That link just takes me to offers near me Meri??
it was for a deal for TRX FORCE Kit

Mini-- i have to move them around the sheet pan while they are cooking. delicious, right??? I just gobble them up, they melt in your mouth.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 25, 2012, 09:54:03 AM
Dress fitting rescheduled to noon today because the tailor had a family emergency.  I'm nervous!

4 miles at 10 minute pace today, and I felt strong!

I'm less dense now, so I'm extra jiggly.  Any pro tips for that, short of surgery?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 25, 2012, 11:02:15 AM
Hally that is awesome! Nice work!

I've never tried kale much less kale chips....it kinda frightens me like other types of greens do too.


I made banana & blueberry baked oatmeal for breakfast.  Yum.

Not sure of plans for the rest of today.  Hope y'all enjoy the weekend.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 25, 2012, 11:05:00 AM
Jamers I have a similar issue....the weight is gone but the skin is still loose.  Its not too bad but I notice it.  I think more toning and strength exercises are the way to go but that is just my non expert guess.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 25, 2012, 11:35:17 AM
Finally back down to my new low. Now, if I can keep it together for a few days, maybe a new # will show up on the scale.  ;)

My friends are all in SF for the weekend. I was supposed to go with them but procrastinated on tickets and they were suddenly $500. I guess that's probably a good thing weight-loss-wise. But, I'm kind of bummed.

I have a big tub of tiny kales that need to get eaten- maybe I'll make them into kale chips.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 25, 2012, 11:54:51 AM
I pretty sure this is full of nonsense, but I like their general philosophy.  Jiggles are GOOD! They mean you've come a long way & are ready to go further


 http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/muscle-matters/58450-jiggly-fat-try-remember-good-thing-heres-why.html
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 25, 2012, 12:34:58 PM
I definitely feel this way around certain foods...  but I'm also not even remotely willing to live a life where I can't ever have them.

So my therapist and I did a test this past year.  A couple of foods that I have always felt OUT OF CONTROL around are cheetos and ice cream.  So I literally told myself that these foods were ok.  And I scheduled in controlled times to eat them.  Like, portion controlled and on purpose.  Instead of buying a box of ice cream bars, I told myself that I could go get an ice cream cone from McDonalds any time I wanted.  And I purposefully bought tiny portion controlled bags of cheetos (snack size) to eat with sandwiches.  Amazingly, after experimenting with this and following thru with allowing myself to have these foods when i craved them, I no longer felt the desire to binge on them or eat them in secret.  Seriously.   

And now when I feel myself being all "OMG I WANT TO EAT A BUCKET OF CHEETOS!" I literally tell myself that I can have them, and go prove it to myself with a portion controlled bag. 

That's not to say that if there was a big giant bag in front of me, that I won't overeat on them.  But it stopped the behaviors that were really not helping me (buying a big bag, and eating as many as I could in the car on the way home from the store, or hiding how much I'd eaten from people, etc). 

My therapist also just gave me a catalog with some really good, healthy resource type books...  If any of you are interested, I could post them here.  They have different sections.  Bulimia, anorexia, binge eating, body image... 

If I'm being pushy about this stuff, tell me to shut it. 

I see myself in a lot of what you wrote.  I'd love to see the resources you mention. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 25, 2012, 12:40:31 PM
Due to a hip injury, I cannot run.  Whenever I stop running, I lose weight. Not that I have to, but still, it feels nice to have some wiggle room. I was at 116 this morning.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 25, 2012, 01:39:16 PM
Ice Cream  :'( on your injury and  >:( on your weight and losing it when you can't exercise. Get well soon.

Kale Chips! Mine get too crispy in spots too, I eat them anyway.

That jiggly fat thing is weird.

I bought half a papaya and a container of julienne fresh raw beets which I love but never make myself and had that on arugula with goat cheese, chicken and TJ's champagne vinaigrette which I add a little Dijon mustard too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 25, 2012, 02:01:03 PM
mmmm beets!

I had a grapefruit & two slices of wheat toast with pb and jam for breakfast & morning snack rolled into one.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 25, 2012, 05:08:34 PM
Hi!  I keep wanting to try kale chips...  I've heard they are really good. 

Meri, do you want a TRX?  I have one, and would sell it to you for a great deal if you are interested.  THere is one at our onsite gym at work. 

SG, I'll PM you with some of the resources :)

I had a kick ass spin class this morning.  90 min, and I really made it tough!  It was fun!
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Post by: merigayle on February 25, 2012, 05:58:19 PM
oooh i may be interested! PM me details, etc.

i am eating dinner, my plate is 75% steamed veggies and 25% my lentil korma curry. I think from now on i will sustain mostly on steamed veggies  :-\
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Post by: hally on February 25, 2012, 06:14:40 PM
I loved taking spin but the classes at my gym don't fit in with my schedule now.

I am coloring my hair and then I will make a similar dish to what I made Mom last week with the lemon Pappardelle and shrimp. I ate the asparagus all up last night so I will sub frozen peas I guess.                                             

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Post by: Run Amok on February 25, 2012, 06:22:49 PM
3/4 cup baked beans, 1/2 toasted cheese/mustard/onion sandwich and a big salad with hummus dressing for lunch. Feeling fat & happy. Lunches are so much easier on days I'm home.

I think I'm going to do black bean and lentil soups. It's just easy and I know I'll eat them. I might make moong dahl too. I really liked it and will eat it eventually- even if not every day.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 25, 2012, 07:49:10 PM
Courtney..I, too, see myself in your words. I would buy food and eat it on the way home and try to find a way to get the packaging into the trash so DH would not know. After a while, I would tell Dh what I had done...to take away the shame and also to own up to what I was doing. He never judged or lectured. Instead he would tell me what he did that day that he wasn't proud of. Between that, and talking to my therapist (inspired to see one by your blog..just so you know) I learned a lot about my triggers, and myself.

Run Amok...good job! Maybe seeing your current low will help keep you motivated. Sorry you missed out on SF, though. :(

Meri, I usually have several servings of veggies. It helps me feel full!

I am/was tired today. I managed a Jillian 30ds, and some house cleaning. Wasn't very hungry most of the day. We are having roast chicken and broccoli, and now I am starting to feel hungry! It smells great.

Tomorrow is Step (yay) and then to a friends house to learn how to put the binding on my first quilt. It is our turn to do Sunday dinner, and it is also a birthday celebration. I hope to stay focused on my food intakes!



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 25, 2012, 07:53:39 PM
i always have a lot of veggies, this was just a HUGE amount of veggies, probably 4-5 servings? filled my HUGE plate.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 25, 2012, 09:18:52 PM
Binging isn't really my issue, but I've definitely hidden food from dh. He teases me mercilessly about what I eat (I know he thinks it's in good fun... but it bugs me) so if I buy candy, it lives in my car. I'll eat a piece or two on my drive here or there. Then, of course, he finds all the wrappers...
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 25, 2012, 09:29:11 PM
I only hide shoes from my dh.  But I do prefer eating alone, I always have.  I also prefer eating with my fingers whenever possible. 

Tonight's dinner was a chicken pot pie with lots of veggies.  The crust was a miserable failure.  It was too dry to roll out, so I ended up over-working it to integrate more water and it got tough and nasty. 

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Post by: Run Amok on February 25, 2012, 10:24:49 PM
Bummer! I hate that!

One thing I'll say is that I still struggle with the right sized portions. Now, 2.5 months in, I *know* I am happy and satisfied with the i-diet portion sizes. They are enough. I feel satisfied, but not stuffed (sometimes I do feel stuffed). But, my brain ALWAYS says- you don't want half a sandwich, you want a WHOLE sandwich. Then I get mad at myself for caving and (inevitably) eating the whole thing. Staying ahead of hunger does help this, but I'm not very good at eating 6-7 times a day.

I do agree that anything should be ok in moderation. Eventually. But, the reality is that if I want to lose weight, I need to keep my calories low and it just doesn't leave a lot of room for ice cream and cheetos. I can eat 100 calories a day (3tbs of premium ice cream or about 10 chips) or save up and splurge to the tune of 400 calories a little less than twice a week, without impacting weightloss. I'd generally rather have a couple of beers or a couple of glasses of wine so that means there just isn't too much room for crap. When I get to my goal weight, there will be more room. But, for now, indulging slows my weightloss. I'm ok with more like 1lb a week of weight loss, but lately I haven't even been there, so I do feel like there's still room to refine how much "indulgence" allow to creep in.

Courtney- don't feel like you're being pushy. The discourse is good!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 25, 2012, 11:17:01 PM
Made it through a family pizza party by eating ahead of time!
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Post by: Run Amok on February 25, 2012, 11:19:59 PM
Nice work Jamers! I'm about 50/50 in that scenario. I either eat anyway or skip it.

I had potato skins (scooped ALL of the middle out and the broiled with some parm and seasoning and topped with 2tbs of low fat sour cream and some green onions), 1 cup of  braise cabbage and 3 slices of field roast (it's seitan-like product). Sooooo tasty and around 300 calories for the whole plate.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 26, 2012, 06:56:48 AM
probably going out to eat today, but i have 20 miles planned for today, so it evens out, right????
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 26, 2012, 12:18:27 PM
... and up 1lb. I really shouldn't weigh every day...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 26, 2012, 12:39:46 PM
20 miles done. my running partner bailed on me, again. i cannot tell you the last time i ran with her, every weekend she bails! well, i mustered thru my run. whew.
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Post by: Ice Cream on February 26, 2012, 12:44:25 PM
Binging isn't really my issue, but I've definitely hidden food from dh. He teases me mercilessly about what I eat (I know he thinks it's in good fun... but it bugs me) so if I buy candy, it lives in my car. I'll eat a piece or two on my drive here or there. Then, of course, he finds all the wrappers...

Throw the wrappers out of the window while you drive. Far less harmful than having DH find out.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 26, 2012, 01:00:26 PM
Throw the wrappers out of the window while you drive. Far less harmful than having DH find out.  :)

 :D I know that post made him sound like a total asshole. I should probably delete it. I don't think he actually CARES how much candy I eat. I think he finds it very humorous. It's a moot point, since I no longer eat candy.  :P
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on February 26, 2012, 02:58:13 PM
OMG.  I made yogurt in the crockpot yesterday....it is incredible!  I can never find a small container of plain yogurt at the grocery store, so I bought Tillamook vanilla yogurt.  I've never had it before, and the vanilla flavor is incredibly strong.  It flavored up my whole batch of yogurt beautifully!  It is so thick that I don't really need to strain it, but I decided to strain it a little bit because it made more than I can really eat by myself and straining reduces the volume.  Oh, it's so good!  I did add about 1/2 cup sugar and a cup of powdered milk, and used about a half gallon of milk to make it.  Nom nom nom, it is so much better than ice cream.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 26, 2012, 04:57:43 PM
That sounds good nadra!

I had another cup of the braised cabbage with two fried eggs and a slice of ww toast for a breakfast & lunch combo. It was very yummy and filling. DH gave my blue eggs the  :skep: but kept his thoughts to himself.  :d
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 26, 2012, 05:06:09 PM
Had a wonderful day.  I'm already ahead of my March 1 goal, so I'm feeling content.  We had a fun time hiking, and despite a cold wind there were many signs of Spring.  There were geese on the lake, and very happy moss in the pond.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/MiniDriver066/IMG_0098.jpg)

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 26, 2012, 05:57:04 PM
WTG being ahead of your goal. Sounds like a great day! I just finished making veggie boullion and am about to start two pots of soup.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 26, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
OMG, it was the longest. day. ever. for me. We (me and my parents) took Reid and his cousin to the rodeo. It was fun, but my parents have no concept of keeping Reid and W on any kind of schedule, so by the time we finished at the rodeo, got lunch, got home, and I was able to get him down for a nap, it was an hour later than he normally goes down and he was hysterical. :nono: I was ready to strangle my parents and/or hit a gas station on the way home and eat my way up the interstate, but I didn't.

I did okay - Reid is staying with my parents for a few days so he and his cousin can spend some time together, so DH and I had a date night. Planned indulgence. Mmmmm. Delicious.

Courtney, I'd love to know more about those resources. And I want to write a thoughtful, coherent post in response to what you said, but I've had half a bottle of wine, so I'm going to save thoughtful coherence for tomorrow.

*yawn*
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Post by: Bolloxd on February 26, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
Got 4 miles in today, plus abs & push ups.  I have been eating so much homemade bread (rolls and loaves) lately, along with olive tapenade, homemade pizza, soup, ice cream....probably more over the last day or so I've forgotten about.  Lots of cooking has been going on so DH is happy.

I've been having issues getting my butt to bed early at night.  Like now, I should be in bed but there is mindless tv on and I'm just too tired to get up....maybe since the kids are getting in bed later I'm missing that extra time to myself in the evening.  Poor excuse really.

nadra - the yogurt sounds yummy!
deb- delayed/disrupted naps are rough on everyone.  I feel your pain.
Mini - yay for being ahead on the March goal!
RA - at least your DH has learned to keep his mouth shut about your food.  :D
meri - 20 miles?!  That's awesome!  Especially after being left on your own.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 27, 2012, 12:02:16 AM
OMG, it was the longest. day. ever. for me. We (me and my parents) took Reid and his cousin to the rodeo. It was fun, but my parents have no concept of keeping Reid and W on any kind of schedule, so by the time we finished at the rodeo, got lunch, got home, and I was able to get him down for a nap, it was an hour later than he normally goes down and he was hysterical. :nono: I was ready to strangle my parents and/or hit a gas station on the way home and eat my way up the interstate, but I didn't.

I did okay - Reid is staying with my parents for a few days so he and his cousin can spend some time together, so DH and I had a date night. Planned indulgence. Mmmmm. Delicious.

Courtney, I'd love to know more about those resources. And I want to write a thoughtful, coherent post in response to what you said, but I've had half a bottle of wine, so I'm going to save thoughtful coherence for tomorrow.

*yawn*

Wine makes everyone more thoughtful & coherent.  :D 

Here are a few resources...  I'll list the title & author for those who were interested :)

Eat, Drink and Be Mindful (workbook) and Eating Mindfully, Susan Albers
50 ways to sooth yourself without food, Susan Albers

Anatomy of a Food Addiction , Anne Katherine

Crave - Why you binge eat and how to stop, Cynthia M. Bulik

Food:  The Good Girl's Drug, How to stop using food to control your feelings, Sunny Sea Gold

The Compassionate Mind Guide to Ending Overeating, Ken Goss

The Binge Eating & Compulsive Overeating Workbook, Carolyn Coker Ross

The Woman in the Mirror, How to stop confusing what you look like with who you are, Cynthia M. Bulik
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 27, 2012, 08:38:48 AM
Good morning all.  4 good miles this morning.  I've signed up for a 5k in March with a friend as motivation and its working!  Haven't weighed myself yet, so not sure how much ground I lost.  Healthy eating today, yogurt, spinach smoothie, not sure about dinner yet.   :preen:
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 27, 2012, 08:56:37 AM
All the blueberries and mangoes I've been eating this weekend are giving me the squirts.   :(  Good thing they're almost gone so my digestive tract can get back to normal.

DH is starting a new work schedule today, 10pm - 6 am.  It will be a weird transition week.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 27, 2012, 09:03:18 AM
Morning everyone  :luvcoffee:
Yesterday was good overall. Step class was awesome, got set up on how to do my binding on the quilt and then cleaned house for Sunday dinner. I managed to stay reasonable with portion sizes etc, but was still pretty full when I went to bed.

Today my plan is to eat only what I bring to work...a green salad, left over brown and wild rice pilaf, and an apple w pb. I will head up for my morning run before work in a few minutes. I am getting my hair trimmed tonight after work. yay.
When I made my appt I was thinking I really didn't need one yet, and then all last week it became apparent that my appointment was not a moment too soon!
 :lambie:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 27, 2012, 09:13:59 AM
Lots of good work this weekend guys! As for me... Dear scale: eff you! Eff you! Eff you!

Up 3 from my Saturday low. Wtf?  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: The Turtle Whisperer on February 27, 2012, 09:24:16 AM
Still eating clean, just not burning enough calories..  Got to get back to some consistency. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 27, 2012, 09:30:18 AM
Mouse; Usually the day I have a hair appt is the day my hair looks the best.
Yuck on the 10-6 Mini :(
RA, salt, period, or you were dehydrated and are now hydrated. Do not let the scale ruin your day.

Wow Courtney, some list.
I'd like a condensed version, I am too busy doing fun stuff in my free time to sit and analyze why I pig out :)

I didn't get home from a Geocaching adventure till 9:30 and stayed up till the end of the Oscars, so didn't manage my 5:30 AM wake up today.
No biggie, I allow myself at least one day off a week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 27, 2012, 10:37:10 AM
Mouse; Usually the day I have a hair appt is the day my hair looks the best.
Yuck on the 10-6 Mini :(
RA, salt, period, or you were dehydrated and are now hydrated. Do not let the scale ruin your day.

Wow Courtney, some list.
I'd like a condensed version, I am too busy doing fun stuff in my free time to sit and analyze why I pig out :)

I didn't get home from a Geocaching adventure till 9:30 and stayed up till the end of the Oscars, so didn't manage my 5:30 AM wake up today.
No biggie, I allow myself at least one day off a week.
Heh, if I read some of them, I'll share! 

Today I have a good plan for eating, including a snack after my workout, before I go to Walmart.  Which is important, otherwise I will come home with enough Easter Candy to kill us both. 

I have a short 30 min planned, followed by my personal trainer session today.  Wednesday is spin & yoga.  I need to work in 2 more runs and one more weight session. 
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Post by: Run Amok on February 27, 2012, 10:58:24 AM
I have started logging my calories again today. I just can't figure out why things aren't going my way. In aggregate, it doesn't seem like my splurges should be enough to stick me at this weight for going on 3 weeks now. The good news is that I don't particularly feel tempted to "cheat" because the food is genearlly satisfying enough.

But, I'm getting on a plane to st john at the end of march. I'd really hoped to be in a new decade by then. Doesn't look likely to happen now.  :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 27, 2012, 11:20:32 AM
RA, logging is a great idea. EVERYTHING gets logged, even the little bites that don't count. What you eat in private shows in public.
And good for you sticking with it. That is our big downfall. We set goals and if we don't reach them in the time we allotted we give up.
WE are in too much of a hurry. I think that our bodies know best. Even though I didn't lose for a lot of weeks, people started saying I looked thinner, they could see it in my face. I think maybe our bodies are readjusting to the loss, redistributing.
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Post by: Jamers86 on February 27, 2012, 11:21:29 AM
Spin class this morning was a workout that makes me crave a rest day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 27, 2012, 11:33:04 AM
I just added to my log the 9 biscotti (4 cookies = 125 calories).  I was just going to have one.  Then I decided it would taste better with coffee.  The the coffee was a bit lonely after the first cookie was eaten.  I went back to the box 4 times, each time swearing it was the last.  It's sitting about 8 feet away from me, laughing.

Every day has new challenges.  Sigh.
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Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 11:41:10 AM
The scale this morning was back down to where I was before I slipped last week. Yay, progress! Now I just have to keep things moving that direction. I'm trying to think of good non-food rewards for 5-lb losses. Pedicures are all I've been able to come up with.

Courtney, thanks for that list!
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Post by: Courtney on February 27, 2012, 11:51:39 AM
Massage
New pair of shoes
New workout clothes
new case for your phone
bag/clutch from wyrillco creations ;0 :D
new waterbottle
yoga mat
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 12:08:05 PM
I like the bag idea best! :D

Massage will probably be for my first mini-goal. Workout clothes are a necessity, not a reward, to me, at least. The other ideas are good, too. Shoes would be another good one for a mini-goal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 27, 2012, 12:12:42 PM
RA, logging is a great idea. EVERYTHING gets logged, even the little bites that don't count. What you eat in private shows in public.

Yeah, that's why I'm logging again. There must be something I'm eating that I'm not registering as many calories as it is. I'm following a specific eating plan. I no longer look at it to make sure I"m on plan- but at this point I know what portion sizes should look like, etc. I'm really not one to sneak in little cheats here and there. Like, not ever. Like, not even a tsp of sugar or a bite of dd's cookie. My only real explaination is the times that I go out to dinner, have a beer, whatever. But- we're not talking about several times a week full, fledged, binges. They seem like things I should be able to fit into my life. That's what's frusterating about it. I'm starting to log again because, like I said, I'm starting to get paranoid that I'm missing some giant calorie suck that's putting me WAY over on a daily basis withou noticing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 12:18:07 PM
Logging works, but I'm really bad at it. :)

Actually, that's not totally true. I'm good at logging breakfast and lunch, because I can do those here at work. I'm bad about dinner, because DH gets pissy if I get up and log dinner, because it means 5-10 minutes where he has to deal with Reid alone.  :eyeroll: And he says he wants to help and support me.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 27, 2012, 12:46:24 PM
 :grr: that's crappy debba. Seriously. What I do is log everything I'm going to eat for the day ahead of time (while I eat breakfast in the morning). Then, I go back in later in the day/the next morning and change things according to what I actually ate. I like spark people because you can create food "groups" of things you typically eat together. So, I eat the i-diet cereal breakfast almost every morning (4 prunes, 1/3cup of fiber cereal, 3tbs granola, 1/2 cup milk) and so I just add that group to my tracker. Same for lunches and snacks and even most dinners. Most of my dressings are 60-70 calories/2tbs- so I just log them all at the 70 calorie level to make it easier on myself.

The only other thing I can really think of is that I haven't been that dilligent about measuring out veggies. They aren't "free" on this diet. She usually builds in like 2 cups plus 2 cups of salad. I have been treating them as free. But... I can't imagine that eating a few extra peppers at lunch is making me stall.
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Post by: hally on February 27, 2012, 01:33:49 PM
RA, just stick with it. I don't think that anyone got fat from eating too many peppers, or broccoli.

Debba, smack him upside his head for me the asshat!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 01:51:44 PM
RA, I don't know how tall you are, how much you weigh now, or how much you want to weigh, and it's absolutely none of my business, but if you're sure your goals are realistic, then keep at it - it sounds like you're doing all the right things. Sometimes your body just plateaus while it adjusts to reality, I think.

As for DH, he means well and I think he truly does want to support me, but he doesn't always realize that means he has to buck up sometimes and let me do things that mean he's going to have to fly solo with Reid for a bit. I'm working on him and he'll get there eventually. Last night he finally admitted that he needs to lose weight, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 02:34:49 PM
Debba-- atleast your DH does not feed you fried potatoes and then laugh!!!!!!!  :bat:

went to the zoo today. ate my stupid salad. and apple. and grapes. i am famished. go figure  :eyeroll:
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Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
I'd kick his ass and he knows it. He also knows I'm capable of it. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 02:50:33 PM
good for you!! my DH totally does not get my food issues. i also was fat before i met him so he missed that. i have been on the heavier side of "recommended" weight with him, but not in my highest weights by any means. i just steamed up a big bowl of broccoli, yum  :P
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 03:20:29 PM
DH doesn't necessarily get my food issues, but he knows I'm trying and struggling with losing weight. He wouldn't ever feed me something and then laugh at me for eating it. He also doesn't understand that giving me 10 minutes to track my food is helping me be successful and whining about me taking that 10 minutes greatly diminishes his chances of me letting him see me nekkid.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 03:24:16 PM
he sometimes seems to get it, but i think he truly does not understand how hard it is for me and how unhappy i am at my weight. I think it is even harder because i am not overweight, but 15lbs higher than i would like to be (atleast). For my height (5'8") the range of weight is HUGE for "recommended" weight, but i am really comfortable at a certain weight. i am really motivated though with Badwater and hope that motivation continues. Unfortunately, i would love to discuss this with my therapist, but 45 minutes goes fast and weight issues is one of the last on my list, LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 03:34:56 PM
Yeah, DH doesn't really get it, either. Last time he did WW, he dropped the weight in a flash. Now, he's gained it all back (and then some), but doesn't seem willing to give up the second helpings or the Guinness. So there's not much I can do except keep my focus and start dragging my ass out of bed in the mornings so I can work out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 03:40:39 PM
my DH can eat whatever he wants (and that can include mega binges) and not gain a pound  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 03:58:50 PM
This is not the case for DH, as evidenced by his belly. That said, when he focuses, he sheds the weight much more easily than I do, the jackass.  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 04:10:38 PM
This is not the case for DH, as evidenced by his belly. That said, when he focuses, he sheds the weight much more easily than I do, the jackass.  :fiery:
well, my Dh can be really skinny, or less skinny, but if he wants to lose weight, he thinks about it and drops pounds, wtf?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 04:15:12 PM
Hell, if I could manage that, I'd have been skinny years ago.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 04:35:54 PM
Hell, if I could manage that, I'd have been skinny years ago.
you and me both :D :D :D

my running partner just lost a bunch of weight by not eating ice cream after dinner, seriously? that is it???? how much was she eating?? LOL!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 04:54:26 PM
I have to admit (sheepishly) that I dropped several pounds in the first week after I gave up junk food and sodas. I was thrilled, but also appalled.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 04:56:09 PM
I have to admit (sheepishly) that I dropped several pounds in the first week after I gave up junk food and sodas. I was thrilled, but also appalled.
this was probably 10-12 lbs over the course of a couple months!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 05:11:07 PM
Um, if you eat, say, a pint of ice cream every night? That's half your WW points for the day, in a lot of cases.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 05:15:48 PM
Um, if you eat, say, a pint of ice cream every night? That's half your WW points for the day, in a lot of cases.
i cannot imagine she ate THAT much of her daily calories in ice cream, but maybe? i can also see her not getting low fat ice cream or froyo, but to drop weight just for that? HOLY COW !
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 05:18:40 PM
Ohhhh, it's totally possible.

:sneaking:
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Post by: Run Amok on February 27, 2012, 05:25:58 PM
I have to admit (sheepishly) that I dropped several pounds in the first week after I gave up junk food and sodas. I was thrilled, but also appalled.

Well... a lot of that is going to be water weight when you think about how much sugar/salt/carbs you're walking away from.
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Post by: debbatx on February 27, 2012, 05:29:52 PM
Oh, I know. But I was also cutting a ridiculous amount of calories, too.
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Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 06:06:42 PM
i guess she is an ice cream lover like i used to be. when i was in college, i used to eat it for breakfast because i went to work at 5am and i deserved ice cream for breakfast  :-\
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Post by: hally on February 27, 2012, 07:08:32 PM
Want to know what is REALLY annoying? My own brother, same parents has been skinny his whole life. Like you can see his ribs skinny. His motto is there is no such thing as too much ice cream. And he doesn't work out besides Yoga anymore.  GRRRRRRRRR

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Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 07:24:45 PM
My father is like your brother and my brother was like that until his mid twenties
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Post by: hally on February 27, 2012, 07:39:04 PM
Well I'm 55 and bro is 3 years older so I don't think he's getting fat anytime soon  :-\
He also only eats when he's hungry
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Post by: merigayle on February 27, 2012, 07:51:44 PM
If DH ate when he was hungry, he would never eat!!! i am the opposite. when am i not hungry?????? i want dessert but not sure what. prob will have a toffutti cutie.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 27, 2012, 08:10:54 PM
So, I logged what would be a typical day for me today (really, truly) and I came in at about 1k calories. Sometimes I might have another snack, which would put me at 1100 or 1200. I do know this is on the low side. But... I also know there is variation in foods themselves and also that, though I try and be good about measuring- sometimes a little bit extra sneaks in. It does make me feel better to know that I am not somehow sneaking too many calories back into my normal diet.

So, there's that. But, then I wanted to know just how much damage I did last week as far as being splurgy went. That's the reall story, right? So... between the unplanned beers & mozz sticks earlier in the week and then 2 hard ciders saturday night... I ate about 1500 extra calories this week. So, assuming I didn't go over my 1200 calories/day any other days- that puts me at about 1400 calories/day which is just under where I would need to be to maintain at my height. And... there we have it. Mystery solved. That is probably about representative of the past several weeks, which explains why I've barely lost since the end of the WLC.

So, I guess I will just continue to hang out in this holding pattern until losing weight is once again more important than beers with friends. I'm not gonna say it wasn't worth it.

Oh...and... this week is gonna be another tough one. Dinner at this  amazing little local place planned on wednesday. Tomorrow night dd's class is doing some project that involves cooking dinner for the parents.  :skep: I don't want to go. I don't want to eat the food. I don't want this to be a splurge. The things we do for our kids, right?

Oh, in other news... I finally measured how tall I am today, for the first time as an adult. I am 5'4.5". A full 2.5" taller than I thought. So, I'm less chubby than I thought. Woohoo!
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Post by: Courtney on February 27, 2012, 08:38:20 PM
RA, I recently found out that I'm almost 2 inches taller than I thought, too! 
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Post by: witchypoo on February 27, 2012, 08:39:50 PM
RA, I recently found out that I'm almost 2 inches taller than I thought, too! 

4'11"?
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Post by: Bolloxd on February 27, 2012, 09:51:38 PM
Ohhh, I want to be 2 inches taller too!  But, the last time I measured myself I was shorter than I thought....I don't want to know if I've shrunk anymore or not.

I made some 'healthy' cookies today.  They turned out OK, at least DH will eat them.  I'm just not a huge cookie eater (even though I've just had some oreos).  We took some chicken pasta bake over to see my newest niece this evening.  She slept the whole time we were there except maybe 10 minutes before we left.  Still it was fun holding a fresh baby again.

Busy day planned for tomorrow.  The twins have their 2 year well child visit and shots in the morning. :nono:  With their current crazy antics I just know it will be exhausting.  Then I'm hoping to get a run in during their nap, or have a nap myself.  I also want to do more baking - I've become obsessed. 
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Post by: Courtney on February 27, 2012, 10:12:44 PM
4'11"?

You so funny. 

:D

DH didn't believe me.  He thought i was totally making it up, until my brother measured me on the back of my mom's door at Xmas!
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Post by: Run Amok on February 27, 2012, 10:27:35 PM
It's funny because my mom seemed much shorter than I remember. But, maybe I've grown since I last saw her (I was 21 or 22). The first thing she did was ask me how tall she was, then tell me she was shrinking.  :skep: She is now 5'5" so just a little taller than me. My whole life she always said she was 5'7".
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Post by: merigayle on February 28, 2012, 08:35:59 AM
i am up 3 lbs, i am hoping it was from the chinese food sunday night  :fiery:
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 28, 2012, 08:52:40 AM
Still got the squirts, which is making me feel hungry/thirsty/draggy.  And I woke up this morning to discover that only 2 weeks after the last one, my period started this morning.   >:(  Getting old sucks.  I'm really going to have to push to get to my goal weight before menopause kicks in, because I'm pretty certain my metabolism's gonna plummet. 

Didn't do zumba last night because DH was still sleeping, getting ready for his first day 10-6.  He got home about 6:45 this morning and was asleep before I left for work.  So I'm hoping he'll be up and out of the way by the time I get home or I'll have to get another tv for downstairs and hook the wii up to it.

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Post by: seattlegirl on February 28, 2012, 09:21:42 AM
Fiber cereal with a bit of granola topped with vanilla soymilk, and a side of prunes for breakfast.  (sorry Mini, don't think too hard about this breakfast)   In 2.5 more pounds, I'll be down 10 from when I started in late Jan.

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Post by: Run Amok on February 28, 2012, 09:49:17 AM
SG, that is awesome! How was your day?
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Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 09:57:34 AM
Went out for dinner last night and I enjoyed every last damn bite of that macaroni and cheese I had. Was it the "best" choice? No, but that restaurant's mac and cheese is to die for and I don't get it very often. And since Reid wasn't there, trying to steal my food, I got to savor it, and I did. Mmmmm.... carbs and dairy.

Gym tonight. Also have to go to the grocery store after work because there's nothing to eat at the house right now. Having to go to the gym after will keep me on track - no one wants me to barf on the gym floor, least of all me. I'll be setting two alarms tonight so I can get up in the morning and run. I'm seriously tired of being lazy, but one alarm isn't cutting it. I need the terror that the second alarm is going to go off and wake up Reid to get me out of bed, I think.
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Post by: Jamers86 on February 28, 2012, 10:46:25 AM
Hanging in there!  This weekend will be tough so I'm trying to prepare.
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Post by: Jamers86 on February 28, 2012, 10:59:22 AM
Can I request help?  What would you eat here (the dinner menu in the left).


 http://www.doolittlesrestaurants.com/dinnermenu.html
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 11:05:20 AM
Knowing me, I'd probably end up with a burger, but I suspect that's not the kind of help you want. :) Probably salad or the pasta with veggies. If the seafood is good, that might be a good option, too, but I don't eat seafood, so I can't advise you there.
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Post by: caito on February 28, 2012, 11:30:07 AM
Can I request help?  What would you eat here (the dinner menu in the left).


 http://www.doolittlesrestaurants.com/dinnermenu.html (http://www.doolittlesrestaurants.com/dinnermenu.html)

Yum!   

Mediterranean salad, dressing on the side.
Grilled salmon (but becareful with the mashed potatoes, likely full of butter and cream)
or
the filet of beef tenderloin.  Yum....

Or cobb salad w/dressing ont he side but who wants salad with all that meat on the menu?

The seared ahi tuna sandwich looks awesome.  I might not eat the whole roll though.

Or get a salad and the tenderloin skewer appetizer.  And maybe the soup of the day will not be cream-based! 
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Post by: Run Amok on February 28, 2012, 11:30:19 AM
Well, a steak and a side of veggies is a fine option. Half of the smallest steak is a fine size. Skip the potatoes or ask for salad instead.

The half a roast chicken (again, watch portion size, although even if you over eat on the chicken, you're still fine) and veggies. No potatoes. No gravy. Or get them and eat only a few bites.

The mama's farfalle & chicken looks like it could be good without the cream sauce. Try and leave some/most of the pasta on the plate. 2 tbs of parmesan cheese doesn't add too many calories.

Grilled salmon- ditto above on potatoes. But... it's probably farmed so I wouldn't order it just for that reason. The sea bass could be ok without the butter. But, I don't know what "australian sea bass" is and I'd be leary of it just for that reason. If it's farmed baramundi- this is actually a good choice for sustainability. If it's toothfish...notsomuch. You could ask... although the server might look at you like you have 3 heads.

If you could be happy with a salad- the stacked salad looks good. Dressing on the side or just ask for a couple of lime wedges instead of dressing. If the tortilla part is strips that are cut & fried- skip them.

Roasted pear & chicken- try and leave some blue cheese & walnuts on the plate. Skip the dressing.

Or... know you've done a fantastic job and you can hop right back on the wagon the next meal. Order whatever you like and stop eating before you are stuffed. Call it your splurge for the week and move on.


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Post by: Run Amok on February 28, 2012, 11:30:52 AM
Or, what caito said!
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Post by: Jamers86 on February 28, 2012, 11:33:53 AM
My top pick based on taste alone would be the Mediterranean Flatbread.... My gut reaction is that it is better than a burger or even salmon (since I could never resist the mashed potatoes).  Thoughts?

Med Salad is my second choice.
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Post by: caito on February 28, 2012, 11:36:09 AM
Get the Med Flatbread and a small salad.  Perfect!   If the flatbread is really big, take some home.
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Post by: Jamers86 on February 28, 2012, 11:38:00 AM
Appreciating the input!

Part of the issue is I have a work happy hour at 9 that same night.  Plus I'm going out with the parents and inlaws-to-be on Saturday, with a wedding shower on Sunday.  If it were one challenging night, I wouldn't really care.

 I'm hitting the gym extra hard this week!
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Post by: merigayle on February 28, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
hmmm. any of the salads with the dressing on the side and no cheese. the flatbread, is that like a flat bread pizza? I would just make sure there is no oil drizzled on it, etc.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 28, 2012, 11:43:12 AM
Yep, I think the med flatbread is a fine choice.

Is there some point where you need to stop losing weight before the wedding so that the dress fits on your big day?
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Post by: Jamers86 on February 28, 2012, 12:10:05 PM
I'm trying to maintain starting April 1.

I was worried because I haven't been a consistent size for a month in my entire adult life.  I talked to the lady doing my alterations, and she said that's normal.  She laughed and said almost all brides have a 5-pound fluctuation in the last 2 weeks due to stress.

Honestly, I don't care whether I lose another pound.  But I dont know how to do that (yet) so I'm staying in "on" mode.
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Post by: teetime on February 28, 2012, 12:10:21 PM
The seared ahi tuna sandwich looks awesome.  I might not eat the whole roll though.

Open faced so you eat half the roll or less if it isn't delicious (good bread worth every calorie, bad bread not worth even one) and ask for a big side of the veggies.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 28, 2012, 12:23:20 PM
Jamers- do you have a target for a maintain weight yet? I have a little table in the book I'm working out of. I'd be happy to look it up for you when I get home, if you like. :)
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Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 02:08:41 PM
I really, really, really want to go down to the vending machines and get something. I won't do it, I just thought I'd mention it.
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Post by: Run Amok on February 28, 2012, 02:13:10 PM
I'm sitting here dreaming of ben & jerry's. I have to pick up drycleaning today and the scoop shop is next door to the dry cleaner.  :'( I'm not really an "ice cream person" but I swear the put crack in that stuff or something! So, I hear ya debba.
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Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 02:17:12 PM
Yeah, Ben & Jerry's PB Cup is a weakness for me. And I'll have to walk right past it this afternoon at the grocery store. I'm having some major cravings right now and I just finished lunch, so it's not because I'm actually hungry.
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Post by: merigayle on February 28, 2012, 03:01:46 PM
so between the 3lb gain on the scale and getting dressed for work today, i feel really fat. trying not to eat myself thru it, i came to work with a hugeazz salad, three apples and a bowl of grapes. i doubt i will eat three apples, but just in case......... i get really bitter and frustrated. argh.
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Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 03:07:30 PM
Yep, me too. I want to eat what I *want* to eat, dammit, not what I have to eat!
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Post by: Courtney on February 28, 2012, 03:35:08 PM
Yeah, Ben & Jerry's PB Cup is a weakness for me. And I'll have to walk right past it this afternoon at the grocery store. I'm having some major cravings right now and I just finished lunch, so it's not because I'm actually hungry.

Is it an honest to god craving for that specific food, or is it something else?  Like, "I don't want to do X, so I'll eat ice cream instead." or "my life is so fucking crazy right now that it would be so nice to sit down and check out completely, which is perfect with ice cream?"

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Post by: merigayle on February 28, 2012, 03:44:23 PM
Yep, me too. I want to eat what I *want* to eat, dammit, not what I have to eat!
yep. as much as i love fruits and veggies, it sucks. i want to eat sandwiches.
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Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 03:45:49 PM
Oh, at the moment it's because I thought I was going to have to run to Target at lunch (I decided I'd rather read my book), which meant (in my head) that I was going to get candy (in addition to the hair stuff I need, which is the REAL reason to go), so that got me craving sweets. DH forgot to put a spoon in my lunch, so I can't eat my yogurt, which normally helps with that craving. I do have some clementines in my bag - I'll munch on those here in a bit, I think.

And sometimes, yeah, it is an honest to God, IMUSTHAVEPEANUTBUTTER craving.
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Post by: Bolloxd on February 28, 2012, 04:20:03 PM
Well that visit to the Dr with the kids turned out worse than expected.  They are both fine and healthy but David cried then entire 1.5 hours....over every little thing possible.  He also wrestled with me and the Dr through the check up.  Thank goodness Rachel was cooperative for the most part. 

R was up and in our bed awake for about 2 hours last night so DH and I were both tired from little sleep.

All that plus my small dinner last night and no breakfast made it a tough day.  Will push my running to tomorrow instead.

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Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 04:24:11 PM
An hour and a half for a checkup?  :yikes: I'd cry, too! Poor David. And poor Bolloxd and Mr. Bolloxd.
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Post by: Courtney on February 28, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
Oh, at the moment it's because I thought I was going to have to run to Target at lunch (I decided I'd rather read my book), which meant (in my head) that I was going to get candy (in addition to the hair stuff I need, which is the REAL reason to go), so that got me craving sweets. DH forgot to put a spoon in my lunch, so I can't eat my yogurt, which normally helps with that craving. I do have some clementines in my bag - I'll munch on those here in a bit, I think.

And sometimes, yeah, it is an honest to God, IMUSTHAVEPEANUTBUTTER craving.

I totally hear ya on the PB craving :D 

And isn't it amazing how old habits (getting candy at target) get so ingrained?  That it's the first thing we think about when we are going to do that thing (go to target). 

I have been putting off a trip to target/walmart for that same reason.  We are going to run out of toilet paper soon, tho, so it's gotta happen! 
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Post by: harmony on February 28, 2012, 04:27:10 PM
Off day for me today, long day on site.  But still trying for healthy.  Yogurt breakfast, salad lunch, dinner will be roasted vegetables over couscous.  I thought I had some curry sauce in the freezer but it turned out to be some sort of soup, I think, so DH will probably add something creative since he's in charge of assembly tonight.  They're not fixing the water line to the fridge here so I have a serious lack of ice and filtered water going on which makes the whole DFW even more trying for me. 
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Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 04:37:01 PM
Yeah, that's precisely the habit I'm trying to break - the I'm going to Target for hair stuff and somehow I walk out with hair stuff, a giant bag of Skittles, something chocolate-related, a soda, and possibly chips.  :nono:
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Post by: harmony on February 28, 2012, 04:38:36 PM
Target is evil, especially their selection of dark chocolate.  With all sorts of neat stuff inside. 
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Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 04:48:06 PM
Didn't need to know that!
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Post by: Courtney on February 28, 2012, 05:42:42 PM
Didn't need to know that!

:D

I'm actually going to pick up a bar of dark choclate with sea salt (seriously, this shit is delicious) to bring to work to share with my boss.  Dark chocolate is far less binge-inducing for me than milk chocolate for some reason.  I reallllllly love this dark chocolate/sea salt stuff, tho. 
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Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
 :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

Did not need to know that!!!!!
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Post by: Courtney on February 28, 2012, 05:49:18 PM
:panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

Did not need to know that!!!!!

Sorry!!  I really meant it to be reassuring.  Like it's hard to binge on this stuff....

As an unrelated note, I rejoined WW, since it's really a preferred way (for me) of keeping track of stuff.  I'm going to try a recipe for Orange Chicken this week, from WW/Hungry Girl.  It looks pretty good, and we frickin' LOVE Orange Chicken from Panda Express.  I'm going to pair it with stir fry veggies and maybe some rice for DH (I hate rice). 
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Post by: nadra24 on February 28, 2012, 06:00:39 PM
New weight loss plan: chances are good that I'm going to have to get my tonsils out soon.  That should be good for a few lbs of weight loss!   :!:  :P
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Post by: Courtney on February 28, 2012, 06:13:24 PM
New weight loss plan: chances are good that I'm going to have to get my tonsils out soon.  That should be good for a few lbs of weight loss!   :!:  :P

Oh shit!!

If it were me, I'd be the only person in the world to gain weight in that instance from the ice cream I'd eat.  :D

I've opted not to go to target.  I don't feel a ton of confidence about not leaving there with 2 lbs of jelly beans and 14 reese's easter eggs. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on February 28, 2012, 06:39:19 PM
Ok so I bought a monthly pass for WW yesterday. Looks like I can only go on the weekends so Sat it is.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 28, 2012, 07:45:19 PM
:D

I'm actually going to pick up a bar of dark choclate with sea salt (seriously, this shit is delicious) to bring to work to share with my boss.  Dark chocolate is far less binge-inducing for me than milk chocolate for some reason.  I reallllllly love this dark chocolate/sea salt stuff, tho. 

Yes.. In the i diet book they recommend it over milk chocolate.. The bitter taste of it doesn't leave you craving more.. yet is satisfies the urge.. I melt a few squares over fiber cereal and eat it as a dessert and yet I don't find myself craving more when I do that.
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Post by: merigayle on February 28, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
DH and DD bought a bag of cookies made at a non profit place down the road. trying REALLY hard to not eat them. I made banana "froyo" for dessert and mixed in some choc soy milk and cocoa powder, it was really good. I felt like i had a pretty good day, even though i ate DD's bread's crust :D how can i resist? she was throwing it out! the crust is the best part!! (crusty french bread)
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Post by: bensmom243 on February 28, 2012, 08:43:56 PM
I totally hear ya on the PB craving :D 

And isn't it amazing how old habits (getting candy at target) get so ingrained?  That it's the first thing we think about when we are going to do that thing (go to target). 

I have been putting off a trip to target/walmart for that same reason.  We are going to run out of toilet paper soon, tho, so it's gotta happen! 

I know for me the grocery store/target is a total minefield when I am trying to lose weight, way too many chances to make a bad choice.  This time of year is horrible with all of the pretty pastel chocolaty yumminess.  I have started ordering my groceries online, I don't think I always get the sale price, but I get exactly what I need and nothing more.  You can order toilet paper on amazon!
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Post by: Courtney on February 28, 2012, 09:51:19 PM
I know for me the grocery store/target is a total minefield when I am trying to lose weight, way too many chances to make a bad choice.  This time of year is horrible with all of the pretty pastel chocolaty yumminess.  I have started ordering my groceries online, I don't think I always get the sale price, but I get exactly what I need and nothing more.  You can order toilet paper on amazon!

Those damn pastel chocolates and bright colored jelly beans are like crack to me.  I can't resist them in the store, or once they are in my hot little hands. 

A trip to target today was not in the books.  Instead I ate a good snack, and came home and sewed.  I finished up an order and then cooked a healthy dinner.  Spaghetti.  Mmmmm.  I need to go to the grocery store and/or target at some point soon, to get some fresh produce (& toilet paper!), so we'll see how that goes. 
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Post by: Bolloxd on February 28, 2012, 10:19:14 PM
I was in Target earlier today, picked up a bag of Starburst jelly beans.  Then I remembered the last time I got some they were not as good as expected so I put them back....but wow they've got such pretty chocolate and candy in that store!  I wound up with no candy because DH was waiting with the kids in the car.

Wholewheat pasta with lemon-pepper zuchinni for dinner.  It was good but I'm still hungry...gonna try to get an early-for-me night to avoid eating junk food.

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Post by: seattlegirl on February 28, 2012, 10:34:23 PM
Well, I started out well - good breakfast, planned AM snack, good lunch... then things got busy and I couldn't have my PM snack, so I came home starving and ate too much.   :fiery:

Tomorrow is another day.
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Post by: debbatx on February 28, 2012, 10:37:00 PM
DH got home earlier than expected, so he did the grocery run. Hallelujah, I was feeling week. Had a big-ass cobb salad for dinner and got my butt kicked at the gym. All in all, not a bad day. Plan for tomorrow is get up and do SOMETHING, eat well, come home. No idea on dinner right now.
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Post by: MiniDriver on February 29, 2012, 08:55:28 AM
YAY debba for a good day!

Yay bolluxd for putting back the jelly beans!

Yay to seattle remembering ya gotta eat!

Yay MM getting back to WW!

Welcome bensmom!

I survive the grocery store by sticking to the outside lanes and sticking to my list.  The only aisles I go into are the bread/frozen veggie aisle and the beans/soup aisle. 

Damn Cadbury and their mini-eggs!  Those things are calling to me, and I haven't even glimpsed a bag in the store yet.  But I know they're there.   :(

I saw a commercial for a local athletic club that really annoyed me.  In a "candid interview with a customer", she claimed to have lost 50 pounds, going from a size 14 to a size 2.  Baloney!  I usually lose a clothing size every 15-20 pounds, so 50 pounds at that level would maybe take me from a 14 to a 10.  Even if she lost a size every 10 pounds, she'd still be a size 4 after losing 50.  Unless that 14 was REALLY baggy and she was really a size 10 to start - or that size 2 is really a vanity sized 8.   She looked like a 6-8 to me.   Unrealistic expectations don't help anyone. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 29, 2012, 10:14:35 AM
Oh, blah, I hate stuff like those commercials, Mini. They're just ridiculous. And she probably lost it all in, what, a month or something?  :eyeroll:

I didn't manage to get out of bed this morning. *sigh* Oh well. Onward. Waffles for breakfast, the usual for lunch. We're going out somewhere for dinner - don't know where yet - but I should be okay. My muscles are clinging to every last drop of DFW they can today after last night's workout, but that's okay. Muscle is good.

I do the same thing at the grocery store, Mini - and usually DH and Reid are there with me, so it's tough to sneak in junk food. Last night I'd have had to go alone, though, after a long day at work, right around dinner time or just after a workout. Hello there, setup for failure!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on February 29, 2012, 10:24:22 AM
WTG on rejoining WW Court and MM. I love the plan this time as opposed to the last time I tried it when they were pushing all their own products. Now they push fresh foods so much more. I think it's a plan you can stick to for life and it works if you follow it. Nothing is forbidden, it's about making choices. Plus I love the iPhone etools app and bar code scanner.

Hi bensmom, welcome.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: harmony on February 29, 2012, 11:10:34 AM
Strength everyone in this time of bountiful chocolate.  I find that a little dark chocolate satisfies.  Like Courtney said I don't binge on it but do enjoy.  Woke up at 3:30 this morning, so I got up and put in four hours of work.  then 4 treadmill miles actually energized me, I thought I'd quit but didn't.  2 more hours of work and I'm nearly done for the day.  This is not my normal, but it's interesting.  Yogurt breakfast, spinach smoothie lunch, polenta with roasted grapes for dinner.  I'll spend the afternoon with a bit more work and be ahead of the game for a change.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 29, 2012, 11:27:51 AM
Wednesdays are really hard for me to get a workout in. I am going to talk to my neighbor about joining forces on Wednesdays and either her and her DD come over while we work out (i have a stepper and a TM) and her DD (who is 7) occupies mine, or we enlist her DH or our neighbors to watch the girls while we do the 5 mile loop in our 'hood. Yesterday I did well eating. i avoided the cookies. For breakfast i made a single serve banana bread muffin. I love these single serve recipes!!
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Post by: merigayle on February 29, 2012, 12:27:15 PM
omg i am so hungry today. is it yesterday catching up wtih me?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 29, 2012, 01:52:44 PM
Well, David isn't having a nap today it seems....at least not at the same time as Rachel.   Since DH is working that means my run will either be very late tonight or not at all.  Gah.

I finished off the baked oatmeal this morning.  Curry and naan is planned for dinner. 


I know it isn't typical weight loss with those commercials (isn't all marketing exaggerated?), but saying that... my biggest size shorts were a 14 last summer.  Granted it wasn't a tight 14, but still.... I only lost 30lbs and am in size 2 now.  It is most likely a combo of several things, not just exercise.  I know some med changes influenced my loss, along with running, better eating, etc.

Right, not much time to post.... little people to chase.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 29, 2012, 01:55:50 PM
It's also body type. Even at my goal weight, there's no way in hell I'll ever be a 2.
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Post by: merigayle on February 29, 2012, 02:08:53 PM
at my thinnest i could squeeze into some 4's, but i am 5'8" and not tiny boned.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 29, 2012, 02:13:29 PM
i ate my lunch, an apple and a bowl of grapes. i am still hungry. may eat an apple on my way to pick DD up at school and try to avoid the Panera box.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 29, 2012, 02:23:20 PM
PB&J, pretzels, and an apple for lunch. I still have my yogurt, too, and some tomatoes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 29, 2012, 03:41:46 PM
Yo! 

Subway for lunch.  It's free cookie day.  So I got one to split with my co-worker.  :) 

Tonight is date night for DH and I.  We are going to this bar, and the food is good bar food.  Which means not healthy.  I'll probably go for a grilled chicken sandwich and my "splurge" will be some fried pickles.  I would cut a bitch for some fried pickles. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on February 29, 2012, 03:48:55 PM
Body type plays a big part.  I'm lucky to be small boned....that trick with wrapping your fingers around your wrist?  I don't know how to explain it but I can get my fingers around 1.5 times....if that makes sense.  Hopefully that won't cause any problems with bone loss or osteoporosis as I get older.

So, David finally crashed but there isn't enough time (or motivation) to run.  The naan bread making took much longer than expected and the house is full of smoke...ahem.

AND I'm upset over Davy Jones!!  Damn it!!



Oh I like that saying Courtney, lol.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 29, 2012, 03:50:42 PM
Yo! 

Subway for lunch.  It's free cookie day.  So I got one to split with my co-worker.  :) 

Tonight is date night for DH and I.  We are going to this bar, and the food is good bar food.  Which means not healthy.  I'll probably go for a grilled chicken sandwich and my "splurge" will be some fried pickles. I would cut a bitch for some fried pickles. 

Who wouldn't?

Yeah, we're having another date night tonight, since Reid is still with my parents. It's looking like a nicer Italian place. Not sure what I'll get yet, but it will be delicious.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on February 29, 2012, 03:57:22 PM
You guys eat out a lot!   We went to a restaurant weekend before last, but I can't remember the time before that.  My birthday?  Our anniversary? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on February 29, 2012, 03:59:10 PM
We don't usually eat out this much, but Reid's not here. We're like drunks on Bourbon Street on Fat Tuesday right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 29, 2012, 04:23:52 PM
We do tend to eat out more than we should.  We try to make it more places like Subway (for cost & health)...  but we've decided that date night is a weekly deal.  It will be good for us.  We used to ride to and from work together every day, and we did a lot of our talking about our day, life, etc on the way home.  Since I switched jobs, I think we are both missing that, so we decided to dedicate some time to it.  :)  And if we say we'll do it at home, we just never get to it! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 29, 2012, 04:41:46 PM
I'm having a good day so far. I had the i-diet version of oatmeal (50/50 oatmeal/wheatbran) for breakfast. That tided me over 'til lunch. Lentil soup + string cheese + and orange + several mini sweet peppers. I am planning 1/2 cup of greek yogurt + fiber cereal for snack. Meeting a friend for dinner. Planning to skip wine. But possibly going to have dessert. NOTHING on the menu is healthy. Not even modifiably so. I would show you the menu but they don't have a website. It's not going to be a good night. But, I'm just going to call it a splurge, realize it will set me back a bit, and move on.

Lastnight was dd's school dinner thing. It was fine. I had yogurt & cereal before leaving so was pretty full when I walked in the door. I tried a few bites of everything (including the chocolate lava cakes dd made). The scale was down a tiny bit this morning.

I do end up eating out a lot. Usually at least 2 meals/week. I've definitely cut back... but it is part of my life. It's my biggest weakness. I do fine at home.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 29, 2012, 04:55:17 PM
we eat out about every 6-12 weeks.

i am making a dal kotfa recipe i made last week. i calculated it on sparkpeople's recipe calculator and it was 230 cals/servings, it tastes a lot more incredible than that!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 29, 2012, 05:02:29 PM
ooh! Post the recipe!

This is a favorite of mine: http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/red-lentil-kofte-with-tomato-cucumber-salad (http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/red-lentil-kofte-with-tomato-cucumber-salad)
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Post by: merigayle on February 29, 2012, 06:22:13 PM
http://www.veggienumnum.com/2010/09/dal-kofta/ (http://www.veggienumnum.com/2010/09/dal-kofta/)


ugh, i had no tomato paste, just strained tomatoes, so i hope it is as good as it was last week. my neighbors, both of them, neither of them had tomato paste!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 29, 2012, 08:06:40 PM
My bl contest ends Monday.. I'm down 11 lbs and hoping to take a few more off between now and Monday but we shall see..

I'm being proactive with my weekend, my son is coming home for break Friday night and usually he has 3 places he likes to go.. burger place (with fries) pizza place and sushi... I do not want to go out this weekend before my Monday weigh in so I got potstickers at TJ's, he loves those and TJ's pizza dough and fixings for pizza so he can make that.. between that and reasonable healthy food he should be satisfied through the weekend.. I think I am taking Tues and Weds off with him so I will eat what I want those days and we can do burgers and sushi.. then Thur and Fri he's going off with his friends.. so food won't be an issue for those days.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 29, 2012, 08:10:08 PM
Wow! 11lbs is fantastic! Especiallywhen you consider how much muscle you've been building over the same time period. Fantastic work!

thanks Meri- I'll have to give that a try.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 29, 2012, 08:10:58 PM
Good job, MoS! and good plan of attack on the weekend :)

can i just comment that since the beginning of the year, I have lost 3-4 lbs. That is it. I am really getting annoyed. I feel like i am starving all the time. if i eat one more big bowl of steamed broccoli for nothing, i will cry! if i was seeing some change, i would not care, i'd eat it happily, but to not see any change, is really frustrating and i am still many pounds above my weight from the summer.  :(thanks for letting me bitch.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on February 29, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
So TGIFridays has skillet meals for home. Yum, and only 480 cals.

At work yesterday I was having a massive chocolate craving, so I bought a pack of Slimfast meal bars.  Yuck, yuck, yuck.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 29, 2012, 08:41:47 PM
Good job, MoS! and good plan of attack on the weekend :)

can i just comment that since the beginning of the year, I have lost 3-4 lbs. That is it. I am really getting annoyed. I feel like i am starving all the time. if i eat one more big bowl of steamed broccoli for nothing, i will cry! if i was seeing some change, i would not care, i'd eat it happily, but to not see any change, is really frustrating and i am still many pounds above my weight from the summer.  :(thanks for letting me bitch.

I dunno.. If all I ate for lunch was an apple and a bowl of grapes I'd be famished!  Are you sure you are eating enough?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 01, 2012, 07:31:24 AM
I am eating about 1300-1400 calories a day. That was in addition to my grapes. I decided to nix my mini little baked goodness of breakfasts and go for something like tofu scramble, eliminate the minimal amount of sugar and whole wheat flour. I dunno. I am really at a loss and my weight is still up and i at like 3lbs lost since the new year, actually, the week before New year's. And I am 20lbs above where i was before i started TTC (i did gain 9 lbs before getting pregnant).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 01, 2012, 08:56:44 AM
{{Meri}}  That must be so frustrating!  Is there a way you can shake things up a bit?  I find by switching up my exercise routine or incorporating new foods into my diet, I can get out of a plateau.  Our bodies crave a steady state, so doing the same thing often results in the scale not budging.

I'm starting a 90-day Get Ready for Summer Plan - who's in?  I'm not doing much different than I am now, I'm just using the 90 days a motivator to keep on track and stay away from the cracklike Cadbury mini-eggs.  Three months doesn't seem like much, and I know it will go by in a flash.    I want to be at or close to my goal weight at the end of the 90 days and/or June 1.   

The scale was up a tick this morning, probably because I'm over the digestive problems I was having earlier this week.  Sleet kept me from biking to work  :(, but after this mild and dry winter I can't really complain.

Three people have commented on my shoulders - pushups and pullups are really working!  And I haven't even transitioned to knee pushups yet - that's next week.  Still on kitchen sink pushups for another few days, and still doing lateral pulls.  I'm not nearly ready to transition to Aussie pullups yet.  But I'm really impressed with how these two fairly simple exercises have made a difference in my shoulders, back, and abs. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 01, 2012, 09:01:11 AM
trying to incorporate more strength training and higher intensity in my runs. not sure what else to do in the limited time i have. i am hoping some changes with the morning bfast will help. we'll see. try it for a couple weeks and go from there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 01, 2012, 10:05:12 AM
I'M IN, MINI!!!!!!!

And good Lord, I should have stayed away from the scale this morning. OMG. DH and I went mildly nuts last night - I didn't do horribly, but I didn't make ideal choices, either. Still, there is no.possible.way. that I gained FOUR POUNDS overnight. No way.

At the same time, I'm *incredibly* sore from my gym workout the other night. Like, everything below my boobs hurts. I'm reasonably sure that a good chunk of that weight is water that my body is clinging to. It's still incredibly discouraging.

I have GOT to start getting up in the mornings. I have to. *sigh*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 01, 2012, 10:05:49 AM
That must be so incredibly frusterating Meri. I wish I had some advice to give you.

So- dinner last night was amazing. It's this itty bitty little place (8 seats). She was sold out of the thing I wanted to order so she made me something not on the menu. It was moong dal with coconut curry and potatoes and spicy! Incredibly luscious. Served with rice and roasted veggies. Normally, I haven't been taking leftovers home but I just couldn't leave this there. So, I'm looking forward to round two at lunch. I did have a little custard tart after dinner. Also amazing. The tough part will not be calling for takeout once a week or so.  :o

Enjoying my i-diet hot cereal for breakfast. Ok, not really. But, I'm out of milk for the cold cereal option. It's ok, not something I'd choose- but ok. Meri, you tried using oat bran once, right? Did that help with statiety? The wheat bran does, but the texture is not great.

I didn't get on the scale today.

Debba- could it be hormonal at all? You didn't gain 4lbs overnight, you're right- it's water.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 01, 2012, 10:14:54 AM
It could be hormonal, but I don't think so. I'm seriously so sore from my workout that coughing hurts my abs and it hurts to walk. He kicked my ever-loving ass on Tuesday night. I need that kind of ass-kicking, though, so I'll just have to hang tight until my body figures it out. It's just frustrating and disheartening to see that number on the scale.

In the meantime, more DFW!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 01, 2012, 10:37:51 AM
RA that sounds delicious! I felt hormonal a couple days ago, but nothing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 01, 2012, 11:55:30 AM
Meri, I am also losing verrrry slowly however I am not at all hungry. I think if I ate less I would lose but would I stick with it?
I am more happy about the fact that there was a fresh pecan ring from the bakery this morning at work and I didn't even look at it. Well I looked, but didn't even think about taking a piece. OK, I thought about it fleetingly but said NO. This is huge, if I can continue the weight will come, it's not a race.

Maybe you need a different approach?
WW Simply Filling is a non point counting similar to their core.
You can have all the fruits, veggies (including potatoes, peas and corn) beans, grains, low fat protein sources and non fat dairy that you want till you feel full.
Plus two teaspoons of healthy oil a day.
Anything other then that you have to count, you get 49 points for the week for that stuff.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 01, 2012, 01:09:35 PM
If i ate like that, i would get fat. That pretty much sums up my diet for the past years!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 01, 2012, 02:13:02 PM
Oh, FFS. I just called and got the results from my annual and bloodwork (nevermind that I should have had them on the patient results line weeks ago, but whatever) and my damn triglycerides are borderline high. Everything else is perfect.

I HAVE TO WORK OUT.
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 01, 2012, 02:53:58 PM
If i ate like that, i would get fat. That pretty much sums up my diet for the past years!

Yes, I couldn't eat like that and lose weight.  I have gained weight eating like that.  All calories count, even fruits, veggies, and whole grains.   My fill sensor is so screwed up I would never be able to stop. 

Debba, good bloodwork is good!  Were you hoping for a kick in the pants? And yes, you do have to work out because it's good for you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 01, 2012, 03:22:07 PM
No, everything is great *except* my triglycerides. They're on the high side. Not "Oh my God you're going to spontaneously combust" high, but higher than they should be. Over the "normal" range. I need this to be my wake-up call, but I'm totally scared that nothing will induce me to get my lazy ass out of bed so I can finally get on the right track. And DH's response was, "We'll keep cooking at home, no big deal."

 :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 01, 2012, 03:29:53 PM
yes, fruit and veggies (and especially whole grains!) have calories!!

i am going to be really good about logging on my Lost It! app, not in my head, and so far for the day:

tofu scramble 200 cals
raspberries, 1/2 cup 32 cal
dal korma (1/2 serving) 167 cal
brown rice 1/4 cup 55 cals
spinach 5 cups 34 calories
pepper (red bell) 1 cup 29 cals
1 carrot 25 cals
dressing- 38 calories
2 apples 189 calories
4 cups of broccoli (not all at once) 124 calories
grapes 1.5 cups 92 calories


this adds up to 984 calories for a bunch of fruits and veggies!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 01, 2012, 03:31:36 PM
No, everything is great *except* my triglycerides. They're on the high side. Not "Oh my God you're going to spontaneously combust" high, but higher than they should be. Over the "normal" range. I need this to be my wake-up call, but I'm totally scared that nothing will induce me to get my lazy ass out of bed so I can finally get on the right track. And DH's response was, "We'll keep cooking at home, no big deal."

 :sigh:
you'll get there! i wish we lived close by so you could bring the kid over and we could let them play while we worked out! LOL


oh and on another note, i started today drinking dried daikon tea. It is a chinese medicine remedy for weight loss. it is nasty ass stuff (imo) and is stinking up my office, but seriously now, i am DESPERATE!!!!!!!!!!!!

and one last thing... i weighed myself after my run and i was at a better weight that this morning (and that was after breakfast, 2 cups broccoli, 2 apples and about 35 oz water! LOL!) I am hoping all my bitching and moaning gets the scale to budge :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 01, 2012, 03:36:12 PM
The WW Simply Filling plan is a good one, but the trick is to stop eating when you feel full, not stuffed. I never quite managed that, so I count points. :) And yes, fruits and veggies have calories, but, as a meetings leader once said, "Y'all, no one is in this room because you ate too many carrots."
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 01, 2012, 03:41:15 PM
The WW Simply Filling plan is a good one, but the trick is to stop eating when you feel full, not stuffed. I never quite managed that, so I count points. :) And yes, fruits and veggies have calories, but, as a meetings leader once said, "Y'all, no one is in this room because you ate too many carrots."
except me!!! i ate so many carrots, on more than one occassion, i turned orange.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 01, 2012, 03:42:22 PM
LMAO! I'd never be able to eat that many carrots. The texture gets to me after a few.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 01, 2012, 03:50:21 PM
LMAO! I'd never be able to eat that many carrots. The texture gets to me after a few.
not me! especially lightly steamed. I went to my old nutritionist once and he was like, omg! my hands and feet were ORANGE! And sadly enough, that was not the first or the last time.......
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 01, 2012, 04:10:19 PM
I don't mind them steamed, but raw.... *shudder* I can only have a few. I developed a texture aversion to them when I was pregnant and ever since...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 01, 2012, 04:42:42 PM
I am the worst at eating veggies.... I *want* to like them, and generally I can handle a few...but I am not very good at prepping them for dinner.  Salad is the most likely way for me to get veggies.  I did put some spinach into a smoothie this morning to try it out.  I was surprised that I couldn't taste it.  It is good for the kids too, because I don't want my veggie issues to influence them.

So, I managed to FINALLY get my run done.  4.4 miles at a quicker pace than usual.  Push ups are done with abs yet to do.  Wouldn't ya know it, right as I got on the treadmill I started my period.  Perfect timing! Grr....but I ran anyway.  I guess that explains my chocolate urges lately.

Mini - I have found the push ups make a great difference in a relatively short amount of time.  I don't have much muscle compared to the average person but for me the difference has been huge.  I can throw things better/farther too.  :D

Deb - at least the rest of the blood work was good, right?  Would you rather change your eating/exercising habits or end up taking medication that may have bad side effects??
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 01, 2012, 04:44:11 PM
Geez Meri,
I think you are obsessing by weighing more then once a day.
Eat more rice! A quarter cup? Who eats a quarter cup? No wonder you are starving, you have nothing filling in there!
And yes, fruits and veggies have calories, but I think I wouldn't worry about spinach, and peppers and even the broccoli. Anything that isn't high sugar or starch.
Give yourself a break, don't count those kinds of veggies. And add more grains.

Try it for a week. You have your whole life one week isn't going to make a difference.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 01, 2012, 04:55:43 PM
Geez Meri,
I think you are obsessing by weighing more then once a day.
Eat more rice! A quarter cup? Who eats a quarter cup? No wonder you are starving, you have nothing filling in there!
And yes, fruits and veggies have calories, but I think I wouldn't worry about spinach, and peppers and even the broccoli. Anything that isn't high sugar or starch.
Give yourself a break, don't count those kinds of veggies. And add more grains.

Try it for a week. You have your whole life one week isn't going to make a difference.

i generally weigh only once or twice a week, i was naked and in the bathroom, so i hopped on while the shower warmed up :D

But in general, my diet, which is vegan, includes a lot of whole grains, so basically the big change i have made is eating much less whole grains. i had 1/4 cup because i had 1/2 serving of the food. if i add more grains, i will gain weight. i just cannot figure out the magic combination for me. if i did not log and pay mind to my calories, i can easily get to 1800 calories mostly in fruits and vegetables.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 01, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
Bolloxd, believe me, I'm grateful that everything else on my tests looked great. VERY grateful. And I can likely get that number back down into the normal range, but I *have* to lose the weight to do it. Problem is, when the alarm goes off, I don't give a rat's ass about my triglyceride levels. I just want to go back to sleeeeeeep.  :sleep:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 01, 2012, 07:42:02 PM
i generally weigh only once or twice a week, i was naked and in the bathroom, so i hopped on while the shower warmed up :D

But in general, my diet, which is vegan, includes a lot of whole grains, so basically the big change i have made is eating much less whole grains. i had 1/4 cup because i had 1/2 serving of the food. if i add more grains, i will gain weight. i just cannot figure out the magic combination for me. if i did not log and pay mind to my calories, i can easily get to 1800 calories mostly in fruits and vegetables.

I can understand how frustrating this is. And plus you run! And these people at my meetings are like oh I lost 5 pounds this week! But I guess they were eating so much crap their having almost a cleanse.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 01, 2012, 07:48:36 PM
I can understand how frustrating this is. And plus you run! And these people at my meetings are like oh I lost 5 pounds this week! But I guess they were eating so much crap their having almost a cleanse.
yes when i went to WW with my former roommate in grad school, WW was SOOOOOOO drastically different that she dropped weight fast and i lost very very very slowly.

ugh, so DH is online and is like "I think you have hypothyroidism" i am like, dude, i have been tested a million times, i do not think so. I was tested when DD was 2 months old because i was not losing the pregnancy weight fast enough, imo. And of course it is always fine.

I had delicious polenta lasagna for dinner with my spinach salad that i never got around to eating for lunch. now is the hard part- avoiding dessert...... and avoiding the crust of DD's crusty delicious bread. http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2007/02/polenta-lasagna-with-portabellas-and.html (http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2007/02/polenta-lasagna-with-portabellas-and.html) i made mine with homemade polenta, in a lasagna dish, and lots of extra mushrooms and spinach instead of kale. it is really yummy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 01, 2012, 08:16:20 PM
OMG that looks really good!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 01, 2012, 10:35:21 PM
Meri- what about pcos or something like that? Insulin resisance? I'm sure you've explored all of that kind of stuff...

So, I was at costco tonight and they had a cute dress and some slacks for good prices ($15 each). I got them all in a 6, hoping they'd fit, and they do! I was between a 8/10 when I started (8's too tight, 10's a bit loose). I tried on a bunch of my suits tonight too. All of them are a bit loose. Which is weird. I know I was lighter than I am now when I purchased them.

So, if I end up stuck at a size 6, I can live with that. I'd really prefer to be a 2 or 4 though. We'll see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on March 01, 2012, 11:27:52 PM
I lose weight super slowly, too.

I tried for (most) of February and lost 3 pounds.

I'm almost wearing the size I'd like to wear. I can fit into the super sized vanity versions now!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 01, 2012, 11:30:52 PM
I'm almost wearing the size I'd like to wear. I can fit into the super sized vanity versions now!

 :D I can almost fit into my favorite pair of slacks. I can zip 'em, but it sure isn't pretty!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 02, 2012, 07:54:51 AM
89 days to June 1 - Scale hasn't moved since yesterday, but no biggie.  I'm starving today, which usually means the scale will twitch down tomorrow. 

My lesson for the day is we can't compare our experience.  We lose weight at different rates.  We have different "normal" weights.  We fit into different clothing sizes at the same weight.  I need to stop looking at other women and thinking I should be like that.

I saw a woman a few days ago wearing black skinny jeans tucked into boots.  I thought "I will never be that woman.  My thighs will never be thin enough for skinny jeans."  And for a moment that made me sad.  But then I thought, "I have my own style.  She probably has her own body shape issues - that sweater is probably covering for her tummy/waist issues.  She might look at me and envy my waist." 

Have a great day everyone!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2012, 08:07:21 AM
I do not think i have PCOS, i have no symptoms of it and had no problem getting pregnant on the first cycle we tried. I will give it a few more weeks and maybe talk to the dr. i am just hoping that it will catch up and i will see a loss on the scale.

good job on the pants!

yes, the polenta lasagna was really good, i made it last week and this week.
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Post by: Jamers86 on March 02, 2012, 08:55:21 AM
Restaurant night last night went well!  The flatbread was amazing, I skipped the wine, and nibbled a bit on some apps without losing control.

I didn't feel deprived, got a chance to socialize, and didn't cross into the "screw it, I'm eating everything in sight!" trap.

Thanks all!

Mini, I'm in for The 90 Day as well!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 02, 2012, 10:22:49 AM
Meri, just another random thought - are you sure you're eating enough to fuel your training?

I'm down a bit from yesterday, but also had another ass-kicking at the gym last night. I fully expect the number on the scale to be ugly tomorrow morning for my official weigh-in. At the same time, I know there is no possible way that I gained 4 pounds literally overnight, and that my body is clinging to every drop of water it can while my muscles recover from the exercise. Therefore, I expect that in a couple of weeks, I'll drop like 7 pounds and then stall out.  :eyeroll:

While I have a LOT to lose, my initial goal is 20 pounds. I want to start trying for a second kid sooner rather than later, but want to lose 20 first. If I can do that in 90 days, great. If not, I'd really like to lose that by our vacation in July.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2012, 10:26:29 AM
Meri, just another random thought - are you sure you're eating enough to fuel your training?

if i eat more i gain. 1400-1600 i maintain, 1800, i start to gain.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 02, 2012, 10:45:45 AM
Fair enough. I just know you're training for Badwater, so it occurred to me that you might need just a bit more to fuel those runs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 02, 2012, 11:05:43 AM
Whew! I finally found y'all! Well, a few days ago... I've been catching up for like 3 days (from page 16!!) Goodness....looks like a lot of great successes in here, too!! Congrats to everyone for sticking to it (even when you just don't wanna...)

A few comments on stuff I can recall-
First, I am grateful that I don't crave junk food too much. Grocery shopping, even when hungry, is not a problem. I don't know what I would have done all these years if so, since I lived alone (ie no one to go for me!) I like the suggestion of staying around the outside. I go down aisles for cereal and canned tomatoes and stuff. Otherwise, I just don't go down the "tempting" aisles like soda or candy.

Meri- as a fellow veg (but not vegan), I'm wondering if maybe you need to focus on adding more protein. It is a constant struggle for me, especially since many of my go-to sources like fake meat products I'm now avoiding (too much sodium). I eat cheese everyday, but I know that isn't vegan. What about more legumes? And probably a variety of them? I also find that protein shakes/drinks help a lot- are there vegan ones you can make (with vegan protein powder)? I would recommend greek yogurt + fruit + protein powder cos that is a protein bomb for me! But you don't eat yogurt... What about seitan? I bought some the other day to try. Also gardein and quorn are both non-soy (ie, something different from your tofu protein?) I know I couldn't get by on daily steamed veggies. My brain and my stomach would be BORED. Ooh! What about quinoa? That's protein/grain. Would be easy to work into lots of stuff, too. I think there is quinoa flour, too, that could be used for making those single serving muffins maybe? And, I lose weight so very slowly. 1 lb/wk is the best I can do and not be hungry/tired from not eating (+exercise). I gained a couple of pounds in the week and a half that Stuart was visiting over Christmas/NY. And yeah, I'm *just* now getting back down to my pre-visit weight! I've been religious about counting cals and running/working out, too. I've even cut out a lot of my worst junk foods like wine/beer.

Re- eating out... I hardly ever eat out. I've been doing so more now that I live at home (my parents tend to go out for lunch on Saturdays. I join them about once/month).  I know it's fun to do with friends, etc, but I guess I'm lucky to have friends who don't have time for going out (kids/DH, etc.) ;) I really find that I have a very hard time making the best choices when I go out (esp if there's alcohol there... which there usually is). And I have no control over my food preparation. So something that might seem like a good choice (even steamed veggies) could be bad if they add a lot of salt and butter or something. Plus, it's expensive (for me at least), so budget wise I just can't really eat out much. Maybe those who go out for date nights could choose a non-food activity? Movies with a stop at a coffee place after to discuss? Walking in the neighborhood or park?

Of course, this weekend is going to be challenging for me! Tomorrow night, we're going to my favorite local restaurant for my birthday dinner. I'm scared! :P I do have a 5k in the morning at least. That will equal about 2 glasses of the wine I plan to drink. And my knee is jacked up (since last weekend). I've been taking rest days in between and stretching more, but it hurts, even with icing/ibu. I really don't want to be out for the count with my half marathon coming up on Apr. 22. Running is really the only cardio I can do, since the gym schedule and my work/commuting schedule don't mesh (I'd have to wait around at least 2 hours after work, just to be able to go to spin or zumba in the evenings.)

On a positive note, the Jillian Michael's workouts have been fantabulous! I'm loving them. :) My butt/thighs are in a constant state of sore from all the squats, though! Tomorrow, I will finish week 2 workouts! Next week, I get to move on to workouts 3 and 4! Is it weird that i'm really excited about that? lol

Well, hope you all are having a great day! I'm happy to have found you all. Sorry for the long post. There was a lot to catch up on! :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2012, 11:05:59 AM
Fair enough. I just know you're training for Badwater, so it occurred to me that you might need just a bit more to fuel those runs.
for my long run days i do eat 2500-3000 calories that day (20+ miles)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2012, 11:08:51 AM
i am having a hard time with protein for bfast, but made tofu scramble this week. For lunch yesterday i had dal kofta (lentil balls) and for dinner a polenta made with a silken tofu sauce. I do eat quinoa here and there, i made a great thai fried quinoa a couple weeks ago. i do not eat fake meats and i hate fake yogurts and milks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2012, 11:19:36 AM
oh and i did have 1/2 serving of nuts last night.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 02, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
Yeah, I'm just thinking that maybe you need to redistribute those 14-1600 cals and focus on more nutrient/protein rich foods. Broccoli every day isn't enough nutrient variety.... Even looking at it from a week long perspective (vs day to day cals/nutrients). I try to make sure I get some of lots of different foods and food types every week. And I agree on fake cheese! ICK! But almond milk (plain unsweetened!) is oh so yummmmmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
Yeah, I'm just thinking that maybe you need to redistribute those 14-1600 cals and focus on more nutrient/protein rich foods. Broccoli every day isn't enough nutrient variety.... Even looking at it from a week long perspective (vs day to day cals/nutrients). I try to make sure I get some of lots of different foods and food types every week. And I agree on fake cheese! ICK! But almond milk (plain unsweetened!) is oh so yummmmmmm.
i only like the dark choc silk almond milk, so i do not buy it :D it is good though!

Maybe. I am just soooo hungry, no matter how much i eat, that i just feel like i need to fill myself with something like broccoli. Next week I may make the WW zero point veg soup instead.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on March 02, 2012, 12:04:51 PM
89 days to June 1 - Scale hasn't moved since yesterday, but no biggie.  I'm starving today, which usually means the scale will twitch down tomorrow. 

My lesson for the day is we can't compare our experience.  We lose weight at different rates.  We have different "normal" weights.  We fit into different clothing sizes at the same weight.  I need to stop looking at other women and thinking I should be like that.

I saw a woman a few days ago wearing black skinny jeans tucked into boots.  I thought "I will never be that woman.  My thighs will never be thin enough for skinny jeans."  And for a moment that made me sad.  But then I thought, "I have my own style.  She probably has her own body shape issues - that sweater is probably covering for her tummy/waist issues.  She might look at me and envy my waist." 

Have a great day everyone!


So true, Mini.

I am constantly checking out other women and envying their physiques. And the whole size thing... it's worse than the number on the scale, I swear. I'd kill to be a size other women abhor, and so on.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 02, 2012, 12:07:34 PM
I find that if I'm not very, very careful to balance things... I'm starving. Meri, I would struggle with the way you eat. It's not an indictment, and I know you're very committed to it... I'm not going to try and talk you into a different way of eating. I know you have a strategy you've used in the past that worked well for you. I find that not all protein is equal in its ability to fill me up. Tofu really doesn't do it for me. Not sure why. I *like* tofu, it just doesn't have the fill and stay power that other sources do. Yogurt, eggs, and seitan seem to be the best for me. There is a local company that makes seitan products called "field roast" that are particularly filling- I think because they are high in protein but also have some fat as well. I do find that a little bit of legumes (1/4-1/2 cup) paired with something higher volume usually is pretty filling for me. But, it's all about balance.

Last night's 300 calorie meal (and very filling!) was 1 cup/85 cal of braised cabbage (the flannel cabbage recipe from the i-diet book) with 1 fied roast sausage (190 calories) & 1 tsp of olive oil.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 02, 2012, 12:13:44 PM
Meri, what if you spread out the calories you eat on your long run days so that you're averaging a little more each day?

And Lanarkshire, yay! Glad you found us!!! My trainer seems to be on a Jillian-like kick lately. I spent an hour last night doing baby burpees (didn't drop all the way to the floor) and squats.  :nono: Trying very hard to not throw the baby out with the bathwater and convince myself to get up and run in the morning, even though I didn't get any runs in this week.

So true, Mini.

I am constantly checking out other women and envying their physiques. And the whole size thing... it's worse than the number on the scale, I swear. I'd kill to be a size other women abhor, and so on.


And this. SO MUCH this. I cannot fathom some of the numbers y'all throw around as your starting weights, because those are my GOAL numbers. At the same time, I'm a bit taller than a lot of you, I think, so I try really, really hard to remember that!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2012, 12:27:25 PM
maybe i will pick up some seitan this weekend. i only eat so much on my long run days because i am FAMISHED and some of those calories are during the run. i cannot imagine upping the calories, because at 1400-1600 i maintain, at 1800 i will gain weight. I cannot fit more workouts in my schedule right now, but hopefully soon, adn will adjust for that. I am also hoping to wean DD at the end of the month.  :fingers: that is the last thing I can think of and i am so done with nursing at this point.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 02, 2012, 12:41:23 PM
What about tempeh? I've actually never been able to bring myself to eat it but I know lots of people really like it. I don't really consider that "fake meat" either.


This stuff is essentially seitan but it is flavored and spiced up quite deliciously. My big objection to most fake meat products is that they taste too reminiscent of meat- not somethign I'm interested in. What I like about these is that they don't taste like meat... they are just yummy. I also like that they don't have a bunch of weird stuff on the ingredient list.

Ingredients: Vital wheat
gluten, filtered water, expeller
pressed safflower oil, red
wine, eggplant, onions, naturally
flavored yeast extract,
garlic, barley malt, dried red
bell pepper, fennel seed,
granulated garlic, spices and
sea salt.

I buy the "sausages" and the deli slices. They are everywhere here but you might look in your health food store. Our costco started selling their products recently.
http://www.fieldroast.com/products/ (http://www.fieldroast.com/products/)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 02, 2012, 01:40:16 PM

And this. SO MUCH this. I cannot fathom some of the numbers y'all throw around as your starting weights, because those are my GOAL numbers.

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I bought some "skinny" jeans last night.  I wasn't sure that I could wear them, but I guess I can.  I like how they look.  I'm wearing them today! 

My weight is not budging, and while it's frustrating, I know I'm doing the right things.  I haven't binged all week.  I am tracking my WW points, and while I've gone a bit over every day, I do have weekly points to tap into PLUS activity points.   I try not to use both.  *sigh*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 02, 2012, 01:44:17 PM
Oh, I blasted through my weekly points (I still want to call them flex points, but whatever), but my APs saved me. I came in fine overall this week, but being so sore has wrought havoc on the scale.

I cannot fathom wearing skinny jeans. Good for you, Courtney!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2012, 02:18:44 PM
i think tempeh is just ok. i have to steam it first. i usually use it in stir fries. i think i will make some baked tofu for next week to snack on. I think I have seen the field roast at our natural food store. I also make a white bean salad that is like tuna salad, i should make that to snack on next week too. i just was not very prepared this week and can only really shop on Sundays, so it is tough.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 02, 2012, 02:23:41 PM
I hear ya! If I don't get everything I need for the week, I am floundering. I bought some hummus to try as a snack this week (4tbs is 70 calories + a bunch of cukes).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 02, 2012, 02:32:49 PM
Oh, I blasted through my weekly points (I still want to call them flex points, but whatever), but my APs saved me. I came in fine overall this week, but being so sore has wrought havoc on the scale.

I cannot fathom wearing skinny jeans. Good for you, Courtney!

Well, there is nothing skinny about them, other than the style :D  I've resisted even trying them on for a long time.  My super tiny boss wears them a lot, and they are so cute.  These look amazingly normal and good.  I don't know what I was expecting, but this is not it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 02, 2012, 02:54:56 PM
Yeah, I just.... can't bring myself to wear anything that tight-fitting. I just... why would I want to accentuate everything I don't like about myself?

In other news, I just turned down banana pudding. *whimper*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 02, 2012, 03:30:47 PM
Yeah, I just.... can't bring myself to wear anything that tight-fitting. I just... why would I want to accentuate everything I don't like about myself?

In other news, I just turned down banana pudding. *whimper*

I really don't think they are any tighter fitting than regular jeans, except in the calves.  I mean, all my regular jeans are fitted in the hip/thigh area (whether than are supposed to be or not is another story), this is just fitted the rest of the way down.  I am wearing a shirt that does come down a bit lower, just to kind of balance me out.  But if I couldn't see past my knees, I wouldn't know these jeans were different. 

If that made any sense at all...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 02, 2012, 03:50:58 PM
I don't think you have to be skinny to wear skinny jeans. I think they actually do look good on a variety of body shapes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 02, 2012, 03:58:36 PM
Hmmmmm. I think part of my problem is a lack of appropriate shirts for skinny jeans. And I'm not up for totally revamping my wardrobe right now. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 02, 2012, 04:12:17 PM
There aren't any calories in pumpkin seeds are there?  Just finished the first draft of our taxes and I needed something to munch on out of sheer frustration.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2012, 05:30:28 PM
i ate half a piece of toast left over from DD's bfast. I have zero self control :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 02, 2012, 05:45:57 PM
I don't think 1/2 piece of toast means you have zero self control, Meri. Can you make room in your diet for some 100% ww bread? I have been eating 1 slice of ww bread with 2tsp pb and 2tsp jam lately. Sometimes toasted, sometimes not. That + 1/2 grapefruit is actually a pretty decently filling snack (especiallly if I drink a big glass of water with it).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 02, 2012, 05:57:45 PM
Hmmmmm. I think part of my problem is a lack of appropriate shirts for skinny jeans. And I'm not up for totally revamping my wardrobe right now. :)

I hear ya! 

I hope to need to revamp much of my wardrobe in a couple months, but my mom is a seamstress and can take things in if needed.  Plus, when I lose weight, tops still fit because my boobs are never going to fucking shrink.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 02, 2012, 06:13:49 PM
I can't stop thinking about pizza for dinner. 

I'm checking nutritionals from Papa Murphy's, the take & bake place, but I don't really want to spend that many calories.  BOO. 

I could make it myself for less, I think. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2012, 06:20:21 PM
I don't think 1/2 piece of toast means you have zero self control, Meri. Can you make room in your diet for some 100% ww bread? I have been eating 1 slice of ww bread with 2tsp pb and 2tsp jam lately. Sometimes toasted, sometimes not. That + 1/2 grapefruit is actually a pretty decently filling snack (especiallly if I drink a big glass of water with it).
i could probably consider a slice of Ezekiel bread, i have some in the freezer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 02, 2012, 09:14:07 PM
We had pita pizzas for dinner.  Yum.  I actually weighed the cheese to make sure I wasn't going over the amount I was supposed to have.  It turned out I've been short changing myself on cheese!  NO MORE!  :D

I managed to survive a trip to the grocery store without coming home with a bag of Easter candy. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 03, 2012, 08:21:34 AM
I can't stop thinking about pizza for dinner. 

I'm checking nutritionals from Papa Murphy's, the take & bake place, but I don't really want to spend that many calories.  BOO. 

I could make it myself for less, I think. 

My son made homemade pizza last night and I ate some.. I was still down this morning.  I honestly don't think it was the slice of pizza here and there for dinner that made me fat, it was the not stopping at a slice or two and the slice I ate as a midnight snack and the one for breakfast... and the fries we ordered with the pizza.. oh and all the cheese and crackers in between..

Anyhow, I have my final weigh in for BL on Monday.  I do plan to keep it up because although I am down (hopefully more than 11 total on Monday) I am not where I want to be and I do feel that logging my food and even using that photo app, at least makes me mindful of what I am putting in my body...

My challenge today and tomorrow as that I have a horrible head cold.. I will try to go exercise, but it won't be as much as usual and also, when I have a head cold I tend to eat poorly.. veggies and healthy stuff don't seem to cut it for me.. I'm craving junk.. If I can jut make it through the next 3 days I am going to give myself a break for 3 or 4 days and then pick up strong after that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 03, 2012, 11:24:50 AM
MoS, I was telling someone about that photo/calories app the other day! I couldn't remember the name of it, though! Hope you feel better. I know you will rock that weigh in on Monday. :)

Courtney- good job on the will power! Just remember, it's the same candy available all year, just in different color wrappers or shapes. For some reason, I like the valentine's kisses cos they're in pink wrappers! But I tell myself, they're just kisses!

Of course, saying that... guess what arrived at my doorstep just now! My order of macarons. :P I promptly had 2 after my virtuous breakfast of steel cut oats. Oh well, this is my birthday weekend and I'll be going out tonight already. Tomorrow, I've got 10 miles planned with the zooma running group (if my knee holds up), so hopefully that will help balance things a little bit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 03, 2012, 12:17:59 PM
Back down to my weekly saturday morning low.  :eyeroll: At least I am consistent.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 03, 2012, 12:26:17 PM
MoS, I was telling someone about that photo/calories app the other day! I couldn't remember the name of it, though! Hope you feel better. I know you will rock that weigh in on Monday. :)

Courtney- good job on the will power! Just remember, it's the same candy available all year, just in different color wrappers or shapes. For some reason, I like the valentine's kisses cos they're in pink wrappers! But I tell myself, they're just kisses!

Of course, saying that... guess what arrived at my doorstep just now! My order of macarons. :P I promptly had 2 after my virtuous breakfast of steel cut oats. Oh well, this is my birthday weekend and I'll be going out tonight already. Tomorrow, I've got 10 miles planned with the zooma running group (if my knee holds up), so hopefully that will help balance things a little bit.

meal snap... it's by the people at daily burn
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 03, 2012, 07:22:26 PM
I had 2 eggs, a slice of toast and the last 1 cup portion of braised cabbage for breakfast (I know it sounds gross- but it's actually quite yummy!). 320 calories That kept me quite full until about 20 minutes ago when I realized I was STARVING. I made a disgusting looking smoothie (yogurt, wheat bran, frozen berries, frozen banana, water, spirulina, spinach)that tasted fine and is filling, but not very satisfying. It's dd's  night to choose dinner and she wants pizza. I'm not feeling terribly motivated to resist the temptation to eat pizza tonight. Tomorrow is the board meeting, at my house this time. I got a bunch of bake yourself goodies (croisants, choc croisants, mini cini buns, and blueberry scones), a melon, yogurt + I have a bunch of fresh berries and homemade granola to put out for breakfast. I was planning to make a pizza for lunch. Thus begins the march towards NEXT week's saturday low.  ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 03, 2012, 08:18:29 PM
I've not been motivated to exercise today... shame on me.  I have been cooking lots of things to freeze.  Pizza dough, calzones, and soup....plus a big cookie in my cast iron.   So good but not healthy.  DH will have most of it anyway.

I'm meeting my first CHer on Monday for lunch.  I'm nervous and excited!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 04, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Didn't do great yesterday, but didn't do horribly, either. Today will be better, since I don't have book club or plans to go out for dinner. :) Woke up with a raging headache this morning - it's either allergies or hormones, or, God help me, both. I didn't have *that* much wine yesterday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 04, 2012, 11:25:04 AM
Good morning.  :o

I am sorry I have been such a slacker and not posting.  I am feeling rather "unmotivated" and well..slackerish and I did not want to drag anyone with me. 
I won't bore anyone with details, but I am refocusing today on my portion control and "stick with it ness".
2 weeks till Maui.

I have been getting my exercise so that helps.  I am heading to step class in a little bit.


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on March 04, 2012, 12:26:49 PM
Mouse, I had the most fun step instructor in college!  Hope your class is good.

Run Amok, have you made the pizza crust in the I-diet book?  I bought wheat bran but haven't tried it yet.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 04, 2012, 01:37:37 PM
*sigh*

Yesterday was rough.  For the last few days I've been feeling some general low level anxiety and for me, that equals thoughts of binge eating.  I escaped the grocery store on Friday, somehow, but yesterday it got the best of me. 

While it wasn't a HORRIBLE 2 hour binge, it was definitely behavior that is harming me.  Up until last night, I had basically been able to stand back and observe the thoughts, think about what was going on, what I was looking for, etc.  I was kind of riding it out.  Then we were chatting last night, and DH was telling me about some stuff that my former coworkers are doing (he works at the place I used to work) and I was VERY bothered by it and couldn't stop thinking about it.  That is kind of what pushed me over the edge.  :(  I could see it clearly afterwards. 

UGH.  I essentially used all of my weekly points for WW yesterday.  I had a planned splurge earlier in the day, which in and of itself was totally fine.  But that on top of the evening activities,  :nono:

I'm sorry that I'm using you guys in place of my therapist!!  Since I changed insurance companies, she isn't in network, so I can only really swing seeing her once per month since I have to pay out of pocket now!  Feel free to gloss over my posts :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 04, 2012, 03:27:29 PM
*sigh*

Yesterday was rough.  For the last few days I've been feeling some general low level anxiety and for me, that equals thoughts of binge eating.  I escaped the grocery store on Friday, somehow, but yesterday it got the best of me. 

While it wasn't a HORRIBLE 2 hour binge, it was definitely behavior that is harming me.  Up until last night, I had basically been able to stand back and observe the thoughts, think about what was going on, what I was looking for, etc.  I was kind of riding it out.  Then we were chatting last night, and DH was telling me about some stuff that my former coworkers are doing (he works at the place I used to work) and I was VERY bothered by it and couldn't stop thinking about it.  That is kind of what pushed me over the edge.  :(  I could see it clearly afterwards. 

UGH.  I essentially used all of my weekly points for WW yesterday.  I had a planned splurge earlier in the day, which in and of itself was totally fine.  But that on top of the evening activities,  :nono:

I'm sorry that I'm using you guys in place of my therapist!!  Since I changed insurance companies, she isn't in network, so I can only really swing seeing her once per month since I have to pay out of pocket now!  Feel free to gloss over my posts :D

Aww.. don't let it get the best of you.  I am so tired of letting food and my looks control my life.. If you had a binge.. it doesn't make you a bad person and you recognize it.. The trick is recognizing it for what it is. move on and maybe next time you won't binge...

I posted a few weeks ago about driving with my daughter and getting lost and the stress that ensued over the directions/mapquest etc... I felt a physical feeling coming over my body, that I can only assume is what an alcoholic feels when they get the urge to drink.. If I had been home, I would have eaten.. I was in the car and no food..

I am an overeater as much as an alcoholic is a drinker.. You can cut alcohol out of your life completely (and I realize this is not so easy for an alcoholic) but you can not stop food totally, so imo, it's so much harder to try to control.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 04, 2012, 05:39:50 PM
(((hugs))) you cannot turn back time, but tomorrow is a new day. hang in there!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 04, 2012, 07:03:41 PM
I have my final weigh in tomorrow.. not final for me, because I am not stopping, but final for the BL contest.  Two people in my time in in the running to split $1000.. for the partner competition. One told me she actually took a laxative (pysillium?) or something like that?  The last few days.  I'll stick to my fiber 1 thanks..
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 04, 2012, 10:39:22 PM
I eated too much. I feel like shit.  :whoa:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: radial on March 04, 2012, 10:41:10 PM
I eated too much. I feel like shit.  :whoa:

I eated too much also.  But I feel great!  I'll feel like shit tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 05, 2012, 01:32:00 AM
I eated too much. I feel like shit.  :whoa:

1

again. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 05, 2012, 08:27:15 AM
yesterday with 20 mile run, did not do too bad. I did not really track, but i estimate around 2600-2800 calories. Tofu scramble and fruit for bfast. My goal for the week is not to eat DD's left over toast :D There is nothing i love more than good bread. If i was on a desert island and could only eat three foods for the rest of my life, it would be good bread and butter, cheese pizza and ice cream :D i am up this morning, but i should not have even weighed myself, i am always up after a long run! grrr. i should know better, but with my frustration, i want to see a change in the right direction!!!!!! I think we are doing well with the weaning as well. She is getting cut off after my race at the end of the month, but i am slowly trying to phase her out. She only nursed for about 5 minutes yesterday before her nap. No nursing in the morning or bed time (i was on my long run when she woke up). we also moved her to her room (again) and if she stays in there (we put a huge bed in there!) i will try to get some early morning workouts in and start heading towards two a days.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 05, 2012, 08:31:37 AM
Sounds like it was a general binge weekend.  I suck too.  Pizza, Chinese food, munchkins, bread, bread, bread.   

Three things I learned from overeating this weekend:

1. It doesn't taste all that great - pizza is never as good as my yearning/craving leads me to believe.

2.  It doesn't make me feel better - I don't have more energy, in fact I'm more sluggish.  I don't feel full and satisfied, I just want more -- even when uncomfortably stuffed.  I don't feel better emotionally, in fact I get more anxious which leads me to eat even more. 

3.  I am lucky to have immediate punishment on the scale - I'm 3 pounds up from Friday.  That strengthens my resolve to do well this week. 

86 Days to June 1 - Let's get back on track and start the week right!

Meri - 20 miles!  :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 05, 2012, 08:43:20 AM
20 miles is crazy awesome!

While I didn't go crazy with the eating I have slid of the wagon, too. I am up about a pound with only 2 weeks before I leave. DH was lamenting he is up also. So we are renewing our focus.
My step class is no longer the Sunday secret! There were 22 people there yesterday. It was a fun class, and according to my HRM I burned 589 calories.
We had crab for dinner (yum).

Today my plan is to get my run in, and stick to my food plan at work. No wine when I get home.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on March 05, 2012, 08:49:05 AM
Bridal shower weekend.  Didn't eat well, but also could've been much worse.  Plus I have basically a whole new kitchen, which is good motivation to not eat tons of Chipotle.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 05, 2012, 09:25:49 AM
So, I still feel crummy today. But the scale is down from sat. Hmmm... Maybe karma will be waiting for me tomorrow. Good food all packed for today. Trying out hummus as a snack.

SG I haven't tried any of the idiet recipes. I really want to try the crackers, but haven't gotten around to ordering the corn bran.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 05, 2012, 09:37:17 AM
The scale is moving in the right direction again, and the soreness from last week's workouts is wearing off - so yeah, pretty sure last week's horrifying numbers were all water weight. Whew! Did okay this weekend on the food front, even with book club.

Was going to get up this morning and run, but I slept through two alarms. Oops.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 05, 2012, 09:57:14 AM
Mini re it not being as good as you thought it would be..... big 1!

Courtney, let it go. One thing I think you need to work on IMHO is your need to analyze and obsess. Acknowledge it and let it go. Vow to try harder.

Saturday did an 8 mile MTB-Geocaching loop with my friend Marilyn, Sunday 11 mile hike-Geocaching with Marilyn, Bob and Nick.
I treated my self to a MR burger with Swiss and mushrooms at Ruby Tuesday's but I had string beans and grilled zucchini for the sides.
In retrospect I don't even remember tasting the Swiss cheese. I usually get cheddar,  guess I could have gotten none as well.

I was down on my scale about a pound Sunday AM, hopefully will be down at my WW weigh in Thursday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 05, 2012, 09:59:10 AM
Well, for some crazy reason I woke up at 4:15 or so this morning! Alarm was set for 5 ish, so I ended up just laying there awake.... Got up and did workout 1 of week 3 of Jillian! Today was a new workout (every 2 weeks you get to change to 2 new workouts). Uh, yeah. She kicked my ass. I was pouring buckets of sweat off! And some of the moves are not in my range of motion. I do the best I can, though. I can't imagine if I were really unfit. I mean, I'm not super body builder woman or anything, but I've been working out with weights for a while. This was hard. I have a feeling I won't be able to lift my arms tomorrow. :P I still love it, though! Plan to run after work, too. Either 3.8 miles or 7...

Food was ok this weekend- birthday dinner out Saturday night. I had a bowl of soup + 1/2 starter portion of mushroom risotto + 1/2 molten choc cake. I was STUFFED. Oh, and I had 2 glasses of wine. Mmmm. Yesterday, I didn't end up running or really doing much of anything outside the house. Eating was ok- oatmeal, veggies for lunch, rest of the leftover risotto, and pasta last night for dinner.

Sorry to hear some of you are struggling. It really is a new day, though. You can't undo what you ate, so just move on from here.. it's all we can do day to day!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 05, 2012, 10:18:24 AM
Trying to figure out if I can squeeze in a run tonight. Might be vaguely unfair to DH, though, since I met a friend to catch up over coffee late yesterday afternoon and kind of stuck him with Reid for a few hours. Bad Mommy! Hmmmmmm.....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 05, 2012, 12:59:05 PM
eating my salad lunch AND baked tofu :D are y'all proud? i also threw DD's toast in the trash and did not Costanza it out :D I did take a few bites of her pasta, how can i know if it is seasoned right? :D I am really hoping once i start 2 a days, the weight starts to budge.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on March 05, 2012, 01:06:22 PM
I know that what I eat is more important than exercise when it comes to losing weight, but I have noticed that when I'm working out regularly I make better food choices.  I've gotten kind of lax with exercise lately, so my goal for March is to exercise more.  I'm hoping for 5 days a week, but the main rule I'm giving myself is that if I didn't do it yesterday, I have to do it today.  It's supposed to be really nice today, so I'm going to go for a run after work. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 05, 2012, 01:33:07 PM
Courtney, let it go. One thing I think you need to work on IMHO is your need to analyze and obsess. Acknowledge it and let it go. Vow to try harder.

If it was only that easy :) 

My need to analyze is actually fairly recent, in the last year or so.  I used to just blindly binge before that and then be angry, sad, etc about it and beat myself up.  Vowing to try harder is the story of my life. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 05, 2012, 01:49:34 PM
I know that what I eat is more important than exercise when it comes to losing weight, but I have noticed that when I'm working out regularly I make better food choices. 

I agree!   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 05, 2012, 02:17:38 PM
I am the same way Nadra.  Diet and exercise go hand and hand for me. So it is key for me not to take too long a break from my exercise routine or I backslide.  Once that happens it is very difficult to get on track.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 05, 2012, 02:20:35 PM
I'm pretty close to deciding I'm ready to get back to work, even if it can't be my favorite things. I'm not quite there yet... but getting closer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 05, 2012, 02:33:28 PM
If I don't get regular cardio workouts, my weight loss stalls, even if I'm eating perfectly.  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 05, 2012, 02:36:12 PM
I keep telling myself I should just go walk. But, I always find an excuse not to. It's now light enough and dry enough (most days) that I could go walk. I just need to do it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 05, 2012, 02:44:12 PM
i just cleaned the living room and kitchen (it is nap time!) and did not munch on every left over cracker and cookie. It is soooooo hard to just dump in the trash. i had a couple nibbles, but that was it. And then a rewarded myself with a bowl of grapes. um, yum? LOL. luckily at our play date this morning the mom served fruit salad for snack. the other day at DD's playdate, the mom made this ginormous delicious looking smoothie and i declined, told her i just ate.

the more i exercise (except those long run days) the better i eat too and more energy i have. Mondays are nearly impossible for me to exercise and i take it as a rest day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 05, 2012, 03:09:42 PM
I'm still trying to decide what to do about tonight. I have a raging headache right now, despite the Aleve I took earlier, so that makes me want to just go home and sit and do nothing. Plus, I need to get some stuff done around the house, which makes it hard to get out for a run. And, if I go for a run after Reid goes to bed, that means I'll be wired at my usual bedtime, which will make getting up tomorrow even tougher.

 :sigh:

And then part of me is thinking I'm just making excuses and I need to just suck it up and go.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 05, 2012, 03:13:41 PM
can you power walk or something so that you won't be too keyed up?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 05, 2012, 03:17:56 PM
I bet you'll feel better if you run.   :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 05, 2012, 03:23:56 PM
So I was awoken at 5:30 this morning by a small earthquake. Then I had trouble falling back asleep and I am now sleep deprived.

To top that off I am sore from yesterdays run (because I havent been running so I am out of shape) and hungry because I am following WW again. I am just a ball of fun, arent I.  :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 05, 2012, 03:26:21 PM
can you power walk or something so that you won't be too keyed up?

I could, but if I'm going to work out, I might as well run. It's only 30 minutes.

I bet you'll feel better if you run.   :)

Probably. But I have to get dinner cleaned up, straighten the house, and get Reid to bed before I can even contemplate that - by then it'll be 8:15ish. So we'll see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 05, 2012, 03:30:51 PM
MM- you are almost as fun as i am!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 05, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
Eh let the house stay messy and leave the dishes til tomorrow!

 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 05, 2012, 03:52:29 PM
Eh let the house stay messy and leave the dishes til tomorrow!

 

OMG, no. I can't sleep if the house is a disaster. It depresses me to wake up and walk into a messy kitchen - it's like I'm already behind for the day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 05, 2012, 05:02:01 PM
Eh let the house stay messy and leave the dishes til tomorrow!

 

 :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 05, 2012, 06:04:35 PM
Eh let the house stay messy and leave the dishes til tomorrow!

 
Which is why my house looks like a disaster zone
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 05, 2012, 07:30:05 PM
today was not too bad. minimal snacking on DD's food. Nothing terrible. Good portions. I made a tempeh loaf for dinner from happy herbivore tonight, it was pretty good, made it before. it is super easy, i was feeling lazy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 05, 2012, 10:11:50 PM
Well I've been MIA a bit...basically I've been cooking/baking instead of exercising.  Naughty naughty naughty!!  Usually I'm able to plan a run and get it done but a combo of no motivation, visitors at awkward times, and the kids rebelling against naptime AND bedtime...it has been bad for my energy levels.

Tomorrow will be different!  At least today's food was good.  Baked oatmeal for breakfast...and, the highlight of my day, was a 2 hr lunch of wine & a chicken salad with LizardMixture.  :D  She's super friendly and easy going...it was great.



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 05, 2012, 10:16:24 PM
Still feeling icky after y'days bender. Did fine today on food. Wasn't hungry for dinner but decided to eat anyway. Got some new veggie burgers and they are really yucky. I might just toss the box.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 05, 2012, 10:21:18 PM
Pasta and meat sauce for dinner. Mmmmm. Still have a nagging headache, so I'm heading to bed soon. It's not dehydration - pretty sure I slept funny last night because my shoulders are all knotted up. I think that's causing the headache. :grr: I need a massage. But I need someone to sneak me $50 first.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 06, 2012, 07:30:52 AM
are there any massage schools near you? some of them are really cheap.

UGH!!! yesterday i was peeing a lot, so hopefully getting all that long run bloat out, so i weighed this morning and i was up FOUR pounds. I truly hate my body sometimes. (http://bestsmileys.com/crying/13.gif)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 06, 2012, 08:19:16 AM
Last weigh in for BL yesterday and was down 1 lb and then I weighed on today and was down 2  :fiery:  Not made about being down 2 but mad about it not being yesterday.  That could have catapaulted us to first place!

My body is so weird.. it can fluctuate 2-3 lbs either way from day to day.  I think I tend to retain fluids some times.. I'm not going to let it bother me, but just look for general trends.

Last night we went for sushi as I am giving myself permission to be a little less strict over the next day or two with my son home. Sushi was great!  But then I came home later at night and ate bread and crackers!  Oh well, one night not a disaster, after 8 weeks of pretty rigidly tracking I think it's ok to take a few days break.  Since I have the next two days off and doing stuff with my son, I am going to eat whatever we decide to eat and not worry too much about it, without going totally crazy and then Thursday, but to tracking rigidly.  I want to take off another 12-14 lbs if possible.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 06, 2012, 08:33:14 AM
That's great mos!

Scale was even again today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 06, 2012, 08:49:24 AM
Sabotage!  My boss brought in biscotti from the North End.  I resisted.  My DH brought home a huge package of Oreos - much easier to resist.  But why are these getting waved in my face?   >:(

Down a pound from yesterday, but still not back to where I was Friday. 

Meri, I feel your pain.  It truly sucks to be getting tons of exercise and eating minimally and see numbers rise on the scale.   :fiery:

 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 06, 2012, 09:37:29 AM
Scale is still inching down from last week's water retention extravaganza. Whew. Gym tonight. Finally figured out why I slept through my alarm the past few days - Reid got to my watch and managed to turn the damn thing off. That makes me feel better - at least I'm not *that* exhausted or getting sick or something - and more pissed at the same time. I could have been getting up! Oh well. Now I know, the alarm is turned back on, and I'll double check before bed tonight.

Doing okay on food. God Love Him, DH cut up a bunch of veggies for me to snack on this afternoon while he was making our lunches last night. I was going to do it, but my headache came back full force, so I went to sleep early.

And meri, yeah, there's a massage school upstairs in our building - I just can't figure out when they let students do the massages! Can't find a schedule!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 06, 2012, 10:20:18 AM
I am guilty as well but I think it really is best to weigh in once a week.

It is not weird at all to be up and down. Lots of reasons. You just make yourself crazy weighing daily, or more then once a day.

You can argue all you want with why you do it, doesn't make it right.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 06, 2012, 10:34:56 AM
Meh. I don't obsess about it all day. I am a numbers person. I like to see trends, etc. If I just saw the same # on the scale every saturday I would be going nuts! Since I weigh every day I can see where it jumps and then see it creep back down. But, I understand what you're saying.

I calculated my bmr yestrday as 1440. So, if I'm eating 1200 calories and not excorsizing that puts me at just a 200 calorie def. I thought about walking last night but the wind was crazy and it was like 35. Supposed to be in the 40's today. Maybe I'll walk while dd is at tennis.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 06, 2012, 10:49:37 AM
I weigh every day just to keep an eye on things, so I'm not surprised come Saturday morning, which is my official weigh-in day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 06, 2012, 11:31:38 AM
I am going back to just weighing on weigh in day. I like the surprise.

Yesterday was good except I skipped working out. Tonight we are definately running and dinner is in the crock pot.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 06, 2012, 12:23:47 PM
Meh. I don't obsess about it all day. I am a numbers person. I like to see trends, etc. If I just saw the same # on the scale every saturday I would be going nuts! Since I weigh every day I can see where it jumps and then see it creep back down. But, I understand what you're saying.

I calculated my bmr yestrday as 1440. So, if I'm eating 1200 calories and not excorsizing that puts me at just a 200 calorie def. I thought about walking last night but the wind was crazy and it was like 35. Supposed to be in the 40's today. Maybe I'll walk while dd is at tennis.

I think your bmr is calories burned just sitting around doing nothing, isn't it? You probably burn a few calories during the day at work and stuff.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Miss on March 06, 2012, 12:55:00 PM
Well, my running has been erratic the last few weeks due to my surgery that was done last Friday.  I've been in bed ever since.  I just signed up for Weight Watchers to help me get back on track after this mess of a month.  I can start running again next week I hope.  Anyone else doing Weight Watchers?

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 06, 2012, 02:10:11 PM
I'm doing WW, Miss, as are Courtney, Magic Microbe, and Hally. Maybe some others?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: bensmom243 on March 06, 2012, 02:14:13 PM
I'm doing WW, Miss, as are Courtney, Magic Microbe, and Hally. Maybe some others?

I just started back yesterday.  I had lost 40 lbs using WW a few years ago, but 10 lbs found their way back.  I do go to the meetings, I find I do better when I need to face their scale vs. my own. 

Today I am hungry, probably just bored more than anything.  The kids will be home soon and the afternoon routine will keep me busy until dinner.  I am working my way through C25K, week 7 day 1 tonight.

You all are so inspiring! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 06, 2012, 03:17:00 PM
I think your bmr is calories burned just sitting around doing nothing, isn't it? You probably burn a few calories during the day at work and stuff.

Yep, most of the things I've seen then have you take your BMR x something like 1.2 or 1.4, or 1.6 depending on your general activitly level thru the day (not counting exercise). 

The RD I saw a couple years ago advised not going below your BMR on a regular basis, because that was not good for your body long term. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Miss on March 06, 2012, 08:43:00 PM
I'm doing WW, Miss, as are Courtney, Magic Microbe, and Hally. Maybe some others?

So glad to hear this.  I went over my daily points today and dipped into my extra weekly points.  It is only DAY 1 for me.  Am I a failure?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 06, 2012, 08:48:26 PM
So glad to hear this.  I went over my daily points today and dipped into my extra weekly points.  It is only DAY 1 for me.  Am I a failure?

Nope! I think it's actually not a bad place to be. WW was very useful for me to be able to see where I was "wasting" points. If you hoard your points then you end up starving and binge. If you eat normally you can see where you're spending too many points and cut back on unnecessaries. At least, that's how it worked for me.
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Post by: nadra24 on March 06, 2012, 09:09:01 PM
For dinner tonight I made a pretty big plate of pasta with sauteed onion, brussels sprouts, and chicken.  I finished it 45 minutes ago, and I'm still STARVING!  WTF?
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Post by: Miss on March 06, 2012, 09:53:30 PM
For dinner tonight I made a pretty big plate of pasta with sauteed onion, brussels sprouts, and chicken.  I finished it 45 minutes ago, and I'm still STARVING!  WTF?
Bun in the oven?
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Post by: debbatx on March 06, 2012, 09:57:15 PM
So glad to hear this.  I went over my daily points today and dipped into my extra weekly points.  It is only DAY 1 for me.  Am I a failure?

Not at all!!! When I first started WW, way, way, way back in the day, someone suggested that you eat as you normally would in the first week, and track the points. That gives you a sense of where you're truly starting and where you're going to need to make changes. I still have areas where I can tweak things a bit, but I'm pretty happy with my food, at least.

I mean, if you used up every last one of your weekly points today, then maybe there's an issue, but you get the points for a reason. Use 'em!

And nadra, I got nothin', but I've had that happen to me before, too. Did you exercise heavily today? Or even yesterday?
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Post by: nadra24 on March 06, 2012, 10:06:16 PM
I am most definitely NOT pregnant!   :sidesplit:

I haven't exercised particularly hard this week.  I didn't have time to eat breakfast today, but I ate what I brought for breakfast with my lunch so that shouldn't be it.  Hm, I didn't really have much for dinner last night.  Maybe that's it, could be a cumulative effect perhaps!
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Post by: debbatx on March 06, 2012, 10:09:26 PM
Sounds like a cumulative effect type of thing.

Or you're pregnant. :D
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Post by: Courtney on March 06, 2012, 10:32:59 PM
Bun in the oven?

Congrats, Nadra :D 
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Post by: Bolloxd on March 06, 2012, 10:36:36 PM
nadra it could be just a hormonal thing in general.  I end up starving right before my period and need more food.
MOS - nice work throughout the BL challenge!  Enjoy your relaxed eating days.
debba - that is funny.  It's amazing at some of the odd things kids will get in to trying to derail our momentum.


So, I finally got running again.  4.3 miles and my push ups....the kids were up early from their nap before I could do more though.  Luckily they are getting better at nap time, but bed time is still rough.  It seems to be getting ever so slightly better though.   :fingers:

I made some whole wheat/wheat germ pancakes this morning that were really tasty.  Definitely will be eating them more often.  Today I also roasted a chicken, made stock, chicken salad, froze some shredded chicken, baked a loaf of wholewheat honey bread and froze 2 more loaves.  I'm trying to stock up my freezer again.  I've got several other meals to be put together and frozen too. 
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Post by: nadra's babydaddy on March 07, 2012, 12:35:15 AM
 >:(
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Post by: Miss on March 07, 2012, 08:14:41 AM
Turns out the Dukan Gallette I made this morning is only 2 WW points with strawberries and bananas on top!  Woo hoo! 

I'm liking this already.

One of my FB friends lost 35 lbs on WW (y'all may know who I'm talking about since she is a former CH'er).  I am very inspired.
Not at all!!! When I first started WW, way, way, way back in the day, someone suggested that you eat as you normally would in the first week, and track the points. That gives you a sense of where you're truly starting and where you're going to need to make changes. I still have areas where I can tweak things a bit, but I'm pretty happy with my food, at least.

I mean, if you used up every last one of your weekly points today, then maybe there's an issue, but you get the points for a reason. Use 'em! And nadra, I got nothin', but I've had that happen to me before, too. Did you exercise heavily today? Or even yesterday?
I only dipped into 2 weekly points.
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Post by: merigayle on March 07, 2012, 08:18:33 AM
my weight was just +1 this morning. Makes me less angry! LOL. I did really well yesterday, got my run in and ate about 1300 calories. You would have been proud, more protein-- i had tofu scramble for bfast, grapes, apple, salad, baked tofu, apple, strawberries, lentil sloppy joes sans bun, steamed veggies, and a few chocolate animal crackers of DD's for dessert.
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 07, 2012, 08:33:47 AM
YAY Meri!

I'm +1 from Friday, but that's better than Monday when I was +3.   Feeling exceptionally pleased with myself today.  I'm wearing my newly altered skirt, tights, boots, short-sleeved shirt and suit jacket.  I can do anything in this outfit!

Nadra, I find I'm most hungry on the days before the scale's about to take a dip, no matter how well I eat.  I read it as the body telling me it doesn't want to change, eat more so I can maintain! 

Bolluxd, I love pre-planning and pre-prepping meals.  It makes it so much easier to stay on track when I'm not standing at the fridge hungry, wondering what to eat.

Heard about a new food delivery plan called fresh diet (http://www.thefreshdiet.com/).  They deliver fresh meals to your door every day -- for $30-$60/per day!   It would cost  $3-5000 for a 90-day get fit for summer program.  Well, I only have 84 days left, but that's a shitload of money.  For $3-5K I could go to a luxury spa for a week!
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Post by: merigayle on March 07, 2012, 08:38:29 AM
i have a patient who is doing one of those meal things locally. Yep, it is a TON of money. And hers is all vegetarian, so probably pennies to prepare! LOL.
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Post by: debbatx on March 07, 2012, 09:11:18 AM
Yeah, we have one of those fresh food delivered things - it's called My Fit Foods. I don't make enough money! Plus, what good is it going to do me if I lose all the weight having someone else cook for me, and then have to learn to maintain all on my own? Hah! That would never work for me.

The scale is down from the workout-induced gains last week, thank goodness. Of course, I had another awesome workout last night, so that might not last. We'll see. Whatever, I got to kickbox. I wish I got to do that every time I went to the gym!

Miss, if you only used 2 of your weekly points, then you're doing just fine. :) I was SO happy when WW changed and made almost all fruits and veggies free. Makes my life so much easier!

Has anyone heard of or used the Daily Feats website? I'm thinking of trying it for my runs - to see if it can help motivate me.
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Post by: Run Amok on March 07, 2012, 09:36:03 AM
Down about .4 this morning. I'll take it!
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 07, 2012, 10:05:08 AM
Yesterday was every meal out with my son.. breakfast, which I was ok on 2 eggs over easy, toast and home fries..
Lunch.. was not until about 3:45 and a splurged on a burger and fries.. so good and I had not had one since I've been on the BL.. and since we were at a beer boutigue.. two glorious, definitely not Bud light type beers...

Since this was an odd time to eat, we were both pretty famished later at night so we ordered a white pizza.. garlic, olive oil and cheese.. He also picked up a box of Girl Scout cookies while at the pizza place. I did have a few..

We did walk miles and miles yesterday so I don't think I did too much damage..And I had my first session of training group today.. since the contest was over, we did not do any of the cardio intervals we usually do.. but focused strictly on the TRX suspension training with a few kettlebell moves thrown in. It was hard, but I love TRX!

I picked up bagels this morning and wil eat what the day brings... It's nice to take a few days of not logging and my body can probably use a break so I can come back stronger.. I do still want to lose about 12 -14 more lbs and those will be hard..

I am setting my limit til Sat of not worrying and then getting back to logging on Sunday.. Tomorrow and Fri should be fine as I will be back at work.

Rewards!  I'm thinking of setting a reward for my next 5 lbs.. Actually.. when I take 5 more lbs off and keep it off for two weeks, I am going to allow myself to buy some workout gear from Lululemon.. way too much $$ but I do feel it's good to reward oneself at some times.
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Post by: debbatx on March 07, 2012, 01:18:33 PM
Eating lunch now - I have to run out to the grocery store nearby in a few minutes to see if they have something we need for dinner.  :nails: I'm hoping that being full will prevent me from doing anything stupid.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 07, 2012, 01:32:26 PM
Yesterday was good but I was frustrated to learn that my 300 calorie frozen meal was 9 ww points. Here...
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Post by: bensmom243 on March 07, 2012, 01:34:19 PM
Yesterday was every meal out with my son.. breakfast, which I was ok on 2 eggs over easy, toast and home fries..
Lunch.. was not until about 3:45 and a splurged on a burger and fries.. so good and I had not had one since I've been on the BL.. and since we were at a beer boutigue.. two glorious, definitely not Bud light type beers...

Since this was an odd time to eat, we were both pretty famished later at night so we ordered a white pizza.. garlic, olive oil and cheese.. He also picked up a box of Girl Scout cookies while at the pizza place. I did have a few..

We did walk miles and miles yesterday so I don't think I did too much damage..And I had my first session of training group today.. since the contest was over, we did not do any of the cardio intervals we usually do.. but focused strictly on the TRX suspension training with a few kettlebell moves thrown in. It was hard, but I love TRX!

I picked up bagels this morning and wil eat what the day brings... It's nice to take a few days of not logging and my body can probably use a break so I can come back stronger.. I do still want to lose about 12 -14 more lbs and those will be hard..

I am setting my limit til Sat of not worrying and then getting back to logging on Sunday.. Tomorrow and Fri should be fine as I will be back at work.

Rewards!  I'm thinking of setting a reward for my next 5 lbs.. Actually.. when I take 5 more lbs off and keep it off for two weeks, I am going to allow myself to buy some workout gear from Lululemon.. way too much $$ but I do feel it's good to reward oneself at some times.

I think it is great that you are enjoying the time with your son, and you have a great attitude in regards to finding a good balance. 

I also treat myself to lulu clothing.  I love it and even though it is pricey, I am finding it lasts longer than the cheaper stuff, so I buy less.  I love their skirts for tennis and running.
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 07, 2012, 02:14:04 PM
Pushers are hanging out near my building.  GSA is evil I tell you!  Evil!  Luckily, I didn't have any money when I went out or I'd be stuffing my face with cookies at this very moment.
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Post by: debbatx on March 07, 2012, 02:41:47 PM
Survived the grocery run. Whew.
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Post by: Courtney on March 07, 2012, 03:33:14 PM
Do you know how many points are in a sleeve of Thin Mints?  I do. 

16 motherfucking points. 

Ridonkulous. 
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Post by: debbatx on March 07, 2012, 03:43:57 PM
You don't want to know how many points are in ice cream. No you do not.
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Post by: Miss on March 07, 2012, 03:58:43 PM
Well I did great today!  I still have 16 points left for dinner.  That means I will be drinking a glass of wine.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 07, 2012, 04:16:09 PM
Do you know how many points are in a sleeve of Thin Mints?  I do. 

16 motherfucking points. 

Ridonkulous. 

You should see how many points Antag gets a day. He can eat for lunch what I am allowed for an entire day.  >:( He had a 22 point lunch yesterday...I think I hate him.
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Post by: debbatx on March 07, 2012, 04:21:26 PM
MM, is Antag doing the WW for Men? Is it different? I'm trying to get DH interested.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 07, 2012, 04:52:37 PM
MM, is Antag doing the WW for Men? Is it different? I'm trying to get DH interested.

He joined with me last weekend at the meeting. It doesn't seem to be different except they get a ton of points ( >:(). I know from past meeting attendance that men lose weight quicker also.

I think the WW for men is really just marketing.
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Post by: Jamers86 on March 07, 2012, 04:54:30 PM
Down another pound.  3.5 more and I'm where I want to maintain long term.
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Post by: Courtney on March 07, 2012, 04:59:34 PM
You should see how many points Antag gets a day. He can eat for lunch what I am allowed for an entire day.  >:( He had a 22 point lunch yesterday...I think I hate him.

I know, it sucks.  My DH does it with me when he wants to lose a few.  He gets a ton more points than I do, and I weigh more than he does.   >:(
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Post by: debbatx on March 07, 2012, 05:09:17 PM
He joined with me last weekend at the meeting. It doesn't seem to be different except they get a ton of points ( >:(). I know from past meeting attendance that men lose weight quicker also.

I think the WW for men is really just marketing.

That's what I suspected, but was curious. I do online, so DH would, too. He was really successful with it in the past. I guess it makes sense that they get more points, but DH would probably be like, "Beer points! WOOT!"
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 07, 2012, 05:36:06 PM
Well I did great today!  I still have 16 points left for dinner.  That means I will be drinking a glass of wine.

That's great that you had a good day.  I liked weight watchers and lost a lot of weight when I did it on line.  I just felt like some of the stuff they talked about either in the meetings and forums were how to manipulate your points to have stuff that was not necessarily so good for you.  And the weight watchers desserts and meals etc, that have additives and left me wanting more.  I know it works and I know it's a great program, I just wish it steered people more to "real" food.  I think the newer points plus does more than it did years ago... but I'm trying to get to a more real, less processed way of eating.
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Post by: debbatx on March 07, 2012, 05:40:02 PM
MoS, the changes they made with WW do a pretty good job (I think) of steering people that direction. Of course, I'm only doing online these days, so I don't know what's being said in meetings. But yeah, I'm more likely to reach for fruit and veggies now than I was when an apple was going to use up some of my points.
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Post by: merigayle on March 07, 2012, 06:19:56 PM
So wednesday is Panera day at DD's school, holy cow! There was a huge box of loaves of bread, one of bagels, one of pastries, a basket of sliced bread loaves and a bag of packaged pastries.  :panic: i took home a loaf of bread and gave half to the neighbor and sliced and froze the other half and only ate a small teeny sliver, plain, of the bread. DD and the neighbor girl had shortbread cookies and coffee cake. I did not even take a taste. I should get a medal :D
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Post by: hally on March 07, 2012, 07:01:27 PM
MOS, they are totally not pushing that crap now. It's more hungry? Eat a piece of fruit or fill your plate with 0 point veggies.
I didn't like the old one either, I am loving this version.
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Post by: Miss on March 07, 2012, 07:14:12 PM
Well those 16 points went fast.


 >:(

Still dipping into weekly points.  It's because my body is healing from surgery, right?  RIGHT???????
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Post by: Run Amok on March 07, 2012, 07:15:36 PM
We brought lunch in from our local gourmet deli today. I was in charge of lunch and ordered "make your own" sandwich trays. For the first time ever no one complained! I was fairly good at lunch. 1 slice of bread, 1 slice of cheese, lots of veggies- no mayo (yuck!), no dessert, a teensy bit of dressing. But then I made myself another tiny sandwhich in the afternoon and had a few pieces of chocolate.  :nono: I have a feeling I won't be hungy for dinner though so maybe it all comes out in teh wash.
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Post by: merigayle on March 07, 2012, 07:30:01 PM
Miss- yes you need to heal up!!! :D

RA- glad everyone was happy. what kind of chocolate??

I was good. I dumped DD's leftover dinner and only ate 2 french fry letters, she left like 6 of them. Now i want dessert. I may just blend up a frozen banana or something.
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Post by: debbatx on March 07, 2012, 07:34:43 PM
Miss! It's OKAY to dip into your weekly points!!!! And yes, part of your hunger is likely because you're healing - that takes energy! But hell, I'm dipping into my weekly points tonight because dinner is more than I figured (hadn't run the numbers) and I'd also really like a glass of wine. And that? IS OKAY.

They're not there to make you feel guilty - they're there for you to eat! So use 'em!
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Post by: nadra24 on March 07, 2012, 07:36:37 PM
You should see how many points Antag gets a day. He can eat for lunch what I am allowed for an entire day.  >:( He had a 22 point lunch yesterday...I think I hate him.

My mom complained about the same thing when she and my dad did WW together.  Pissed her right off, because he used to complain that all of those points were just too much food for him! 
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Post by: Miss on March 07, 2012, 08:00:11 PM
Miss! It's OKAY to dip into your weekly points!!!! And yes, part of your hunger is likely because you're healing - that takes energy! But hell, I'm dipping into my weekly points tonight because dinner is more than I figured (hadn't run the numbers) and I'd also really like a glass of wine. And that? IS OKAY.

They're not there to make you feel guilty - they're there for you to eat! So use 'em!

Thanks, I needed that.  It doesn't help that I'm also extremely PMS! 
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Post by: debbatx on March 07, 2012, 08:37:30 PM
Awww, you're welcome. PMS and surgery recovery? Blech. I'm so sorry. I'd be 3 pints (of ice cream) to the wind by now.
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Post by: caito on March 07, 2012, 08:43:05 PM
Awww, you're welcome. PMS and surgery recovery? Blech. I'm so sorry. I'd be 3 pints (of ice cream) to the wind by now.

Me too!   

Do not discount the energy it takes to heal!  Nourish yourself.  :)
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Post by: bensmom243 on March 07, 2012, 08:58:48 PM
I have a question for those of you who count calories using livestrong or myfitnesspal or whatever.  How do you count a salad or big bowl of veggies?  With WW they are 0 points, so I only have to figure the points for dressing. But with calories, it seems like a pain to measure 1/2 cup of cucumbers, peppers etc.  I am keeping track of calories in addition to WW to see how they compare.
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Post by: Run Amok on March 07, 2012, 09:13:23 PM
TBH I kind of fudge on the veggies. I just eyeball it. There are so few calories it's not really worth counting. I am careful to measure anything other than non-starchy veggies though.
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Post by: nadra24 on March 07, 2012, 09:52:09 PM
I have a question for those of you who count calories using livestrong or myfitnesspal or whatever.  How do you count a salad or big bowl of veggies?  With WW they are 0 points, so I only have to figure the points for dressing. But with calories, it seems like a pain to measure 1/2 cup of cucumbers, peppers etc.  I am keeping track of calories in addition to WW to see how they compare.

I am super dorky and I usually weigh them.  I just put the bowl on top of my food scale and zero it out in between adding veggies.  This works for me because Livestrong lets you enter stuff in grams, I find it easier to weigh than to just stick to 1/2 or 1 cup or whatever.  Now, I only cook for myself and I think it would be trickier if I were cooking for a family and then serving myself out of a serving bowl. 

Like RA says though, you can probably just eyeball it and call it good because there aren't really enough calories in veggies to make all that much of a difference.
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Post by: Run Amok on March 07, 2012, 10:18:30 PM
11 hours at work followed by 1 hour shivering waiting for the bus... Would love a glass of wine about now!
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Post by: radial on March 07, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
11 hours at work followed by 1 hour shivering waiting for the bus... Would love a glass of wine about now!

The shivering entitles you to one glass. 
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Post by: merigayle on March 08, 2012, 07:25:32 AM
I have a question for those of you who count calories using livestrong or myfitnesspal or whatever.  How do you count a salad or big bowl of veggies?  With WW they are 0 points, so I only have to figure the points for dressing. But with calories, it seems like a pain to measure 1/2 cup of cucumbers, peppers etc.  I am keeping track of calories in addition to WW to see how they compare.
i estimate in cups-- like 4 cups spinach, etc, then add in the components, 1 carrot, 1 cup pepper, etc.
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Post by: merigayle on March 08, 2012, 07:44:28 AM
yippeee! i was up 2 lbs this morning.  >:(
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 08, 2012, 08:30:19 AM
This morning had pants anxiety.  It's very warm today, so I thought I'd bring out the Spring khakis.

I tried on two pair.  The first fit ok, but it was too clingy and made me feel naked.  The second pair was less stretchy, less clingy, and felt better.

I actually took photos to compare:

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/MiniDriver066/030812081851.jpg)
Nakey

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/MiniDriver066/030812081930.jpg)
Dressed

Note that at work I am wearing a jacket to camouflage my gut.  My ass looks better in the nakey pants, but my legs look thinner in the looser pants.

What forced the decision was that I got some eye makeup on the nakey pants, so they got tossed in the wash.  Then on the way out the door I got bike grease on the other pair.  I was destined to look like a slob today.

Scale down a bit despite snitching a biscotti from the boss's stash yesterday.

{{Meri}}  The scale is a cruel fiend.
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Post by: Run Amok on March 08, 2012, 08:59:09 AM
Down 1.6 this am. I'll take it, even though I fully expect to be up 2-3 tomorrow. My latest breakfast concoction is 1/2 cup yogurt, 1/2 cup pumpkin, 1/4 cup oatbran- a sprinkle of pumpkin pie spice, a splash of vanilla and a tiny scoop of stevia. This is a riff on something I learned from the low carbers about 10 years ago (at the time it was full fat cream cheese + pumpkin, etc  :o)

you're looking positively thin mini!

Not fair Meri! I call foul!
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Post by: hally on March 08, 2012, 10:03:28 AM
How does one get eye makeup on their own pants?   :roll:
Can't see pictures at work from photobucket so can't comment on them.

I was a disgusting pig the last two nights. I did however verify the fact that I can not buy peanut butter.
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Post by: debbatx on March 08, 2012, 10:31:34 AM
Looking good, Mini! I have a couple pairs of pants like that - they make me insane.

Hanging in there, scale-wise. I honestly can't remember what yesterday's number was, but today's was down from my official number last week, so okay. Gym tonight.  :panic: I'm going to tackle cardio this weekend put together a solid plan and figure out a way to make it happen. Next week is Spring Break, so I can nap if I need to. :)
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 08, 2012, 11:21:34 AM
Mini...you look skinny!

I am down today (actual weigh in is on Sunday) so I am happy it is really working!
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 08, 2012, 11:41:16 AM
How does one get eye makeup on their own pants?   :roll:



It's quite easy.  I sit watching the news as I apply my makeup.  I take it out of the makeup case and rest the little compact of eye shadow on my leg.  The stupid stuff falls off the brush and onto my pants, where it bonds with the material and cannot be dusted off.  I don't learn from this experience, and repeat as necessary.

Skinny?  Me?  Thanks!
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Post by: merigayle on March 08, 2012, 11:56:39 AM
yes! Skinny Mini!!!!!
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Post by: Courtney on March 08, 2012, 12:02:37 PM
It's quite easy.  I sit watching the news as I apply my makeup.  I take it out of the makeup case and rest the little compact of eye shadow on my leg.  The stupid stuff falls off the brush and onto my pants, where it bonds with the material and cannot be dusted off.  I don't learn from this experience, and repeat as necessary.

Skinny?  Me?  Thanks!

Heh.  I keep getting shimmery gold eye makeup all over my face whenever I use it...  I keep doing the same thing over and over!  D'oh! 
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 08, 2012, 12:17:30 PM
My two days of eating did some damage. 3 lbs!!  But  I know alot of it is sodium and I am back to logging my food today, so I am sure it will come off.

I have to say I am proud of  myself for stepping on the scale to be aware of what I was doing.. In the past, I would just avoid the scale knowing I was up, live in denial and oblivion for a few weeks and before I know it be up 10 lbs.  So yay for me for getting on the scale!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 08, 2012, 12:40:38 PM
My two days of eating did some damage. 3 lbs!!  But  I know alot of it is sodium and I am back to logging my food today, so I am sure it will come off.

I have to say I am proud of  myself for stepping on the scale to be aware of what I was doing.. In the past, I would just avoid the scale knowing I was up, live in denial and oblivion for a few weeks and before I know it be up 10 lbs.  So yay for me for getting on the scale!

That is why I get weighed in weekly at WW even when I know I am up. Accountability and not living in denial!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 08, 2012, 12:43:14 PM
Oh, and I forgot to tell you guys! I saw my trainer for the first time since my accident. As of this morning, I'm down 15lbs since then. The first thing she did was ask if I'd lost weight. No one else has commented (which, I'm actually happy about). Of course, it's her job to scrutinize how my body is working, so it makes sense she'd notice if something is up (she can usually also tell by watching me ride where I'm sore. It's a bit spooky.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 08, 2012, 01:04:03 PM
Oh! And! My cw is back on the hcg diet and apparently has lost *9* lbs since monday.

I admit... it's tempting to think I could be near my goal weight by the time I left for st john on the 23rd. *hangs head in shame*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 08, 2012, 01:12:40 PM
There's no shame in being tempted by quick weight loss, RA. Lord knows I have been. Hell, I'd probably do the liquid diet thing under a doctor's supervision, but I can't afford it. It sucks to struggle and try so hard and to know that you're doing it "right," and then have some jackass walk in and say they got shot up with hcg and dropped 9 pounds in four days. Bitch.

The good news is, the next time she walks past a burger joint, she's going to gain it all back.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 08, 2012, 01:14:47 PM
have some jackass walk in and say they got shot up with hcg and dropped 9 pounds in four days. Bitch.

 :preen:

(she gets drops off the interwebs)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 08, 2012, 01:22:48 PM
There's no shame in being tempted by quick weight loss, RA. Lord knows I have been. Hell, I'd probably do the liquid diet thing under a doctor's supervision, but I can't afford it. It sucks to struggle and try so hard and to know that you're doing it "right," and then have some jackass walk in and say they got shot up with hcg and dropped 9 pounds in four days. Bitch.

The good news is, the next time she walks past a burger joint, she's going to gain it all back.

I love evil.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 08, 2012, 01:27:37 PM
ugh. life is just not fair! i had a really good run today though and really kicked up the speed. watching Biggest Loser helped :D

I think my hormones are going haywire and may be part of my issue. I am trying to wean DD and will at the end of the month, so there are days we barely nurse, so i think my hormones are a bit wonky. I felt like i was ovulating last week and today i had some tiny bit of blood, not spotting, but a tiny bit of blood, will spare you the details. My face is breaking out too! So, maybe this is part of it? i know in the past, with PMS, i could easily gain 6-8 lbs of water weight right before my period. I am just a specimen of amazing bodies in action :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 08, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
I love evil.

 :>D:

And meri, yeah, hormones can easily be the cause of your weight going bonkers. Hormones are tools of the devil, I'm pretty sure.  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 08, 2012, 02:11:23 PM


And meri, yeah, hormones can easily be the cause of your weight going bonkers. Hormones are tools of the devil, I'm pretty sure.  :hug:
i am just hoping that when it sorts itself out i see a LOSS for crying out loud, if i wanted to maintain, i would be enjoying my food a little more and eating BREAD!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 08, 2012, 02:19:06 PM
Interesting article on rise of obesity and diabetes, and what to do about it. (http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/03/the-big-setup/)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 08, 2012, 02:42:53 PM
Interesting article on rise of obesity and diabetes, and what to do about it. (http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/03/the-big-setup/)
very similar to the message in the movie "Forks over Knives"
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 08, 2012, 03:08:23 PM
That was interesting - thanks, Mini!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 08, 2012, 06:03:11 PM
 :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

one of my patients stopped at a bakery on her way here and brought a box of amazing looking fancy italian cookies.  :'( :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 08, 2012, 07:34:10 PM
:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

one of my patients stopped at a bakery on her way here and brought a box of amazing looking fancy italian cookies.  :'( :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

I hear they have no calories. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 08, 2012, 07:43:21 PM
I hear they have no calories.
my fat ass disagrees :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 08, 2012, 07:45:46 PM
(http://media-cdn.pinterest.com/upload/175288610466188419_c2NURU5U_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 08, 2012, 08:06:10 PM
i ate one cookie. as long as i do not eat another, i am ok with that. it was not a big one either!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 08, 2012, 08:39:09 PM
I ate 2 girl scout cookies (an evil undergrad brought them in today). Otherwise I have been on plan today. I think I am ok though because I havent used any weekly points yet...but I also cannot do any cardio with my hurty bloody toe.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 08, 2012, 08:57:32 PM
 :hug: could you go walking tomorrow for a bit of easy cardio and a couple of ww points?  when I broke my toes I wore my Keens for walks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 08, 2012, 09:51:26 PM
See, to me, 2 girl scout cookies is 2 SLEEVES of girl scout cookies. So you're already in way better shape than I would be!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 08, 2012, 10:24:33 PM
See, to me, 2 girl scout cookies is 2 SLEEVES of girl scout cookies. So you're already in way better shape than I would be!

Generally it would be the whole box for me but I need to exercise restraint. I need to lose at least 20 pounds before my wedding.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 08, 2012, 10:35:20 PM
So dd is babysitting tomorrow night until 10:30 so DH and I are going on a (much needed!) date. I am having dessert and we are sharing a bottle of wine. So... yeah. BUT- this week has been mostly pretty good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 08, 2012, 10:37:40 PM
RA, it's a planned splurge - you can have a much-deserved date night and then get right back on the wagon/horse/metaphor of your choice on Saturday morning.

And MM, 20 is my first goal, too. It's so close, yet so, so far away.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 08, 2012, 10:52:11 PM
Oh! Eggs fried in brown butter + roasted brussels sprouts and shallots for dinner. Yuuuuuuuum.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 09, 2012, 12:17:23 AM
Tonight I learned that pesto doesn't taste that great when made without cheese and only a bit of olive oil.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Eco Ellen on March 09, 2012, 12:21:44 AM
Oh! Eggs fried in brown butter + roasted brussels sprouts and shallots for dinner. Yuuuuuuuum.

What is brown butter?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 07:22:04 AM
Tonight I learned that pesto doesn't taste that great when made without cheese and only a bit of olive oil.
:roll:

yep. i did make an avocado pesto for DD that was not bad and i reduced the oil.

SO i guess it was day of the evil cookies yesterday? i hope they all disappear today. DD is playing with them now  :confused: just eat them!!! LOL.

I want to start doing date night with DH every so often, but do not want to eat out. LOL
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 07:41:46 AM
oh and my weight is the same, still up about 1lb. sigh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 09, 2012, 08:07:49 AM
Welp, I've been doing great with exercise- nearly done with week 3 of the Jillian thing. Been running... (despite what i think is ITB pain/problems starting). Last night, I went to a sports bar place with a co-worker and had 2 margaritas and split a queso with chips.  :-\ It was sooooo good though. We've been trying to get out for months now and she's been having lots of personal issues. I think she appreciated the girl talk time!

Now, I have a little rant about work place food... we have a new principal this year who never stops talking about her husband who almost died of a heart attack last year. She goes on about how they are "trying' to get healthy (she is obese and I haven't seen any change in the past 7 months or whatever that we've been in school.) So today is a teacher workday. And they've got Waffle House breakfast for us! And she just came on the announcements and said "don't forget to grab your candy bar before the faculty meeting today!" And this isn't the first time they've had WH or candy bars. One time it was chick fil a.... Now, while I appreciate the gestures, it confuses me that she goes on and on about getting healthy, but then always brings in this kind of food! There were giant bagels the other day.... cake a few weeks ago... just always something. (I resisted the bagels, though and only had a bite of cake without the frosting...) I've had oatmeal already, but it's going to be a long morning of meetings- till 1:00. I may end up giving in just a little. :( I wish they would bring in healthy stuff, but that's never gonna happen, I guess.

Meri- that sucks! I bet it all sorts itself out after the weaning/period are over.  :hug:

Anyway.. off to the meetings. I'm going to Hilton Head after work. I can't wait. I brought my running stuff, too! :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 08:31:39 AM
i think some people truly do not know what healthy means. My running partner was telling me how healthy they eat and no processed foods, then in the next breath was talking about how they make lipton boxed rice for dinner all the time  :confused: and they eat a lot of processed foods!!!! They get a food delivery service once a month of frozen stuff (veggie burgers, chicken nuggets, etc). I think some people are just clueless. your cw may just think healthy means no mcD's!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 09, 2012, 08:44:00 AM
Lanark, do you feel comfortable with the principal to have a private conversation about this with her?  Maybe put it in the perspective of:

Thank you so much for all the goodies for teacher work day.  It was a real temptation for me because I'm trying to lose a few pounds and get fitter before my wedding.  I know this subject has been on your mind too, since you lost your dear husband last year.   Could we maybe start a Get Healthy program for the staff so we can focus on better food and exercise choices?  Maybe a lunchtime or before work walking club? It would be so helpful to me to have my coworker's support.

That way you're not preaching or complaining, but requesting help and offering suggestions.

DH ate the entire package of Oreos already.  He asked if I'd eaten any, saying the package couldn't possibly have disappeared that fast unless we were both eating them.  Ha!  I didn't eat any.


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 09, 2012, 09:25:28 AM
The damn dog stole my waffles this morning, so I'm having clementines for breakfast. I have yogurt for my morning snack, too, so I can eat that if the clementines don't hold me.

Last day of work before Spring Break - yay!

Anyone have any ideas on how to get DH on board with weight loss?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 09, 2012, 09:46:55 AM
What is brown butter?

You let the solids brown before you cook in it. It gets very nutty tasting.

L, I have yhe same issues at work. Someone always brings something in!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: radial on March 09, 2012, 09:59:38 AM
You let the solids brown before you cook in it. It gets very nutty tasting.

L, I have yhe same issues at work. Someone always brings something in!

Oh, we always called that burning the butter and considered it a mistake.  But now I see that it's an actual culinary technique.  Awesome!  Next time I mess up the eggs I'm telling them, "Enjoy the nutty flavor of my skillfully prepared beurre noisette."   :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 10:09:36 AM
Oh, we always called that burning the butter and considered it a mistake.  But now I see that it's an actual culinary technique.  Awesome!  Next time I mess up the eggs I'm telling them, "Enjoy the nutty flavor of my skillfully prepared beurre noisette."   :D
:D :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 09, 2012, 10:15:17 AM
Oh, we always called that burning the butter and considered it a mistake.  But now I see that it's an actual culinary technique.  Awesome!  Next time I mess up the eggs I'm telling them, "Enjoy the nutty flavor of my skillfully prepared beurre noisette."   :D

  :d Well, like anything, it has a place. It was great paired with the stronger flavors of the brussles sprouts and the shallots as a savory, hearty, dinner dish. With a delicate scramble? Maybe notsomuch. It "breaks" the butter so that you end up with distinct solids and oil- which works sometimes and not others.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 09, 2012, 11:20:44 AM
We are meeting a friend for dinner at a pizza place so I am trying to eat light and healthy today. Wish me luck in making good choices tonight. I need to figure out how many ww points are in a slice of pizza.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 09, 2012, 11:40:14 AM
You can do it MM! Eat a filling snack before you go. Then eat a big salad when you get there.

Pizza is a big point of weakness for me!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 09, 2012, 11:41:29 AM
Depends on the kind of pizza. I try to avoid it just because there are so many variables. :( I love pizza.

I've had my yogurt and 2 damn clementines today. I cannot *wait* for lunch. I've never been so excited about a PB&J before.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 11:52:25 AM
I love pizza. I think it is avg 350 cals/slice.  i am sure WW has points on line somewhere for pizza. If it is a chain, you can check out online resources.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 09, 2012, 12:59:06 PM
I usually work from home on Fridays but not today.  I didn't have much food left to bring with me so I packed an apple, banana, and greek yogurt and figured I'd pick up something for lunch.  I had to run over to Staples and on the way back I passed a Panera. 

I have been so hungry all the damn time lately with all this marathon training and boxing and stuff, but I'm trying so hard to make good choices because I do not want to gain any weight.  So I drove past the Panera and went to the grocrey store and picked up what turned to be a gross ass salad with pieces of grilled chicken.  Well the salad part was okay but the chicken was awful.  I really longed for Panera.  But I smothered the chicken in the low cal dressing and ate it anyway.   That combined with the yogurt filled me up at least.  I am just pissed at that gross salad.

I want something delicious for dinnner!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 09, 2012, 01:13:04 PM
I usually work from home on Fridays but not today.  I didn't have much food left to bring with me so I packed an apple, banana, and greek yogurt and figured I'd pick up something for lunch.  I had to run over to Staples and on the way back I passed a Panera. 

I have been so hungry all the damn time lately with all this marathon training and boxing and stuff, but I'm trying so hard to make good choices because I do not want to gain any weight.  So I drove past the Panera and went to the grocrey store and picked up what turned to be a gross ass salad with pieces of grilled chicken.  Well the salad part was okay but the chicken was awful.  I really longed for Panera.  But I smothered the chicken in the low cal dressing and ate it anyway.   That combined with the yogurt filled me up at least.  I am just pissed at that gross salad.

I want something delicious for dinnner!

Oh that sucks! :( I hope you get something extra yummy tonight!

And Mini, thanks for the idea. They actually tried to get something like that started this year (workout/walking groups), but I think people just weren't motivated enough. I've only got 9 more weeks of working here, not counting spring break!, so I should just keep my mouth shut. I had some of the scrambled eggs and a tiny bit of grits when I went down. They were giving out snacks in all 4 meeting and I took some pretzels in this last one to eat with my (plain) swiss on 9 grain sandwich from home. I don't feel too terrible, though pretzels are very carby with pretty much no nutritional value. Bah!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 09, 2012, 01:25:20 PM
But of all the junky snack foods, pretzels do the least damage.  And they are just so delicious. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 01:42:28 PM
nothing worse than a crappy ass meal :(

I know when i ran my first marathon, i was soooo hungry that i gained weight. This has been a struggle since. Somewhere between the "i am hungry from all the training" and "i ran xx miles i deserve to eat this yummy thing" is the middle ground i strive to find :D

I am hoping to see some movement on the scale some time soon. I am trying my best to be patient, but no real movement in over a month? i know my hormones are wacky (forgot to add the night sweats) but SHEESH!!!!!!! I guess if  see no change in the next couple weeks i may go to the dr or something. i really do not know what to do and i do not want to do anything drastic (like really cut my calories) but i am getting realllllly annoyed. I am sorry for being such a debbie downer here! but i tried to balance it out iwth my comic i posted yesterday that no one else thought was as funny as i did :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 09, 2012, 01:59:35 PM
Meri, seeing a nutritionist or a doctor would probably be awesome for you since you are in such a unique situation:
-Vegan
-Ultrarunner
-Weaning.

Your body has a lot going on right now!   Maybe a professional can offer new insight or suggest changes.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 09, 2012, 02:11:04 PM
Caito, I was just thinking about you and the boxing yesterday!  How's that going? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 09, 2012, 02:11:58 PM
Hi all!!

MM, can you just not have pizza and opt for a salad???

Lancashire, try getting a foam roller for your legs and butt. It works out the tightness and really helps with itbs. Are you doing the Jillian program with all the discs??

RA, date nights are not held to the same rigorous standard as non date nights. Enjoy!!

I am holding steady weight wise... I don't think I will make goal weight before Maui. I am doing great on exercise though and my food choices have been pretty good. Apparently I am in maintenance mode!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 09, 2012, 02:23:46 PM
Meri... I think Caito had a great point about a nutritionist/doctor.
I can't imagine your frustration.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 09, 2012, 02:26:13 PM
Caito, I was just thinking about you and the boxing yesterday!  How's that going? 

It's awesome!  I am definitely improving, but of course I still have a long way to go.  I'm landing good punches though!   It's amazing how running a long distance seems totally managable, but a 30 minute boxing workout  -- even a 2 minute round -- just totally kicks my ass.    For now while I'm focused on running, we're just doing fun drills and stuff.  I'm not really focusing on preparing to get in a ring with anyone or anything like that.

I'm still lifting weights too and have been increasing the weight lately, so that combined with all the running I feel like I am just a furnace burning through food.  I think I've slimmed down a bit, but since I'm constantly hungry (even more so than usual!)  it's been a challenge to know what I NEED to eat as opposed to what I WANT to eat.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 09, 2012, 02:44:37 PM
We are meeting a friend for dinner at a pizza place so I am trying to eat light and healthy today. Wish me luck in making good choices tonight. I need to figure out how many WW points are in a slice of pizza.

I asked my WW leader how much a slice of pizza from a pizzeria like we all go to here in NY is and she said 7 for a plain cheese slice. Your pizzas may vary.
I have two slices of veggie pizza at my bike club board meeting once a month with no guilt whatsoever. Veggies are free. Almost every week after that meeting I have had a loss at the scale.
MM, you are supposed to use those weekly points! They are there to make the plan livable. That said, Saturday is your weigh in day so don't overdo.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 09, 2012, 02:46:05 PM
Hi all!!

MM, can you just not have pizza and opt for a salad???


Of course I *can* but realistically I cannot watch other people eat pizza while I eat a boring ass salad (and the good salads are just as many points as pizza).

Plus I have been on points every single day this week so I can probably get away with a piece or two and a garden salad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on March 09, 2012, 03:21:37 PM

I have been so hungry all the damn time lately with all this marathon training and boxing and stuff, but I'm trying so hard to make good choices because I do not want to gain any weight. 


So, I have done quite a bit of marathon training and always found my hunger to be almost out of control. I was struggling not to gain weight, and ultimately, I cannot say I ever gained more than 2 pounds ever, which I then lost.  Since I am injured now, I am not running at all.  I have NO hunger whatsoever, and no, I am not depressed or so.  I just seem to eat small portions and be satisfied, and then forget about food.  It's a new sensation.  And one that puts the high-mileage training in a perspective, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 03:45:47 PM
i sent a friend who is a nutritionist and dietician a long email, will report back what she says.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 09, 2012, 04:32:47 PM
Of course I *can* but realistically I cannot watch other people eat pizza while I eat a boring ass salad (and the good salads are just as many points as pizza).

Plus I have been on points every single day this week so I can probably get away with a piece or two and a garden salad.
ha!!  I hear you.... Maybe get a thin crust pizza??
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 09, 2012, 04:44:31 PM
Meri I hope your friend can give you some good advice with all that you've got going on.
MM I'm not one to resist pizza either while everyone else eats it.  Savor every delicious bite!
caito, glad the boxing is going so well.  I can imagine it is such great stress relief to beat the crap out of something.
Mouse, maintenance mode is better than gaining mode.  Keep it up and I bet you'll get a shift in weight soon.

I've not been checking in as much, but I'm in maintenance mode too.  DH thinks I'm cooking up so much food lately for an apocalypse.  I'm trying to get the freezer packed so I can take a long break from cooking for awhile and still have lots of variety.  I also thinking cooking has taken over my obsessiveness that I had for the WLC and Decluttering.

I managed to get in 4.4 miles today, push ups AND ab work....the abs usually get ignored but they are what I need work on the most.  Anyway... I'm sporting a nice black eye today after getting knocked by the back of D's head.  Didn't bother him at all but put me on the floor and it started swelling immediately.  I was quick with the ice pack so I think that really limited the damage.

Looking forward to spending tomorrow with a few CHers! :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 05:05:14 PM
wow. my friend is awesome! she called me and gave me a list (which she will email to me) of bloodwork to get done. She is a thyroid specialist and wanted more specific tests drawn, as well as other things like zinc levels. She is also concerned that i may have some sort of insulin resistance based on some symptoms of low blood sugar and family history. Something i never considered. She also wanted me to use a new tracking program (my plate app?) to track micronutrients and wonders if there is some micronutrient issue and that i should be really good about taking my multi (i am not good at taking it). I will call my dr on monday and talk to her about getting the bloodwork tests done.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 09, 2012, 05:15:54 PM
She is also concerned that i may have some sort of insulin resistance

Ahem... I commented on this *pages* ago.  :P
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 05:20:34 PM
Ahem... I commented on this *pages* ago.  :P
:D It is something i never thought about, but she started really asking a lot of questions and i was like, maybe. I usually see menstrual or fertility issues with my patients who have insulin resistance, but i had no problem getting pregnant, luckily, and got pregnant on my first cycle trying.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 09, 2012, 05:30:33 PM
That's great news, Meri.  I hope you get the answers you are looking for!
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Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 06:01:44 PM
That's great news, Meri.  I hope you get the answers you are looking for!
yes me too. there has to be something going on here beyond the good ol calories in and calories out. she said if all these tests come back ok, the next would be a cortisol saliva test that you do throughout the day to test those levels.
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Post by: merigayle on March 09, 2012, 07:58:11 PM
so the last thing I could think of in my body's mystery is the Mirena, HOWEVER, i had one prior to getting pregnant and LOST weight with it. I did google Mirena + weight gain and got a crazy amount of information of women gaining weight and/or not losing weight on the Mirena, so that could be an answer as well, though since i lost weight prior with it, I dunno.
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Post by: Bolloxd on March 09, 2012, 08:34:43 PM
Getting my mirena out is what kick started my weight loss.
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Post by: debbatx on March 09, 2012, 08:36:55 PM
Yeah, but you've had a baby since then. My body has not reacted the same since Reid was born, that's for damn sure. Allergies have been my biggest issue, though. Weight gain is directly attributable to Ben & Jerry. And whichever company makes Skittles. And Coca-Cola. I hope you figure it out, Meri!

So I'm sitting here with like an extra 8 points for today, since I didn't have my normal breakfast or afternoon snack. And I've had dinner. Not sure what I'm going to do.

Dinner was delicious - char siu pork in the crock pot, basmati rice, and frozen stir-fry veggies.
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Post by: seattlegirl on March 10, 2012, 12:10:38 AM
11 hour day with a 5 minute lunch break.  I got fast food for dinner.  I'm exhausted. 
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Post by: merigayle on March 10, 2012, 06:44:55 AM
Getting my mirena out is what kick started my weight loss.
interesting. yeah, that was my thought, body is different after baby. who knows. i do not want the paraguard but having another baby is not an option for too many reasons and DH won't get a V  :-[ though i am not sure we are ready to be that final about it.
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Post by: debbatx on March 10, 2012, 08:23:20 AM
Just curious, why no paragard? Not that it's any of my business.
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Post by: merigayle on March 10, 2012, 08:35:37 AM
Just curious, why no paragard? Not that it's any of my business.
the main side effect is very heavy and painful periods. It would be the option if i removed the mirena. does anyone here have the paraguard? I had one period before getting pregnant with DD and it was HORRIBLE and i cannot imagine every period like that, or worse. I have had the mirena, except when pregnant, for 10 years! I am used to little or no period. I would probably remove the mirena and do the paraguard after Badwater. Last thing I need is to have a hemmorage during the race where you wear all white :D
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Post by: Jamers86 on March 10, 2012, 09:31:36 AM
Well that isn't a winning endorsement for mirena....
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Post by: debbatx on March 10, 2012, 10:21:45 AM
Hah - okay, I'd read that about paragard, but wasn't sure if that was your reason for saying no, or if you knew something else about it. I'm seriously considering an IUD of some kind after kid #2 and have heard good and bad about both.

I think I'd rather have heavier periods than gain weight.
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Post by: Run Amok on March 10, 2012, 11:07:20 AM
Back down about .6 today. They didn't have the dessert I wanted. I had a salad and an artichoke for dinner. A glass of scotch and a beer.

It would be easy to blame mirena for my weight... But, I feel pretty strongly that it's diet related for me.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 10, 2012, 11:17:22 AM
11 hour day with a 5 minute lunch break.  I got fast food for dinner.  I'm exhausted. 
:buttpat: I hope you have today off.

Meri, I had paraguard for 10 years. I got it when I was 35. I had some pretty heavy periods the first 3-5 months but after that it was a non issue. I loved it.  I had it removed, and did not get another one because Dh did decide to have a vasectomy. (I love him). (We knew we were not having kids, and did not want any chance of a surprise at our age so he went ahead and eliminated the need for me to have to get a new one.)


Ugh. I am going to get some kind of exercise today in between running around all day.


Has anyone been reading the news about all the unseasonably wet, flooding weather in Hawaii? Primarily in Kauai and Oahu..but Maui is getting hit too.  :(  This is typical for me to have my search for warmth and sun to be thwarted. I leave in a week and it is thunderstorms, hailing and flooding. Great.
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Post by: seattlegirl on March 10, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
Bummer about Hawaii, Mouse!  Maybe it will clear soon?

Yes, I have today off.  I was so tired last night, I felt like I could FEEL the exhaustion in every bit of my body from my hair to my toes.  Today is better.  :)
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 10, 2012, 11:32:04 AM
I had too much pizza last night but with weekly points I am still good. Hopefully tomorrows weigh in goes well.
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Post by: merigayle on March 10, 2012, 12:43:26 PM
mmm pizza.

well, i have been super good 95% of the time for 2.5 months almost with my food, exercising regularly except the one week where DD was sick, so I cannot blame that on my lack of weight loss, so now it is like go thru the list and find out what it is. Mouse-- thanks for the info on the paraguard, that is why i would do it after Badwater, don't need to deal with that until after the race. It's definitely an option i am looking at, but i was 10lbs lighter last year, with the same Mirena, so it is not my first culprit. My friend really thinks it is insulin resistance.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 10, 2012, 01:21:54 PM
Thank god my son went back to school!  It's so much harder when he is here.. We got out to eat more, get pizza and junk more... When I only have to worry about myself I can just have egg beaters and veggies for dinner!

I'm glad it coincided with my week off from BL contest.  I did pretty much eat what I wanted and thankfully didn't do any damage, but I want to talk off another 10-12 lbs... so back at it today!
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Post by: Run Amok on March 10, 2012, 01:42:51 PM
From what I've learned about insulin... It seems that it is a critical component.
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Post by: Courtney on March 10, 2012, 01:52:49 PM
Hah - okay, I'd read that about paragard, but wasn't sure if that was your reason for saying no, or if you knew something else about it. I'm seriously considering an IUD of some kind after kid #2 and have heard good and bad about both.

I think I'd rather have heavier periods than gain weight.

I've had the mirena now for nearly 4 years and haven't had any issues with weight.  Well, I've had issues, but I'm 99% sure they are due to my actions, not the mirena :D  It's awesome not having periods.  AWESOME.  DH is probably going to get a V at some point, but I'm tempted to keep the mirena just so that I don't have periods. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 10, 2012, 02:13:59 PM
I've had the mirena now for nearly 4 years and haven't had any issues with weight.  Well, I've had issues, but I'm 99% sure they are due to my actions, not the mirena :D  It's awesome not having periods.  AWESOME.  DH is probably going to get a V at some point, but I'm tempted to keep the mirena just so that I don't have periods. 

Same here. Well other than antag getting the v...I don't think I could talk him into that one.
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 10, 2012, 02:24:06 PM
I just managed to get out of au bon pain with only a cup of coffee. This morning's hike was fun but it was less than 4 miles and I didn't burn as much as I'd hoped. 

I made a great lunch when I got home- tomatoes papaya tofu cheese and egg scrambled up and stuffed in a whole wheat tortilla.

I'm glad I got out to hike this morning because tomorrow will likely be taken up with family stuff and I probably won't have time to get any exercise beyond dog walking.
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Post by: Miss on March 10, 2012, 02:43:45 PM
So my doctor said I could start running again a week after my surgery, but I am still having pain and I'm quite tired after doing just housework!  I'm wondering how long I should I wait?  I'm dying to get back into my routine but I don't want to push it and then be forced to take a lot more time off.
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Post by: Run Amok on March 10, 2012, 02:43:45 PM
I've had the mirena now for nearly 4 years and haven't had any issues with weight.  Well, I've had issues, but I'm 99% sure they are due to my actions, not the mirena :D  It's awesome not having periods.  AWESOME.  DH is probably going to get a V at some point, but I'm tempted to keep the mirena just so that I don't have periods. 

Another postive reviewer here! I'm on my second mirena so maybe around 7 years for me? *love* it. I did actually gain weight after getting the Mirena but since better controlling my intake seems to fixing the problem, I have a hard time blaming it on the mirena. Plus, I was on BCP for years and years before going the mirena route. I understand that typically with studies of hormonal birth control and weight gain, anecdata seems strong for correlation but when they actually look into it, there doesn't appear to be much there. Suggesting, perhaps, that hormonal birth control is easier than blaming diet and other factors.

The mirena has mad the question of the V pretty obsolete in our household. As others have mentioned, I'd probably keep it anyway. I get really bad cramps and have zero interest in dealing with that again. The lack of periods (ok, after the first year or two, I end up with one day of very light spotting that the lightest panty liners take care of- sometimes they aren't even necessary) is enough to make me want to keep it, even if that weren't a factor.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 10, 2012, 03:04:25 PM
So last weekend the same day we joined weight watchers we went to Target to register. In the parking lot they are building some sort of fast food restaraunt. Antag pegged it as an In-N-Out purely based on the shape of the building and he was right.  :yikes: Now it won't be 15 miles away...it will be a couple. I am so in trouble!
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Post by: merigayle on March 10, 2012, 03:09:38 PM
Miss- i would listen to your body and just walk and see how you feel.

Yeah, i am about 10 years for Mirena.
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Post by: Bolloxd on March 10, 2012, 03:51:45 PM
Miss take it easy for sure... light exercise to start.

For me the mirena didn't cause weight gain, but I didn't really lose with it either....once it was out I just felt better and the weight fell off easier.  It was my kick in the butt to start running again too.  I think I am over sensitive to any hormones, even natural every day hormones, so I get all of the exaggerated side effects from any type of BC.

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Post by: debbatx on March 10, 2012, 04:55:03 PM
I'm wondering if the insulin resistance (if that's what it is) could be caused/affected by the hormones in the mirena? I mean, I know it's a low dose of the hormones, but you seem to be doing everything else right, meri.

I dunno, just a thought.

I'm nowhere near needing one right now, so I'm just keeping an eye and ear out to stories about both types.

Have done fine with food today. Was down about 5 this morning. A lot of that was water weight, I'm sure, but I'll take what I can get! Going out tonight, but I'll be fine. No exercise today - it's been pouring rain on and off all day long. We desperately need the rain, so I can't complain too much.

Planning on getting up and doing yoga tomorrow.
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Post by: merigayle on March 10, 2012, 06:10:40 PM
who knows. chicken and egg thing, right? LOL. Looking forward to getting some blood work done and hopefully getting some answers. i am so tired of being disgusted with my body and having zero control over it. it is really affecting my self esteem, especially with an upcoming race this month :(
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Post by: debbatx on March 10, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
I'd want answers, too - I hope you get them!
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Post by: merigayle on March 11, 2012, 08:14:25 AM
this time change sucks! LOL. DD woke up really early, so maybe she will adjust ok to the time change. I am having a hard time motivating myself out the door for my run, but i ate my prerun Sunday toast, so i have to :D
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 11, 2012, 12:11:13 PM
Weigh in today. Let's hope it is good. Already did a really short run.
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Post by: merigayle on March 11, 2012, 12:51:27 PM
Weigh in today. Let's hope it is good. Already did a really short run.
good luck!!
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Post by: Run Amok on March 11, 2012, 01:03:43 PM
Good luck today MM!

I saw another new # on the scale this morning.  :D I don't know what I did to deserve this, but I'll take it. I feel like I'm eating exactly the same way I did through the 3 weeks I was stuck. Just when you think you have this weight thing figured out... Now I'm back to hoping I can make it into a new decade before my trip. It's just 2 weeks away though so, I doubt it.

I went through my whole closet yesterday and donated a huge bag of stuff. Anything that was stained, or the hem had fallen, or I had saved hoping it would fit me better when I lost weight (but it didn't), or that I didn't love the fit on- out! I have a few things I'm going to try and have tailored. Of course, I had to try on every stinking thing and now I'm all annoyed about sizes again. I have some 8's that are a little loose, but still fit. All of my 6's fit. Some of my 4's fit, though a bit snug in the pants still (shirts fit though). How can I fit both a 4 and an 8?
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Post by: Bolloxd on March 11, 2012, 03:59:57 PM
MM good luck with the weigh in!
RA - it's odd and frustrating how the sizes can be so different.  Still, nice that you cleared out the clothes that just weren't getting used....more room for new stuff!
meri - the time change messes up the twins too.  Well, actually they are OK...it is me that it bothers the most.

Just finished up a 4.5 mile run and some push ups....I am starving.  I'm always so hungry after a run.  I'm tempted to make an Orange Pound Cake either today or tomorrow. 

My black eye is looking worse than yesterday and my cheek is still sore to touch.  Anyone know of a way to clear up bruising quickly?
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 11, 2012, 04:01:51 PM
3.8...yay!!!

Antag lost double that.  >:(
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Post by: Run Amok on March 11, 2012, 06:34:45 PM
3.8...yay!!!

Antag lost double that.  >:(

Wowza! Nice going to both of you. 4lbs in a week is awesome!
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Post by: merigayle on March 11, 2012, 06:52:44 PM
Good job to both of you!
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Post by: Miss on March 11, 2012, 08:13:56 PM
Ran 3.2 miles today, and felt great; feeling a bit of pain in the surgery area tonight but I don't care! Just glad to have gotten out there today.  Can't seem to not go over my WW points; but today is the beginning of my second week so I hope I will be more successful. 

Congrats to everyone that is having WL success!
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Post by: debbatx on March 11, 2012, 08:21:38 PM
MM - good job!! Just think of it as antag having more to lose than you, so he needs a head start. :)

Miss, seriously, it's OKAY if you eat those weekly points!

RA, hooray for a new number! The scale was up this morning, but then down this afternoon to a good spot, so I think I'm okay.

The time change messed us up, too, except it meant that Reid slept in really late. No complaints, other than that I hope he goes to bed on time!
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Post by: Run Amok on March 11, 2012, 08:29:42 PM
Went to lunch with a friend... which ended up kind of weird. I don't like to talk about dieting with skinny people. I just don't. This is one of my skinny friends. We went to a thai restaurant.  I ordered a veggie stir fry kind of meal with the tofu not fried. She commented that I didn't get my usual noodle dish. Then she commented that I didn't get my tofu fried (because she knows I prefer it that way). Then she commented that I didn't eat any of my rice. Then she commented that I didn't finish my meal and didn't want to box it up (this is one of my new things... if I eat a meal out, I eat half and don't take the other half home usually- in this case, I ate all the veggies and some of the tofu). At the end they bring a tiny scoop of crappy mango ice cream on a spoon. I didn't eat mine... yep, commented on that too. She's one of those people that can eat/drink whatever the hell she wants and is still a size 2- despite eating like crap (I suspect she eats one large meal a day). Oh, I also ordered mango sticky rice- this place does it soooooo well and they don't have it on the menu unless they are getting good mangos. So, that wasn't great- but I'll have a light dinner to compensate (I still have some roasted brussles so I'll probably have those and maybe an egg).
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Post by: debbatx on March 11, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
Man, that would irritate the hell out of me. Why do people think it's okay to comment on what you are or aren't eating?
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Post by: Courtney on March 11, 2012, 09:53:44 PM
Man, that would irritate the hell out of me. Why do people think it's okay to comment on what you are or aren't eating?

This sort of thing truly makes me want to punch people.  And I'm totally a lover, not a fighter.  But this brings it out in me. 
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Post by: debbatx on March 11, 2012, 10:46:06 PM
I'd either want to punch them or mess with their heads.

Wait - I'd do both, actually.
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 12, 2012, 08:56:49 AM
Yesterday did some emotional eating.  My father-in-law's health is declining and it's bringing up memories of when my dad died.  So I ate about a thousand calories of graham crackers.   Seriously - two packs out of a three-pack box.  But given my planned deficit, those calories shouldn't have put me up much more than a thousand over what I'd need to eat to maintain. 

The scale was up 4 fucking pounds this morning.  FML.  I've got to figure out a better way to channel my emotions. 

My husband was wise not to comment on my graham cracker binge. 

RA, I would have went ballistic on anybody commenting on what I eat/don't it.  Mind yer fucking business! 

YAY to MM and antag on WW success!
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Post by: debbatx on March 12, 2012, 09:15:27 AM
Awwww, Mini. I'm sorry. I'd probably have binged, too. If it helps at all, I seriously doubt that a graham cracker binge could have caused you to gain 4 pounds overnight. Otherwise, Reid would weigh more than I do. It's probably water weight.

I'm on Spring Break this week. It's going to be very challenging to not fall into my old habit of "Oooooh, I have the house to myself! I'll go to the grocery store and pick up a binge for lunch and NO ONE WILL KNOW!!!!" Yeah. Last night I was trying to figure out what to do this week, and my brain just went "Peanut butter cup ice cream!"

But I had a number on the scale this morning that I haven't seen in a good long while, so I'm planning on ignoring my brain as much as possible.

Need to go for a run later this morning.
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Post by: diablita on March 12, 2012, 09:35:56 AM
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I seriously doubt that a graham cracker binge could have caused you to gain 4 pounds overnight. Otherwise, Reid would weigh more than I do.

LOL.  But sorry about your FIL's health, Mini. 

I am back with ya.  I haven't dropped a pound and need the scale to keep going down. 
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Post by: Run Amok on March 12, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Mini...  :hug:

Debba- that definitely helps build motivation, doesn't it?

I'm back up .4lb today. Not shocking considering the salty/sweet/carbolicious meal I had for lunch y'day. Today will be a DFW day!

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Post by: Miss on March 12, 2012, 09:42:09 AM
Down 3 lbs WOOHOO! 

Even with my Girl Scout cookie binge last night.   :-[

Speaking of GS cookies, last night everyone in the family had some GS cookies and we all slept HORRIBLY.  Tossed and turned all night, felt like we had 2 cups of coffee.   :wtf:

I just googled to find out if there is MSG or even caffeine in the cookies but I haven't come up with anything yet.  It is the only thing we all ate the some of.
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Post by: debbatx on March 12, 2012, 09:57:55 AM
I had a hell of a time sleeping last night, too - I had chalked it up to the time change, though. No GSC in the house at the moment. (I'm lying, there are some in the freezer, but I'm pretending I don't know that.)

And yeah, seeing that number was really motivating. I'm waiting for the fog to burn off to run so I don't get run over. Near zero visibility right now. No thanks!
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Post by: hally on March 12, 2012, 10:28:22 AM

I went through my whole closet yesterday and donated a huge bag of stuff. Anything that was stained, or the hem had fallen, or I had saved hoping it would fit me better when I lost weight (but it didn't), or that I didn't love the fit on- out! I have a few things I'm going to try and have tailored. Of course, I had to try on every stinking thing and now I'm all annoyed about sizes again. I have some 8's that are a little loose, but still fit. All of my 6's fit. Some of my 4's fit, though a bit snug in the pants still (shirts fit though). How can I fit both a 4 and an 8?

We've discussed this before. Women's sizing sucks and varies a ton. When did they come up with this size 0 shit? Try to ignore the number on a label and if it fits well, or can be altered to fit well because it's a piece you love, then wear it. Cut the damn size label out.

Men's sizes do not vary like this. It's another ploy to manipulate women!
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Post by: hally on March 12, 2012, 10:36:43 AM
WTG MM and Antag on the WW weigh in! And Miss!


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Post by: onawhim on March 12, 2012, 10:43:39 AM
Welp my mom has been in the ICU since Sat so food atm is bad tasting and bad for me.  I could really go for some mango sticky rice. 
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Post by: diablita on March 12, 2012, 10:50:42 AM
Welp my mom has been in the ICU since Sat so food atm is bad tasting and bad for me.  I could really go for some mango sticky rice. 

:(
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Post by: Run Amok on March 12, 2012, 10:52:46 AM
Welp my mom has been in the ICU since Sat so food atm is bad tasting and bad for me.  I could really go for some mango sticky rice. 

Oh no! So sorry to hear that. What's going on with her, if you don't mind me asking?
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Post by: merigayle on March 12, 2012, 10:54:59 AM
Welp my mom has been in the ICU since Sat so food atm is bad tasting and bad for me.  I could really go for some mango sticky rice.
hope she is ok!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 12, 2012, 10:57:25 AM
Welp my mom has been in the ICU since Sat so food atm is bad tasting and bad for me.  I could really go for some mango sticky rice. 

Oh no.  I'm so sorry.  I hope everything is okay.
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Post by: onawhim on March 12, 2012, 11:00:35 AM
Oh no! So sorry to hear that. What's going on with her, if you don't mind me asking?

She went to the ER with a GI bleed and they gave her tons of blood and then they think but are not sure that she had an adverse reaction to the blood products.  So as she was bleeding out she developed a flash pulmonary edema and her heart stopped.  When I got the call they were asking for my consent for emergency surgery since she was on life support.  Anyway she is doing a bit better and they think if she continues to improve she will be off the breathing tube tomorrow  :fingers:  She lives 5 hours away from me so I rushed down there when I got the call.  My brother who I have not spoken to in years in flying in tomorrow.  Eh what can you do?
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Post by: debbatx on March 12, 2012, 11:06:08 AM
Holy shit! I hope she's on the mend soon!
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Post by: caito on March 12, 2012, 11:42:15 AM
I had to pick up snacks for our medical staff meeting today.  At 10:30am I broke into the cookies.  250 calories, so delicious.   Now my tummy hurts and I feel bad about eating that cookie.

And during the meeting, I know I'm going to eat some cheese.    Blerg.
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 12, 2012, 11:49:39 AM
{{onawhim}}  Take my word for it, emotional eating doesn't make you feel better - but do what you need to do.  Hope she's better soon! 

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We've discussed this before. Women's sizing sucks and varies a ton. When did they come up with this size 0 shit? Try to ignore the number on a label and if it fits well, or can be altered to fit well because it's a piece you love, then wear it. Cut the damn size label out.

Men's sizes do not vary like this. It's another ploy to manipulate women!

1 to all of this.  I have pants sized 8-14 that all fit approximately the same.  I call myself a 10, but I wear what fits.  I've had to take in one pair of 10s because they wouldn't stay on my hips, but to my chagrin those 14s still fit fine. 

And I am STARVING today.  I keep thinking about the scale being +4 from yesterday and I don't want to eat anything but I want, want, want. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on March 12, 2012, 12:18:22 PM
She went to the ER with a GI bleed and they gave her tons of blood and then they think but are not sure that she had an adverse reaction to the blood products.  So as she was bleeding out she developed a flash pulmonary edema and her heart stopped.  When I got the call they were asking for my consent for emergency surgery since she was on life support.  Anyway she is doing a bit better and they think if she continues to improve she will be off the breathing tube tomorrow  :fingers:  She lives 5 hours away from me so I rushed down there when I got the call.  My brother who I have not spoken to in years in flying in tomorrow. Eh what can you do?

Take a hug, at the very least, {{onawhim}}
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on March 12, 2012, 12:19:22 PM
Thanks guys  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on March 12, 2012, 12:20:23 PM
I had to pick up snacks for our medical staff meeting today.  At 10:30am I broke into the cookies.  250 calories, so delicious.   Now my tummy hurts and I feel bad about eating that cookie.

And during the meeting, I know I'm going to eat some cheese.    Blerg.

Given your training intensity, you might just be hitting a point where you need a bit of rest and a few more calories.

I'm taking today completely off exercise and will likely say yes to some wine and quiche for dinner (friend is cooking and that's what she wants).  With v.sore toes and tired hamstrings and a 1/2 coming up Saturday ... I refuse to feel badly for any of it.  Join me :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Miss on March 12, 2012, 12:30:15 PM
Take a hug, at the very least, {{onawhim}}


Take two! :thismuch:

Thinking of you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 12, 2012, 12:49:23 PM
Just got back from a shuffle! Yay! Forgot to use my inhaler beforehand! Boo!

Actually, considering I was gasping for breath by the end, I did pretty well. I was just in such a rush to get out of the house before I lost my nerve/momentum, that I didn't even think about the inhaler. Oops. Don't think I'll make that mistake again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 12, 2012, 12:52:30 PM
Another day. I plan to run tonight. My last run yesterday went pretty badly (I couldn't breathe and I kept coughing until I almost puked...the sad part was this was after about a mile). I just suck at mornings for some reason.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 12, 2012, 01:04:39 PM
I suck at running pretty much any time. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 12, 2012, 01:51:40 PM
Given your training intensity, you might just be hitting a point where you need a bit of rest and a few more calories.

I'm taking today completely off exercise and will likely say yes to some wine and quiche for dinner (friend is cooking and that's what she wants).  With v.sore toes and tired hamstrings and a 1/2 coming up Saturday ... I refuse to feel badly for any of it.  Join me :)

Yeah I know you're right.  And my toenails are sore too! 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 12, 2012, 01:58:38 PM
onawhim please take a few more hugs!   :hug: :hug: :hug:

Today is my day to catch up on some cleaning/cooking during nap time- see how that's working out for me?  I'm in the CH.

DH has been out doing some errands so I've had the kids running around outside as much as possible before any potential rain keeps us indoors.  So, that has burned quite a bit of energy!  It really has been such a fun day.  That actually ate breakfast and lunch very well ...more eating than throwing/smearing.  Lots of giggles and just running around.  No naptime or bedtime issues anymore which has been awesome.  I'll also state that colored sidewalk chalk is NOT just for kids.  :hah:

Right, must do some laundry...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 12, 2012, 09:07:13 PM
fun, bolloxd!

More hugs coming at ya, onawhim  :hug: :hug: :hug:


I had a planned rest day today and my buddy went to the pet groomer for a much-needed bath (he rolled in deer poop yesterday; I washed him a bit but not well enough with all that long fur) and shave since we're hitting the 70's this week.  Boo...I want the cooler weather for a while.

I also ate pretty healthfully although not as well as on the "i" diet.  Might start that up next week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on March 12, 2012, 09:56:45 PM
I love it when Daylight Savings time starts, because it's light enough for me to get in a run after work.  Today's run sucked because I haven't been able to bring myself to run on the treadmill for over a month now.  It was OUTSIDE though, and that made it automatically delightful.

Yogurt for breakfast plus a handful of cocoa roasted almonds, sweet pork salad for lunch (not the healthiest choice, but delicious!) and polenta with meat sauce for dinner tonight.  I need to go to the grocery store and get some produce so I can have some salads this week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 13, 2012, 07:54:32 AM
Did not call the dr yesterday and she is not in today, tomorrow for sure. Yesterday was busy from teh time i woke up until bed, did not even get a minute to sit down!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 13, 2012, 08:28:09 AM
Up another 2, for a total of 6 since Sunday.   >:(  >:(  >:( When will I ever learn that self-medicating with grain and sugar is not a good idea?  Fuck me.  It will take ages to get rid of two days of emotional eating.  It goes on so easily and off so hard!  FML.  I am so pissed at myself.  I have to cool down or I'll eat more.   :fsm:, please help me eat my normal meals today and no extras.

On the positive side of things, I did week 1, day 1 of C25K last night.  Felt good, didn't want to stop running at 60 seconds but tried to keep on schedule.  My knees, ankles, and feet are feeling it this morning.  The worst part was my bra wouldn't stay in place and my flabby thighs clapped together sickeningly.   Can't wait til tomorrow for W1, D2. 

diablita - deer poop!   :roll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 13, 2012, 08:39:53 AM
Mini, you are in it for the long haul. The overall trend is downward, focus on that. You've been kicking but over a sustained period of time  and that alone is a great achievement. Weight loss is never a straight line.

I am up two today. Totally expected.

Is mouse still out there? Seattle girl? TK? Bonita? Ellen? Who else is MIA?

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 13, 2012, 09:14:21 AM
Mini- you know i feel your pain!!! no change on the scale today, no surprise there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 13, 2012, 09:32:45 AM
Mini, hang in there - believe me, I know how frustrating it can be to see that scale go up.  :hug: :hug: :hug:

Did W5D3 of the C25K app, so it's not the dreaded 20 minutes yet. Based on today's performance, I'll be repeating today's run on Thursday, because... yeah.  :nono: I did it, but it was a struggle. Oh well, I did it, which is a huge improvement over not doing anything at all. Gym tonight, too. I need to crank up the DFW today.

Right now, waffles and a smoothie for breakfast. Meeting DH for pho for lunch. Dinner is leftovers - not sure what I'm going to have yet. I have yogurt and veggies in the fridge for snacks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 13, 2012, 11:35:01 AM
Mini, you are in it for the long haul. The overall trend is downward, focus on that. You've been kicking but over a sustained period of time  and that alone is a great achievement. Weight loss is never a straight line.

I am up two today. Totally expected.

Is mouse still out there? Seattle girl? TK? Bonita? Ellen? Who else is MIA?


I am here.  I am just hanging tough weight wise. No changes. I have not run or exercised in 3 days...today I will do something.
I am still pouting over the weather forecast for my Maui vacation.  :sigh:



 :hug: to onawhim...I hope your Mom is holding her own.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 13, 2012, 11:47:20 AM
I am still pouting over the weather forecast for my Maui vacation.  :sigh:

When do you guys leave? I have heard it has been pretty bad over there the past couple of weeks.  :fingers: it improves!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 13, 2012, 12:55:23 PM
When do you guys leave? I have heard it has been pretty bad over there the past couple of weeks.  :fingers: it improves!
We leave next Tuesday...and the 10 day forecast is predicting rain, clouds and rain for the most part. If I wanted rain and clouds I could stay home in Humboldt County!

we are considering paying a penalty to reschedule for April..... but it is $600.00 each. for the flight, and I am not sure if I can reschedule the place we are staying.


eta: we are going to suck it up and go.....we can't reschedule the rental....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on March 13, 2012, 09:46:42 PM
I'm still following along... just eating too much.   :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 13, 2012, 09:58:02 PM
So my lunch was a big piece of red velvet cake and dinner was a bag of salt & vinegar chips on the way home from the grocery store.  No exercise.   :-[

Tomorrow has to be better.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 13, 2012, 10:35:34 PM
Gym tonight. 300 baby burpees, 300 squats, 300 Throw the Medicine Ball Up Against the Wall and Catch It, and 2 1-minute planks.

 :whoa: :stupid:

I'm scheduled to get up tomorrow and do yoga. We'll see.

Could have used a few more veggies today, but whatever.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 14, 2012, 07:51:14 AM
On the plus side, I ate well yesterday.

Now the Debbie Downer report:  The scale, which rocketed up the moment I over-ate, stayed put at +6 when I ate right.  There ain't no justice.  My knees have been inflamed and painful since Monday, so I won't be doing C25K.  Maybe I'll try again in the fall. 

And now I have pnemonia or tuberculosis or a cold or something. 

Debbie Downer, signing off. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 14, 2012, 07:57:33 AM
omg Mini,  :hug: :hug: :hug: feel better soon!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 14, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
 :( Mini....that sucks
 :buttpat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 14, 2012, 09:32:44 AM
Crap, Mini. I'm sorry.  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 14, 2012, 09:42:47 AM
I'm feeling better.  I took a peroxicam for my knees and my lungs don't feel quite so leaden.  But I'm still staying home and drinking plenty of fluids.

Very disappointed it's not tuberculosis. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 14, 2012, 10:28:06 AM
Ugh Mini. Not fair!

I'm coming to terms with the fact that I have two stall points in my cycle. I think I'm experiencing the mid-cycle stall. I had hoped there would be a chance I might see a new decade before my trip. But, I leave in 9 days and I'm holding steady- despite not cheating even a teensy weensy itty bit. So, whatever. This is the weight I'm going on vacation at and it'll be fine.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 14, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
I have no idea what peroxicam is, but I hope it helps. Maybe all the water will help, too?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 14, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
Feel better soon Mini.  When I started the C25K (for the 3rd time because of my knees) my knees were really bad....lots of icing & stretching & ibuprofen really helped, but I had to be consistent with it.  That made the difference for me.  Plus I kept going, although I had to do it at a very slow pace...like, 2.5 mph on the treadmill.  Once you get rid of the crud maybe you could try again and just be very gentle with yourself.  :hug:

So, I paid for yesterday's horrible eating with the scale and a lot of bloating.  Doing OK today though and about to go run. 

RA - just think how far you've come!  Even if you don't quite hit your pre-vacation goal you have done a fantastic job.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 14, 2012, 04:55:15 PM
Have not heard back from dr yet :( was hoping to do bloodwork tomorrow morning, oh well. I am so tired of feeling so uncomfortable in my body.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 14, 2012, 05:20:39 PM
Dr's nurse just called, faxing it to work now but i am home :(

eta-- trying to reach DH before he leaves work, as he drives RIGHT PAST my office. no luck :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 14, 2012, 10:30:05 PM
Went for a 3-mile walk with a friend today, and then had both lunch and dinner out.  :nono: Am having lunch with my mom tomorrow. I sent her a list of possible restaurants near the conference she's going to be attending. She picked the local burger joint. She knows I'm trying to avoid junk food. Thanks, Mom.

In a million years, I would NEVER have guessed she'd go for that option. I sent it as a joke - something like, "Or we could go here, but you'll spend the rest of the conference asleep after eating all that!"

Gaaaaaaaaaah.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 15, 2012, 08:09:08 AM
can you ask her to pick a different restaurant?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 15, 2012, 08:41:30 AM
I wonder if Mom thought she was picking something you'd like?  How odd. 

I'm feeling much better today, and 4 of the 6 binge pounds have gone, despite being a total slug yesterday. 

Bolluxd, I just don't have the determination to ice/ibuprophen for three days after a slow short trot.  There are so many fun exercises I can do - hiking, biking, zumba - that don't cause pain at all.  I'm not willing to put up with joint pain in order to run.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 15, 2012, 09:59:39 AM
I'm still following along... just eating too much.   :-[
Me too.. I don't post as much when I am not doiing well.. I'm not doing horribly, but not doing great either..

I need to get some kind of incentive to get back on track!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 15, 2012, 10:16:25 AM
Eh, I'm not going to worry about it, I just think it's bizarre that she chose that place. I mean, it's delicious, and it's one of two places in town I'll actually go for a burger, so I can't say that I blame her, but she's usually the one lecturing me about my weight, or making passive-aggressive comments about it. Shit, it was probably a test to see how committed I truly am to losing weight. OH WELL. I'm not turning down Mighty Fine burgers. They're hormone- and antibiotic-free, the meat is ground on site, and they're the best burgers in town, by far.

I've gotten more exercise this week and have eaten better this week than I have in months, probably. I'll just make sure I get a junior burger and I'll enjoy the hell out of every bite. I went for a run this morning and have the gym tonight. If the scale doesn't go down this week, okay.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 15, 2012, 11:36:50 AM
Hi all
Down 2 this week after being up .4 last week ( I had a run in with a container of spicy peanut butter) which makes total 22.4 for an average of .7 a week.
I am hoping with the weather getting nicer and me getting back to road biking that I will start seeing a down trend more consistently. That and being on the winning side of fighting my bad habits.  :D

Hoping Meri gets some answers! And that whatever creeping crud you got Mini is short lived. And if running hurts that much then don't do it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on March 15, 2012, 12:03:52 PM
There is spicy peanut butter?  Why do I not have this?  :D

My mom is off the ventilator and improving and I am eating a salad after 5 no vegetable days  :-[ :sleep:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 15, 2012, 12:11:51 PM
I cheated and hopped on my home scale yesterday after my run. It looks like I am down so hopefully the trend continues. I hope to be down at least 20 before the wedding.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 15, 2012, 12:27:09 PM
There is spicy peanut butter?  Why do I not have this?  :D

My mom is off the ventilator and improving and I am eating a salad after 5 no vegetable days  :-[ :sleep:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41TSPWBVyiL._SL500_AA300_PIbundle-6,TopRight,0,0_AA300_SH20_.jpg)

Good news on your Mom!

When is your wedding MM?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 15, 2012, 12:51:57 PM
My bit of schadenfrued: hcg lady is having a meltdown about the fact that we had lunch brought in last week and then we brought in pastries this week and she can't eat any of it. She claims it's terribly unfair that we didn't plan around her diet (really?!). She's like- you can eat that stuff, why don't you have some? A little bite isn't going to derail your diet. (again, really?!?)

So, I had the pleasure of telling her that while I *could* have a bit of one if I wanted to, as my 100 calorie treat, that my tastes have totally changed. If I were fighting a craving, I'd give in. But, I'm just not. I don't even want one.

*smug*

Which brings me to my next point. I'm having a lot of anxiety about this whole thing lately. I'm anxious about going on vacation at the end of next week. What if I can't let the diet mentality go while on vacation? What if I go overboard and gain back all of the weight in a week?

I"m also anxious about the future...and how maintenance will go (if I ever get there). Will I be able to find a middle ground (not something I've been great at in the past).

Work is verrrrry stressful right now. I'm also stressed about the trip- stressed about leaving my family, stressed about who I'm going with... kind of regretting comitting to it at all. *sigh* So, I have a feeling this is just my mind in stress mode and latching on to anything possible.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 15, 2012, 01:19:01 PM
hang in there RA! I think just go into vacation with a plan. Where are you going? access to lots of fresh fruit, salads, etc? Stress is really hard. Really hard. trust me, i know!!!

I hope to get answers soon too. I discussed with DH that if none of the tests come back with anything, then I will look into getting the Mirena removed. he told me to get my tubes tied and i told him to get snipped, he was like, no way! LOL.

I only walked today because if i get the blood test tomorrow, i am not really supposed to work out the day before.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 15, 2012, 01:42:31 PM

When is your wedding MM?

August 4th
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 15, 2012, 02:32:55 PM
There is spicy peanut butter?  Why do I not have this?  :D

My mom is off the ventilator and improving and I am eating a salad after 5 no vegetable days  :-[ :sleep:

Good news about Mom!  :) 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 15, 2012, 03:02:52 PM
RA I love that HCG girl is having a meltdown. I am tempted to go visit the girl in my office who is on it and see how she is doing.

MM you have 5 months, you so can do this! A pound a week is healthy and if you lose more great, or a little less one week as long as you average it out.
At your age it should be a snap, not like me in my dottering menopausal-ness  :'(
Don't overthink it though, live the plan.
It's not what you do occasionally, it's what you do consistently that makes a difference.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 15, 2012, 03:30:10 PM
RA, don't stress too much about diet on vacation.  I usually assume I'll be a bit heavier when I come back. Make the best choices you can, enjoy yourself, and burn plenty of calories having fun. 

MM a pound a week is totally doable! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 15, 2012, 04:19:31 PM
Holy moly my trainer just kicked my ass!!  Woooo! 

I seriously love working out with him.  There are 4 of us who do 2 group sessions each week, and it rocks.  This is the most consistent I've ever been with strength training.  And it's FREE!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 15, 2012, 04:27:03 PM
Holy moly my trainer just kicked my ass!!  Woooo! 

I seriously love working out with him.  There are 4 of us who do 2 group sessions each week, and it rocks.  This is the most consistent I've ever been with strength training.  And it's FREE!!!!

What? How'd you work that deal?

A co-w told me she got insurance to cover it by getting a note from her dr. I'm wondering if that might work for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 15, 2012, 05:07:25 PM
I loved working with a trainer but sure as hell can't afford one now. I think I did 10 sessions plus he gave me a free one once a week too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 15, 2012, 05:29:25 PM
I do love getting my butt kicked at the gym, even though I gripe about it while I'm there. It's nice to know I can do it.

I had the junior burger and an order of fries at lunch with my mom. I was totally bummed about not having a soda with my burger, because, really, a burger, soda, and fries is pretty much the perfect meal for me (unless the place has hard cider, which this place doesn't), and then I looked at that half of the menu I never acknowledge, because that's where they list the milkshakes, and I realized - THEY HAVE LEMONADE!!!!

So I got a lemonade instead, and it was freakin' awesome. Like, totally, utterly, completely delicious - it was PERFECT with the food.

RA, I've wondered how I'll handle things like vacation and maintenance. The second is way, way, WAY down the road for me, but vacation is coming up at the end of July, and even sooner, my in-laws are coming at the end of March, and we either eat out every single night they're here, or we bring in takeaway. Neither one is a terribly good option for someone trying to lose weight. I've decided to combat it as best as possible by getting as much exercise as I can while they're here and choosing as best as I can off the menus. *shrug* There's not much else I can do.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 15, 2012, 05:43:44 PM
The vacation thing is more about... I'm not planning to stick to my diet, particularly. I'm not planning to go nuts... but not really planning to watch it. I've been a very good girl for 12 weeks, and would like to take a break. I don't want to stress about going off plan, you know? I just feel like I'll stress about it either way. Booo. But, then, hopefully I can be a little less obsessive about it because I won't be under a deadline.

BUT this is a dangerous time of year for me. I have my vacation, get home at 1pm sat night, then fly out for a business meeting on tuesday morning. I will be travelling through friday. Then home for a couple of weeks, then to NY for another biz trip. Traveling is at least 50% of the reason I'm a chub.

So, in other news- karma turned around and bit me. Out to lunch with cw's today (have someone visiting) and had tomato soup and a greek salad. No bread, or anything like that. Get back from lunch and suddenly I DO want a croissant. So, I give into the craving and have half of one (they are quite large). I now feel like total crap. I wish I could un-eat it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on March 15, 2012, 06:43:59 PM
Upside: my upcoming doctors appointment will put me at the lowest weight in 4 years.  Not really, but as far as my doctor knows.

Downside: final dress fitting on the 28th.  Then I have to maintain for a month.  Yikes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 16, 2012, 08:47:31 AM
Jamers, count on the maintaining to be a challenge.  Either you'll be caught up in pre-wedding fetivities and eat more than usual or stressed out and eat less.  Try to keep a balance, starting now.

RA - I would have totally scarfed the whole croisant, no matter how big it was.


Down to my pre-binge weight.  :D  Here's hoping  :fingers: I can stay on track through the weekend so I don't have to spend next week undoing the damage and can actually see some progress. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 16, 2012, 08:54:28 AM
At lab, starving and there are a billion people ahead of me, hopjng they can see me before i have to leave for work.  :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 16, 2012, 09:04:49 AM
Ok i am about to cry, i do not think i am going to get seen before i have to leave for work, i thought 30-40 mins would be enough  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on March 16, 2012, 09:13:56 AM
Meri, that sucks.

Maintaining is going to be a HUGE challenge.  It'll be good for me to learn, and I learn best under pressure.  But I've never intentionally not lost weight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on March 16, 2012, 09:26:00 AM
Meri, that sucks.

Maintaining is going to be a HUGE challenge.  It'll be good for me to learn, and I learn best under pressure.  But I've never intentionally not lost weight.

I think most places can do last minute alterations ... brides losing or gaining in the weeks leading up to weddings is very normal!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 16, 2012, 09:40:28 AM
Up 4 today. Birthday dinner with friends at a dumpling house. Toooooootaly over did it. I know it'll be gone im a few days. Just means probably no new loss before my trip. Oh well. Tired today. DD woke me up at 1am because she needed Imodium and couldn't find it. Yawn.

Mouse- your trip is this week? Have some friends in Maui right now and the weather looks perfect!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 16, 2012, 09:53:37 AM
I think most places can do last minute alterations ... brides losing or gaining in the weeks leading up to weddings is very normal!

My last fitting was 11 days before my wedding. Needed some very minor alterations at that point. You'll be fine, Jamers.  :hug:

Going shopping today!
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Post by: Miss on March 16, 2012, 09:54:14 AM
week 2 on WW and I'm definitely not regretting joining.  It has made me much more aware of all the damn carbs I have been consuming.  Lots of free points left this week so I can enjoy my weekend! 
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Post by: merigayle on March 16, 2012, 10:26:29 AM
Up 4 today. Birthday dinner with friends at a dumpling house. Toooooootaly over did it. I know it'll be gone im a few days. Just means probably no new loss before my trip. Oh well. Tired today. DD woke me up at 1am because she needed Imodium and couldn't find it. Yawn.

Mouse- your trip is this week? Have some friends in Maui right now and the weather looks perfect!
dumpling house = lots of sodium = lots of water retention!

I did not get the blood test and cried all the way to work. lovely, huh? i made an appt for Tuesday morning because sunday i do my long run. I really just want the results. i am just so annoyed. the people at the lab were so inefficient. in the almost hour i was there, i think they saw 3 people. wtf????
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 16, 2012, 10:38:23 AM
I went out to yummy thai yesterday and had vegetable noodle soup (which was yummy but sure as hell wasn't curry). I then had frozen mac and cheese and asparagus for dinner. Not the best day but not the worst and I did run on the TM for an hour.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 16, 2012, 10:42:06 AM
awww {{{{{meri}}} that sucks ass. Can you ask to go to a different blood lab?

I have to say this, and y'all can hate on me but I find it really annoying when people post their daily weight fluctuations.
Going to say this again.
It's not what you do occasionally, it's what you do consistently that makes a difference.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on March 16, 2012, 11:13:38 AM
Meri  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 16, 2012, 11:21:49 AM
i am going to a different lab on Tuesday morning. sigh. just gonna drag this all out a little longer. i may schedule my appt with my MW since i am due for a pap anyways and see if i chose to if they can remove the mirena then, since it takes all of 1 minute to do. I am undecided, but if these tests come back ok, that is the next step.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 16, 2012, 12:25:13 PM
awww {{{{{meri}}} that sucks ass. Can you ask to go to a different blood lab?

I have to say this, and y'all can hate on me but I find it really annoying when people post their daily weight fluctuations.
Going to say this again.
It's not what you do occasionally, it's what you do consistently that makes a difference.


I agree on the consistency thing.

Sorry if it irritates you, but my weight fluctuations matter to me.  And it helps to have a place to vent about them.  Because when I overeat I need the immediate slap in the face from the scale saying "no you don't missy!"  And I need the accountability.

Meri, I would have cut someone if I was kept waiting when fasting.  I am not to be trifled with when hungry.  Heck, I'm not to be trifled with when I'm full. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 16, 2012, 12:37:04 PM
Yeah, I weigh daily so that I can keep an eye on things. If I don't do that, I'm 3 binges later when I get to my official weigh-in and then it's too late to stop the damage for that week. It also gives me some insight into what I might be sensitive to - like sodium. If I eat something normal for me, but the next morning I'm up a couple of pounds when I shouldn't be, it's a sign that there was something unusual in that meal (usually dinner) and I need to go back and take a closer look at what I ate. It's almost inevitably something sodium-related, so I up the water even more, which usually helps.

Yes, it sucks to get on the scale the morning after a hard workout and see that I've "gained" 3 pounds or something insane. But it also reminds me to drink the DFW like I'll never be able to drink it again.

The weekly numbers are the only ones I track, but the daily numbers give me a sense of how I'm doing and what needs to be tweaked.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 16, 2012, 12:44:07 PM
I weigh daily too but only as an indicator for myself.
I have no problem with any of you venting, I was just making a statement :)

Generally meals eaten out contain massive amounts of sodium that you can't account for like you can if you cook at home using fresh or low sodium ingredients.

I have been known to throw hissy fits in Dr's offices that keep me waiting, or blood labs. Did you go in at least and ask them to take you next because you are fasting? I would have told them my blood sugar was low and I was going to faint in the office right then and there if they didn't take me NOW!!!
I was once kept waiting with a full bladder for a sonogram. Asshats! Needless to say I refused to ever go back to that lab again.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 16, 2012, 12:50:01 PM
Oh yeah! I way for informational purposes only and look more for trends than any given spike. I like to weigh every day because I like to have the information. But, I don't actually think I gained 4lbs of fat from last night to this morning! I know it is a side effect from all the sodium and all the white rice. Oh, and the boba tea. Let's not forget the half a croissant after lunch. I know that a one day spike isn't going to derail me and it could even be beneficial. Usually, after a day like y'day I don't weigh for a day or two. I was interested to see just how much "damage" I did. I am paying for it today. Ugh. My tummy and my head! I almost feel hungover. bleah.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 16, 2012, 12:58:30 PM
I agree on the consistency thing.

Sorry if it irritates you, but my weight fluctuations matter to me.  And it helps to have a place to vent about them.  Because when I overeat I need the immediate slap in the face from the scale saying "no you don't missy!"  And I need the accountability.

Meri, I would have cut someone if I was kept waiting when fasting.  I am not to be trifled with when hungry.  Heck, I'm not to be trifled with when I'm full.
and that is why i was balling my eyes out the whole ride to work  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 16, 2012, 05:07:18 PM
I have a car trip coming up tomorrow, and I tend to snack when driving to keep myself awake.   :pissed:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 16, 2012, 05:10:51 PM
I have a car trip coming up tomorrow, and I tend to snack when driving to keep myself awake.   :pissed:

So... snack on cucumber slices. Ok, I know, not very exciting.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 16, 2012, 05:16:26 PM
So... snack on cucumber slices. Ok, I know, not very exciting.

And kind of messy/wet while driving :D  Maybe grapes?  I bought a bunch yesterday. 

I should pack SOMETHING like that, tho.  I tend towards sunflower seeds, since you kind of have to DO something while eating them, but they are not the best choice. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 16, 2012, 05:17:14 PM
for some reason, long car rides make me feel like i am running a marathon, or two. i feel the need to eat, a lot! LOL.

i eat grapes in the car all the time! and apples. though not as safe to eat apples :o
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Miss on March 16, 2012, 08:36:12 PM
Have not heard back from dr yet :( was hoping to do bloodwork tomorrow morning, oh well. I am so tired of feeling so uncomfortable in my body.

Meri, what is going on?  Why do you need bloodwork (sorry I must have missed the post).  I saw that you are having some BC problems.  While I was having surgery 2 weeks ago, I told them to do a tubal ligation since my DH chickened out of a vasectomy too.  I'm still recovering from it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 16, 2012, 08:51:29 PM
Pizza for dinner tonight - I had to go pick up Scout from her teeth cleaning, and DH spent all day pulling weeds in the front and back yards. I managed to limit myself to 2 slices, though. In the past, I'd probably have eaten half the pizza (and we'd have gotten a large). I'll have a cider later. Mmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 16, 2012, 09:48:06 PM
Meri - sorry you've had a rough day and didn't get the blood work done.   :hug:  I'd have cried over it too out of such frustration.  Getting the mirena out is such a simple procedure, I almost wish I'd taken mine out myself to save the money!  Expect several weeks to a few months of crazy hormones though.  :skeered:

I've been busy cleaning today and missed out on my run due to a short nap by the kids.  At least I managed to eat pretty good today...if I forget about the rice krispie treats and red velvet cake.   :-[

This weekend is going to be a busy one with visitors both days but I know it'll be fun.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 17, 2012, 11:25:11 AM
Down 2 this morning for my official weigh-in - woot! Oatmeal for breakfast. We're going to a birthday party for a 3 year old this afternoon, so God only knows what I'll end up eating there. Dinner is also up in the air right now.

But for right now - Down 2!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 17, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
Down 2 after pizza and cider for dinner?  Woo Hoo!  That is too awesome.  YAY DEBBA!

Got out for my first long bike ride of the season today.  YAY!  28 miles at an 11-minute mile pace.  My feet got cold, but the rest of me was fairly warm and comfy.  My thighs were like WTF in the last 45 minutes, but they're fine now. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 17, 2012, 12:29:52 PM
Meri, what is going on?  Why do you need bloodwork (sorry I must have missed the post).  I saw that you are having some BC problems.  While I was having surgery 2 weeks ago, I told them to do a tubal ligation since my DH chickened out of a vasectomy too.  I'm still recovering from it.
i've been counting calories and exercising regularly for almost three months with almost zero weight gain, a nutritionist/RD friend suggested a list of tests to do including thyroid and insulin resistance, she thinks i may have some insulin resistance which can cause weight gain and lack of weight loss. If all those tests (14 of them) come back ok, the next step is to have the Mirena out. I have used the Mirena for 10 years (except when pregnant) and did not have problems, but maybe post baby i am now having problems because of it? googling Mirena + weight gain came up with a TON of hits and information that was not pleasant to read. I would not get a tubal, i would possibly consider the Paraguard IUD, but after Badwater. I got pregnant the cycle after getting the Mirena out, so hoping my hormones won't be too screwed up.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 17, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
Thanks, Mini - GREAT job on the ride!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 17, 2012, 01:43:06 PM
i would have a HARD time stopping at two pieces of pizza, unless there were only two there :D (ie, not a whole pie)

perfect bike weather, mini.

out to dinner tonight with relatives in town, a chinese style place, will probably just get steamed veggies over brown rice  :-\ that alone will make me bloat up! LOL

oh i never ate a turnip (rutabaga yes, turnip no) until last night and made mashed turnip and sweet potato, it was really tasty!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 17, 2012, 03:11:01 PM
LOL, I normally have a hard time stopping at 2 pieces of pizza, unless the pie is only cut into quarters! The thing is, and what I MUST remember next time, is that I was perfectly content last night after only 2 pieces.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 17, 2012, 04:28:52 PM
LOL, I normally have a hard time stopping at 2 pieces of pizza, unless the pie is only cut into quarters! The thing is, and what I MUST remember next time, is that I was perfectly content last night after only 2 pieces.
good to know!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 17, 2012, 06:39:51 PM
Let's say that coming accross a tub of ganache in the feezer when you have low blood sugar is a recipe for a disaster.  :fiery: Hey, at least it was worth it. Ish. Moving on...

LOL, I normally have a hard time stopping at 2 pieces of pizza, unless the pie is only cut into quarters! The thing is, and what I MUST remember next time, is that I was perfectly content last night after only 2 pieces.

This has been a key concept for me with the I-diet... and one I still struggle a bit to master. I suffer immensely from "eyes bigger than my stomach" syndrome. When I stop at reasonable, I'm fine and happy. But, stopping at reasonable (and starting at reasonable) are tough for me. My brain is ALWAYS saying yes, you do need that extra slice of cheese, and that extra egg, and another... just a little more... and so on.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 17, 2012, 09:37:29 PM
Yep, realizing that I'm perfectly happy after one real serving (not what I think a serving *should* be, and they are vastly different) has been HUGE. The other big change has been realizing that "moderation" doesn't mean I get to have something "bad" for me every day. It means I get to have it once a week, if small, or maybe once a month, if a big treat.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 17, 2012, 10:39:08 PM
I think moderation gets too much focus because. I think I tend to use it to give myself permission. I prefer to think of them as special, exception, treats.

But, also, something I've learned on the idiet is that I can actually be satisfied on less than 1 serving. Like, I will eat 1 slice of toast with 1tsp each of pb and jam. I have learned to trust her portion sizes as "enough". Although, I struggle to find my own portions and recipes "off diet" that give me the same sense of satiety her food does.

Tonight I made a pizza with a la tortilla factory 100 calorie wrap (has 12g of fiber and 8 g of protien). I baked it in the oven and then topped it with some tj's pizza sauce, 1/2 cup of mozz (ff is what I had), some artichoke hearts, a few olives, a few sunflower seeds, a few sundried tomatoes, lots of spinach, green peppers and onions. I also had a salad on the side. The wrap, cheese and sauce were an even 300 calories- so I am estimating it was 4-500 calories. More than I'd typically do for dinner but for something a little splurgy, without going overboard, let me tell you this hit the spot! I actually would have been ok with 1/2 or 3/4- I'm  a bit overstuffed. I will make this again!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 18, 2012, 10:40:54 AM
Morning ladies!

I am really missing my running again lately.  The chances have been very few the last couple days, and probably won't happen today either.  I'm definitely getting back to it tomorrow though.

DH made a comment the other day that I don't know if I should be mad about or not.  He said he thought I could do with some bulking up.  Either muscle or a little more weight....and I've honestly not lost anymore since the WLC.  I'm at a comfortable for me weight, and would love more muscle tone but it seems to be harder for me to maintain a strength training routine.  It was the first time he's mentioned it, so I'm ignoring it a bit for now.  If he says something again I guess I'll look into it a bit more.   :-\

It's just all that work I did to lose the weight and now he may think it's too much weight loss.  :incazzato:



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 18, 2012, 01:18:29 PM
8 mile hike this morning, now what to do with the rest of the day?  Probably slouch around the house in shorts and flip flops, given the temperature.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 18, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Weigh in day. Down 0.6...I am pretty frustrated by that because I have been on plan the entire week and have run an acceptable number of times. I hate how hard my body tries to hold onto excess weight.

But now that my pity party is over I will move on. I am making veggie pad thai tonight (first time I have ever attempted it). Last night I made meatloaf (with a mizture of lean ground turkey and lean ground beef) which was yummy and ok on points. We will be able to eat on the leftovers this week.
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Post by: Ice Cream on March 18, 2012, 04:10:10 PM


DH made a comment the other day that I don't know if I should be mad about or not.  He said he thought I could do with some bulking up.  Either muscle or a little more weight....and I've honestly not lost anymore since the WLC.  I'm at a comfortable for me weight, and would love more muscle tone but it seems to be harder for me to maintain a strength training routine.  It was the first time he's mentioned it, so I'm ignoring it a bit for now.  If he says something again I guess I'll look into it a bit more.   :-\

It's just all that work I did to lose the weight and now he may think it's too much weight loss.  :incazzato:





As long as you feel good, ignore him.  I know, easier said than done.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 18, 2012, 04:52:00 PM
Morning ladies!

I am really missing my running again lately.  The chances have been very few the last couple days, and probably won't happen today either.  I'm definitely getting back to it tomorrow though.

DH made a comment the other day that I don't know if I should be mad about or not.  He said he thought I could do with some bulking up.  Either muscle or a little more weight....and I've honestly not lost anymore since the WLC.  I'm at a comfortable for me weight, and would love more muscle tone but it seems to be harder for me to maintain a strength training routine.  It was the first time he's mentioned it, so I'm ignoring it a bit for now.  If he says something again I guess I'll look into it a bit more.   :-\

It's just all that work I did to lose the weight and now he may think it's too much weight loss.  :incazzato:





It seems as if men in general prefer women a little larger than the women would prefer themselves. But in my mind how you feel about yourself is the most important.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 18, 2012, 06:16:48 PM
Ooooh, if DH said that to me... uh, well, he wouldn't, because I have a long way to go, but yeah, I'd be upset, too.

MM, don't worry too much. I seem to remember it being "normal" to have a good weight loss the first week and then kind of hold steady while your body figures out what's going on. Stick with it and you'll be fine. I sympathize with the frustration, though, especially after you've worked so hard to stick with the plan during the whole week.

Had blueberry muffins for breakfast and then met my parents, my nephew, his wife, and their two kids for lunch at a place in between SA and Austin - a place that's semi-famous for its burgers and fries. It's also a place where my dad is notorious for ordering massive amounts of appetizers. DH, Reid and I got there and my mom (who knows damn well I gave up junk food and soda for Lent) says, "Oh GOOD, you're just in time for the onion rings!"  :grr: I don't know where they find these onions, y'all, but they're mutant. Biggest onion rings ever. And delicious.

I skipped them, and had freakin' water and a garden salad with grilled chicken on top. I mean, yay for me for staying with my plan, not eating too much, and not going nuts, but still. Hmph. I'm proud of myself but it doesn't change that I'd really rather have had a burger and fries.

I think moderation gets too much focus because. I think I tend to use it to give myself permission. I prefer to think of them as special, exception, treats.

But, also, something I've learned on the idiet is that I can actually be satisfied on less than 1 serving. Like, I will eat 1 slice of toast with 1tsp each of pb and jam. I have learned to trust her portion sizes as "enough". Although, I struggle to find my own portions and recipes "off diet" that give me the same sense of satiety her food does.

Yeah, I've definitely used moderation to give myself permission - "You were good at breakfast and lunch, you can splurge for dinner!" 5 nights a week is NOT moderation. That's what I've had to learn.

And I meant portion size, dammit. Sorry, I tend to use it interchangeably with "serving size." One thing I love about Cooking Light is that it tells you precisely how much a serving is of each recipe. And I've found that I'm okay with that. That's been huge.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 18, 2012, 07:06:04 PM
good job Debba!

and MM, yes, just like on Biggest Loser, the second week sucks.

my day has been ok, i let myself not be crazy strict like i usually am on my long run days. DH bought an amazing loaf of bread from the bakery, i only ate a teeny bit, oh man, it was good.

I also like fat free vegan because her portions are really generous.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: leggova on March 18, 2012, 10:13:57 PM
Hello folks.

I have been lurking in here listening to you for a long time. Not sure why I haven't posted as I am trying to lose the last 10lbs.

The thing that i have been struggling with is going out with someone who is 6'2 and can eat far more than me. Yet i find myself wanting to eat what he eats and I know I need to eat a lot less. We have talked about this and I have asked him not to encourage me to finish stuff off, eat half of the rest etc and he is very supportive, but we eat out a lot as he lives in a very small apartment that doesn't really have much of a kitchen but it in the centre of Hong Kong so we stay there a lot rather than my place on one of the outlying islands.

I just need to be better at stopping myself when I am full, I find it very hard though. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 19, 2012, 04:33:33 AM
Weigh in day. Down 0.6...I am pretty frustrated by that because I have been on plan the entire week and have run an acceptable number of times. I hate how hard my body tries to hold onto excess weight.

But now that my pity party is over I will move on. I am making veggie pad thai tonight (first time I have ever attempted it). Last night I made meatloaf (with a mizture of lean ground turkey and lean ground beef) which was yummy and ok on points. We will be able to eat on the leftovers this week.

MM, I know the frustration.  But any loss is good and just stick with it. Get the negative thoughts out of your mind! Big picture. You are making changes and that is what is important.
Also.....do the math. You are a scientist. 3500 calories to a pound. You need a deficit of 3500 calories to lose a pound The big losses are toxins and garbage leaving the body, not really fat.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 19, 2012, 06:58:20 AM
Good morning.  I'm jumping back in with you today.  I've been able to maintain my weight since WLC but I need to lose more.

MM, the same thing happened to me when I did WW and then after that rough week the weight seemed to steadily come off slowly.  Good luck this week!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 19, 2012, 09:43:12 AM
Scale up a bit this morning - since there is no possible way I ate enough to gain 2 pounds overnight, I'm going to blame hormones, as it's about time for my period. Hmph. Also, back to work today after Spring Break.  :sleep: :luvcoffee: Need to get into the 5 AM workout groove now. It's supposed to rain all day today, tonight, and into tomorrow. Oof.

In-laws come in on Saturday and me, DH, my mom, my cousin, and her husband are all doing a 10K on Sunday morning. HAHAHAHAHAHA. That'll be interesting.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 19, 2012, 09:44:42 AM
Hello folks.

I have been lurking in here listening to you for a long time. Not sure why I haven't posted as I am trying to lose the last 10lbs.

The thing that i have been struggling with is going out with someone who is 6'2 and can eat far more than me. Yet i find myself wanting to eat what he eats and I know I need to eat a lot less. We have talked about this and I have asked him not to encourage me to finish stuff off, eat half of the rest etc and he is very supportive, but we eat out a lot as he lives in a very small apartment that doesn't really have much of a kitchen but it in the centre of Hong Kong so we stay there a lot rather than my place on one of the outlying islands.

I just need to be better at stopping myself when I am full, I find it very hard though. 

Welcome Leggova and Diablita!

Yeah, I can't eat what my husband eats, not nearly.  And it's a PITA when he spends the afternoon noshing on Lindt Truffles and I don't even have one.   :(  I get more exercise than he does, but can't eat the same. 

20 days into a 90-day plan, I'm finally back down to my starting weight with 25 pounds to lose.  It's a little discouraging, but hopefully the scale will move in the right direction this week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 19, 2012, 09:58:38 AM
Hell, my husband shouldn't eat what he eats (or as much of it, I guess), so I just try to remind myself I'm setting an example, grit my teeth, and say "I'm done!" when he asks if I want seconds. And you know what? In the end, I'm really just fine not eating seconds.

And yes, welcome Leggova and Diablita!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 19, 2012, 10:04:20 AM
I got out on the road bike both weekend days, 25.5 Saturday and 35.5 yesterday. Yesterday we did some climbs. I don't know if I am in better shape or John is in worse shape but i was far ahead on both large hills. I am hoping the 23 less pounds and the steady running this winter contributed. John is down 15 but he hasn't really been working out on a steady basis. Also walked for about 1.5 hours looking for caches yesterday. What a spectacular weekend!

Funny story and a WWYD. I saw what I thought was a case of empty beer cans, actually there were a few cans on the ground and a case leaning on a tree.
There are lots of garbage cans in this little preserve so I figured I'd carry the trash to one. I get there and the cans are full! And they feel cold. What the hell, I am thirsty so I drank half of one :) It was crappy beer or I'd have sat and had a few/
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 19, 2012, 11:12:47 AM
Hello folks.

I have been lurking in here listening to you for a long time. Not sure why I haven't posted as I am trying to lose the last 10lbs.

The thing that i have been struggling with is going out with someone who is 6'2 and can eat far more than me. Yet i find myself wanting to eat what he eats and I know I need to eat a lot less. We have talked about this and I have asked him not to encourage me to finish stuff off, eat half of the rest etc and he is very supportive

I just need to be better at stopping myself when I am full, I find it very hard though. 
Hi Leggova and Diablita!

Leggova, my DH is 6'3, and I am 5'3. He loves to cook and always makes enough for a family of four. And I can put the food away if given the opportunity. When I remind him that portion control is a challenge he tones the size of meals down, bur eventually it creeps back up. Pair that with his being a fantastic cook....uh oh.

I went to step class yesterday, and spent the rest of the day cleaning house for Sunday dinner with   our friends. It was our (by that I mean DH) turn to cook. We had mushroom risotto, frilled salmon and salad. I love risotto and ate more than I should have but man was it good.

We leave for Maui tomorrow morning! I am very excited, and it looks like the weather will hold.  :fingers: I am still holding steady at my weight, actually down a pound so I feel good about that.



Hally! That is awesome. I probably would have had one, too.


So....I have anxiety about leaving the dogs. My dear friends (the Sunday dinner friends) are staying up here and are taking care of the dogs. I know they will love the boys up, and everything will be fine. Hank and Dewey love these people and these people love them. BUT....I have issues with loss and control...that I am sure stem from the untimely and completely devastating loss of my first DH 10 years ago. I love my dogs like they are my children (as you all know) and I worry.  That is all.  I KNOW they will be fine.
I just had to say it "outoud".  (actually leaving them is a huge step for me!!)
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Post by: Run Amok on March 19, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
So....I have anxiety about leaving the dogs. My dear friends (the Sunday dinner friends) are staying up here and are taking care of the dogs. I know they will love the boys up, and everything will be fine. Hank and Dewey love these people and these people love them. BUT....I have issues with loss and control...that I am sure stem from the untimely and completely devastating loss of my first DH 10 years ago. I love my dogs like they are my children (as you all know) and I worry.  That is all.  I KNOW they will be fine.
I just had to say it "outoud".  (actually leaving them is a huge step for me!!)


 :hug:

 I have the same problem and no excuse for it.

Enjoy your trip!
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Post by: debbatx on March 19, 2012, 11:32:58 AM
Have a great trip, Mouse! I have anxiety about leaving Scout, too, even though she stays at my parents' with their giant backyard, and is happy as a clam while she's there. It's just tough, and in your shoes, I'm sure it would even harder to do.  :hug:
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Post by: Miss on March 19, 2012, 11:34:33 AM
Well, all my hard work this past winter has paid off.  I am wearing a pair of pants from last Spring that were too tight on me and I even ate cake yesterday.  I LOVE WEIGHTWATCHERS!  I'm not tracking every single day, but I really don't feel it necessary.  The point system has been easy to maneuver.

 :)

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 19, 2012, 11:38:02 AM
Note to all: don't always trust the WW cookbooks. I made the pad thai from mine and it was terrible...absolutely terrible. I think the person who wrote it had neve had pad thai.
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Post by: Ice Cream on March 19, 2012, 11:41:58 AM
Note to all: don't always trust the WW cookbooks. I made the pad thai from mine and it was terrible...absolutely terrible. I think the person who wrote it had neve had pad thai.

I have never been able to duplicate pad Thai at home, and I have tried several recipes. 
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Post by: debbatx on March 19, 2012, 12:10:38 PM
Yeah, I'm not a fan of most WW recipes - they're all a little bland to me. I've had much better luck with Cooking Light. They give you all the info you need to plug into WW and get the points.
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Post by: merigayle on March 19, 2012, 01:07:00 PM
ooooh i made a good pad thai recipe! you can use it as a starting point http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=14784.0 (http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=14784.0)

my DH can eat a whole cheesecake, like a COSTCO one and not gain a lb. I look at it and i gain five. I do not even really care for cheesecake, yeah it is yummy, but birthday cake is where it is at :D
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Post by: Run Amok on March 19, 2012, 01:08:54 PM
Meri- did we get an update on your bloodwork?
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Post by: onawhim on March 19, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
My SO is 6'3" and I am 5'2" so I know the difficulty.  I am good at not buying bad food but bad resisting it when it is there  :grr:
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Post by: debbatx on March 19, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
Yeah, DH and I used to pack the food down. I finally realized that one serving was a reasonable WW points number, but eating half of a recipe for 4? Notsomuch. Now that Reid is really starting to eat "big people" food, I give myself a serving, he gets about half a serving or less (depending on what it is), and it's up to DH to figure out how much he's going to eat. He's a grown-up. I can't control what he eats, or how much of it he eats.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 19, 2012, 01:40:47 PM
ooooh i made a good pad thai recipe! you can use it as a starting point http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=14784.0 (http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=14784.0)

my DH can eat a whole cheesecake, like a COSTCO one and not gain a lb. I look at it and i gain five. I do not even really care for cheesecake, yeah it is yummy, but birthday cake is where it is at :D

Interestingly that is pretty close to the one I used. Mine had vinegar (I used cider vinegar), sugar, fish sauce, and chili paste in it. It just tasted nothing like the pad thai I can get at a restaraunt.
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Post by: onawhim on March 19, 2012, 02:37:43 PM
Interestingly that is pretty close to the one I used. Mine had vinegar (I used cider vinegar), sugar, fish sauce, and chili paste in it. It just tasted nothing like the pad thai I can get at a restaraunt.

needs tamarind
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Post by: merigayle on March 19, 2012, 02:37:52 PM
Interestingly that is pretty close to the one I used. Mine had vinegar (I used cider vinegar), sugar, fish sauce, and chili paste in it. It just tasted nothing like the pad thai I can get at a restaraunt.
i would use rice vinegar.

Meri- did we get an update on your bloodwork?

yep, i sat in the lab for an hour and had to leave, i have an appt tomorrow to go. i almost passed out from the fasting and cried the whole way to work on Friday :(
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 19, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
i would use rice vinegar.


I used some but I ran out.  :(
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 19, 2012, 02:40:40 PM
needs tamarind

That is what I saw in most of the recipes but it is not something I have.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 19, 2012, 03:56:00 PM
That is what I saw in most of the recipes but it is not something I have.

It's the key flavor that you are missing. You can usually find it at health food stores or a specialty asian store. You might even be able to find it in the asian section of your regular grocery- my safeway sells it.
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Post by: hally on March 19, 2012, 05:38:32 PM
Stuff like that I leave to the people that know how to make it. The Thai restaurant.
I love those spicy noodles but they are freshly made and you can't really store them.
I asked where they got them and they told me they get them every day in Elmhurst (neighborhood in Queens) fresh.
It's cheap enough to order from them.
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Post by: Ice Cream on March 19, 2012, 07:12:45 PM
needs tamarind

yes, the key ingredient.  I had to drive 60 miles to find some.  Here is rural no man's land, forget it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 19, 2012, 08:32:07 PM
Asian-marinated flank steak tonight for dinner, with basmati rice and some veggie stir-fry. Yum! One portion was just fine, even though I probably could have eaten the whole thing.

Oh, and a glass of red wine.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 19, 2012, 08:33:49 PM
today was just ok. DH brought home locally made ice cream and him and DD (who i told him i did not want to eat dairy!!!) ate two bowls each. I had two tastes, and that was it. It was beyond delicious. Tomorrow is the bloodwork, god willingly, and i cannot get the results fast enough. Gotta also make my appt at the midwife for my annual. I just could not bring myself to eat a salad for lunch today.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 19, 2012, 08:38:45 PM
...and I'm sick.

 :grr:

I kind of felt it coming on the last day or so...head cold. I am cramming vitamin c in hopes that it will go away. I am sniffling and coughing. (hopefully it is just a small cold.)
 fuck
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Post by: Run Amok on March 19, 2012, 08:52:23 PM
noooooooooooooooo
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Post by: debbatx on March 19, 2012, 08:53:04 PM
Oh, no! Feel better fast, Mouse - can you get your hands on some Cold-Eeze? I swear that stuff helps.
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Post by: Run Amok on March 19, 2012, 10:00:27 PM
Good god. I am one big fat craving tonight!  :'(
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Post by: debbatx on March 19, 2012, 10:12:35 PM
Awwww.  :hug: I'm all hormonal, but I'm also having allergy issues (eff you, oak trees!), and that's keeping me from being too hungry, I think. But my boss's boss had her tonsils out just before spring break and she was whining today (in a nice way, I like her a lot) about not being able to eat anything because she doesn't like sweet stuff and has a hard time with dairy, so she couldn't have ice cream, and she doesn't like popsicles, because her teeth are cold sensitive... so in the week and a half since her surgery, she's lost 18 pounds.

I was like, I'd GAIN 18 pounds if I had an excuse to eat nothing but ice cream and popsicles, and wait, maybe I need to just get my tonsils out instead of a lap-band or gastric bypass...
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Post by: Run Amok on March 19, 2012, 10:24:13 PM
Has she never head of a smoothie!?
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Post by: Bolloxd on March 19, 2012, 10:35:01 PM
Mouse - I really hope the weather holds out for you and the cold stays at bay!
meri - I hope you have no problems getting the blood work done tomorrow. 

So, I decided I'll definitely be sticking to my current weight and NOT bulking up again.  :eyeroll:  I went clothes shopping today and it was very successful!  I got both kids their entire summer wardrobe - since it has been in the 80s and none of us have summer clothes!  I *may* have gotten 5 pairs of shoes for Rachel...  :-[  I couldn't resist plus they were on sale.  I also got quite a few clothes for me, so I can't gain the weight back!  The best part is they were from a consignment shop or marked down at TJMaxx.   8)

With all the shopping I missed my run again.  Urgh.  Really, honestly, will do it tomorrow... I think.
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Post by: debbatx on March 19, 2012, 10:40:48 PM
Has she never head of a smoothie!?

Hah! Probably not - I am in no way judging her, since I'm in the same boat, but she absolutely has 18 pounds and more to lose. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a smoothie had never even occurred to her. When I'm not focusing on what I'm eating, they don't occur to me, either.
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Post by: seattlegirl on March 19, 2012, 11:56:25 PM
I had a pizza-related victory - we ordered in, and we made a HUGE salad to eat before we had pizza, so the pizza portions were small and not out of control.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 20, 2012, 12:07:18 AM
I made our leftover meatloaf from Saturday into meatloaf casserole. It actually wasn't too bad points wise because I had made healthy meatloaf with tons of veggies in it and lean meat (turkey and beef). It was yummy!It was about 7 points per serving.
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Post by: nadra24 on March 20, 2012, 12:58:59 AM
Has she never head of a smoothie!?

But smoothies are sweet!

My brother broke his jaw in December, and had it wired shut.  He got really, really sick of milkshakes and smoothies and Ensure.  He ate a lot of pureed chicken soup and drank whole milk by the gallon. 

I am most likely getting my tonsils out at the end of April.  I'm only sort of kidding that it's my pre-wedding weight loss plan!  The seamstress that is altering my wedding dress wants me to bring it in at the beginning of May so she can let it out.  I'm worried that I'll lose a ton of weight, get it fitted, and then regain most of it when I start eating again.  This is concerning.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 20, 2012, 01:08:19 AM
But smoothies are sweet!

My brother broke his jaw in December, and had it wired shut.  He got really, really sick of milkshakes and smoothies and Ensure.  He ate a lot of pureed chicken soup and drank whole milk by the gallon. 

I am most likely getting my tonsils out at the end of April.  I'm only sort of kidding that it's my pre-wedding weight loss plan!  The seamstress that is altering my wedding dress wants me to bring it in at the beginning of May so she can let it out.  I'm worried that I'll lose a ton of weight, get it fitted, and then regain most of it when I start eating again.  This is concerning.

When I had my tummy tuck I ate maybe 3 bites per meal for over a week. I didn't lose a friggin ounce.  >:(
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Post by: merigayle on March 20, 2012, 07:31:07 AM
i had my wisdom teeth out while doing WW and did not lose a pound not eating either. i was sick about 6 weeks ago with asuper swollen throat, could not talk, eat, etc, and i lost no weight.  :fiery:  fasting blood test in a little over an hour. i am STARVING! LOL.
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 20, 2012, 08:36:50 AM
Mouse, take some decongestants before getting on the plane.  A long plane ride with a cold is miserable!  But it will be pleasant resting up poolside!   

Meri, best wishes for speedy bloodwork.

RA, did you ride out the cravings?  Was there a reason - stress, hormones? 

I was exhausted last night and skipped my zumba and went to sleep around nine.  But was so busy yesterday I burned as many calories as I would have on a normal day with zumba, so I didn't miss much. 

Holding steady weight-wise.  Am wearing a pretty dress with daisies on it in honor of Spring (with a denim jacket over it because it's New England Spring).  Ariat sandals to complete the look.  I am feeling good!
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Post by: Run Amok on March 20, 2012, 08:47:31 AM
I didn't weigh today. I seem to have lost momentum. That's ok, I leave fri for st John and then all bets are off.

I ended up making myself an idiet dessert- 10 g bittersweet chocolate melted to coat 1/4 cup fiber cereal. I mixed that into .5 cup 2% fage And topped the whole thing with sliced strawberries and light whipped cream. Other than over doing it a bit with the whip- it was not too bad diet wise. Light whipped cream is 15 cals per tbs so I don't worry tooooooo much about it.

Good luck today meri!
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Post by: teetime on March 20, 2012, 09:10:58 AM
today was just ok. DH brought home locally made ice cream and him and DD (who i told him i did not want to eat dairy!!!) ate two bowls each. I had two tastes, and that was it. It was beyond delicious. Tomorrow is the bloodwork, god willingly, and i cannot get the results fast enough. Gotta also make my appt at the midwife for my annual. I just could not bring myself to eat a salad for lunch today.

Meri, what are you having evaluated and what do you think you might see?
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Post by: merigayle on March 20, 2012, 09:23:07 AM
Thanks everyone! 14 blood tests was about 10 viles, i feel really awful now, not sure if i should exercise today, maybe just some strength training? Maybe i will feel better in an hour or so. Work out time is around 11:30. I went to the better lab and they took me right back, no one was waiting,

Meri, what are you having evaluated and what do you think you might see?
everything! basic blood tests for things like iron, zinc, vit D, and then a lot of thyroid tests and metabolic tests. My friend who is an RD and nutritionist had a long chat with me and thinks based on some symptoms and family history that i may have some insulin resistance and wanted to check the thyroid stuff since a lot of women have thyroid issues post baby, even though i had tests done post partum, i think it was just T3, this was several thyroid tests including thyroid antibodies, etc.
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Post by: diablita on March 20, 2012, 09:54:16 AM
RA, you are good.  When I have a mega craving night I generally cave.  And I did have one last night in fact (hormonal) and didn't do too badly -- a mini granola bar (courtesy of DD's snack stash) and 2 Hershey's kisses.

I really need to decide what kind of plan I want to follow because when I fail to plan...


Laurlita, sorry you're sick.  I hope the cold and the rainy weather blow over quickly!
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Post by: Run Amok on March 20, 2012, 09:54:22 AM
Thanks everyone! 14 blood tests was about 10 viles, i feel really awful now, not sure if i should exercise today, maybe just some strength training? Maybe i will feel better in an hour or so. Work out time is around 11:30. I went to the better lab and they took me right back, no one was waiting,
 everything! basic blood tests for things like iron, zinc, vit D, and then a lot of thyroid tests and metabolic tests. My friend who is an RD and nutritionist had a long chat with me and thinks based on some symptoms and family history that i may have some insulin resistance and wanted to check the thyroid stuff since a lot of women have thyroid issues post baby, even though i had tests done post partum, i think it was just T3, this was several thyroid tests including thyroid antibodies, etc.

Did she have b12 tested? I was thinking about this the other day. I struggle with b12 a lot, even though I'm mindful of it and even though I'm not a vegan (and eat lots of dairy and eggs).

I do know that some people are symptomatic of thyroid issues within the normal range. Have you ever tried a test round of medications to see if it helped?
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Post by: merigayle on March 20, 2012, 10:11:51 AM
Did she have b12 tested? I was thinking about this the other day. I struggle with b12 a lot, even though I'm mindful of it and even though I'm not a vegan (and eat lots of dairy and eggs).

I do know that some people are symptomatic of thyroid issues within the normal range. Have you ever tried a test round of medications to see if it helped?
i really am not sure if that was on the list, i should have copied the paperwork. I think that was one she mentioned because i know we had a whole talk about nutritional yeast :D

I think I may bring that up with my dr if the tests are all negative. Is that something drs would do? I have asked to be tested for thyroid issues so many times throughout my life with no results showing anything but normal. My body temperature is really low and that was always a sign, imo, that the thyroid was low (my friend agrees).
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Post by: Run Amok on March 20, 2012, 10:42:03 AM
I've been experimenting with spirulina as a b12 supp. I have a history of just straight b12 supplements not doing anything for me. I used to get IM shots and then after i had one normal blood test, my dr cut me off. I need to get it tested again.

I have read online about people bullying their dr's into letting them try a round of hypothyroid medications "just to see". You might have to beg.
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Post by: merigayle on March 20, 2012, 11:29:22 AM
hmmm. i can beg, lol. i eat a lot of nutritional yeast, and that is really high in B12. we'll see what the blood tests say, i will report as each comes in.
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Post by: Run Amok on March 20, 2012, 11:37:17 AM
It will be interesting. I think the b12 test has to be handled specially. I think they have to do a black vial or something like that. It all comes down to bioavailability though, you know? I have no idea what the bioavail of yeast vs spirulina is though.
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Post by: Courtney on March 20, 2012, 12:37:08 PM
i really am not sure if that was on the list, i should have copied the paperwork. I think that was one she mentioned because i know we had a whole talk about nutritional yeast :D

I think I may bring that up with my dr if the tests are all negative. Is that something drs would do? I have asked to be tested for thyroid issues so many times throughout my life with no results showing anything but normal. My body temperature is really low and that was always a sign, imo, that the thyroid was low (my friend agrees).

Is that a thyroid symptom?  Mine is always low as well, and I've wondered if that was odd or what. 
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Post by: merigayle on March 20, 2012, 12:48:23 PM
yes, my friend the RD, who has pretty crazy thyroid stuff, Hashimotos, etc, said that is a big symptom and to take your basal body temp upon waking, in bed, to see what it reads. I can never do that with the kid.

Did my strength training TRX workout for the first time, i may not move tomorrow, LOL. off to Ikea before work! eeeek!
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Post by: Courtney on March 20, 2012, 01:51:12 PM
yes, my friend the RD, who has pretty crazy thyroid stuff, Hashimotos, etc, said that is a big symptom and to take your basal body temp upon waking, in bed, to see what it reads. I can never do that with the kid.

Did my strength training TRX workout for the first time, i may not move tomorrow, LOL. off to Ikea before work! eeeek!

I don't even own a thermometer!!  :D

I was wondering if you had tried the TRX yet!! 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 20, 2012, 02:06:42 PM


I have read online about people bullying their dr's into letting them try a round of hypothyroid medications "just to see". You might have to beg.

I tried that and was sent away with a "you are healthy" and a look like I was nuts but I have an HMO so that may play a role.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 20, 2012, 02:08:26 PM
Is that a thyroid symptom?  Mine is always low as well, and I've wondered if that was odd or what. 


I didn't know that either. Mine is always about 96 when I go to the doc. I just thought it was my cold black heart cooling my blood. :d
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Post by: merigayle on March 20, 2012, 02:55:09 PM
my friend said that that is a pretty good clue on hypothyroidism, i will ask her if she has any reading material for us chilly folks!
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 20, 2012, 03:41:22 PM
I just wanted to brag that I walked to the local pie shop (Petsi) and got a mini-cherry pie.  Smaller than the size of my palm, and totally delicious.  I don't care what price I have to pay, it was worth it.  Not binging, not emotional eating, just celebrating Spring.

 :D
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Post by: Courtney on March 20, 2012, 04:06:14 PM

I didn't know that either. Mine is always about 96 when I go to the doc. I just thought it was my cold black heart cooling my blood. :d

:D 

I have always wondered if a lower body temp correlates to a slower metabolism.  I mean, it kind of makes sense. 

Although I heat up fast when working out.  I'm always beet red and sweaty... 
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Post by: Courtney on March 20, 2012, 04:06:32 PM
I just wanted to brag that I walked to the local pie shop (Petsi) and got a mini-cherry pie.  Smaller than the size of my palm, and totally delicious.  I don't care what price I have to pay, it was worth it.  Not binging, not emotional eating, just celebrating Spring.

 :D

Woohooo! 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 20, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
Well I actually had a Dr appt today. For a change I actually like the Dr (my old Dr went to Africa so they assigned me a new one) and he is attractive to top it off. I chatted with him about my allergies (reason for my visit) and potential asthma. He suggested I try the nasal spray and if the allergy meds don't fix my breathing issues he will prescribe an inhaler. He doesn't want to send me for asthma testing necessarily because he suggested that it was a bad thing to have on your charts if you ever want to switch insurance. I didnt mention anything thyroid because I am tired of getting the "you are crazy" looks. Maybe next time I will attempt it.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 20, 2012, 04:33:08 PM
Are you getting nasonex? That is the best stuff ever. I take a shot of that every morning, a claritin every night, and use an inhaler before working out. I feel better than I have in 2 years, I swear. Except for the oak pollen-related sore throat I have right now. But the oak is so out of control that nothing short of a hazmat suit would keep me from having symptoms.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 20, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Are you getting nasonex? That is the best stuff ever. I take a shot of that every morning, a claritin every night, and use an inhaler before working out. I feel better than I have in 2 years, I swear. Except for the oak pollen-related sore throat I have right now. But the oak is so out of control that nothing short of a hazmat suit would keep me from having symptoms.

It is flonase. I am certain it will help...but if it doesnt solve the breathing problems completely i will go for the inhaler. I have used the nasal spray before about 6 years ago and it worked great but I stopped taking it and gradually the allergies came back.

I cant use the OTC drugs because they all screw with me and make me feel all zombie-like.
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Post by: Courtney on March 20, 2012, 04:51:28 PM
It is flonase. I am certain it will help...but if it doesnt solve the breathing problems completely i will go for the inhaler. I have used the nasal spray before about 6 years ago and it worked great but I stopped taking it and gradually the allergies came back.

I cant use the OTC drugs because they all screw with me and make me feel all zombie-like.
I use omnaris, except right now you can't get it (factory problem, I guess) so I'm using some other nasal spray right now.  It definitely helps. 

I had breathing issues yesterday when I ran outside, much like I did when I ran outside last week.  I need to bust out the inhaler my doc gave me.  I filled the RX, I just haven't ever used it.  I couldn't stop coughing/wheezing when I got done with my run yesterday.  GAH. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 20, 2012, 05:26:04 PM
I use omnaris, except right now you can't get it (factory problem, I guess) so I'm using some other nasal spray right now.  It definitely helps. 

I had breathing issues yesterday when I ran outside, much like I did when I ran outside last week.  I need to bust out the inhaler my doc gave me.  I filled the RX, I just haven't ever used it.  I couldn't stop coughing/wheezing when I got done with my run yesterday.  GAH. 

I cough whenever it is cold or I am working hard but I really only wheeze badly when I am having an allergy attack (like when a dog is around).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 20, 2012, 05:50:27 PM
My throat feels like someone is dragging a rake across it. I'm debating whether or not to go to the gym tonight.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 20, 2012, 06:00:54 PM
i love flonase!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 20, 2012, 06:23:06 PM
My throat feels like someone is dragging a rake across it. I'm debating whether or not to go to the gym tonight.  :sigh:

Maybe you are coming down with a cold?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 20, 2012, 06:23:30 PM
i love flonase!

Hopefully i will also.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 20, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
Hopefully i will also.  :D
years ago when my allergies were really bad it was flonase + singulair + claritin, that trifecta was the key.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 20, 2012, 09:46:07 PM
Maybe you are coming down with a cold?

I've wondered about that, but my throat has been scratchy since Sunday with no real improvement and not really getting any worse, either. It's just annoying enough to be noticeably painful, but not so bad that I think I've got strep or something. And if it were a cold, it would have knocked my on my ass already.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 21, 2012, 01:04:37 AM
I made ceaser salad tonight. 12 points but it was so damn good! And I still have extra points because I skipped breakfast today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 21, 2012, 08:35:58 AM
{{debba's raw throat}}

Claratin alone seems to be keeping the worst of the allergies under control right now, but the trees are just starting to bloom. 

Today I am wearing the world's largest size 5-6 skirt.  It's not even vaguely tight. I know it's gross size inflation, but my size 8-10 ass loves it.  It's too warm, even in the office, for a jacket so I'm grunging around in a t-shirt.  It might brush 80 degrees today - whoa!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 21, 2012, 09:30:08 AM
I made ceaser salad tonight. 12 points but it was so damn good! And I still have extra points because I skipped breakfast today.
Skipped breakfast???? Don't do that on a regular basis! The furnace needs fuel to burn.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 21, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
I am about ready to wear sandals. The only thing stopping me is the bare leg thing. The other day I wore footless tights under a summer weight skirt with flats and no socks.
I saw some footless tights in Target yesterday....but didn't pick them up. That might be the answer though because I can't deal with panty hose.
Yeah, I look like I am trying to be a 30 something. Ask me if I give a shit :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 21, 2012, 09:48:33 AM
Urgh. Still throat stuff - no better, no worse. It has to be allergies. The trees are exploding all over the place. Oh, and did I mention I'm supposed to be doing a 10K this weekend? Excellent. There was no way I was going to be able to run the whole thing anyway, but good Lord, I'll be lucky if I can crawl it now. DAMMIT.

Maybe I'll see if I can get out for a shuffle tonight and see how I feel.

Waffles and smoothie for breakfast. Usual for lunch. Pasta and tomato/tomato sauce (homemade) tonight. Yogurt and veggies for a snack.

I'm up about half a pound from last week, but my period finally decided to show up (THANK. GOD.), so really, half a pound isn't too shabby.

'Scuse me, I'm off for some DFW.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 21, 2012, 10:38:14 AM
So, looking ahead and I think I'm going to take most of the month of april (plus next week off). It's just too hard for me to be disciplined when I'm on the road. I am leaving on friday night for the usvi for a week. I come back late saturday night. Then, I get on a plane early tuesday AM for ohio, returning late on friday. Then, home for a week and then fly out to NY for a sun-fri trip.

Yes, I know I could work really extra super hard to stay on plan... but I'm not going to. It really is just too hard and I'm not ready to tackle it just yet. I'll just pick up where I leftoff in may.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 21, 2012, 10:49:19 AM
RA, I think you've developed a lot of discipline and habits that will serve you well on your trip and throughout April, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that you're in really good shape come May - probably MUCH better shape than you think you will be.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 21, 2012, 11:11:14 AM
Skipped breakfast???? Don't do that on a regular basis! The furnace needs fuel to burn.

I don't usually. Yesterday I just had a banana because I had just run and I wasn't hungry.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 21, 2012, 12:00:01 PM
I don't usually. Yesterday I just had a banana because I had just run and I wasn't hungry.
Banana's are good, better then nothing and in my opinion if you are going to skip a meal way better then other fruit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 21, 2012, 12:16:28 PM
So i met wtih my therapist this morning and i really brought up some of my body image issues, it was good to discuss it with him. i had mentioned body image issues in the past in passing years ago, but i started seeing him when i was pregnant, so it was really not an issue then, i felt fine pregnant. waiting on the results, hopefully soon, i keep checking my phone.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 21, 2012, 12:17:18 PM
Good luck, meri - I'll be really curious to see what kind of results you get.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 21, 2012, 05:24:54 PM
Debba - hope you feel better soon...scratchy throats are just annoying.
Meri - glad you had a good discussion today.
hally - I say go ahead and wear the sandals!  Get some amazingly cute shoes and no-one will notice the bare legs thing.
RA - enjoy yourself and the time off.  I've relaxed my eating a bit and have been able to maintain.  Even when I want to let totally lose, the habits from the WLC have stuck with me.
Mouse - if you're checking in here.  Have a fabulous time!

Well, it has been a full week since I last ran.  Really pathetic excuses.  But today I ran 4.5 miles and felt great.  I also did my push-ups and abs.  It's been a while since I was able to get it all together.  I had to lay down and nap immediately afterwards....which is odd.  Somedays I feel revved up after a workout but others I am so drained and tired.

Food has been pretty good today too.  Not sure what to have for dinner.  The fridge needs a good clean out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 21, 2012, 05:57:38 PM
Good job, Bolloxd! I'm just worn out right now. Hormones, allergies, not sleeping well, blerg. I just want to go to bed.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 21, 2012, 06:50:37 PM
I hope there is nothing wrong with bare legs!!  I'm wearing a skirt & sandals today, and this isn't even the first time this year :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on March 21, 2012, 11:35:46 PM
So somehow I need to find my mojo back :sigh: I was just getting so frustrated with feeling like I was trying so hard and not seeing any improvement that I just said screw it :-[ Although if I'm truly honest with myself, I can see where I haven't been truly committed in a while.  On the one hand I keep using the excuse that I just can't seem to lose weight while I'm breastfeeding but on the other i just need to get my ass in gear and eat right and get my butt up to exercise. 

So, any ideas for helping me make that happen? I really just need to commit to getting up at 5 and getting some sort of workout in; the problem comes in that K loves to nurse sometime around then and if I go later, it throws off the routine for getting me and the boys ready for work and school.  I also need to find an accountability partner who can give me lots of tough love with emphasis on the tough!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 22, 2012, 12:42:50 AM
So somehow I need to find my mojo back :sigh: I was just getting so frustrated with feeling like I was trying so hard and not seeing any improvement that I just said screw it :-[ Although if I'm truly honest with myself, I can see where I haven't been truly committed in a while.  On the one hand I keep using the excuse that I just can't seem to lose weight while I'm breastfeeding but on the other i just need to get my ass in gear and eat right and get my butt up to exercise. 

So, any ideas for helping me make that happen? I really just need to commit to getting up at 5 and getting some sort of workout in; the problem comes in that K loves to nurse sometime around then and if I go later, it throws off the routine for getting me and the boys ready for work and school.  I also need to find an accountability partner who can give me lots of tough love with emphasis on the tough!

Ever tried WW? I find it super motivating but I have to commit to going to the meetings. It doesn't work for me online.

Maybe we should start a new weight loss challenge in here.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 22, 2012, 12:52:26 AM
I stepped on a scale and am down 4.2 pounds from Sunday's weigh in. Now I wasn't wearing clothing (like I obviously do at WW) and I just finished running so I was dehydrated but still I hope a couple of them actually stick.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 22, 2012, 07:21:17 AM
AS- can you find a work out buddy? I am going to start doing 5am workouts after my race next week, well, after i recover!

MM- hope they stick! i love weighing myself post run :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 22, 2012, 08:39:30 AM
10K?  Yay Debba!   I wish!

Weighed in preposterously low (-3 from yesterday), I must have been holding my gut up with my hand or something.  Still, it made me optimistic that if I don't meet my end of March goal next week, it should be fairly soon in April. 

I wish the weather could hold out for the weekend, but it looks like we're headed back into normal Spring temps.  Had the windows open all night last night, and walked the dog in shorts this morning. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 22, 2012, 08:41:12 AM
I hope there is nothing wrong with bare legs!!  I'm wearing a skirt & sandals today, and this isn't even the first time this year :D 

All week I've been showing off my pasty white legs in skirts and sandals.  And ya gotta do bare legs if you ever want them to get a bit of sun.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 22, 2012, 08:46:16 AM
I have to tighten up my diet again.  For the past few weeks I've been less vigilant because I've just been so hungry and running so much.  But it suddenly started feeling like it was catching up with me this week.    And then last night I had a grabbed a pair of shorts I haven't worn in a while to wear at the gym, and damn I forgot how unflattering they are.   So I felt fat and uncomfortable during my workout, which was no good.   Those shorts are going right back to the back of the drawer!   Ugh.    At least the warm weather makes me crave salad...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on March 22, 2012, 09:29:38 AM
I haven't dropped any weight in a few weeks.  But my clothes are fitting more loosely & my friends (unsolicited) said I look tiny. 

It always works this way for me.  Drop pounds without a size change, physically shrink, then alternate. I don't get it, but whatever.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 22, 2012, 09:39:47 AM
Thanks, Mini - please note, I'll be walking the vast majority of it. The VAST majority of it. I am in no shape to run a 10K, much less this one, which is almost all hills and starts at 9 AM.  :panic:

Did okay last night. Scale was up this morning, which just depresses me, even though I know a fair amount is hormones (I hate my period), and a lot is sodium. Ain't no way I ate enough to gain 2 pounds, not even since Saturday (my weigh-in day), much less overnight. I'm really fighting that whole "I'm never going to break through past this number so why even keep trying" feeling.  :sigh:

AS - I'm really struggling with the 5 AM thing, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 22, 2012, 10:54:21 AM
I'm in bare legs today, not sandals though, I didn't like the way the dark polish looked with them. Need to get that changed next week.

WW Weigh in same as last week. *sigh* I have 96 activity points this week, used 68 of them and 0 weekly. I only use them the day I earn them, guess I need to try to stay within the 49 extra points no matter whether they are activity or weekly. They tell you to "use those weekly points and earn those AP's " but truth told I do better not using all of the WP's and none of the AP's. Damn annoying but it's a work in progress. Trying to stop the negative thoughts.
Oh well, maybe next week I will have a loss.

 I got new running shoes woohooo! Been a few years, I wasn't running much.
Been running nearly every morning during the week for a few months, ordered a new pair and like I said it's been so long I ordered the wrong size!
Luckily, I have the boardwalk to try them out on and realized they were too short. I go up half a size, sent them back to runningwarehouse.com for the right size.

Today I am browsing sandals on DSW. They have 35% off and free shipping if you spend $149 or something. Maybe I will just go there after work :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on March 22, 2012, 11:53:53 AM
Lets do a new challenge! I might be brave enough to join this time  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 22, 2012, 12:10:46 PM
I'll probably cheer you guys from the sidelines this time since there will be several weeks I won't be able to check in (no scale on the road). Who's gonna run this bad boy?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 22, 2012, 01:04:42 PM
I'm in bare legs today, not sandals though, I didn't like the way the dark polish looked with them. Need to get that changed next week.

WW Weigh in same as last week. *sigh* I have 96 activity points this week, used 68 of them and 0 weekly. I only use them the day I earn them, guess I need to try to stay within the 49 extra points no matter whether they are activity or weekly. They tell you to "use those weekly points and earn those AP's " but truth told I do better not using all of the WP's and none of the AP's. Damn annoying but it's a work in progress. Trying to stop the negative thoughts.
Oh well, maybe next week I will have a loss.

 I got new running shoes woohooo! Been a few years, I wasn't running much.
Been running nearly every morning during the week for a few months, ordered a new pair and like I said it's been so long I ordered the wrong size!
Luckily, I have the boardwalk to try them out on and realized they were too short. I go up half a size, sent them back to runningwarehouse.com for the right size.

Today I am browsing sandals on DSW. They have 35% off and free shipping if you spend $149 or something. Maybe I will just go there after work :)


FWIW in all my years on WW I never used activity points. I personally think they give on way too many of them and when I did use them I never lost weight.

I do use some of my weekly points but if I really want to use I have to not use most of those also.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 22, 2012, 02:54:45 PM
FWIW in all my years on WW I never used activity points. I personally think they give on way too many of them and when I did use them I never lost weight.

I do use some of my weekly points but if I really want to use I have to not use most of those also.
Truth be told I can't get away with too many extra points either. Some people use all their extras and still lose. Annoying as shit but that's life.
Today in the meeting I said that I was having a hard time staying within my points (and I upgraded the new PP back to 29 because screw that, a person who does the amount of exercise I do can't live on 26)  if I used all 3 dairy they want me to have at my age plus the two oils and she said if you use the extras for that kind of thing instead of for (insert your goodie here, mine is alcohol) that you should still lose. I say every week I am going to try harder but dammit, I like my goddamned beer, wine and the occasional martini! Ah well, tomorrow starts a new week ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 22, 2012, 03:04:24 PM
RA- i thought of you today while watching this week's Biggest loser on the TM, they went to Hawaii to show that they could lose weight on vacation :D

oh, since i am not losing weight by eating minimally, i am eating closer to 1400-1600 calories/day and good lord, i am up a pound, wahoo., will call the dr tomorrow and see if any results came in.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 22, 2012, 03:16:58 PM
hally - ya for new running shoes!!  and new shoes in general!  :D
all-smiles - is there a chance someone else could give K a bottle of breastmilk at that time if he needs it?
There is no F*n way I'd be able to get up at 5 without some major changes.  One of the main reasons I have yet to run a 5K lately is because I do not want to get up & be ready & be somewhere to run by 9:00 am!

Debba - no matter how bad you think you suck at your 10K, at least you are doing it!! Good for you!!
caito - throw the shorts away & get some nice flattering ones that make you feel good.  With all of the work/training you've been doing lately I think you deserve it.
Mini - I'm sure you'll be super close to your goal by the end of March. 
Jamers - unsolicited comments & praise is great!  Enjoy it!


As for me, today I had some baked oatmeal muffin things for breakfast.  Apparently I'm skipping lunch - that seems to be a trend lately...no lunch but early dinner.  I've got ham in the crockpot and some yeast rolls rising.  I'll figure out some type of veggie.  I've started my first batch of the 5 minute Artisan bread today, so that should be ready to try tomorrow.  I've also got an Orange Pound Cake in the oven.... if the cake tastes anything like the batter, it will be awesome!

I'm feeling a little achy from my abs & push ups yesterday... I guess that is a good thing.  I'm wearing a maxi dress that I bought the other day.  It feels very weird, but comfortable, because I *never* wear anything like this.  Even DH is a little surprised.   I have also started using some fake tan to ease the pasty factor of my legs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 22, 2012, 03:26:23 PM
Thanks, Bolloxd! I needed that - feeling very defeated right now. I haven't done anything exceptionally off-track, I'm just very bleh. I'd had a good, solid few weeks and now the hormones are here and I've gained a bit and I'm wondering why I did all that hard work because there is CLEARLY no point and I'm doomed, DOOMED, I TELL YOU, to be fat for the rest of my life.

Stupid hormones.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 22, 2012, 03:53:51 PM
Thanks, Bolloxd! I needed that - feeling very defeated right now. I haven't done anything exceptionally off-track, I'm just very bleh. I'd had a good, solid few weeks and now the hormones are here and I've gained a bit and I'm wondering why I did all that hard work because there is CLEARLY no point and I'm doomed, DOOMED, I TELL YOU, to be fat for the rest of my life.

Stupid hormones.

Isn't horrible how they make us loathe life a few days a month?  Doooooomed....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 22, 2012, 04:06:48 PM
Dooooooooooooomed!!!!!

 :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

 :sigh:

That said, I haven't thrown in the towel and binged, so there's a light at the end of the tunnel. Granted, it's probably an oncoming train, but at least it's light!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 22, 2012, 04:27:31 PM
I have also started using some fake tan to ease the pasty factor of my legs.

Yeah, good idea. You need sunglasses to look at mine :D
Major problem with going early on the bare legs.
I liked the footless tights they had in Target the other day but didn't really have time to look at the sizes/weights. But I think they are a good idea for the transition. You can still do the sandals without blinding anyone.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 22, 2012, 04:33:58 PM
People just have to wear sunglasses to look at me. I'm no good at maintaining a fake tan, and I don't want/can't achieve a real one.  8) Sorry, y'all.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 22, 2012, 04:44:18 PM
I don't really WANT a tan....but being that I am outdoors a ton I tend to get a little color on my legs. Even with 30 SPF.

Meri, I sure hope you get some answers ASAP.

I was looking through my bag and found an Amazon Local deal I bought, $30 for $60 at a place on the boardwalk here and it expires 4/1
I am really busy next week and going away this weekend, so even though I can't find anyone to go with me tonight I am going to use it.
It says no alcoholic drinks included, the entrees and apps better be tres expensive to get my money's worth! :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 22, 2012, 04:51:37 PM
I've already had melanoma once and was really, really lucky that we caught it super-early. I'd rather not do that again, thanks. And I'm just really bad about applying and then maintaining fake tanner.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 22, 2012, 05:18:28 PM
Yeah, I don't purposely go seeking sun. I have had two things removed from my face already too, with MOHS surgery. And I don't burn easily.
But like I said I am an outdoors type, and it's really hard to stay out of it totally on a road bike even though we have a lot of shade where I ride. I wear heavy sunblock, don't lay out in it, if I do go to the beach I sit under an umbrella and I get a full body check regularly at the dermatologists.

OK, out of here, off tomorrow. Going up to near Great Barrington, MA to hike the Massachusetts Mt Washington on Saturday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on March 22, 2012, 05:19:32 PM
People just have to wear sunglasses to look at me. I'm no good at maintaining a fake tan, and I don't want/can't achieve a real one.  8) Sorry, y'all.

This is me.  I don't tan at all, just burn and peel.  No thanks!  When I think about it (which is like once every 2 weeks) I'll use the tinted moisturizer on my legs.  Not sure it really helps though.  Eh, whatever.  I am contemplating getting a spray tan before my wedding.  I should probably test it out in advance, to make sure I don't turn a weird color.

Not much to report on the healthy eating/fitness front.  It's that time of the month, and when I'm crampy I don't want to go to the gym.  Instead I stay home and eat M&M's. No bueno.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 22, 2012, 05:38:39 PM
Don't do anything before your wedding that you haven't fully tested. If you want to try a tan, make sure it doesn't turn you a weird color, AND make sure it won't come off on your dress! Also, if you're like me, stuff on your skin takes a long damn time to fade - so try it now. I got a tiny little henna tattoo on my ankle in June before my wedding in September, and you could still see the traces of it if you looked really closely. My mom was totally freaked out that it was still there in August. I refrained from pointing out that no one would see the effing thing under my big poofy dress, but she was on the stressed out side, so I didn't.

If you do turn orange, you want time for that to fade out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on March 22, 2012, 05:49:30 PM
Yeah, that's what I figured.  If I try a tan, it will probably be in April so I've got a good long time for it to fade.  I don't get married until July.  Though to be honest, I might just embrace the pastiness that is my complexion.  Kenyan doesn't seem to mind it and then it's one less thing I have to worry about that week!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 22, 2012, 08:18:03 PM
If you're like me, you'll be lucky if a spray tan in April has faded by July. I'm just saying. Do the lightest possible setting, if you do it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 22, 2012, 09:29:20 PM
Whew! I'm all caught up (again.) Since this isn't in yammering, I sometimes forget to check in on the thread! Oops....

Anywho, things have been going relatively well. Running and continuing to do my Jillian DVDs (I will finish week 5 this week!) My knee has been hurting since my HM in Feb due to what I suspect is ITB, so I have to use a knee band thingy. It works enough so that my knee doesn't hurt much afterwards. I have kept it to under 4 miles, though. This weekend, I'm going to try to ratchet it up to 5 miles for my "long" run....  :fingers:

I've been trying to tweak my calorie limits. I used an online BMR calculator and it indicates that the calorie deficit level given to me by My Fitness Pal is too high (as in, it's telling me to eat too many calories every day.) The past few days, I've been able to eat under my calories. Last night, I tried a new kickboxing class (SO fun- got 10 classes with a groupon!) I am soooooo sore, btw. I can feel the muscles inside my butt cheeks.  :hah: I can tell there's a lot of fat on my booty since the muscles feel realllllly deep inside the cheeks (paging Fionn...) Anyway, I left a lot of extra calories yesterday and today, I've been starving! I had to stop at Target to pick up a prescription and got a reeses pb cup. :( Then, dad had Stouffers Mac/cheese for us for dinner- in the "individual" servings. The full fat kind. I never eat that! And it turns out, those trays are TWO servings. :( After dinner, I've been watching tv and wanting something more (ugh.. not sure how!) and instead of eating the coconut gelato in the freezer, I had some grape nuts with almond milk. Probably even calorie-wise, but at least it's semi-healthier (right??)

Bollxd- glad you are getting back into your routine! The weather sure makes it easier to convince ourselves to run, at least!
RA- I think you taking a month break will not undo everything you've done. As others said, I bet your habits will carry through. Can you take running shoes and/or a workout dvd with you? When I travel, I absolutely LOVE to run in new places!! It's my very favorite way to get to know new places! I'm not a morning person at.all, but I will get up super early if it means a special early run before my day begins even when travelling. :) That way, you aren't being anxious about it, but it can be part of your trip (running on the beach is heaven!!)
Meri- any word yet on results? (I know it's still early, though...)
Onawhim, how is mom? :)
Debba- have fun at your 10k!! I think just the mental aspect of participating with other runners will help inspire you. I love the excitement of a race! :)

Re wedding weight.... yeah I'm trying to lose about 13 lbs (18 if I really want to dream) before the wedding. It may or may not happen....I'm trying to focus on how I look (toned/fit) vs. size, but still... I've been obsessed with listening to the Jillian Michaels podcasts. She calls the last 20lbs or so "vanity pounds", meaning that your body may be *perfectly* healthy where it is (meri, I suspect this is YOU, despite your own weight goals). So, it works hard to NOT lose anymore... she has a book called Making the Cut about how to specifically target those pounds that I think I'm going to get after payday. I hope that through tweaking and working out, I can get to my goal by this summer so all I have to do is maintain.
 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 22, 2012, 09:49:48 PM
Did someone say "white and pasty"?  :D

Meri, when are you getting your results?  I'm dying to know!
Glad you all are doing well.  And Bolloxd, you look REALLY amazing.

I'm down a pound.  I just need to focus on healthy choices and keeping the nighttime snacking to a minimum for now.

I want to hear about the TRX workout.  Did you do a tape along with the TRX or just print out a list of moves to follow?  I went to a class given at a Pilates studio and LOVED it but it's across town so not convenient to go all the time.  I could hardly move for a week!
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Post by: leggova on March 23, 2012, 04:55:14 AM
I go to trx at least once a week....i am actually off to a class right now.  :heartbeat: :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 23, 2012, 07:18:17 AM
oooh i used to take the most killer kickboxing classes  in boston. enjoy! i bought a groupon to learn rock climbing, eek! i will call the dr this morning and check if any results are in. i am not  happy at my weight and was 10lbs lighter last year and 20lbs lighter before getting pregnant, i do not think i am being unreasonable in my weight goals. Even 20lbs lighter does not put me underweight or close to it for my height.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on March 23, 2012, 09:21:54 AM
My mom is going home so I am off to Ottawa to stay with her till tuesday.  No internet again  :panic:  Thank god for iphones  :D

I hope you get this figured out meri  :fingers:

I am the pastiest of the pasty.  I burn in 2 seconds and am one of those wear long sleeves at the beach people.  Spray tan does not work for me.  Rock the pale I say!
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Post by: debbatx on March 23, 2012, 09:32:16 AM
Scale is still up this morning. Apparently I'm going to have to have a chat with my hormones about self-sabotage and weight loss. I'm frustrated because I was finally seeing tiny, incremental progress, and now I'm right back where I was. Like I said yesterday - doooooooooooooooomed. *sigh*

In-laws come tomorrow. 10K on Sunday. I'm going to have to get up at 5 next week and work out religiously - we inevitably eat like crap when they come to visit. :mad2:

Off to get some DFW!

Good luck today, everyone!
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Post by: merigayle on March 23, 2012, 09:51:19 AM
left message on the "results" line at the dr.......
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 23, 2012, 10:28:10 AM
Scale up a half-pound from yesterday, but that's less of a correction than I expected and still leaves me on track to come close to meeting March goal. 

Am constantly checking my reflection in any reflective surface. And digging what I see. I am becoming a total narcissist!  I seem to swing between thinking I'm a total porker and seeing the new slimmer me. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 23, 2012, 10:48:05 AM
Ok this week is going to be hard. First we are driving down to our wedding location to taste cake at three different bakeries. Yummy but not so ww friendly.  We also want to eat at the bbq place we hired for the wedding as I haven't actually eaten there in years. Hopefully I saved enough extra points.

But then we are driving down to LA for the week because I have a statistics workshop. Pray that they don't have yummy snacks and that I can make good choices eating out all week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 23, 2012, 10:50:28 AM
BBQ meat in and of itself isn't that bad, points-wise. It's the sides that'll kill ya.
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Post by: Run Amok on March 23, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
Well, last weigh in before vacation and I was down 3+lbs. It's just water though- I had a hellish day yesterday and wasn't good about eating or drinking (except for coffee), so i'm certain it's a dehydration #.

Meri, good luck with our #'s can't wait to hear the verdict.
Mini- you've been rocking this and have the results to show for it! Up days happen and down days happen- hally's right, it's the trend that matters and you continue to trend downward.
OAW- good luck on your visit with your mama.
MM- ugh, I hate that.
L, L, and D- welcome back!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Miss on March 23, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
I did HORRIBLE yesterday but I'm trying to jump back in to WW today and I'm going to run twice to make up for the damage.    :stupid:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 23, 2012, 12:43:04 PM
today is a new day, Miss!

left a message for the dr, i know she leaves early today and i am really annoyed that i probably won't hear back until Monday and i was hoping to see her on monday per the results today  :grr: :sigh: :-[
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Post by: merigayle on March 23, 2012, 01:01:42 PM
i am eating a yummy lunch of brown rice and seitan. I think RA mentioned seitan to me, i rarely eat it, but our little natural food store carries a locally made seitan that is to die for and i saw it there the other day (it is not always in stock) and it is soooooo good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 23, 2012, 01:07:13 PM
We are heading up to the mountains to the casino town for the night, to celebrate my birthday (Monday)...  then tomorrow night, I have a girls' night at my friend's house. 

So um, it's not gonna be pretty.  But I'm not going to spend the weekend worried about calories.  I'm going to enjoy myself, work on not eating to excess, and drink a bit.  I'll also be working out, but a reasonable amount. 

Caito, throw those shorts away!!  There is no reason to keep them.  I hate that feeling...  I wore something to yoga the other day and spent the entire time more focused on whether my tummy was poking out than on the poses.   :nono:  Fuck that noise.   :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 23, 2012, 06:17:38 PM
diablita -  :heartbeat:
meri -  :fingers:
onawhim -  :hug:
mini -  :bow2:
courtney -  :cake:

I barely managed to squeeze my run in today... I had to take both dogs to the vet for a check-up during kids' nap time.  Then when I started running on the TM, about 10 minutes in David woke up.  Luckily he entertained himself for awhile, of course he tried his best to wake up Rachel.  I got a quick 4 miles in, so I'm happy.  I did push-ups, but no abs.  I've been munching really great oranges with the kids all day...they are addicted to them.  And, yesterday's pound cake turned out great. 

I had considered doing a 5K tomorrow, but it is supposed to be raining... so, umm,  :nono:.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 23, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
Great job, Bolloxd!

Pasta with roasted tomatoes and ricotta-salata tonight. SO yummy. Except I think Reid is moving his play kitchen around, so I need to go check on that now.

Courtney, happy birthday!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 23, 2012, 08:29:18 PM
debba, that sounds delicious!  we had couscous, meatballs (ground turkey for them, pre-made eggplant version for me) and wild mushrooms

but...not enough running this week b/c of meetings.  on the other hand, we closed on our refi today which was nice.

 
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Post by: debbatx on March 23, 2012, 08:44:18 PM
It was delicious - and super easy. Just takes time to cut up all the little tomatoes. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 23, 2012, 10:38:35 PM
oooh i used to take the most killer kickboxing classes  in boston. enjoy! i bought a groupon to learn rock climbing, eek! i will call the dr this morning and check if any results are in. i am not  happy at my weight and was 10lbs lighter last year and 20lbs lighter before getting pregnant, i do not think i am being unreasonable in my weight goals. Even 20lbs lighter does not put me underweight or close to it for my height.

Oh I definitely don't think your goals are unreasonable for you. But your body may have other plans. I think of my weight like a rubberband. I can temporarily get lower than a certain number that always seems to get me stuck, but it always seems to snap back to that weight my body thinks is "right." (Which is at the higher end of the weight range for my height.) I've never ever been able to get down to the lower end. I think running and working out AND being veggie just means I will always be a little bit bigger than my brain wants. It sounds corny, but when I'm annoyed about my thighs that are bigger than I wish they were, I try to be grateful at how strong they are to carry me through my runs. (Yeah, I know.. corny!) I really hope that you find out what is going on soon!  :hug:

I did not work out today at all for the second day in a row! :( I was planning on getting up for Jillian this morning (and possibly running after work) but I didn't set the right alarm and slept through the time I would have needed to get up for that. Then, I was just so exhausted this afternoon that I came straight home, had dinner and took a 3hr nap.  :-\ My sister and I are supposed to go to kickboxing again tomorrow morning, but she's asleep so I can't confirm with her. I need to make up my missed Jillian workout, too. And, we've got a 2:00 appt at a bridal shop to look for a brides maid dress. Should be fun!


Debba- don't stress about the visitors! Just do your thing. You really are in control of what you order, no matter what the others are eating. Don't feel you have to eat crap just bc they are!! :)

bolluxd- I hear you on not running in the rain! The past several races I've signed up for (and run- including a half marathon!) have been rainy!!! It's like some weird curse lately. I'm over it. No fun. Enjoy sleeping in! ;)

Courtney- have fun! Happy birthday!!
 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 24, 2012, 06:56:59 AM
my thighs are so big that i have not worn shorts since i had DD almost 3 years ago. chub rub. i was 10lbs lighter last year and the year before, so i do not think i am being unreasonable.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 24, 2012, 08:09:25 AM
{{Meri}} Chub rub is a fact of life for me.  No amount of weight loss means my thighs don't touch.

Last night I chose the best possible premenstrual task: putting away winter clothes and getting out spring/summer clothes.

And last night I chose the worst possible premenstrual task: trying on my old skinny summer clothes.

The bad news is they're still too tight.  The good news is they go on and zip.  So my goal of 10-20 more pounds will take me to fitting them very comfortably.  Woo hoo! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 24, 2012, 08:24:30 AM
yeah for summer skinny clothes!

prior to getting pregnant, i never had chub rub and wore shorts all the time, but since then, it is capris or compression shorts. i hate it. i have an entire huge closet of work clothes that do not fit and i have a dresser full of running clothes that do not fit.  :argh:

oh yeah, gonna call the dr now....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 24, 2012, 09:25:31 AM
Woot! The scale was down this morning!!! Only .3, but still. Down! I'll take it!

Lanarkshire, thanks for the support. I know I'm in charge of what I eat. The problem is that my very picky, very set in his ways FIL has certain restaurants he "has" to go to when they visit, and they don't have very good choices, so it's one of those things where I have to get a not great choice as opposed to a terrible choice, if that makes sense. One day or night like that wouldn't be a big deal, but a week adds up.

Getting up at 5 and working out is going to be my best defense, I think. :P

That reminds me, I need to look at the menu for tonight and see what I should get. Olive Garden. FFS.  :eye roll:

Mini, I hear you on the chub rub. Oh, do I hear you. Oof. Hate it. I haven't let it keep me away from shorts, though - it's just too hot here in the summers to not wear shorts.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 24, 2012, 09:34:04 AM
Holy shit, I just looked at the info on the Olive Garden. I'll be getting linguine with marinara. Everything else is outrageous. Holy shit.
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Post by: Ice Cream on March 24, 2012, 11:22:46 AM
Holy shit, I just looked at the info on the Olive Garden. I'll be getting linguine with marinara. Everything else is outrageous. Holy shit.

And it is very tasty.  I never ordered anything else there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 24, 2012, 11:41:08 AM
That's good to know, at least - thanks Ice Cream. It's still something like 12 points, which is nuts for pasta and marinara, but everything else is at least 18.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 24, 2012, 03:06:58 PM
our anniversary is Wed and MIL sent us a huge harry and david package. Luckily DH devours most of it before i even see it, but i did get my hand into the moose munch, omg!

Good luck Debba at Olive Garden, this is one reason why we never eat out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 24, 2012, 03:50:00 PM
Olive Garden...  :drool:  I haven't been in so long.  I'm guessing the kids unruliness has affected my weight loss too, since we don't eat out nearly as much as we used to.

So, today has been weird for me.  Oatmeal for breakfast then we took the kids to story time.  I have been feeling odd lately... tired & worn out and really wanting/needing naps the last few days.  My lower back has been hurting - my usual endometriosis type pain.  And today I've been very dizzy on & off, just spaced out really.  I've got a whole 'nother week till that TOM so it shouldn't really be hormone related.  Then I have the whole infertility issues floating around in my brain. 

As an aside - I don't know anything about the Hunger Games movie, but it has been on the news lately because it was filmed very locally.  I don't know what scenes it is in, but there is a small mill-house village that has been run down for awhile.  My grandma lived in one of those houses while her dad worked at the mill.  I remember they were doing 'something' around that little village awhile back because it was on our way into town and we'd get stopped to make sure we actually lived in the area.  DH & I always said it would be a fantastic movie set - I guess someone else thought so too.  The mill & houses have a for sale sign up now - I guess the owner wants some big bucks now that a movie has been filmed there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 24, 2012, 07:16:09 PM
they filmed one of the last M Night movies in the next town and all the roads were closed, etc. It was really funny to see the movie with all the local spots on it!

I am super duper crampy today. I went to a bday party w DD and ate 1/2 piece of pizza, no cake.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 24, 2012, 07:55:45 PM
That's good to know, at least - thanks Ice Cream. It's still something like 12 points, which is nuts for pasta and marinara, but everything else is at least 18.  :nono:

What about the salad? Get the dressing on the side. Not so fun as pasta, but still better. And you don't have to eat all of the pasta, right? Just get it and divide your plate in half. Eat only that half (ie 6 points...) I would even ask for less pasta to begin with.

Of course, not that I've been virtuous tonight. We went bridesmaid dress shopping today. Oof. Exhausting! We ended up going out for dinner at a tapas place... battered and fried green beans, grilled artichoke hearts (amAzing!), truffle oil fries, 2 fried goat cheese balls and a mini empanada with acorn squash and manchego. And a skinny margarita.  :-[ It was small, though, and honestly not even that good! I would have preferred wine or sangria. Damn. Luckily everything was small portions, so I'm full, but not stuffed. It was nice to have a decent meal, though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 24, 2012, 07:57:17 PM
yeah for summer skinny clothes!

prior to getting pregnant, i never had chub rub and wore shorts all the time, but since then, it is capris or compression shorts. i hate it. i have an entire huge closet of work clothes that do not fit and i have a dresser full of running clothes that do not fit.  :argh:

oh yeah, gonna call the dr now....

Maybe the pregnancy and hormones changed where you carry weight? I know that my tummy tuck definately caused me to now gain more weight in my legs and arms than I would have otherwise.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 24, 2012, 08:04:07 PM
Ok WW was this morning and we went even though we are out of town. I was down 1.8 which I am happy about but it really seemed like their scale was calibrated differently than the one at our place. Whatever...weight loss is weight loss so I am not going to bitch. Antag only lost 0.6 so I get to hold that over his head.  :d We ran before and didnt eat before so I honestly thought we both would have been lower.

We went cake tasting today...supposed to be 2 places but one place was apparently run by idiots who thought that my email saying I was from out of town, only coming in for one weekend and would need to decide this weekend meant that I wanted to sit down and look at pictures and not taste the damn cakes so we walked out. The second place was really good but somehow a cupcake and a half totally overloaded me on sugar and I still feel a bit shitty. My eating is ok. I havent made the healthiest choices ever. We had BBQ last night at the place that we are using for our wedding so not super healthy but we shared one meal so that made it better. Today I had half of a hamburger and half of a tri tip salad for lunch. Again not the healthiest choice but at least we shared. Hopefully I can cool it when we get to LA. Being here in my old college town for the weekend makes me want to eat at all my favorite college places.
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Post by: merigayle on March 24, 2012, 08:08:35 PM
Maybe the pregnancy and hormones changed where you carry weight? I know that my tummy tuck definately caused me to now gain more weight in my legs and arms than I would have otherwise.
oh my weight is for sure distributed differently, but i am 20lbs above my pre pregnancy weight, so that may have something to do with it  :grr: :sigh: :eyeroll:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 24, 2012, 08:21:44 PM
oh my weight is for sure distributed differently, but i am 20lbs above my pre pregnancy weight, so that may have something to do with it  :grr: :sigh: :eyeroll:

I feel your pain. I didnt even have a baby and I am 40ish pounds heavier than I was when I made lifetime on WW.  :-[
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 24, 2012, 08:24:05 PM
Holy crap...one cupcake is 11 points.  :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 24, 2012, 09:06:08 PM
I had the points for the pasta, so I had the linguine marinara. It was fine - not bad, but not spectacular. Skipped the breadsticks (:() and had a little bit of salad. Had a glass of wine, too. Ended up 5 points above for today altogether, so not too bad. Thanks, everyone - this thread really helped. Almost everyone else at the table got the capellini pomodoro, which you'd think would be fine, right? But thanks to y'all, I looked at the menu and nutrition info in advance, and knew that that "good" capellini?

IS TWENTY-ONE POINTS.

No, thanks! Linguine marinara for me!
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Post by: diablita on March 24, 2012, 10:16:46 PM
Oh my goodness, debba.  It's very rare that we go to Olive Garden, but when we do I order the cappelini pomodoro.  I had no idea!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 25, 2012, 01:00:18 AM
So, my friends got me this birthday cake...  and I don't even like cake.  And HOLY SHIT this stuff is good.  White chocolate raspberry, with what has to be cream cheese frosting. 

Good lord. 

We had a great buffet last night at the casino, and we definitely overate...  but we weren't hungry until 2 pm today, so I guess it could be worse.  :D 

Once my birthday stuff is done (the big day is actually Monday, but I appreciate all the wishes  :heartbeat:), I'm just going to saddle back up on the WW wagon.  I'm not counting points this weekend, or stressing about it.  It's a weird feeling to not have guilt associated with eating. 

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Post by: merigayle on March 25, 2012, 07:42:16 AM
mmmmm birthday cake..........

29 points?? omg!

MM- yep, no fun! much harder to take the weight off than put it on!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 25, 2012, 07:56:44 AM
Happy early birthday, Courtney!

I am down 2 pounds this mrning.   :rah:
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 25, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
Yay Diablita!

Good choices Debba!   That's what pays off.

Scale did not move this morning - lazy rainy day, went out for breakfast.  Only ate half, may feed the other half to the chickens.  Going to the Hunger Games this afternoon, may share a small popcorn with DH. 

Keep that Birthday mojo going Courtney!   Celebrate!
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Post by: debbatx on March 25, 2012, 06:14:12 PM
OMFG, I am SO tired right now. Good news - I'm capable of doing the next day in my C25K app. Bad news - I'm not capable of doing much more than that. We probably ran a total of 2 miles during the race this morning and then walked the rest. It was effing HOT out. Beautiful day, not a cloud in the sky, but HOT for a race that didn't start until 9. I was well-hydrated and my fingers still swelled up so much that it was hard to bend them.

I'm totally fine - no worries about dehydration or anything - had plenty of fluids before during and after the race.

Total time - 1 hr, 34 min. Oof. I'll take it, though.

It took so long to get a table at lunch that Reid didn't nap at all today. My in-laws drive me nuts, but God bless 'em for taking Reid to the park when we got home so DH and I could shower and nap.

And my post-race margaritas were fucking FABULOUS. As was my burger and fries. And even with all that food and alcohol in me, the scale is down over a pound this afternoon.
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Post by: diablita on March 25, 2012, 07:53:14 PM
yay debba!  what race? what distance?
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Post by: merigayle on March 25, 2012, 08:03:49 PM
good job on your race! my weekend has not been great eating wise, but i was down a pound today  :eyeroll: hoping to get some results tomorrow  :fiery:
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Post by: debbatx on March 25, 2012, 08:15:47 PM
Thanks! Diablita, it was the Capitol 10K here in Austin. Incredibly hilly course. :nono:
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Post by: diablita on March 25, 2012, 08:27:13 PM
It sounds like you did a great job considering.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 25, 2012, 08:44:46 PM
I'm happy with it. Of course I'd have been happier with more running, a better time, less heat, fewer people (it's a huge race), whatever. But when I woke up this morning, I was as ready as I was going to be and the rest of it was out of my control. And honestly, even in the years when I've been better-trained, I've still clocked in around 1:15, so really, an extra 15 minutes wasn't too shabby. I'll take it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 26, 2012, 08:30:24 AM
I've barely broken an hour for a 10K, even at my fittest, so 1:34 walk/running seems pretty darned good to me.   YAY Debba!

Still would like to lose 2 lbs by the end of the month.  Haven't lost any of my period bloat, so maybe that will help. 

Happy Birthday Courtney!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 08:35:50 AM
ok, good news bad news. Good news? all my blood work looks great! bad news? no answers on the weight issue. Next call will be to the midwife to discuss removal of the Mirena  :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 26, 2012, 09:06:24 AM
ok, good news bad news. Good news? all my blood work looks great! bad news? no answers on the weight issue. Next call will be to the midwife to discuss removal of the Mirena  :'(

I hate it when I know something's not right and the bloodwork looks fine.  I want evidence!  I want answers! I want an easy solution.

Tell DH to man up and get snipped. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 09:10:28 AM
I hate it when I know something's not right and the bloodwork looks fine.  I want evidence!  I want answers! I want an easy solution.

Tell DH to man up and get snipped.
doooode! I wish he would. We had a whole talk about it last week and he was like, you should have your tubes tied, it is easier. I was like, um, you know NOTHING about medical procedures because it is a very serious surgery, like the c section and a V is like an outpatient procedure. ARGH! MEN! I do not want to finally say no more kids, but i am 99% sure. Unless we won the lottery or something.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 26, 2012, 09:24:00 AM
Wait, what? It's EASIER for you to get your tubes tied?? WTF? Does he not know where your tubes even are?

I'm sorry that the blood work didn't provide answers. I'm like Mini - I hate that when I know something's off, but nothing shows up on the tests.

And Mini, thanks. I was pretty happy with the time, actually. I'm exhausted today - slept like crap last night. Scale was up a bit, but I think that's sore muscles and a bit of dehydration to go with my margaritas and cheeseburger/fries, so I'm not too worried. I'm also sunburned. Awesome.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on March 26, 2012, 09:48:23 AM
doooode! I wish he would. We had a whole talk about it last week and he was like, you should have your tubes tied, it is easier. I was like, um, you know NOTHING about medical procedures because it is a very serious surgery, like the c section and a V is like an outpatient procedure. ARGH! MEN! I do not want to finally say no more kids, but i am 99% sure. Unless we won the lottery or something.

Holy crap.  I would tell him it's not a problem b/c he is free to f* himself from now on.  That's really jerky, sorry Meri.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 11:46:31 AM
Holy crap.  I would tell him it's not a problem b/c he is free to f* himself from now on.  That's really jerky, sorry Meri.
well, to his credit, it would be easier FOR HIM!!!!!!!  :grr: I just do not think he really knows what he is talking about. off to call the midwife......
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 11:57:37 AM
midwife appt the 18th of April.  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 26, 2012, 11:57:45 AM
Um, he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, if he thinks abdominal surgery under general anesthesia is easier than an outpatient procedure with a local and a bag of frozen peas. And if he thinks it would be easier on him for YOU to have surgery, remind him that he'd have to handle all your usual chores while you were recovering.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 12:26:15 PM
Um, he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, if he thinks abdominal surgery under general anesthesia is easier than an outpatient procedure with a local and a bag of frozen peas. And if he thinks it would be easier on him for YOU to have surgery, remind him that he'd have to handle all your usual chores while you were recovering.
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Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 26, 2012, 12:33:51 PM
My cousin's husband got snipped a few years ago, when their youngest (a surprise) was a few years old. What he told us (me and DH) at the time was, "I've watched my wife give birth 3 times. The least I can do is sit around for a weekend with a bag of frozen peas on my lap."
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 12:47:38 PM
My cousin's husband got snipped a few years ago, when their youngest (a surprise) was a few years old. What he told us (me and DH) at the time was, "I've watched my wife give birth 3 times. The least I can do is sit around for a weekend with a bag of frozen peas on my lap."
yeppers.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 26, 2012, 12:58:39 PM
I think DH would do it after a second kid. Same logic - it's the least he can do. Plus, if he doesn't want more kids, then it makes sense.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 26, 2012, 01:22:34 PM
RA- i thought of you today while watching this week's Biggest loser on the TM, they went to Hawaii to show that they could lose weight on vacation :D


:sidesplit:
I have no idea if I have gained, but I feel like all I have been doing is eat! I get home in a few days and we shall see....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 26, 2012, 01:23:56 PM
Holy crap.  I would tell him it's not a problem b/c he is free to f* himself from now on.  That's really jerky, sorry Meri.

This. And point out that you did YOUR part- having the f'ing baby and carrying it for 9 months!!! It's the least he can do!  :argh: Sorry you didn't get more answers from the bloodwork. :(

Yay debba on the 10k! I meant to ask yesterday!

I am sooooo tired today. Got to bed later than planned (nearly 11) and was up at 4am this morning so I could do the Jillian workout and then drive to the gym near work, run and shower then come to work. I need a nap. I'm going to give blood in a few minutes, so that's why I ran early. Plus it's too f'ing hot after work now. 80s in March is too high. I dread summer. Anyway, I was happy that the scale is down another pound this week! I'm finally below where I started in the wlc (after somehow gaining 4lbs over 2 weeks of Christmas and Stuart visiting! I didn't eat THAT much!) I'm tweaking my calorie allowance to see if I can get by with less. I'm hungry in the evenings, though. Goal is to lose another 12lbs by Aug for the wedding and beach honeymoon!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 02:19:42 PM
:sidesplit:
I have no idea if I have gained, but I feel like all I have been doing is eat! I get home in a few days and we shall see....
you gotta see it now that you had your trip :D

LankyL-- (thats my new nickname for you). to be fair, i only carried the baby 8 months :D But seriously. I had a c section, OMG! it was horrible and traumatizing and long recovery. is a V even covered by insurance? they have that essure thing, where they implant the stuff in your tubes to block them, but yeah, i dunno about that.....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 26, 2012, 02:29:32 PM
I went seriously overboard on Sat night. Turned out one of Antag's friends was in the same town we were visiting (he was there for a conference and we were working on wedding stuff) so we went out with him and ended up at a bar. 4 beers and pizza severly screwed up my WW plans for the weekend. But I am back on track now even if I do have to eat out all week. We went to the grocery store last night and I will be eating fruit and instant oatmeal for breakfast each day (only thing I can make with only a coffee pot). 27 points is not a lot of points.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 02:49:19 PM
good luck with that hotel room cuisine! do they have a microwave anywhere? (lobby, etc?). I stayed at a hotel once and they brought a microwave and a little fridge to my room!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 26, 2012, 03:08:11 PM
I'd love to get 27 points. It would mean I'd lost a lot of weight. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 03:24:01 PM
i just spent most of nap time googling weight gain and mirena and am quite shocked at all the posts online about the Mirena. Any of you other gals with the Mirena may want to look into it.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 26, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
I'd love to get 27 points. It would mean I'd lost a lot of weight. :)

Well I am still a good 40+ from my goal.  :d

And it is next to impossible to eat out on it. Good luck finding anything in a restaurant that will fill you up for under 12 points.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 26, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
i just spent most of nap time googling weight gain and mirena and am quite shocked at all the posts online about the Mirena. Any of you other gals with the Mirena may want to look into it.  :sigh:

I got the mirena because I was convinced that pills contributed to my weight gain. Then I went off BC completely and nothing changed so I got the mirena. I honestly don't know...there is a lot of stories out there but not a lot of real data.

You could try the copper IUD though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 26, 2012, 03:37:55 PM
Oh, I know - restaurants are tough - see what I posted a few days ago about Olive Garden. I'm well over 40 pounds to goal, though. Well over. It's gonna be a while before I get to 27.  :-\
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 03:38:30 PM
I got the mirena because I was convinced that pills contributed to my weight gain. Then I went off BC completely and nothing changed so I got the mirena. I honestly don't know...there is a lot of stories out there but not a lot of real data.

You could try the copper IUD though.
well i am running out of reasons why i cannot lose weight. i would never go back on BCP either. The copper IUD (paraguard) is definitely an option. I had no problem losing weight before DD with the Mirena, but everyone tells me your body changes so much that it could now be an issue. I always had to work really hard to lose weight, but was able to lose it, but i have really struggled in the past year or so to just maintain my weight with a very clean and careful diet and lots of exercise.

I am hoping it will also help with other symptoms like low sex drive and abdominal pains. I felt my sex drive kinda plummet when i got it after DD, where as before DD i never had an issue with sex drive. The midwives chalked it up to being tired, but at almost 3 yo, i think that is not the only part of it. From Dr Google, it seems low sex drive, bloating, and abdominal pains are really common, and i know i have had cysts rupture. i have never been to a dr about it, but based on the symptoms and intense pain, i am pretty sure it has occurred.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 26, 2012, 03:43:10 PM
well i am running out of reasons why i cannot lose weight. i would never go back on BCP either. The copper IUD (paraguard) is definitely an option. I had no problem losing weight before DD with the Mirena, but everyone tells me your body changes so much that it could now be an issue. I always had to work really hard to lose weight, but was able to lose it, but i have really struggled in the past year or so to just maintain my weight with a very clean and careful diet and lots of exercise.

I am hoping it will also help with other symptoms like low sex drive and abdominal pains. I felt my sex drive kinda plummet when i got it after DD, where as before DD i never had an issue with sex drive. The midwives chalked it up to being tired, but at almost 3 yo, i think that is not the only part of it. From Dr Google, it seems low sex drive, bloating, and abdominal pains are really common, and i know i have had cysts rupture. i have never been to a dr about it, but based on the symptoms and intense pain, i am pretty sure it has occurred.

I have inquired in the CH about low sex drive before and heard suggestions that my testasterone may be low. Just something to ask about.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 03:50:41 PM
I have inquired in the CH about low sex drive before and heard suggestions that my testasterone may be low. Just something to ask about.
another blood test  :panic:


:D something else to consider!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 26, 2012, 04:43:17 PM
Sorry the blood work didn't yield answers for you Meri.

Eating out is hard on WW but doable if you are picky about where you go.
I have friends that love chain restaurants which I avoid just because I don't really care for them, and those can be deadly, luckily they happily go to Ruby Tuesday's and I find it pretty easy there to get something WW friendly. You have your choice of sides there which helps too. Italian is always going to be tough, they give you way more then a cup of pasta and all that cheese on everything. Best though if you try to limit the eating out.

And remember, they just changed the plan in January. 29 used to be the lowest for anyone. They say you can still use that if you want. If 27 is too hard for you to accomplish ease up on yourself and go back to the 29.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2012, 07:46:37 PM
i made Cauliflower fried "rice" for dinner, where you take a head of cauliflower chopped and then pulse in a food processor until it looks like rice. I sauteed some onion, mushroom, pepper, carrots and peas and added the cauliflower rice and cooked for about 10 minutes and added in some sauteed tofu. I seasoned it with some teriyaki (no HFCS, hard to find!) and soy sauce and garlic and ginger.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: leggova on March 26, 2012, 08:43:54 PM
I think that most (not all) reported weight gain being caused by the pill is correlation not causation.

Single = easy to control your food intact.
Long term relationship = difficult to control your food intake.

Meri...are you still breastfeeding?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 26, 2012, 08:45:30 PM
debba - great job on the 10K !!
Meri - I did a lot of reading before getting my Mirena out.  I paid $900 out of pocket to get the damn thing put in so was a little annoyed that I didn't get my full money's worth.  BUT I did get back my libido, lost weight, and my acne that had gotten way worse has cleared up some.  I'm on other meds that kill the libido again, but after reading so much negative comments about the mirena I was happy to get it out and felt better that same day.  The few weeks afterwards because of the TOM were tough, but now that I'm on no hormones it is so much better.  Just my experience.   There *must* be vasectomy surgeries on youtube....have a look and do it when the DH is asleep.   :>D:  (Only half joking)


The kids did not nap AT ALL today.   :skep:  We did however make them sit in their cribs for awhile to at least try...lots of giggles & mayhem instead of sleeping.  I got a 4.7 mile run in, but no other exercises.   :-\   Luckily the kids crashed very quickly tonight.  Food has been uninspiring lately. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 26, 2012, 10:23:34 PM
I am trembling and practically in tears at the thought of the "how much do you need to work out to eat whatever you want" thread.  It's so frustrating that there is no amount of exercise that will let me not pay attention to every scrap of food that goes into my mouth.  As much as I find it satisfying to eat well and avoid junk, it is always a struggle not to have that extra slice of bread.  I know if I have it the scale will reflect it.   It has been a struggle all my life and it will be a struggle every day to avoid not just putting on a few pounds, but becoming obese. 

I can't even imagine eating whatever I want without paying for it, because I have paid for it, over and over.  I am angry that it's something that I want, even if I know the price. 

I'm going to put myself to sleep reminding myself that health and fitness are what I want, not eating too much food.  I hope I will believe it. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 26, 2012, 10:41:13 PM
I am trembling and practically in tears at the thought of the "how much do you need to work out to eat whatever you want" thread.  It's so frustrating that there is no amount of exercise that will let me not pay attention to every scrap of food that goes into my mouth.  As much as I find it satisfying to eat well and avoid junk, it is always a struggle not to have that extra slice of bread.  I know if I have it the scale will reflect it.   It has been a struggle all my life and it will be a struggle every day to avoid not just putting on a few pounds, but becoming obese. 

I can't even imagine eating whatever I want without paying for it, because I have paid for it, over and over.  I am angry that it's something that I want, even if I know the price. 

I'm going to put myself to sleep reminding myself that health and fitness are what I want, not eating too much food.  I hope I will believe it. 



 :hug:

I understand. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 26, 2012, 11:06:26 PM
I could not even read the thread.....I am the same as you mini
Merigayle, Imentioned before how much I loved my copper iud...it worked great and it only took a few months for my periods to mellow out. I loved loved loved it, and if I needed bc now that would be my one and only choice.


Tomorrow is our last day here...we check out at 11am and our flight leaves at 9pm so we will head to the aquarium and IO needle for a hike in e afternoon.  We have been surfing, swimming and or snorkeling everyday...a good portion of that right off our front porch.  I have been pretty good about food but not dilligent. It is the BEER that is killing me....but there is something about sitting on the lanai with a beer.

I am looking forward to getting home..even with the rain. I miss my dogs and my routine. How weird is that?  But all n all the weather, my head cold and the curse of Laurie's vacation have been conquered!


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 26, 2012, 11:09:37 PM
Me too.  There has never been a day in my adult life during which I didn't think about every bite of food, never a day when I haven't been trying to lose some weight, never a day when I haven't felt heavier or squishier than I want to.   I usually do not like to tell people in my life how much I exercise because I am afraid that they won't believe me, because I do not think the way I look really reflects how hard I work and how I struggle with food.    I hope the truth is that my body image is just quite distorted, which is a strange thing to say, but it would mean that others actually view me as fit and in good shape regardless of how squishy my midsection feels to me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on March 26, 2012, 11:28:42 PM
I am sorry, guys. I didn't mean for that thread to go that way at all.

I was thinking it was going to be more of a "this is the magical point where I can eat what I want" but it just made you feel bad.

It sounds magical to me because there's no realistic way I'd ever exercise more than an hour a day. Maybe it doesn't really exist.

Anyway, I'll remove the thread. It was a stupid idea and I didn't mean to make you feel horrible.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 27, 2012, 12:06:30 AM
I was so fucking frustrated tonight. Antag really wanted to go to Chick Fil A because he loves it and we don't have one where we live. So we look up points ahead of time and I decide that I can go and be ok if I order a grilled chicken sandwich, side salad, and a large fruit cup (I was starving and I only had 12 points left). So we get there and it is packed with little kids and there is a huge line but we are already there so we wait forever to order (like 15 minutes) and then when we get up there I was informed that they are out of side salads so I get frustrated but still order my sandwich and fruit. Then they bring it and they didnt have any large fruit cups so they bring me 2 small ones...whatever...except I open it and the fruit is all old and mashed and rotten looking so all I got for dinner was the damn sandwich...I was so pissed off. And of course I got to watch Antag eat a big ole thing of nuggets and fries. Gah!

So then we went and had frozen yogurt.  :d I did stick with a mini though but I probably still went over.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 27, 2012, 12:08:14 AM
I am sorry, guys. I didn't mean for that thread to go that way at all.

I was thinking it was going to be more of a "this is the magical point where I can eat what I want" but it just made you feel bad.

It sounds magical to me because there's no realistic way I'd ever exercise more than an hour a day. Maybe it doesn't really exist.

Anyway, I'll remove the thread. It was a stupid idea and I didn't mean to make you feel horrible.
don't remove it Bonita! It wasn't intentional at all.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 27, 2012, 12:12:02 AM
I am sorry, guys. I didn't mean for that thread to go that way at all.

I was thinking it was going to be more of a "this is the magical point where I can eat what I want" but it just made you feel bad.

It sounds magical to me because there's no realistic way I'd ever exercise more than an hour a day. Maybe it doesn't really exist.

Anyway, I'll remove the thread. It was a stupid idea and I didn't mean to make you feel horrible.

It isn't your fault but it is a hot button issue for me and apparently others.

Even Antag doesn't beleive how much I used to work out in order to maintain my weight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on March 27, 2012, 12:31:17 AM
I went camping this weekend, so plenty of hiking and other physical activity.  I haven't camped in probably 12 -14 years!   Fun!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 27, 2012, 12:53:26 AM
I went camping this weekend, so plenty of hiking and other physical activity.  I haven't camped in probably 12 -14 years!   Fun!
did you take the kids?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 27, 2012, 07:45:40 AM
i am breastfeeding, but so minimally, and plan on weaning next week (since i am going away for 4 days), but i was breastfeeding 10+ times a day and 10lbs lighter last year. THere are days where she nurses for 5 minutes tops, total and a couple days iwth out nursing at all.

Bolloxd-- thank you for your insight. i "only" paid $500 for mine :D

Mouse- yep, the paraguard is probably going to be the next step. Tried to talk about the big V last night with DH and he totally freaked out. I wanted to be like, are you for real?????!?!?!??!?! Have you seen the Essure thing? i would contemplate that in the future, but not now.

I have not seen this thread but will go look. Even when i was running 75 mpw, i had to watch what i ate and everyone was like, wow you run so much, you must be able to eat anything you want, NO WAY  :fiery: Like Caito, i think about food 24/7, even when not dieting.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 27, 2012, 07:46:13 AM
is the thread gone?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on March 27, 2012, 08:20:19 AM
Yeah, I took it down. I doubt anybody will miss it but us anyway.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 27, 2012, 08:39:54 AM
I am sorry, guys. I didn't mean for that thread to go that way at all.

I was thinking it was going to be more of a "this is the magical point where I can eat what I want" but it just made you feel bad.

It sounds magical to me because there's no realistic way I'd ever exercise more than an hour a day. Maybe it doesn't really exist.

Anyway, I'll remove the thread. It was a stupid idea and I didn't mean to make you feel horrible.

I didn't blame you at all.  And I didn't mean for the thread to be removed - that's why I vented over here and restrained myself over there.    It wasn't a stupid idea.  I think we all have the dream that if we work out enough we can eat all those things we deny ourselves.  And some people have very high metabolisms and low appetites and can eat to satiety. 

Sorry I over-reacted.  It's just a really hot button for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on March 27, 2012, 09:05:29 AM
did you take the kids?

Nope.  They weren't allowed on the trails where we were going.  I'd like to take them camping in the future, but Mia can't hike very far, so not sure how feasible that idea is.  They stayed with friends who has a dog they love and a big backyard.  They were both pooped when I got home.   :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on March 27, 2012, 09:09:08 AM
I didn't blame you at all.  And I didn't mean for the thread to be removed - that's why I vented over here and restrained myself over there.    It wasn't a stupid idea.  I think we all have the dream that if we work out enough we can eat all those things we deny ourselves.  And some people have very high metabolisms and low appetites and can eat to satiety. 

Sorry I over-reacted.  It's just a really hot button for me.

It's okay. I understand.

Hugs, but no outrage.

:)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 27, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
i cannot even imagine a world where i can eat whatever i want without recourse (like weight gain). It would be a lovely existence.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on March 27, 2012, 09:15:31 AM
i cannot even imagine a world where i can eat whatever i want without recourse (like weight gain). It would be a lovely existence.

One of the great things about being a kid.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 27, 2012, 09:41:15 AM
Yeah, Reid can eat adult-size portions at times and the kid has been 30 pounds for at least 6 months, with almost no fluctuation. It's astounding.

I try not to obsess about what's going in my mouth, but if I don't *think* in advance about what I'm going to eat, I will inevitably make a bad decision and end up gaining. That's how I got to this point.

And frankly, I have 70ish pounds to lose, so I'm still very much in the stage of "think about what you're doing when you eat." Good habits are developing, but I'm not safely there yet. It's why I'm really focused on tracking everything I'm eating right now - I know what I should be eating, but having to write it all down and actually see what's happening with my WW points has really opened my eyes.

I don't know that there will ever be a point where I can work out for an hour a day and eat whatever I want. Because "whatever I want," right now, means ice cream and cookies and junk. Giving all that up for Lent has really helped, though. I don't seem to crave it anymore.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 27, 2012, 10:49:03 AM
One of the great things about being a kid.

Unless you were a fat kid.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 27, 2012, 10:54:30 AM
One of the great things about being a kid.

Not for all of us, unfortunately.  BUT there is always a bright side: since I've had to watch my weight my entire life, nothing has changed.  I have many friends who were super thin as children and were shocked to see this change at age 30 or 40.  not me
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 27, 2012, 10:56:26 AM
I really struggle with figuring out how much food I actually *need* to sustain all the exercise.  Because when you're doing long runs and lifting weights on a regular basis, you get hungry.   It's hard to figure out the balance of proper fueling and weight loss. 

There's also the trap of feeling like you "earned" some extra calories.   A 5 mile  run = roughly 500 calories.    Then you splurge on an ice cream cone or pizza or a burger or some beers and zap, it's gone.     I wish the effort it took to consume those splurge calories equaled the effort it takes to burn them!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 27, 2012, 10:58:26 AM
Not for all of us, unfortunately.  BUT there is always a bright side: since I've had to watch my weight my entire life, nothing has changed.  I have many friends who were super thin as children and were shocked to see this change at age 30 or 40.  not me

I know!   My inner bitch is smugly satisfied now that all my naturally skinny friends from high school and college who never exercise or pay close attention to nutrition are suddenly gaining weight and I'm finally the fit one.   I guess I am glad that I learned the tough lesson earlier than later.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on March 27, 2012, 11:22:49 AM

There's also the trap of feeling like you "earned" some extra calories.   A 5 mile  run = roughly 500 calories.    Then you splurge on an ice cream cone or pizza or a burger or some beers and zap, it's gone.     I wish the effort it took to consume those splurge calories equaled the effort it takes to burn them!

No kidding. I remember somebody (makeda maybe?) posted once about how long it took to eat a fast food burger. She timed it, and it was roughly 90 seconds. Gah!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on March 27, 2012, 11:24:36 AM
Not for all of us, unfortunately.  BUT there is always a bright side: since I've had to watch my weight my entire life, nothing has changed.  I have many friends who were super thin as children and were shocked to see this change at age 30 or 40.  not me

Well, I was thinking of my four year old, who will happily eat as much ice cream that fits. It's not at all on her radar whether or not it's going to have negative repercussions, eating ice cream at that age is an exercise in pure joy for her. Hopefully most preschoolers aren't worrying about the impact a dessert is going to have on them. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 27, 2012, 11:27:34 AM
Christ, I hate my boss and the fucking drama queens in my department. They make me want to eat. I'm not going to, they just make me want to.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 27, 2012, 11:30:30 AM
Well, I was thinking of my four year old, who will happily eat as much ice cream that fits. It's not at all on her radar whether or not it's going to have negative repercussions, eating ice cream at that age is an exercise in pure joy for her. Hopefully most preschoolers aren't worrying about the impact a dessert is going to have on them. :(

Yeah.  That is awesome.   And she is young enough that food likely does not have the same emotional connection that it has with some teens/adults.   In one of the many books I've read about this sort of thing they discusssed an experiement with pre-schoolers.   They found that kids that young tend to intuitively balance out their calories for the day.   If the kids were served an extra cookie or two, later on in the day they ate less of something else.   I wish I could remember more details about that right now.   Their bodies just knew when to stop wanting more food because they'd had enough.  No will power required!
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Post by: debbatx on March 27, 2012, 11:32:41 AM
Yeah, it's pretty amazing to watch Reid. If he's hungry, he chows down. If he's not as hungry, eh, whatever, he has no qualms leaving things on his plate. I wish!
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Post by: Ice Cream on March 27, 2012, 11:39:18 AM
   A 5 mile  run = roughly 500 calories.   

My Garmin calculates 5 miles as 450 calories.  If you calculate that you are probably substituting light activity around the house that would burn about 120 calories by the run, you are actually left with a net surplus of 380 (or on my case 330).  Sad, I know.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 27, 2012, 12:32:48 PM
Most weekend days I am extremely active. Friday hiked up a pretty steep hill for about an hour. Among other shorter hikes. Saturday, hiked 13.1 miles with a lot of steep terrain carrying a pack for 8 hours. Drank about 3 liters, ate a banana and a largish healthy sandwich, and orange. I used 19 or my weekly allowance of 49 Weekly points that day, mostly on alcohol in a restaurant after. Sunday, also hiked for about 1.5 hours, nothing like Saturday. Stayed close to my PP. My scale says I am up. :(
Other weekends I might bike both days for 2-4 hours and hike too. Doesn't matter that I am hungry from all that exercise, still gotta watch big time if I want to lose.

Bad new is ladies, it doesn't get better. It gets even worse when you hit menopause. I think the exercise factor only works for people who have never done any. Our bodies have learned to deal with whatever we throw at them. But in my dotage I have finally come to accept this and that I have to not give up, there will be good days choice wise and not so good days but I will keep at it. And not beat myself up over it. Because that does absolutely no good at all. I am trying to focus on the good choices I make.
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 27, 2012, 12:52:35 PM
Most weekend days I am extremely active. Friday hiked up a pretty steep hill for about an hour. Among other shorter hikes. Saturday, hiked 13.1 miles with a lot of steep terrain carrying a pack for 8 hours. Drank about 3 liters, ate a banana and a largish healthy sandwich, and orange. I used 19 or my weekly allowance of 49 Weekly points that day, mostly on alcohol in a restaurant after. Sunday, also hiked for about 1.5 hours, nothing like Saturday. Stayed close to my PP. My scale says I am up. :(
Other weekends I might bike both days for 2-4 hours and hike too. Doesn't matter that I am hungry from all that exercise, still gotta watch big time if I want to lose.

Bad new is ladies, it doesn't get better. It gets even worse when you hit menopause. I think the exercise factor only works for people who have never done any. Our bodies have learned to deal with whatever we throw at them. But in my dotage I have finally come to accept this and that I have to not give up, there will be good days choice wise and not so good days but I will keep at it. And not beat myself up over it. Because that does absolutely no good at all. I am trying to focus on the good choices I make.

Yes, I think people who are transitioning from low activity levels to high activity levels see a big boost in their metabolisms and see a drop in pounds without changing intake. 

But I think for me the best solution is re-framing: I want to eat healthily and have fun.  That's my priority. 
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Post by: merigayle on March 27, 2012, 01:10:40 PM
i agree, exercise does not seem to be the key for me. But when i went from not exercising to exercising ages ago, i did lose weight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 27, 2012, 01:16:40 PM
Welp, today is our last day...we fly out tonite.  Right now I am sitting on the Lanai sipping my coffee and enjoying the surf. We check out later , return our gear and then I think we will head to the aquarium and then a walk to IO Needle before heading to the airport.
It has been a lovely vacation, super relaxing.  Molokini crater was awesome, but even though we were the only boat there that early I wasn't crazy about the number of people on our boat. I am just not social. I want it all to myself!

I am curious as to what I will weigh in at when I get home.  I ate whatever I felt like, which wasn't horrible in of itself, since I like goo healthy foods, but the beer! I usually shy away from beer because of the calories, and most days here I had at least 2. 

I miss our boys, but other than that I could stay here.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 27, 2012, 01:20:01 PM
I know!   My inner bitch is smugly satisfied now that all my naturally skinny friends from high school and college who never exercise or pay close attention to nutrition are suddenly gaining weight and I'm finally the fit one.   I guess I am glad that I learned the tough lesson earlier than later.


Heh.  I can relate to this.  While I'm not the fit looking one in any of my groups, I know that despite my chub, I'm way fitter than most of them.  And in HS (super small) all my friends were jocks.  I do take satisfaction in a couple of them being all "You run?" when I know they don't exercise at all.  I'm sure that makes me a class A bitch, but they were shitty to me about my lack of athletic talents back in the day. 

Ok, so this really relates to two girls.  I should cut them out of my life, their toxic behavior still bothers me, clearly.  If one more of them acts surprised that I run or bike, I'll probably flip out on them!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on March 27, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
Life is too short for toxic people Courtney, dump them.

And even though exercise is not helping me lose, or kept me from gaining I would not stop doing it.
I took Monday and Tuesday off because I wrenched a knee on the hike Sunday and I feel like a total slug.
It's just something I do, can't imagine not doing it or understand how people can not do it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 27, 2012, 03:20:13 PM
Heh.  I can relate to this.  While I'm not the fit looking one in any of my groups, I know that despite my chub, I'm way fitter than most of them.  And in HS (super small) all my friends were jocks.  I do take satisfaction in a couple of them being all "You run?" when I know they don't exercise at all.  I'm sure that makes me a class A bitch, but they were shitty to me about my lack of athletic talents back in the day. 

Ok, so this really relates to two girls.  I should cut them out of my life, their toxic behavior still bothers me, clearly.  If one more of them acts surprised that I run or bike, I'll probably flip out on them!

Yeah,  underneath all my flab is someone who is actually pretty damn fit. My trainer does not take it easy on me, by far. He had us doing fitness tests a couple of years ago, and was posting all our results on the wall in the section of the gym where he trains us. Some of his other clients - mostly the men - were PISSED when my numbers got posted and I beat them. Then they were abjectly humiliated to find out I was 7 months pregnant at the time.

Unfortunately, there's still an awful lot of flab on top of all that fit. Dammit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 27, 2012, 03:26:06 PM

And even though exercise is not helping me lose, or kept me from gaining I would not stop doing it.

It's just something I do, can't imagine not doing it or understand how people can not do it.

I totally agree.  I avoided/feared exercise until I was about 22.  But then it became one of my favorite activities of all time and I cannot relate at all to my former self and habits.  I do not understand why I didn't "get it" before.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 27, 2012, 03:56:18 PM
nothing was better than going to my 10 year reunion and the two popular identical twins were FAT. not just a little heavy set, but huge. I giggled on the inside because if they saw themselves they would have made fun of themselves and been mean.
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Post by: BonitaApplebum on March 27, 2012, 04:18:02 PM
nothing was better than going to my 10 year reunion and the two popular identical twins were FAT. not just a little heavy set, but huge. I giggled on the inside because if they saw themselves they would have made fun of themselves and been mean.

A lot of people snickered at our prom queen at our 10th reunion, because she was kinda chubby looking.

She'd had a baby a few weeks earlier. I'm guessing karma bit a lot of the snickering women in the butt when they had kids themselves and realized it ain't so easy dropping that baby weight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 27, 2012, 05:22:52 PM
A lot of people snickered at our prom queen at our 10th reunion, because she was kinda chubby looking.

She'd had a baby a few weeks earlier. I'm guessing karma bit a lot of the snickering women in the butt when they had kids themselves and realized it ain't so easy dropping that baby weight.
karma is a bitch. those twins were just so nasty in high school. there was no baby involved though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 27, 2012, 07:42:30 PM
you wanna know how my running partner lost 20lbs since the New Year? No ice cream after dinner and only one girl scout cookie at a time. life is just not fair.  :sigh: i have not had a girl scout cookie in, i cannot remember.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 27, 2012, 08:07:56 PM
you wanna know how my running partner lost 20lbs since the New Year? No ice cream after dinner and only one girl scout cookie at a time. life is just not fair.  :sigh: i have not had a girl scout cookie in, i cannot remember.

Yeah, I always hate those "helpful" articles with tips like "cut back on soda!" or whatever. I never drink soda!  :fiery: I basically have very few foods I could change- maybe eat less pasta? But I already eat the most healthy version of most everything I eat!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 27, 2012, 08:09:40 PM
Finished with dinner and I'm still hungry.  DFW to the rescue. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 27, 2012, 08:11:21 PM
Yeah, I always hate those "helpful" articles with tips like "cut back on soda!" or whatever. I never drink soda!  :fiery: I basically have very few foods I could change- maybe eat less pasta? But I already eat the most healthy version of most everything I eat!

 I know!    :argh:    Once you get to a certain point, there just aren't any more little tricks or substitutions.   I need a lot more discipline about portion sizes I guess.  And okay, booze...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 27, 2012, 08:21:14 PM
I know!    :argh:    Once you get to a certain point, there just aren't any more little tricks or substitutions.   I need a lot more discipline about portion sizes I guess.  And okay, booze...
Yeah, I always hate those "helpful" articles with tips like "cut back on soda!" or whatever. I never drink soda!  :fiery: I basically have very few foods I could change- maybe eat less pasta? But I already eat the most healthy version of most everything I eat!

yep yep yep. but no pasta or booze here!!!! well. pasta very rarely, but maybe after a 20 mile run or before  a big race.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 27, 2012, 10:06:47 PM
You'd think that, having given up binges for Lent, I'd be down a ton of weight. I mean, I gave up soda, Reeses's mini cups, skittles, whatchamacalits, doritos, reese's pieces, heath bars... pretty much every candy bar imaginable. And y'all, when I say binges, I mean it. Gave them up for Lent. I've had one dessert on date night with DH, one piece of birthday cake for a kid's birthday, and will do something similar this week for DH's birthday and another kid's birthday.

Yeah. I've dropped 2 pounds. Thanks, Jesus!
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 28, 2012, 01:07:48 AM
I had a bit of thai curry (2 bites of chicken and some of the sauce), some steamed veggies and about 1/4 cup of rice. I have no idea how many points thai curry is but I cannot imagine I went over the 12 points I had left. I also ran 5 miles. They have really awesome treadmills at this hotel. They have a ton of features (you can choose if you look at the normal screen, a track, a mountain, or a 5K loop, it has a virtual personal trainer, and attached TVs). I want this treadmill at home! For lunch I was really careful and had panera veggie soup and a garden salad. I sure hope I manage not to gain weight this week.
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Post by: merigayle on March 28, 2012, 07:39:50 AM
you are doing well, MM. Curries are usually made with coconut milk, which is not as bad as like Indian food which is often made with heavy cream, clarified butter, etc. eating out is so hard.

i have not weighed myself today. I have a race this weekend, and once i recover, back to the grind. I will eat what i want afterwards, but half the time i am so nauseous that that plan is not always fun, haha.
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Post by: MiniDriver on March 28, 2012, 08:32:37 AM
You'd think that, having given up binges for Lent, I'd be down a ton of weight. I mean, I gave up soda, Reeses's mini cups, skittles, whatchamacalits, doritos, reese's pieces, heath bars... pretty much every candy bar imaginable. And y'all, when I say binges, I mean it. Gave them up for Lent. I've had one dessert on date night with DH, one piece of birthday cake for a kid's birthday, and will do something similar this week for DH's birthday and another kid's birthday.

Yeah. I've dropped 2 pounds. Thanks, Jesus!

{{Debba}}  You're living right, that's what counts and what will eventually bring the rest of the weight off.  I keep telling myself that. 

YAY MM! 

After posting last night, I brushed my teeth to convince myself that eating was over for the day.  It worked, thank  :fsm:. 
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Post by: caito on March 28, 2012, 09:44:47 AM
What race, Meri?
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Post by: debbatx on March 28, 2012, 09:53:32 AM
Thanks, Mini. Psychologically I feel better - I don't spend half the day hating myself for binging, but really, you'd think I'd have dropped a bit more. :eyeroll:

We went out for DH's birthday last night, but I only had a spinach salad with grilled chicken and avocado, and I skipped most of the walnuts. Scale was down a bit this morning - I'll take it. Likely BBQ tonight - the sides are the killer there. We'll see how it goes.

I've also managed to refrain from smacking my FIL, which is truly a miracle.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 28, 2012, 10:24:30 AM
So I am in this all day long stats seminar all week. I looked around yesterday and for some reason get the need to conclude that I am the biggest person in the room. I am but why do I care? Why do I do this to myself?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 28, 2012, 10:26:29 AM
 :hug: I'd do the same thing, MM, and not understand why, either. I mean, we're not competing with them, so why do we do that to ourselves? I honestly don't understand, but I do it, too.
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Post by: merigayle on March 28, 2012, 10:38:39 AM
 :hug: MM

It is the Umstead 100, my 5th Umstead100, so i gotta finish to get my 500 milestone at this race.

I stopped at Sports Authority on my way into work to see if there were any cute clothes (i got the cutest yoga top that i could wear to work!!!) and boy oh boy does my ass look HUGE and cottage cheesy in those mirrors. I never go shopping, let alone look at my whole, mostly naked, body in the mirror. I look much better clothed :D

And my last bloodtest, the Vit D test came back great.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 28, 2012, 10:53:46 AM
So I am in this all day long stats seminar all week. I looked around yesterday and for some reason get the need to conclude that I am the biggest person in the room. I am but why do I care? Why do I do this to myself?

I do this all the time.  I am constantly evaluating and comparing.  Stop it!  You're doing great, and are on track to be at your target well before the wedding. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 28, 2012, 11:02:36 AM
I just had a yummy room service veggie (spinach, mushroom, and tomato) and egg white fritatta for breakfast. It sure beats the instant oatmeal I had the last 2 days.
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Post by: debbatx on March 28, 2012, 11:08:05 AM
That sounds really good!
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Post by: merigayle on March 28, 2012, 11:28:24 AM
I just had a yummy room service veggie (spinach, mushroom, and tomato) and egg white fritatta for breakfast. It sure beats the instant oatmeal I had the last 2 days.

when we got to Vegas for Badwater last year i was so starving beyond belief that i ordered, at the westin, an egg white omelette. it was the most delicious thing i had ever eaten at that moment and time and worth every penny of the $27 :D :D :D DH was so upset with how much it cost, but i would have paid twice that at the moment :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 28, 2012, 12:06:43 PM
Speaking of comparing yourself, one of my Sparkfriends just announced that she's lost 200 pounds - and is still heavier than I ever was.  Sobering to think when we're beating ourselves up for being fat, there are plenty of people out there who are working hard, tracking every scrap of food that goes into their mouths, getting regular exercise and have been doing so for years -- and are still morbidly obese. 

I really need to remember that when I'm annoyed at myself for having more cheese than I should, or irritated the scale isn't moving fast enough. 
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Post by: debbatx on March 28, 2012, 12:08:34 PM
That's a really good reminder, Mini - thanks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 28, 2012, 12:37:29 PM
So I am in this all day long stats seminar all week. I looked around yesterday and for some reason get the need to conclude that I am the biggest person in the room. I am but why do I care? Why do I do this to myself?

I do the same thing.  It's out of control right now.  I need to make an appointment with my therapist pronto.  I wish I had advice for you. 
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Post by: Courtney on March 28, 2012, 12:38:43 PM
Meri, Badwater is this weekend, right?  Is that the race? 
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Post by: merigayle on March 28, 2012, 12:50:31 PM
Meri, Badwater is this weekend, right?  Is that the race?
oh no! that is in July!!!! duh, only going to run Death Valley in July! Umstead 100 is this weekend :D
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Post by: Courtney on March 28, 2012, 12:53:39 PM
oh no! that is in July!!!! duh, only going to run Death Valley in July! Umstead 100 is this weekend :D
D'oh!  I knew it was something big and long!! 



that's what she said. 
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Post by: merigayle on March 28, 2012, 01:03:42 PM
D'oh!  I knew it was something big and long!! 



that's what she said. 
:D

and gingerbread and ecodork are going to come hang out with me  :preen:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on March 28, 2012, 01:43:28 PM
I do the same thing.  It's out of control right now.  I need to make an appointment with my therapist pronto.  I wish I had advice for you. 

I am in the same position.

The funny thing is I went to the treadmill last night to run and outlasted everyone else who came into the gym (5 people) so I know I am not a lazy bum.
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Post by: teetime on March 28, 2012, 01:55:25 PM
I do the same thing.  It's out of control right now.  I need to make an appointment with my therapist pronto.  I wish I had advice for you. 

I think it helps to remember that so many people around you are doing the same thing just with different comparisons.  Right now I look at people and think ... I bet they are really fertile.  Why can they be so fertile and not me?  Or I read about Meri and think, she can run 100 miles and still get a period?!  That is crazy, go her, I want that to be me!  Everyone you are looking at has their own struggles ... no better or worse than your own.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 28, 2012, 02:50:58 PM
I think it helps to remember that so many people around you are doing the same thing just with different comparisons.  Right now I look at people and think ... I bet they are really fertile.  Why can they be so fertile and not me?  Or I read about Meri and think, she can run 100 miles and still get a period?!  That is crazy, go her, I want that to be me!  Everyone you are looking at has their own struggles ... no better or worse than your own.
truth? i had to gain 9lbs before getting pregnant to get a period and i was not underweight. I was 135lbs prior to gaining the 9lbs. But i was running 75mpw.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 28, 2012, 03:02:39 PM
I think it helps to remember that so many people around you are doing the same thing just with different comparisons.  Right now I look at people and think ... I bet they are really fertile.  Why can they be so fertile and not me?  Or I read about Meri and think, she can run 100 miles and still get a period?!  That is crazy, go her, I want that to be me!  Everyone you are looking at has their own struggles ... no better or worse than your own.

I totally understand.  :)  I wasn't trying to make my crappy thought processes seem worse than anyone else's.  It's definitely not a competition! 

 :hug: 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 28, 2012, 03:33:36 PM
I totally understand.  :)  I wasn't trying to make my crappy thought processes seem worse than anyone else's.  It's definitely not a competition! 

 :hug: 

I totally have a worse case of body dysmorphia!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 28, 2012, 03:58:11 PM
I totally have a worse case of body dysmorphia!

:D  Wanna fight about it? 
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Post by: merigayle on March 28, 2012, 04:25:24 PM
DH is always telling me i have bad body dysmorphic syndrome.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on March 28, 2012, 04:45:32 PM
truth? i had to gain 9lbs before getting pregnant to get a period and i was not underweight. I was 135lbs prior to gaining the 9lbs. But i was running 75mpw.

Oh, I really didn't mean to single you out.  And see, this is a perfect example because I made an assumption (based on your BC concerns) and was wrong.  I think that's what happens most of the time when we look around and wonder why we aren't more like the people around us (and assume they have it better or are somehow better).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 28, 2012, 05:02:35 PM
I saw a thing that said Comparison is the thief of joy...  I might have mentioned it before.  But it's so true.  Comparison rarely does any of us any good :) 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 28, 2012, 05:11:39 PM
Oh, I really didn't mean to single you out.  And see, this is a perfect example because I made an assumption (based on your BC concerns) and was wrong.  I think that's what happens most of the time when we look around and wonder why we aren't more like the people around us (and assume they have it better or are somehow better).
oh i did not feel singled out at all! :)

i am always comparing myself to others, especially at races. There was always one woman who was always at races i did who was the "fat" one, well, she lost a boatload of weight the past two years and is no longer fat. Will there be someone heavier than me there? And I know i am not heavy, but in the context of runner women, i feel HUGE, besides that i am tall, and they are all petite little things.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 28, 2012, 10:12:47 PM
BBQ for dinner tonight. Not great, points-wise, but I tracked it all and I'm okay for the week, overall.
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Post by: Bolloxd on March 28, 2012, 10:17:46 PM
Yes, I do the comparing thing too about various things.  It is hard to just ignore that inner chatter sometimes. 

The scale has started creeping back up on me, only by a few pounds, but I know I've not been careful with my snacking like I should be.  I need to slow down on the evening snacks again.  Ugh.  I did get in a run today, 4.7 miles plus my push-ups.  Been moody, according to DH, so I guess the PMS is starting to kick in just for the weekend.   :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 29, 2012, 10:24:25 AM
Scale was up about a pound this morning, so I'm sucking back DFW like my life depends on it. I always forget how much sodium there is in stuff like BBQ - I mean, duh, that's practically what makes it BBQ, but I dunno, I just.... don't think about it when I'm face first in brisket.

Likely Mexican food tonight. Awesome.  :grr: Off to check the menu to see what I can get.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 29, 2012, 10:43:53 AM
I had mexican and beers last night (the whole class had a dinner at the hosting professors house). Eeek.
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Post by: debbatx on March 29, 2012, 11:11:58 AM
I'm thinking chicken tacos with charro beans on the side.
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 29, 2012, 11:14:38 AM
I had mexican and beers last night (the whole class had a dinner at the hosting professors house). Eeek.

Yeah, I had mexican last night, too! And a margarita (that was not good enough to be worth the calories. Second time this week!) It was a veggie quesadilla with poblano cole slaw. Not terrible at least. But still.. no running or Jillian DVD yesterday due to the knee... I have salad for lunch! I tried to get up for Jillian today but was just too tired. We got home at 10pm which is too late for me. Tonight I get to go home and pack for Stuart's visit (we're staying in a hotel while he's here since I'm living at home for the time being...) 34 hours to go (or so!!!) :D

Re: comparisons- I definitely do it. My "thing" is thighs and butt. I'm always looking and trying to figure out if my butt/thighs are bigger or smaller.. :( But then I try to remind myself to be grateful for my strong legs and glutes to carry me through runs!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 29, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
Finally made it home yesterday after being stuck at SFO for 6 hours due to cancelled and delayed flights. We got settled in, cleaned up and napped. I had a horrible headache...combination of too much airplane, no sleep (we were up for 36 hours by the time we got home) and no morning latte. (I was afraid to drink coffee at the airport because I was already punchy and I was afraid I would jack my stomach up).  Slept great last night and feel rested this morning. Dewey is sleeping on my legs as I type.  :doglick:
Hank is on the couch by the fire. Like nothing has changed around here. 
It looks like it is good we got home when we did, as they are predicting 8-16 inches of rain in the next 3 days here!! :yikes:  Maui will be a distant dream.......

So....I am up roughly 2.5 pounds. I suspect some off it will drop off quick since I won't be drinking beer again for sometime, and the rest I will count as "real" and will need to chip away at it.
All in all...we had a fantastic time, and we are glad to be home.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 29, 2012, 11:48:27 AM
The only good thing about the Mexican tonight is that it'll be takeout - the in-laws will pick it up and bring it to our house - so there will be no margaritas involved. I'm quite sure there will be chips - FIL never met a chip he didn't love - but I'll work very hard to avoid them. I went with the chicken fajita tacos; the plate comes with Spanish rice and I asked for charro beans instead of refried. Reid will likely steal half my rice.  :eyeroll:

I can take some of the cheese off the tacos, but that.... well, let's be honest, that's not likely, now, is it?

It's still better than cheese enchiladas, which is what I'd normally have gotten.

Mouse, that sounds like a fabulous trip - try not to float away with that rain!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 29, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
i just finished off my cauliflower "rice" and it was really tasty, i recommend it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 29, 2012, 01:22:18 PM
I ate Mexican for dinner last night, too.  :)

California Avocado Tacos: soft flour tortillas with salad that has a bit of cheese and avocado slices on top
I ate a few chips with groovy bean dip but not too too bad
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 29, 2012, 01:28:32 PM
Mouse - glad you've made it back and rested up.  2.5 lbs isn't too bad!!  I'd say you did a great job and it'll come off pretty easily.
Debba - enjoy the Mexican.  Sodium likes to sneak up on me too in some things.
Lanarkshire - enjoy your visit with the man...burn some calories together.  ;)


So, yeah, DH was right about the moody/PMS...as I was taken by surprise this morning while at a gym for the kiddos.  Horrible timing.   :-[ But, I did get some exercise in.... it is a huge gymnastics place where they let toddlers run free for 2 hours.  So, lots of trampolines, running around, and jumping into a huge foam pit.  I've never been in a foam pit, it was fun but way harder to move around than you'd think.

Since I  didn't sleep worth a crap last night and we were up earlier I'm hoping to squeeze in a quick nap as soon as the kids crash for their nap.
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Post by: debbatx on March 29, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
Thanks, Bolloxd - I adore Mexican food, especially cheese enchiladas. So, for me, choosing the chicken fajita tacos is a big step in the right direction. Even if it's not "perfect." Hope you get a nap!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 29, 2012, 02:06:00 PM
Mouse - glad you've made it back and rested up.  2.5 lbs isn't too bad!!  I'd say you did a great job and it'll come off pretty easily.
Debba - enjoy the Mexican.  Sodium likes to sneak up on me too in some things.
Lanarkshire - enjoy your visit with the man...burn some calories together.  ;)


So, yeah, DH was right about the moody/PMS...as I was taken by surprise this morning while at a gym for the kiddos.  Horrible timing.   :-[ But, I did get some exercise in.... it is a huge gymnastics place where they let toddlers run free for 2 hours.  So, lots of trampolines, running around, and jumping into a huge foam pit.  I've never been in a foam pit, it was fun but way harder to move around than you'd think.

Since I  didn't sleep worth a crap last night and we were up earlier I'm hoping to squeeze in a quick nap as soon as the kids crash for their nap.
The gym sounds fun! I wish we had something like that up here. 

We had mexican last night too!!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 29, 2012, 02:07:51 PM
I just ate a whole cucumber.  It was sliced. 

Not quite the comfort food I was looking for, but I won't hate myself for it later.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 29, 2012, 02:24:48 PM
So, we're having a potluck lunch next week at work. Someone is bringing in her delicious (and seriously greasy) spaghetti casserole, and one guy is bringing in his famous banana pudding. I'm thinking maybe I should bring a side dish? Someone's doing a salad and someone else is doing a fruit tray, so I'm not sure.

Suggestions?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 29, 2012, 03:05:41 PM
So, we're having a potluck lunch next week at work. Someone is bringing in her delicious (and seriously greasy) spaghetti casserole, and one guy is bringing in his famous banana pudding. I'm thinking maybe I should bring a side dish? Someone's doing a salad and someone else is doing a fruit tray, so I'm not sure.

Suggestions?

My opinion is that there are never too many veggie dishes or salads. I would inquire what type of salad she is bringing and bring a very different one.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 29, 2012, 03:07:39 PM
I agree.  I'd also bring my own sandwich or something so I dont' have to eat that greasy casserole. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 29, 2012, 03:15:13 PM
Um, that greasy casserole is delicious.

I'm sort of thinking a veggie tray and dip or something. No one will eat it, though. We're not a healthy group, in general.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on March 29, 2012, 03:29:45 PM
I'm sort of thinking a veggie tray and dip or something. No one will eat it, though. We're not a healthy group, in general.

deviled eggs
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 29, 2012, 03:34:15 PM
Um, that greasy casserole is delicious.

I'm sort of thinking a veggie tray and dip or something. No one will eat it, though. We're not a healthy group, in general.

I kind of think of it this way. "I" need something to fill the rest of my plate when I take a small piece of that casserole and a green salad is just not going to do it so I almost always bring a yummy healthy veggie dish (and it almost always disappears). Maybe a caprese salad?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 29, 2012, 03:40:39 PM
Oooh, something like that would maybe work. Or a pasta salad? I have a really yummy orzo and veggie salad recipe. Too much pasta? I was thinking a potato salad that's relatively light, but that would probably be weird with spaghetti casserole, so maybe not.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 29, 2012, 05:56:10 PM
Thanks, bolloxd. I've already told him I will be doing my Jillian videos so I don't get too out of shape (only 30 mins.) I asked him to join me and he said no, he'd rather watch. Then we can do some cardio.  :groucho:

debba- my favorite mexican food is cheese enchiladas, too! And guac (chunky homemade kind. NOT that supermarket stuff with sour cream in it...) Mmmmmm...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 29, 2012, 07:47:18 PM
Wait, what? Sour cream *in* guac? That's... not an abomination, exactly, because lord knows I like both on a taco or quesadilla or nachos, but WTF?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 29, 2012, 07:50:19 PM
Wait, what? Sour cream *in* guac? That's... not an abomination, exactly, because lord knows I like both on a taco or quesadilla or nachos, but WTF?

When I make guac I sometimes add just a bit of greek yogurt. I like the flavor it adds.


By the way...I have a really good asparagus, tomato, feta salad that I often bring to things if you want the recipe. I also sometimes sub green beans for some or all of the asparagus depending on availability.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 29, 2012, 08:09:35 PM
I'd love the recipe - thanks!
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Post by: merigayle on March 29, 2012, 08:13:29 PM
a bean salad? broccoli slaw salad?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on March 29, 2012, 10:58:55 PM
So I'm down 2.2 lbs for the week so far but today was just ok eating wise; lunch has been catered every day at the office this week and today there were three dessert choices :sigh: I'm betting the scale will be up in the morning from sodium, etc. but we shall see.  If I can be a good girl and get my butt in bed at a decent time, I hope to work out in the AM :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: leggova on March 29, 2012, 11:22:48 PM
I'm down 5lb from Monday but most of that is water bloat from a pretty unhealthy weekend
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 30, 2012, 01:57:16 AM
I'd love the recipe - thanks!

http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/asparagus-summer-salad-10000001898455/ (http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/asparagus-summer-salad-10000001898455/)
I normally add tomatos.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 30, 2012, 09:07:13 AM
http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/asparagus-summer-salad-10000001898455/ (http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/asparagus-summer-salad-10000001898455/)
I normally add tomatos.
Looks good...I saved it.  I love asparagus.

Well, back to work for me today. I am groggy this morning.
 :luvcoffee:
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Post by: debbatx on March 30, 2012, 09:21:00 AM
Thanks, MM - yum!

The scale's likely to be up tomorrow. All my hard work - POOF.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 30, 2012, 10:40:10 AM
At airport and scored a vegetarian brown rice salad w tahini for lunch!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on March 30, 2012, 11:54:04 AM
At airport and scored a vegetarian brown rice salad w tahini for lunch!

Sounds yum! Philly airport, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on March 30, 2012, 02:33:39 PM
I am a bottomless pit of hunger today.    And it's a rest day.   And it's just going to get worse because I am at the peak of marathon training.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 30, 2012, 03:04:05 PM
We're going out to dinner for DH's birthday - just the two of us. There will be wine, and there will be dessert. I've been good today, but I'll be so ready for dinner tonight. It's been a really long week with the in-laws. I just hope they manage to get Reid to bed.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 30, 2012, 03:55:44 PM
I didn't eat a bunny butt cupcake, but I did eat a delicious marzipan frog.   And there's the most delicious cream-filled cookie in the fridge, laughing at me.  I feel like I've binged even though I haven't had that much in the way of treats. 

Trying really hard not to feel fat.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 30, 2012, 04:21:16 PM
Sounds yum! Philly airport, right?
Yes!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on March 30, 2012, 04:32:56 PM
I so very much want a bunny-butt cupcake right now. However, I'll just have to "settle" for a very nice red wine, a fabulous dinner, and some chocolate mousse for dessert.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 30, 2012, 06:27:23 PM
I'd eat the ass off a bunny cupcake too!

leggova & AS - good work to both of you on the loss!
debba - enjoy the evening.   8)


The kids refused to nap at all today, again.  It's my own fault really....I may have given them too much sugar before naptime.  Oops.  So, I only ran 1.5 very fast for me miles...it felt great.  Rachel is actually sitting on me now & dozing off...so cute. 

Not sure about dinner tonight. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 30, 2012, 06:33:50 PM
I have a night with some gals in an hour or so, and it will include about 2 glasses of wine.   :preen:  I've planned it into my day, even making sure I got a 30 min run in for safe measure.  I do need to find something to eat before I drink, or I'll be hammered.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on March 30, 2012, 07:50:18 PM
Courtney what app do you use to log your food?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 31, 2012, 12:13:42 PM
I was not good at all this week. In fact a lovely all lettuce salad sounds amazing right now. I half expected to have to squeeze myself into my jeans. I am sure I gained at least 5lbs of water. I feel like a blowfish... So puffy! My ankle has been killing me all week too. Oddly, snorkelling seemed to really bug it! Anyway, here's to two days of healthy eating before the next round.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 31, 2012, 02:24:32 PM
Went to the mall this morning, which is usually the 7th circle of Hell, but had a good time. Tried on stuff to figure out what size I am.  8p in most things.  Didn't intend to buy anything, but spent way too much for a jacket at White House Black Market. 

Now I don't have to go to the mall again.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 31, 2012, 02:31:00 PM
I gained 0.8. Not too horrible for being out if town but still frustrating.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Miss on March 31, 2012, 03:17:01 PM
I've totally failed this week.  PMS sucks bunny asses!   How do the women who have PMS in this thread deal with the carb cravings and lack of motivation to exercise.   

 :( :( :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on March 31, 2012, 03:55:52 PM
which is usually the 7th circle of Hell, but had a good time.




What circle of heaven was it, since you got to buy something???  :)  Nice.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 31, 2012, 07:04:24 PM
I am having a hard time getting back to my exercise program since being home.  I am going to start tomorrow by going to my step class.

Mini...good for you! Do you love the jacket?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 31, 2012, 07:11:14 PM
I am having a hard time getting back to my exercise program since being home.  I am going to start tomorrow by going to my step class.

Mini...good for you! Do you love the jacket?

Yes, but I haven't taken the tags off -- I'm still thinking I might have buyer's remorse.  This one (http://www.whitehouseblackmarket.com/store/browse/product.jsp?maxRec=9&pageId=1&productId=570042126&viewAll=&prd=White+Blazer&subCatId=&color=&fromSearch=&inSeam=&posId=5&catId=cat210004&cat=Jackets&onSale=&colorFamily=&maxPg=1&size=) but the pictures don't do it justice.  It looks fabulous on.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 31, 2012, 07:17:18 PM
i just watched this movie, Hungry for Change, by the people who made Food Matters.  Not sure if any of you will see this post in time, but it's free until midnight tonight.  They talked alot about how the food industry manipulates the food to make people addicted and went into alot of details of how things work that we put into our body.  It was not preachy or propaganda ish so if see this and have a chance I recommend checking it out.

http://www.hungryforchange.tv/ (http://www.hungryforchange.tv/)
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Post by: debbatx on March 31, 2012, 08:48:20 PM
I've totally failed this week.  PMS sucks bunny asses!   How do the women who have PMS in this thread deal with the carb cravings and lack of motivation to exercise.   

 :( :( :(

Miss, I just sort of grit my teeth and deal with it, as far as the carb cravings go. I'm never terribly motivated to exercise, so a lack of motivation isn't much different. :)

I gained half a pound this week - considering everything with the in-laws being here, DH's birthday, our date, etc., I'm pretty pleased with that result. I was really afraid I'd erased all the losses from the past few weeks entirely.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 31, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
i just watched this movie, Hungry for Change, by the people who made Food Matters.  Not sure if any of you will see this post in time, but it's free until midnight tonight.  They talked alot about how the food industry manipulates the food to make people addicted and went into alot of details of how things work that we put into our body.  It was not preachy or propaganda ish so if see this and have a chance I recommend checking it out.

http://www.hungryforchange.tv/ (http://www.hungryforchange.tv/)

I'm watching it right now. 
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 31, 2012, 08:55:30 PM
I'm watching it right now. 

Let me know what you think of it!
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Post by: Courtney on March 31, 2012, 08:56:49 PM
Courtney what app do you use to log your food?

myfitnesspal!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Miss on March 31, 2012, 09:10:03 PM
Miss, I just sort of grit my teeth and deal with it, as far as the carb cravings go. I'm never terribly motivated to exercise, so a lack of motivation isn't much different. :)

I gained half a pound this week - considering everything with the in-laws being here, DH's birthday, our date, etc., I'm pretty pleased with that result. I was really afraid I'd erased all the losses from the past few weeks entirely.


  I'm back on the Dukan Diet for 5 days starting tomorrow.  It has been a rough weekend!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on March 31, 2012, 09:13:52 PM
myfitnesspal!
me too!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 31, 2012, 09:54:46 PM
Let me know what you think of it!

It's a little too cultish/infomercial/sales pitch for me.  I got mad when Christianne Northrup said feeding kids sugar was exactly like giving them heroin.  I didn't like the story of the girl who's supposed to be the viewer.  The fit for life diet is a little heavy on promises of detoxifying/disease cleansing for me.  Juicing makes me feel kinda skeptical.

I liked the crazy sexy diet lady's point "my food shouldn't have a longer shelf life than I do."

"Oi looked like Oi swallowed a sheep!"

I agree with the premise that eating fresh fruits and vegetables, whole grains and lean meats is a healthy approach. But when people start talking about toxins I start tuning out. 

I liked the idea of using the unconcious - visualizing the results you want.  I think this is a big part of the challenge I'm fighting now.  I dream about myself being fat.   It's because I'm struggling to get used to the fact that I'm not fat anymore.  I'm trying to rethink my mental scripts that define me as a fat dwarf and seeing a petite woman instead.

That guy Frank who cried talking about self-loathing was very touching.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on March 31, 2012, 10:12:22 PM
Yeah.. there were definitely parts I tuned out. I am not a fan of "juicing" so did kind of skip that, but the take away how the bad carbs and sugar and salt create the craving and the part about food being real, I always need a reminder of that.  I hate how the diet industry and weight watchers in particular market their diet foods.. that were loaded with chemicals and always left me craving for more..

And I liked the part where they talked about how even if you ate 10,000 calories a day, if it didn't have the right nutrition, you would still be hungry.. I think that explains why I still feel hungry or crave food after eating Macdonalds
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 31, 2012, 10:41:01 PM
So I've tracked my food pretty consistently this week!  Even last night's wine & pizza :) 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on March 31, 2012, 11:17:49 PM
I've totally failed this week.  PMS sucks bunny asses!   How do the women who have PMS in this thread deal with the carb cravings and lack of motivation to exercise.   

 :( :( :(

I try to use my irritability as an incentive to run.  However, I do prefer to take a Vicodin and a nap.  I also suck at avoiding any type of cravings when it comes to PMS.


So, today instead of running I took a nap.   :P  We took the kids to an Easter Egg Hunt this morning....they did pretty good and had fun.  Wore me out though.  Food for today has been quite pathetic - they scored a lot of candy at the egg hunt.   That is my PMS coping strategy.  :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 01, 2012, 10:47:38 AM
Yeah.. there were definitely parts I tuned out. I am not a fan of "juicing" so did kind of skip that, but the take away how the bad carbs and sugar and salt create the craving and the part about food being real, I always need a reminder of that.  I hate how the diet industry and weight watchers in particular market their diet foods.. that were loaded with chemicals and always left me craving for more..

And I liked the part where they talked about how even if you ate 10,000 calories a day, if it didn't have the right nutrition, you would still be hungry.. I think that explains why I still feel hungry or crave food after eating Macdonalds

I thought Dr Roberts summed all of this up pretty simply/nicely and backed up with science in the I-diet. You eat because the food is there and because your brain registers it as more "tasty" than salad. You are hungry again shortly after eating the food because of the blood sugar crash that follows eating a diet devoid in fiber. Period, end of story. I don't really believe there is anything more sinister than that going on. IMO, a lot of these movies are just as bad as the diet industry they love to hate. A lot of pseudo science without a lot of actional data. By contrast, Dr. Roberts lays out the reasons we behave the way we do and common sense ways to change the way we eat accordingly.

I have a friend doing a juice fast right now. She's drinking 1600 calories a day of juice and tossing all the fiber to the chickens. She's hoping to do 30 days of juicing. I am just biting my tongue, but is that really "easier" than eating 1200 calories of regular food that will help stem your cravings, nourish your body and set you up for a life time of success? I just don't understand going to extremes like that. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 01, 2012, 11:56:58 AM
I thought Dr Roberts summed all of this up pretty simply/nicely and backed up with science in the I-diet. You eat because the food is there and because your brain registers it as more "tasty" than salad. You are hungry again shortly after eating the food because of the blood sugar crash that follows eating a diet devoid in fiber. Period, end of story. I don't really believe there is anything more sinister than that going on. IMO, a lot of these movies are just as bad as the diet industry they love to hate. A lot of pseudo science without a lot of actional data. By contrast, Dr. Roberts lays out the reasons we behave the way we do and common sense ways to change the way we eat accordingly.

I have a friend doing a juice fast right now. She's drinking 1600 calories a day of juice and tossing all the fiber to the chickens. She's hoping to do 30 days of juicing. I am just biting my tongue, but is that really "easier" than eating 1200 calories of regular food that will help stem your cravings, nourish your body and set you up for a life time of success? I just don't understand going to extremes like that. 

I really think the I diet makes a lot of sense.. I have to admit to skimming the book and not following it totally, but was it correct that it was ok to eat things with high fructose corn syrup?

I think what you eat does make a difference.  I didn't think this movie was overly "the diet industry sucks".  It was more eat whole food.. add more of the good things in and you will like how you start to feel and naturally eat less of the bad.
TBH, films like this are pretty much preaching to the choir when people like us watch them.  Its the people who need to see them, that generally don't.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 01, 2012, 03:04:36 PM
Nit a fan of juicing, dh loves to juice. Bloated up like a balloon from race, ick
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 01, 2012, 08:04:01 PM
myfitnesspal!

Thanks. I have that. I also downloaded a couple of others ones that I'm not to thrilled with. I may go back to that one. When I track my food, it seems I eat better. Imagine that!

I know I haven't been active in this thread, but I want to join so I can work on getting back to healthy eating habits.  :lambie:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 01, 2012, 08:08:15 PM
Managed to run 5 miles today - longest run yet!  I did my push ups & abs too.  I've been pretty good with food so far, but I am starving since my run.    Since the scale has been rude the last few days I'll have to be super careful with my evening snacks. 

I've got a massage booked for tomorrow, I can't wait!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 01, 2012, 08:11:51 PM
Thanks. I have that. I also downloaded a couple of others ones that I'm not to thrilled with. I may go back to that one. When I track my food, it seems I eat better. Imagine that!

I know I haven't been active in this thread, but I want to join so I can work on getting back to healthy eating habits.  :lambie:

Yay :) 

I am the same way.  This week has been much better, as I've been tracking!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 01, 2012, 09:02:36 PM
I am surprised i have been happy with each picture and video of me posted frpm the race, i felt like a hippo amd so far, no tubby pics helps the ego!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 01, 2012, 09:06:05 PM
I am surprised i have been happy with each picture and video of me posted frpm the race, i felt like a hippo amd so far, no tubby pics helps the ego!

Oh that is the best!    :)   And  I would like a race report, please!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 01, 2012, 09:10:57 PM
yes, me too please
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 02, 2012, 03:19:44 AM
I ran in the rain for a really long time, then it got hot. Then ecodork ram 12 miles w me and told me about her NZ honeymoon, then gingerbread ran 12 w me and it was pouring rain and thunderstorming. Then i lost my appetite for the last 40 miles and had a good puke at mile 93. The end! Lol. It was a pretty uneventful race and the weather was miserable!!!!! I got to see soooomany good friends though :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on April 02, 2012, 08:29:24 AM
Yay Meri!   I was thinking about you yesterday as I was hiking - a mere 8 miles! 

Up 3 from yesterday, 2 from last week.   >:( Tacos  >:(  Try very hard not to fall into a spiral of self-loathing when I think about how much more I weigh than Leezle.  I will not compare!  I will not compare!  I will not compare!

I will drink a shitton of DFW to flush out my system. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 02, 2012, 09:21:47 AM
I know, some women on the breatfeeding board i moderate cant keep weight on and i get bitter and jealous. Yes it sucks for them but iwould prefer that issue!  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 09:45:10 AM
I am in a MOOD today. Gah. A cranky, depressed, all-around crappy mood. I would like nothing more than to stick my head in a bag of Reese's Minis. Leezle's thread made me want to just give up all hope. I know it's a shitty situation for her, but.... good Lord. I'd give anything to be forced to drink milkshakes.

 :sigh:

Feel free to ignore me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 02, 2012, 09:58:59 AM
Have any of you read the book Moose: memoirs of a fat camp? I do not want to give anything away but i highly recommend it. As an adult she is told to gain weight during pregnancy and drink milkshakes, major issues for her after being fat her whole life.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 10:07:11 AM
I heard about that book and I think I may have briefly flipped through it during a trip to B&N once, but I didn't read it. I'll have to check into it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on April 02, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
I am in a MOOD today. Gah. A cranky, depressed, all-around crappy mood. I would like nothing more than to stick my head in a bag of Reese's Minis. Leezle's thread made me want to just give up all hope. I know it's a shitty situation for her, but.... good Lord. I'd give anything to be forced to drink milkshakes.

 :sigh:

Feel free to ignore me.

I feel your pain.  I am a cranky mess this morning. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 02, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
I really enjoyed the book, but i also was a summer camp brat an it brought back summer camp memories as well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on April 02, 2012, 10:28:16 AM
Ladies, get a grip about Leezle's thread. Honestly, would you trade for the drama she has going on in her life just to be skinny?
I sure wouldn't.
Cease and desist letting that get to you STAT!!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on April 02, 2012, 10:30:25 AM
I ran in the rain for a really long time, then it got hot. Then ecodork ram 12 miles w me and told me about her NZ honeymoon, then gingerbread ran 12 w me and it was pouring rain and thunderstorming. Then i lost my appetite for the last 40 miles and had a good puke at mile 93. The end! Lol. It was a pretty uneventful race and the weather was miserable!!!!! I got to see soooomany good friends though :)

meri you are a machine!!
I wish you could come to terms with your body issues, focus on the great things your body does for you.
The RR is a pisser :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 10:32:26 AM
I was a summer camp kid, too, but not fat camp!

And Mini, thanks. I'm glad it's not just me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 02, 2012, 10:48:39 AM
I'm not feeling very motivated to eat well right now. I am home today and then back on the road until friday. I just can't find the motivation to eat well today. Plus, I'm on day two of a monster headache and I always crave simple carbs with a headache (like mac & cheese or a baked potato). *sigh*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 10:54:49 AM
Oh, a loaded baked potato sounds delicious right now.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 02, 2012, 11:41:56 AM
I was a summer camp kid, too, but not fat camp!

And Mini, thanks. I'm glad it's not just me.
I did not go to fat camp but camp experience is universal. I was skinny until college and did not have issues w weight growing up but still enjoyed her story. She has another book about her marriage/ex that was good too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 02, 2012, 11:44:25 AM
meri you are a machine!!
I wish you could come to terms with your body issues, focus on the great things your body does for you.
The RR is a pisser :D
I wish i could too. I think it is a combo of public weigh ins plus only interacting with runners who are so petite and thin makes me feel fat. Being happy with the pics i have seen have helped
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 11:51:41 AM
I did not go to fat camp but camp experience is universal. I was skinny until college and did not have issues w weight growing up but still enjoyed her story. She has another book about her marriage/ex that was good too.

That's true about the camp experience being fairly universal. I'm really hoping we can afford to send Reid when he's old enough. I loved it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 02, 2012, 11:57:33 AM
I wish i could too. I think it is a combo of public weigh ins plus only interacting with runners who are so petite and thin makes me feel fat. Being happy with the pics i have seen have helped

I saw a couple on facebook and you look great to me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on April 02, 2012, 12:12:28 PM
I wish i could too. I think it is a combo of public weigh ins plus only interacting with runners who are so petite and thin makes me feel fat. Being happy with the pics i have seen have helped
I am glad they helped. You are amazing just the way you are!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 02, 2012, 12:15:32 PM
Thanks! I cannot tell you how many pics i have removed from facebook that people tag me in!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on April 02, 2012, 12:16:17 PM
I saw a couple on facebook and you look great to me.

Yeah, I envy that skirt!  And the figure!  But I am not willing to do what you do to earn it, so I guess I'll stay my size.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 02, 2012, 12:34:22 PM
This weekend was bad. We went to a buffet at the indian casino for for antag's mom's birthday.  I think I ate my body weight in crab which would be fine if I didn't douse it in butter. Then we proceeded to go home and eat massive amounts of cake. Gah..why do i do that?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 02, 2012, 01:32:56 PM
The skirt was 50% off at skirt sports two weeks ago, discontinued print! I love it, i may pick it over my hot pink one for Badwater!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on April 02, 2012, 01:56:08 PM
{{{{MM}}} I find I don't have an off switch if I have even one drink. If I don't drink I can control myself.
Is there something that is setting the switch to on for you?

Meri I love a bargain! I got a sweater at Kohl's for $5.80 -30% off. I figure if I got to wear it once this spring it was well worth it. I wore it Friday and 4 people commented on how great it looked. I'd say it was a win.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 02, 2012, 03:27:24 PM
{{{{MM}}} I find I don't have an off switch if I have even one drink. If I don't drink I can control myself.
Is there something that is setting the switch to on for you?

Meri I love a bargain! I got a sweater at Kohl's for $5.80 -30% off. I figure if I got to wear it once this spring it was well worth it. I wore it Friday and 4 people commented on how great it looked. I'd say it was a win.

I know I cannot be around sweets which is why I dont bring cake and candy in my home. But I cannot exactly force other people to hide it from me when I am in their home.  :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on April 02, 2012, 03:54:35 PM
I've thought about it long and hard over the years, and I don't want to be that woman who says no to birthday cake.  Blah, blah, blah, fat, refined sugar, white flour, carbs, blah, blah.  I don't care.  I am willing to be a bit fat if it means I can have birthday cake once in a while.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 02, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
I've thought about it long and hard over the years, and I don't want to be that woman who says no to birthday cake.  Blah, blah, blah, fat, refined sugar, white flour, carbs, blah, blah.  I don't care.  I am willing to be a bit fat if it means I can have birthday cake once in a while.

Yep.  Life is too short for that shit.  :) 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on April 02, 2012, 04:01:55 PM
I have good friends that are friends with a woman I like to call Ms Stick up her Ass.
She is really thin and I know it takes work to be that way but for crying out loud, loosen the hell up once in a while!
She_NEVER_deviates from her food plan, her workout and I don't know her that well buy probably anything else in her life.

I don't want to be that way either....it's finding a happy medium that we all strive for.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 04:03:17 PM
Yep.  Life is too short for that shit.  :) 

Yep. I didn't have a cupcake at the birthday party we went to yesterday, but that was more of it looking like they might be running low than me denying myself. I didn't want a kid to not get a cupcake because I'd already eaten it. It's also why my goal weight, right now, is at the high end of the range for my height. I want something I can maintain and still eat the occasional cake, ice cream, burger, pizza, whatever. I've just had to recalibrate what "moderation" means to me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 02, 2012, 04:04:30 PM
Yep.  Life is too short for that shit.  :) 

In a way I agree but I wish I could find a way to stop at one slice and not when the cake is gone.  :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
That all depends on how you define "one" slice. ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 02, 2012, 05:28:56 PM
I've thought about it long and hard over the years, and I don't want to be that woman who says no to birthday cake.  Blah, blah, blah, fat, refined sugar, white flour, carbs, blah, blah.  I don't care.  I am willing to be a bit fat if it means I can have birthday cake once in a while.

I  know what you mean. OTOH, I don't actually like most cake so I am usually declining for that reason alone. I still feel like I get the "one piece isn't going to hurt" look. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 02, 2012, 07:14:56 PM
I always say no to cake, but that's because I'm saving room for ice cream.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 07:54:17 PM
I never say no to either. Or to anyone's extra icing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 02, 2012, 07:55:46 PM
after not eating for 40+ miles and puking, i sat down after finishing my race at the finish line and was handed a delicious piece of cake  :preen:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 07:59:08 PM
I hope it was a very large piece!

Wait you get cake at the end of these things??? Hmmmmm..... :!:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 02, 2012, 08:05:50 PM
Wait you get cake at the end of these things??? Hmmmmm..... :!:

 :hah:

Icing is my favorite part of the cake. I will take a piece of cake just for the icing. I especially like the kind of  icing you get on the cupcakes from safeway. Yes, I know, there is not a stitch of actual food in that stuff- but man is it yummy!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 02, 2012, 08:07:16 PM
Speaking of cake did I tell yall we picked out our wedding cake? 3 layers....one with lemon curd filling, on with chocolate ganache filling, and one with straweberries and cream filling, all white cake with buttercream frosting. I cannot wait!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 02, 2012, 08:23:46 PM
I hope it was a very large piece!

Wait you get cake at the end of these things??? Hmmmmm..... :!:
meh, just regular size, but yummy. This is the only 100 miler that serves cake at the end, they had a big sheet cake with the race's logo on it.


MM-- that is exciting! i only mourn that we did not do a cake tasting. i love cake.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 02, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
This post brought to you by todays' episode of mom guilt:

I know I said I don't like cake. I don't. But, I do like the cupcakes from this particular cupcake shop. They used to do minis... but now they only do regular size (which is really giant size). I totally fell victim to a craving and bought a smores cupcake. My fav. I ate half of it and then foisted the other half on dd. I had forgotten that she is on a healthy eating kick- a major part of which is not eating sugary treats. Of which I have been reminded by both DH *and* DD this afternoon. So, yes, not only did I cheat myself- but I've pushed my addiction onto my child as well.  :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 08:53:48 PM
Well considering that it would take me forever to work up to a 100-miler, they better have a goddamn sheet cake just for me. All corner pieces.

RA, don't worry too much. You're aware now, which is huge.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 02, 2012, 09:11:03 PM
Oh, I knew this was the case... I just spaced. DD and I have had lots and lots of discussions about how to improve her eating lately. BUT she decided to take the dog for a 5mile walk since she was having half the cupcake. :)

I'm making some chipotle bean burritos for dinner. You know what sounds amazing to go along with? White rice with frozen peas, corn & carrots mixed in. WTH?  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 02, 2012, 09:29:44 PM
You and Reid, RA. He regularly wants to eat his leftover chicken tacos and spanish rice, some fruit smoothie, and maybe a waffle for breakfast.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 02, 2012, 10:03:06 PM
Yay MM!  Another big decision done.  I'm so excited for you!

So you know the Seinfeld "look to the cookie" bit?  Black & white cookies (which I now want; thank G-d there are no good deli's here) show exactly how my sisters and I are different with sweets and life: one of my sisters only likes the chocolate side, one only likes the vanilla and I only like the thin white/choc stripe down the center.  With cake I only like bites that have equal small amounts of frosting and cake. The corners are definitely my faves.  (but I'd rather eat pasta w/ good cheese any day)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 02, 2012, 10:04:43 PM
And to make this a healthy post:
no exercise b/c of my big run yesterday (10+ miles that included 2000 ft of elevation gain, then loss) but I ate very healthfully today. A tiny bit of snacking this evening but not much -- I made my DH eat the last 2 macarons  8)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 03, 2012, 07:56:27 AM
RA- it will be ok!

Yeah, sheet cake is a nice bonus after the race. I was so sick to my stomach but had no problem eating the cake! LOL. There was a gourmet cupcake store by the hotel, but we never made it there. I am starving and need to come up with a plan of attack for the week. DH and DD did not leave the house between Fri and when i got home last night  :eyeroll: i gotta go food shopping before work today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 03, 2012, 09:41:49 AM
So much cake talk  >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 03, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
Sorry about the cake talk.

I'm holding steady - the scale is inching down. I need more DFW and more exercise.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 03, 2012, 11:33:12 AM
The scale is moving down for me too...  tracking consistently for a week now has helped.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 03, 2012, 12:31:01 PM
Yes, the tracking is huge for me. Sometimes it's a PITA to do it, but it helps. Now, if I want the scale to really get moving, I've got to incorporate exercise.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 03, 2012, 01:55:44 PM
And exercise rarely seems to help me move the scale...  it will keep it from going up sometimes, but it seems irrelevant in my losses.

I know that can't be, but anectdotally, that's been the trend. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 03, 2012, 02:09:16 PM
I think my body is pretty efficient if I don't get much exercise. Yes, eating less - staying within my WW Points - will get the scale to move, but in relatively small numbers. Some weeks a half a pound is great. But a half a pound or less every goddamn week? That's insane-making. If I throw in some exercise and eat within my Points, including Activity or extra points, then I see better numbers overall.

And yet, dragging my ass out of bed to work out is still damn near impossible.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 03, 2012, 02:25:03 PM
I think my body is pretty efficient if I don't get much exercise. Yes, eating less - staying within my WW Points - will get the scale to move, but in relatively small numbers. Some weeks a half a pound is great. But a half a pound or less every goddamn week? That's insane-making. If I throw in some exercise and eat within my Points, including Activity or extra points, then I see better numbers overall.

And yet, dragging my ass out of bed to work out is still damn near impossible.

If I eat within my points and don't work out I will maintain. If I exercise (and by that I mean at least 5 hours a week) or dont exercise and skip all the extra weekly points I can lose but it sure isn't fun to stick to only 28 points a day and never get any treats. The key is the eating but the exercise also plays an important role for me and I cannot eat my exercise points or all the gains for exercise are lost. I honestly really need to exercise 10+ hours a week to get to my goal weight but I just cannot seem to do it anymore.

I gained by exercising regularly but not watching my eating carefully enough. I ate healthy but my portion size is off.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 03, 2012, 03:19:15 PM
Yeah, I worked out really well over spring break and had a good loss that week by not eating my APs. I think I did have some of the weekly points, but not too many. I really have to be careful with portions and get in some good workouts.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 03, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
There are 3 birthdays this week...  :panic:  I'm a sucker for the c word too.  Luckily (or not) there is a lot of running to & fro this week/weekend to keep our activity levels up -  A birthday gathering on Thursday, Party on Friday, egg hung & party on Saturday, dinner at Granny's on Sunday, and Easter candy to deal with.  As long as I keep up my running I'm hoping to manage.

I got a 5 mile run in today, plus my push-ups.  I've got the stuff to make a salad and be healthy, but just lacking the motivation to put it all together.  How do you make yourself eat healthy meals when other stuff is so much easier.  Some days I have the motivation but on others I'm lucky to eat cereal.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 03, 2012, 04:55:58 PM
There are 3 birthdays this week...  :panic:  I'm a sucker for the c word too.  Luckily (or not) there is a lot of running to & fro this week/weekend to keep our activity levels up -  A birthday gathering on Thursday, Party on Friday, egg hung & party on Saturday, dinner at Granny's on Sunday, and Easter candy to deal with.  As long as I keep up my running I'm hoping to manage.

I got a 5 mile run in today, plus my push-ups.  I've got the stuff to make a salad and be healthy, but just lacking the motivation to put it all together.  How do you make yourself eat healthy meals when other stuff is so much easier.  Some days I have the motivation but on others I'm lucky to eat cereal.



I buy some easy healthy shit for those days.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 03, 2012, 05:06:37 PM
Make sure it's relatively healthy cereal?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 03, 2012, 05:10:27 PM
I buy some easy healthy shit for those days.

Yeah, I like to have stuff like those lean cuisine steamer bags in my freezer for times like that.  I'm sure I could make stuff cheaper, blah blah, but it's better than frozen pizza. 

Or subway.  I eat there a lot. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 03, 2012, 07:00:26 PM
My fitbit came today!  It's so tiny and cute.. and it links to myfitnesspal so all my steps will be recorded.  I can't wait to start having fun with it!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/fashion/fitbit-ultra-a-digital-fitness-tool.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/fashion/fitbit-ultra-a-digital-fitness-tool.html)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 03, 2012, 07:36:03 PM
My fitbit came today!  It's so tiny and cute.. and it links to myfitnesspal so all my steps will be recorded.  I can't wait to start having fun with it!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/fashion/fitbit-ultra-a-digital-fitness-tool.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/fashion/fitbit-ultra-a-digital-fitness-tool.html)
oooh exciting!!! is it Mac compatable?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 03, 2012, 07:58:46 PM
My fitbit came today!  It's so tiny and cute.. and it links to myfitnesspal so all my steps will be recorded.  I can't wait to start having fun with it!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/fashion/fitbit-ultra-a-digital-fitness-tool.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/fashion/fitbit-ultra-a-digital-fitness-tool.html)

Cool!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 03, 2012, 08:13:48 PM
oooh exciting!!! is it Mac compatable?
Yes and it was so easy to download the stuff.. It's still charging but I can't wait to wear it tomorrow.. multiple extra trips to the water cooler in store for me!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 04, 2012, 08:26:23 AM
anxiously awaiting!
i may consider one.

I do walk a lot at work, i barely sat down once yesterday which made my poor feet swell up like balloons. i ate a ton of peanut butter filled pretzels yesterday, but it is race recovery, right? i have that wicked sore throat again that makes me not want to eat. i guess that is good. will see how hungry i get today. i think i am pretty recovered from my race food wise. depends on what the Panera box looks like today :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on April 04, 2012, 09:12:35 AM
Hit my final goal on Saturday!  Still not done, but I'm at my "I'm okay at this weight for life" point.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 04, 2012, 09:31:31 AM
Congrats, Jamers - that's awesome!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on April 04, 2012, 10:15:41 AM
Hit my final goal on Saturday!  Still not done, but I'm at my "I'm okay at this weight for life" point.

WOO HOO!!!   Yay!  That is so terrific!  :rah:

I'm feeling very impatient about wanting to get to my goal weight, but at least I'm back down to where I was before Tacos Sunday night. 
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Post by: hally on April 04, 2012, 10:37:31 AM
Nice Jamers!!
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Post by: onawhim on April 04, 2012, 10:47:53 AM
Good job  :)
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Post by: hally on April 04, 2012, 10:55:07 AM
I am back on track this week....my WW week starts on Friday and that was the last time I had a drink, and used 14 of my WPA. Since then I have stayed between 26 and 29. WW lowered everyone who had 29 to 26 in January but said you didn't HAVE to do the 29. Since I wasn't able to even not use up all my weeklies I decided to stay at 29. I have only lost 5 pounds since January. Time to get back to losing!!

I am proud though that even though I haven't been losing at the same rate I was I have stuck with the changes I've made. In the end, I know what I have to do and that is stop drinking except for the rare occasion.
What cake and candy is to some of you, drinking is to me. ETA not that I drink to excess, when I drink I can't stop eating!

WI tomorrow, don't even know what my goal weight is and it's so far away I am not worried about it. When I get closer I will know.
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Post by: Jamers86 on April 04, 2012, 10:57:13 AM
Thanks everyone!

Now comes the challenge if maintaining.
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Post by: caito on April 04, 2012, 11:01:52 AM
Last night I had a dream that I had purchased a $19 worth of thick sliced, juicy roast beef.   I thought I had asked for a quarter of a pound, but I ended up with this enormous bag.  And I was delighted as I ate a piece.     And that my friends is what marathon training means to me.   Craving meat. 
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Post by: Courtney on April 04, 2012, 11:07:32 AM
$19 worth of beef is very specific.  :D  I love how dreams are like that. 
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Post by: onawhim on April 04, 2012, 11:34:43 AM
Last night I had a dream that I had purchased a $19 worth of thick sliced, juicy roast beef.   I thought I had asked for a quarter of a pound, but I ended up with this enormous bag.  And I was delighted as I ate a piece.     And that my friends is what marathon training means to me.   Craving meat. 

I had a dream where it was the zombie apocalypse and we were looting houses and all I did in each one was eat all the cookies and goldfish crackers.  Everyone had cookies! That was such a good dream  :-[
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Post by: MiniDriver on April 04, 2012, 11:48:34 AM
I had a dream where it was the zombie apocalypse and we were looting houses and all I did in each one was eat all the cookies and goldfish crackers.  Everyone had cookies! That was such a good dream  :-[

 :D  I love you.
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Post by: merigayle on April 04, 2012, 12:06:32 PM
mmmm cookies.

i did take a piece of brownie from the Panera box.  :sneaking:

I am so exhausted. I hope to be caught up on sleep soon and should be able to get a workout in tomorrow, probably a slow walk, will run again next week :D
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 04, 2012, 12:22:12 PM
anxiously awaiting!
i may consider one.

I do walk a lot at work, i barely sat down once yesterday which made my poor feet swell up like balloons. i ate a ton of peanut butter filled pretzels yesterday, but it is race recovery, right? i have that wicked sore throat again that makes me not want to eat. i guess that is good. will see how hungry i get today. i think i am pretty recovered from my race food wise. depends on what the Panera box looks like today :D

I have it on.. right clipped to my bra... they say attached as close to the torso is best and the bra is so convenient!  I dn't know it is even there.. I wore it to sleep last night but it only recorded 3 hours.. I have to figure out what I might have done.. It says I woke up once in that time.

It records sleep calories as well. When I checked this morning before my trainer workout, I had already burned a lot of calories ( I did 20 min of elliptical) I will check it at lunch when I change my clothes to walk and report back!   My flower is growing though!  I dont think their traget audience is really someone who is as active as me... it's probably more getting inactive people to be cognizant... but I am liking it so far.  And, I am logging into My fitness pal with my food, so I will sync it tonight at home and it should tell me my deficit.
By the way, My fitness  pal had my calories so low!  1200!  I know I need more than that. I adjusted to 1400 and I figure I will get extra from the fitbit syncing.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 04, 2012, 12:35:38 PM
I stepped on the scale this morning. I want to be exactly 20 pounds smaller by the wedding.
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Post by: Courtney on April 04, 2012, 12:42:20 PM
I didn't know the fitbit synced with myfitnesspal!  I can't wait to hear what you think as you use it. 

I've heard that it won't record workouts well, especially things like biking/spinning...  do you know?   Would it record runs? 
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Post by: MiniDriver on April 04, 2012, 01:03:07 PM
I stepped on the scale this morning. I want to be exactly 20 pounds smaller by the wedding.

5 pounds a month, you can do it!

I just finished lunch and my full sensor hasn't kicked in yet.   :( 
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 04, 2012, 01:41:02 PM
Jamers - congrats on hitting that goal!
hally - glad to hear it all seems to be going well for you.
onawhim -  :D you'd survive a zombie apocalypse, you'll need those calories!
caito - dreaming of meat sounds like a nice one to have too.
Mini - DFW. 

It must have been the night for crazy dreams.  I had that one where some evil being/force paralyzes me and usually I can't move and will wake up in a horrible panic.  Last night was the first time I was able to tell this 'being' to Fuck Off! and it actually worked!  That is a huge thing for me.

I love them more than life, but the kids are driving me nuts today!   :argh:  On the plus side the scale this morning is back down to where I can stay comfortable....the 5 mile runs seem to be doing the trick.  Plus I've eased up on the snacking, only because there is none in the house.

Right...making some hard-boiled eggs to dye later.  They'll be good for snacking.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 04, 2012, 02:37:29 PM
I didn't know the fitbit synced with myfitnesspal!  I can't wait to hear what you think as you use it. 

I've heard that it won't record workouts well, especially things like biking/spinning...  do you know?   Would it record runs? 

So far I am loving it!  We walked at lunch and did 2.3 miles.. between that and my trainer this morning I'm at 12,000 plus steps and I still have track tonight.  It registers the hills as stairs and we have a hilly route so I have 20 flights of stairs.  I am not sure how totally accurate it is, but if your goal is to move more, it will definitely give you a good idea if you are doing that from day to day.

You are supposed to attach it as close to your torso as possible, but I have read that for accurcy on biking you should took if into your bike shorts on the bottom on the side of your leg. I ordered the tether for 1.50 because I heard a lot of stories of people having it fall out of their pockets.  That hasn't come yet because it was not amazon prime eligible.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 04, 2012, 04:17:35 PM
I was in the buiding that houses the school of public health this monring and saw this sign by the elevator: "Take the stairs. It is healthier" with an arrow presumably pointed toward the stairwell. I thought it was cute.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 04, 2012, 09:01:20 PM
The fitbit is awesome!  So far I am totally in love!  Today was a big day for me because I had training in the morning for an hour and we do some sprints on that, plus I did the elliptical for 20 ish minutes before it.  We walked 2.35 miles at lunch time and I had track work out tonight

My steps for the day were 22,000!  22 floors climbed (it measures hills as floors and our lunch time waking route is hilly)  2841 calories burned and supposedly 13 miles walked..

I could eat a whole days more worth of calories if I wanted. but I won't.

I think it might be estimating calorie burn high, but regardles.. seeing in writing my steps is a huge motivation to move!
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 04, 2012, 10:07:02 PM
Sounds like a fun gadget MoS.


So, I made a pavlova today for DH's b-day (as a test run since I've never made one) and it is so freaking tasty.  How have I never had one before?!  It is so light & fluffy and is my new fav dessert.  It's only egg whites, sugar, vanilla, and then some whipped cream with a bunch of strawberries....that is healthy, right? :)

I did pretty good for dinner - healthy pasta with homemade sauce & fresh basil. 

 
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Post by: debbatx on April 04, 2012, 10:26:47 PM
It's dairy, protein, and fruit - sounds healthy to me! :D
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Post by: merigayle on April 05, 2012, 08:05:22 AM
i see pavlova recipes in cooking light, so it must be health(ier) cake :D
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Post by: debbatx on April 05, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
Blergh. Scale continues to inch downwards, but at least it's going the right direction. Anyone have any suggestions for dealing with mold allergies? They're killing me. Claritin isn't doing jack for it, although it would likely be much worse if the Claritin weren't keeping the oak pollen at bay.
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Post by: onawhim on April 05, 2012, 10:14:04 AM
Love pavlova  :-*
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 05, 2012, 10:15:49 AM
Blergh. Scale continues to inch downwards, but at least it's going the right direction. Anyone have any suggestions for dealing with mold allergies? They're killing me. Claritin isn't doing jack for it, although it would likely be much worse if the Claritin weren't keeping the oak pollen at bay.

Do you have a nasal steroid.

Mold is definately one of the things I am allergic to also.
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Post by: hally on April 05, 2012, 10:20:14 AM
debba, down is good!!
MOS, I know I can not use the burned calories and lose weight. And yea, it sounds high. Just make note of it and move on is what I would do.

Me too in the moving slowly(crawling) in the right direction, down .8 at this weeks weigh in. Two weeks ago was same, last week skipped my weigh in.
Down 23.2 total. I was REALLY on program this week too....but last week was tough with two parties one right after the other so glad I am back on track and see a loss.
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Post by: debbatx on April 05, 2012, 10:34:19 AM
Do you have a nasal steroid.

Mold is definately one of the things I am allergic to also.

Yeah, I have nasonex, and I've been taking it, but the mold and oak have both been in the insanely high category lately. The counts are just through the roof.  :grr: It's making me drain-y and giving me a nagging headache.
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Post by: MiniDriver on April 05, 2012, 11:08:32 AM
Of course Mini obsessive is wondering how this stupid fracture isn't going to throw me off track.
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Post by: debbatx on April 05, 2012, 11:28:53 AM
Awwwwww.  :hug: One thing at a time, Mini. Get out of the ER first.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 05, 2012, 11:38:54 AM
Of course Mini obsessive is wondering how this stupid fracture isn't going to throw me off track.

I understand.  :(  But don't do that to yourself! Did you call your husband yet or do I have to do it for you?  :bat:
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Post by: merigayle on April 05, 2012, 12:18:25 PM
 :hug: MINI!!! I broke my foot in 2000 and that is when i gained all my weight. I was so miserable and reclusive. And I lived in Boston and there was a service that delivered movies and Ben and Jerry's to my door :D You will persevere.

I was going to walk on the TM today but I could barely move. I am just doing some emails, internet, etc. I am so exhausted. I wish DH would help out a little more, especially more at night, but whatever. I cannot change someone overnight, but i feel like i am going to keel over.
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Post by: onawhim on April 05, 2012, 12:32:58 PM
Mini!  I  know how you feel but you are alive and going to be ok and that is the most important thing.   :hug:
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Post by: debbatx on April 05, 2012, 12:34:52 PM
I may have to move to Boston, if there is a place that will deliver movies and Ben & Jerry's to me.
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Post by: merigayle on April 05, 2012, 12:38:54 PM
I may have to move to Boston, if there is a place that will deliver movies and Ben & Jerry's to me.
:D it is a recipe for fatness, indeed. this was pre Netflix, so they may not exist anymore. there was also a company that would deliver HOT fresh baked cookies in a box like a pizza box, slightly undercooked and delicious  :sneaking:
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Post by: debbatx on April 05, 2012, 02:50:33 PM
Ooooh, yeah, we have a cookie delivery place here. They're to die for. SO good.
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Post by: Courtney on April 05, 2012, 03:50:51 PM
Yeah, I have nasonex, and I've been taking it, but the mold and oak have both been in the insanely high category lately. The counts are just through the roof.  :grr: It's making me drain-y and giving me a nagging headache.

Nasonex wasn't all that effective for me.  I am now taking omnaris (nasal spray) and it's way better.  Call your doc and ask for a different RX.

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Post by: debbatx on April 05, 2012, 03:52:13 PM
The Nasonex has been doing pretty well keeping the pollen allergies at bay. It's just now, that the mold has gone up, that I'm feeling cruddy again.
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Post by: Courtney on April 05, 2012, 03:53:26 PM
While I often bemoan the lack of a Blizzard delivery service, I can't imagine delivery ice cream or cookies would be anything but bad for my health :D

Mini, holy moly, I'm glad you are mostly ok!! 

Debba, mold is one of my allergies, too...  I don't know what is different about omnaris, but it seems to be way better.  I also pair that with Singulair, since claritin and zyrtec were doing bupkiss for me. 

It's worth messing with the combo, becuase when you get it right, it's way better.  :)
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 05, 2012, 04:01:09 PM
Gee Mini, I really hope you heal up quickly.  You've got to rest up to heal up! 
Debba - hope you're allergies clear soon.  It is has been a tough year for allergy sufferers!  The kids have started making fun of DH for sneezing so much.

Well, it is a good thing pavlova is 'healthy' because that mofo is GONE.  Rachel went psycho and only kept saying more, more, more, more.  David wouldn't even taste it.  I'll make another one tonight since DH's b-day is tomorrow.  Nephew's b-day is today so there will be cupcakes, and I've been designated to decorate his cake for a party on Saturday.  So many temptations around!

I was able to get a 5.15 mile run in just now, plus my push-ups & abs.  Hopefully that will keep the sweets damage to a minimum. 

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Post by: merigayle on April 05, 2012, 04:11:54 PM
I weighed myself and was down a pound, which is good since i have eaten like a horse the past few days. Nothing too terrible perse, besides the brownie, but just quantity.


I also remembered that i went of BCP in grad school because i could not lose weight and i lost most of my college flab between being on the BCP and getting my first Mirena, so i do wonder if the hormones are playing a factor in all of this???? We will see. I am going back on the horse Monday and will eat really well and hoping in 2 weeks to start 2 a day runs :) I am really excited about that. I have also weaned DD and have not nursed since Friday morning. It is really hard on her and her yoga instructor suggested buying her a present so i stopped at target today on my way to work and got her a little Dora doll. It seems as the days go on, it gets worse with her wanting to nurse. I feel awful, but am standing strong. Her friend's mom weaned in the fall and gave me a high five and hugs yesterday, it helped to have her support and she said after two weeks things were better.
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Post by: debbatx on April 05, 2012, 04:28:01 PM
Thanks, bolloxd - I was doing fine with the allergies, even as bad as they've been, until the mold shot up yesterday.  :nono:
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Post by: Ice Cream on April 05, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Of course Mini obsessive is wondering how this stupid fracture isn't going to throw me off track.

Years ago, I broke a big toe and could not run/walk for 6 weeks.  then eased back into it.  I was not very hungry because I did not exercise, and as a result lost a bit of weight!  I also thought that the 6 weeks of forced rest did good for all the other parts of the body that usually get pushed hard. 

I am now getting back into running after 2 months of inactivity.  No weight gain, but I watched it carefully.

Good luck, you do not have to gain weight.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 05, 2012, 08:15:48 PM
2nd day of fit bit.. still loving it!  We did not walk at lunch today, so just my average work . copier.. bathroom etc was about 3200 steps..

When I got home, I went for a 5 mile run and am doing laundry, which involves stairs!

Right now I am at 13502 steps,8.35 miles,2285 cal, and 44 flights of stairs.. I picked lot's of hills for my run because they translate to stairs....it sets me my goals automatically.. this will get reset based on my activity level after a while..
10,000 steps, 10 flights of stairs, 2095 calories burned and 5 miles covered.  I've been over both days, but really.. without my lunch time work, I have to work hard to get to 10k steps!!

I do love it too.. it sends random motivational mesages like "rock on"  "keep going"  It's fun!
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Post by: merigayle on April 05, 2012, 08:45:34 PM
great job MoS! Seems very motivational!

so i looked at my lab results, finally got them on my phone app  :eyeroll: and i am wondering if the T3 is a little on the low side, emailed my friend. will see what she says. it is at the bottom of the range for "normal"
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Post by: hally on April 06, 2012, 10:32:57 AM
Hang tough on the weaning Meri and hugs, I know it's got to be hard.
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Post by: Courtney on April 06, 2012, 11:27:39 AM
Mini, how are you feeling today?

Today is going to be hard.  I'm bored out of my mind at work, I don't have much to do today (I'm still pretty new, and I need more to do, and my boss has been out all week and I have everything done).  I eat when I'm bored.  I'm going to try not to do that. 
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Post by: debbatx on April 06, 2012, 12:40:18 PM
Today should be fine for me, it's this weekend that I'm dreading. We're going to my parents' for Easter. BBQ for lunch, according to my mom, and then a big party with her side of the family on Saturday night - burgers and really unhealthy sides. And then on Sunday, we're doing a big breakfast - some kind of egg casserole, sausages, cinnamon rolls or biscuits and gravy... that kind of thing.

Gah.  :sigh:
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Post by: nadra24 on April 06, 2012, 12:58:53 PM
My coworker brought in chocolate covered strawberries today.  Yesterday she brought in chocolate and caramel covered pretzels.  It's ironic, she owns a candy company and works for a child nutrition program.  Her candy is HELLA good, I can't resist it.
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Post by: debbatx on April 06, 2012, 01:53:15 PM
What would make a good afternoon snack - any opinions? I'm thinking about ditching the pretzels from my lunch and having veggies and hummus instead, but then that leaves me without an afternoon snack option. I usually have a little thing of Greek yogurt for my morning snack.
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Post by: Courtney on April 06, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
cottage cheese?
string cheese?
fruit?

These are often my go-to afternoon snacks when I don't have a bucket of candy in front of me.
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Post by: debbatx on April 06, 2012, 01:57:36 PM
Not a big cottage cheese fan, but string cheese is good, as is fruit. I usually have an apple with lunch, and fruit in my morning smoothie (if I make it), but really, more fruit wouldn't kill me. I'm trying to up my veggie intake, but I don't think I can do veggies at lunch and then MORE veggies for a snack a few hours later.
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Post by: Courtney on April 06, 2012, 03:13:37 PM
Not a big cottage cheese fan, but string cheese is good, as is fruit. I usually have an apple with lunch, and fruit in my morning smoothie (if I make it), but really, more fruit wouldn't kill me. I'm trying to up my veggie intake, but I don't think I can do veggies at lunch and then MORE veggies for a snack a few hours later.

Fruit is always a winner in my book.  :)

I  :heartbeat: cottage cheese.  In fact, I bought some baked lays with my sandwich at subway today, specifically with the intent of scooping up my FF cottage cheese onto them for my afternoon snack.  Nom nom nom.  I'd prefer ruffles, but lays were my only choice. 

I also have some grapes in the freezer for later.  Have you tried frozen grapes?  They are like little mini slushies in every bite.
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Post by: debbatx on April 06, 2012, 03:20:09 PM
If it were possible to get grapes away from my kid long enough to freeze any, that's an awesome idea. :)
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 06, 2012, 03:23:15 PM
One of my fav afternoon snacks is an apple with peanut butter & a few raisins on top. 

It has been a great day today.  I managed to get myself pulled together this morning (dress & make-up) to look nice for DH's b-day today - typically I'm a slob till the early afternoon.  He really liked all of the gifts, and me & the kids decorated his card & gift wrap paper with finger paint last night.  I made some bacon, eggs & cheese biscuits for breakfast (I only had a little).  The kids got to color easter eggs.  We got to video chat with his family in England.  Have enjoyed the birthday shag while kids nap, and now we're out on the deck in the sun.  Pavlova for dessert after a grilled steak & salad dinner....movie this evening on the tv after kids go to bed.   :preen:
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Post by: Courtney on April 06, 2012, 03:25:48 PM
If it were possible to get grapes away from my kid long enough to freeze any, that's an awesome idea. :)

Heh.  I take mine to work and put them in the freezer there, because while I don't have a kid, I have a husband who will totally steal them!  :D
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Post by: merigayle on April 06, 2012, 03:28:41 PM
i eat grapes for snack, and apples. I also have my lunch in two parts, so kinda like a snack.
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Post by: debbatx on April 06, 2012, 03:51:58 PM
Grapes are possibly Reid's favorite food. He LOVES them.
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Post by: Jamers86 on April 06, 2012, 08:54:30 PM
I've been LOVING cottage cheese lately!  The texture freaked me out until someone pointed out that its basically the same as riccotta.
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Post by: Ice Cream on April 07, 2012, 06:53:40 AM
Ideal weight calculation I came across today

(square of your height in cm) x 20 = minimum healthy weight

(square of your height in cm) x 25 = maximum healthy weight




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Post by: MiniDriver on April 07, 2012, 08:25:45 AM
Fighting boredom eating, and will likely indulge in a little Easter treaty today and or tomorrow.  Should I increase dairy a bit to get extra calcium for bone healing?  Do cadbury mini eggs count as dairy?

I want to hear about Passover meals! 
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Post by: merigayle on April 07, 2012, 09:31:22 AM
i do not think eating more dairy will help that much. there is an herb you can get at Whole foods called "bone knit" and i would look into that.

so there is this woman who runs Badwater every year, she is a specimen, looks like a female body builder. I said to DH this morning, as unhappy as i am with how i look, i'd rather look like a woman (breasts, curves) than that. It is just so not feminine. So be proud of me for that revelation. And this woman adopted her daughter, i do not know the backstory, but it makes me feel better about my post baby body :D
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 07, 2012, 10:32:42 AM
Last night we had sushi and I found a single cadbury egg at the store. I am now satisfied for the easter season. We have to weigh in today because of the holiday tomorrow so hopefully that goes well.
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Post by: merigayle on April 07, 2012, 11:06:28 AM
i had a cadbury egg after my race last weekend and it was not the heavenly treat i envisioned. which is good.
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Post by: Run Amok on April 07, 2012, 01:04:04 PM
Today is the day I get back on track, for a week. Grocery shopping is on the list, for sure!

Ideal weight calculation I came across today

(square of your height in cm) x 20 = minimum healthy weight

(square of your height in cm) x 25 = maximum healthy weight

I'm struggling with the terminology here. What does "square of your height" mean? I read that as "your height squared". I read that as (160*160) * 20= 512000 which obviously isn't correct. But... even as the square root of 160, it doesn't work. Can you demonstrate this with actual #'s?
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Post by: Run Amok on April 07, 2012, 01:07:06 PM
Oh... I found this. Maybe your calculator is missing a step? BTW, this seemed to work out ok for me. So, at my height- it says my max ideal weight is 145. My min ideal weight is 107. That seems about right.

Ideal Weight
 
The BMI formula can easily be converted to solve for ideal weight. Multiply 18.5 by the square of your height in inches, and divide the product by 703. This is your minimum ideal weight. Now multiply 24.9 by the square of your height in inches, and divide the product by 703. This is your maximum ideal weight. Under the metric system, multiply 18.5 by the square of your height in meters for your minimum ideal weight. Perform the same calculation using 24.9 for your maximum ideal weight. As with BMI, healthy women tend toward the upper end of the healthy range.


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/248307-the-ideal-height-and-weight-for-women/#ixzz1rNJqBy7b (http://www.livestrong.com/article/248307-the-ideal-height-and-weight-for-women/#ixzz1rNJqBy7b)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on April 07, 2012, 01:42:28 PM
So now that I'm trying not to lose weight, I dropped 1.5 pounds without trying.  Um, where were these results when I was working my ass off?

I guess I'm pleased, but I also don't want to spring for an emergency fitting.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 07, 2012, 02:02:44 PM
Remember when I was mad at myself for wearing unflattering shorts at the gym?   Well I have 2 pairs of capris from Target that are awesome.  They are so flattering.   I usually don't wear them to run, but I've been thinking that I might want to try running in them to see if they would be good to wear during the marathon.   I tend to get chafing problems in my running shorts during really long runs and I just don't want to have to think about that during the marathon.  And also I've done all my training in pants or capris because it's been winter.   The capris I normally run in have a tight waist band and they make me feel fat if I'm not wearing a long sleeve or a jacket.  And I think it will be too warm for all that on race day.  The Target capris are very thin and light.    But I'm worried about my "good" flattering capris getting too worn out.

So today I went to Target and bought 4 pairs of my my favorite capris.  The last 4 they had.   Over $100.

And that my friends is a window into my neurotic, appearance-obsessed, strange little head.   :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 07, 2012, 02:55:51 PM
I lost 3 pounds!!! Yay!

We also found these 1 point ciabatta sandwich rolls last weekend by Antag's moms house and they are so friggin good. But I dont think we can find them up here. :( I dont know how this bakery manages to make their stuff so low carb.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 07, 2012, 03:34:28 PM
great job MM!

Caito- i would have bought 4 more too!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 07, 2012, 03:56:19 PM
caito, that totally sounds like me.  or my sister.

Passover Seder #1 was in my house last night.  I ate a bit too much but not terribly.  I passed on the matzo balls in favor of a piece of matzo -- half with haroset and half with butter.  Tons of veggies (roasted asparagus, caprese salad and I didn't eat too much) and I made quinoa with caramelized onions and mushrooms.  Dessert was plump strawberries with a bit of homemade whipped cream.  And I only had one glass of wine.  Oh and a bit too much of the deviled eggs.

Tonight we're going to a friend's house so we'll see...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on April 07, 2012, 04:39:54 PM
Ok, I want to join and am going to try to post faithfully.  Not being able to post at work narrows my window, but I have been very inspired by you guys.  I want to lose 10 pounds by early June for our beach trip.  I started a couple of weeks ago in earnest and have been fairly successful.  I do much better at work than on weekends.

I work 3 days a week and have a gym there so I workout those days.  I'm not very good at fitting workouts in at home except a rare yoga DVD or crunches/pushups, but as some of you said, I didn't see any results on the scale anyway until I started tracking what went in my mouth.  I don't snack that much, but I'm sure my portions are too big so that is where I have started.  Oh and alcohol.  I keep telling myself to save it for the beach.  :)



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 07, 2012, 05:50:59 PM
welcome Coyzmom!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on April 07, 2012, 06:32:46 PM
Hi Cozymom!  It will be worth the effort when you get to the beach and you feel decent in your swim suit.  It was for me!

I have been having a hell.of.a.time getting back to my prevacation schedule of eating and working out. I had been so tired for a week that getting out of bed to run was near impossible, but I finally managed yesterday to get a quick short run in..and it made me feel better. Tis morning DH woke me up at 7am and we had our coffee, a soak and then went to Headwaters for a run. For me.....eating well always follows exercising....so if I can stay on track exercise then hopefully I can get back on track eating.
I think we are having ceviche tonite, with quinoa on side.  DH almost made a prime rib for dinner,  :panic: , which means it would be really hard to practice portion control.

portion control.portion control.portion control.

I hope everyone is doing well...welcome home RA. Mini I hope you are feeling okay...how was playing with the carts? merigayle...you are awesome...in so many ways. deb...hide the grapes before Reid knows they are there! Courtney...you are inspiring me to get back to spinning.

 :lambie:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 07, 2012, 07:05:17 PM
Today is the day I get back on track, for a week. Grocery shopping is on the list, for sure!

I'm struggling with the terminology here. What does "square of your height" mean? I read that as "your height squared". I read that as (160*160) * 20= 512000 which obviously isn't correct. But... even as the square root of 160, it doesn't work. Can you demonstrate this with actual #'s?

say you are 1.70 m

1.70 x 1.70 = 2.89
2.89 x 20 = 57.8 kg = 127.4 pounds (min.)
2.89 X 25 - 72.2 kg = 159.1 pounds (max.)

(I read about this on a Dutch website, hence the metric calculation.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 07, 2012, 07:50:07 PM
say you are 1.70 m

1.70 x 1.70 = 2.89
2.89 x 20 = 57.8 kg = 127.4 pounds (min.)
2.89 X 25 - 72.2 kg = 159.1 pounds (max.)

(I read about this on a Dutch website, hence the metric calculation.)
132-165lbs for me (5'8")

interesting range. at my racing weight, i was 135-7, and i did not think i was anywhere near the minimum weight, i thought i looked AWESOME. at 165, i feel flabby. At the median (148) i would still want to be thinner than that. and American site said "You should be about 146 pounds, but anything from 126 and 167 pounds is still OK." I'd be thrilled to be 140 at this point.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 07, 2012, 08:48:27 PM
132-165lbs for me (5'8")

interesting range. at my racing weight, i was 135-7, and i did not think i was anywhere near the minimum weight, i thought i looked AWESOME. at 165, i feel flabby. At the median (148) i would still want to be thinner than that. and American site said "You should be about 146 pounds, but anything from 126 and 167 pounds is still OK." I'd be thrilled to be 140 at this point.

So would I. At my weigh in this morning I was 177.6 and I am only 5'4".
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on April 07, 2012, 09:09:49 PM
At first my numbers seemed nutty.  Then I realized I'm 62 inches tall, not 32.

101 to 136 sounds about right, actually.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 07, 2012, 09:13:15 PM
Ok... Now I get it. It says 118-147. 118 is higher that I would set the min.

Ok, so healthy starts Monday. :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 07, 2012, 10:03:04 PM
Ok... Now I get it. It says 118-147. 118 is higher that I would set the min.

Ok, so healthy starts Monday. :-[

It seems to give the same numbers as BMI does.
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on April 08, 2012, 12:56:53 PM
It seems to give the same numbers as BMI does.

I think it's the same equation, just algebraically reworked.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on April 08, 2012, 03:47:30 PM
Not one. freaking. candy.  >:( :( >:(

Playing with the electronic shopping cart was great!  I'll think of some excuse to go back to the store later this week so I can play some more.

I'm doing pretty good controlling portions, but it still annoys me that I can't get much exercise.   I think I just have to take a one day at a time do the best I can approach.  It annoys the heck out of me that I can't really weigh myself until the cast's off. 

Welcome Cozy! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 08, 2012, 04:06:54 PM
Welcome cozy! 


Food has been OK, I guess.  A few pieces of candy but not much...the birthdays over the weekend was tough.  Blueberry pancakes this morning, a 5.3 mile run, push-ups & crunches all done.  This evening's meal is going to be hard, since I'm giving my brother a lift to his house since he wrecked his car yesterday and is at my parents.  Luckily he's OK...he fell asleep while driving.  3rd shift & a newborn has been hard on him!

The kids have had a great Easter...they loved their baskets with little toys.  They had their first creme egg and seem to be addicted, but I've hidden them now.  We usually go to my Granny's for lunch but she has pneumonia so it has been delayed for a few weeks until she's better.  At least it spreads out the overindulging.



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 08, 2012, 04:14:35 PM
I haven't had any candy yet, but good LORD, we ate horribly last night and this morning. Also, seeing my sister was a scary, scary wake-up call for me - what will happen if I don't get my ass in gear.

I'm getting up in the morning.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 08, 2012, 04:52:43 PM
only playdoh in the easter eggs :) however, if we stop by target for clearance stuff tomorrow, lord help us all :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 08, 2012, 05:36:10 PM
Not one. freaking. candy.  >:( :( >:(

Playing with the electronic shopping cart was great!  I'll think of some excuse to go back to the store later this week so I can play some more.

I'm doing pretty good controlling portions, but it still annoys me that I can't get much exercise.   I think I just have to take a one day at a time do the best I can approach.  It annoys the heck out of me that I can't really weigh myself until the cast's off. 

Welcome Cozy! 



Not one. freaking. candy.  >:( :( >:(

Playing with the electronic shopping cart was great!  I'll think of some excuse to go back to the store later this week so I can play some more.

I'm doing pretty good controlling portions, but it still annoys me that I can't get much exercise.   I think I just have to take a one day at a time do the best I can approach.  It annoys the heck out of me that I can't really weigh myself until the cast's off. 

Welcome Cozy! 
Why can you not weight yourself?  It seems to me that you could still measure the ups and downs from day to day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on April 08, 2012, 08:48:06 PM
Hmmm I need to find out what my BMI and ideal weight is.

Today we had a breakfast casserole for breakfast which I had a little bit of with coffee and for Easter late lunch/early dinner ham, deviled eggs, baked beans, etc.  I had small portions and think I did OK.  I'm sure I forgot to record some of what I ate, but overall, I think I'm OK.  The kids have tons of candy of course, but I'm not too tempted by it, thank goodness.

Bolloxd, thank goodness your brother is OK.  Lack of sleep is rough.

Mini, hope you heal quickly.  I think you are on such a good track that you will be OK while you are getting better.

Thanks for the welcome everyone.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 08, 2012, 09:07:32 PM
I thought Dr Roberts summed all of this up pretty simply/nicely and backed up with science in the I-diet. You eat because the food is there and because your brain registers it as more "tasty" than salad. You are hungry again shortly after eating the food because of the blood sugar crash that follows eating a diet devoid in fiber. Period, end of story. I don't really believe there is anything more sinister than that going on. IMO, a lot of these movies are just as bad as the diet industry they love to hate. A lot of pseudo science without a lot of actional data. By contrast, Dr. Roberts lays out the reasons we behave the way we do and common sense ways to change the way we eat accordingly.



Ok, so I know the thread is probably totally somewhere else right now, but this is as far as I am in catching up from last week.... I must disagree with this. My diet is FULL of fiber. FULL. I love salad. It is one of my favorite things to eat! I eat mostly whole foods and I still could eat way more than I do when I'm watching cals. I find I stop naturally around 2000 cals if I don't consciously count. (Higher than my daily needs, I think.) Just wanted to comment here before I forgot my thoughts!

/back to catching up...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on April 08, 2012, 11:36:58 PM
So I started the Turbo Fire dvds today and it was fun but tough! Have another workout in the AM before the kiddos get up; food today was decent but will be happy to be back at work and in my routine tomorrow :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 09, 2012, 08:18:48 AM
getting back on track today whole hog. made tofu scramble for bfast. I am really looking forward to two a day workouts next week, i really think i will start to see the scale budge.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on April 09, 2012, 09:01:42 AM
 :luvcoffee:

Tired but the plan is to run this morning as soon as I get some coffee in. Will eat only what I bring to work....berries, an apple with pb and whatever dh makes for me!
I feel like I am on the cusp of getting back on routine.

Have a good day everyone.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 09, 2012, 09:24:54 AM
Oof. So, I got knocked over by allergies this weekend. Switched my OTC meds to Zyrtec, since it's supposed to be better for mold. I guess it's better? Not sure - I think I waited too long to make the switch. I'm totally stuffed up and have lost my voice! Last night I was coughing so hard I had to take the high-powered cough syrup, so I was totally drugged up when the alarm went off this morning. Dammit.

Plan for today: eat well. Take medicine sooner. Get to sleep earlier, which won't be an issue if I'm taking my meds sooner. Sleep better.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 09, 2012, 09:41:57 AM
Oof. So, I got knocked over by allergies this weekend. Switched my OTC meds to Zyrtec, since it's supposed to be better for mold. I guess it's better? Not sure - I think I waited too long to make the switch. I'm totally stuffed up and have lost my voice! Last night I was coughing so hard I had to take the high-powered cough syrup, so I was totally drugged up when the alarm went off this morning. Dammit.

Plan for today: eat well. Take medicine sooner. Get to sleep earlier, which won't be an issue if I'm taking my meds sooner. Sleep better.

I know how you feel. I had two miserable runs in a row this weekend because I couldn't breathe. I spent the time coughing and gagging and then Antag told me I should just suck it up...as if mentally wanting to breathe will magically help. I was struggling so hard that my chest hurt from all the effort afterwards.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 09, 2012, 09:56:43 AM
I was doing okay until the mold shot through the roof last week. Now, though,  :nono: I actually woke up coughing last night. That was fun. When I couldn't cough it out, I had to get up and take the Hydromet. Blergh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 09, 2012, 10:38:04 AM
Geesh, debba! Feel better. I am SO thankful that I don't have that kind of reaction to allergens anymore. Mainly just itchy eyes, runny nose... I went through a period of back to back sinus infections for like a year and a half. The allegra has solved it for me. Hope the meds kick in earlier tonight for you!

Well, after a week of fun, food and no fitness (well, not the individual kind at least...  :groucho:) I went for a run last night. I didn't gain ANY this week! Woot! And that was with eating pretty much as I wanted and drinks most days. I tried not to go overboard and was mindful of cals in a general sense. I'm happy about that! The knee/IT band didn't hurt at all yesterday after running! Only 3 ART sessions and it's tons better. I'm going for another 3 miles tonight. :) I got back on the Jillian DVD horse this morning, too. I started with week 5 again since I didn't complete it right the first time around.

AS- is Turbo Fire the one you can get at the store? I've seen a program like that (at Linens and Things?) and wondered how it was.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 09, 2012, 10:49:42 AM
I am prepared and armed with a fridge full of veggies this week.  And beans.  And chicken.  And quinoa.

This is my last intense week of marathon training, my last 20 miler will be on Sunday.  I have a hilly 10 miler tomorrow and speedwork on Thursday first though.  I'm going to be tired, I'm going to be hungry.   I want to start this race feeling lean and trim and so I have to be disciplined, starting now.  Because I'm sure all hell will break loose while I'm tapering.   Cutting back on booze.   And mindless snacks. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 09, 2012, 11:30:33 AM
Ok... today was suppposed to be the day. But, this weekend was jam packed and I never got the chance to really prepare for the week (namely, making soup). So, I have my fiber cereal for breakfast and I think I'm going to make oatmeal for lunch, plus I have an apple and two cheese sticks. I'll have a bigger snack when I get home. Soup tonight!


Switched my OTC meds to Zyrtec, since it's supposed to be better for mold
Try taking it before you go to bed at night. Zyrtec does make me sleepy so I find that if I take it before I'm going to sleep anyway, it helps.


Ok, so I know the thread is probably totally somewhere else right now, but this is as far as I am in catching up from last week.... I must disagree with this. My diet is FULL of fiber. FULL. I love salad. It is one of my favorite things to eat! I eat mostly whole foods and I still could eat way more than I do when I'm watching cals. I find I stop naturally around 2000 cals if I don't consciously count. (Higher than my daily needs, I think.) Just wanted to comment here before I forgot my thoughts!

/back to catching up...

Oh, yeah, portion control is still necessary- no mater what you eat. But, you'll be more full/satisfied on 1200 (or whatever) calories of food that isn't going to spike your blood sugar. My point was more that I don't really think the diet industry (or the ff industry for that matter) is trying to get people addicted to their food so they will eat themselves fat. I just don't believe that. I *do* believe that those foods set off a reaction in your body which causes you to want to go back for more.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 09, 2012, 11:40:49 AM
I don't know if the food industry wants consumers to be fat, but I do think they want consumers addicted to their food products so that they will continue to buy the products.  It's all about profits.

I agree that certain foods set off reactions in your body which make you want to go back for more (at sometimes it does feel uncontrollable!) but food companies are VERY aware of what foods and food combinations (ie. salt, sugar, fat) trigger those cravings and purposefully engineer their products to to make "crave-able" foods.

There's a whole chapter in The End of Overeating by David Kessler about this.  He interviews a guy in the industry who is open about the fact that this engineering takes place.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 09, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
i resisted the cinnamon bun and threw it in the trash.  :P
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 09, 2012, 12:38:20 PM
i resisted the cinnamon bun and threw it in the trash.  :P

*high five*!  Cinnamon is gross anyway. No reason to waste hard earned calories on that!! :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 09, 2012, 12:39:17 PM
I don't know if the food industry wants consumers to be fat, but I do think they want consumers addicted to their food products so that they will continue to buy the products.  It's all about profits.

I agree that certain foods set off reactions in your body which make you want to go back for more (at sometimes it does feel uncontrollable!) but food companies are VERY aware of what foods and food combinations (ie. salt, sugar, fat) trigger those cravings and purposefully engineer their products to to make "crave-able" foods.

There's a whole chapter in The End of Overeating by David Kessler about this.  He interviews a guy in the industry who is open about the fact that this engineering takes place.

Yep.  Chips, for example. 

I ate way too many of them yesterday. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 09, 2012, 12:42:22 PM
*high five*!  Cinnamon is gross anyway. No reason to waste hard earned calories on that!! :D
cinnamon soaked in butter in a flaky warm pastry. actually, to be honest, it looked dried out and tough. I think DD was wise to pass on it.

and yeah, food is addictive. i think there is just so much sugar in everything now (even savory foods) so much variety, that evolutionarily, our bodies just want more and more. you know, to prepare for the famine  :eyeroll: i will be well prepared.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 09, 2012, 01:46:15 PM
I do take the Zyrtec at night - I just waited too long last night, so the one from Saturday night had already worn off before I took more yesterday.

Yeah, I know, it makes no sense. Basically, I need to take my Zyrtec right after dinner. And if I have to take cough syrup later, I just have to assume I won't be getting up to work out the next morning. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 09, 2012, 01:57:50 PM
Caito - good luck with managing the marathon training & eating well.  I'm starting to think about races and how my food needs to be better the week or two before hand.  Or at least a few days before for short races.

MM & Debba - sorry you've got such horrible allergies!  DH has been up every night the last week, sometimes multiple times, sneezing, being stopped up, etc.  It keeps us both up.

Lanarkshire - glad you got *some* exercise in.  hehe.  Sounds like it is going well for you at the moment!


So, last night was a bit hectic.  After dropping my brother off, I came home and went to the chest freezer to find something for dinner.  That is when I discovered our freezer was not working - it had been unplugged accidently when DH was doing something with the power almost a week ago!!  The freezer was packed FULL of meat and other things.  It was still cool/cold to the touch so it wasn't rotten, but was at the latest point of being used safely.   The bottom had several inches of blood soaking through the packs of meat...ugh.

We were up until 1:00 am cooking 50 lbs of meat.  27 lbs of ground beef, 8 lbs of cube steak, and there is 8 lbs of stew meat in the crock pot... there were other packs of different cuts that we converted to jerky or stir fry.  I lost some made-ahead crock pot meals I did a couple weeks ago, along with some bread dough.   We cooked 20 egg rolls and ate what we could (6!)...hopefully they'll be OK another day or two.  I've invited family over to help me eat stew beef.    My house stinks of meat!

All that plus the kids Easter toys scattered everywhere and my house is a disaster area.  I've got another big bowl of meat to be bagged & frozen, and I need a nap.

That is not how I recommend doing once-a-month-cooking!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 09, 2012, 02:03:14 PM
Bolloxd, OMG!!! I'd have lost it if I'd been up all night cooking. SO glad you caught it now rather than after things started to spoil, though. That would have been horrible.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 09, 2012, 03:30:22 PM
omg! that is horrible! DH unplugged our fridge down in the basement once by accident but all that was in there was some ice cream and veggie burgers.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 09, 2012, 04:39:12 PM
and i was going to say something about allergies! i take singulair in the morning and flonase and claritin at night. kinda spreads it out :D This is my severe allergy season protocol, otherwise, 1 claritin at night.

or you can take a benedryl at night and your allergy med in the morning. i take the singulair in the AM because a side effect is sleeplessness and when i was taking it at night i was having a hard time sleeping, but it could have been coincidence.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 09, 2012, 05:20:04 PM
I just emailed my Dr begging him for an asthma inhaler. I cannot stand it anymore.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 09, 2012, 07:11:16 PM
good luck with that MM.

i made this for dinner, it was tasty! http://ohsheglows.com/2011/08/04/high-protein-oil-free-basil-pesto/ (http://ohsheglows.com/2011/08/04/high-protein-oil-free-basil-pesto/)

the shirataki noodles were not, i tossed them and had about 1/4 portion of pasta and just ate the rest on a spoon. DD liked it too. i will have to find something creative to do wtih what was leftover.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 09, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
good luck with that MM.

i made this for dinner, it was tasty! http://ohsheglows.com/2011/08/04/high-protein-oil-free-basil-pesto/ (http://ohsheglows.com/2011/08/04/high-protein-oil-free-basil-pesto/)

the shirataki noodles were not, i tossed them and had about 1/4 portion of pasta and just ate the rest on a spoon. DD liked it too. i will have to find something creative to do wtih what was leftover.

In my opinion shiratake noodles suck for italian food but are decent for asian food...as long as you rinse the crap out of them. But I cannot eat them anymore anyway since they are soy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 09, 2012, 07:32:24 PM
I agree but it had been years since i ate them, blech
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 09, 2012, 07:36:22 PM
In my opinion shiratake noodles suck for italian food but are decent for asian food...as long as you rinse the crap out of them. But I cannot eat them anymore anyway since they are soy.

I agree. MM, I got some kep noodles at my healthfood store that are similar to shirataki but not made from soy. http://kelpnoodles.com/index.html (http://kelpnoodles.com/index.html)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 09, 2012, 08:11:51 PM
Orzo salad for dinner tonight. YUM.
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 09, 2012, 08:58:50 PM
Orzo salad for dinner tonight. YUM.

I need to make orzo salad! Possibly for next week's lunches.  :!:  What did you put in it? Was it hot or cold? I used to do a hot orzo dish with veggie broth, zucchini, carrots, onions and possibly some other veg. + adding some parm at the end (kind of like an orzo risotto). I got the original recipe from Rachael Ray and adapted it. Oh yeah, it had fresh parsley in it added at the end. Mmmmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 09, 2012, 09:27:56 PM
You cook the orzo, then rinse it and drain. While it's cooking, rinse/drain a can of black beans, a cup (or more) of thawed frozen corn, and chop up some green onions and some cherry tomatoes. Mix all that together and add the cooked orzo. Mix up 1/4 cup buttermilk, 2 tablespoons light sour cream, 2 tablespoons canola mayo, 3 tablespoons lime juice, 3 tablespoons cilantro, 1 teaspoon chili powder, 1/2 tsp. salt, 1/4 tsp. pepper and 1/4 tsp. ground red pepper. Pour that over the orzo mixture and stir. Top it with avocado.

And actually, don't quote me on those measurements - here's the actual recipe: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/orzo-salad-with-spicy-dressing-50400000112006/ (http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/orzo-salad-with-spicy-dressing-50400000112006/)

Ah, I forgot the garlic. That's why I said not to quote me. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 09, 2012, 09:46:18 PM
I still love my fitbit.. I really need to get serious about the logging the food though and using the syncing feature with my fitness pal.. It was hard over the weekend with various things, but I am back on track now.

I am averaging a little over 12,000 steps a day and let me tell you, that takes work!  On my regular workout days, say run 4-6 miles, I still need to get in quite a bit more movement to be there.. I'd love to be able to average 15,000 a day.. but we'll see..

On Sat I ran 8.6 and I think that came out to about 14k steps.. so you really have to do more than just your work out if it's only 40-60 minutes..

Today it was too windy at work to walk at lunch.. They are constructing a highway and a new building and there was crap flying all through the air, so we ran stairs inside and walked the long hallway.. crazy, but I needed the extra 4000 steps that got me. Then I went and did the elliptical at the gym and walked a bit..

Today I am so sore!  My daughter and I ran 4 miles of hills yesterday and then went to a TRX class down the street.. And score.. the person who was running the class forgot the correct keys and had to go back and get them and so we started 15 minutes late so she didn't charge us!  I am sore all over and I have done TRX before.. My daughter never has and she is more sore than I am I think.. but man, my abs are the most sore they have ever been.. I guess that's a good thing right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 09, 2012, 10:29:11 PM
Today was ok foodwise. I was feeling uninspired and had a lot of strawberries that needed to get used, like yesterday... so dinner was a big smoothie (nf fage, a frozen banana, strawberries, spirulina, and spinach). I need to go make soup but reeaaallly don't feel like it! Very tired today!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 09, 2012, 10:37:25 PM
You cook the orzo, then rinse it and drain. While it's cooking, rinse/drain a can of black beans, a cup (or more) of thawed frozen corn, and chop up some green onions and some cherry tomatoes. Mix all that together and add the cooked orzo. Mix up 1/4 cup buttermilk, 2 tablespoons light sour cream, 2 tablespoons canola mayo, 3 tablespoons lime juice, 3 tablespoons cilantro, 1 teaspoon chili powder, 1/2 tsp. salt, 1/4 tsp. pepper and 1/4 tsp. ground red pepper. Pour that over the orzo mixture and stir. Top it with avocado.

And actually, don't quote me on those measurements - here's the actual recipe: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/orzo-salad-with-spicy-dressing-50400000112006/ (http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/orzo-salad-with-spicy-dressing-50400000112006/)

Ah, I forgot the garlic. That's why I said not to quote me. :)

Thanks! Bookmarked. I might try subbing greek yogurt for the mayo though (maybe?)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 10, 2012, 07:43:22 AM
MoS- glad you are still liking it :) It was sooo windy. Everything blew off our deck, including DD's water play table!!!! I bought new patio furniture yesterday at Ikea and it is in the living room :D i was afraid of it blowing away the day i bought it.

yesterday was ok for eating.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on April 10, 2012, 10:41:09 AM
Why can you not weight yourself?  It seems to me that you could still measure the ups and downs from day to day.

Can't stand on the scale unassisted, and the cast weighs a ton.  I can't get anything close to an accurate weight, even from a new baseline.

Staying pretty well on target.  Eating plenty of yogurt for extra calcium.  Getting around on crutches provides some exercise - I'm trying to drink a lot of water so I have to get up often to use the bathroom.

Got briefly foiled this morning: after getting up to go to the bathroom, I slipped trying to get back into bed.  Landed on the floor, luckily on my well-padded butt.  Felt faint at first, partially because DH wasn't home from work yet, and wouldn't be home for at least 45 minutes.  But I managed to scoot to the top of the stairs and use the rail and a crutch to get back up.  That was a mini workout! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 10, 2012, 11:02:17 AM
Mini, I'm glad you were ok when you fell!  Yipes.  You need a houseboy to assist you.  A hot one.  :D

Meri, I hadn't thought about outdoor furniture from Ikea...  our table blew over this weekend and broke, badly.  So I'll have to look at Ikea! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 10, 2012, 11:24:25 AM
I have a pedometer. Now I wanna know how many steps I've taken. Maybe I'll try it out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 10, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
My i-pod has a pedometer but it definately does not do well with running. I ran 5 miles one night and it said I had taken 817 steps.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 10, 2012, 11:48:30 AM
I got a set at Ikea, 2 chairs, table and a bench for $99!!!!! DH was like, it is going to be a piece of crap, but i was like, for $99, if we use it for fire wood at the end of the season, we got our moneys worth :D :D :D It is on their website under seasonal i believe, or outdoors.

Mini- be careful!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 10, 2012, 12:29:45 PM
I got a set at Ikea, 2 chairs, table and a bench for $99!!!!! DH was like, it is going to be a piece of crap, but i was like, for $99, if we use it for fire wood at the end of the season, we got our moneys worth :D :D :D It is on their website under seasonal i believe, or outdoors.

Mini- be careful!!!!

That is a great price! I wish we could buy stuff like that but we always have to check weight limits on chairs. My man has a habit of breaking them...who knew most chairs had a 200 pound weight limit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 10, 2012, 12:44:47 PM
Ikea is not hefty bottom friendly!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 10, 2012, 01:05:59 PM
On the topic of durability- I have several pieces of furniture I bought at ikea when dd was born that are still going strong/look great. I also have a dining room table I bought there close to 10 years ago. It's solid wood and stained a dark color. We have chairs that match. The table looks good still but the chairs are starting to look a little worn (mostly dings which show the raw wood underneath). We always figured we'd get "real furniture" some day when the ikea stuff broke down- but so far so good.

As far as food goes. Today is day 2 of being back on plan. Sort of. Lunch out (pho) with a friend today. Dinner out with friends wednesday. Might have dinner out for a rescue event later this week. (sigh) Had breakfast this morning and now am quite full but am about to eat my 2 eggs as a morning snack anyway. If I can go into lunch feeling somewhat full I'm more likely to follow my plan (veggies, tofu, broth, only and maybe just a few noodles).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 10, 2012, 01:36:12 PM
i think if you buy the higher end stuff at Ikea it is more durable. When i opened my own practice i bought this lovely bench at ikea that was a SOB to put together. My friend and i wrestled terribly with it. anywho, at my open house, one of my dear patients came, she probably weighs around 350-450 lbs and sat on it and i held my breath :D it is still going strong all these years later and many big tushies later. this set would probably be big bottom friendly, but i am not a good judge of that stuff.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 10, 2012, 01:45:11 PM
I can't comment on their big-bottom suitability (although I'm sure our chairs have been sat upon by people over 200lbs) but in general, I've been pretty pleased with IKEA's durability.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 10, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
I can't comment on their big-bottom suitability (although I'm sure our chairs have been sat upon by people over 200lbs) but in general, I've been pretty pleased with IKEA's durability.

Most chairs have but I assure you that you don't realize they have a weight limit until it breaks. We have had (in the last year) 1 broken camping chair (mine  >:(), 2 broken office chairs, and a broken antique dining chair (someone thought he could stand on that one  >:(). None of these were ikea, by the way, but I now check weight limits on them and almost none of them go above 200-250. As an aside, neither do most ladders, except of course the really expensive ones.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 10, 2012, 02:18:24 PM
Holy shit, the scale was awful this morning. AWFUL. There's no possible way I ate that much. NO way. Not in 2 days (Sat and Sun).  :panic:

I'm doing okay today. Gym tonight. Run tomorrow. Still incredibly stuffed up from the allergies, but I no longer feel like I got run over, so that's an improvement.

Mini, be careful!! I was on crutches for a few days in college when I sprained my ankle. I've never had better-looking biceps. :)

Meri, I'll have to look at IKEA - I like a lot of their stuff. We didn't get Reid's crib there, but the shelving, dresser, and changing table in his room are IKEA, as are quite a few other things in our house. I'm always looking for ways to improve the backyard!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 10, 2012, 02:18:35 PM
I had a set of ikea chairs and a table and I moved them out to NS and then to BC and every move I took them apart and then put them back together.  The last move I put them together but did not use them right away. Then I invited people over for thanksgiving and when we sat down to dinner the table with the turkey on it and the chairs collapsed  :hah:  I find ikea stuff to be generally pretty sturdy though.  I love ikea!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 10, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
Our IKEA coffee table looks pretty "college dorm" but, at the same time, it's kind of nice because I don't care if Reid accidentally draws on it or climbs on it or we spill food or drinks. I'll clean them up, of course, but if something stained I wouldn't be heartbroken.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 10, 2012, 02:28:17 PM
Oh, and Lanarkshire, I'm not sure how that recipe would work with greek yogurt rather than the mayo, but I'll be curious to hear!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on April 10, 2012, 02:59:59 PM
So after eating too much at Easter, I am battling another epic round of mysterious abdominal pain.  I think it's from pasta.

A bag of Easter Reese's are taunting me in the breakroom right now...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 10, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
Our Ikea is over an hour away, so I just flip through the catalog a lot.  :d  Our end tables are from there and have been battered constantly by the kids...they have held up but look rough now.  I never paid attention to the weight limit issue, but that would totally explain the running joke with my Dad always breaking plastic lawn chairs!  They always get the cheapest possible chairs and they always break.

We took the kids to practice run a 5K course with them in the stroller.  Oh, how crazy we are.  Within 10 minutes Rachel wanted out (and therefore David).  So we pushed a stroller, carried one kid, and the other 'ran' along with us back toward the car.  We covered about 2 miles, but just proved that they couldn't manage to stay still for the length of a 5K.  Not yet anyway.

So now I'm planning on a 5K this Saturday by myself.  I did a test on the treadmill to get an idea of time.. 30:55.  Not great, but I'll happily take it.  And that was me really pushing.  I will have to be very diligent with my eating the next few days to stay fueled up.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 10, 2012, 03:36:30 PM
Bolloxd-- i had to DNF a 5K once because DD was flipping out. I also bought a fancy seat that goes on the bike in front of you, kangaroo seat it is called, the first time on the trail (we practiced at home on our street) she flipped out about 2 miles into a 6 mile bike ride. I had to push the bike while she walked and finally when we went about 1/2 mile in 45 minutes, i picked her up, strapped her in screaming and crying and pedalled as fast as i could :( never again did i try.


this is what we got:

(http://www.ikea.com/us/en/images/products/tullero-table-bench-and--armchairs__15346_PE099546_S4.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on April 10, 2012, 04:37:06 PM
So after eating too much at Easter, I am battling another epic round of mysterious abdominal pain.  I think it's from pasta.

A bag of Easter Reese's are taunting me in the breakroom right now...

You will fucking hate yourself if that wedding dress doesn't fit, I'm just saying.  No Reeses are worth that. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 10, 2012, 08:12:13 PM
came home from work late to a HUGE bowl of pasta DH made for everyone. I ate it. And a big helping of broccoli to fill up on.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 10, 2012, 08:22:49 PM
You cook the orzo, then rinse it and drain. While it's cooking, rinse/drain a can of black beans, a cup (or more) of thawed frozen corn, and chop up some green onions and some cherry tomatoes. Mix all that together and add the cooked orzo. Mix up 1/4 cup buttermilk, 2 tablespoons light sour cream, 2 tablespoons canola mayo, 3 tablespoons lime juice, 3 tablespoons cilantro, 1 teaspoon chili powder, 1/2 tsp. salt, 1/4 tsp. pepper and 1/4 tsp. ground red pepper. Pour that over the orzo mixture and stir. Top it with avocado.

And actually, don't quote me on those measurements - here's the actual recipe: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/orzo-salad-with-spicy-dressing-50400000112006/ (http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/orzo-salad-with-spicy-dressing-50400000112006/)

Ah, I forgot the garlic. That's why I said not to quote me. :)
I made this tonight and it was totally awesome!  Can I join this party?  I need to lose some of my fatness and you all are very fun to read.  I am really hoping in can pick up some of your good habits!    :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 10, 2012, 08:28:33 PM
I made this tonight and it was totally awesome!  Can I join this party?  I need to lose some of my fatness and you all are very fun to read.  I am really hoping in can pick up some of your good habits!    :)
welcome! :bouquet:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 10, 2012, 08:31:33 PM
Welcome Jules!! :)

Debba- I made a (faux) chicken salad for lunches this week and used plain greek yogurt in place of mayo. It's sooooo creamy and thick! I love it. If I do sub it, I'll report back to see how it goes. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 10, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
Plain greek yogurt really is a great substitute for sour cream.   It's got that creamy tang. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: radial on April 10, 2012, 08:50:16 PM
That is a great price! I wish we could buy stuff like that but we always have to check weight limits on chairs. My man has a habit of breaking them...who knew most chairs had a 200 pound weight limit.

I've bought a lot of crappy deck furniture over the years, but finally discovered the cast iron stuff.  You can get awesome chairs, gliders, tables, etc. at Home Depot or Lowes that last forever and no worries about "a few extra pounds." 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 10, 2012, 08:51:02 PM
hi Jules! Yes! Join us!

Cozymum, you still out there?
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Post by: Jamers86 on April 10, 2012, 09:07:48 PM
You will fucking hate yourself if that wedding dress doesn't fit, I'm just saying.  No Reeses are worth that.

I put them in a random drawer for us all to discover probably sometime late June.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: bensmom243 on April 10, 2012, 09:12:14 PM
I am going to be joining you all FOR REAL in about a week!  I really want to focus and drop the last chunk of weight to reach my goal.  I have a big family wedding to attend on August 31, and would like to be 20-25 lbs leaner by then (just ordered my dress).  First, I have to get through vacation next week!  We are visiting my parents in the Bahamas and I typically lose a little weight there so I am not too concerned. 

You all have been such an inspiration and I just love the daily check-ins. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 10, 2012, 10:04:51 PM
Welcome, Jules - anyone who tries and likes a recipe I post is more than welcome! :D

I got in a fender-bender on the way home from work. I'm fine - pissed at myself for letting it happen, even though I don't think I could have done anything to stop it. My gear shift thing in the car started making this weird clicking sound on the way home, though, sort of like something had come loose, so I dropped it off at the shop and DH had to pick Reid up from day care and then come get me. We ended up picking up Chick-fil-a on the way home. As badly as I wanted a giant-sized everything AND a dessert, I ended up getting the Southwestern Grilled Chicken salad instead. Kept my damn gym appointment, too. So that was a victory. I still want to drown myself in a pint of Ben & Jerry's, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on April 10, 2012, 10:19:17 PM
I went on an actual run today for 30 minutes.  Then I stopped at Baskin Robbins for a single scoop which I ate as I walked home.   :-[  It was good though.  The rest of my eating has been pretty good though.  I had a banana and some frosted mini wheats (dry) for breakfast, and lunch was a ham sandwich and a yogurt.  String cheese and cucumber/cherry tomatoes for a snack.  I'm still trying to decide what to make for dinner, but I'll probably end up with either a salad or a toasted cheese sandwich.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 10, 2012, 10:37:10 PM
ouch debba.  People, please be careful.  No more car accidents, ok?

I've been eating decently for Passover (not a light food holiday) but I ate a few coconut macaroons tonight -- weren't even that good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 11, 2012, 07:56:29 AM
I was so going to post in the running forum this morning and I failed to get myself out of bed to acutally go for the run.   Not off to a good start!  I will try to get my little 4 miles in after work.  The problem with after work is that I have a whole days worth of excuses why I can't possibly run after work..... :(

I weighed this morning and was down .4.  I am at least moving in the right direction.  Slooowwwwwwlllllyyyyyyy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 11, 2012, 08:07:13 AM
slowly but surely! i was planning on getting up at 5am to run, but i was up all night between DH and DD! WTF? My schedule is quiet at work and i should have an hour between work and picking DD up, so i should get a run in then. hopefully. unless someone schedules.

breakfast is my hardest meal to do. I want to stay low on carbs and sugar, but i can only eat so much scrambled tofu. i am not in an oatmeal mood lately. i could just eat a lunch type meal at breakfast, but what fun is that??
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 11, 2012, 08:30:44 AM
Ughh.. today is my huge workout day.. I have my group training at 6am and then track at night.. I knew my group training on Weds was going to be hard once track started.. Luckily the track workouts are in the building phase so we just run 30 seconds hard, 30 seconds easy for 30 times.. Last week with the warmups included it worked out a little more than 4 miles for me.

If we walk at lunch time though I could end up with close to 24,000 steps which is what I had last week.
I did 15 min off elliptical before the workout this morning.. she has us run laps in between sets.  My trainer remarked to me today that my arms are looking very musclular :buttpat:  Yeah!  Just in time for summer season..

She wants us to give her a goal next week for the next 4 weeks.  I'm torn between a weight loss goal or some kind of fitness goal, like buffed shoulders..

Try to be better about logging my food on my fitnesspal.. forgot my phone today so that's going to be hard.. I feel like my fitness and workouts are in a really good spot, now if I can just get a handle on the food...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 11, 2012, 08:36:18 AM
i am really upset no baby sitter at track until June!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 11, 2012, 08:38:12 AM
MoS -- it's impressive how you just got right back into the workouts!   You are killing it.   You do have muscle.  I bet if you drop a few more pounds, your muscle definition will be even more prominent.  Then again, a great way to help lower body fat is to lift weights, so I think your two goals go hand in hand.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 11, 2012, 09:08:42 AM
i am really upset no baby sitter at track until June!!!

Are you sure?  I thought Andi's daughter was there last week all prepared to babysit...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on April 11, 2012, 09:18:03 AM
Cool, lots of new people posting in here!

Good morning everyone.

I made it to my personal training yesterday am...we did 3 sets of dead lifts (not sure what the weight was), deep squats with 40 pounds, and crunches using this wedge thing at the small of my back. The she had me do supermans, some abs, and the high jumps on the bosu ball. I am starting to "feel it" this morning.
Food wise, I am doing okay as far as choices go but having issues reverting back to old portion sizes. So I guess that I need to refocus my disciple on that aspect of things.

This morning I am running before work...and my food plan is good so I hope to have a successful day all the way around.

I hope you all have a good day.  :bouquet:
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Post by: Jamers86 on April 11, 2012, 09:39:30 AM
Cool, lots of new people posting in here!

Good morning everyone.

1!

Still trying to fully recover from Easter.  I did okay calorie-wise, but I caved and ate too many Reese's.  I'm having some serious fat/sugar cravings.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 11, 2012, 10:27:38 AM
Are you sure?  I thought Andi's daughter was there last week all prepared to babysit...
really? i will email Andi. tracy's email said june.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 11, 2012, 12:29:54 PM
Well, yesterday wasn't awful. Stirfry at lunch- I didn't tell them "no rice" and ate maybe 1/2 cup of rice. Was still pretty full by dinner last night so had a smoothie instead, for the second day in a row. Went to sleep at like 8pm last night so still no soup for lunches so today I have an assortment of things... veggies and hummus, string cheese, eggs, yogurt & fruit- to snack on throughout the day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 11, 2012, 12:36:25 PM
So logging my food does make a difference.. I logged one mini babyruth.. 85 caloories!  Yowza.. and 2 mini nestlecrunch.. they were not as bad..

I'll think twice before I put my hand in the candy dish.. mindless calories that would amount to 500 before I know it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 11, 2012, 12:37:54 PM
That is for sure! I also think that when you're logging 85 calories feels like a lot... but in the grand scheme of things, it probably feels like not as much. Does that make sense? Like, "oh, less than 100 calories isn't going tomake a difference in my diet".
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on April 11, 2012, 12:44:45 PM
merigayle, how long have you been vegan and what is your reasoning?
If you don't mind me asking.

Just that it's so limiting.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 11, 2012, 12:48:14 PM
That is for sure! I also think that when you're logging 85 calories feels like a lot... but in the grand scheme of things, it probably feels like not as much. Does that make sense? Like, "oh, less than 100 calories isn't going tomake a difference in my diet".

YES.  This is my true downfall.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 11, 2012, 12:49:52 PM
merigayle, how long have you been vegan and what is your reasoning?
If you don't mind me asking.

Just that it's so limiting.
i have been vegetarian for about almost 20 years (gosh i am getting old!) and on and off again vegan during that time. Went back to being vegan after watching Forks Over Knives this past summer. It is not limiting, just limiting when i want to lose weight :D there are endless great breakfasts, but none really low carb, low sugar. yogurts all have sugar, baked goods carbs and sugar, etc.
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on April 11, 2012, 01:17:26 PM
So logging my food does make a difference.. I logged one mini babyruth.. 85 caloories!  Yowza.. and 2 mini nestlecrunch.. they were not as bad..

I'll think twice before I put my hand in the candy dish.. mindless calories that would amount to 500 before I know it!

I did that yesterday.  640 calories of stupid Reese's.  I had guessed around 250, so I guess it's good I checked.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 11, 2012, 01:43:53 PM
Thanks, diablita. I'm okay - a little sore today, but I also went to the gym last night, so I think my body's just having a big ol' "eff you" day. I ended up having a coughing spasm last night as I was trying to go to sleep, even though I'd taken cough syrup. Ended up using my inhaler and it seemed to help once it took effect. I'll have to remember that next time. Between the accident, the gym, the zyrtec, the cough syrup, the hacking cough episode, and the inhaler, I didn't get the best rest ever last night, so I didn't make my run this morning. I'm bummed about that, actually. I need some stress relief and I'm trying really hard to not get it via junk food.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 11, 2012, 02:09:03 PM
Good news - my car is fine. Whew. Now I really just want to go home and sleep.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 11, 2012, 02:12:22 PM
I am so friggin tired this week. I keep thinking I am coming down with something because my throat is scratchy and today I have a headache but I suspect it is just allergies. Ugh. I am seriously thinking it was a bad idea to move so close to the open space. Those fields of grasses a few hundred feet away from my house probably aren't helping.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 11, 2012, 02:21:18 PM
Allergies will knock me on my ass, MM. If I don't take something for them every day, I'm hosed. And, as evidenced by last week, if another allergen suddenly decides to join the party, what I'm already taking won't work.

I keep forgetting my nasonex in the morning. I need to get better about that because it really seems to help.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 11, 2012, 02:31:45 PM
Allergies will knock me on my ass, MM. If I don't take something for them every day, I'm hosed. And, as evidenced by last week, if another allergen suddenly decides to join the party, what I'm already taking won't work.

I keep forgetting my nasonex in the morning. I need to get better about that because it really seems to help.

I take my nasonex religiously but I have yet to find a pill that allows me to function in a no zombielike state (even when I take them before bed  >:(). I did get an inhaler prescrition yesterday though so hopefully that will help my runs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 11, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
Zyrtec had me in a fog all day on Saturday, but I seem to have adjusted and I think it's helping. I had to use my inhaler last night, though, for the coughing spasm. I don't know why I'd never tried that before...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on April 11, 2012, 02:38:45 PM
Sorry everyone with allergies.  I know it has been bad so far this year.

I'm staying on track so far.  Stayed within my calories and yoga yesterday.  So far calories are OK today, I had a big salad for lunch and also went for 30 minutes on treadmill at the gym.  I think since I kicked it into gear for real I've lost about 7 pound.  That is since the beginning of March.  I'm very happy about it, but still have 10 or so I'd like to lose by early June.

Sorry if this is poorly written. While I love my new iPhone, my typing isn't so hot.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 11, 2012, 02:39:50 PM
Zyrtec had me in a fog all day on Saturday, but I seem to have adjusted and I think it's helping. I had to use my inhaler last night, though, for the coughing spasm. I don't know why I'd never tried that before...

Yes...I intend to use the inhaler for coughing fits too. I get them when I get up in the morning and when I try to run outside.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 11, 2012, 02:47:37 PM
Squeezed in a tm run today but after 30 mins i felt faint and stopped :( eating an apple now. I ate lunch not that long ago, sleep deprivation?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on April 11, 2012, 03:04:16 PM
Zyrtec had me in a fog all day on Saturday, but I seem to have adjusted and I think it's helping. I had to use my inhaler last night, though, for the coughing spasm. I don't know why I'd never tried that before...

My workouts lately have sucked.  I immediately thought of you this morning when I realized it's because of my Zyrtec fog.  Fuggin allergies.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 11, 2012, 03:29:54 PM
debba - glad you are OK!
meri - could it be dehydration? If I get dizzy/weak on the tm it is either lack of water or food, or sometimes it is just too hot indoors.

DH has started taking Vitamin C for his allergies - just started today and he is noticing an improvement.  Just a thought.  He's pretty desperate at the moment so he's trying everything we have.

I'm on edge today for some reason.  I had a quick frenzy cleaning session because the house is/was utterly ridiculous and the lack of help from DH is bugging me.  I still have a lot to do, but my energy level has dropped.  I need to get myself going again and finish freezing the last of the freezer meat.

Also - welcome to the new posters!  Good job on your progress so far...keep up the good work!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 11, 2012, 03:49:15 PM
I take my nasonex religiously but I have yet to find a pill that allows me to function in a no zombielike state (even when I take them before bed  >:(). I did get an inhaler prescrition yesterday though so hopefully that will help my runs.

Allegra 180 (taken in the morning)! No zombie-ness. (Don't get the Allegra-D, though. That one does have decongestant in it.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 11, 2012, 04:17:04 PM
maybe dehydration, but i drank my big bottle of water and then some prior to my run and was sipping on the run. i felt sorry for myself and ate a piece of croissant from the Panera box  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Kumbaya on April 11, 2012, 04:56:24 PM
How on earth did this overtake my judgey bike thread?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on April 11, 2012, 05:08:32 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 11, 2012, 05:15:46 PM
Yes...I intend to use the inhaler for coughing fits too. I get them when I get up in the morning and when I try to run outside.

I use the inhaler before a run, but for some reason it had never occurred to me to try it during a coughing fit. I'm a dumbass. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 11, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
maybe dehydration, but i drank my big bottle of water and then some prior to my run and was sipping on the run. i felt sorry for myself and ate a piece of croissant from the Panera box  :grr:

Don't feel bad! Your body was obviously needing something and you responded
  I generally grab some M&Ms immediately post run if I feel weak.  It helps!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 11, 2012, 06:42:12 PM
Allegra 180 (taken in the morning)! No zombie-ness. (Don't get the Allegra-D, though. That one does have decongestant in it.)

Unfortunatley I tried that one a few years ago. It also resulted in zombie. i think I am particularly sensitive or something.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 11, 2012, 07:11:25 PM
I went kite flying w DD and got quite a workout doing hill repeats!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 11, 2012, 08:08:08 PM
I've never even heard of Allegra 180. Luckily, the Zyrtec haze seems to have worn off a bit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 11, 2012, 08:31:51 PM
I am so thankful I don't have any allergy problems.  Sorry for all of you that are suffering, I know it sucks because I see my DH all jacked up because of it.

My eating has been ok today (except for those damn peanut m&m's) and I did manage to get out and do my scheduled 4 miles.  Kettle bell workout in the morning and hopefully 4 miles after work.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 11, 2012, 09:37:21 PM
nice work Jules!

I never had allergies until last spring and they hit me hard.  I take Zyrtec and it helps enough for me to not mind the rest of the symptoms.  It makes me a little sleepy but not too bad -- is it possible there are different dosages?

I was really really good today about eating and running.  We even went to Cracker Barrel tonight after my DD's gymnastics class and I ate some scrambled egg beaters and a salad, no croutons (or bacon).  but now I'm eating chocolate chip macaroons.  Please tell me to cut it out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 11, 2012, 09:48:35 PM
Hmmm, I don't know if there are different dosages or not. I just take the OTC generic version.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Tim on April 11, 2012, 09:54:38 PM
How on earth did this overtake my judgey bike thread?

I think we should merge the two.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 11, 2012, 09:56:17 PM
Hmmm, I don't know if there are different dosages or not. I just take the OTC generic version.

Yeah, I don't remember seeing more than one dosage either. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2012, 12:51:20 AM
5.35 miles tonight on the treadmill in an hour. One of my best runs in a VERY long time.


Eating wasn't so great. I went to Brazilian food for lunch and I dont even want to know how many points it was.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2012, 07:22:49 AM
so DH went to the dr thinking he had severe allergies, came home with antibiotics and a dx of either bronchitis or walking pneumonia  :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 12, 2012, 08:34:18 AM
so DH went to the dr thinking he had severe allergies, came home with antibiotics and a dx of either bronchitis or walking pneumonia  :yikes:

Oh no.. Make sure he rests up...

I don't know if it's the fitbit or what but I weighed two pounds less than I weighed last week and to be honest, I haven't really been trying, but I think just using it and even logging 75% of my food makes me more conscious of what I am putting in my mouth.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2012, 08:57:30 AM
way to go MoS!!!!!

I made a totally different tofu scramble recipe and it is soooooooo good. So i can do this for a couple days and enjoy it :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 12, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
way to go MoS!!!!!

I made a totally different tofu scramble recipe and it is soooooooo good. So i can do this for a couple days and enjoy it :)

I need your recipe ideas. I want to try it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2012, 09:22:42 AM
I need your recipe ideas. I want to try it!
http://happyherbivore.com/2008/10/basic-tofu-scramble/ (http://happyherbivore.com/2008/10/basic-tofu-scramble/)

sheesh. get on pinterest and follow my recipes!!!!

I started the recipe sauteing some sweet onion diced, then added mushrooms and diced carrots, then once that was all soft, i added the tofu and the rest of the stuff. i added a little extra dijon as well. oh, i also threw a little frozen corn in there. It was really good! most recipes i make are laden with curry powder, and it gets boring fast.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Roach on April 12, 2012, 10:03:16 AM
so my experimentation with the paleo diet has been on-going for 3+ months and I really do feel better.

I just got blood drawn yesterday so we'll see how my numbers look compared to last year.

and mrs oache is making her own kefir waters at home..........strange stuff, it is.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 10:16:40 AM
Oh no.. Make sure he rests up...

I don't know if it's the fitbit or what but I weighed two pounds less than I weighed last week and to be honest, I haven't really been trying, but I think just using it and even logging 75% of my food makes me more conscious of what I am putting in my mouth.

Yay!

I got mine all and wore it last night while I slept.  It says I woke up 21 times.   :yikes:

How do I connect with you, MoS (and anyone else who has one)?  Thru the website?  I love that it wirelessly sends data when it's near the docking thing.  That's at home, so I won't really know much until I get home.  Except, I think it tells me steps and stuff on there, right?

Do I need to do something special before a workout?  Like set it some way, like I did before I went to sleep?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 12, 2012, 10:34:34 AM
http://happyherbivore.com/2008/10/basic-tofu-scramble/ (http://happyherbivore.com/2008/10/basic-tofu-scramble/)

sheesh. get on pinterest and follow my recipes!!!!

I started the recipe sauteing some sweet onion diced, then added mushrooms and diced carrots, then once that was all soft, i added the tofu and the rest of the stuff. i added a little extra dijon as well. oh, i also threw a little frozen corn in there. It was really good! most recipes i make are laden with curry powder, and it gets boring fast.



Thanks! I am on pinterest... It's blocked here at work, though. I will look when I get home. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 12, 2012, 10:44:17 AM
Yay!

I got mine all and wore it last night while I slept.  It says I woke up 21 times.   :yikes:

How do I connect with you, MoS (and anyone else who has one)?  Thru the website?  I love that it wirelessly sends data when it's near the docking thing.  That's at home, so I won't really know much until I get home.  Except, I think it tells me steps and stuff on there, right?

Do I need to do something special before a workout?  Like set it some way, like I did before I went to sleep?

Send me a request through the website.. Put my email in and invite me..

As far as setting... Nope.. You need to hold the button down for two seconds before you go to sleep and then when you wake up again 2 seconds and that should put it in step mode... You can press the button through the course of the day to see steps/calories/distance floors... the only thing you really don't get is the sync by not uploading is the sync to myfitnesspal which would tell you if you earned extra calories to eat...

I am still obsessed with mine.. people at work and track think I'm nots!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 12, 2012, 11:31:46 AM
Fitbit question!   Do you think it tracks calorie burn well if you do a weight lifting workout?  Or does fitbit really work by counting steps? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 12, 2012, 11:35:24 AM
Dinner with friends last night. I may have eaten an entire plate of gnochi to my self.  :yikes: Oh... and 3 glasses of wine. Also, I learned I am no longer a three glasses of wine in one night kind of person. Oy!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 11:38:05 AM
Fitbit question!   Do you think it tracks calorie burn well if you do a weight lifting workout?  Or does fitbit really work by counting steps? 

I'm not sure...  I looked at the forums a bit, and it seems to not be clear.  I am doing a weight workout today, so after I sync tonight I might know a bit more.  I understand it works great for walking and running, and if you put it on the leg of your bike shorts when biking.  But I'm not sure about lifting.  I'll let you know the result of my test today. 

MoS, I'll look for that on the site :)  I kind of wish I had the base here at work now, so it was syncing with the website more often.  But I did just walk over to our other building, entirely to get more steps :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 12, 2012, 11:44:38 AM
Fitbit question!   Do you think it tracks calorie burn well if you do a weight lifting workout?  Or does fitbit really work by counting steps? 

Caito - it won't track your calorie burn for lifting - you have to manually add that into either Fitbit or MFP if that is what you are using.  And just for the record, I ride quite a bit and it isn't accurate for that, either.  After a 26 mile ride it gave me 3,000 steps. >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 11:56:20 AM
Caito - it won't track your calorie burn for lifting - you have to manually add that into either Fitbit or MFP if that is what you are using.  And just for the record, I ride quite a bit and it isn't accurate for that, either.  After a 26 mile ride it gave me 3,000 steps. >:(

That's good to know.  Did you put it on the leg of your bike shorts?  I'm going to try it on Saturday at my spin class. 

Do you want to be friends on there? 

edited to remove my email address :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 12, 2012, 12:10:58 PM
I am friending you now!  I did put it on the leg of my shorts, but then I heard on the waistband actually worked better.  I am spinning in the morning so I will try it on my waist and report back.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 12:15:17 PM
I am friending you now!  I did put it on the leg of my shorts, but then I heard on the waistband actually worked better.  I am spinning in the morning so I will try it on my waist and report back.



Sweet!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2012, 12:17:59 PM
Because of y'all I busted out my ipod pedometer to see what my commute is. I am at 1200 and I just got on the train.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 12, 2012, 12:21:04 PM
Yay MM!  But I am at 6036.   :P
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 12:21:48 PM
I'm at like 1500 :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 12, 2012, 12:25:12 PM
I am friending you now!  I did put it on the leg of my shorts, but then I heard on the waistband actually worked better.  I am spinning in the morning so I will try it on my waist and report back.



Will I be able to friend her thruogh you? Does your list of friends show up since we're friends? 

Courtney.. send me your email and I'll friend you!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 12, 2012, 12:33:30 PM
yes, she can click on you through me. 

RA - are you wearing your pedometer?  We will need a step update!   :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2012, 12:43:34 PM
Yay MM!  But I am at 6036.   :P

I suspect I live in a different time zone.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 12:51:12 PM
Will I be able to friend her thruogh you? Does your list of friends show up since we're friends? 

Courtney.. send me your email and I'll friend you!

I sent you a friend request thing there :) 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 12, 2012, 02:03:54 PM
I am at 1001
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2012, 02:07:01 PM
This is really good for me. I used to always take the stairs no matter what but I have gotten really lazy. I normally encounter 7 flights of stairs on my way to work and I usually skip 2 of them and take the escalater. Today I took them all and then I had another 12 flights to go drop something off at the other building that I would gnerally take the elevator for but I walked them instead. Rebuilding good habits! I am now at 3500 by 11AM just in usual daily activities. Not bad considering my workout isn't until tonight (5.5 miles planned).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 12, 2012, 02:17:35 PM
So what is the deal with 10k steps a day?  Is that number supposed to be good for weight loss or health or what?  If you all keep talking about this I will buy and then never use one so I need to know if it is worth it  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
So what is the deal with 10k steps a day?  Is that number supposed to be good for weight loss or health or what?  If you all keep talking about this I will buy and then never use one so I need to know if it is worth it  :D

It is the amount of exercise reccomended by all kinds of health advocacy groups on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 12, 2012, 02:47:02 PM
So what is the deal with 10k steps a day?  Is that number supposed to be good for weight loss or health or what?  If you all keep talking about this I will buy and then never use one so I need to know if it is worth it  :D
I love mine! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 03:32:58 PM
So what is the deal with 10k steps a day?  Is that number supposed to be good for weight loss or health or what?  If you all keep talking about this I will buy and then never use one so I need to know if it is worth it  :D

It kind of started with Dr. James Hill and America on the Move.  They started getting the word out that 10,000 steps a day + small diet changes could make a big health impact. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2012, 03:39:53 PM
i ran 5 miles today, does that count for anything? how many steps is that? i am slow, so probably more steps than the average runner :D

oh and when i start two a day workouts next week i am afraid of insane hunger, how should i prepare for that?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
i ran 5 miles today, does that count for anything? how many steps is that? i am slow, so probably more steps than the average runner :D

oh and when i start two a day workouts next week i am afraid of insane hunger, how should i prepare for that?

5 miles is, in theory, about 10,000 steps :)  Of course it counts!!

I don't have good advice for you on the other part.  I struggle with being hungry all day on the days I teach spin at 5:30 am.  It's like I never get ahead of it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 12, 2012, 03:53:51 PM
I think you all will appreciate this humourous post from Jezebel: 

 http://jezebel.com/5901446/the-worlds-first-100-foolproof-guide-to-losing-weight-and-keeping-it-off?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://jezebel.com/5901446/the-worlds-first-100-foolproof-guide-to-losing-weight-and-keeping-it-off?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2012, 03:55:37 PM
that was funny :D

yeah, i am already always hungry. i cannot imagine.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 12, 2012, 04:02:28 PM
When I swim I get so hungry I start daydreaming about hunting and eating my CW's.

I totally agree that moving all day helps a lot.  Growing up I thought I had one of those super fast metabolisms but it turns out I just lived on a farm  :hah: So are you supposed to walk 10k and also exercise or can it be included.  This is a round about way of asking how many "steps" is something like yoga?  See this is why I can't do this obsessive tracking stuff.  It drives me nuts even in theory  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 12, 2012, 04:14:25 PM
Hee!  Thanks caito!  :D

Ya'll are making me want a fitbit, but I don't have the extra cash.  I'll just try to cover 5 miles every day...chasing twins is helpful with weight loss.


I did a 3.1 mile run as another test for Saturday's 5K.  Man did that suck....my knee wasn't happy, I felt hot, couldn't get going & just blah.  I'm hoping the cool-ish weather Sat morning will help.  I did my abs & push-ups test.  I can actually do 33 REAL PROPER PUSH-UPS!  Very thrilled about that.  Still not 50, but a nice leap from my initial 12.


I am panicking a bit over food/nutrition for the 5K.  Anyone have any tips for food?   On any day I run I'm usually starving too.  Very hard to overcome.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2012, 04:25:09 PM
nutrition for the 5K? like before, during, after ?>

Did you see my post here yesterday about kite flying? OMG! I got such a workout running up and down the big hill at our house trying to get the kite off the ground!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 04:51:35 PM
33 real pushups?  RAWR!!!  THat's awesome. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Roach on April 12, 2012, 04:51:40 PM
i ran 5 miles today, does that count for anything? how many steps is that? i am slow, so probably more steps than the average runner :D

oh and when i start two a day workouts next week i am afraid of insane hunger, how should i prepare for that?

figure on about 140-180 steps/minute when you run........
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2012, 05:13:26 PM
figure on about 140-180 steps/minute when you run........
7420-9540 steps then. and it was super hilly. i ran all those lovely hills today except half of the monster hill.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Roach on April 12, 2012, 05:17:05 PM
7420-9540 steps then. and it was super hilly. i ran all those lovely hills today except half of the monster hill.

I have no hills...........I walk up 6 flights of stairs to my office.........a few times/day.........
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 12, 2012, 05:18:01 PM
Meri, all of the above! Entire day before, breakfast that day, and even after.  Mainly my goal is to not feel weak during the run...that is what worries me.  Also not wanting to puke whatever I ate.

Thanks Courtney!  :)   It's taken me 4 months to get that far.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 12, 2012, 05:26:47 PM
Food - good today. I'm starving right now, though, which is kind of a bummer. At the same time, it's almost time to go home, so I can hold out 30 more minutes. Supposed to go to the gym tonight, but I'm debating. I'm sore from both the gym AND the car wreck the other night.  :-\ Last night I was so sore that I took 3 Advil and laid on a hot rice sock thing for 30 minutes before bed. It helped, but there are very definitely still some twinges.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 12, 2012, 05:33:00 PM
Because of y'all I busted out my ipod pedometer to see what my commute is. I am at 1200 and I just got on the train.

Which one do you use?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 05:38:26 PM
Food - good today. I'm starving right now, though, which is kind of a bummer. At the same time, it's almost time to go home, so I can hold out 30 more minutes. Supposed to go to the gym tonight, but I'm debating. I'm sore from both the gym AND the car wreck the other night.  :-\ Last night I was so sore that I took 3 Advil and laid on a hot rice sock thing for 30 minutes before bed. It helped, but there are very definitely still some twinges.

Is it too hot for a hot bath?  It sounds like it would do you good.  Take a rest day, you were just in a car wreck!  Your body is healing. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 12, 2012, 05:45:21 PM
OMG, a hot bath sounds heavenly. I may try that. I didn't have a chance yesterday, but I should tonight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2012, 05:54:24 PM
Which one do you use?

Just the one that came standard on my i-pod mini. I also have one going on a phone app in my other pocket so I can see how the two compare.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2012, 05:56:39 PM
Meri, all of the above! Entire day before, breakfast that day, and even after.  Mainly my goal is to not feel weak during the run...that is what worries me.  Also not wanting to puke whatever I ate.

Thanks Courtney!  :)   It's taken me 4 months to get that far.

i would have a nice dinner the night before with pasta or something with rice, but no need to overdo it portion wise, familiar and bland foods. Morning of I always like to eat toast or a bagel or oatmeal or a muffin, again, something carby but bland. During a 5K you do not really need any calories during the race, unless you feel like you will, then maybe a baggie of animal crackers or a granola bar. After, a nice choc soy milk or choc milk is good, or an ensure. I like to have protein + carbs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 12, 2012, 05:58:46 PM
I'm at about 4400 just from my normal work day.  We did not walk at lunch and I did go to the downstairs bathroom when I had to go and made a ton of trips to the copier.  I'm getting ready to go for a run as soon as I change my laundry.. I'm tired but If I can manage to squeak out even 3-4 miles I should hit 10k at least.. which is a good thing because I went out to lunch and had a grilled chicken sandwich with blue cheese and onions and french fries :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2012, 06:07:10 PM
i walk a lot at work, i wore a pedometer years ago at my old office, and it was calibrated, etc, and it said i walked, on average, 2-3 miles a day!!!! this is when i worked longer days than now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 12, 2012, 07:14:30 PM
Hee!  Thanks caito!  :D

Ya'll are making me want a fitbit, but I don't have the extra cash.  I'll just try to cover 5 miles every day...chasing twins is helpful with weight loss.


I did a 3.1 mile run as another test for Saturday's 5K.  Man did that suck....my knee wasn't happy, I felt hot, couldn't get going & just blah.  I'm hoping the cool-ish weather Sat morning will help.  I did my abs & push-ups test.  I can actually do 33 REAL PROPER PUSH-UPS!  Very thrilled about that.  Still not 50, but a nice leap from my initial 12.


I am panicking a bit over food/nutrition for the 5K.  Anyone have any tips for food?   On any day I run I'm usually starving too.  Very hard to overcome.

OMG!  33 pushups is amazing.  I was just doing pushups while leaning on the counter top and I did a sorry 11 (all the while my DH analyzed my form) !  Your are a machine!  :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 12, 2012, 07:17:56 PM
Deb - you should rest for a bit before you jump back into working out!

I think everyone should dust off their pedometers and we will get the stepping party started!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 12, 2012, 07:19:08 PM
Just got back from my run.. 4 easy miles.. I was at around 4500 when I started and ended at around 11,500, so after my run, I walked to the end of the street and back so I could get past 12000. The fit bit makes you crazy! 

I still have laundry to do and some cleaning, which will probably add a few more hundred but I'm mostly going to be couching it the rest of the night watching hockey
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 12, 2012, 07:20:11 PM
i would have a nice dinner the night before with pasta or something with rice, but no need to overdo it portion wise, familiar and bland foods. Morning of I always like to eat toast or a bagel or oatmeal or a muffin, again, something carby but bland. During a 5K you do not really need any calories during the race, unless you feel like you will, then maybe a baggie of animal crackers or a granola bar. After, a nice choc soy milk or choc milk is good, or an ensure. I like to have protein + carbs.

Bollox, I agree with merigayle.   Include some pasta or potato or rice with dinner, but don't overeat.  Drink water the day before.   In the morning, I like a bowl of plain oatmeal and peanut butter or a pb&j sandwich.   And water.   And coffee.

I have learned the hard way that cereal with milk or walnuts are NOT good pre-run foods for me. 

I bet you're going to have a great race.  Something awesome happens on race day that you cannot re-create in training.  Your adrenaline kicks in and I bet you will surprise yourself.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2012, 07:23:29 PM
Bollox, I agree with merigayle.   Include some pasta or potato or rice with dinner, but don't overeat.  Drink water the day before.   In the morning, I like a bowl of plain oatmeal and peanut butter or a pb&j sandwich.   And water.   And coffee.

I have learned the hard way that cereal with milk or walnuts are NOT good pre-run foods for me. 

I bet you're going to have a great race.  Something awesome happens on race day that you cannot re-create in training.  Your adrenaline kicks in and I bet you will surprise yourself.  :)

I would also avoid eggs. I always find that bananas are good pre race food for me, especially for shorter distance.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 12, 2012, 07:29:34 PM
Oh yeah, bananas are GREAT.     
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2012, 07:42:37 PM
Eggs make u poop!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2012, 07:44:37 PM
Eggs make u poop!!!

They also make me burp up nasty eggyness.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 12, 2012, 07:45:14 PM
Eggs make u poop!!!

I usually eat an egg and cheese on english muffin with no adverse effects!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2012, 07:47:25 PM
Looks like I am going to make 10k before my run tonight so I should be over 20K for the day. You would think I would be skinny not fat since I get this much exercise.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 12, 2012, 08:54:51 PM
Looks like I am going to make 10k before my run tonight so I should be over 20K for the day. You would think I would be skinny not fat since I get this much exercise.  :sigh:

Well report back on your total!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 12, 2012, 09:27:53 PM
Off for a hot bath.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 12, 2012, 09:32:04 PM
Off for a hot bath.

Enjoy! I hope it helps with the soreness. :)

Well, I did nothing today. I was awake way early (thank you, Bladder.) but mentally, just didn't want to do my Jillian workout. :( And no run after work either. It was nice and cool, too. We're doing state testing at work which means a very intense schedule. It's really exhausting! Will try again tomorrow.... Food was ok, too. I went over a bit (since no exercise), but I'm ok with that. It was salad and avocado and stuff. :)
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Post by: onawhim on April 12, 2012, 09:35:34 PM
Off for a hot bath.

take care of yourself debba  :hug:
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Post by: diablita on April 12, 2012, 10:13:04 PM
yes, gentle  :hug: for debba
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 12, 2012, 10:18:23 PM
Thanks, everyone. The bath worked wonders. I'm still sore, but it's workout soreness - I'm pretty sure the wreck didn't do anything to my hamstrings - not car-wreck soreness. A good night's sleep will help, too, I'm sure.

Courtney is a genius!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 12, 2012, 11:20:45 PM
Oh, lots of good tips.  Thanks so much ladies!   :bouquet:

Tons of DFW tomorrow and some pasta with veggies for dinner.  I should really get to bed early too.  That's another tough one for me lately.

Debba - glad the bath helped.  I *love* really hot baths with some epsom salt.  It works wonders.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 12, 2012, 11:34:32 PM
Thanks, everyone. The bath worked wonders. I'm still sore, but it's workout soreness - I'm pretty sure the wreck didn't do anything to my hamstrings - not car-wreck soreness. A good night's sleep will help, too, I'm sure.

Courtney is a genius!

:D 

Get some good sleep, Debba. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 13, 2012, 12:28:08 AM
Well report back on your total!

A little over 10K for the workday plus 5.5 miles of running (didnt use the ped because I cant carry it) so I would say safely over 20k.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 13, 2012, 07:03:11 AM
wow!  now you have me tempted to track this.  lol

I am so tired of Passover at this point.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 13, 2012, 07:17:04 AM
Debba- next time throw some epsom salt in the bath, even better :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 13, 2012, 08:20:46 AM
First spin class in a really long time this morning.  Wow.  Now I am starving - I have to stay on track today!  I clipped my fitbit to my leg and logged 5600 steps.  Going to be a good day.

Goodluck Bollox!!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 13, 2012, 08:24:33 AM
wow! that's a lot of steps for your class. Spinning is something I never really could get the hang of. DH bought a spin bike and i still have issues.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 13, 2012, 08:32:14 AM
I am so sad I forgot to wear my fitbit to work today!  I usually sleep with it and put it right on, but I had it on the charging station so it would be fully loaded before I went to NYC for the weekend and I forgot to stick it on my bra :(

I'm not going to be able to run this weekend, my sister has the two days jam packed with activities, but hopefully we can do a lot of walking.. we have museums and plays scheduled for the whole time, but I told her if we had time I'd like to walk across the Brooklyn Bridge.. I always see people doing that on TV (Real Housewives of NYC, Sex in the city) and it looks like it would be fun!

Maybe I can hit her work out room or the walkway by the river if I get up early.  The thing is we are taking the bus and then going right from there tonight to walk around and stuff so I am trying to pack in a back pack and not sure what I can fit in there..

Oh well.. It will be a fun weekend and hopefully the walking will offset any NYC eating we do. With activities jam packed we won't have time for a lot of snacking and will be busy and not thinking of food!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 13, 2012, 09:18:14 AM
Yeah, I realized as I was getting *out* of the tub that I have a giant bag of epsom salt under my bathroom sink. D'oh! Oh well. Next time! Feeling much better this morning. Still dealing with allergies, but they're much better and I got some decent sleep last night, even though I could use another 8 hours. :) And the scale was down this morning, too! Woot!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 13, 2012, 09:33:25 AM
You can get a pedometer app?  Now that I might try. 
Have a great trip to NYC MoS!  Is this the sister from TO?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 13, 2012, 10:06:53 AM
You can get a pedometer app?  Now that I might try. 
Have a great trip to NYC MoS!  Is this the sister from TO?

No.. I have 3 sisters and one lives in Manhattan.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on April 13, 2012, 11:44:11 AM
Have fun MOS! Make sure she takes you to the Highline. And walk over the Brooklyn Bridge, and the promenade. There is some great pizza on the Brooklyn side.  It's going to be a nice warm weekend.

Epsom salts rock!
I bought one of those little straps with the pressure pad that goes under your knee and it really seems to have helped my knee soreness and I can run so I am really happy because I really can't stand being inside to use the elliptical.

Down 1.6 at WI today, for a total of 24.8 damn .2!! But my clothes weigh at least that so if anyone asks I call it 25 :)

I've been staying mostly to my points allowance and knocked out most alcohol hard as that is for me! Well I did use all but 17 of my WPA.
If I don't drink beer or vodka martini's it's pretty easy for me to stay within my points. I do the 29 though not the 26. I think the 26 would be too tough and as long as I am losing ......screw that I exercise at least 5 days usually 6 and usually two of those are for 2-3 hours or in the case of a long hike even more.
I even followed the Simply Filling for two days. It's when I have to figure in 5 to 7 points for a drink that it becomes hard. DOH!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 13, 2012, 12:08:50 PM
Have fun MOS! Make sure she takes you to the Highline. And walk over the Brooklyn Bridge, and the promenade. There is some great pizza on the Brooklyn side.  It's going to be a nice warm weekend.

Epsom salts rock!
I bought one of those little straps with the pressure pad that goes under your knee and it really seems to have helped my knee soreness and I can run so I am really happy because I really can't stand being inside to use the elliptical.

Down 1.6 at WI today, for a total of 24.8 damn .2!! But my clothes weigh at least that so if anyone asks I call it 25 :)

I've been staying mostly to my points allowance and knocked out most alcohol hard as that is for me! Well I did use all but 17 of my WPA.
If I don't drink beer or vodka martini's it's pretty easy for me to stay within my points. I do the 29 though not the 26. I think the 26 would be too tough and as long as I am losing ......screw that I exercise at least 5 days usually 6 and usually two of those are for 2-3 hours or in the case of a long hike even more.
I even followed the Simply Filling for two days. It's when I have to figure in 5 to 7 points for a drink that it becomes hard. DOH!!

I'm hoping to do the Brooklyn Bridge but she's got us all booked up.. Sat at 11:30 tenenment museum, Sat night theater and Sunday 9/11 memorial. This was supposed to be a 3 day weekend in Feb, but we rescheduled it when they were giving that award in honor of my brother.. and we could only reschedule for 2 days.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on April 13, 2012, 12:35:31 PM
I'm hoping to do the Brooklyn Bridge but she's got us all booked up.. Sat at 11:30 tenenment museum, Sat night theater and Sunday 9/11 memorial. This was supposed to be a 3 day weekend in Feb, but we rescheduled it when they were giving that award in honor of my brother.. and we could only reschedule for 2 days.

9/11 Memorial is not going to take that long, been there. It's an hour to look at the wall, walk through the gift shop. The museum is not open yet.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 13, 2012, 01:18:39 PM
Have fun, MOS!!!

Allergy people - have your allergy symptoms ever included general body aches and your skin hurting? I'd swear I had a cold or the flu, but the symptoms aren't getting any worse (or better), and there's no fever, so I'm thinking allergies, but I'm not sure. I'm just achy all over and my skin hurts.

I mean, according to the web, it's either allergies or tuberculosis or cancer or plague.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 13, 2012, 02:52:33 PM
DH went to the dr wed with "allergies" and came home with bronchitis and possibly pneumonie  :o
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 13, 2012, 03:25:37 PM
I don't think that's it - I've been feeling the same level of crappiness for a week now - no worse, marginally better, then worse again. I can tie it to the mold levels, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 13, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
Debba - could the aches be from the car accident or did you have them prior?  It could be your immune system is just fighting so hard and doing better on some days instead of others.  Just a theory.  Feel better soon.

Today has been great for me eating-wise.  Pumpkin pancakes, oranges & strawberries as snacks, PB&J for lunch, pasta w/extra veggies, beef, and a salad.  Plus a ton more water than I normally drink.  Despite that, I am still in bitch mode today.

Going to bed soon and hoping for some decent sleep.  DH's allergies are royally messed up today so I have a feeling he will keep me awake all night. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 14, 2012, 07:08:06 AM
i did not sleep at all last night, blech. but when i did, i did have a dream about the fitbit, LOL. Now i am considering the body bugg but i vaguely remember it not being mac compatable.......
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 14, 2012, 09:04:50 AM
debba, my allergies are not as bad but no, no overall achiness or itching.  Are you taking anything besides the allergy meds and maybe having a mild drug/drug reaction?


meri, sorry you didn't sleep well last night.  What's on tap for today?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 14, 2012, 09:29:06 AM
busy busy busy at work, probably 20 miles tomorrow.

i got a groupon email for a weightloss dr in the town where i work, read it for a minute, seemed really enticing, but i know better, or should know better :D their hours did not match with mine any way! LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 14, 2012, 09:47:31 AM
The aches are/were all over body aches - like you get when you have the flu. No fever. Pretty sure they weren't from the wreck. I'm taking Zyrtec and Advil when they get too bad. I've been doing some Googling and flu-like symptoms seem to be anecdotally common with mold allergies, and the mold has been crazy this week - pushing 2000 on the allergy counts.  :o

I took 3 Advil last night and went to bed at 8:45 and feel a LOT better this morning. The allergy counts were also down yesterday, so I think that's part of it, too. Aches are gone, for the most part. Still a little sleepy, though, and my throat is still eh. If I can track it and tie it to the mold numbers, I may go back to the doctor and see if she thinks I need something stronger. I'm just frustrated as hell, because I can't work out when I feel like I've been hit by a train.

On the good side, I was down almost 2 pounds this morning!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 14, 2012, 10:47:42 AM
I'm just frustrated as hell, because I can't work out when I feel like I've been hit by a train.

On the good side, I was down almost 2 pounds this morning!

boo! and yay!  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 14, 2012, 01:04:40 PM
Woohoo!  1st in my age group!!  29:38 is pretty good for my first 5K in 5 years.  It was way quicker than I had expected of myself.  I should have worn more clothes because I was cold most of the time, my hands were numb, but other than a slight queasy feeling at the beginning it felt pretty good.  At one point I was sure the length of a 5K had increased and noone told me.  Very glad I did it without walking, and without having to push a stroller.  :D

I feel pretty spaced out so I'm hoping to catch a quick nap, then it's off to meet with LizardMixture & her DH. 
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 14, 2012, 01:06:31 PM
Oh yeah, I also had a $500 gift card in my swag bag!!   Score!!
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Post by: VP of Tea on April 14, 2012, 01:42:15 PM
Woohoo, bolloxd!
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Post by: merigayle on April 14, 2012, 01:57:10 PM
Woohoo!  1st in my age group!!  29:38 is pretty good for my first 5K in 5 years.  It was way quicker than I had expected of myself.  I should have worn more clothes because I was cold most of the time, my hands were numb, but other than a slight queasy feeling at the beginning it felt pretty good.  At one point I was sure the length of a 5K had increased and noone told me.  Very glad I did it without walking, and without having to push a stroller.  :D

I feel pretty spaced out so I'm hoping to catch a quick nap, then it's off to meet with LizardMixture & her DH.
AWESOME!!!  :bow2:
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Post by: diablita on April 14, 2012, 03:56:34 PM
nice perk!!!  what race was this?
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Post by: Coyzmum on April 14, 2012, 04:09:04 PM
Awesome Bolloxd!

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Post by: onawhim on April 14, 2012, 04:15:24 PM
 :bow2:
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 14, 2012, 04:22:54 PM
Dia- it was for ALFA on the Greenway in Morganton.  Very flat course along the river.  I've spent the gift card.... it was for a promotional website selling sunglasses and watches. 
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Post by: diablita on April 14, 2012, 08:09:07 PM
terrific!

flat and along the river?  that sounds wonderful?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 14, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
7.5 miles today! The longest run I have done in months and months and it felt good to be out in the park in the sun. Now I am preping for a housewarming dinner party. Hopefully i don't eat to much junk and that everyone loves our house!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 14, 2012, 09:18:41 PM
Good job, y'all - MM, that's awesome about the distance. And Bolloxd, huge congrats!!!

I'm going to try and do some yoga tomorrow. It would be nice to get the swollen feeling out of the back of my throat (WTF is that? Adenoids?) but I can deal with that if I must. Of course we took Reid to a restaurant/grocery store/giant playground for dinner tonight and ate outside, so we'll see how I'm feeling tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on April 14, 2012, 11:59:46 PM
So I finished up week 1 of turbo fire and holy hell has that program kicked my ass! But I'm loving it :)

So many awesome milestones here to comment on; WTG MM and bolloxd! I don't post much in here because I hate super long threads, but everybody's hard work is super inspiring :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on April 15, 2012, 01:37:09 AM
Doing great calorie-wise but the scale won't budge.  Which is actually good, I'm just naturally channel nervous energy into attempts to trim down.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on April 15, 2012, 06:17:20 AM
Way to go Bollox and MM!   MM - how did the party turn out?

I had an ok day - worked in the garden and yard, eating was decent, not great though, because I don't think Coors Light works well in any diet.  ;) 

Getting ready to do a 6 mile run, then clean my house.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 15, 2012, 06:33:53 AM
great job MM!!!!!

i was gardening yesterday until i found a snake. called it a day :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on April 15, 2012, 10:57:07 AM
Way to go Bolloxed and MM!  MM how was your party?

I like snakes.  Well...except for water moccassins.  :panic:

I am off to step class this morning, then to Target to get wrapping paper for a quilt I made for a friends new baby shower.  I have been holding steady weight wise, and doing pretty good exercise wise, too. Yesterday i took the boys to Big Lagoon for a long walk (not a good place for running). Dewey ran way ahead (it is a long spit between the ocean and a fresh water lagoon so Dewey can go and go and go..) and Hank got to swim the whole time. Everyone was happy.

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Post by: MiniDriver on April 15, 2012, 01:02:27 PM
Y'all are impressing the heck out pf me.

Added avocado, jicama, and mango to my salad today. Yum!
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Post by: debbatx on April 15, 2012, 01:55:17 PM
What does jicama taste like? I keep seeing it as a suggestion, but I have no idea what it tastes like.
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 15, 2012, 01:57:26 PM
Mouse- nothing beats a happy doggy day.
MM- glad you had a good run too!
Allsmiles- nice job on the weight loss.

So I'm feeling a little sore today.  I really did not stretch at all after then run and then got cold so it has been tough on the muscles....my own fault.  A great eating day for me so far.

Dinner with LM was great.  They have an amazing house.  The kids were whiney most of the time...even after the beer.   :P

I'm slightly panicked yet very excited about the potential to join diablitia for the big relay run if one of the other runners drop.

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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 15, 2012, 02:33:02 PM
Mouse- you always have the most amazing walks! I am jealous of where you live! (Hint: post more pics, please! :D)
MM- nice job! I haven't run that far in a while either due to this damn knee/IT crap (Can only go 3 mi before it hurts). How's the asthma responding to the new inhaler?
debba- jicama is crunchy. Not a lot of flavor (imo) but it has a nice texture for adding to stuff. Speaking of...
Mini- that salad sounds yum! How are you feeling a week later? Any update on making the driver be responsible for everything?
Bollxd- CONGRATS!!! And nice job on the swag! So whatdya get? :D

So yesterday was an ok day. Not tooooo bad food wise- toast for breakfast, lunch was cheese ravioli with a salad, no snacking.. and then a friend called and asked me to go out with her. She wanted out of the house and felt like a drink and dancing... so we ended up at this hilarious place called Johnny's Hideaway. It's pretty cheesy inside. Crowd ranges from 30s- 80 yo! Music from Frank Sinatra to disco and 80s... We did some dancing (which was fun!) and some drinking (4 small glasses of red wine.  :-\) I didn't have time for dinner before hand, so I ended up having some frozen yogurt with fruit (and mini m&ms!) for "dinner". That's sort of healthy right? :P

Today has been better. Oatmeal for breakfast, homemade bowl of polenta with veggies for lunch. I'll be going for a run and Jillian workout later. I'll probably eat the rest of the Amy's no cheese pizza (with cheese and green olives added by me.) I'll be making debba's orzo salad for lunches this week, too!

Hope your Sundays are going nicely. :)

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Post by: debbatx on April 15, 2012, 06:17:21 PM
DH, Reid, and I met my BFF for brunch this morning. The pancakes were delicious, and not the size of my head, which was nice. Also, I got to see my BFF! She lives in San Francisco with her husband, so we never get to see each other anymore, but we've been best friends since we were about Reid's age. No exercise. Oh well. Red Beans & Rice for dinner.
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Post by: merigayle on April 15, 2012, 06:22:24 PM
hi ladies. i have been lurking, not really much to post. i was supposed to run 20 this morning but my running partner's feet are still torn up from our rainy 100 mile trail race 2 weeks ago, so we just did 15 (and it was raining again today, which did not help). I am going to try to feel really invigorated for healthy eating tomorrow. I am planning on getting some 2 a days in this week and i see the Midwife on Wed to have the mirena out  :e)
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 15, 2012, 06:37:20 PM
On the megabus on my way home from NYC didn't eat too badly but didn't track. Walked over 24k steps yesterday -- east side to west side then the entire hi line then downtown to uptown. Did close to 20k today going to the 9/11 memorial and walking over the Brooklyn bridge. I do feel bloated due to lots of salty foods but I think I should be ok once that evens out. I think we covered close to 20 miles walking in 2 days.
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Post by: Jules62 on April 15, 2012, 06:39:41 PM
hi ladies. i have been lurking, not really much to post. i was supposed to run 20 this morning but my running partner's feet are still torn up from our rainy 100 mile trail race 2 weeks ago, so we just did 15 (and it was raining again today, which did not help). I am going to try to feel really invigorated for healthy eating tomorrow. I am planning on getting some 2 a days in this week and i see the Midwife on Wed to have the mirena out  :e)

"just 15" !!  You are a rockstar in my book!
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Post by: merigayle on April 15, 2012, 06:54:55 PM
Wow, MoS! That is a lot of walking !!!
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 15, 2012, 07:13:40 PM
Wow, MoS! That is a lot of walking !!!

Yeah and the worst part was yesterday I didn't wear my sneakers because we were going to the theater. I wore sandals but at around mile 6 my feet were killing me. We were able to find a famous footwear where I ducked in and got some supportive Nike flip
Flops on sale but man my feet were burning!
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Post by: merigayle on April 15, 2012, 07:30:07 PM
Ugh that is the worst! First time to vegas i was not prepare for all the walking and at one point looked down to see bloody feet!!!!!
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 15, 2012, 07:36:04 PM
The party was fun but I ate too much junk and drank. Antag is hung over today so we haven't run but we did do some yard work.
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Post by: leggova on April 15, 2012, 08:56:01 PM
I am having a lot of good results with weight loss by adding yoga to my fitness regime.
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Post by: diablita on April 15, 2012, 09:14:23 PM
ouch on the bloody feet!  both cities are hell on feet

MM, glad you enjoyed your housewarming

I've eaten too much with my sister in town but I'll work off the extra pound or two this week.  And running 10% of 208 miles on Friday/Saturday.  Fingers crossed that Bolloxd is joining me!  :fingers:
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Post by: merigayle on April 16, 2012, 08:51:56 AM
Have fun diablita! gingerbread will be there, no?

I made tofu scramble and misread the directions and put 3tbs of dijon, instead of one :D it still tasted ok, a little overpowering, but not bad.
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Post by: MiniDriver on April 16, 2012, 08:58:56 AM
Just 15!  I can't imagine that. 

Lanark is right - jicama is mild and a tiny bit sweet in flavor, but adds a nice crunch. 

A week in, the cast/brace are more an inconvenience than anything.  The worst part is, my husband's having a terrible time at work, having to care for me, and now it looks like his father will die in the next week.  It's just so much for him to bear and I'm pretty much powerless to make it easier on him. 

Turns out the driver was "visiting" from Mexico for a few days - ha!  Then why was he driving alone at 8 am?   More likely an undocumented immigrant than a tourist.  Luckily the car's owner is insured, and my shark will apply the screws.  Not really worried about bills right now - I haven't seen any, it's all been covered by my health insurance.  When we collect from their insurance, my insurance will want their share, after the shark takes his bite.  All I told the shark is I don't want to end up in debt for this.  He says no way.  Either my insurance or theirs will pay. 

Meri - have you tried Sazon Goya with tofu?  Dice the tofu, sprinkle a bit of Sazon Goya, a few cherry tomatoes, a bit of onion and bell pepper, and it's a real treat.  Maybe even some papaya if you have it.  I wrap it up in a whole-wheat tortilla - yum!

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Post by: diablita on April 16, 2012, 09:30:35 AM
Mini, the Sazon Goya sounds like a delicious idea!

sorry this is so tough on you and your DH.  I am really sorry to read about your FIL  :hug:
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Post by: debbatx on April 16, 2012, 10:20:53 AM
Mini, I'm sorry this is so tough on you and DH. That's a lot to deal with all at once, for sure. I'm glad your insurance is covering, at least! I'm sorry to hear about your FIL. I hope his passing is peaceful, if that's possible.

I slept like the dead last night, but the good news is that I'm feeling human again this morning, so that gives me hope for the week. Yay!
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 16, 2012, 11:25:06 AM
Mini, the Sazon Goya sounds like a delicious idea!

sorry this is so tough on you and your DH.  I am really sorry to read about your FIL  :hug:

1! Sorry to hear about the FIL on top of everything right now. :(

So far, so good today. Got up and worked my way through my Jillian DVD. Down another pound this week. With the steady weight training and low-mileage running + decent eating, it's not been too hard. Finally. I've just got about 11 more lbs I'd like to lose if I can. I'm excited about lunch- I'm having debba's orzo pasta salad thing today! I tasted the dressing before I added it and it was yum (though, I used half and half instead of buttermilk!) Calorie-wise, under 400 cals/very generous serving.

Debba- glad you're better today! So, run tomorrow, right?? :)
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Post by: Courtney on April 16, 2012, 11:36:17 AM
I am having a lot of good results with weight loss by adding yoga to my fitness regime.

While I don't have any good weight loss stories as a result of yoga, I'm definitely enjoying it too!  :)  I need to add a home session in.

Apparently I can't be left alone.  This weekend DH was gone, and I ate mostly junk food.  I'm embarassed by it.  *sigh*

I worked out 6 days last week.  Two strenght/circuit workouts, two Insanity workouts, 2 spins, and one yoga.  So I need to just focus on that right now.  Otherwise I get cranky with myself.
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Post by: merigayle on April 16, 2012, 12:06:48 PM
see, if i was alone, i would have an easier time eating well, no bad influences!

Mini- will check that out. Sorry to hear about DH's father :( when it rains it pours.
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Post by: debbatx on April 16, 2012, 01:58:13 PM
That's the plan, Lanarkshire!! :)
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Post by: LizardMixture on April 16, 2012, 03:35:47 PM
Hello. I've been lurking a little. I am trying to get back on track now that the house is finally getting settled. The past few months have held a little too much pizza and def. too much booze. 

So... now I have a fitbit and I have healthy food and snacks. Here I come!  :D
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 16, 2012, 03:57:48 PM
Mini - I hope you catch a break soon.   :hug:
debba - glad you got some rest.
Courtney - that is a lot of working out!
leggova - glad you're enjoying the yoga.  I miss it and should really get back into it.
lanarkshire - yeah for the steady weight loss!
LM - you're up.  I'm sure your fitbit flower will be growing like a weed.

So it seems I am definitely joining diablita for the Smokey Mtn Relay.   :panic: I may be totally insane but I'm looking forward to it, as well as scared shitless!  I ran 5.7 miles today...was hoping to at least cover the longest distance I'll be doing for the race but I was not hydrated or fueled up nearly enough.  Lesson learned, eat better!!  I'm betting the adrenaline will push me along over the weekend.  I will also be eating as much food as possible.

Food today has been coffee & toast, an orange & banana, and some water.  Not really enough for a good run.  Will have to figure out something filling for tonight's dinner. 




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Post by: caito on April 16, 2012, 04:16:08 PM
You're going to have a blast, bollox!  I was so nervous before my relay last fall, but it was more fun than I ever imagined it could be.    You are right, adrenaline is going to help you through, but nutrition and fueling is very important as well.  It can be tricky since you're up all night and eating in a van at odd times, so be sure to pay careful attention to eating right.     

The other benefit of the relay for me:  It was a huge confidence boost.  I ran really well, better than I though I would and I came out of that experience inspired and less fearful of pushing myself.

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Post by: Bolloxd on April 16, 2012, 04:29:38 PM
Thank you, caito.  DH isn't quite sure why I actually want to do it, but I know the ego boost will be fantastic and totally worth it! 

Lots of drinking & eating, and quick cat naps when possible.  I'm hoping that being used to the twins & DH up in the middle of the night lately will have prepared me for the lack of sleep.   
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Post by: debbatx on April 16, 2012, 04:51:47 PM
Well that's exciting, Bolloxd! And thanks - I'm actually feeling human right now, which is a hugely welcome change. I haven't had enough water today - long story, but I haven't, so I'll try to make some of that up tonight with dinner.
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 16, 2012, 07:32:34 PM
 :vomit: I just accidentally ate some bacon. It was hidden in the "cheese" topping of the potatoes my dad made as part of dinner. I guess I should never assume that he has paid attention to the ingredients (he usually is very good at catching stuff and they know that things like broth make it un-veg, for ex.) I will be paranoid from now on and check everything. :( I'm drinking a beer in the hopes that the alcohol will clear out the bacon quicker (I know. Don't say it.)
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Post by: merigayle on April 16, 2012, 07:52:38 PM
oh no! was it bacon or baco bits bacon? (Baco bits are soy)
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 16, 2012, 07:59:13 PM
oh no! was it bacon or baco bits bacon? (Baco bits are soy)

Yeah I checked. :( Real bacon.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 16, 2012, 08:01:02 PM
oh no! was it bacon or baco bits bacon? (Baco bits are soy)

They are?  :yikes: Good to know.
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Post by: debbatx on April 16, 2012, 08:03:15 PM
Sorry, Lanarkshire - that sucks for you. :(
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Post by: merigayle on April 16, 2012, 08:11:35 PM
They are?  :yikes: Good to know.
well, the Bac-o-bits ones are. it is a toss up for the other brands, about half are soy and half are bacon. weird, huh?  i love me some bacobits, but i never eat them out, because you never know what they really are. i have a secret stash in the closet that i totally forgot about :D
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Post by: diablita on April 16, 2012, 08:33:35 PM
Bolloxd, so happy that you've joined the team!  I feel the same way, no worries.

And we'll get a bit of sleep at the campground, but probably not much.  Having young kids prepares us well.  :D
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Post by: diablita on April 16, 2012, 09:08:50 PM
debba, I just thought of you -- put away a new container of Zyrtec and discovered that they do make a 5 mg and 10 mg bottle.  My allergies are steadily worsening and apparently I take the higher dose alread.   :argh:  And only one per day.  I hope the allergy season will die down before I have to go hunting for a different med.
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Post by: debbatx on April 16, 2012, 09:39:03 PM
Yeah, Claritin had been working fine for me, and then the mold spiked.  :nono: I'm hoping the worst is over for a while, but we'll see. Allergies are awful this year.
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 16, 2012, 10:17:23 PM
Probably due to the mild (and dry.. at least here) winter. I'm hoping that's why my exercise-induced asthma has been worse. I look forward to spring in London next year! I don't normally get allergies there! (Of course spring= cold in London...  :-\)
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 16, 2012, 11:20:17 PM
5 miles tonight...super fast for me lately (11 min/mile average). I ate pretty well today too. Lunch was leftover veggie pizza (not great but not terrible), tomatos and an apple. Breakfast was a banana and a ww bar. Snack was a cheese etick and a banana and dinner will be a baked potato and broccoli.
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Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2012, 05:34:14 AM
good early morning! up at 5am (kinda 4, when DD woke up briefly) to do my first day of two a days. i may keel over before noon today. i have no idea what to eat before my first run (second run around 11:30am). My weight has been holding steady the past few weeks, no ups and downs like it usually is, wonder if that has to do with the weaning?
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Post by: diablita on April 17, 2012, 06:52:53 AM
morning!  good luck with your first run.
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Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2012, 07:03:04 AM
morning!  good luck with your first run.
it took about 40 minutes to feel good, but i did a little over an hour on the TM. hope i can muster up the energy for my prework run too! I am hoping to see the weight budge a little with an increase in exercise. As long as I do not eat myself out of house and home. I got to find some healthy snacks that are not fruit, i can only eat so much fruit. I may have to buy some faux yogurt. I bought some awesome coconut milk greek yogurt the other day but when i went to buy another, i realized it was $2.39/container!! like a little single serve container  :e) but maybe i can find another, less expensive one i like.
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Post by: Jules62 on April 17, 2012, 08:24:08 AM
MM - nice run-11 mm is my goal for the marathon on my radar!  I am not there yet, but getting better every day!   I am sitting here at work and just amazed at how much better I feel when I get up and run before work.  I just can't understand why I am not consistent with it when it makes me feel so much better. 

Eating has been decent so hopefully I will see the results Friday on the scale. 

Have a wonderful day all!   :)
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Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2012, 08:33:26 AM
Jules- what marathon?
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Post by: teetime on April 17, 2012, 09:27:07 AM
Mini - I hope you catch a break soon.   :hug:
debba - glad you got some rest.
Courtney - that is a lot of working out!
leggova - glad you're enjoying the yoga.  I miss it and should really get back into it.
lanarkshire - yeah for the steady weight loss!
LM - you're up.  I'm sure your fitbit flower will be growing like a weed.

So it seems I am definitely joining diablita for the Smokey Mtn Relay.   :panic: I may be totally insane but I'm looking forward to it, as well as scared shitless!  I ran 5.7 miles today...was hoping to at least cover the longest distance I'll be doing for the race but I was not hydrated or fueled up nearly enough.  Lesson learned, eat better!!  I'm betting the adrenaline will push me along over the weekend.  I will also be eating as much food as possible.

Food today has been coffee & toast, an orange & banana, and some water.  Not really enough for a good run.  Will have to figure out something filling for tonight's dinner. 


You are going to rock this race.

In case anyone here wasn't already well aware, Bolloxd is a brave, tough, kind as can be rock star who is running this race on short notice in my place.  For me this means that I don't have to pass up a TTC (trying to conceive) cycle (a cycle that did not seem possible a couple months ago) and I can sleep soundly knowing awesome team diablita has a great runner to take my place.  It really means the world to me.

In terms of this thread, it is also going to be the best workout ever for your buns!!

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Post by: Jules62 on April 17, 2012, 10:08:42 AM
So it seems I am definitely joining diablita for the Smokey Mtn Relay.   :panic: I may be totally insane but I'm looking forward to it, as well as scared shitless! 

I just googled that relay!  Wow - to say that looks challenging is an understatement!  Looks scary as hell and I admire both you and Diablita for having the nads to do this!!

Meri - it is the Soldier's Marathon here at Ft. Benning.  It isn't until November, but believe you me, I need all the extra time to get some sort of prepared.   :)
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Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2012, 10:12:33 AM
Catch that egg teetime!!!
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 17, 2012, 10:59:39 AM
I just googled that relay!  Wow - to say that looks challenging is an understatement!  Looks scary as hell and I admire both you and Diablita for having the nads to do this!!

Meri - it is the Soldier's Marathon here at Ft. Benning.  It isn't until November, but believe you me, I need all the extra time to get some sort of prepared.   :)

You're in Columbus? I'm up the road in Atlanta. :) Good luck on your marathon! I'm not there yet in wanting to do one. I keep saying the day I get to the end of a HM and I feel like turning around and doing it all over again will be the day I decide to do a marathon. :D

Meri- I can't imagine running 2 runs in one morning! And when I run first thing, I find a glass of OJ is a good way to keep the stomach happy (and give a bit of sugar to my system.) I've been trying the new Silk soy mango smoothie this week.. just a few ounces before my Jillian workouts. Helps me not feel nauseous by the end of it.
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Post by: Jules62 on April 17, 2012, 11:06:36 AM
You're in Columbus? I'm up the road in Atlanta. :) Good luck on your marathon! I'm not there yet in wanting to do one. I keep saying the day I get to the end of a HM and I feel like turning around and doing it all over again will be the day I decide to do a marathon. :D /quote]

Yep, in Columbus.  Are you running  Peachtree RR?  I  :heartbeat: Atlanta and always try to get DH to move there.  You should come down to do the 1/2 in Novemeber.  It is an awesome race!!
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Post by: Ice Cream on April 17, 2012, 11:08:13 AM
I may have to buy some faux yogurt. I bought some awesome coconut milk greek yogurt the other day but when i went to buy another, i realized it was $2.39/container!! like a little single serve container  :e) but maybe i can find another, less expensive one i like.

Curious... can you elaborate on these products?
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 17, 2012, 11:19:46 AM
Yep, in Columbus.  Are you running  Peachtree RR?  I  :heartbeat: Atlanta and always try to get DH to move there.  You should come down to do the 1/2 in Novemeber.  It is an awesome race!!

Yes, I'll be doing the Peachtree! Are you? If so, we should arrange a meet up. :) I would love to come do the half in November, but I won't be living in the US anymore by then (getting married in Aug and moving to London!)
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 17, 2012, 11:22:11 AM
You're too kind teetime.  I'll be running with you in mind.

I guess if I'm gonna jump into a relay race then starting with the most difficult one is the way to go.  My butt hurts just thinking about it.

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Post by: Jules62 on April 17, 2012, 11:28:47 AM
Yes, I'll be doing the Peachtree! Are you? If so, we should arrange a meet up. :) I would love to come do the half in November, but I won't be living in the US anymore by then (getting married in Aug and moving to London!)

Yes, I am doing Peachtree!!  We are staying in Midtown, so a meet up would be great.   Last year we sat at Frog's and drank $1 drafts and chatted with perfect strangers about the run.  Fun stuff.  Let me know!  Congrats on getting married!
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Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2012, 02:09:42 PM
Curious... can you elaborate on these products?
yogurts made from dairy alternatives. i generally buy DD coconut or almond yogurt, sometimes soy. this one, the So Delicious greek style was really good and i usually find dairy alternative yogurts gross. this is the particular one i tried http://www.sodeliciousdairyfree.com/products/coconut-milk-yogurts/vanilla-greek (http://www.sodeliciousdairyfree.com/products/coconut-milk-yogurts/vanilla-greek)
not sure what other info you would like, but i can help :)

I did my second run, about 50-ish minutes on the TM, my legs were tired. I actually have not eaten lunch yet, i am kinda nauseous. Maybe this is good for weight loss in more ways than i imagined :D
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Post by: debbatx on April 17, 2012, 02:14:00 PM
Big food change today - I'm still having my PB&J for lunch, but instead of pretzels, DH cut up some fresh veggies for me to have with some hummus. Yum! Morning snack was Greek Yogurt, afternoon snack will be a handful of almonds and a string cheese. We'll see how the new plan does.
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Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2012, 02:18:01 PM
i am actually thinking about eating my lunch, but was supposed to meet with someone at my office at 2pm, it is now 2:17, grrrrr. My first patient is at 3, so this is going to be tight if she shows late.
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Post by: debbatx on April 17, 2012, 02:22:28 PM
Trying to figure out how many servings were in that baggie o' veggies. It was a sandwich bag of broccoli, red pepper slices, sugar snap peas, and baby carrots. Any thoughts? Maybe 2 servings? I know a normal serving size is half a cup...
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Post by: LizardMixture on April 17, 2012, 02:40:52 PM
Food was good yesterday and good so far today. I'm using the fitbit and myfitnesspal.com and it seems to think I have a deficit of 500 cals. Also we fixed the treadmills today - I think we fried them putting them in the wrong plug so we had to get new consoles. Hopefully now everything will work right.

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Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2012, 03:11:23 PM
debba- 2?

So my appt was lost, she went to church rd, not west church rd, VERY different places in our town :D I *just* ate part 1 of lunch. I got some low carb wraps at the market and they are vile, i have gotten others in the past which were palatable, this was pretty plastic like.
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Post by: debbatx on April 17, 2012, 03:12:29 PM
Meri, that's kind of what I'm thinking - a serving is 1/2 a cup (unless it's a leafy green), and there was easily a full cup in there. So yay!
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Post by: Jules62 on April 17, 2012, 03:16:12 PM
DH cut up some fresh veggies for me to have with some hummus. Yum!

Would you mind sending your DH to my house to conduct some training? :D
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Post by: debbatx on April 17, 2012, 03:21:29 PM
Hah! Jules, I've been trying to get him to do that for months. :)
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Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2012, 03:24:39 PM
Would you mind sending your DH to my house to conduct some training? :D
:D
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Post by: debbatx on April 17, 2012, 04:31:41 PM
Huh. I like almonds! Who knew?
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 17, 2012, 04:40:23 PM
Trying to figure out how many servings were in that baggie o' veggies. It was a sandwich bag of broccoli, red pepper slices, sugar snap peas, and baby carrots. Any thoughts? Maybe 2 servings? I know a normal serving size is half a cup...

Probably about 2. I eat raw veggies with lunch every day (it is a habit I started when I first joined WW). It really helps fill me up!
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Post by: debbatx on April 17, 2012, 04:49:20 PM
It's a new one for me, but it went well today. :) Yay for veggies! And almonds, even though they use up a decent amount of points. The things you discover when you're in your 30s...
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 17, 2012, 05:13:49 PM
It's a new one for me, but it went well today. :) Yay for veggies! And almonds, even though they use up a decent amount of points. The things you discover when you're in your 30s...

I would never make it through the day on my points if I didnt eat them and a piece of fruit with lunch every day.
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Post by: debbatx on April 17, 2012, 05:32:25 PM
Yeah, I had an apple, too.
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Post by: caito on April 17, 2012, 08:32:30 PM
BOLLOXD!

Hi.  :)   Which C25k program did you use?  Can you post the link?    A friend of mine was totally inspired by the Boston Marathon yesterday and is interested in a C25k program.  The one you used seemed to work really well, so I figured I should send it to her.     Thanks!

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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 17, 2012, 09:03:11 PM
BOLLOXD!

Hi.  :)   Which C25k program did you use?  Can you post the link?    A friend of mine was totally inspired by the Boston Marathon yesterday and is interested in a C25k program.  The one you used seemed to work really well, so I figured I should send it to her.     Thanks!



That is funny. I finally convinced my coworker to do C25K. She kept insisting that she wasnt made to run. She did her very first day yesterday!
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 17, 2012, 09:40:34 PM
Yes, I am doing Peachtree!!  We are staying in Midtown, so a meet up would be great.   Last year we sat at Frog's and drank $1 drafts and chatted with perfect strangers about the run.  Fun stuff.  Let me know!  Congrats on getting married!

Thanks!

And let's be in touch closer to then to arrange something! Fun! :)

Ok, so dinner was not the best choice- pizza... I had half a small (12? 14 inch?) pizza- cheese, pineapple and hot peppers. It was thin crust at least. It was probably ok calorie-wise, but sodium was probably high....Aunt Flo showed up tonight, so that explains the craving.

Debba- the food change sounds great! I've been bringing cherry/grape tomatoes to eat with my low fat cheese. Helps fill me up for fewer cals. I bought a pepper to cut up, too, but haven't done so yet. I think I will for tomorrow! How was the run? ;)
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Post by: debbatx on April 17, 2012, 10:17:31 PM
I'll let you know tomorrow about the run. ;) I was a little hungrier than usual this afternoon, but not too bad. I wish I could have more almonds, but 25 was 5 points as it was, and the string cheese was 2. 7 points is kind of a lot for a snack. :-\ Maybe fewer almonds and 2 string cheeses? I'll keep playing with it and see how things go. That reminds me, though, I need to make sure there are some tomatoes in there tomorrow.

Just got my ass kicked at the gym.  :nono:
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 17, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
BOLLOXD!

Hi.  :)   Which C25k program did you use?  Can you post the link?    A friend of mine was totally inspired by the Boston Marathon yesterday and is interested in a C25k program.  The one you used seemed to work really well, so I figured I should send it to her.     Thanks!



HI CAITO!!  :)

I used the app by Guy Hoffman...on Android.   https://sites.google.com/site/c25kapp/   There are links to more info on that page.  I hope she enjoys it.  :D
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 18, 2012, 01:27:06 AM
5 miles today and boy was it miserable. I got dizzy on mile 2 and had to walk a while but then I felt a bit better and finished it out. I was determined to come in under an hour though so my last mile was a smoking fast, for me,10:30.
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Post by: merigayle on April 18, 2012, 06:51:20 AM
good job on a difficult run MM.

I got up at 5 today, well, actually, DD was up around 4, so i was up laying in bed  :eyeroll: and the only thing that got me out of bed was the allure of the Biggest Loser, but it was not ready on Hulu yet! GRRRRRR!!!!! tomorrow. I watched 2 episodes of the Office. DD then got up around 6:25, where she usually sleeps until 7, so i got an abbreviated workout, but atleast i got it in and tomorrow i will watch Biggest Loser.

I have my appt with the midwife today for the mirena removal. DH thinks a vasectomy = neutering  :eyeroll: :eyeroll: :eyeroll: sheesh.
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Post by: diablita on April 18, 2012, 06:57:14 AM
good morning mer.  good for you for getting another early workout in!  sorry about the BL.

I am wrecked.  Thunderstorms last night were not that bad but my DD did not appreciate them.  At like 1 am it became evident that I just needed to let her sleep in my bed for all of our sakes.  But she didn't relax easily.  :sleepy:
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Post by: merigayle on April 18, 2012, 07:16:54 AM
we moved DD out of our bed into her own room about 2 months ago. in our bed she slept thru the night, but i did not at all, now she wakes up 1+ times a night most nights (sometimes she does sleep thru) and it is exhausting and since it is so new, i go in there and do not let her back in our bed. it is exhausting for sure. i sometimes second guess moving her since she did STTN, but i am hoping over time she will. she was outside almost all day yesterday playing, so i was surprised she woke up so much :(
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Post by: caito on April 18, 2012, 07:46:39 AM
HI CAITO!!  :)

I used the app by Guy Hoffman...on Android.   https://sites.google.com/site/c25kapp/   There are links to more info on that page.  I hope she enjoys it.  :D


Thank you! 
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 18, 2012, 09:01:56 AM
DH was up all night coughing, etc with allergies.... so I was too.  Also Rachel woke up several times and it took me forever to fall asleep.  Zzzz.

Puppadoms are good for breakfast but not super healthy.

I did some shopping yesterday.  DH would die if he knew what I spent on running gear.  The stores also had to order a bra in for me....I really hope it turns up asap.
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 09:45:28 AM
 :sigh:

I suck. That's all.
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Post by: diablita on April 18, 2012, 10:16:06 AM
meri, in my experience the body habituates to the waking.  We all have periods of being more awake and she probably learned to go right back to deep sleep when she was in your bed.  Now in her new bed she's not yet gotten back to doing that.  And she's probably hitting that same cycle every night and not going back to sleep right away and not old enough to understand retraining her body.

We went through this with Jessica and we still do from time to time although it's VERY infrequent now.  You know what worked for us?  cupcakes.   :d  No really, we needed to use 'expensive currency' for J.

We came up with an easy phrase (b/c we did this when she was just over 2) which was "no cry, go back to sleep".  We'd get her to say it with us.  Slowly over time she'd stop crying for us in the night and then eventually her body followed and she'd stop waking for us in the night.  And when we'd hit another spell of the waking (and OMG she'd show up at my bedside at 3 am, I'd put her back in bed, she'd cry, I'd yell, nobody would sleep, what a  mess) we would get her back on track with the promise of a cupcake.

Now that she's older, when we go through this she has to go back to sleep for 5 nights before she gets one and counting them down has become fun.  And she'll get a cupcake once every other week or so so that she's not just hollering at night for treats.
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Post by: onawhim on April 18, 2012, 11:20:36 AM
My CW brought so much easter candy  :panic:   It is delicious.
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Post by: merigayle on April 18, 2012, 11:52:33 AM
yummmmm easter candy.........

so if you read in the other forum, IUD was not removed. Ugh. What a mess. Anywho, the midwife thinks the nursing would attribute more to lack of weight loss than the Mirena.
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Post by: Courtney on April 18, 2012, 12:40:20 PM
:sigh:

I suck. That's all.

 :hug:

You are in good company, my dear.  I had an utter and total relapse around my binge eating the last week or so. 
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 12:44:03 PM
Thanks, Courtney. I'm doing pretty well with the eating, but I just can't seem to get out of bed for a workout. :(
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Post by: onawhim on April 18, 2012, 12:48:18 PM
Thanks, Courtney. I'm doing pretty well with the eating, but I just can't seem to get out of bed for a workout. :(

Well it is 80% diet right?  So if you are doing well with eating you are doing a good job  :hug:
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 18, 2012, 12:54:53 PM
Oh Meredith.. guess where I am going tomorrow night for my nephews birthday celebration dinner?
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Post by: merigayle on April 18, 2012, 12:57:01 PM
Thanks, Courtney. I'm doing pretty well with the eating, but I just can't seem to get out of bed for a workout. :(
you want me to wake you up at 5am????? :D


Oh Meredith.. guess where I am going tomorrow night for my nephews birthday celebration dinner?

Minado? we are going there Sunday with an out of town friend :D
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 01:21:38 PM
Thanks, onawhim. I just need to exercise, and I'm really frustrated with myself. "Just do it" doesn't work.

And meri, 5 AM for you is 4 AM for me -  :yikes: My alarm goes off at 4:50 every day. I take my temp and then roll over and go back to sleep.  :sigh:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 18, 2012, 01:27:46 PM
Thanks, onawhim. I just need to exercise, and I'm really frustrated with myself. "Just do it" doesn't work.

And meri, 5 AM for you is 4 AM for me -  :yikes: My alarm goes off at 4:50 every day. I take my temp and then roll over and go back to sleep.  :sigh:

I feel you. I absolutely cannot work out in the morning. Even if I do somehow manage to get up (rarely) my runs suck way more and are way harder on me physically in the morning than evening. I dont know what I would do if I couldn't go in the evening.
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Post by: onawhim on April 18, 2012, 01:29:17 PM
I can't work out in the morning either.  Once I accepted that life got much easier  :D
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 18, 2012, 01:30:25 PM
I can't work out in the morning either.  Once I accepted that life got much easier  :D

See I am fine with it. My stupid fiancee keeps trying to pressure me to "just suck it up". Bastard.  >:(
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Post by: merigayle on April 18, 2012, 01:30:43 PM
Thanks, onawhim. I just need to exercise, and I'm really frustrated with myself. "Just do it" doesn't work.

And meri, 5 AM for you is 4 AM for me -  :yikes: My alarm goes off at 4:50 every day. I take my temp and then roll over and go back to sleep.  :sigh:
you tell me when and i will text you from the treadmill :D
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 18, 2012, 01:40:28 PM
you want me to wake you up at 5am????? :D


Minado? we are going there Sunday with an out of town friend :D
Nope. Shady maple!
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 01:43:06 PM
Evening workouts would be nice, but it's just not realistic. By the time Reid goes to bed, it's 8 PM and that 6-8 time is all we get with him all day. And in a few weeks, it'll be too damn hot to run even at 8.
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Post by: merigayle on April 18, 2012, 02:22:54 PM
Nope. Shady maple!
that would have been my second guess!!!!!!!!!!!! YUM!!!! *jealous*
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Post by: Courtney on April 18, 2012, 02:28:52 PM
Evening workouts would be nice, but it's just not realistic. By the time Reid goes to bed, it's 8 PM and that 6-8 time is all we get with him all day. And in a few weeks, it'll be too damn hot to run even at 8.

Yeah, the weather thing sucks for you down there (where are you in TX, btw?).  Have we already asked you about lunchtime workouts?  I am probably just not remembering :) 

Getting up in the AM sucks.  No two ways about it.  Do you know anyone (neighbor, friend?) who might want to meet up?  Someone else waiting on me is the only thing that ever works. 
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Post by: onawhim on April 18, 2012, 02:35:46 PM
Yeah I was going to suggest a group if mornings are your only option.  Only peer pressure or something drastic will get me up that early. TM or gym are not possible either?  I do not mind training in the heat and prefer it to the am for sure.  I like running when it is dark out as well. 
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 02:37:20 PM
I'm in Austin - so it's pretty blazing hot here most of the year.

Lunchtime workouts - there's no gym near me where I can go and hit a treadmill, take a shower, and get back on time. Running outside at lunch would be suicidal, both because of the heat and where I work.

I don't know anyone who'd be willing to get up and go at the same time, sadly. :(

I need a really good time-specific reward, I think. And I can't come up with a goddamn thing I want that badly.

Gym near the house doesn't open early enough. The heat is one thing - 115 in the shade is another.
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Post by: onawhim on April 18, 2012, 02:43:13 PM
I meant gym in the evening.  How about something you could do at home like 30DS?  It does not have to be running.  I think you should concentrate on diet and not beat yourself up over missing a workout.   Feeling like you are failing because you can't get up in the morning is shame spiraly and counterproductive at least for me anyway.  I do much better when I accept what I have to work with right now instead of punishing myself for not being the person I think I should.   :hug:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 18, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
I think I would buy a treadmill and cram it somewhere in my house.
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 02:59:44 PM
I already go to the gym to work out with a trainer 2 nights a week. That's really all I can ask for from DH. There's no private space in our house where I could do a video, and no place for a treadmill, either. :( 5 AM is pretty much my best/only option, and I can't make myself do it.
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Post by: caito on April 18, 2012, 03:09:42 PM
What about going to the gym on weekends?   

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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 03:15:08 PM
That would only be two days of cardio. And I'm not sure how DH would feel about it.
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Post by: Bolloxd on April 18, 2012, 03:24:03 PM
I ran 2.5 outside on some hills and 1 mile on the treadmill.  155 push-ups in 8 sets.  Slight panic about the race but feeling good.  I must force myself to eat lunch over the weekend or it won't be pretty.  I've got so much to do around the house but I'm procrastinating!  Ugh. 



Meri - sorry you've had such a tough time with the IUD.  You will feel so much better when it is all said & done, I just hope the pain eases for you.
Debba - don't beat yourself up too hard.  Mornings are tough for working out.  Just try to move around as much as possible throughout the day, taking walk breaks, etc.  until you can figure out what works best for you.
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Post by: Courtney on April 18, 2012, 03:27:06 PM
I'm in Austin - so it's pretty blazing hot here most of the year.

Lunchtime workouts - there's no gym near me where I can go and hit a treadmill, take a shower, and get back on time. Running outside at lunch would be suicidal, both because of the heat and where I work.

I don't know anyone who'd be willing to get up and go at the same time, sadly. :(

I need a really good time-specific reward, I think. And I can't come up with a goddamn thing I want that badly.

Gym near the house doesn't open early enough. The heat is one thing - 115 in the shade is another.

I wish we were neighbors.  I'd totally be your accountability buddy. 

That godforsaken heat and humidity would keep me inside all the time.  NFW I'd run (outside) at lunch, either! 

I don't have any good advice for you.  :(  Just a  :hug: cause I'm a hugger.  Wait, is it weird to advertise for an early AM exercise buddy on craigslist or something?  Are there any area running groups?
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 03:29:41 PM
There are area running groups, but none near my house at convenient times, unfortunately. Or, they're for competitive runners, which I decidedly am not, unless I'm racing for ice cream. :)

This is why I think I need a really awesome reward to work towards. I just can't think of anything good.
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Post by: Courtney on April 18, 2012, 03:33:32 PM
There are area running groups, but none near my house at convenient times, unfortunately. Or, they're for competitive runners, which I decidedly am not, unless I'm racing for ice cream. :)

This is why I think I need a really awesome reward to work towards. I just can't think of anything good.

I think that IRL, we'd be fast friends who race for ice cream together :D  You crack me up!

Spa day?
Fun new, expensive shoes?
Gadget of some sort?
Trip?
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 03:57:09 PM
Hmmmmm. DH and I are planning an anniversary trip in September. Maybe something related to that?
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 18, 2012, 04:06:29 PM
Hmmmmm. DH and I are planning an anniversary trip in September. Maybe something related to that?

How about a day at the spa?
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 04:10:43 PM
Maybe....

...but I feel like I need something that's more immediate. Like, if I work out in the mornings for a month, I get to buy X or something - but I don't know what X would be.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 18, 2012, 04:21:21 PM
Maybe....

...but I feel like I need something that's more immediate. Like, if I work out in the mornings for a month, I get to buy X or something - but I don't know what X would be.

Lululemon clothing!  That's going to be my reward if I ever loose these last stubborn pounds!
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 04:25:44 PM
I have a bit more than a "few" to lose for Lululemon, but that's a great longer-term goal. :) I'm thinking a spa day. Or half-day. :)
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Post by: merigayle on April 18, 2012, 04:48:55 PM
with my schedule and DH, 5am is really the only good option for me to get in more miles than i am now. DD refuses the jogging stroller and flips out if i am on the treadmill and even if i watch her kids shows on the tv, she is climbing on it and crying for her turn. it is tough at this age!

i fell prey to the Panera box today and had some bites of cookies and a bit of muffin. i am so stressed today. DH reminded me again that he hates his job and that if i need surgery it needs to be soon because of his insurance (in case of losing his job or changing jobs). sigh
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 05:29:20 PM
Tell your DH to shove it, meri. :)
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Post by: merigayle on April 18, 2012, 07:21:52 PM
Oh i agree. I hope he finds a better job soon but right now we are in the middle of refinancing and now this, so he has to stay put. So i am planning on feeling better in the morning and running at 5:30.
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 08:03:28 PM
I hope he finds a better job, too - it sucks to hate your job - but jeeeeez.
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Post by: merigayle on April 18, 2012, 08:19:04 PM
yeah i know. suck it up!! CTFU!!!!!!   :grr:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 18, 2012, 08:37:09 PM
yeah i know. suck it up!! CTFU!!!!!!   :grr:

Tell him that he can quit when he finds another job with good benefits to replace it. Until then he will just have to act like a grownup and CTFU since taking care of ones family trumps job satisfaction.  :D


But I am a bitch....
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Post by: Courtney on April 18, 2012, 08:43:23 PM
Oh boy...  so I was just asked to be in a wedding this fall.  Which means bridesmaid dresses and lots of pictures.   :yikes:  I'd like to not look like I do right now. 

I'm thrilled to be a part of this (it's DH's cousin, and DH is the best man), but I'm quite paranoid about the dress/pictures.
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 18, 2012, 08:52:33 PM
Ooh, Courtney, welcome to the wedding club! :P As MM or Jamers put it in another thread, the wedding is a good way to have a set goal date. Helps keep me on track for sure.

Well, except today. Holy schnikey! Today was a day off from Jillian (planned). I wanted to run yesterday, but it was raining later than it said it would. Then today, I was just too exhausted after work. I would have gone before, but it rained all day. So, I caved and ate a full size butterfinger this afternoon. I needed some sugar! And then I opened the last box of girl scout cookies to eat with a cup of tea (one serving of trefoils.) Not killer per se, but it was about 450 extra cals between the two things that I didn't need (that's like 4 miles running!) I totally blame Aunt Flow for the craving (and myself for giving in.)  :sigh:
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Post by: debbatx on April 18, 2012, 09:01:26 PM
OMG. I have thin mints in the freezer. I'd forgotten.  :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:
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Post by: onawhim on April 18, 2012, 09:12:51 PM
My mom had tons of thin mints at her place when I went to help her.  I ate them all.  Also every other cookie she had including arrowroot cookies which had gone past stale and chewy to the powdery stage  :D  She has to be gluten free now.  It was a mercy eating!
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Post by: diablita on April 18, 2012, 10:16:28 PM
a mercy eating  :roll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: LizardMixture on April 18, 2012, 10:37:56 PM
I'm so impressed with you guys even trying to work out that early. Seems like I just can't get going in the morning so I try to work it in through out the day. Today I did 1/2 hour on the treadmill in the morning and then another 1/2 hr after dinner. I've never owned a treadmill before and I know I would never have gotten my butt to the gym after dinner.
Heh. I read you guys' posts and think man am I ever lazy  :D

Mmm thin mints. I've actually been making peppermint ice tea and it's helped me not want soda so badly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 18, 2012, 10:57:00 PM
Onawhim -That is dedication for following through with a mercy eating.   :D
Lanarkshire - All bets are off during AF.  Allow yourself the rough day and try to get back going again tomorrow.
Courtney - its great to have a goal date, you'll do just fine!
Debba - Step away from the thin mints!  Brush your teeth & go to bed instead.
LM- I rarely workout after dinner.  Once I sit down I am usually done for the day. 

So I scarfed down a steak, taters, corn & some garlic bread for dinner....and Fruit Loops for an evening snack.  I think it is a combo of needing food from today's run plus nervous eating.  I've got almost everything packed.... a few deliveries tomorrow and maybe an emergency dash around town for a sports bra.  DH is *finally* accepting the fact I'm going away for a couple days.  I really hope it doesn't rain Fri/Sat.  At least not a lot.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: LizardMixture on April 18, 2012, 11:26:56 PM
I'm so excited for you Bolloxd. Can't wait to hear all about it. We are all rooting for you!

Your dinner sounds scrumptious. Mmm fruit loops. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on April 18, 2012, 11:40:48 PM
Day 11 of turbo fire and it is still kicking my butt but I really enjoy the workouts.  Sadly, I also gave up my beloved diet coke 11 days ago and I miss it dearly :sigh: I've been eating good but the scale isn't moving like I had hoped but I'm just going to keep trucking...what my other option? Just give up and be happy over weight? NFW :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 19, 2012, 05:21:49 AM
diet soda is bad for you, weight loss or not!

up at 5am today, slept like a rock and DD, so far, has slept thru the night. I am not really hungry, so not sure if i will eat before my first run. Ultrasound at 9am, have to bring DD along  :eyeroll: no pain upon waking, hopefully no pain upon running, esp since i got out of bed so early.

Dh overthinks things and instead of realizing he is being treated like bottom man on totem pole (which he is), he takes is super personally and beats himself up over it and gets really down on himself. resumes are out there, here's to hoping he can find something. right now our benefits are 100% paid for and we have the #1 insurance possible. My friend has the same insurance and pays $1500/month as her cut. It is VERY expensive stuff. We got very lucky.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 19, 2012, 06:25:58 AM
diet soda is bad for you, weight loss or not!

up at 5am today, slept like a rock and DD, so far, has slept thru the night. I am not really hungry, so not sure if i will eat before my first run. Ultrasound at 9am, have to bring DD along  :eyeroll: no pain upon waking, hopefully no pain upon running, esp since i got out of bed so early.

Dh overthinks things and instead of realizing he is being treated like bottom man on totem pole (which he is), he takes is super personally and beats himself up over it and gets really down on himself. resumes are out there, here's to hoping he can find something. right now our benefits are 100% paid for and we have the #1 insurance possible. My friend has the same insurance and pays $1500/month as her cut. It is VERY expensive stuff. We got very lucky.

Every time I read something about people's lives being dictated in some way by insurance it makes me so upset... we need a better system in this country!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 19, 2012, 07:11:25 AM
Every time I read something about people's lives being dictated in some way by insurance it makes me so upset... we need a better system in this country!
story of my life!!!!!

from the research i did via Dr Google, if it is embedded, it can still be effective and left in for a while. Which would be my preference with Badwater 88 days away (or something like that). But the whole insurance thing is the kicker. ugh. i've only had it for 3 years, so it could feesably stay in for 2-3 more years (in other countries they use the mirena for 7 years, not 5 like here, can we say $$$$$??????). But I want it out. But bad enough to have surgery now? i dunno. gotta see my options. The midwife did say (who is a triathlete) that it would be little to no downtime, but i do not always believe that.

oh and i did the TM for 70 minutes this morning, and then weights. Second run at 11:30 before work. Ultrasound at 9am. Preschool yoga in the middle there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 19, 2012, 10:39:02 AM
I have a plan! I have to figure out how to pay for it, but I'll talk to DH about it at lunch. I need his help and support for it to work, but I have a plan, at least!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 19, 2012, 10:46:56 AM
I have a plan! I have to figure out how to pay for it, but I'll talk to DH about it at lunch. I need his help and support for it to work, but I have a plan, at least!

Good!  So what is the plan?  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 19, 2012, 10:55:04 AM
What is the plan?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 19, 2012, 11:26:09 AM
If I work out in the morning for 95% of the days between Sunday and June 1st, I get a half-day at a spa in town.

I just have to get DH on board.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 19, 2012, 12:00:11 PM
If I work out in the morning for 95% of the days between Sunday and June 1st, I get a half-day at a spa in town.

I just have to get DH on board.

95% of every day, or of every planned workout day?  Don't forget to rest on purpose sometimes :) 

Having a plan is good.  I've got to clean up my food habits, again.  I need a plan as well.  I, however, am not giving up diet soda  :D  A-S, you are a better woman than I!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 19, 2012, 12:04:20 PM
If I worked out 95% of every day, I'd do nothing else! :) So, if there are 45 days, I have to work out 40 of them. I don't think there are that many days between now and June 1st, though. Need to count.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 19, 2012, 12:10:28 PM
i can offer my text message/phone wake up call services Tues-Friday for you :)

i almost passed out at DD's yoga, i think low blood sugar, having snack now before hopping BACK on the tm.  :runner:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 19, 2012, 12:17:06 PM
 You can pry my diet soda from my cold dead hand. No way in hell am I trying to give that up again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 19, 2012, 12:19:42 PM
Watch out, Meri, I might take you up on it! :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 19, 2012, 12:20:50 PM
You can pry my diet soda from my cold dead hand. No way in hell am I trying to give that up again.

1! 

I'd have to see a really compelling reason, and I haven't seen it yet.  I'm drinking a diet mountain dew RIGHT NOW  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 19, 2012, 12:21:15 PM
I have given it up mostly. We had a thread in the CH about it and I gave it up after that.  January maybe? We do not buy it or keep it at home and I only drink it if we go out to eat which is pretty rare.  Once a month maybe.  I love it so much but I know it is bad for me.   :(

Good luck debba!  Last night in yoga I was thinking maybe I should try to get up in the am with you.  But then I came to my senses  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 19, 2012, 12:26:32 PM
I gave up junk food and soda for Lent and I've been able to dodge it since, too - the beginning was hellish. Now I'm over it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 19, 2012, 01:08:09 PM
I am shitting myself today.  So freaking nervous and so much to get done still.
I talked to the kids about mommy being gone running for 2 days, and I know they didn't understand but it made me tear up.  I probably need to have a good crying session and then be OK.  I'm sure I'll be distracted while I'm gone and that will help.

Baked oatmeal w/blueberries & peaches for breakfast....yum.  Caramel cupcake....yum....  Making baked chicken pasta for dinner....yum.  And as much DFW as I can stand. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 19, 2012, 01:28:33 PM
I am shitting myself today.  So freaking nervous and so much to get done still.
I talked to the kids about mommy being gone running for 2 days, and I know they didn't understand but it made me tear up.  I probably need to have a good crying session and then be OK.  I'm sure I'll be distracted while I'm gone and that will help.

Baked oatmeal w/blueberries & peaches for breakfast....yum.  Caramel cupcake....yum....  Making baked chicken pasta for dinner....yum.  And as much DFW as I can stand.
you know that i recently went to a race and left DD for the first time. I bawled my eyes out the whole way to the airport, but it was good to get away for the first time in 3 years. She has, though, had separation anxiety issues since and i know once she is feeling better, i have a race in may where i will be gone 2 days and it will start all over again.....
1! 

I'd have to see a really compelling reason, and I haven't seen it yet.  I'm drinking a diet mountain dew RIGHT NOW  :D
i had a stress fracture in 2000 and reading that diet soda can leach calcium from your bones, that freaked me out. also, it is just a bottle of chemicals. I was a hard core diet soda addict (mt dew and dr pepper) and it was hard, but i gave it up 7 years ago. i only drink soda (not diet) at races.
Watch out, Meri, I might take you up on it! :)
i would not have offered if i did not think you would :) and anyone else, too. I am 99% reliable :D

Second run for the day is done and today i am REALLY hungry. Gotta head into work now though with lunch #2 and some snacks :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 19, 2012, 01:30:49 PM
oh and DH called while i was on the Tm and he said the best job prospect for him won't pan out for a few months and that he may just stay where he is and not to worry about surgery and when to have it if i need it. From the research i did, it can wait. I would prefer to wait until after Badwater, unless i could fit it in right after my 24 hour race in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 19, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
1! 

I'd have to see a really compelling reason, and I haven't seen it yet.  I'm drinking a diet mountain dew RIGHT NOW  :D

There was a reason.. I just watched the movie Hungry for Change a few weeks ago and they talked about it.. but now I can't remember.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 19, 2012, 03:22:34 PM
great article about sugar. and in the end she discussed Chinese Medical theory in regards to sugar and nutrition which was nice to see for a change. In Chinese Medicine, they go by energetics of food, so diet soda and sugar free foods react the same in the body as regular soda and regular foods that are sweet.

http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-4563/What-You-Need-to-Know-About-Sugar-Agave-Nectar-Fructose.html (http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-4563/What-You-Need-to-Know-About-Sugar-Agave-Nectar-Fructose.html)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 19, 2012, 03:34:03 PM
Oh, I've seen lots of good reasons, it's just that none of them are enough to make me want to quit.  :D  I'm not going to drink regular soda (too many calories) and I don't like coffee or tea.  So that leaves me very few caffiene options, and I'm certainly addicted to caffiene. 

I don't really want to stop drinking it, so that is probably the big hurdle.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 19, 2012, 03:42:25 PM
Yeah bad chinese medicine juju or whatever is probably not going to get me to stop something  :D  I am sure it is not good for me and so it is a treat only now.  I have gotten sensitive to caffeine in my old age anyway and try not to drink any after noon so I was drinking decaf anyway.  Who wants that!  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 19, 2012, 04:21:58 PM
DH is on board with the plan - :w00t: and  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 19, 2012, 04:27:10 PM
DH is on board with the plan - :w00t: and  :panic:
8) :runner: :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 19, 2012, 04:49:49 PM
You can do it!  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 19, 2012, 05:08:33 PM
Thanks, y'all!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 20, 2012, 07:09:37 AM
got my run on this morning, a bit more lethargic than the other days this week, but i did it! easily added 20+ more miles to my weekly mileage. AND the scale was up a pound. I came home late from work last night to a bowl of spaghetti and garlic bread. i ate it all. i probably ate around 2100 calories yesterday, but i also ran for a little over 2 hours yesterday, so not too bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 20, 2012, 10:37:46 AM
The weather here has been awesome. It was in the 70s when I ran last night. I also weighed and I am down! Yay!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on April 20, 2012, 11:58:40 AM
Missed you guys while my phone was on the fritz.

Wedding dress is too loose.  Oh hai, rehearsal dinner.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 20, 2012, 02:10:16 PM
The challenge begins Monday, for me. Possibly Sunday, but DH is going out Saturday night to a show and won't be home until late, so Monday's more likely.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 20, 2012, 02:44:12 PM
Missed you guys while my phone was on the fritz.

Wedding dress is too loose.  Oh hai, rehearsal dinner.

That is not a bad problem to have! Enjoy the wedding!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 20, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
Well, here's a reason to give up soda...

http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/20/11303027-cola-habit-behind-death-of-30-year-old-new-zealand-woman?lite (http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/20/11303027-cola-habit-behind-death-of-30-year-old-new-zealand-woman?lite)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 20, 2012, 03:52:30 PM
her teeth must have been rotting out of her mouth too!!! that is an insane amount of coke.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 20, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
her teeth must have been rotting out of her mouth too!!! that is an insane amount of coke.

I think if you are drinking 2 gallons of anything a day you have a major issue.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 20, 2012, 06:19:27 PM
I think if you are drinking 2 gallons of anything a day you have a major issue.
yes!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 20, 2012, 08:18:48 PM
At my water consumption peak, I might have been close to 2 gallons a day, but that's water. And I don't think I quite made it to 2 gallons.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 20, 2012, 09:10:15 PM
That is not a bad problem to have! Enjoy the wedding!

Is the wedding tomorrow??? woo hoo.. that came up fast!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 20, 2012, 09:14:53 PM
Basically, I had an early dinner of ice cream, and then a later dinner of vodka.   It was a shitty day.


I'm throwing away the rest of the ice cream tomorrow.   But I'm buying more vodka. 
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on April 20, 2012, 09:26:51 PM
Is the wedding tomorrow??? woo hoo.. that came up fast!

Week from tomorrow.  Still fast!

And I can eat like a normal human this week, enjoying all the social stuff without worry.  Not bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 21, 2012, 06:42:26 AM
At my water consumption peak, I might have been close to 2 gallons a day, but that's water. And I don't think I quite made it to 2 gallons.
probably at my highest, while nursing and parched, i drank around 100-120oz/day. now i am in the 60-80oz mark.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 21, 2012, 09:09:12 AM
probably at my highest, while nursing and parched, i drank around 100-120oz/day. now i am in the 60-80oz mark.

I had 6 liter-size bottles in the fridge at work and I just refilled them. It wasn't unusual for me to go through 4 or 5 a day and then have a little more water with dinner at home.

Didn't do so hot last night for dinner, so the scale was up a bit this morning. I'll be drinking as much water as possible and re-weighing tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 21, 2012, 03:36:51 PM
I hope someone is here to talk me down from making brownies!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 21, 2012, 03:43:08 PM
I hope someone is here to talk me down from making brownies!

Don't make brownies.    Focus on your goal.  Have some fruit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 21, 2012, 03:49:03 PM
Don't make brownies.    Focus on your goal.  Have some fruit.

Yeah.. worst case, I may take a few trader joes dark chocolate lovers pieces and melt them over fiber cereal...that always makes me poop alot!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 21, 2012, 06:23:00 PM
Speaking of poop.

I've been having some strange IBS-like things happening the last couple of days. Like EVERY time I eat I get light cramps, feel a bit nauseated, then I usually have to GO. I haven't pinpointed anything weird I've eaten. I could only eat half a sandwich before I started feeling sick.  :(

Do I have a tape worm?   :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 22, 2012, 11:44:33 AM
Mini-goal #1 - met today! WOOT!!!!!

Now I just have... 13 more to go, at least.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 22, 2012, 11:46:05 AM
Today I went to the gym and did about 70 minutes on the elliptical. I wanted to run, but I wanted to do longish cardio and I ran 10 miles yesterday so I thought it would be wise to do some cross training instead since I hadn't run 10 miles in a long time.

I stepped on the scale after (I love weighing right after I work out and have sweat! ) and was down a few lbs. I haven't been really tracking my food. I know I have been careful with my eating, but I know I can take off another 10 lbs if I really try and get serious..

I also lifted.  I am loving how my arms and shoulders and even my core is starting to look. 

I was also looking at some old race times on athlinks from my 2008 and 2009 races when I qualified for and ran Boston.. Man, I was some kinda fast then, and I'm actually feeling like I might be able to get close to those speeds again.. I say close, because I am 4 years older and you know, you can fight the aging process completely!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 22, 2012, 03:44:44 PM
good job everyone! i had a friend in for the weekend. we did 20 very cold and rainy miles and then pigged out on sushi afterwards. i hope to see some budge on the scale next week. this was my highest mileage week since i got pregnant in early oct 2008!!!! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 22, 2012, 11:36:33 PM
I'm baaaack! I have been eating crap for the past month. I'm ready to get back to it tomorrow. I restart with stage 1 of the "idiet" tomorrow. I have all of my food and I'm ready to go. I have felt like such crap the last two weeks, I'm excited to start feeling better and continue my progress toward my goal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 23, 2012, 06:18:03 AM
I'm baaaack! I have been eating crap for the past month. I'm ready to get back to it tomorrow. I restart with stage 1 of the "idiet" tomorrow. I have all of my food and I'm ready to go. I have felt like such crap the last two weeks, I'm excited to start feeling better and continue my progress toward my goal.

Yay!  Me too. I mean I have not been eating too much like crap, but I have not been as diligent as I should.  Back to logging this week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 23, 2012, 09:18:22 AM
Scale is still inching down. I had a few slips this weekend, but I'm not beating myself up for them, just picking up and moving on. As of tomorrow, I'm 40 days out from a friend's wedding, so I'm starting my Grand Plan (workouts) tomorrow morning. *gulp*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 23, 2012, 12:10:56 PM
I'm wfh today so I decided to combine breakfast and snack into a 350 cal smoothie- 1 cup of greek yogurt, 1 frozen banana, 2/3 cup frozen berries, 1/4 cup wheat bran, 1T spirulina, 3 cups spinach, 1.5 cups water (makes a full blender). 2 grams of fat/30 g protien/20g fiber. Not a bad way to start the day (not strictly on plan, but except fro the banana, these are all things allowed on day 1- so I'm going with it).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 23, 2012, 12:13:38 PM
Speaking of poop.

I've been having some strange IBS-like things happening the last couple of days. Like EVERY time I eat I get light cramps, feel a bit nauseated, then I usually have to GO. I haven't pinpointed anything weird I've eaten. I could only eat half a sandwich before I started feeling sick.  :(

Do I have a tape worm?   :yikes:

I had an odd weekend, myself...  I wish I knew what brings stuff like this on.

I used to wish I had a tapeworm, because I thought I could eat whatever I wanted and be skinny.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 23, 2012, 12:16:51 PM
I had an odd weekend, myself...  I wish I knew what brings stuff like this on.

I used to wish I had a tapeworm, because I thought I could eat whatever I wanted and be skinny.  :D

Stuff like this happens to me also. I know that accidentally ingesting soy is a trigger but I have no idea what
t other triggers are.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 23, 2012, 12:32:26 PM
Stuff like this happens to me also. I know that accidentally ingesting soy is a trigger but I have no idea what
t other triggers are.

I can never seem to pinpoint a food, but I suspect it's tied to something like that. 

Since it isn't all the time, I've surmised that my diet soda is not the culprit :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 23, 2012, 12:36:52 PM
i get tummy issues lately, not sure what the cause is, but never had stomach issues, ever. stress is what i blame everything on :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 23, 2012, 01:37:05 PM
Meri- I haven't been around much the past couple of weeks- did you have the mirena removd? Did the dr give you any idea of how long until you might see any potential benefits from having it removed?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 23, 2012, 01:41:41 PM
Meri- I haven't been around much the past couple of weeks- did you have the mirena removd? Did the dr give you any idea of how long until you might see any potential benefits from having it removed?
they could not get it out, i had an ultrasound on Thurs morning at the hospital and have been waiting for results. there is a mega thread called women stuff talk in Yammering about it. I am really upset and depressed over the whole thing. Depressed over feeling fat. And just not happy at the moment with anything.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 23, 2012, 01:51:46 PM
Oh, no! I'm so sorry! No results yet on the US? What the?!  :fingers: for some news today!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 23, 2012, 01:57:40 PM
Oh, no! I'm so sorry! No results yet on the US? What the?!  :fingers: for some news today!
the radiology people said by end of day Thursday. Called the birth center twice thursday, then left them a message Friday morning, they called at 4:45pm on Friday and said they never got the report from radiology and wanted the # for the radiology place i went to (local hospital's radiology center) and never heard back. left a vm this morning at the birth center (actually REALLY early in the morning hoping to hear back when they got into the office this morning) and just now at 1pm.  :fiery: yes, that is a very angry vagina.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 23, 2012, 02:26:35 PM
That is crazy!! When I had my first one placed I was in pain for days so my dr sent me in for an internal ultrasound (or whatever it's called). I believe I got the results the same day! I can't imagine why it would take days & days for something like this.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 23, 2012, 03:05:33 PM
I other news- I made up some greek yogurt dip for cut up veggies (dried onion, garlic, dill, plus lemon juice and salt). So yummy I was eating it with a spoon and feeling a bit guilty... but then I realized it's just like eating savory yogurt and there's nothin' wrong with that!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 23, 2012, 04:15:43 PM
That is crazy!! When I had my first one placed I was in pain for days so my dr sent me in for an internal ultrasound (or whatever it's called). I believe I got the results the same day! I can't imagine why it would take days & days for something like this.
i posted an update in yammering, but the head honcho midwife called and said it was not embedded and they will give me cytotec tonight to dialate me and will try again tomorrow. no running tomorrow, but if i can avoid surgery, even better. talking with a super smarty friend this weekend, she definitely thinks some of my issues are progesterone caused, so we will see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on April 23, 2012, 04:20:20 PM
Good news meri! And good luck thinking all good thoughts for you to get the damn thing out!

I thought this would be of interest to this group, it's about women's clothing sizes

http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/art/index_art.aspx?tabnum=1&art_id=89681&sc=3048 (http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/art/index_art.aspx?tabnum=1&art_id=89681&sc=3048)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 23, 2012, 04:32:08 PM
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One of the few places where older sizing is still apparent is in the dress-pattern market. The McCall Pattern Co., which markets Butterick, Vogue and McCall sewing patterns, shows size 8 measurements as 31 ½” bust, 24” waist and 33 ½” hip. Those measurements on Banana Republic’s Web site are somewhere between a size 00 and 0.
  interesting
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 23, 2012, 04:52:07 PM
  interesting

Sounds like the way formal wear is sized.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 23, 2012, 07:32:04 PM
Why don't they just do women's sizes like men's pant sizing? I mean, 31" is 31" whether it's 1960 or 2012.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on April 23, 2012, 07:50:49 PM
Because they think we are stupid. And apparently some many of us are stupid. It's a number in a piece of clothing. It means NOTHING.

A so so man looks in the mirror and sees a god. A women with a great figure and face looks in the mirror and sees fat and ugly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 23, 2012, 07:52:01 PM
Because they think we are stupid. And apparently some many of us are stupid. It's a number in a piece of clothing. It means NOTHING.

A so so man looks in the mirror and sees a god. A women with a great figure and face looks in the mirror and sees fat and ugly.
yeppers.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 23, 2012, 07:53:00 PM
Why don't they just do women's sizes like men's pant sizing? I mean, 31" is 31" whether it's 1960 or 2012.

That would be nice.

On an unrelated note...I friggin gained this week in WW. Pissed me the hell off. It hardly counts as it was only 0.2 but I was been working my ass off to lose and skipping all the yummy stuff and running (even the day it was 90something) so it pisses me off when I dont lose. I am down about 8.5 pounds since I joined but if I don't get my ass in gear I won't reach my mini wedding goal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 24, 2012, 06:51:55 AM
MM, that's a bummer about WW. I've had it happen before, too and it's just so frustrating. I honestly think .2 is the most frustrating thing to see on the scale, whether it's up or down, because it's like, why bother? Why didn't it just stay the same? Or hell, if you're going to gain, GAIN, you know? Hang in there - if you're doing all the right things, it'll pay off eventually.

I went for a shuffle this morning. It went well - I'm still kind of sleepy, but I'll survive, I think, as long as I don't accidentally feed myself to the shredder at work or something.  :luvcoffee: Apparently the promise of a spa day was enough to motivate me. Who knew?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 24, 2012, 07:24:45 AM
good job! i did not do my run in fears of crampiness from the cytotec, but not too bad, but once i got out of bed, a little crampy, running probably would not have been a good idea. i slept an extra hour and dreamed about mint choc chip ice cream and buffets, LOL!!!! Planning on a 5am wakeup tomorrow, if you need a text buddy :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 24, 2012, 10:00:46 AM
That sounds like an awesome dream, meri! I'll shoot you my cell # later - tomorrow morning is probably going to suck. I'm glad I went this morning (only 39 more days and I can book that spa day!), but I'm tired!  :luvcoffee:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 24, 2012, 10:04:37 AM
Ugh. Got on the scale this morning. =/
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 24, 2012, 10:07:39 AM
The place had like fifty flavors and a bunch named after horror movie. Now i want some ice cream!!!! I may have to treat myself to TCBY if all goes well w the midwife and i get done in time
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 24, 2012, 10:13:49 AM
Given what you've been through, I'd say some TCBY would definitely be in order.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 24, 2012, 02:15:19 PM
Hello there!

It appears that I lost 5 lbs over the weekend from the race.  Most of it water weight and I'm trying to get it back....I am constantly thirsty.  I'm having a tough time catching back up on the sleep too.  But it was extremely fun and definitely worth it.  I'm not nearly as sore as I expected, although I did have a massage yesterday that has made me feel worse. 

I've been trying to get in some decent food but nothing appeals to me.  AF made a surprise visit 1 week early so my digestive system has been messed up.  Despite everything I feel so good and happy with myself.  We ran some monster hills up & down in beautiful places.  I feel like I could take on anything now, it really has been such a boost of confidence and it has also been humbling-to realize I still have a long way to go to improve my running.  I was so very lucky to be able to have the experience and enjoy it with awesome people. 

I have a big urge to head out for a run today, but I know I need to rest a little more and get more fluids in me first. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 24, 2012, 02:21:58 PM
Great job, Bolloxd! :) Get some rest and fluids, and maybe just do a short run?

Waking up early is starting to catch up with me. I'm sleepy!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 24, 2012, 02:25:07 PM
great job at the relay! 5lbs? wow! after my first 50M which was like 95F, i was up 7 lbs, wtf? (salt tablets probably + gatorade).

Yes, by the end of last week i was fighting to keep my eyes open. i hope we adjust to the early wake up. so tomorrow's schedule at work looks very light, so i am going to leave early and get a run in, i may even go to the park on my way home before picking DD up :) Then it will almost make up for missing today's runs.

and i decided when i start to lose weight, which has got to happen at some point, i am sure, i am going to reward with LuLuLemon shopping, probably 1 item because that alone will break the bank :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 24, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
If I could fit into Lululemon stuff, that would definitely be a reward for me - someday!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 24, 2012, 02:58:10 PM
If I could fit into Lululemon stuff, that would definitely be a reward for me - someday!
someone told me where the store was in the mall and it was not where she said and i did not have time to walk over there. it is probably better off!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 24, 2012, 03:16:09 PM
If I could fit into Lululemon stuff, that would definitely be a reward for me - someday!

Are running pants really worth over $100 though? Do they look that much better than the stuff elsewhere? I just cannot bring myself to spend that kind of money on it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 24, 2012, 03:21:16 PM
This morning I was down 3 pounds from what I weighed in on Sunday. WTF? Why am I always up on weigh in day? I know it is the overall trend that matters but it works at my confidence when that happens.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 24, 2012, 03:23:14 PM
MM- they are super expensive. a lot of my patients wear lululemon stuff and it does seem much higher quality than anything i have ever owned. I was just on the site and question if i could ever actually buy something there. who knows.

good job on being down! maybe the stress of the weighin???
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 24, 2012, 03:42:47 PM
MM- they are super expensive. a lot of my patients wear lululemon stuff and it does seem much higher quality than anything i have ever owned. I was just on the site and question if i could ever actually buy something there. who knows.

They also do alterations for free any time as well which is nice for me since I am short. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 24, 2012, 04:49:35 PM
So we had bought these smoothie mixes at weight watchers a few weeks back. I used them a few times and noticed it made me feel like crap so last night I looked at the ingredients to see what the deal was. Damn things are made from soy. It was the second ingredient.  >:( I guess I need to get used to reading packages more carefully.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 25, 2012, 07:06:22 AM
70 mins on the TM done :) hard to get out of bed, since i was up at 3:45am when DD woke up for a few minutes, and never really went back to sleep.  :sleep:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 25, 2012, 10:14:05 AM
Dammit, this morning did not go well at all. DH is sick, so we slept like crap all night. On top of that, we got to bed late because a friend of ours came over to help take out a half-fence in our backyard, and that didn't get done until 9.15 and it was close to 9.30 before Reid went to bed and then I had to straighten the kitchen and DH was whining about not feeling good and just.... GAH.

So I skipped this morning. Awesome. I only get one more skip day!

AND, I lost a point at WW this week, which is good, but I'm not used to it yet, so I keep making decisions based on my old point count.  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 25, 2012, 10:39:18 AM
Nice work meri!
Deb try not to beat yourself up too much, shit happens.

I've gained back most of my lost weight from the weekend but still feel incredibly drained.  My body has rebelled against me with early AF, and my inability to keep food in me for any length of time....goes straight through.  I'm hoping to finally be caught up on sleep, we shall see how today goes.

Toast and Gatorade for breakfast.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 25, 2012, 10:56:34 AM
Good luck, Bolloxd - and thanks. :) I'll get back on track tomorrow. I was so tired this morning, I slept through the alarms.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 25, 2012, 10:58:28 AM
i have had no change in weight, but i know when i first started getting serious and really counting calories, etc, in December, it took three weeks then i lost three pounds. Unfortunately, i have lost one pound since then.  :argh: i will say, since i have stopped nursing, my weight does not fluctuate as much as it has in the past, it would be all over the place. Trying to be patient.

Debba- tomorrow is a new day and my wake up services are still available :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 25, 2012, 11:25:53 AM
Bollox, those overnight relay races take a toll on you.  I was just wasted for for a few days after mine.  Hang in there, you'll recover!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 25, 2012, 11:30:27 AM
totally! when i do 100 mile races i am off for about a week. the running + lack of sleep is really a killer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 25, 2012, 12:18:17 PM
Today is day 3 and going pretty well. Each day gets a bit easier. Day 1 was bad and I did cave in to temptation. I had a "come to jesus" moment on the scale yesterday morning and yesterday was much better. ;) Down a bit today and feeling so much better now that I'm eating healthier again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 25, 2012, 12:26:46 PM
I went out to dinner last night at a steakhouse and it was so not on plan. I did have the salmon which I thought would be low points (it wasn't) and mashed potatoes, veggies,soup, and two dinner rolls because our food took so friggin long to come. We easily waited an hour and there went even any other customers. Then my salmon was overcooked and dried out so it wasn't even worth the points. Grr. Oh well today is a new day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 25, 2012, 12:28:18 PM
I went out to dinner last night at a steakhouse and it was so not on plan. I did have the salmon which I thought would be low points (it wasn't) and mashed potatoes, veggies,soup, and two dinner rolls because our food took so friggin long to come. We easily waited an hour and there went even any other customers. Then my salmon was overcooked and dried out so it wasn't even worth the points. Grr. Oh well today is a new day.
that is the worst!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 25, 2012, 12:37:30 PM
Crap, I'm going to have to run to the grocery store at lunch to get something prepared for dinner. DH isn't supposed to have dairy with one of his antibiotics - apparently the medicine will bind to the lactose and his body might not absorb enough of the medicine. Everything else we had planned to make this week involved dairy in some way. :mad2: Oh, and he was "too tired" to make sandwiches last night, so I don't have lunch, either. Which, fine, whatever, he's not feeling great. Except that his doctor's appointment was at 9.30 yesterday morning, the ultrasound was at 1.45, and the rest of that time, he was at home. He managed to run a load of laundry (didn't fold it, though), but he couldn't make a PB&J?

*sigh*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 25, 2012, 12:39:11 PM
my DH stayed home a week or so ago for 2 days and got nothing done, not even a load of dishes. i feel for ya.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 25, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
I know he's in some pain and all, but jeez. Come on, dude. Work with me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 25, 2012, 12:53:32 PM
I went out to dinner last night at a steakhouse and it was so not on plan. I did have the salmon which I thought would be low points (it wasn't) and mashed potatoes, veggies,soup, and two dinner rolls because our food took so friggin long to come. We easily waited an hour and there went even any other customers. Then my salmon was overcooked and dried out so it wasn't even worth the points. Grr. Oh well today is a new day.

This is what happened to me monday night. I had to attend an evening meeting and there was some drama surrounding it. After the meeting we ended up going to a mexican restaurant just to decompress. I planned to have water but ordered a beer. Then, even though I'd already had dinner (a big salad) I ended up eating chips and salsa and ordering a burrito. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 25, 2012, 01:05:03 PM
i could not resist chips and salsa!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 25, 2012, 01:35:33 PM
I had been able to! I made the mistake of eating my own food rather than following plan on Monday. I need to get further away from bad habits before I can wing it, I think. I followed plan to a t yesterday and had a much better day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Miss on April 25, 2012, 01:43:03 PM
So I was home last week for school vacation and I lost 5 lbs! 

My pedometer registered more than twice as many steps than I do during work weeks.  Work is obviously harmful to my health.  I better win Powerball soon.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 25, 2012, 02:16:17 PM
I think I'm going to run tonight after Reid goes to bed and do yoga tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 25, 2012, 02:48:53 PM
i can resist lots of things, but chips and salsa right in my face, probably not.

i had my second run and went outside, only nice day this week i think, and enjoyed it and am getting faster. if i lost some flubber, i would be even faster :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 25, 2012, 03:00:29 PM
And I have no power over chips and salsa. None. N.O.N.E. They're like crack to me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 25, 2012, 03:49:55 PM
And I have no power over chips and salsa. None. N.O.N.E. They're like crack to me.

yep.

I frickin' love the ones at Chili's.  I know that is low-class chain restaurant, but I always love what I get there.  Including the damn bottomless chips & salsa! Mmmmm. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 25, 2012, 03:51:16 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that restaurants aren't putting salt on their chips. They're lacing them with crack. They have to be.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 25, 2012, 06:52:16 PM
Did a 2.5 mile painful run.  Ouch.  I also ate a shit ton of yummy pasta. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Miss on April 25, 2012, 08:09:18 PM
Are y'all mad at me because I do drive by posts and don't validate or respond to anyone.


I'M SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :scream:







No really, I do apologize for my lack of participation in this thread.  It just overwhelms me.  I am better at the WLC threads.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 25, 2012, 09:28:30 PM
Miss, I drive-by post all the time. Drop in whenever, you're always welcome. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 25, 2012, 10:42:15 PM
I'm a drive-by poster too! Good for you for losing 5lbs, that is awesome! I don't think you can get your feelings hurt for a post not getting replies though. That happens in here sometimes but it doesn't mean we don't love you!

Oh, and, uh, apparently I was totally pmsing which explains why I had zero willpower on monday! (well, you know, that and the chips!)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on April 26, 2012, 09:12:04 AM
Anyone who can resist chips and salsa is much stronger than I am.  Love them.  As a matter of fact, I had Mexican last night.  I am holding around my lowest so I can't complain, but I would like to lose more.  Not sure if I am just slacking up or if I have not been as diligent or maybe the body adjusts to the new calories?  I'm still logging my food.  I still have a little over a month before beach trip and would be happy with losing 5 more so it should be doable if I kick it back into gear. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 26, 2012, 09:23:16 AM
60 miles a week + healthy eating = 1 pound gained, who knew????  :confused:

 :grr: :grr: :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 10:20:50 AM
Meri can attest to my suckiness this morning. Sorry, Meri!

*sigh* I have this feeling I'm at a point where I'm either going to get things in gear or totally backslide. The problem is, I don't know what it is that I need to do to push forward and stick with the changes I've made so far rather than letting myself slide.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 26, 2012, 10:53:34 AM
Do not get too hard on yourself, i am finally getting into a good workout groove after 3 yrs post partum and i do not work full time. If i lived closer i would have knocked on your door  8) it will get easier after a few weeks, but those first few weeks are tough!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 26, 2012, 10:57:48 AM
You have to decide what it is you truly want.   Weight loss is hard if you're not mentally/emotionally ready for it.

Be honest with  yourself.  Do you have the time/energy/desire to make the changes you need to make?  If you don't, that's okay.  Don't beat yourself up.  Work on preparing yourself to be ready to do it for real.     

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 11:01:42 AM
Caito, if I don't make these changes now, I never will. I'm at the point I've gotten to a hundred times before - the point where I backslide. I'm fucking sick of backsliding. But I genuinely have no idea what it is that pushes me that direction, instead of in the direction of maintaining the changes I've made and continuing to make more positive changes.

But whatever.

Thanks, Meri. :) I'll put my phone by the bed tonight instead of in the other room.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 26, 2012, 11:03:13 AM
60 miles a week + healthy eating = 1 pound gained, who knew????  :confused:

 :grr: :grr: :grr:

My experience is: the higher my mileage, the more likely there is weight gain.  I am hungry ALL the time with high mileage.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 26, 2012, 11:08:53 AM
Caito, if I don't make these changes now, I never will. I'm at the point I've gotten to a hundred times before - the point where I backslide. I'm fucking sick of backsliding. But I genuinely have no idea what it is that pushes me that direction, instead of in the direction of maintaining the changes I've made and continuing to make more positive changes.

But whatever.

Thanks, Meri. :) I'll put my phone by the bed tonight instead of in the other room.

People backslide because it's easy and comfortable.  Or at least, that's why I backslide.    What I mean about being ready is maybe finding a way to make other changes in your life to help you reach your goals.  Right now your job and your household duties leave you with this narrow early morning workout time which is very hard on you.   What if there was some way to really shake up your schedule or routine that helps put your weight goals at a higher priority?  It's major stuff, and yeah your DH would have to be on board.  Maybe it's not possible,  I'm just brainstorming here.

You've been struggling with this for awhile.  Your current set up maybe isn't working for you.  I'm trying to think of ways to help you break through.

I would also lik to propose that you get to go to some health/fitness resort and spa for a week to help you jumpstart.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 11:22:10 AM
If I had the money, I would love to go to a spa, but we don't. And I'm sorry I got snappy - I'm frustrated right now. Really, really frustrated. Mornings are the only time I can work out and I struggle mightily with that. It's going to be 94 here today - I'm going to go out tonight since I didn't get up this morning, but even at 8, it's still going to be warm, and that will just get worse as summer gets here. The gym is a zoo in the evenings - I'm there two nights a week already, so I know that. I also don't sleep well after an evening workout.

I have no idea how to shake up my schedule in a way that would work for my family and not cause heat stroke.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 26, 2012, 11:25:28 AM
Meri can attest to my suckiness this morning. Sorry, Meri!

*sigh* I have this feeling I'm at a point where I'm either going to get things in gear or totally backslide. The problem is, I don't know what it is that I need to do to push forward and stick with the changes I've made so far rather than letting myself slide.  :sigh:

Because, you know what? It's way effing easier to stick the donut in your mouth, or to go out for lunch, or to poor that glass of wine, than it is to say yes. That's the reality of it. Because food tastes good and because losing weight is hard work and it takes forever. I'm coming off a big backslide myself and not in a good headspace today and it's so easy to say "you know what? I've got a bunch of other crap going on and I don't have the energy to care right now". I thought that being on a plan where I like the food and that makes it easy was enough for me...but, you know what? It's not. It's super easy to get right back into the habit of a drink or two a day, a bit of candy here and there, enjoying the table bread and chips and salsa and eating out with my friends. I was home the week before last and was resolved to make that a week that counted (between trips) but then I ended up literally eating out like 9 meals in a row.

Jesus, I'm a little ray of sunshine, aren't I?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 11:29:15 AM
If you're a ray of sunshine, I'm a goddamn bolt of lightning in the middle of a massive thunderstorm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 26, 2012, 11:36:06 AM
Because, you know what? It's way effing easier to stick the donut in your mouth, or to go out for lunch, or to poor that glass of wine, than it is to say yes. That's the reality of it. Because food tastes good and because losing weight is hard work and it takes forever. I'm coming off a big backslide myself and not in a good headspace today and it's so easy to say "you know what? I've got a bunch of other crap going on and I don't have the energy to care right now". I thought that being on a plan where I like the food and that makes it easy was enough for me...but, you know what? It's not. It's super easy to get right back into the habit of a drink or two a day, a bit of candy here and there, enjoying the table bread and chips and salsa and eating out with my friends. I was home the week before last and was resolved to make that a week that counted (between trips) but then I ended up literally eating out like 9 meals in a row.

Jesus, I'm a little ray of sunshine, aren't I?

Yes yes yes.  At the same time I think it is important not to set ourselves up for failure.  It is easy for me to let those snowflakes of cheating or missing a workout turn into a blizzard of shame spiraling ice cream eating failure KWIM? I am an all or nothing person which rarely works well in practice for long.  I wish that balance was easier  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 26, 2012, 11:36:26 AM
I know how frustrating it is.    :hug:   I feel like my whole life is one big weight loss challenge.   I don't even have much to lose and it still feels like the biggest deal in the world and tears me up emotionally.   I beat myself up about it too.    I can only see my old body in the mirror, not the healthier more fit body.  Here I am 10 days away from a marathon, in the best shape of my life and I still worry about looking fat.   Looking fat on race day even!    And I still put things in my mouth that I KNOW I do not need just because they taste good, I'm hungry, I'm stressed, I "deserve" it, whatever.    When it comes to this stuff, we all still make chioces that we KNOW are not helping us reach our goals, and this is all to say how very fucking hard it is.   And it's not fair and it sucks!  And no one is saying "Oh it's just easy if you set your mind to it."  HELL NO.   :grr:

But how awesome would it be if we all could spend a week per month at the health and fitness spa! That would keep us on track so well!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 26, 2012, 11:38:53 AM
Our lives are set up to fit health and fitness in around everything else.   I wish it could be the other way around.
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Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 11:46:29 AM
That would be nice, caito, but it's just not my reality, unfortunately. :(
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Post by: caito on April 26, 2012, 12:02:28 PM
That would be nice, caito, but it's just not my reality, unfortunately. :(

I know.  It's rarely anyone's reality.    :(
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Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 12:05:12 PM
 :sigh: Sorry. I shut up now.
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Post by: caito on April 26, 2012, 12:07:43 PM
Don't shut up!  We're all venting!  :)     Venting helps, I swear.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 12:09:18 PM
Yeah, but I know it has to frustrate y'all, and I don't want to do that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 26, 2012, 12:29:46 PM
I once read somewhere that it can take months before a new good habit feels normal but it only takes a week or two of not doing it to break the habit again. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 26, 2012, 12:48:30 PM
Yes yes yes.  At the same time I think it is important not to set ourselves up for failure.  It is easy for me to let those snowflakes of cheating or missing a workout turn into a blizzard of shame spiraling ice cream eating failure KWIM? I am an all or nothing person which rarely works well in practice for long.  I wish that balance was easier  :(

True story. That is my biggest issue. Balance. I am 150% until I'm done. And then I'm done and I never look at it again. So, I'm all gung-ho and then I burn out. Story of my life (everywhere, everything). It is a minor miracle that I finished my degree, have lasted this long at my job, and still love horses. Seriously.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 12:58:34 PM
MM, that makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 26, 2012, 01:13:20 PM
Debba, I was going to post YAY for running on Tuesday! Each victory is important. Each time you don't meet your goal is NOT an excuse to just throw in the towel and say to hell with it. Because, then, what was the point of dragging yourself up on Tuesday for that run? Are you not worth it? (Cos you are, you know!!) Don't let that time be wasted. Plus, think of the SPAAAAAAAAA! :P I've been having trouble getting up early for my DVD workout. Monday and Tuesday just didn't happen. Worst thing was, I was off Monday and was planning on doing it before my dr appt at 11! But my mom was unexpectedly off and I just didn't have the gumption to do it with her there. Once I left the house at 10:30, I didn't get back till like 6pm and the day was wasted. :( So, I tried again Tuesday. Still too tired (not sleeping well lately. Might need to hit the melatonin for a bit.) Then finally, Weds- I got myself up! Today as well. I was late to work, but it was worth it. Just gotta do it twice more this week....

Food/drink haven't been toooo bad, but I am meeting a friend out for dinner at this place that has a million kinds of beer. I've budgeted just one (esp if I want to get up in the morning). The one decent veggie meal has 900 cals, though (it's a black bean wrap.) I'm going to see if I can get the sauce on the side and maybe light cheese (if it has it). And it comes with fries, so I've already decided to tell them just to bring me a handful of fries, not the whole plate full. They are yummy with the seasoning on them and hard to resist if they are just sitting there. Plan is to *try* to go for a run afterwards, so another reason I don't want to eat/drink too much...

Congrats on everyone's weight losses, though! Meri, how's it going post Mirena extraction? Feeling any better yet?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 26, 2012, 01:15:34 PM
Debba-- it is really hard. I am just so exhausted from work, DD, life, everything. Things got exponentially difficult after having a child, i could have never imagined. My only time to really get a workout in is 5am. It SUCKS. I do have the threat of Badwater over my head and awful training from last year haunting me. could you sign up for a race that would give you motivation to get up? Or how about not an all or nothing thing--- exercise every single day and i get a spa day, or nothing. That is too extreme and most people cannot fit into that mold. Reconsider what success is. 3/5 days?

I know how frustrating it is.    :hug:   I feel like my whole life is one big weight loss challenge.   I don't even have much to lose and it still feels like the biggest deal in the world and tears me up emotionally.   I beat myself up about it too.    I can only see my old body in the mirror, not the healthier more fit body.  Here I am 10 days away from a marathon, in the best shape of my life and I still worry about looking fat.   Looking fat on race day even!    And I still put things in my mouth that I KNOW I do not need just because they taste good, I'm hungry, I'm stressed, I "deserve" it, whatever.    When it comes to this stuff, we all still make chioces that we KNOW are not helping us reach our goals, and this is all to say how very fucking hard it is.   And it's not fair and it sucks!  And no one is saying "Oh it's just easy if you set your mind to it."  HELL NO.   :grr:

But how awesome would it be if we all could spend a week per month at the health and fitness spa! That would keep us on track so well!
dude Caito, i wish i still lived in Boston, we would be best friends :D You know what i am most concerned about at Badwater? not the heat, not the difficulty of the race, not puking my guts again and not eating for the last 35 miles, but how fat am i going to be on race day? Totally assanine indeed. wtf is wrong with us???????? and no matter what weight i am, i am CONSTANTLY thinking about my weight because i gain weight just thinking about fattening food, or at least it seems that way :D
My experience is: the higher my mileage, the more likely there is weight gain.  I am hungry ALL the time with high mileage.
so if i eat less, then everyone will say i am not eating enough. i really cannot win.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 26, 2012, 01:17:06 PM

Congrats on everyone's weight losses, though! Meri, how's it going post Mirena extraction? Feeling any better yet?
feeling pretty good. waiting for a period or something from the progesterone, just hopefully not next weekend at my marathon :D i was crampy in weird places but ok today. did not stop my running. i had to really push myself back on the treadmill this afternoon, i was falling asleep at the red light, but i did it and once i was on i felt great and after my shower and lunch, i feel good enough to work! LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 26, 2012, 01:33:16 PM
Back to the IBS issue, I think it might have been cycle related. Which is REALLY weird because I have been rock solid regular- 28 days, no PMS, no cramps for the last approx 2 years. Perhaps it's cycle+food. Well, in any case it's all better now. yay.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 01:37:46 PM
Thanks, y'all. And meri, yeah, I'm probably going to have to rethink success. Not sure how yet, though. I have so much to lose that I feel like I really need to be working out most days.

Tricia, I'm glad you're feeling better!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 26, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
meh, i think it is 90% diet, 10% exercise, or some really unbalanced ratio like that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 02:12:36 PM
I know they've done studies on the ratio of exercise to food in weight loss, but I just know from previous experience that I need a pretty decent amount of exercise to lose.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 26, 2012, 03:23:22 PM
meh, i think it is 90% diet, 10% exercise, or some really unbalanced ratio like that.

I know that for me personally, it's definitely a crazy ratio like that. 

I've mostly stopped reading fitness magazines, because all they do is make women feel bad about themselves (a rant for another day), but I still have a subscription to a couple, so I flip thru them to look for recipes and sometimes fun workout moves.  I was looking thru the Self mag a couple days ago and read about their "Drop 10" diet.  It's amazingly quite reasonable and doable.  I kind of like some of the ideas in it, and it's full of whole foods, yet there is room for a bit of a treat or splurge.  So I kept the mag (I normally toss them in recycle after about 20 seconds of flipping) and I want to read a bit more about it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 03:25:37 PM
Sounds interesting, Courtney - I'll be curious to know what you want to find out. If you want to share, of course. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 26, 2012, 03:50:09 PM
It's definitely all about the diet for me. I will go so far as to say I have to be careful with the excercise component because it makes me STARVING and if I'm not tracking everything I burn through everything I work off... and more. For me to loose- I need to work out for like 2 hours a day at least 5 days a week. THEN my metabolism is so high I almost can't keep weight on... but who has time for that? A little excercise here and there makes zero difference for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 26, 2012, 04:49:30 PM
It's definitely all about the diet for me. I will go so far as to say I have to be careful with the excercise component because it makes me STARVING and if I'm not tracking everything I burn through everything I work off... and more. For me to loose- I need to work out for like 2 hours a day at least 5 days a week. THEN my metabolism is so high I almost can't keep weight on... but who has time for that? A little excercise here and there makes zero difference for me.
i am working out 120-130 minutes 4 days a week, i am eating about 1800-2100 cals/day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 26, 2012, 04:57:02 PM
i am working out 120-130 minutes 4 days a week, i am eating about 1800-2100 cals/day.

I thought about clarifying that I know YOU aren't working ocassionally here or there. My comment was more pointed at the (general) recommendation to do 30-45 minutes of excercise 3 days a week. In my life- that does absolutely zilch for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 04:58:52 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm saying - that 30-45 min/3 days a week? Nope. I need to be working out at least 5 days.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 26, 2012, 05:03:39 PM
I fond that it really is mostly eating but I can really only get down into my healthy weight range by eating less than 1500 cals a day and working out 1-2 hours a day 6 days a week (with most of those days being closer to 2 than 1). That is how I got down to a reasonable weight last time. It frustrates me to no end because I want to be able to eat treats and not have to spend all my free time working out. That being said I am losing weight right now really slowly on about 1300 cals a day and I am only working out about an hour a day 4-5 days a week (plus 2 miles walking on my commute each day) but I know I have to kick up the exercise if I want to get back down to a healthy BMI (I am 30 pounds above that right now).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 26, 2012, 05:57:54 PM
I thought about clarifying that I know YOU aren't working ocassionally here or there. My comment was more pointed at the (general) recommendation to do 30-45 minutes of excercise 3 days a week. In my life- that does absolutely zilch for me.
yeah  i hear ya. i read these articles and wonder who they are going to help, cause i would gain weight with those recs :D

I fond that it really is mostly eating but I can really only get down into my healthy weight range by eating less than 1500 cals a day and working out 1-2 hours a day 6 days a week (with most of those days being closer to 2 than 1). That is how I got down to a reasonable weight last time. It frustrates me to no end because I want to be able to eat treats and not have to spend all my free time working out. That being said I am losing weight right now really slowly on about 1300 cals a day and I am only working out about an hour a day 4-5 days a week (plus 2 miles walking on my commute each day) but I know I have to kick up the exercise if I want to get back down to a healthy BMI (I am 30 pounds above that right now).
yeah, the reality is, i am going to have to cut the calories back some more. ugh. i am running 10+ miles a day, it is really hard to keep it lower, but i know i need to. When i lost most of my weight i was at the gym 2 hours a day on the elliptical and eating around 1100 cals. IT SUCKS.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 10:15:31 PM
Just got back from a shuffle. Eh, it went okay. Not great, not horrible. At least I went, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 26, 2012, 10:45:56 PM
Absolutely Debba!!  Yay for getting out there!  Enjoy how good it feels to have it done vs. how you would feel if you would have skipped it. 


I did some cleaning today, that was my exercise.  Should have done more but I'm still desperate for sleep when the kids nap.  At least my stomach seems to have settled down.  Tomorrow DH is working all day so I'll be wrangling the kids.... they've been in a fighting each other mood lately, hopefully that isn't too bad tomorrow.  I really need to kick my ass back into gear with my push-ups & ab work.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 26, 2012, 10:50:29 PM
Thanks, Bolloxd - glad you're feeling better! I can't imagine wrangling two toddlers. Just the one exhausts me. I'm in awe of you and other moms with multiples. My mind boggles at the thought.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 26, 2012, 11:00:38 PM

 yeah, the reality is, i am going to have to cut the calories back some more. ugh. i am running 10+ miles a day, it is really hard to keep it lower, but i know i need to. When i lost most of my weight i was at the gym 2 hours a day on the elliptical and eating around 1100 cals. IT SUCKS.

But what kind of weight were you losing? Muscle? Because 1100 cals is too low. Wayyyyy too low for someone running/working out as much as you. Do you want a smaller number at any cost or to BE smaller but fit? I find running does zilcho for me weight loss wise. I have to be weight training to see any loss (plus watching cals). I think 1400 or so is about my "sweet spot" where I can actually lose and still work out (I eat some of those cals back, though.)

Just got back from a shuffle. Eh, it went okay. Not great, not horrible. At least I went, right?

YES!!! *high five*! :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on April 26, 2012, 11:55:31 PM
Still getting my butt kicked by my DVDs, still eating well most of the time, and still not loosing a fucking lb :argh: :incazzato: I'm working out 6 days a week and have been eating good so I'm not to sure what else I can do :sigh: I'm considering going to 6 small meals a day but I get stuck on the planning and what to eat with that schedule.  Any thoughts from anybody?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 27, 2012, 12:09:05 AM
So I usually park really far away when I go to Costco, just so I can walk a bit more. So yesterday I had the cart loaded and I actually had to work to get it up a slight hill in the parking lot. Then I loaded about 30 gallons of milk into the car. I'm sore today!

Felt good. Maybe I'll actually run tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 27, 2012, 12:53:12 AM
I really really didn't want to run tonight but I went and did 5 miles.
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Post by: merigayle on April 27, 2012, 05:27:19 AM
good job Debba and MM! I wanted to stay in bed, but i was like, no, i have to give Debba a wake up call :D

I did not lose muscle, i was the fittest i ever was at that point and was getting by far the best race times i have ever had. I ate 1800 cals yesterday, and i ran for 70 minutes and 50 minutes yesterday, so probably 6 miles and 4+ miles.

I eat 4 meals a day, sometimes 5, as in i have breakfast in two parts and lunch in two parts, so i basically just divide it in two :D
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 27, 2012, 06:28:22 AM
I really really didn't want to run tonight but I went and did 5 miles.
This happened to me this week and I ended up with one of the best runs ever.. Hope your was good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 27, 2012, 07:22:23 AM
so 9 minutes into my run i look down and DD was standing there  :confused: never even heard her come down, 5:47am. I took her back up and got her back to sleep, after 20 minutes, and then finished my TM jaunt for 70 minutes. whew. And was texting Debba from DD's bed :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 27, 2012, 08:13:46 AM
so the other day while i was watching Biggest Loser on the TM, there was a hulu commercial for Brita with a former contestant from TBL and it was like, drink water lose weight, and the fine print said not in those under 55. weird, huh, that over 55 drinking more water can help you lose weight, but not under 55?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 27, 2012, 09:27:11 AM
Thanks, meri! I needed that! Shuffled a bit this morning, then came home and dozed off on the couch until my "normal" alarm went off. Heh.

Aaaaand, then DH was backing my car out of the garage and whacked the side passenger mirror off my car. :mad2: The post is still there, but the casing is gone and the mirror is shattered. I need a fucking drink.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 27, 2012, 09:58:33 AM
Down 3 lbs from the start of the week so feeling a little less panicky! But, still a ways from my low. Did well yesterday with food. Had a late evening meeting with some friends at a diner and was able to resist the pull of grilled cheese & fries and the slices of pie that everyone else had. I stuck to herbal tea.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 27, 2012, 10:00:50 AM
I'm impressed - I don't know if I'd be able to stick to herbal tea in the face of grilled cheese and fries.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 27, 2012, 10:06:21 AM
Good job for getting up debba! Is this where I say the new WLC concept is totally intimidating to me? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 27, 2012, 10:36:51 AM
Good job for getting up debba! Is this where I say the new WLC concept is totally intimidating to me? 

Well, Barry is probably lurking and he's probably going to charge you $10 just for saying that. :P
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Post by: onawhim on April 27, 2012, 10:39:25 AM
Well, Barry is probably lurking and he's probably going to charge you $10 just for saying that. :P

Good thing I am not doing it then  :D  It is not for me. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 27, 2012, 10:41:26 AM
Thanks, onawhim! :)

And yeah, I don't make enough money to do a WLC the Barry way!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 27, 2012, 11:12:09 AM
I'm impressed - I don't know if I'd be able to stick to herbal tea in the face of grilled cheese and fries.

Same here. I have no control when it comes to fries. See. Now I want fries.  :nono:

In other news, I ran 2 miles today!!!!!!!!!  :roll: I've been struggling the last few months to get my motivation back. I say I'll go, then back out because I just don't feel like it. It's an endless cycle. I know it'll help my mood, but then I'm just too sad or have no inclination to get out there in the first place. So I don't go. Then I feel worse. But today I did it!! I just decided to get out there and run to the one mile then turn around and come back. So I did.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 27, 2012, 11:17:06 AM
I ate lunch at 10:30.     :argh:    At least it was a salad with chicken and some almonds.   And now I feel satisfied. 

I am really struggling with trying not to eat too much because I am tapering and therefore not exercising as much and eating plenty because I have to fuel for my race in 9 days.    I want to be fueled but feel trim on race day. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 27, 2012, 11:22:17 AM
Good job, Tricia! Getting out there is, for me, the hardest part by far.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 27, 2012, 11:27:17 AM
I'm impressed - I don't know if I'd be able to stick to herbal tea in the face of grilled cheese and fries.

Well, to be fair, we were having a gut wrenching discussion about our friend who has gone off the deepend. I spend all afternoon calling hotels trying to find her to send the police to after she started giving her pets away. So, we go to a diner thinking it will be quiet and the gd waitress keeps coming by to take orders and fill coffee and stuff. I think Iglared at her enough times that she eventually gave up on us. So by the time I could even contemplate food she was nowhere to be found and I was actually a bit glad for it because I'm not sure I could have resisted.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 27, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
My comment was more pointed at the (general) recommendation to do 30-45 minutes of excercise 3 days a week.

I thought that had been debunked long ago:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2008/07/exercise-its-an.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2008/07/exercise-its-an.html)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 27, 2012, 11:28:44 AM
That makes more sense, but a situation like that would have had me knee-deep in fried foods and ice cream sundaes, so honestly, I'm even more impressed.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 27, 2012, 12:16:34 PM
great job Tricia!!! what is up with the WLC? I did not look.

Caito- you and I are running a marathon on the same day! I am doing NJ. What is your forecast? ours is 65-80, depending on where you look. As long as it is not rainy i am happy :)

RA- did you find your friend?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 27, 2012, 12:25:06 PM
Mine's in Rhode Island.  Weather.com says 50-67 and sunny, but I think it's really too soon to tell.  It starts at 7:30am so I'm hoping for the 50s.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 27, 2012, 12:33:26 PM
RA- did you find your friend?

Yes. It turned out she was with another friend last night so I did not call the police. I just told her that I'm happy to help her get help if she is willing to let me, but I'm unwilling to continue to talk in circles with her. I can't do this anymore.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 27, 2012, 12:41:44 PM
So I usually park really far away when I go to Costco, just so I can walk a bit more. So yesterday I had the cart loaded and I actually had to work to get it up a slight hill in the parking lot. Then I loaded about 30 gallons of milk into the car. I'm sore today!

Felt good. Maybe I'll actually run tomorrow.

I loved your pic on FB about that.  :D  RAWR!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 27, 2012, 01:26:23 PM
Mine's in Rhode Island.  Weather.com says 50-67 and sunny, but I think it's really too soon to tell.  It starts at 7:30am so I'm hoping for the 50s.
50's are perfect!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 27, 2012, 02:04:03 PM
Mine's in Rhode Island.  Weather.com says 50-67 and sunny, but I think it's really too soon to tell.  It starts at 7:30am so I'm hoping for the 50s.

Cox?

I was down 2 lbs this morning . That's a typical daily change for me but I didn't let it be an excuse for me to go out to lunch . I ate my sandwich . I think the strength training is paying off . I feel strong and tones!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 27, 2012, 02:26:20 PM
This happened to me this week and I ended up with one of the best runs ever.. Hope your was good.

No it sucked badly. I had a sore leg muscle from a cramp the night before so that didnt help. But I finished and that is all that matters.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on April 27, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
Thanks, onawhim! :)

And yeah, I don't make enough money to do a WLC the Barry way!

Awww.... he's all talk. I don't know whether people are really going to do the money thing, but if you want to be a part of it, please don't let that deter you. You can absolutely participate without paying any fees or fines.



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 27, 2012, 03:14:08 PM
:) I'm going to participate. But Lord knows I don't make enough for his fines.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 27, 2012, 04:06:51 PM
Good job debba for getting out there & shuffling!   You too tricia!!  Can I ask why you need 30 gal of milk!?

I had my first good long run since the relay.  I did 6.5 miles!  That is way more than what I was doing before the relay so I'm pretty darn happy.  I felt good for the most part.  I know I'm gonna be starving soon so I need to figure out a plan for dinner.

I'm not going to join the WLC but will definitely cheer you guys on.  I need to define a new goal for myself to work towards.  I just need to figure it out and work on the details.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: LizardMixture on April 27, 2012, 04:20:25 PM
FSM help me, I just signed up for the WLC.  It coincided with me getting pissed off enough to do something. I have my fitbit, my treadmill and tons of DFW.  I even dug up my scale from the storage unit.
Not sure how all the $$ penalty stuff will pan out? Seems a little odd but I'm sure it will all make sense. Guess if I gain weight and give Barry all my lunch money it won't be the worse thing in the world!  ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 27, 2012, 04:50:43 PM
I'm guessing Tricia's milk buy was for the coffee shop. I hope!

Good job on the 6.5 miles, Bolloxd!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 27, 2012, 06:21:10 PM
Yes, for the coffee shop!  :) I love getting it at Costco because it's in two-pack boxes that are easier to load and unload.

As an aside to that pic on FB, my brother posted, "why are you roaring? I don't get it." hahaha. ROAAWRRRR!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 27, 2012, 06:36:54 PM
Good job bolloxd! Dont u all leave me for the wlc  :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 27, 2012, 06:49:06 PM
Good job bolloxd! Dont u all leave me for the wlc  :-[
I'm not doing WLC!  It always seems to have the reverse effect on me for some reason!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 27, 2012, 08:57:51 PM
I won't leave this thread!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 27, 2012, 09:28:51 PM
Duh, coffee shop!  Yep, makes sense now.   
I'm sure all of you joining the WLC will rock it!

I'll be hanging around this thread for my daily updates since it's not officially WLC in here.  I surprised myself and actually did my push-ups routine this evening...the bad news is it has been so long that it was hard as hell, and I sucked.  At least it was the push I need to get back on track.



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 27, 2012, 11:57:13 PM
I like this thread. I just kind of wandered in recently and made myself at home. Hope that's ok!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 28, 2012, 05:50:47 AM
Duh, coffee shop!  Yep, makes sense now.   
I'm sure all of you joining the WLC will rock it!

I'll be hanging around this thread for my daily updates since it's not officially WLC in here.  I surprised myself and actually did my push-ups routine this evening...the bad news is it has been so long that it was hard as hell, and I sucked.  At least it was the push I need to get back on track.





Thanks for reminding me I have to do my pushups today!  Doing the 100 pushup challenge app on my iphone.. girly ones but it's still tough!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 28, 2012, 07:07:45 AM
I like this thread. I just kind of wandered in recently and made myself at home. Hope that's ok!
of course!  :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 28, 2012, 08:16:02 AM
It's more than okay, tricia! Come on in, hang out, and relax a bit!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 28, 2012, 10:06:23 AM
I saw an old pic if me on facebook last night. I want to look like that again!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208247_1051653806392_1077176706_648830_5118_n.jpg)

Why the hell did I think I was fat?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on April 28, 2012, 11:08:43 AM
Well hell...I have been mia for a while and I come back and see Trotter's thread. Bah.

I have been having a hell of a time lately. I am managing to keep up with the exercise, but my portions have been creeping up and I am seeing the result on the scale. I also have been eating a lot of breads, which wreak havoc on my digestion so I am not a happy camper.
I am going to restart logging everything I eat into mfp, and really try to eat small portions this weekend and see how it goes.

It is so hard to get back at it when you stumble.

I hope everyone is going good.

Today I think we are taking the boys to Clam Beach for a run, and then heading home to do yard work while the blue sky lasts.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on April 28, 2012, 11:21:52 AM
I am not leaving to do the WLC...this thread is my "go to".  You all are my peeps!  :lambie: :lambie:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 28, 2012, 11:29:33 AM
I had cheese dip, salsa and chips + tortillas for dinner last night. :( I split them with a friend at least, but still. I haven't run since last Saturday. I do plan on running today (soon). I need to do my dvd workout, too. Waiting for a late breakfast and coffee to settle. Going to order the bridesmaid dresses at 3 today. :)

R- glad you found your friend! Sounds scary. You are right to say you will support, but not enable. Other people's drama is hard to deal with without getting sucked in.

Tricia- good job on the 2 miles! It's a start. :) Try to remember that good feeling when you're talking yourself out of a run. I find that helps!

And yay to all the other good runs lately! I need to get a pre-work routine, but it's been so hard with this damn commute. Getting up at 4 after getting home at 7 the night before just doesn't work well for me. This week, my brain has been in overdrive at bed time. I can hardly get to sleep by midnight.  :nono: Three.more.weeks!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 28, 2012, 11:30:26 AM
I am not leaving to do the WLC...this thread is my "go to".  You all are my peeps!  :lambie: :lambie:

1!! (Though, I did throw my hat in for the wlc. I won't be doing the payments, though! Sorry, barry.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 28, 2012, 11:32:07 AM
Yeah, I'm going to do the WLC, too, but I don't make enough money to be paying Barry every time I gain. Or, I could just, y'know, LOSE weight. There's a thought.  :!: But no way in hell am I leaving this thread!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 28, 2012, 11:38:02 AM
I saw an old pic if me on facebook last night. I want to look like that again!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208247_1051653806392_1077176706_648830_5118_n.jpg)

Why the hell did I think I was fat?

I did the same! I found an old buff pic of myself and put it back as my profile pic.. something to shoot for.. I'm actually almost there.  I love how my arms and shoulders look in the photo.. hence the '100 push up challenge'
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 28, 2012, 02:58:40 PM
Try to remember that good feeling when you're talking yourself out of a run. I find that helps!


YES! I was just talking about this with someone today. While I was running I told myself that. Remember this feeling. This is what makes you happy. This is what makes you feel good. This is what helps lift the sadness, drop the blood pressure, open up the lungs. I'm already thinking about whether I'll be able to go back out tonight or tomorrow morning.  :runner:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 28, 2012, 03:08:53 PM
so, in the middle of my super busy day at work, i got my period. Really got my period and i work with two women who do not believe in tampons. i had a stash of panty liners in the cupboard luckily. But maybe once my period is over i will see a budge in the scale. trying to be optimistic. i am dying too, the cramps are killing me, hope they are better before tomorrow's long run, will take advil tomorrow if need be.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 28, 2012, 03:37:53 PM
so, in the middle of my super busy day at work, i got my period. Really got my period and i work with two women who do not believe in tampons. i had a stash of panty liners in the cupboard luckily. But maybe once my period is over i will see a budge in the scale. trying to be optimistic. i am dying too, the cramps are killing me, hope they are better before tomorrow's long run, will take advil tomorrow if need be.

OMG!   who doesn't believe in tampons?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 28, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
OMG!   who doesn't believe in tampons?
people who are crazier hippies than me!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 28, 2012, 04:47:11 PM
people who are crazier hippies than me!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

LOL!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 28, 2012, 04:56:05 PM
one only uses momma cloth.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 28, 2012, 07:52:25 PM
one only uses momma cloth.

Yes, they tried to sell me something like that in the health food store.  Tried to let me know how bad I was for the environment for using tampons.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 28, 2012, 09:05:38 PM
people who are crazier hippies than me!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

My SIL is one of these people! She's made (as in sewn!!) her own "pads" and when I visit, they are usually hanging out to dry on the clothes rack in the guest room.....  :nono:

Tampons are cotton ffs!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: LizardMixture on April 28, 2012, 09:10:10 PM
My SIL is one of these people! She's made (as in sewn!!) her own "pads" and when I visit, they are usually hanging out to dry on the clothes rack in the guest room.....  :nono:

Tampons are cotton ffs!!

Um.... so are they white or do they get stained???  :nono: Not exactly a pleasant addition to a guest room.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 28, 2012, 09:52:01 PM
Um.... so are they white or do they get stained???  :nono: Not exactly a pleasant addition to a guest room.

No they were a plaid (?) kind of fabric. I forget. I didn't really investigate too closely.  :vomit:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 28, 2012, 10:42:38 PM
In the guest room?!!!

GROSS!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 29, 2012, 06:11:09 AM
i would use momma cloth, EXCEPT i detest wearing a pad, it just feels dirty. Actually a woman on a cloth diapering forum i went to while DD was still in diapers was experimenting with making cloth tampons, i should track her down and see how it went, but really, i like my cardboard OB tampons. The worst thing post partum was wearing pads!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 29, 2012, 07:06:02 AM
i would use momma cloth, EXCEPT i detest wearing a pad, it just feels dirty. Actually a woman on a cloth diapering forum i went to while DD was still in diapers was experimenting with making cloth tampons, i should track her down and see how it went, but really, i like my cardboard OB tampons. The worst thing post partum was wearing pads!!!!!

The tampons would look better in the guest room, for sure.   :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 29, 2012, 10:12:09 AM
The diva cup is great.  I hate wearing pads. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 29, 2012, 11:18:06 AM
i would use momma cloth, EXCEPT i detest wearing a pad, it just feels dirty. Actually a woman on a cloth diapering forum i went to while DD was still in diapers was experimenting with making cloth tampons, i should track her down and see how it went, but really, i like my cardboard OB tampons. The worst thing post partum was wearing pads!!!!!

I would worry about TSS with something homemade.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 29, 2012, 11:34:00 AM
I would worry about TSS with something homemade.

Yes...it needs to be sterile to be going up there. And you cannot adequately sterilize something at home.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 29, 2012, 01:07:19 PM
don't fear, i am not going to use a homemade tampon!!! i just bought some more OBs :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 29, 2012, 01:08:43 PM
d'oh! i totally forgot, i came here to post this great post by my hero Mayim Bialik. This is how i feel with other runners, how she does with actresses. I know i am not far or even overweight, but when i am around a bunch of petite and tiny runners, i feel like an elephant.

http://christinamkelly.blogspot.com/2010/05/fps-first-guest-blogger-mayim-bialik.html?m=1 (http://christinamkelly.blogspot.com/2010/05/fps-first-guest-blogger-mayim-bialik.html?m=1)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on April 29, 2012, 03:22:59 PM
I think the diva cup is a better option if people are concerned about waste and such.  Th thought of using cloths as pads or *gasp*  as a homemade tampon is not for me.

I had an excellent step class today.  I am sore sore sore from yesterdays Jillian Dvd. (no more trouble zones).  My glutes are very sore today. Tonight is our turn for cook Sunday dinner, and we are having grilled pork tenderloin on a bed of spinach with heart of palm, black bean, corn and cilantro. It is pretty light over all.

Tomorrow we have our blood draw for life insurance application first thing in the am.  :nurse2:

I love Mayim Bialik. She is a smart and interesting person. And I love her on Big Bang Theory.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 29, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
DD is napping on the living room floor so i cannot get anything done (dishes, cleaning, sewing, etc) as it would wake her, grrrrr. oh well.

i would have no problem with momma cloth pads, but i hate pads, i think they are icky. we did cloth diapers, so i cannot imagine it is much worse than that :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 29, 2012, 07:14:44 PM
d'oh! i totally forgot, i came here to post this great post by my hero Mayim Bialik. This is how i feel with other runners, how she does with actresses. I know i am not far or even overweight, but when i am around a bunch of petite and tiny runners, i feel like an elephant.

http://christinamkelly.blogspot.com/2010/05/fps-first-guest-blogger-mayim-bialik.html?m=1 (http://christinamkelly.blogspot.com/2010/05/fps-first-guest-blogger-mayim-bialik.html?m=1)


That was a very good post by her.  I feel the same way. And I usually am attracted to male runners.. but would never pursue since I feel so big compared to even the male ones!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 29, 2012, 07:56:46 PM
That was a very good post by her.  I feel the same way. And I usually am attracted to male runners.. but would never pursue since I feel so big compared to even the male ones!
i know how you feel. But even though I have been married for 8 years, a handful of male runners have hit on me over the years (and one quite recently!) and i am surprised, because they are like 110lbs soaking wet :D but hey, everyone has their type. I think a lot of the races I run, atleast in the past, were very heavily male dominated fields and i was the rare girl, and young. LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 29, 2012, 10:40:25 PM
We spent last night out in the backyard 'camping' with the kids just as a test to see how they'd handle it.  So if we needed to come in for anything there would be no problems, etc.  1st mistake was that it was too freaking cold.  We crawled in the tent around 9:30, they squirmed and played till around 10:30 or 11:00.  We were all so uncomfortable, they both ended up laying right on top of me.  One on each side, I could not move at all.  Around 4:00 Rachel wanted to get up & play.  We slept a little longer but I woke up after their diapers leaked through their clothes and onto me. 

Instead of exercising during their nap today I crashed for a bit too.  Then made food & cleaned for my parents visiting.  At least the weather today has been great. 

I'd really like to run a local 5K this weekend, but DH is whining about possibly not being able to join me (even though he's not trained at all nor is he interested in getting the kids used to the stroller or anything else that would make the race enjoyable).  Some days I'd like to just pop him on the head but 99% of the time he's very easy going which makes it tough to get wound up.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 29, 2012, 10:48:06 PM
I weighed in today and I made it past the 10 pounds lost mark! And that was after way too much alcohol yesterday. Hoping for an even better week this next week. 15 more weeks and 16 more pounds to reach my mini goal of being back in the 150s.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 29, 2012, 11:53:19 PM
Great job MM!!

I got on the scale 2 days ago and realized I am down 3 pounds. YES!!! The weight has been creeping up the last fews weeks and I was about at my breaking point. That was a nice nudge to hopefully get me back on track.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 30, 2012, 01:58:06 AM
Today was not the best day in terms of eating. Actually, it was a great day in terms of eating... but not if the plan is weightloss. There was brunch, ice cream, 3 hours beach stroll, wine tasting and cheese, dinner (pasta, more chees, beer), and pb pretzles. So. Yeah.

WTG MM and Tricia!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 30, 2012, 07:32:01 AM
great job everyone! bolloxd- it has been super cold her at night. I would like to camp with her in the backyard one day. We made a tent in the living room yesterday with a big blanket, etc, like a fort, to nap in.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 30, 2012, 07:39:22 AM
I went to the lake with my mom this weekend.  She is so nervous about my marathon and so she kept feeding me. She says I need to eat like crazy this week so I have enough energy.  :D

I'm trying to find a good balance of eating well and enough but not overeating.  I'm not even hungry this morning because I ate so much yesterday. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 30, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
i think i am down a pound  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 30, 2012, 09:05:49 AM
Awesome job, MM and Tricia! And Bolloxd, you're a better woman than I am. The thought of sleeping in a tent with Reid....  :nono: No way in hell.

I was a giant slug this morning. Starting over (again) tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 30, 2012, 09:17:05 AM
MM that is excellent! 
Meri - woohoo!
caito - that is sweet. 
Debba - do what you can and try not to beat yourself up.  :hug:

Yeah, I think if we had a decent sleeping arrangement then camping would be better...still, I'd rather practice more while at home than in the wilderness somewhere.  It just reminds me of how much I love my bed.  I also wonder what is wrong with those people who actually enjoy camping.  :skep:

My plan for today is a run during nap time.  Also to hopefully clean the house because it is never-ending and is looking ragged.  For now I need to figure out something breakfast.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 30, 2012, 09:38:42 AM
I hate camping! 

Good work everyone  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 30, 2012, 10:28:18 AM
I didn't mind going to summer camp, where there was no a/c, but at least we had vaguely crappy bunk beds in a cabin as opposed to tents. I don't know that I could handle tents.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 30, 2012, 10:29:49 AM
I hate camping! 

1!! (Unless we're camping inside a hotel with beds and electricity and bathrooms!)

Tricia, I bet it was the run that made all the difference! Good job! :D
Meri-  :w00t:
MM- 10lbs! Nice job! It seems like you and I have pretty much the same goal, too.

And on that note... I'm struggling not to eat my lunch already. I'm eating my afternoon snack (almonds) right now.  :grr: I don't have any students until 12:30 (special program going on today), so I could  theoretically eat anytime. I skipped doing my DVD this morning (just couldn't motivate myself out of bed!) so it's not post-workout hunger or anything... Argh. I need to get back to it, esp since my IT band is giving me trouble again. It was better after ART and last weekend I ran a 5k with no problems. I didn't run at all last week and now it started to hurt after 1 mile! I made it to 2.35 before I had to call it quits and walk the rest of the way home (2.5 mi). Next ART appt isn't until Thurs (due to school/his schedule). Should I get a foam roller? The only time I used one, it hurt a LOT and my leg ached for a couple of weeks. I'm kind of scared.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on April 30, 2012, 11:35:02 AM
Lanarkshire, foam rollers are magic.  If you have IT band problems, you definitely should get one.  They do hurt at first, but they really help in the long run.  I also found that I had more troubles with my IT band when I wasn't consistent with my training.  I would definitely have had more problems taking a week off than if I'd run two or three times during the week. Good luck, I hope you get it figured out soon!

I'm on Day #6 after having my tonsils out.  I haven't been able to eat much, mainly popsicles and a little bit of mashed potatoes.  I've lost 5# so far.  The weather is perfect and I wish I could at least go for a walk, but no physical activity for two weeks.  After this is all over, I hope to work really hard to maintain whatever I lose. I suspect that will be very challenging!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on April 30, 2012, 11:48:47 AM
I have *got* to look into getting my tonsils out. ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 30, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
Thanks, nadra! Interesting.. I was thinking that giving it rest would be better! I will get the foam roller this week for sure. Did/do you use it every day? Or just when it hurts? After a run? 10 minutes? 30 mins?

Glad you are feeling better and recovering!

I have *got* to look into getting my tonsils out. ;)

I know, right?? I totally wasted it on when I was 11. I was already skinny back then!  >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 30, 2012, 12:12:12 PM
Thanks, nadra! Interesting.. I was thinking that giving it rest would be better! I will get the foam roller this week for sure. Did/do you use it every day? Or just when it hurts? After a run? 10 minutes? 30 mins?

Glad you are feeling better and recovering!

I know, right?? I totally wasted it on when I was 11. I was already skinny back then!  >:(


Your ART person didnt show you when and how to use it? They really should. Ask next time you go in.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on April 30, 2012, 12:29:36 PM
Thanks, nadra! Interesting.. I was thinking that giving it rest would be better! I will get the foam roller this week for sure. Did/do you use it every day? Or just when it hurts? After a run? 10 minutes? 30 mins?

Glad you are feeling better and recovering!

I know, right?? I totally wasted it on when I was 11. I was already skinny back then!  >:(


Yeah, you'd think rest would help, but I noticed that too much time off just made it worse for me.  Go figure.  When I had IT band problems, I used my foam roller after every run, until I felt the knots releasing.  When it was really bad I'd use the roller, stretch a bit, run, roll, and stretch again. I usually run in the evening, so I wasn't stretching cold muscles with that first pre-run stretch.  Generally I roll until it doesn't hurt anymore, maybe 5-10 minutes?  It's been a while since I had IT band problems so I can't remember exactly.  When you first start rolling, it will take longer than when you've been doing it for a while.  Mostly you want to make sure you're breaking up any scar tissue, since that's what is giving you the pain in the first place.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 30, 2012, 12:42:46 PM
I am trying to decide if I should do the WLC.  I usually do not weigh myself and am mostly just trying to be consistent with exercise. I guess I can try it and drop out if it gives me too much anxiety.   :nails:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 30, 2012, 01:02:00 PM
I got a 'massage stick' from Target for $15 the other week.  It has 3 blue spiky balls on it (the jokes are endless).  The thing is GREAT!  I should have gotten one sooner.  I do however now have a lot of bruising on my legs from using it.  There are still knots so I just use it when I'm settled down for the evening.  I'm thinking an actual foam roller would be beneficial too.

I agree with nadra that when I take extended amounts of time for a break then things get achy all over again.  I've found just pushing through it a little bit longer works for the best - unless the pain is extremely unbearable.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on April 30, 2012, 01:06:45 PM
I have the foam roller and the stick! The roller is awesome for my legs and I use it along my upper back as well. I use the stick mostly for my neck and shoulder blades, shoulders.

I am still really sore in my glutes! I have to ease my self into the chair, and going to the bathroom sucks! (that extra inch of lowering is for the birds)

Way to go Meri and MM!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 30, 2012, 02:39:09 PM
Mouse - sore is good, right?  That's what I tell myself even if it does suck.

I only got to run 2 miles since the kids have decided not to nap & DH is at work.  Oh well, guess they'll crash early tonight.  I'm planning on a basil chicken concoction for tonight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 30, 2012, 02:54:44 PM
I got a 'massage stick' from Target for $15 the other week.  It has 3 blue spiky balls on it (the jokes are endless).  The thing is GREAT!  I should have gotten one sooner.  I do however now have a lot of bruising on my legs from using it.  There are still knots so I just use it when I'm settled down for the evening.  I'm thinking an actual foam roller would be beneficial too.

I agree with nadra that when I take extended amounts of time for a break then things get achy all over again.  I've found just pushing through it a little bit longer works for the best - unless the pain is extremely unbearable.
DD's yoga instructor got that massage stick!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on April 30, 2012, 08:38:46 PM
I made this tonight and it was fantastic!  http://www.thaitable.com/thai/recipe/chicken-basil (http://www.thaitable.com/thai/recipe/chicken-basil)   I added a couple Tbsp of cream of coconut to the chicken and to the rice.  It was great and easy.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 30, 2012, 11:04:43 PM
Hi y'all. Drive by posting b/c we're in FL for 2 more days so there is little chance for eating healthfully or exercising.  I'll get back on the wagon with you in a few days.

Congrats to all the progress I'm reading about in here!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on April 30, 2012, 11:39:43 PM
I just ordered a new bikini online. If that's not incentive... :nails:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 30, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
I've never in my life owned, or considered owning, a bikini!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 01, 2012, 12:00:45 AM
I've never in my life owned, or considered owning, a bikini!

I own a couple that I bought last year. And then I promptly gained weight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 05:27:02 AM
i do not even own a full bathing suit  :-[ i actually did try some on the other day, sigh. i was a lifeguard for so many years, but generally wore 1 pieces.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 01, 2012, 06:43:24 AM
I have a total mom bathing suit. And I'm going to have to wear it in public this weekend for Reid's first swim lesson.  :-[  :'(

Anyone ever tried the Land's End bathing suits? I was looking at them online the other night and they have some cute ones, but at my current size, it's hard to tell how supportive they might be, you know?

ETA: Oh, and yes, that time stamp is right. Just got back from a shuffle.  :sleepy: :luvcoffee:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on May 01, 2012, 06:49:59 AM
I have a total mom bathing suit. And I'm going to have to wear it in public this weekend for Reid's first swim lesson.  :-[  :'(

Anyone ever tried the Land's End bathing suits? I was looking at them online the other night and they have some cute ones, but at my current size, it's hard to tell how supportive they might be, you know?

ETA: Oh, and yes, that time stamp is right. Just got back from a shuffle.  :sleepy: :luvcoffee:

I had one that I liked.  My criterion was how long it would last in chlorinated water, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 07:08:44 AM
good job this morning, Debba!! i did buy a bathing suit top (tankini kind) last year and never found bottoms i liked, i just wore it with a running skirt, LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on May 01, 2012, 07:14:39 AM
I have a total mom bathing suit. And I'm going to have to wear it in public this weekend for Reid's first swim lesson.  :-[  :'(

Anyone ever tried the Land's End bathing suits? I was looking at them online the other night and they have some cute ones, but at my current size, it's hard to tell how supportive they might be, you know?

ETA: Oh, and yes, that time stamp is right. Just got back from a shuffle.  :sleepy: :luvcoffee:

I have one (well, it's sort of a tankini-style two piece) that I like but there's no way I could have bought it online since I probably tried on 50 different suits before choosing it. They sell the Land's End suits at Sears (and the one near me actually had a huge selection last year) so you could try checking them out there first.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 01, 2012, 07:37:10 AM
I think Lands End bathing suits are great.  Good coverage, supportive, high quality, they fit me well and they even come in cute styles and prints!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: mango on May 01, 2012, 07:58:10 AM
I bought my two-piece bathing suit--a tankini top and a swim skirt--at TJ Maxx, but didn't like the skirt, so I bought a different swim skirt at Kohl's.

i did buy a bathing suit top (tankini kind) last year and never found bottoms i liked, i just wore it with a running skirt, LOL.

This is such a wonderful idea! 

In other news, I just saw some photos from my marathon last week, and man oh man, they were quite humbling and humiliating. Surely, I can't be that big.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 08:01:31 AM


In other news, I just saw some photos from my marathon last week, and man oh man, they were quite humbling and humiliating. Surely, I can't be that big.  :nono:
i am pretty sure, and i am not just saying this, that a lot of the photos at marathons are taken with wide angle lenses. Some are and some are not, and i really tell the difference. weird to see two different race photos from the same race and one i look great and the other i look like a cow!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on May 01, 2012, 08:43:41 AM
Good job Deb!!

Mango, I think Meri is correct about the wide angle lens. I never look at the photos taken at the race, unless they are by friends. (who know which side is my good side, ha)

I meet with my trainer in less than an hour, then off to work. I will also try to hit step class tonite. I feels nice to walk normally. That Jillian dvd killed my legs.

I have several bathing suits. I prefer 2 pieces, and have gotten some nice suits from Title Nine. They have decent bottom coverage, and good tops for support.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on May 01, 2012, 09:36:07 AM
I got my suit from Nordstrom online. It's this one: Freya Pier bikini (http://=http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/freya-pier-underwire-halter-bikini-top-extended-sizes/3153977?cm_cat=datafeed&cm_ite=freya_%27pier%27_underwire_halter_bikini_top_%28extended_sizes%29:338004&cm_pla=swimwear:women:swim_top&cm_ven=Froogle&mr:referralID=NA&mr:trackingCode=BC56E674-71E1-E011-8116-001517B1882A). This was the only suit I could find that makes tops in 34FF. I've been "getting by" with the wrong size, but we're going to the Dominican Republic for our mini-honey moon in Aug, so I need something that fits and looks gooood! :P

As for being scared to wear one, I never did until my ex encouraged me to do so (even when I was a skinny kid!) The one positive thing he did for me. :) As long as the suit fits, generally they look good on most anyone, I think. :) Be brave! Remember, allllll the other women are probably as self-conscious as you and too busy worrying about how they look to notice how YOU look!

Well, this morning was another fail for getting up to do my DVD. Ugh. I woke up, but just couldn't get my arse outta bed in time. If I could get up by 6, that would be better. I would be late for work, though. :( 2 1/2 more weeks and I will have that flexibility. Food wise, so far so good. I had a morningstar sausage patty with my cereal this morning and it seems to be keeping me fuller. Normally, I only have them on days I workout in the morning. Maybe I won't even eat my snack...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 01, 2012, 10:13:15 AM
It's PMS week for me.  And taper.  I feel fat.  I don't wanna feel fat on race day, but I'm preparing myself mentally to just put it out of my mind and remind myself that how I look doesn't fucking matter.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 01, 2012, 10:47:18 AM
Hell, if I could wear a bikini, I would, but that would blind people, so... no. :) Good to hear about the Land's End suits, though. I'll do a little more digging around and see what I can find.

Bonus day off right now - got to work and the building's power was out. I guess a transformer blew or something? If I'd known, I'd have gone running now instead of at 5 AM, and I wouldn't have dressed nice today!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 11:38:27 AM
It's PMS week for me.  And taper.  I feel fat.  I don't wanna feel fat on race day, but I'm preparing myself mentally to just put it out of my mind and remind myself that how I look doesn't fucking matter.
just stay away from the wide angle lenses!  :sneaking:

i am gearing up for run #2. I just dropped DD off and settled in on the couch to check messages, etc while having a brief snack. It is going to be hard to peel myself off of here :D I will, but i will not like it !
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 01, 2012, 11:41:03 AM
I have a total mom bathing suit. And I'm going to have to wear it in public this weekend for Reid's first swim lesson.  :-[  :'(

Anyone ever tried the Land's End bathing suits? I was looking at them online the other night and they have some cute ones, but at my current size, it's hard to tell how supportive they might be, you know?

ETA: Oh, and yes, that time stamp is right. Just got back from a shuffle.  :sleepy: :luvcoffee:

OH! I have a Lands End tankini with underwire up top, and I love it.  It's the best, most supportive swim suit I've ever had.  When I swim, go to the pool, or lake, etc, I really manage not to worry about looking fat most of the time, because I am so busy swimming or playing with the kiddos (which often includes running or jumping) so this swimsuit is seriously awesome.  I am planning to buy another one so I have a couple to alternate.  Mine has the straps that can be halter, or straight, etc.  I don't like halter top, so I always do the straight way. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on May 01, 2012, 12:49:43 PM
I need a new swimsuit for my honeymoon to Hawaii.  Right now I wear a sports bra and stretchy tank top over a bikini bottom, because I couldn't find a supportive enough top.  Kenyan wants me to look for a bikini, but I think I'll be too self-conscious to wear one even if I lose weight between now and then, and all the ones I've tried on lately have had no support up top at all!  I will check out Land's End and see if they have anything I like.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 01, 2012, 12:52:30 PM
Athleta, while pricy, is also good for supportive tops with good coverage. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 01:32:15 PM
my run actually KICKED ASS and i was on the TM for 70 minutes. Now i am running really late for work... BYE !!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: LizardMixture on May 01, 2012, 02:14:48 PM
Athleta, while pricy, is also good for supportive tops with good coverage

I keep looking at the Athleta bathing suit tops. Are they the ones that look like sports bras?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 01, 2012, 02:35:57 PM
Those, or the ones that are more halter top like...  or any of the bra cup tops.

They just look like your boob isn't going to pop out of them when you move around! 

Even this one, which is way more skimpy that I'd be comfy with even if I wasn't so chubby, looks solid, like it's going to support you and not flash the world!
(http://www3.assets-gap.com/webcontent/0004/351/780/cn4351780.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 01, 2012, 02:57:59 PM
I've worn the Athleta ones before - I don't think I'd fit into one now, but 20 pounds ago I did, and looked pretty damn hot, TYVM.

Courtney, do you know which Land's End tankini you got?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 01, 2012, 03:06:56 PM
I have some Atheta tankini tops and I don't think they make them with large breasted women in mind.    One of them I bust out of.  On the model it looked perfectly normal.    Another one (a halter) is more supportive and has better coverage, but Lands End is way more reliable.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 01, 2012, 03:20:01 PM
Oh I like that one Courtney!  I have such a hard time trying on bathing suits.  Buying them online would mean a lot of returns.  I have one already from Target but it is for wearing at home and not really in public.  I need some support & lift now more than ever, since losing the weight everything is sagging. :(   I used to have awesome boobs, not such much anymore. 

I got a lot of errands done this morning so I'm feeling productive.  It's after 3 & the kids are just laying down to nap....probably should keep them up but we'd all be super cranky.  I got 3 gallons of beautiful strawberries this morning that I need to make things with & also freeze a butt load for use in the winter.  DH & I just double-teamed the SUV to clean it up and try to sell.  We're thinking that if it sells for a reasonable price we'll get a cross-over type car to replace it - something with better gas mileage that we'll all still fit into.  I'm trying to get my furniture sold too for some extra cash & to replace it. 


Meri - so glad you had a good run!  I am inspired daily by your dedication.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: LizardMixture on May 01, 2012, 04:56:42 PM
Yeah, that one is nice. A little more coverage than some.
Bolloxd - Oddly I have had no problem shopping online with Victoria's Secret bathing suits. I have a couple but they just feel skimpy to me now. But I am a little unsure about Athleta, especially since I've bought only one thing from them (a skort) and had to return it.

So what do you do with strawberries? I always get excited and buy the big tub but they go bad before I get a chance to eat them :(

Good vibes on selling your stuff.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 04:59:00 PM
I've got Badwater hanging over my head and after being there last year, i know i need to step up my game. when badwater is over? who knows, LOL.


(http://www.runwithreza.org/images/badwater.gif)

 :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 01, 2012, 05:10:55 PM
Me in a bikini=  :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 01, 2012, 05:13:27 PM
Meri you're a champion with or without Badwater!

LM - I'm currently making a strawberry cheesecake.  I will probably make some jelly, sorbet, more fruity desserts, and then freeze some to make smoothies with later.  Or even use them for anything else I can think of in the winter or when they are more expensive.  I do the same with blueberries and peaches when they come into season.  There is a place just a couple miles from us that sells them. 

I need to spend several hours going around multiple shops before I find a bathing suit I'm truly happy with...finding that time is always difficult though.  I suck at clothes shopping in general so bathing suit shopping is torture.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 05:25:54 PM
Me in a bikini=  :yikes:
dude! agreed. no matter my weight, most my thighs look like cottage cheese  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 01, 2012, 05:37:34 PM
dude! agreed. no matter my weight, most my thighs look like cottage cheese  :sigh:

I have just learned to accept that. Most grown women look that way.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 01, 2012, 05:54:13 PM
I hate hate hate that I squandered away my young hot body years thinking I was fat. :( I could have totally worn a bikini then.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on May 01, 2012, 05:59:59 PM
Even this one, which is way more skimpy that I'd be comfy with even if I wasn't so chubby, looks solid, like it's going to support you and not flash the world!
(http://www3.assets-gap.com/webcontent/0004/351/780/cn4351780.jpg)

this is a comfy top, fyi.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 01, 2012, 06:06:25 PM
I had one of the Athleta bra-cup-sized tankini tops a few years ago. I wouldn't have gone lap-swimming in it or anything, but it held the girls in well enough for an afternoon at the pool and was cute and pretty darn comfy, to boot.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 01, 2012, 06:08:58 PM
I've worn the Athleta ones before - I don't think I'd fit into one now, but 20 pounds ago I did, and looked pretty damn hot, TYVM.

Courtney, do you know which Land's End tankini you got?

I don't see the one I have on there anymore.  :( 

But I used the filters on the left to look at the ones with underwire, and there are some I like:

(http://s7.landsend.com/is/image/LandsEnd/409940_AH12_F1_UX3?)

I need adjustable straps, because I think I'm short from shoulder to bust or something.  I always have to adjust stuff up. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 01, 2012, 06:09:57 PM
Cool - thanks for the tips! I had just sort of randomly looked at their website the other night and wondered...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 01, 2012, 06:23:12 PM
I don't think you'll be disappointed.  You order the ones with underwire by bra size, if I remember right.  The one I got has a neckline similar to the one I posted.  It manages to seriously be supportive and look pretty darn good at the same time.  My cleavage is probably my best attribute, so I don't mind flaunting it a bit under the right circumstances  :D  So fair warned, if you are chesty, most of these will show a bit of cleavage, but there is no danger of a boob popping loose! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 01, 2012, 06:30:43 PM
If I'm chesty?? :sidesplit:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 01, 2012, 06:32:58 PM
If I'm chesty?? :sidesplit:

 :preen:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on May 01, 2012, 06:36:31 PM
I don't see the one I have on there anymore.  :( 

But I used the filters on the left to look at the ones with underwire, and there are some I like:

(http://s7.landsend.com/is/image/LandsEnd/409940_AH12_F1_UX3?)

I need adjustable straps, because I think I'm short from shoulder to bust or something.  I always have to adjust stuff up.

That's similar to the one I have and like. My only problem is that I had to get the band way too loose in order to have the cups fit. But I wear a 34DD bra so that's probably unavoidable. I need to see if that's something a tailor could fix for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 07:01:52 PM
that suit is cute! hmmm. i wonder if the sears by my work carries lands end stuff? i need to wait another month and then look though, LOL. Hope to lose some weight with all this running.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 01, 2012, 07:06:19 PM
My Sears doesn't carry Lands End stuff.  :(  I wanted to try stuff on first, but no luck.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 07:20:11 PM
I am eternally not buying clothes because i am "losing weight" i just realized....,
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 01, 2012, 08:10:51 PM
I am eternally not buying clothes because i am "losing weight" i just realized....,

Sometimes some awesome new clothes that fit really well are enough to make one realize that they actually dont look half bad.  ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 08:17:05 PM
Sometimes some awesome new clothes that fit really well are enough to make one realize that they actually dont look half bad.  ;)
hmmmmmmmmmm. if i only had some free time :D i once took DD to Kohls and she snuck out and ran into the store while i was half naked. It just happened so fast, she just slipped right out from under the door!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 01, 2012, 08:19:31 PM
hmmmmmmmmmm. if i only had some free time :D i once took DD to Kohls and she snuck out and ran into the store while i was half naked. It just happened so fast, she just slipped right out from under the door!!!!!!

I assume you dont beleive in leashes for children.  ;)

Leave her home with dad for a few hours.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on May 01, 2012, 08:22:33 PM
dude! agreed. no matter my weight, most my thighs look like cottage cheese  :sigh:

But how would a one-piece make a difference in your thighs?  ??? Nice runs today, btw. I'm jealous of your ability to run TWICE in one day!! (Right now, I'd settle for once/day).

Oh, and the extra protein at breakfast made a big difference with satiety this morning. We're learning about food in my 6th grade classes (ie, 4 straight hours of talking about crepes and eclairs and chocolate and cheese........) and yesterday, my stomach was growling all morning! Today, no problems. :) I bought some peanut butter and bakery whole wheat bread for tomorrow's breakfast, though. Unfortunately, my dad made homemade cornbread muffins to go with tonight's dinner. I had 2. :( Thing is, I know soon I won't be eating them at all, so I wanted to enjoy them while I could.  :-\

Anyone else watching BL finale?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 08:24:13 PM
I assume you dont beleive in leashes for children.  ;)

Leave her home with dad for a few hours.
i am out of town the next two weekends for races and then is her bday party and then maybe i can shop :D busy busy month. whew.

i just looked at lands end. quite pricey, but maybe their skirt is longer than the ones i see in the stores? that is why i like the running skirt, but it is NOT a swim suit by any means, but it is a bit longer than anything i have seen in the stores.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 01, 2012, 08:26:11 PM
But how would a one-piece make a difference in your thighs?  ??? Nice runs today, btw. I'm jealous of your ability to run TWICE in one day!! (Right now, I'd settle for once/day).

Oh, and the extra protein at breakfast made a big difference with satiety this morning. We're learning about food in my 6th grade classes (ie, 4 straight hours of talking about crepes and eclairs and chocolate and cheese........) and yesterday, my stomach was growling all morning! Today, no problems. :) I bought some peanut butter and bakery whole wheat bread for tomorrow's breakfast, though. Unfortunately, my dad made homemade cornbread muffins to go with tonight's dinner. I had 2. :( Thing is, I know soon I won't be eating them at all, so I wanted to enjoy them while I could.  :-\

Anyone else watching BL finale?
thanks! it is actually not as hard as i thought it would be.

i have been eating tofu scramble for breakfast and it does keep me filled longer than most anything else.

i will watch BL finale if it is on Hulu come 5:30am tomorrow.  :fingers: if conda wins,  :fiery:

i am trying vegan cake and frosting recipes for DD's bday party and i made a first try today and it was pretty good, but i had only about 1/3 of a piece. i was really proud of myself. My coworker brought me oatmeal choc chip raisin cookies and i gave one to a friend and one to DH and only had a bite out of the third.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 01, 2012, 10:18:36 PM
i am out of town the next two weekends for races and then is her bday party and then maybe i can shop :D busy busy month. whew.

i just looked at lands end. quite pricey, but maybe their skirt is longer than the ones i see in the stores? that is why i like the running skirt, but it is NOT a swim suit by any means, but it is a bit longer than anything i have seen in the stores.

Land's End has a swim skirt that's longer than average, I think. Some of them are short, but some look more like running skirts. They're on the pricey side, but about the same as what you'd get at Athleta or similar, and a hell of a lot cheaper than other places. Plus, they're supposed to hold up really well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2012, 05:25:16 AM
Land's End has a swim skirt that's longer than average, I think. Some of them are short, but some look more like running skirts. They're on the pricey side, but about the same as what you'd get at Athleta or similar, and a hell of a lot cheaper than other places. Plus, they're supposed to hold up really well.
that is what i want, i may just bite the bullet and order it, worse case, i return it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2012, 07:17:12 AM
i got about 70-75 mins on the TM, only one run for me today. I was PISSED, the Biggest Loser Finale was not ready on Hulu this morning :( I may actually watch it when i get to the office while doing my paperwork, or i can save it for tomorrow's run, but i am afraid of spoilers :D I would rather save it for the morning.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on May 02, 2012, 07:21:01 AM
I like this:

http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/72513?feat=507489-GN2 (http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/72513?feat=507489-GN2)
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Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2012, 07:33:25 AM
that one is cute too!
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Post by: debbatx on May 02, 2012, 09:27:52 AM
Blah, I was going to get up and do yoga this morning, but I was wrecked after last night's ass-kicking with my trainer, so I didn't make it. Back to running tomorrow morning, and I'll try again for yoga on Friday.
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Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2012, 10:07:24 AM
Blah, I was going to get up and do yoga this morning, but I was wrecked after last night's ass-kicking with my trainer, so I didn't make it. Back to running tomorrow morning, and I'll try again for yoga on Friday.
it's a date :D

now i want a nap, but gotta work, sheesh.
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Post by: Run Amok on May 02, 2012, 10:14:16 AM
Well, the scale is moving in the right direction, so I'm glad about that. My eating hasn't been perfect but I'm just trying to hang in there as much as possible and avoid things I really shouldn't eat (like candy and booze) but don't have the energy really to follow a plan right now. Yesterday I had my i-diet breakfast (fiber cereal +3tbs granola and 4 prunes). I met a friend for lunch and had a small (2x2) square of corn bread and ordered a salad. I picked the cheese and the beets out of the salad but I just wasn't hungry so I didn't eat much of it. Last night I made a salad of bell peppers and lettuce (because that was all I had!) and then sauteed peppers, onions and spinach and had it with a field roast sausage. I almost didn't eat the second part of it but once Istarted eating it, and it tasted good, I was able to keep eating.

I had my idiet breakfast again this morning. I don't have a lunch and don't really have a plan. I'm feeling like a bit of a mess.

I have to go show a horse tonight and make grain baggies. I am guessing there is an excellent chance that I will go out to dinner with some people from the barn after. We'll see how I feel.
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Post by: debbatx on May 02, 2012, 10:38:27 AM
The scale was up a bit this morning, but I expected it, given the workouts yesterday morning and last night. Lots and lots of DFW today!
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Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2012, 10:52:58 AM
i give up, what is DFW?

RA- you have a lot going on, be nice to yourself!
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Post by: caito on May 02, 2012, 11:01:56 AM
I feel less fat today.  I was really bloated yesterday, PMS, etc.    It seems to have eased a bit today.  Whew.
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Post by: debbatx on May 02, 2012, 11:02:58 AM
DFW - Delicious F'n Water.

And RA, yes, be gentle with yourself. You have a lot happening right now. One thing at a time.
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Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2012, 11:57:14 AM
oh i was definitely bloated PMS last week. ah, delicious water. Not Dallas Fort Worth.
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Post by: debbatx on May 02, 2012, 12:14:34 PM
Yeah, not Dallas/Fort Worth. :)
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on May 02, 2012, 01:51:21 PM
i got about 70-75 mins on the TM, only one run for me today. I was PISSED, the Biggest Loser Finale was not ready on Hulu this morning :( I may actually watch it when i get to the office while doing my paperwork, or i can save it for tomorrow's run, but i am afraid of spoilers :D I would rather save it for the morning.

Yeah it was quite shocking! I can't believe that one contestant who cut off a limb to lose weight! :P ;) No spoilers from me.

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Post by: debbatx on May 02, 2012, 01:55:24 PM
 :sidesplit:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 02, 2012, 02:07:26 PM
So I was down a pound and a half this morning compared to yesterday. Dont quite get it but I will take it.

Yesterdays eating was good:
Cereal and blueberries for breakfast
leftover BBQ veggies and shrimp for lunch with an orange, some carrots, and sugar free jello (note the carrots were not in the jello)
cheese and apple as snack
Banana as 2nd snack
Vegan potato leek soup for dinner
WW ice cream bar for desert
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Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2012, 02:15:54 PM
Yeah it was quite shocking! I can't believe that one contestant who cut off a limb to lose weight! :P ;) No spoilers from me.
my first patient said, you are going to hate it when you watch it, which means that either Conda or Jeremy won and i will be pissed, but shhhhhhh, i will watch it tomorrow morning and report back :)
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 02, 2012, 02:17:51 PM
my first patient said, you are going to hate it when you watch it, which means that either Conda or Jeremy won and i will be pissed, but shhhhhhh, i will watch it tomorrow morning and report back :)

I will say that I was shocked at how thin some of the folks got and shocked at how chunky some of the ones who weigh less than me still look.
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Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2012, 02:26:44 PM
I will say that I was shocked at how thin some of the folks got and shocked at how chunky some of the ones who weigh less than me still look.
i always get upset when they weigh less than me :D But i also feel good when i look at them and they weigh much more than me (like 20 lbs) and look awesome, and i think, maybe i am overly critical of myself............
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Post by: caito on May 02, 2012, 02:42:42 PM

 some carrots, and sugar free jello (note the carrots were not in the jello)


Oooohhhh what was the name of that blog we were ripping apart a while ago where the girl sprinkled powdered jello on her veggies?   :D
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Post by: Courtney on May 02, 2012, 02:51:12 PM
Meals & Miles or something, right?

Veggies do not belong in jello.  In fact, nothing belongs in jello.  Gross.
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Post by: nadra24 on May 02, 2012, 03:01:14 PM
Meals and Miles puts a lot of weird stuff on her veggies, but powdered Jello is not one of those things.

Mandarin oranges are delicious in peach jello!  Maybe I should make some of that, I bet it would feel good on my throat.

It's gorgeous weather outside today.  I wonder if going for a walk would be violating my "no exercise or strenuous activity" rule from the doctor?
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 02, 2012, 03:03:30 PM
MM - yay for the weight loss!  You did eat very well yesterday.  Nice job.

I have eaten so many f*ing strawberries I could puke.  Yet I still can't stop eating them!! 

I got a 2 mile run in after some difficulty with the kids & treadmill hassles.  I've been in a mood today and lacking energy - not sure what is up but even the goldfish is pissing me off.

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Post by: onawhim on May 02, 2012, 03:04:14 PM
Luckily I am here for you guys  :D 

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llgvi10Ao01qgeygd.jpg)
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Post by: caito on May 02, 2012, 03:11:12 PM
Luckily I am here for you guys  :D 

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llgvi10Ao01qgeygd.jpg)

Our hero!

 :)
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Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2012, 03:32:25 PM
 :eats: NOT!

I think I pretty much survived the Panera box. I had a bite of a choc chip cookie and DD ate her cookie and the bread is for DH's sandwiches and there was a brownie for the neighbor, so hopefully she comes home soon! LOL
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Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2012, 06:48:13 PM
i want this http://www.amazon.com/World-Cuisine-A4982799-Tri-Blade-Vegetable/dp/B0007Y9WHQ (http://www.amazon.com/World-Cuisine-A4982799-Tri-Blade-Vegetable/dp/B0007Y9WHQ) to make vegetable "pasta" LOL!!!! i will covet for now. saw it on pinterest  :preen:
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Post by: diablita on May 02, 2012, 11:00:56 PM
I did not eat extra snacks tonight (I'm allowing myself one, tonight it was a little Skinny Cow chocolate bar).  that is all. 
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Post by: debbatx on May 03, 2012, 06:42:58 AM
*yawn*

I'm up. I shuffled. Thanks, Meri!

Now, if I could just do something about the damn mold. It's back. Again. The part of my sinuses that's directly behind my nose and at the top of my throat feels like there's a giant glob squished in there.  :mad2:
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Post by: merigayle on May 03, 2012, 08:18:16 AM
good job Debba! I am not planning on waking up at 5am tomorrow, so you may be on your own  :D since i have my marathon Sunday, i think i deserve a morning to sleep in :) i got about 70 minutes on the TM, was feeling awesome and was hoping for 80, but DD woke up, but i have round two later this morning :)
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Post by: debbatx on May 03, 2012, 09:19:45 AM
LOL, don't worry about it - we had new sod planted in the backyard yesterday, so DH has to get up to water it in the mornings now. :) And yes, you absolutely deserve a day off!

Does acupuncture help with allergies? I meant to ask earlier.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on May 03, 2012, 09:32:57 AM
Deb, I am suffering too. It sucks that my zrytec, flonase and singulair hardly touch my mold allergies when they flare.  I am currently taking a sudafed in the am on top of everything else...it seems to help. (I take the fake sudafed..phenylfedrine 10mg, not the real sudafed.)

I have step class tonight. My plan is to eat only what I bring to work.

My stomach is really noisy this morning!! It sounds like this.... :sportscaster: :sportscaster:
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Post by: debbatx on May 03, 2012, 09:45:43 AM
Yeah, I'm on zyrtec and nasonex for the allergies, but it doesn't seem to help the mold at all.  :sigh: As of yesterday, the mold count was about 1100.  :nono:
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Post by: Courtney on May 03, 2012, 09:51:50 AM
Yeah, I'm on zyrtec and nasonex for the allergies, but it doesn't seem to help the mold at all.  :sigh: As of yesterday, the mold count was about 1100.  :nono:

I'll second the sudafed thing!  Yesterday morning I was a mess, and  popped my sudafed and it finally settled down. 
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Post by: debbatx on May 03, 2012, 09:53:15 AM
But I don't feel horribly congested - that's the thing. It's "just" a sore throat, really.
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Post by: merigayle on May 03, 2012, 10:49:36 AM
Yes a cupuncture can help with allergies but it may take a while to see big results. Sinuses generally respon really well and really fast.
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Post by: debbatx on May 03, 2012, 11:43:04 AM
Thanks meri - good to know. :)
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Post by: merigayle on May 03, 2012, 12:21:35 PM
my girlfriend suffers with horrible allergies and had some really bad reaction to her zyrtec of all things and i convinced her to come in weekly and she has been coming in weekly for several months, off all meds and almost zero allergy issues except when we went to the zoo Monday. Pretty awesome :)
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Post by: merigayle on May 03, 2012, 01:07:40 PM
grrr. i am annoyed. i had to cut my run short about 20 minutes. I had to drop something at the neighbors and they would not let me leave and it was 20 minutes, then the water delivery guy came and DH told me there was no delivery today when i asked if i needed to get the bottles ready, then i got a business phone call i had to take, then my coworker calls me with a hundred questions and so on and so on. argh. well, i had two good workouts today, just cut short a little, so overall i cannot complain, but jeez, throw me a bone!
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Post by: debbatx on May 03, 2012, 01:21:39 PM
That sucks! And thanks for the info - a friend of mine has an acupuncturist that she uses. I'm going to shoot her an email.
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 03, 2012, 01:27:52 PM
Debba good for you for shuffling!  I'm just so not a morning person.
Meri that sucks when you can't get a full workout done. 
Mouse enjoy your class!
Diablita cutting back on extra snacks makes a huge difference for me.  Even though it is hard!

We took the kids to a gymnastics place this morning - they have free run of the place with about 10 other toddlers.  So it wore us out a bit too.  My eating the last day or two has been terrible.  Strawberry cheesecake, brownies w/ice cream & choc syrup, fast food burgers & fries...blah.  I can't control the portions :(

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Post by: Bolloxd on May 03, 2012, 09:31:04 PM
At least I managed to have a healthy dinner tonight.  Pasta w/ fresh basil and a salad.  I did my push-ups too.  I'm still slacking on that part.

We got the kids into the pool.  They were surprisingly tolerant of it even with the cool water.  Once it warms up a bit more I'm hoping to do some type of exercises.
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Post by: debbatx on May 04, 2012, 10:45:17 AM
Good job, Bolloxd! I slept like crap last night - the allergy congestion hit around 11.15, so no shuffle for me this morning. Of course, Reid woke up at 5.45... I'd have been better off shuffling, I think!

Food has been okay this week, but we're going to have pizza tonight, so we'll see how the scale looks tomorrow.
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Post by: merigayle on May 04, 2012, 11:34:40 AM
i actually feel "off" today, maybe sinuses? i dunno. not sure if i am going to run after work today. I may just take a rest day. mmmmmm pizza........
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Post by: debbatx on May 04, 2012, 11:44:16 AM
Enjoy the rest day, Meri. I'm going to call an acupuncturist at lunch and see if I can get an appointment. I'm tired of feeling like crap a few weeks a month, with no warning.
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Post by: merigayle on May 04, 2012, 12:16:07 PM
Enjoy the rest day, Meri. I'm going to call an acupuncturist at lunch and see if I can get an appointment. I'm tired of feeling like crap a few weeks a month, with no warning.
good luck! any questions, shoot me a message :)
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Post by: debbatx on May 04, 2012, 01:35:35 PM
Thanks!
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Post by: merigayle on May 04, 2012, 02:40:52 PM
saw this on FB, had to share

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu1m6s7ZEF1qbgi9fo1_1280.jpg)
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Post by: debbatx on May 04, 2012, 03:35:17 PM
That's awesome! And so, so true. I'm really mean to myself.

Just talked to the acupuncturist - I have an appointment on Tuesday at 3.  :fingers:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 04, 2012, 05:32:25 PM
I just went out to lunch with all of my coworkers. They all had burgers and fries...I was good and had a salad.  >:(
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Post by: debbatx on May 04, 2012, 05:34:39 PM
Good job, MM. I know how frustrating that can be.
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Post by: triciaflower on May 04, 2012, 06:27:05 PM
I just went out to lunch with all of my coworkers. They all had burgers and fries...I was good and had a salad.  >:(

That would be so hard for me. I would totally cave and have a burger and fries. I suck at making good choices when eating out at restaurants. I can cook healthy foods and choose to buy all the fresh and healthy stuff at the grocery store. But when I have a menu in front of me, I gravitate to the bad stuff.

How do you guys make the right choices? What inner dialogue do you have going on in your heads that makes it easy to pass up the bad and opt for the good stuff?
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 04, 2012, 09:06:51 PM
Most days I am able to manage having twins and we end up having a lovely day.  Other days they gang up, or one has an off day, and I feel utterly defeated.  It was so awesome meeting up with people today but the kids totally defeated me today.  I beat myself up over it and feel horrible.  Ugh. 

The chicken papakas (sp? it may have been called something else) was really tasty though, like super yummy.

Tricia when I'm out to eat I generally go for the bad stuff too and try to make up for it by eating better later.  Or I'll just eat half of it and share the rest with DH.  For some reason I have a hard time finding something that looks appetizing and is also healthy at the same time.  It could just be me though.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 04, 2012, 10:30:49 PM
That would be so hard for me. I would totally cave and have a burger and fries. I suck at making good choices when eating out at restaurants. I can cook healthy foods and choose to buy all the fresh and healthy stuff at the grocery store. But when I have a menu in front of me, I gravitate to the bad stuff.

How do you guys make the right choices? What inner dialogue do you have going on in your heads that makes it easy to pass up the bad and opt for the good stuff?

I just think about my goal. I still give in sometimes but I would rather give in when I am out with antag than at a work lunch.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 04, 2012, 10:32:03 PM
Plus three months from today I am paying a lot of money for photos of me in a fancy dress. That is motivation!
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Post by: merigayle on May 05, 2012, 06:43:41 AM
that is big motivation! LOL

I have one toddler and there are days i feel helpless against her. She has actually been really good lately, but last night after a great day, she was a little monster, i think she is getting overtired from a lot of outdoor activity. I am not sure how well she naps at school.
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Post by: Ice Cream on May 05, 2012, 07:02:13 AM
Plus three months from today I am paying a lot of money for photos of me in a fancy dress. That is motivation!

Will you share them?
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Post by: debbatx on May 05, 2012, 09:51:19 AM
I gave up junk food for Lent - that really helped and gave me an excuse when people asked why I wasn't eating burgers or dessert or whatever. Unfortunately, now that Lent is over, I have to make the "good choice" decision myself, and that isn't easy. Apparently 40 days isn't quite long enough for me to get in the habit of ignoring the part of the menu I prefer.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 05, 2012, 11:18:20 AM
Will you share them?

Probably. Technically the photographer has to give me permission but since she is a cher I am sure it will be fine.
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Post by: Ice Cream on May 05, 2012, 11:59:08 AM
Probably. Technically the photographer has to give me permission but since she is a cher I am sure it will be fine.
interesting.  I had not even thought of copyright.
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Post by: nadra24 on May 05, 2012, 07:41:07 PM
Plus three months from today I am paying a lot of money for photos of me in a fancy dress. That is motivation!

You'd think this would be motivating to me, but it is not!  Of course, I knew I was getting my tonsils out and that I'd lose weight over the course of recovery, and I suspect that was why I was unmotivated.  I am interested to see how motivated I am come mid-May/June at eating healthy and exercising.
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Post by: triciaflower on May 05, 2012, 07:46:41 PM
For some reason I have a hard time finding something that looks appetizing and is also healthy at the same time.  It could just be me though.

I think that's my problem too. Also, I realized when I cook, I generally will cook healthier, so when I see a "healthy" option I usually think, "I can make this better than they can." I also don't fry things, so crispy fried chicken tenders always sound soooo good, since my homemade ones are rarely crispy like that.
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Post by: diablita on May 05, 2012, 10:08:06 PM
Bolloxd, were they pakoras?
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 05, 2012, 10:09:41 PM
Yes, that's it!  Oh so very tasty. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 06, 2012, 01:09:13 PM
Gah...I had a friggin hard run this morning. It was early, I didnt want to be up, I was sluggish, and my allergies were acting up bad. I think mowing the lawn yesterday and being outside while antag blew off the front yard was a bad idea. WW was awesome though. I was down 2.4 pounds! Yay!!!!
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 06, 2012, 04:03:51 PM
Yay MM!

I ran a local 5K this morning - I got 2nd in my age group and beat my previous 5K time by 2:08 with 27:30.  It was overcast and perfect temps.  I probably should have had more water in me but it was a good solid run.  I had a good breakfast but the eating has gone downhill since - pizza &  a donut.  I couldn't get them in my belly fast enough so it was enjoyed. 

Leftover pasta for dinner.
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Post by: merigayle on May 06, 2012, 05:05:38 PM
wtg both of you!!! Caito- how was your marathon???
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Post by: debbatx on May 06, 2012, 05:24:44 PM
Great job, MM and Bolloxd!

I have laryngitis, again. It's really hard to wrangle a toddler when you can't talk.  :eyeroll: Other than that, food hasn't been too bad today. No exercise - we slept in after seeing Tom Petty last night and it was raining this morning, so... eh. Back on the workout wagon tomorrow.

Meri, didn't you have a marathon today? How did it go?
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Post by: caito on May 06, 2012, 06:20:41 PM
Hi!

My marathon was great.  A little slower than I hoped, but I felt strong, finished strong, and already feel inspired to do this again.  I know I was complaining about feeling fat last week.  I know I'm not.  I didn't feel fat before/during/after the race.   That's a big thing for me, mentally & emotionally.   And I did a GREAT job filling up my glycogen stores for the race.  :D

How was your race, Meri?
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Post by: merigayle on May 06, 2012, 06:38:12 PM
glad you had a good race. My race was great and i want you all to be proud of me. i am very self conscious as you know and always wear baggy running clothes (at least shirts) and my pacer shirt was a woman's shirt (i always ask for mens) and it was SMALL, not a small per se, but very fitting on me. I wore it. They told me i did not have to, when i pulled it out of my pacer bag, but i did and i survived. i did not obsess too much over it though i know i won't like the pictures. I did not have a big pacing group like last year, but started with a woman, then spent about 20 miles with 2 guys running together who met in a substance abuse recovery program, the younger one was running his first the other his third marathon, then around mile 19 a woman started running with us and totally recognized me from COLLEGE! she was my crazy roommate's best friend/sorority sister, how weird?????
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 06, 2012, 08:18:20 PM
So antag and I got into a huge argument and were both upset. So how do we react after we calmed down? By going out to eat and then getting ice cream.  :eyeroll:

All in all I think I came out on top on this one because when he got pissed off he smashed his own sunglassses. You would have thouht he would have at least smashed mine.  :d
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 06, 2012, 10:25:02 PM
Caito & Meri - so glad you both had great races! 
Debba - ugh, I hope you get your voice back soon.
MM - too bad about the fight, but glad your sunglasses survived. 

I've taken some allergy meds earlier but my head is still pounding.  It has been annoying for a few days but today my head feels like it might explode.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 07, 2012, 06:40:33 AM
Hi everyone.. Haven't been posting much in this thread because I have not been really focusing on my food too much lately, which actually is turning out to be a good thing because since I'm not focusing, I'm maintaining pretty well.  However, I do want to lose 10 more lbs.. so time to start paying a little more attention I think!

I had a race yesterday as well.  A 10 miler with 40,000 people!  It was crazy, but I had a great run, finishing in 1:27:40, which is I think an 8:24 per mile pace?  Last year I ran 1:36 something so a 9 minute improvement!  I've been training well, but I attribute a big part of it to the 12 lbs or so I have lost and kept off since the first of the year.  Running is easier and obviously if you are propelling yourself at a less weight.. you go faster.
Glad I have been doing more strength training as well as muscle processes oxygen much more efficiently than fat.  My shoulders are a little sore as well today so I think I was working hard.
Not that it has anything to do with this thread, but my daughter pr'd at this distance yesterday at 1:20 something.. so it was a good day overall, spent with family and good running friends!
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Post by: diablita on May 07, 2012, 07:01:45 AM
nice work for the MOS family!

It was not a healthy eating weekend for me, b/w our date night on Sat (we went mtb'ing before Mexican but definitely took in more calories than were burnt) and my DD's birthday yesterday.  Now I'll buckle down.

This morning I have to go to the VA to get fingerprinted for a project I'm doing with them -- before I can connect into their network I have to jump through crazy security hoops.  Will definitely run on my lunch break when I return.
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Post by: merigayle on May 07, 2012, 07:59:13 AM
great improvement MoS!
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Post by: debbatx on May 07, 2012, 10:26:40 AM
I am really effing tired of starting to work out, getting sick, spending a week and a half recovering, starting to work out, getting sick.... I just can't make any progress.

*sigh*

I guess I just don't want it enough?  Fingers seriously crossed that the acupuncture helps.
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 07, 2012, 11:53:29 AM
Nice running MOS!  That is a great improvement.  On the same course I ran 5 years ago I got a 33:52 and yesterday was 27:30, so a similar increase for me too.  It is a great feeling that training has paid off.

Debba - it does seem to be a pattern of you getting sick once you get started into a good workout pattern.  That really sucks.  Have you mentioned it to a Dr ?  They may have some insight as to what is going on rather than it being crap luck.  I have found that, for me, if I'm feeling crap I have to really push myself to workout and it generally does make me feel better....even though I'd rather believe it is easier/better/nicer for me to take it easy.

  I'm feeling a little sore today so will just do some stretching, maybe a walk, if I get the chance.  The kids are testing boundaries today....and pretty much every day.  I guess this is the 2 yr old games.
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Post by: debbatx on May 07, 2012, 12:17:11 PM
It's allergies - and since I run outside, and we've had several horrible allergy years in a row, working out triggers an allergy attack.  :-\ While it was "just" pollen, I was able to control it with Claritin and a couple of shots off my inhaler right before a run. Mid-December through early April were fine, I was just lazy. :)

The last few months, though, we've had super-high mold counts on top of high pollen counts, and apparently nothing can save me when that happens. I'm going for acupuncture tomorrow and have my fingers crossed that it helps. If not...  :sigh:

And the boundary-testing is huge in our house right now. I don't know how you manage it with two toddlers.
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Post by: Coyzmum on May 07, 2012, 03:08:18 PM
My weekend was OK.  The gym scale was even down a little and it seems way harder to move it than the one at home.  I'm sure it is all in my head.  I did do my lunchtime workout on the treadmill.  Breakfast and lunch were Ok.  I'm eating a lot less, but am not sure I'm eating a lot better which I also want to do. 

Diablita, my dd turned 4 May 1 and we had her family party yesterday.  Cake and homemade ice cream which of course I had.  All in all I'm happy with my results so far. 

I do admire the running done in here.  I'm in the 30 minutes at lunch camp and cannot imagine running for several hours or even 10 miles at this point.  Something to aspire to maybe...
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 07, 2012, 08:24:35 PM
Cozymum glad to see the scales are moving down for you.  I have issues with trying to eat healthy food so I know how tough it is....I can *usually* limit the amount of junk food I eat, but it is still junk food.

That said, homemade ice cream and cake!?  *drool*  Happy Birthday to your DD too!

There is certainly a lot of inspiring people in this thread, and throughout the entire website, that I'm grateful for.


The kids have been hellions all day!  Both have been demanding to be held, or is throwing EVERY thing, or they are both fighting over the same toy, or chasing each other around the house.  Then to make up for it David just walked over to Rachel and gave her a kiss.... makes me melt.
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Post by: diablita on May 07, 2012, 10:49:17 PM

Diablita, my dd turned 4 May 1 and we had her family party yesterday.  Cake and homemade ice cream which of course I had.  All in all I'm happy with my results so far. 

Happy Birthday to your DD!  It's such a fun age, isn't it?  (Bolloxd, the two's started off tough for us but quickly became great and keep getting better.)

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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 08, 2012, 06:05:00 AM
My weight is so weird.. On Sunday morning I stepped on the scale and was up two pounds.. Now granted I had been drinking a ton of water on Sat to hydrate for my race and also had pasta and bread Sat night so I was not to worried about it.. ran the race.. ate.. and kind of ate normally yesterday and today I stepped on the scale and was down 4 lbs from Sunday...so down two pounds from my Sat weight..

In general my weight can fluctuate 2-3 lbs a day.. I think I retain a lot of fluid.. I have high blood pressure and maybe this has to do with the fact that I shouldn't eat salt?

I have not really been logging my food. I feel like I should if I want to lose, but sometimes I also feel like the focus of the food and where I'm at in the day has the reverse effect and makes me want to eat more.. And the logging is not a biggie for breakfast and lunch because I pretty much eat the same thing every day... I do feel like I am being a lot more Mindful of what I eat though, even with out the logging.
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Post by: Ice Cream on May 08, 2012, 06:49:36 AM


I had a race yesterday as well.  A 10 miler with 40,000 people!  It was crazy, but I had a great run, finishing in 1:27:40, which is I think an 8:24 per mile pace? 

8:46.  I run about the same overall time for the 10 miler.
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Post by: debbatx on May 08, 2012, 09:44:05 AM
Bolloxd, we're just about halfway through the 2s... in a lot of ways, things have gotten better - he's more articulate and better able to tell us if something's wrong, etc. In some ways, it's gotten worse - he's pickier about stuff and more likely to lose his shit if we don't read his mind. :) This morning, he wilted to the floor, crying bitter, bitter tears because his smoothie was on the kitchen counter and not the table.  :eyeroll:

Don't take it personally - toddlers are batshit crazy. At least, that's what I've concluded.

The scale was better than expected this morning. No exercise again this morning, but I have a training appointment tonight. I'm also going for my first acupuncture appointment this afternoon and am REALLY hoping for some relief.  :fingers: :fingers: :fingers:
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Post by: caito on May 08, 2012, 10:28:24 AM
Okay, after a fun weekend of carb and glycogen loading, I am ready to ease up on my larger than usual portions of delicious carby things.  After the marathon I had an amazing cheeseburger and beers for lunch, and then later on pretzels and gummy bears and then sushi for dinner.  Yesterday I was very hungry so I just kept eating.  Cereal, english muffin, salad, sandwich, more pretzels and gummy bears, dried fruit, finally some veggies for dinner, ice cream, booze.  No portion control, no calorie counting and okay, I've gotten that out of my system.  Back to wholesome, minimally processed foods and reasonable portions starting today!
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 08, 2012, 10:57:05 AM
Debba I hope you get some relief from allergies soon. 

The kids woke us up this morning by fighting each other in their cribs!  Sheesh.  Luckily my tasks today include getting out of the house to vote, and get the car inspection done.  As I left they stood at the door crying and David grabbed Rachel's hair and threw her to the floor.   :nono:

Caito,  so glad you enjoyed your carb loading!  I'd probably need a month to recover from a marathon.
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Post by: merigayle on May 08, 2012, 11:36:02 AM
i am not feeling it for my run today. i am not sure i will run. i will either run or start sewing DD's birthday dress. I finished it last week and it was too small, it was unfixable, so i am starting from scratch. Actually, it was too big, then i altered it too small because she threw a fit and would not let me measure her and i "eye balled it"  :eyeroll:
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Post by: merigayle on May 08, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
i got on the TM and walked fast. I did not die.
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Post by: Courtney on May 08, 2012, 01:38:27 PM
I got up and ran/shuffled this morning before work.  First run in a long time.  Week 1 Day 1 of C25K.  During the walk sections, and warm up and cool down, I ran slowly.  Like, an odd shuffle.  But then I sped up a lot during the run sections.  It felt good.

I ate way too much all weekend.  16 hours in the car (in total) and fro-yo, brats, these amazing "crack potatoes", meatloaf, etc.  Lots of food. 

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Post by: debbatx on May 08, 2012, 01:39:32 PM
Good for you, Courtney! I'm hopeful about getting up tomorrow after the allergy week from hell. It might be raining, though. I need a plan B for those mornings.
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Post by: Courtney on May 08, 2012, 01:56:26 PM
Good for you, Courtney! I'm hopeful about getting up tomorrow after the allergy week from hell. It might be raining, though. I need a plan B for those mornings.

I put the word out on FB the night before, and three people texted me to make sure I got up this morning :D  Otherwise, I probably would not have gotten up. 

I need to do some meal planning, y'all.  I see this as a major piece of success for me.  Otherwise, I get home at night and don't have anything handy to cook, so I put it off, then we end up ordering a pizza, or running out to grab something (which is often subway, but still, there is a lot to be said for home cooked meals, which can then produce leftovers for lunch later). 

Who's good at that?  I'm the WORST. 
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Post by: debbatx on May 08, 2012, 02:00:17 PM
Um, I'm okay at it, but I just go through my Cooking Lights and find recipes that sound good.
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Post by: Courtney on May 08, 2012, 02:05:22 PM
I get all excited during the planning stage, and then I don't want to go to the grocery store, so I don't, and then we eat random shit from the cupboards or go out to eat.  It's a bad cycle.   :nono:
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Post by: debbatx on May 08, 2012, 02:10:49 PM
Oh, I do the planning right before we go to the store. :)
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Post by: Courtney on May 08, 2012, 02:21:40 PM
I kind of hate grocery shopping.  It's full of binge temptations for me, and I don't fare well very often.  That's probably part of the issue. 
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Post by: debbatx on May 08, 2012, 02:26:45 PM
Ahhhh, that makes sense. We usually all go together on the weekend, so I do the meal plan for the week and then the list right before that.
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Post by: nadra24 on May 08, 2012, 02:31:17 PM
I kind of hate grocery shopping.  It's full of binge temptations for me, and I don't fare well very often.  That's probably part of the issue. 

See, this is where I think grocery delivery would be worth it!  A grocery store near me used to charge a delivery fee (I think $5-10) and would deliver groceries to your house.  You can order exactly what you want and not be tempted by all the yummies at the store.  For me, the delivery service would easily pay for itself if it was that low, because I would avoid impulse buying.

The downside is that you have to be home for a window of time, and if you forget to put something on your list your out of luck.  But the good might outweigh the bad for sure! 
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Post by: Courtney on May 08, 2012, 02:39:03 PM
See, this is where I think grocery delivery would be worth it!  A grocery store near me used to charge a delivery fee (I think $5-10) and would deliver groceries to your house.  You can order exactly what you want and not be tempted by all the yummies at the store.  For me, the delivery service would easily pay for itself if it was that low, because I would avoid impulse buying.

The downside is that you have to be home for a window of time, and if you forget to put something on your list your out of luck.  But the good might outweigh the bad for sure! 

HUH. That would absolutely be worth it for me.  I'm positive I spend $5-10 on impulse, junk food shit when I go shopping! 

I'll have to google it for the stores around us.   I'm a little leery about not picking out my own produce, but that's about the only other downfall... 
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Post by: nadra24 on May 08, 2012, 02:41:56 PM
Oh yeah, that too.
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Post by: Courtney on May 08, 2012, 03:06:00 PM
So I just checked and neither store delivers to where I live.  :(  Boo. 
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Post by: Lanarkshire with an L on May 08, 2012, 07:49:51 PM
Don't take it personally - toddlers are batshit crazy. At least, that's what I've concluded.

Seriously! My niece- who I really love to pieces- has been in the batshit crazy phase for over a year now.  :nono:

She basically did this:

I finished it last week and it was too small, it was unfixable, so i am starting from scratch. Actually, it was too big, then i altered it too small because she threw a fit and would not let me measure her and i "eye balled it"  :eyeroll:

Her mom (my SIL) made new nightgowns for her doll, Virginia and my niece in matching fabric (so cute!) She made the one for my niece too big- really, it was just long- and she flipped out- screaming, crying, running around, did I mention screaming?! Then her mom went and tried to make it a bit smaller. She brought it in and my niece says "Oh! It looks much better!" She tried it on and I guess it was still too long, so she flipped out all over again. My brother (her dad) slammed the door to the sun room porch off the kitchen where she had gone and was flipping out. I was like- wtf?! This went on for like an hour.

Well, this weekend was ok food wise (except for ice cream on Sunday), but I had beer every day. (Only one or two) I'm at the same weight as last week, which really is ok with me. I went for a run and did my DVD yesterday. Today, I did 3 miles after work. My knee was hurting a little at the end today. But, I bought a foam roller last night. I was able to do about 3 minutes with it after the run. That thing is so awkward!! I hope it works magic like the ART did. It certainly felt like the pain he inflicted. I was able to run 2 days in a row, though. :) Might try for 3 by going again tomorrow! We'll see how the sleeping goes.
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Post by: debbatx on May 08, 2012, 08:01:50 PM
Lanarkshire, yeah, that's about right. Reid melted down on me this morning because I put a placemat down on the spot on the table where he wanted his smoothie cup. He wanted the cup on.the.table. Not on a placemat on the table. On the TABLE.  :eyeroll:
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Post by: nadra24 on May 08, 2012, 08:09:21 PM
Yeah, foam rollers are super awkward, but they are magic.  Magic, I tell you!

I go back to work tomorrow.  My sleep schedule is incredibly screwed up, I couldn't sleep on Sunday night at all and I tossed and turned all night last night. I'm not supposed to do any exercise for two weeks, but I'm considering going to the gym in a bit and going on the elliptical or stationary bike.  I need to tire myself out so that I fall asleep at a reasonable hour tonight!

Foodwise I have been living on Easy Mac and popsicles for two weeks.  I am trying to figure out a good way to get more (soft) veggies into myself, I'm probably going to have to rely on green smoothies and eggs scrambled eggs with peppers and onions for a little while, and work my way back to salads and stuff.  I've got a pot of lentil soup (heavy on the veggies) on the stove now.  My appetite is fairly nonexistant, and I think I'm just going to go with that for a while.  It will return eventually, so I'm not too worried about that.
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Post by: merigayle on May 08, 2012, 08:29:11 PM
toddlers are bat shit crazy. the shit DD throws fits over is incredible. she gets hysterical if you have to pee because at that moment, she decides she has to and will fight you tooth and nail to pee first, even if you open the toilet and put her stinking potty seat on there for her and tell her it is her turn to go first  :eyeroll: :eyeroll:
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Post by: merigayle on May 09, 2012, 08:22:36 AM
holy cow! i was magically down a couple pounds this morning  :yikes:
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on May 09, 2012, 09:09:35 AM
holy cow! i was magically down a couple pounds this morning  :yikes:
woohoo!!!!!!

I have been trying hard to get back on track. I am getting my routine back and last night I was good with portion control. (We had enchiladas).

Today is my 48th. So there will be cake at work, fortunately it is a training day so there will be a lot of people to eat it and I can stick with a small piece! I am getting up to run right now. Have a good day!
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Post by: debbatx on May 09, 2012, 09:13:19 AM
I was down a bit this morning, too! WTF? I'm tired, but the acupuncture definitely helped yesterday - so I'm hoping that I'll be able to get up tomorrow and run.  :fingers:
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Post by: triciaflower on May 09, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
I'm good at meal planning!!!

That's the only way I can make sure to eat wholesome things and use up everything I buy. That said, I did not plan this week but we are still doing ok with what we have. I have gotten pretty ok at making something that resembles a healthy meal out of whatever is in my fridge.

My keys to success: Make a list of meals and snacks based partially on what is already in your kitchen. Make a list of groceries. STICK TO THE LIST!!

More info later..
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 09, 2012, 10:31:16 AM
holy cow! i was magically down a couple pounds this morning  :yikes:

Nice!  I was down too.. It's hard to tell because the scale at the gym is about 5 lbs higher than my scale at home.. but I was very very happy with the scale at the gym :)

Also, someone in my training class mentioned I looked like I lost more weight.

My trainer got pay back today on me because I beat her in the 10 mile race by 14 seconds!  She's only 24
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Post by: Coyzmum on May 09, 2012, 10:39:36 AM
Happy 48th Mouse!

Good job beating the trainer MoS.

I did yoga at lunch yesterday and ate pretty well.  Treadmill at lunch today.  I carpool to work with DH and he stopped for a biscuit this morning.  I refrained, but I was jealous. 

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Post by: merigayle on May 09, 2012, 11:16:08 AM
enjoy your day and your cake, Mouse :)

MoS- that is awesome :)

And to prove hell may actually be freezing over, i bought a bathing suit this morning at Kohls and thought it looked good.  :panic:
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Post by: Courtney on May 09, 2012, 01:22:35 PM
I need to be done with the thread in Yammering. 
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Post by: merigayle on May 09, 2012, 01:24:13 PM
yep. and now all i want to do is eat some ice cream! LOL.
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Post by: Run Amok on May 09, 2012, 01:45:59 PM
holy cow! i was magically down a couple pounds this morning  :yikes:

I don't know if I consider working your arse off as "magically" but, glad to hear it!!
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 09, 2012, 01:48:34 PM
I need to be done with the thread in Yammering. 

It is really getting to me too.

Shit like that really makes me feel like crap. I mean I guess I know people judge me but to have the fact that people that I like and I respect are probably judging me based on the fact that I am not as skinny as them makes me want to cry. Because if they judge people they care about you know they are judging the rest of us.

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Post by: debbatx on May 09, 2012, 01:51:10 PM
Me, too. I wasn't kidding when I said it was making me want to eat. To top it off, I just realized I have no hummus in the fridge here, so nothing in which to dip my veggies. :( I haven't yet decided what to do.
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Post by: merigayle on May 09, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
 :hug:
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Post by: debbatx on May 09, 2012, 02:30:38 PM
I ate my afternoon snack with my lunch. Not the worst decision ever, but now I have to figure out what to do for a snack!  :sigh:

The good news is, I don't have time to go out and buy a really good binge, so that's at least off the table.
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Post by: merigayle on May 09, 2012, 02:41:24 PM
i have to pick up DD in 20 minutes and face the dreaded Panera boxes, LOL!!! I have been pretty good lately, but i got no run in. I went shopping before work (the bathing suit!) and got held up at work by one of my chatting coworkers and i was planning on running after work. oh well. I have a 24 hour race this weekend, so i am sure i will make up for it :D I am looking forward to post race recovery to really get back into the serious training.

I have been really good about not snacking outside of my predetermined snacks. Apple, grapes, yogurt, etc.

Oh and that coconut milk yogurt i loved? it is on sale for the month and i have been stocking up.
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Post by: onawhim on May 09, 2012, 02:43:31 PM
oooh coconut milk yogurt.  I keep thinking about trying to make my own coconut kefir but have not gotten around to it. 
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Post by: Run Amok on May 09, 2012, 02:45:36 PM
Oh, yeah, that coconut milk yogurt is tasty. Virtually no nutritional value (no protein, as I recall) but tasty!
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Post by: merigayle on May 09, 2012, 02:46:22 PM
yeah, it is the greek yogurt style one, but low in protein :( high in fiber, i guess that is something.....
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Post by: Run Amok on May 09, 2012, 02:47:51 PM
Oh! I haven't tried that one. I was a little surprised when I looked at the nutritionals on the one I did try- it was basically a cup of sugar and fat, as far as I could tell. Tasty... but seemed like pretty empty calories. Sounds like the greek one is a littel better.
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Post by: merigayle on May 09, 2012, 02:52:30 PM
it is not much more nutritious.

Serving Size    1 Container (170g)
Amount Per Serving
Calories    130
Calories from Fat    40
% Daily Value*
Total Fat    4.5g    7%
Saturated Fat    3.5    18%
Trans Fat    0g    
Cholesterol    0mg    0%
Sodium    130mg    5%
Potassium    0mg    0%
Total Carbohydrate    25g    8%
Dietary Fiber    8g    32%
Sugar    11g    
Protein    2g    
• Vitamin A
0%
• Vitamin C
0%
• Calcium
30%
• Iron
4%
• Vitamin D
30%
• Vitamin B12
30%
• Magnesium
30%
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Post by: Courtney on May 09, 2012, 03:08:45 PM
It is really getting to me too.

Shit like that really makes me feel like crap. I mean I guess I know people judge me but to have the fact that people that I like and I respect are probably judging me based on the fact that I am not as skinny as them makes me want to cry. Because if they judge people they care about you know they are judging the rest of us.



yup. 
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Post by: debbatx on May 09, 2012, 03:12:21 PM
It is really getting to me too.

Shit like that really makes me feel like crap. I mean I guess I know people judge me but to have the fact that people that I like and I respect are probably judging me based on the fact that I am not as skinny as them makes me want to cry. Because if they judge people they care about you know they are judging the rest of us.



Yep. And that just...  :sigh:
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 09, 2012, 03:50:15 PM
I've not looked through the thread yet but wanted to give y'all hugs.   :hug:

Also, congrats on the weight loss a few of you've had!  Anyone else that has maintained or even gained, it is a lifetime process not a week long one.  Another  :hug:


I had a fairly good breakfast this morning & have been drinking DFW in anticipation of a run.  Well, I got changed into my running gear, pulled my hair up, socks on, etc. and then laid on the bed and took a 2 hr nap!!  So, umm, I guess I needed it but a little frustrated that I missed out since the kids will be up any minute.

Coconut yogurt sounds great.... I got some a couple years ago and loved it.  I have no idea why I haven't bought it since. 
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Post by: Run Amok on May 09, 2012, 05:14:49 PM
Me, too. I wasn't kidding when I said it was making me want to eat. To top it off, I just realized I have no hummus in the fridge here, so nothing in which to dip my veggies. :( I haven't yet decided what to do.

If you have yogurt (particularly greek yogurt) you can make a pretty yummy dip with dried herbs. I like dill, garlic, onion plus salt and a little lemon juice (if you have it). It's great as is but you can let it sit for a bit to really let the flavors meld. Yummy! I mix in what seems like way too much in terms of the dried herbs and it comes out very flavorful.
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Post by: debbatx on May 09, 2012, 05:19:36 PM
Oh hell, I do have a little cup of regular greek yogurt - thoughts, anyone? It would save me a trip to the store tonight. How much of everything do you put in? It's one of those little cups that comes in the 4-pack.
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Post by: Run Amok on May 09, 2012, 05:22:53 PM
I'd start out with a tsp of each herb and a big fat sprinkle of salt. Taste- if it's not yummy yet, add more. If you can taste the herbs but it's just not quite right- try more salt. I'm tellin' ya- dill, garlic, onion. It's a little like a dilly-ranch. You can add a little water or 2% sour cream to thin it a bit. Or milk. Or lemon juice.
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Post by: debbatx on May 09, 2012, 05:25:10 PM
Mmmmmmm.... thanks!
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Post by: triciaflower on May 09, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
It is really getting to me too.

Shit like that really makes me feel like crap. I mean I guess I know people judge me but to have the fact that people that I like and I respect are probably judging me based on the fact that I am not as skinny as them makes me want to cry. Because if they judge people they care about you know they are judging the rest of us.



yes yes and yes.

I have no idea what thread y'all are talking about. Skipped yammering this afternoon. Might have to go check it out to see who to add to my dislike list.  :incazzato:
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Post by: triciaflower on May 09, 2012, 06:08:03 PM
In other news.. I started Halhigdon's spring training plan!!! YAY!!!!

I seriously lost my running mojo a while back. It was a vicious cycle. I'd get depressed. I didn't want to run. But running elevates my mood and makes me happier. But then I'm too sad to run. So I don't. Then I get sadder. Lather rinse repeat.

I just decided I was done feeling gross. I like my body better when I'm running, even though I don't really lose that much weight when I run. I just feel better. Mentally. Physically. So I went yesterday again and it was awesome. So I'm going again tonight. It'll be the first time I've set foot in the gym in months. DH just started going again when I ran last week. We totally motivate each other.  :heartbeat:
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Post by: Courtney on May 09, 2012, 06:24:16 PM
In other news.. I started Halhigdon's spring training plan!!! YAY!!!!

I seriously lost my running mojo a while back. It was a vicious cycle. I'd get depressed. I didn't want to run. But running elevates my mood and makes me happier. But then I'm too sad to run. So I don't. Then I get sadder. Lather rinse repeat.

I just decided I was done feeling gross. I like my body better when I'm running, even though I don't really lose that much weight when I run. I just feel better. Mentally. Physically. So I went yesterday again and it was awesome. So I'm going again tonight. It'll be the first time I've set foot in the gym in months. DH just started going again when I ran last week. We totally motivate each other.  :heartbeat:

Yay, tricia!  :)  I know what you mean about the cycle of being down, knowing running will help, and then still not feeling like doing it.  It's hard to snap out of it sometimes. 

I was listening to the Pandora 90's station today, and totally thought of you! 
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Post by: merigayle on May 09, 2012, 07:15:08 PM
Great job tricia!
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Post by: caito on May 09, 2012, 07:15:29 PM
In other news.. I started Halhigdon's spring training plan!!! YAY!!!!

I seriously lost my running mojo a while back. It was a vicious cycle. I'd get depressed. I didn't want to run. But running elevates my mood and makes me happier. But then I'm too sad to run. So I don't. Then I get sadder. Lather rinse repeat.

I just decided I was done feeling gross. I like my body better when I'm running, even though I don't really lose that much weight when I run. I just feel better. Mentally. Physically. So I went yesterday again and it was awesome. So I'm going again tonight. It'll be the first time I've set foot in the gym in months. DH just started going again when I ran last week. We totally motivate each other.  :heartbeat:

:rah:   I really like Hal Higdon.  Have fun!  :)
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Post by: debbatx on May 09, 2012, 09:07:32 PM
Good job, tricia!!! I know that cycle well. It's awesome that you're getting out of it. :)
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Post by: triciaflower on May 09, 2012, 11:04:05 PM
I was listening to the Pandora 90's station today, and totally thought of you! 

Rob Base and DJ EZ Rock? THAT station is almost perfect!
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Post by: caito on May 10, 2012, 07:38:30 AM
Rob Base and DJ EZ Rock?

 :heartbeat:

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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 10, 2012, 07:55:41 AM
I feel so good these days!  Last night at track some of the woman I was running with in my group commented about how strong I looked running.. I really think the strength training (and I am not doing a ton.. just a little TRX, core work and pushup stuff) is helping me over all.  Because I am watching my food, but not logging like I was when I was in the BL.  And today I was down a tad even more..

And I was looking in the mirror this morning at my back and my shoulders and I thought to myself "man you look good!".  I'm only about 8 lbs away from my marathon weight but I'd like to lose 12-14 more.. I definitely think that is doable.

Of course.. In my life.. living along and not being involved with anyone, I am not faced with a lot of social situations involving food or alcohol so it's a bit easier for me.
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Post by: merigayle on May 10, 2012, 08:12:50 AM
great job, MoS!!!! When I lived by myself it was MUCH easier. I have a hard time with not finishing DD's food, snacks, etc. Like the other day she ate 1/3 of a granola bar, i took a bite and tossed the rest, usually i would eat the whole thing.

Oh and the Panera box, DD wanted danish, i do not particularly care for danish, so i only ate the bite she forced me to eat. My neighbors and her enjoyed it as did DH later on. I did get bread for DH, but have not touched it. I did eat a bite of cookie when I picked her up. Not too bad though. I just made DD choc chip cookies though, so trying not to eat any, they are still in the oven.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 10, 2012, 08:38:35 AM
great job, MoS!!!! When I lived by myself it was MUCH easier. I have a hard time with not finishing DD's food, snacks, etc. Like the other day she ate 1/3 of a granola bar, i took a bite and tossed the rest, usually i would eat the whole thing.

Oh and the Panera box, DD wanted danish, i do not particularly care for danish, so i only ate the bite she forced me to eat. My neighbors and her enjoyed it as did DH later on. I did get bread for DH, but have not touched it. I did eat a bite of cookie when I picked her up. Not too bad though. I just made DD choc chip cookies though, so trying not to eat any, they are still in the oven.


When my kids were little I always finished their food.. that's why I ballooned up!  I hate waste..

I had to make brownies last night for work and now they are sitting in a pan... There are a lot of broken ones.. I need to just chuck them! 
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Post by: merigayle on May 10, 2012, 08:46:06 AM
i think i am pretty good to not eat the cookies, but brownies? i would be like, oooh let me just take a teeny slice, and then next time thru the kitchen, just another teeny little slice, until i ate like a ton of them :D the cookies look realllllly good! LOL.

As a spin off on the thread in yammering, i rarely ever binge eat, but i think about food 24/7, what will i eat next? what did i eat so far? how many calories have i eaten today? it's constant chatter in my head.
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Post by: triciaflower on May 10, 2012, 08:58:20 AM
i rarely ever binge eat, but i think about food 24/7, what will i eat next? what did i eat so far? how many calories have i eaten today? it's constant chatter in my head.

YES! Me too. I don't binge either, but I constantly think about food. It may be my slightly OCD personality. Once something gets in my head, I think about it constantly.
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Post by: triciaflower on May 10, 2012, 08:59:54 AM
I feel so good these days!  Last night at track some of the woman I was running with in my group commented about how strong I looked running..

 :bow2: You are inspiring me!
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 10, 2012, 09:10:23 AM
:bow2: You are inspiring me!
Not sure I'm "bow down to inspiring" but glad I can!  That's what this thread is for.  Others in here have inspired me to pay it forward!
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Post by: merigayle on May 10, 2012, 09:11:33 AM
YES! Me too. I don't binge either, but I constantly think about food. It may be my slightly OCD personality. Once something gets in my head, I think about it constantly.
yep, and i totally have OCD tendencies. I never thought about food actually until I started dieting with WW the first time in grad school, then it became something that really overtook my mental space. Before that, I ate whatever I wanted whenever I wanted, without though, hence why i gained weight. It was not binge eating, but just portion control. I could easily drink an entire carton of OJ in one day, bowls of cereal and pasta were HUGE, etc.

My roommate who i went to WW with was a food addict, severely. She would go to the pizza place across the street and order a pizza and a couple subs and get 4 or 5 different sodas so it seemed like it was for her and her friends, when it was just for her. So I have totally witnessed first hand some of the behaviors others have talked about in the other thread.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 10, 2012, 09:12:22 AM
i think i am pretty good to not eat the cookies, but brownies? i would be like, oooh let me just take a teeny slice, and then next time thru the kitchen, just another teeny little slice, until i ate like a ton of them :D the cookies look realllllly good! LOL.

As a spin off on the thread in yammering, i rarely ever binge eat, but i think about food 24/7, what will i eat next? what did i eat so far? how many calories have i eaten today? it's constant chatter in my head.
Actually.. I promised to save some brownies for someone  ;)  But not sure I'll be able to get them to him before they go stale!
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 10, 2012, 09:14:35 AM
yep, and i totally have OCD tendencies. I never thought about food actually until I started dieting with WW the first time in grad school, then it became something that really overtook my mental space. Before that, I ate whatever I wanted whenever I wanted, without though, hence why i gained weight. It was not binge eating, but just portion control. I could easily drink an entire carton of OJ in one day, bowls of cereal and pasta were HUGE, etc.

My roommate who i went to WW with was a food addict, severely. She would go to the pizza place across the street and order a pizza and a couple subs and get 4 or 5 different sodas so it seemed like it was for her and her friends, when it was just for her. So I have totally witnessed first hand some of the behaviors others have talked about in the other thread.

I have done something similar with Chinese food!  Well, when I asked for chopsticks I increased the # I would need.  I am pretty sure I have a problem with addiction to food.. like alcoholics have with alcohol.  That's why I can't keep certain stuff in the house.  I wonder if that's why my not logging lately is working better for me? Since it's not in my mind how much more I can eat for the day I'm not obsessing over it, yet I am still mindfully eating and being careful?
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Post by: debbatx on May 10, 2012, 10:02:34 AM
I should have gotten up this morning, but, well, I didn't. Oh well. It's supposed to rain all night tonight into tomorrow, so I don't know quite what I'm going to do yet. Maybe yoga. Maybe sleep. Tomorrow's going to be a very long day at work - it's the college's graduation ceremony tomorrow night, and I have to work at it. This sounds awful, but hopefully not too many graduates show up so it won't take too long.
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Post by: witchypoo on May 10, 2012, 10:41:42 AM
It is really getting to me too.

Shit like that really makes me feel like crap. I mean I guess I know people judge me but to have the fact that people that I like and I respect are probably judging me based on the fact that I am not as skinny as them makes me want to cry. Because if they judge people they care about you know they are judging the rest of us.

with all due respect...
i have no investment in you; therefore, were i to pass you on the street, your size/appearance/etc. probably wouldn't even register with me.  i don't make a habit of judging people based on their physical bodies.  particularly women i don't know.

i am way too busy critiquing shoes to do that.
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Post by: hally on May 10, 2012, 11:31:44 AM
Hi ladies. Long time no keep up here. I have not opened the Yammering thread...is that the packing on pounds one?
Meri, any progress since getting the Mirena out?

I see MOS is doing great! And ^5 Tricia getting your running mojo back.

I was up 3 pounds but it's slowly coming back off. 1.2 off today at WI. Freaking way harder to get off then it was to put on!! Cripes I wasn't all that far off program.
Yes Bolloxed, it's a journey and I am at least proud that I am sticking with it no matter that the weight isn't falling off the way I'd like.


In other news I am going to an ortho on Monday to get a diagnosis on my knee. Not running sucks but at least I can ride, been doing that the last two weekends. And elliptical in the mornings. I hate not being outside but walking just doesn't get my HR up and I tend to want to break into a jog and that isn't going to help my knee.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 10, 2012, 12:58:39 PM
So I went out to chinease last night even though I should know better. Now I am paying the price as there must have been soy in the sauces.
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Post by: mango on May 10, 2012, 01:23:30 PM
there must have been soy in the sauces.

Soy sauce? :D

Sorry and feel better soon.

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Post by: debbatx on May 10, 2012, 01:34:38 PM
The sodium would have had me like 5 pounds up on the scale this morning. Hope you feel better soon, MM.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 10, 2012, 01:57:18 PM
Soy sauce? :D

Sorry and feel better soon.



well maybe. They didnt indicate that they were soy based sauces and I kinda said what the hell...I want it dammit. I know I cannot eat soy though.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 10, 2012, 01:57:43 PM
The sodium would have had me like 5 pounds up on the scale this morning. Hope you feel better soon, MM.

Well I was up like 1.5...but I am sure that will go away.
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Post by: debbatx on May 10, 2012, 02:06:06 PM
I'm just sensitive to sodium. I'm always up a considerable amount the day after I eat anything with too much sodium.
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Post by: merigayle on May 10, 2012, 02:49:16 PM
The sodium would have had me like 5 pounds up on the scale this morning. Hope you feel better soon, MM.
that is me too! Chinese food = up many pounds for 1-3 days!
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 10, 2012, 02:58:39 PM
The sodium would have had me like 5 pounds up on the scale this morning. Hope you feel better soon, MM.

Oh me too.. 5 lbs easy!
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Post by: debbatx on May 10, 2012, 03:04:40 PM
That's why I'm nervous about tomorrow. Work is providing dinner for us, but it's Jason's Deli, and even though I'm getting a turkey wrap, it's almost guaranteed to be over-sodium-ed. And Saturday is my WW weigh-in day. :( And I can't pump myself full of water after I eat, either, because I have to work throughout the graduation ceremony, so no running away to pee.
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Post by: Courtney on May 10, 2012, 11:26:51 PM
YES! Me too. I don't binge either, but I constantly think about food. It may be my slightly OCD personality. Once something gets in my head, I think about it constantly.

I do this as well. 
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Post by: triciaflower on May 10, 2012, 11:49:40 PM
Too much sodium gives me a headache the next morning.  :nono:

Courtney, we are so much alike sometimes!
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Post by: merigayle on May 11, 2012, 06:32:30 AM
i did eat one cookie last night  :yikes:
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 11, 2012, 09:33:04 AM
i did eat one cookie last night  :yikes:

I think this is the key for me.. Getting to the point where I can be satisfied with 1!  Until then I need to keep them out of the house.

Where is your race this weekend?
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Post by: Courtney on May 11, 2012, 09:39:24 AM
Too much sodium gives me a headache the next morning.  :nono:

Courtney, we are so much alike sometimes!

Us = Cool mofos

:D
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 11, 2012, 09:40:03 AM
So I had this weird feeling this morning.. I have the day off and I'm just cleaning and stuff and I'm wearing little shorts and a tank top and I looked in the mirror and felt my arms and I felt so strong and like the definition is starting to show.. I have a ways to go.. And then I looked at my abs and I have NEVER had abs before.. and I still have a belly because you know almost 51 and two kids.. but even my abs feel more toned and I felt.... so... uncomfortable.. like this is not me and not what I am used to feeling.  I was always a heavy kid and never had abs even when I was a teenager..And I'm worried because I wonder if I am uncomfortable with myself like this because it takes away the excuse of why people won't want to get close to me".. and I really want to break the cycle of that and lose another 1o lbs or so... but them I will look really buff and I just feel like I am so uncomfortable with my body when it looks like that.. Like I don't have the experience of maybe looking even a little sexy ... because when I get like that I think I do look sexy.. I have a nice ass.. good boobs (especially for my age!) and nice legs!  (confidence!)...

So I'm trying to be cnscious of these feelings... and rely on the fact that the reason I want to lose more weight is to run stronger, be stronger and be more healthy... not to look better to a man.... sorry for the weird post... I'm having stream of consciousness this morning!
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Post by: caito on May 11, 2012, 09:57:51 AM
Congrats on the muscles, MoS!

Having mixed emotions about your "new" body is totally normal.  It's great that you are acknowledging your feelings and sorting through them.  I bet over time you'll become more comfortable.

I blew it yesterday.  I've been trying to cut down on consumption since I'm barely exercising this week.  I did a good job yesterday during the day.  Then at 5pm I was starving so I ate small meal before my 6pm massage.   Then I was hungry again at 7:30 so I ate some more.    I was out of veggies and stuff.  What I ate wasn't junk, it was just too much carb and peanut butter, etc.  Then I went out with friends, had a few drinks and came home hungry and ate even more.    And this morning I woke up hungry!  Gah!   I ate oatmeal with a banana.  No snacking til lunch!

I am trying to forgive myself for overindulging this week since I did run a marathon on Sunday and maybe feeling as hungry as I am is part of recovery.  I'm going away this weekend and I know there will be wine and snacks and a big meal tomorrow night.  It's going to be fun so I don't want to obsess.    I guess I'm giving myself a break this week and will start again on Monday. 

I know it's not really a big deal, but at the same time the marathon left me so inspired to keep improving my fitness and and I feel like I'm really close to something...the next level or something.  I'm going to focus on weight training even more this month because I feel like with just a little more work and minus just a couple more pounds, my arms and abs are really going to get the next level (for me.)    I feel kind of dumb back tracking this week, but I'm sure the damage will be minimal.

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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 11, 2012, 10:08:25 AM
Caito.. It's part of the recovery.. You put your body through a huge stress and the muscles need to repair.. peanut butter and carbs is not a bad choice at all for that.  Give yourself a break and enjoy a week or two of not going crazy, but also not worrying about it!
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Post by: debbatx on May 11, 2012, 10:34:02 AM
No exercise this morning - the storm we had last night kept waking me up. Long, long day at work today. The scale was down this morning - we'll see how it looks tomorrow! :fingers:
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Post by: caito on May 11, 2012, 11:12:58 AM
Good luck at graduation, debba.  Sometimes those long busy days on your feet are the best workouts.
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Post by: merigayle on May 11, 2012, 11:18:15 AM
MoS-- east bumbleeff NJ, at the NJ fairgrounds. Heading out there soon as i finish work in an hour, yet my 11am is still not here and it is 11:18  :fiery:
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Post by: debbatx on May 11, 2012, 11:18:41 AM
Thanks, caito. I just have to watch myself - I can't drink too much water before the ceremony starts, because I'm working the ramp helping direct the traffic flow on the stage, so I can't just duck out and pee if I need to. Knowing my luck, I'll hit the bathroom before everything starts, and then as soon as the graduates start to line up at the ramp, I'll have to go BAD.  :panic:
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Post by: debbatx on May 11, 2012, 02:15:26 PM
Gah. We get to leave at 2; have to be at the ceremony location at 4:30. It's to give us time to get changed and get down there. It's just long enough that I probably shouldn't go home (my clothes are in the car), because I won't have enough time at home to get anything productive done. At the same time, there is NOTHING down at the ceremony site where I could go and hang out for 2-ish hours.
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Post by: Courtney on May 11, 2012, 02:34:28 PM
Gah. We get to leave at 2; have to be at the ceremony location at 4:30. It's to give us time to get changed and get down there. It's just long enough that I probably shouldn't go home (my clothes are in the car), because I won't have enough time at home to get anything productive done. At the same time, there is NOTHING down at the ceremony site where I could go and hang out for 2-ish hours.

This sounds like a great time to find a shady/cool place to read....  :)
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Post by: debbatx on May 11, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
I'd agree, but we had a massive storm roll through last night, so it's still pretty soggy outside. :(

I think I'm going to go home. At least I'll be able to change in the comfort of my own room, rather than the bathroom at the arena.
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Post by: merigayle on May 11, 2012, 06:58:27 PM
At my hotel prerace and instead of restaurant food I got a lean cuisine and a bag of broccoli. But sheesh I sm still hungry but trying g to be good!
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 11, 2012, 07:04:38 PM
At my hotel prerace and instead of restaurant food I got a lean cuisine and a bag of broccoli. But sheesh I sm still hungry but trying g to be good!

UMM.. Aren't you running for 24 hours?  I only ran 5 miles and ate way more than that!
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Post by: merigayle on May 11, 2012, 07:38:53 PM
I went to the lobby and got two cookies. Better? I will eat tomorrow never fear.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 12, 2012, 07:04:29 AM
I don't know what's happening!  I stepped on the scale and I was down 2 lbs today!  Into a new decade too.. and it's the decade I was running all of my fast times at!  I am being careful with my eating, but not obsessive and good with my running... I'm losing more now that I am not doing the biggest loser..
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Post by: onawhim on May 12, 2012, 07:49:46 AM
Great job MoS!  Are you doing specific ab work as well or just diet and running?
Good luck meri  :)
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on May 12, 2012, 08:47:34 AM
Great job MoS!  Are you doing specific ab work as well or just diet and running?
Good luck meri  :)

I do a lot of core with the trainer, but that's just once a week.  On my own I usually try to do a few planks after I run.. Maybe some leg raises and crunches, but I'm not good about it. My core is very weak so I can only do the basics.. but the basics seem to be working for me.  And the pushups.. They help overall. I read that pushups are the best thing for an overall body workout... I still do the girl ones but I think if you hold your core tight it still works your core a bit. Another thing with the pushups is instead of girl ones, you can do them on the stairs and as you get better lower the step.  But I don't have stairs in my apartment.
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Post by: Jamers86 on May 12, 2012, 09:01:09 AM
Only up 3 from before the wedding.  Which puts me on track to be 5 down by June 30th.
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 12, 2012, 03:08:29 PM
Great job everyone on the weight loss!

I've been lurking but rarely get the chance to post....I hate posting from my phone and that is where I do my lurking from.

I did great at eating day before yesterday and got in a fantastic 6.6 mile run.  Yesterday's food wasn't too hot but spent the morning at the toddler gym bouncing around.  This morning we went to story time and they were both so well behaved I couldn't believe it!  They both sat through an entire book....amazing.

I'm doing some Mother's Day baking today.  Rachel isn't napping while David is.... so makes it a little difficult, and I've not gotten a run in today.  I did, unfortunately, have to do an emergency dog washing session because both dogs visited the cow pasture next door and perfumed themselves with cow shit.  Ugh.

Good luck to those racing this weekend!  Also Happy Mother's Day to you moms out there.   :bouquet: 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 13, 2012, 06:41:41 PM
Hope everyone had a great weekend! Food-wise, I've done okay. Not great, but okay, and I'm cool with it. The numbers on the scale are still generally good numbers. Going to a movie tonight and I will probably eat a burger and fries while we're there, but I haven't had a damn burger since Easter and I want one. And this place has pretty decent ones, so I will have a burger and a cider and fries and will not feel a whit guilty about it.
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Post by: diablita on May 13, 2012, 07:03:18 PM
That's great, debba.  I'll take a good day over a bad one any day.  How did the graduation go?
Meri, I can't wait to hear about your race.

Bolloxd, I'm jealous of the 6.6 run.  I haven't had time to get in a long run in a few weeks.  It was my only Mother's Day wish to go for a long run today but the weather had different ideas.  I don't mind running in the rain (and I did this morning) but the tick season is SO bad this year and I didn't want to take my dog on long trails to get super muddy and full of ticks in the rain (he's black).  So I was limited on where I could run on pavement.  Only 3.

I wasn't tremendously good today but made good choices instead of bad (e.g., egg white omelet at the breakfast place w/ wheat toast, said 'no' to potatoes) and dinner was full of veggies.  And actually...we only ate two meals today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 13, 2012, 07:07:06 PM
not much details about my race. I ran 50 miles. I was planning on 60 but i wanted to sleep a few hours since i had to drive myself back home (and the ride up took about 4 hours!) and i just could not sleep. I spent 2 hours awake in my tent, too much race noise and then i spent 4 hours in my car and barely slept. I was really cranky and just called it a day, hung out, cheered on friends, showered and packed up my tent and stuff. I knew like almost every runner there, so that was really fun. I did not eat much during the race but we went to the vegan buffet for dinner for Mother's Day and ate a whole bunch of food and more. I may explode.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 13, 2012, 07:27:42 PM
Nancy Clark, the sports nutrition guru and author of Nancy Clark's Sports Nutrition Guidebook, has an office in the Boston area and I'm considering making an appointment with her.  I just am never sure what my caloric needs really are.  A couple of sessions with her will run a few hundred dollars, she doesn't take my insurance.    I think it's worth the investment, I'm just having trouble pulling the trigger...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 13, 2012, 07:50:43 PM
sounds like a good investment to me, Caito, especially since you're on the cusp of something new and the help might get you there faster


meri, 'only' 50 miles.  you are amazing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 13, 2012, 08:34:19 PM
I know. My goal was only 60 miles, so not too bad. It was super hot and i was just exhausted from the start of the race. It was a great time seeing all my friends who i have not seen in a long time. And then there were a few people who i did not know, but knew me. One of the top runners stopped and said "i saw your badwater picture in ultrarunning magazine" i was like, wow, pretty cool. It is amazing how a lot of runners keep tabs on other runners, i am so not like that and just do my own thing, so it is always amazing when people know what i have been up to. There was this older couple that i always see there and they were in the 72 hours, moving slowly but surely the whole race and a lot of men, especially older men, at the end of races, do the ultra lean, where they are leaning to one side, and this couple, both of them were leaning, but towards each other, it was pretty cool.

on a side note, at this race last year i was "poisoned"  because they fried all the food in bacon fat, even the veggie burgers and vegan soy cheeze burritos. they were totally innocent about the mistake and i even felt bad mentioning it to them. well, the RD and the staff had a separate grill, labeled with a huge sign for people to use for just the vegetarian food and a huge selection of food i could eat. It was really nice. I ate a bunch of pierogies and i am convinced that is the best race food :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on May 14, 2012, 01:58:53 AM
Nancy Clark, the sports nutrition guru and author of Nancy Clark's Sports Nutrition Guidebook, has an office in the Boston area and I'm considering making an appointment with her.  I just am never sure what my caloric needs really are.  A couple of sessions with her will run a few hundred dollars, she doesn't take my insurance.    I think it's worth the investment, I'm just having trouble pulling the trigger...

 :-*  I love Nancy Clark!  What a great opportunity.  Do you have a cafeteria plan or HSA you could use for it? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 14, 2012, 09:41:29 AM
Graduation was LONG and I was on my feet for almost all of it. Oof.

In other news, my coworker who graduated this weekend (different school) keeps bringing in cake that other people keep giving her. GAH!

Went to see Avengers last night (it's awesome), and it lasted longer than I thought, so no getting up this morning. :( Planning on tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 14, 2012, 10:34:35 AM
Nancy Clark is so nice!  I emailed her at 7:30am to ask for an appointment and she called me back at 9am!  I get to go see her on Thursday afternoon.  I can't believe how quickly she responded and how soon I can see her!   I mean, my impression of her is that she is one of then nation's most well known sports nutrition experts.  And my appointment is 1.5 hours long.  $210.   Considering how much time/effort/emotional turmoil food/eating costs me, I think this is well worth it.   I can't wait til Thursday!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on May 14, 2012, 10:45:50 AM
Nancy Clark is so nice!  I emailed her at 7:30am to ask for an appointment and she called me back at 9am!  I get to go see her on Thursday afternoon.  I can't believe how quickly she responded and how soon I can see her!   I mean, my impression of her is that she is one of then nation's most well known sports nutrition experts.  And my appointment is 1.5 hours long.  $210.   Considering how much time/effort/emotional turmoil food/eating costs me, I think this is well worth it.   I can't wait til Thursday!



Yes, this!  One of my best best buddies is a serious tri guy (and lately a really really serious cycler) and he swears by her guidance.  (I used to tease him for always having the perfect packed snack on hand.  But his granola baggies came in hand more than once :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on May 14, 2012, 11:09:47 AM
Nancy Clark is so nice!  I emailed her at 7:30am to ask for an appointment and she called me back at 9am!  I get to go see her on Thursday afternoon.  I can't believe how quickly she responded and how soon I can see her!   I mean, my impression of her is that she is one of then nation's most well known sports nutrition experts.  And my appointment is 1.5 hours long.  $210.   Considering how much time/effort/emotional turmoil food/eating costs me, I think this is well worth it.   I can't wait til Thursday!



I can't wait to hear your report.  I had a friend in the Boston area who went to see her.  She reported a negative experience, but the friend was rather critical and negative about everything.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 14, 2012, 11:13:34 AM
I spent mord to see one of the top macrobiotic nutritionists, worth every penny!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on May 14, 2012, 05:25:52 PM
I spent mord to see one of the top macrobiotic nutritionists, worth every penny!

Have you ever heard of the Kushi institute?  It's not far from where I live, and apparently, it is world famous.  (hard to believe).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 14, 2012, 06:54:26 PM
Have you ever heard of the Kushi institute?  It's not far from where I live, and apparently, it is world famous.  (hard to believe).
yes! he is one of the big guns out of there. it is very famous!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 14, 2012, 09:18:55 PM
WOW! Nancy Clark. Cool. I have her nutrition for marathoners book and it is so helpful. An appointment with her would be an incredible investment. Let us know how it goes!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 15, 2012, 07:31:44 AM
Remember SGH? she went to a lecture of Nancy Clark and really enjoyed it years ago. I also believe Nancy Clark touched on why a lot of very active women cannot lose weight. I think this will be great! i cannot wait to hear how it goes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 15, 2012, 08:12:10 AM
I am so excited.   I started doing my homework for my appointment yesterday, writing down what I typically eat and my exercise habits.  And then I kept writing a bunch of stuff that popped into my head that is related so I won't forget anything.  Poor Nancy, I'm going to talk her ear off!  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 15, 2012, 10:14:51 AM
Hope it goes well, caito - that's great that she could see you so quickly!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on May 15, 2012, 10:33:05 AM
I finally dragged out my scale and it is broken  >:(  It kept giving me totally different numbers with a range of 8lbs.  I do not want to haggle with my scale!  This is one of the reasons why I do not weigh myself  :D  Does anyone have a digital scale that does not suck? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 15, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
Well I ran three miles yesterday at the linear park, right before a storm blew in. The wind was gusting and there was thunder in the distance. It was awesome, but all the wind blew something horrid into my sinuses. I woke up with a sore scratchy throat!!!

ARGH ALLERGIES!!!!!! This always happens to me. I get back into my running routine, then I get cocky and run when I probably shouldn't. Then BAM. scratchy throat.

 :argh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 15, 2012, 10:58:00 AM
Well I ran three miles yesterday at the linear park, right before a storm blew in. The wind was gusting and there was thunder in the distance. It was awesome, but all the wind blew something horrid into my sinuses. I woke up with a sore scratchy throat!!!

ARGH ALLERGIES!!!!!! This always happens to me. I get back into my running routine, then I get cocky and run when I probably shouldn't. Then BAM. scratchy throat.

 :argh:

Lately I come home from work with a sore throat every single day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 15, 2012, 11:31:45 AM
Yep, that's what keeps happening to me, tricia. Right now, the acupuncture seems to be holding. The mold count was 2524 yesterday, and all I am is mildly congested right now. Normally, I'd feel like I got run over, picked up, and compacted by a garbage truck with numbers like that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on May 15, 2012, 11:34:48 AM
This is what keeps me on the TM even though it is beautiful out  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 15, 2012, 11:40:20 AM
I don't have a TM. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 15, 2012, 12:06:33 PM
Lately I come home from work with a sore throat every single day.

Yesterday was bad, and I didn't exercise outside even.  No idea why, I'm assuming it's something to do with the allergens looming around out there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 15, 2012, 12:59:11 PM
I finally dragged out my scale and it is broken  >:(  It kept giving me totally different numbers with a range of 8lbs.  I do not want to haggle with my scale!  This is one of the reasons why I do not weigh myself  :D  Does anyone have a digital scale that does not suck?
i never trusted any digital scale, three weigh ins in a row can yield three different #s, i have a dial scale.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 15, 2012, 01:07:02 PM
My WW-branded digital scale has held up well, despite me standing on it regularly. I think we picked it up at Costco a few years ago.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 15, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
I finally dragged out my scale and it is broken  >:(  It kept giving me totally different numbers with a range of 8lbs.  I do not want to haggle with my scale!  This is one of the reasons why I do not weigh myself  :D  Does anyone have a digital scale that does not suck? 

Have you tried changing the batteries?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on May 15, 2012, 01:19:08 PM
Have you tried changing the batteries?

Hmm good idea.  I will try that.  Then again every time I got on it gave a lower number  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 15, 2012, 01:20:17 PM
KEEP IT!!!!

 :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on May 15, 2012, 01:36:13 PM
I have a Tanita body fat scale.  I never use the body fat part of it, but the scale is very accurate.  I got it at Bed Bath & Beyond several years ago with a 20% off coupon, so it cost me the same as a regular digital scale. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on May 15, 2012, 01:42:10 PM
KEEP IT!!!!

 :D

 :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 15, 2012, 02:04:16 PM
Hi ladies!  I've been lurking but not posting....I hate posting from my phone but I do most lurking from it.

Anyways, my exercising has been pretty non-existent the last few days.  I had a massage yesterday and did a quick 20 push-ups before she came into the room, so she could focus on my shoulders.   :hah:  I'm anxious for another run, hopefully today.  Eating habits are poor... but oh my the orange pound cake is so good.  I *must* get back into the habit of meal planning....somehow.

The kids have been crazy again lately.  This morning though David woke up with a fever.  So it explains his grumpiness lately, hopefully he'll feel better soon.  I also went & had my hair cut & colored for the first time a many many many months.  A nice new style and PURPLE layers underneath.  D & R keep saying 'purple hair' a lot.  :D  It's subtle unless you look closely.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 15, 2012, 03:19:36 PM
Awww, poor David. I hope he's feeling better soon. And yeah, my exercise hasn't been good, to say the least.  :-\
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 15, 2012, 04:24:14 PM
So now I have a headache and a sore throat. Awesome. This is going to make the rest of my workday just awesome (and I cannot leave early because I am running an experiment). :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 15, 2012, 09:06:29 PM
Oh. My. God.

(http://images.texas.ynn.com/media/weather/onair/SFX_TWEAN_POLLEN_COUNT.jpg?54523)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 15, 2012, 10:57:14 PM
Oof that sounds painful debba.

MM, hope your feeling better soon!


David was still running a fever at bedtime but hopefully he'll sleep it off.  He's been very cuddly today.  I was lucky to get a 6 mile run in earlier...felt so good.  I've been starving & eating constantly since then, ugh.  My huge weakness is caramel creams.  Why are they so good!?


There is a 5K this weekend I would love to do, but it requires a $100 to be raised and I don't think I could get that on such short notice.  Hopefully next year. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 16, 2012, 07:00:58 AM
good morning.  awful sleep last night; J woke us up in the middle of the night.  She did this over the weekend; not sure what's up.

Bolloxd, I hope David is feeling better this morning.  Glad you got the run in, and the purple hair!  Pics pls

And debba, nice to read that the acupuncture is working.  :w00t:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on May 16, 2012, 07:02:17 AM
I am so excited.   I started doing my homework for my appointment yesterday, writing down what I typically eat and my exercise habits.  And then I kept writing a bunch of stuff that popped into my head that is related so I won't forget anything.  Poor Nancy, I'm going to talk her ear off!  :D

You pay to LISTEN to her and hear her advice!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 16, 2012, 07:35:13 AM
nothing exciting here. spending my recovery by cleaning and prepping for my MIL and DD's bday party. Next week, will do a regular run schedule then the week after go back to 2 a days until taper time  :panic: shit, July will be here before i know it!!
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: radial on May 16, 2012, 07:37:23 AM
I finally dragged out my scale and it is broken  >:(  It kept giving me totally different numbers with a range of 8lbs.  I do not want to haggle with my scale!  This is one of the reasons why I do not weigh myself  :D  Does anyone have a digital scale that does not suck?
Probably more than you want, but I really like my Withings digital scale.  Accurate, wi-fi enabled, nice to look at.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on May 16, 2012, 08:52:17 AM
Probably more than you want, but I really like my Withings digital scale.  Accurate, wi-fi enabled, nice to look at.

That does look nice.  I am fine with the price I am just not sure why I would want my weight on the internet  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 16, 2012, 09:31:05 AM
Reid came back from my parents' last night and flat wore me out. And my temps have dropped, so PMS totally explains why I've been snacking more than usual. And then Reid woke up at 5.30 this morning. We let him "snuggle" in our bed. There was no snuggling involved. I have no idea how you co-sleepers do it. :sleep: :luvcoffee:

Maybe a shuffle tonight - we'll see how things go today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on May 16, 2012, 10:01:21 AM
Down a bit this am. I was all gung ho to run or walk 5x/week for at least an hour. It hasn't quite worked out like I wanted but I did go last night, even though it was 81 degrees (sooooooooo hot for this temperate weather girl). I can definitely feel that my right ankle is nqr. It hasn't rolled on me, but my gait is definitely different. 

We have some fancy body fat scale and it is very, very accurate. I used to weigh myself multiple times but it always gives the same number, to the .1lb, so I don't bother anymore.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 16, 2012, 12:24:11 PM
I would like to admit something:   I really like tofu.   A few days ago I got a block of extra firm, pressed out some of the water, cut it up into squares, tossed it with garlic infused olive oil and garlic powder and salt and baked at 400 it til the outside got a little crisp and brown.  And holy moly, it's delicious.  I just finished the last few pieces for lunch and I miss it already.    I think the key was high temp and leaving it in a little longer than normal so the outside had a nice bite too it.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 16, 2012, 12:29:13 PM
i love tofu too  :heartbeat: but you probably already knew that :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 16, 2012, 12:31:47 PM
I  don't know what is wrong with me this week. I am so tired I can barely function and I have theoretically been getting plenty of sleep.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on May 16, 2012, 12:44:07 PM
I love tofu too! I even like it raw and with nothing added to it.

I'm cranky because I had planned to run afterwork before an evening commitment but I forgot my running clothes at home. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 16, 2012, 01:08:30 PM
I was lazy this morning. The mold counts are through the roof right now. So far, the acupuncture is holding.  :fingers: that it keeps up. My next appointment is Monday.

Also, I really, really want to talk DH into adopting another dog. The shelter's so overcrowded right now. :( I want one.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 16, 2012, 01:34:29 PM
I've only tried tofu once... I think I messed it up because it was horrible.  DH & I both had bad stomachs afterwards, too.

Diablita, I tried to get pics but they are not showing the purple very well.  I'm already anxious to try another brighter color once it starts to fade.  I may try to get pics again later.
Debba, glad the acupuncture seems to be helping, that is great!
Meri, the time is flying! 

Well this morning Rachel woke up with a fever.  Blah.  Both are grumpy but at least David's fever is gone...only now he's complaining about his belly hurting.  Also, Rachel actually asked to go take a nap...so you know she feels bad ASKING to nap.  I hope DH & I don't catch it.  Neither of them are eating well but they are getting lots of fluids.

I feel like I'm drowning in house work lately.  Hopefully I'll catch up some today even though I'd honestly like to run again...we'll see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 16, 2012, 01:44:42 PM
Awwwww, hope they're both feeling better soon!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: hally on May 17, 2012, 11:02:21 AM
I like tofu a lot and it seems like the weeks I have a block of it and use it as my protein I lose.

I LOVE TJ's baked tofu but it's expensive. Have to try one of the baked tofu recipes.
But other then that I just cube the extra firm and brown in a teaspoon of evoo on all sides, then remove it, cook the veggies and readd it with whatever sauce to get hot.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 17, 2012, 11:49:48 AM
I'm hanging in there. The mold numbers...  :yikes: :nono:

The fact that I'm not unconscious from drugs has to be a testament to the acupuncture. I should be passed out, and I'm only mildly congested. It's amazing.

Other than that, I'm dealing with period bloat/cravings and being pissed off at my husband. I'm also a lazy slacker, as usual, when it comes to exercise.

Hope y'all are doing well!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 17, 2012, 01:44:35 PM
I am having a super rough week and I dont know what the problem is. I cannot get enough sleep and I end each day with a headache and sore throat. I havent even been able to muster up the energy to do anything but go to bed practically the minute I get home. Last night I got like 11 hours of sleep and I am still dead tired. WTF?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 17, 2012, 01:47:50 PM
 :preggo:

 :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 17, 2012, 02:13:45 PM
:preggo:

 :D

Nope.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 17, 2012, 02:16:07 PM
I know, I was just teasing. What are the allergy counts like where you are? Mold was at 8900 yesterday here.  :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 17, 2012, 03:47:25 PM
You guys, Nancy Clark is AWESOME!  She is so nice and friendly and easy to talk to.  And supportive.   

The good news is that I'm on the right track and I make good food choices.  My regular diet includes enough protein.   To help me with my sometimes uncontrollable snacking urges and portion size control problems, she pointed out how and when to eat my meals.  By writing it all out, she has given me "permission" to eat more at breakfast and lunch, and then a second lunch around 3pm.   Front loading calories this way will help ruin the appetite for dinner so dinner becomes your smallest meal.

She doesn't want you to be hungry.  Hunger just makes you irrational and that's definitely when I lose control with portions and snacking.     What I've been doing for ages that has not worked is eating smaller bits spread out throughout the day.  I keep "saving" calories for the next snack.  All this does is leave me never quite fully satisfied and kind of hungry, and therefore all I do is think about food.   When I'm actually satisfied, I don't obsess about the next meal.

She doesn't want you to diet.  She wants you to eat the foods you love and be satisfied.   A 600 calorie lunch could be 2 pieces of pizza and a salad once in a while.  Or could include my beloved bagel and cream cheese.  I never would have given myself permission to do that. 

I'm going to experiment with when and how I eat my meals for the next 3 weeks, and then I get to go back and talk to her more about training and sports nutrition and body image, etc.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 17, 2012, 03:56:53 PM
awesome!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 17, 2012, 04:23:48 PM
Caito that sounds like a fantastic appointment with some great info.  I can't wait to hear how the changes work for you.  And, GOOD JOB on having such a good diet to start with, that is a big plus in your favor.

Debba, so glad you're surviving the mold despite the PMS hassles. 

MM, not sure what is causing you issues but I hope you feel better soon.

Hally, how's things going for you lately?


Last night was a rough one... Rachel woke up twice from nightmares and a fever.  Spent an hour in our bed to calm her down and temp this morning was 103.1, really unhappy.  David is still complaining about 'belly hurt'.  I'm hoping they feel slightly better after today's nap.

DH's friend has gotten into running lately and is planning races locally, so he has convinced DH to start running (nevermind that I've been asking him to join me for months!).  So I went out for a run with DH around the house, 3.5 miles, and he did pretty good for starting fresh....but I was *very* pleased with myself at being fitter than him.   :>D:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 17, 2012, 04:25:57 PM
awww, it is so hard with the wee ones! DD has been going thru a lot of "mommy xxx hurts" at bedtime because she did have something hurt once and we turned the lights on, blah blah blah, so she tries it every night. My tummy hurts, i ate too much, ok, then go to sleep, it will feel better. My eyes hurt. Ok, they hurt because you are tired go to sleep :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on May 17, 2012, 04:32:27 PM
   Front loading calories this way will help ruin the appetite for dinner so dinner becomes your smallest meal.


Caito, could you elaborate on this?  I find this interesting, since I make dinner my largest meal, but I have it a 5 pm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 17, 2012, 04:58:46 PM
Caito, could you elaborate on this?  I find this interesting, since I make dinner my largest meal, but I have it a 5 pm.

Well we do most of our activity during the day, so it makes sense to fuel up earlier on.  Then at dinner, you eat less because you need less fuel for sleep.  Then you wake up hungry and ready to start again.

 The times when I am most hungry are  right before lunch, late afternoon, and when I get home from the gym at 6:30/7pm.   And then late in the evening, I'm prone to snacking.

She wants me to schedule full, satiating meals earlier on in the day to prevent me from getting bone gnawing hungry right before lunch and dinner.  If I keep myself satisfied and fully fueled throughout the day, I will be less hungry later on.    She made me realize by eating little bits (200 calories at at time, for example) and trying to "save" calories for later, I'm just keeping myself from being satisfied.  She didn't prescribe a drastic cut in calories for me, just rearranging when I eat them.  If I'm satisfied, I'm less likely to snack later on.   

If you're not hungry all day and then overeat later on, then I'm not sure what this means for you. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 17, 2012, 06:15:29 PM
interesting. when i get back to two a days i may try that. i get very hungry late morning/early afternoon, but often by dinner i am not as hungry as i think i should be. i do wake up very hungry most mornings and that always led me to think i need to eat more at night.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 17, 2012, 08:43:42 PM
that's so interesting, Caito.  Glad you enjoyed the appointment, what a great opportunity.
Bolloxd, sorry the littles are still sick.  It seems like they haven't both been 100% for a couple of weeks now.
And MM, feel better

I did 2 runs today: 3 miles on lunch break and then my DH found me in my office at 4:30 so stressed that I was going to explode.  So he picked up DD from school w/ the bike on the car and had me meet them in the forest.  Eddie & I ran alongside them on the bike in a downpour.  It was heaven.  I felt rescued.  :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on May 17, 2012, 09:17:10 PM
caito, did she say something about the number of hours between meals or between eating?
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Post by: caito on May 17, 2012, 09:20:08 PM
caito, did she say something about the number of hours between meals or between eating?

Yes, she said your body usually wants food every 4 hours.

For me, breakfast split between pre-run snack at 6:15am and post at 8:15.  Lunch 1 around 11.  Lunch 2 at 3pm.  Dinner at 7.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 17, 2012, 09:52:48 PM
That timing makes sense. I've noticed that since I added two moderate snacks to my day that I'm not nearly as hungry at dinner, so I've been content with a normal portion. I might want more, because it's good, but I don't *need* more.

Glad you had a good meeting with her, caito - sounds interesting!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on May 17, 2012, 11:22:13 PM
Today I wore a pair of pants that has been uncomfortably snug for at least 8 months.  This has nothing to do with healthy eating or fitness and everything to do with getting my tonsils out.  Still, I'll take it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 17, 2012, 11:24:31 PM
Well my bout with allergy sickies crud has helped me drop a few.

yay sickness. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 18, 2012, 09:58:55 AM
My allergies usually make me gain, tricia, because I feel so crappy that all I want to do is eat junk. It's all I can taste. Hope you're feeling better soon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 18, 2012, 10:49:12 AM
When I'm sick I usually crave junky comfort food too, but I have very little or no appetite.  :-\ Feeling better today.. just still hacking up a lung. I'm not running until at least Sunday or Monday, I think.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 18, 2012, 11:12:20 AM
Awwww, that sucks. I've been there, done that. Rest up and feel better soon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 21, 2012, 08:41:33 AM
so i have been doing really well and was down another pound this week, i am sure running the 24 hour race helped with that ;) but this weekend was DD's party. Not that there was any "bad" food, but not all low cal and just so yummy i cannot stop eating it. we have soooo much in the house. i am going to bring a friend some, but that is it, not sure who else to pawn it off to :D I am hoping i did not do too much damage!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 21, 2012, 09:49:27 AM
I doubt you did too much damage, meri, not after running a 24-hour race and with the kind of mileage you put in! I did okay this weekend - not great, not horrible. The period bloating seems to be going away, at least, so that's an improvement. Reid woke us up twice last night around 1 and 1:30 AM, so I didn't manage to crawl out of bed for a run this morning.  :-\

Acupuncture this afternoon. I'm looking forward to laying there with my eyes closed and needles in my body somewhere.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 21, 2012, 10:20:33 AM
ugh, I passed out in DD's bed, went to my bed around midnight and around 5am she woke up crying about being itchy and her pjs and undies were off, put them back on her, calmed her down and dozed on and off in her bed until 6:45am. I am tried too. They are tough these little kids.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 21, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
Awwww. Reid woke up yelling that he'd spilled his cereal. Which, to be fair, he had. I warned him that would happen. At least it was just dry cheerios. And then half an hour later it was that his water cup was in the wrong place.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 21, 2012, 12:28:09 PM
the other night DD was talking in her sleep about kangaroos! then when she woke up, DH told her there was a kangaroo in her room and she flipped out, LOL!!!!

oh and Stacy's Pita chips have crack in them, they must. Thankfully i only bought them at the market, and not the Costco size bag and only like a few crumbs are left.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 21, 2012, 02:07:08 PM
LOL! Reid is pretty unintelligible when he babbles in his sleep. It's pretty funny, though, usually.

Let's see, I forgot to grab my new container of hummus for my veggies, so I ended up going for something else to add to my lunch, and that ended up being cookies and a muffin. *headdesk* Hmph.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: bensmom243 on May 21, 2012, 03:05:11 PM
the other night DD was talking in her sleep about kangaroos! then when she woke up, DH told her there was a kangaroo in her room and she flipped out, LOL!!!!

oh and Stacy's Pita chips have crack in them, they must. Thankfully i only bought them at the market, and not the Costco size bag and only like a few crumbs are left.

I can't buy the pita chips anymore. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 21, 2012, 03:58:07 PM
Luckily there were just crumbs left! I used to think i could buy them but they are beyond addicting!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on May 21, 2012, 04:01:32 PM
Oh, I love the pita chips! I also love pretzle chips and those flax chips. YUM!

I find that running causes my weight to swing wildly upwards. Why is that? Like, I went for a run last night and this morning? Up 2lbs. It makes no sense.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 21, 2012, 04:04:06 PM
Sore muscles? Water retention? Haven't you been out of commission because of your ankle?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 21, 2012, 04:06:46 PM
Right after races i am up, i just think it os gatorade and salt tabs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on May 21, 2012, 04:43:42 PM
Sore muscles? Water retention? Haven't you been out of commission because of your ankle?

Yes, I have been. I just started running again a couple of weeks ago after I got my cortisone shot. I don't drink anything like gatorade. I just drink water. I'm running for an hour at a time (well running part of it, walking part of it) so not longe enough to need anything more than plain water at the end.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 21, 2012, 05:15:47 PM
Oh, I love the pita chips! I also love pretzle chips and those flax chips. YUM!

I find that running causes my weight to swing wildly upwards. Why is that? Like, I went for a run last night and this morning? Up 2lbs. It makes no sense.

That often happens to me also. Are you sore?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 21, 2012, 05:39:25 PM
i am having a hard time not eating everything in the house! i think because it is such variety that we never have, like veggies and dip. yummmmmy. looking forward to getting back into routine with work tomorrow. Next week i plan on starting the 2-a-day runs again, but i am so tired, i cannot even think about that right now :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 21, 2012, 08:09:54 PM
meri, that kind of variety is really dangerous for me, too

we have DD's birthday party in 2 weeks (1 month later b/c she wanted it at the pool).  I'm in trouble!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 21, 2012, 08:40:12 PM
Yes, I have been. I just started running again a couple of weeks ago after I got my cortisone shot. I don't drink anything like gatorade. I just drink water. I'm running for an hour at a time (well running part of it, walking part of it) so not longe enough to need anything more than plain water at the end.

Could it just be getting back into the swing of things after time off? Or a weird side effect of the shot?

In other news, I love getting acupuncture. No idea how it works or what's going on in there, but I love it. SO relaxing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 22, 2012, 09:17:11 AM
my period is due end of the week, so like the genius i am, i got on the scale and was up all 6lbs i lost in the past month.  :argh: i am pretty sure it is just PMS because i know in the past, i could easily gain 6-8lbs prior to my period. really one bad day of eating? and not even that bad.....
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 22, 2012, 09:46:06 AM
Meri, don't beat yourself up please. You also had extra sodium in that food, I'm sure, so the combo could easily be attributable and temporary.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 22, 2012, 01:25:39 PM
Yesterday?  Um, no good.  GAH.  I feel like I'm regressing. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 22, 2012, 01:40:02 PM
Yesterday?  Um, no good.  GAH.  I feel like I'm regressing.
:hug: you just got to regroup, refocus and believe tomorrow is a new day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 22, 2012, 02:13:33 PM
Yesterday?  Um, no good.  GAH.  I feel like I'm regressing. 

I feel the same way.

Only mine is a combo of factors...I get too lazy to work out, I just want to eat some yummy food, and I think I am sick with some intestinal thing which makes the concept of running unappealing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 22, 2012, 02:32:50 PM
Courtney, take a deep breath. Or several. Put away (in the trash, if necessary) whatever it is you're binging on, if that's what you're doing. What baby steps can you take to get back on track? Do them.  :hug: You'll get there. I have faith in you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 22, 2012, 02:59:07 PM
i think i need to toss the rest of the bday leftovers. there is just sooooo much and DH swears no one he works with would want it  :eyeroll: i have these massive bowls of pasta salad and sesame noodles, not something i would generally eat. i have been eating the brown rice salad left overs and my friend's DH wants a bunch of it so i will drop it off there tomorrow. I also need to toss the dips. DH ate the rest of the cake and there is one cupcake left, so i think i am safe from that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 22, 2012, 03:05:30 PM
I have tossed food before.  Like, ice cream.    It was hard to do because I felt guilty about wasting food and money, but it had to be done. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 22, 2012, 03:13:15 PM
Courtney, take a deep breath. Or several. Put away (in the trash, if necessary) whatever it is you're binging on, if that's what you're doing. What baby steps can you take to get back on track? Do them.  :hug: You'll get there. I have faith in you.

I'm not entirely sure what is going on with me right now.  Last night I was very upset, and there's no mystery as to why I was out of sorts then, but it's more than that. 

It's like I have taken my good habits and said "fuck you guys" and reverted to some old ways.

I'm at least exercising.  That's consistent. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 22, 2012, 03:18:27 PM
If I win the lottery, I'm taking all of us to Canyon Ranch in Arizona or some other health and wellness spa so we can all have a vacation and recharge our healthy lifestyle habits.  And also get spa treatments.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 22, 2012, 03:52:24 PM
If I win the lottery, I'm taking all of us to Canyon Ranch in Arizona or some other health and wellness spa so we can all have a vacation and recharge our healthy lifestyle habits.  And also get spa treatments.
no, no, Biggest Loser spa and i want Dolvett and Bob  :preen:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 22, 2012, 04:14:12 PM
Been there. Done that. Got the XXL tshirt. Is there anything you can do right now that would be a positive step for you?

I'm working really hard on my frustration with DH, and not letting that frustration spill over into me binging. It sucks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 22, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Courtney...maybe you need a motivator. Is there something you really want or a non food treat you can give yourself for staying on track?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 22, 2012, 05:59:02 PM
Been there. Done that. Got the XXL tshirt. Is there anything you can do right now that would be a positive step for you?

I'm working really hard on my frustration with DH, and not letting that frustration spill over into me binging. It sucks.
it's hard! DH was causing me mucho stress in the fall and i think that is how i gained the 10lbs i am still struggling to lose. Part of it was post Badwater eating, but most of it was just stress.

oh and i read the Newsweek article on obesity and it was interesting, to a point. it was really talking about how sugar and refined carbs, etc make us fat, more than calories in calories out and exercise is not a part of the solution because it just makes us hungrier.

what i disagreed about in the article was that he said that exercise was not important since it made people hungrier and it was too much effort to burn not enough calories, because health is not just about weight and i believe that cardiovascular activity is good for your health. Second thing I disagreed with was that eating meat is healthy. I am not saying that not eating meat is the only answer, but he is only looking from a weight standpoint, and when, once again, you look at the big picture of heart disease, cholesterol, etc, meat is a big factor. It was interesting though to see him really talk about how it is not just calories in vs calories out and discusses the obese children during the depression because they were eating sugar and bread/carbs, so even in a food shortage and when kids were more active, etc, they were obese. I see his point, but also, the obesity rate for children now is sooooooo much higher than during the great depression, and i do think a lot of it has to do with WHAT we are eating, not just as simple as sugar and carbs. There is a little mention of HFCS, but not enough, imo.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 22, 2012, 07:13:31 PM
Who wrote the article?  Sounds like Gary Taubes.  I am suspicious of him.  He's a journalist, not a scientist or doctor.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 22, 2012, 07:48:33 PM
oh i left it at work, maybe i can google it.....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 22, 2012, 07:49:36 PM
Who wrote the article?  Sounds like Gary Taubes.  I am suspicious of him.  He's a journalist, not a scientist or doctor.
i believe so!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 22, 2012, 07:52:04 PM
I haven't read the article, but I wonder if he's talking about the morbidly obese? Because for those people, exercise is probably second in importance to calories. If you physically struggle to get off the couch, you have to start with just cutting the amount of food you eat.

But if that's not what he's talking about then, eh, whatever. Exercise is good for you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on May 22, 2012, 07:56:39 PM
I tried to read one of Taubes' books and I agree that there IS an interesting and important point about insulin and refined carbs.  But his book seemed so extreme -- for the exact reasons you described.  He basically says that calories in vs. calories out don't matter at all instead of combining the ideas and suggesting eating the appropriate amounts of appropriate foods.   My gut reaction is that he's trying to be sensational and sell books.  And a lot of people WANT to hear what he is saying -- eat meat and lots of it! 

One of my good runner friends really likes him and the heavy meat & protein, anti-grain diet seems to be working for him but I think I would feel so miserable on it.     

I agree with you that in this discussion we cannot deny the impact of all the changes to our food supply, the rise of supermarkets, processed foods, HFCS, corn subsidies, what types of food are the cheapest/most easily available, etc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 22, 2012, 08:40:02 PM
yep, pretty much the article. we get Newsweek at the office and the cover story caught my eye, i generally do not read a lot of magazines. I just think it is ignorant to write off things that ARE healthy, even if not promoting weight loss-- exercise, plant based diet, etc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 22, 2012, 11:03:26 PM
I read that article too and it was just so simplistic. Okay I get it. Sugar and refined carbs can be bad in large amounts. But so can just about everything else. It made it seem like that was the magic answer to people's weight loss.

Speaking of weight loss. I've noticed quite a few of our customers have lost a bit of weight. Like substantial enough for me to notice after not seeing some of these people for weeks. It was so awesome and inspiring to see the transformations! I don't know what happened or what sparked so many people to suddenly decide to shape up. But it made me feel like a slug.

Still nursing a sore throat and general respiratory hard-to--breathe icikyness, so no running for a couple more days. I think. Good news.. I found a running partner!! That should help keep me in line. I've never had a running partner before. Hopefully it goes well. We start the week after next.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 23, 2012, 07:21:46 AM
yeah on the running partner!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 23, 2012, 09:41:14 AM
That's awesome that you found a running partner - yay!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 23, 2012, 10:30:14 AM
another rough night with DD :( not sure what is up with her, she woke up with a cough, but seems fine otherwise. allergies? she has her 3 year check up in a week or two, so i will ask the dr then i guess. i managed to slog on the Tm barely, but i did it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 23, 2012, 11:19:55 AM
Could be allergies - I know Reid sometimes has trouble sleeping when he's dealing with them. Hope it resolves soon!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 23, 2012, 11:38:30 AM
yeah i am thinking that, will turn on the humidifier tonight for her. i am just EXHAUSTED!


oh and i forgot to relay what a patient said to me Sat "oh, it took you 3 years to do it, but it looks like you finally lost most of that baby weight" um, thank you?????   :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 23, 2012, 11:54:50 AM
Good lord.  :fiery: PLEASE tell me you stuck a needle too far in somewhere.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 23, 2012, 12:11:41 PM
Good lord.  :fiery: PLEASE tell me you stuck a needle too far in somewhere.
LOL! I just really am irked that people are paying that much attention to my weight!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 23, 2012, 01:08:45 PM
You should have stabbed her somewhere that would make her gain weight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 23, 2012, 02:43:06 PM
You should have stabbed her somewhere that would make her gain weight.
:D if only it worked that way......

i am having a stressful day and just ate about half a honeydew and i may vomit. it was better than eating crap, but i still may puke. it's like when it rains it pours.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 23, 2012, 03:09:15 PM
Courtney...maybe you need a motivator. Is there something you really want or a non food treat you can give yourself for staying on track?

Stuff like that never works for me...  I don't really want anything that bad, apparently.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 23, 2012, 03:24:47 PM



oh and i forgot to relay what a patient said to me Sat "oh, it took you 3 years to do it, but it looks like you finally lost most of that baby weight" um, thank you?????   :sigh:

 :bat:
People are SO DUMB!

Oh I bet we could write a book on stupid things clients/customers/patients say.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 23, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
Stuff like that never works for me...  I don't really want anything that bad, apparently.  :D 

I swear, we're sisters.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 23, 2012, 03:40:32 PM
I've been reading the thread, just not much chance to post.   :hug: to all of you!

I think the kids are *finally* over whatever bug it was they caught.  Still some coughing but they are acting happier lately.  We attempted camping again - it was cut short and we came back into the house to sleep.  Rachel hit me with a flash light which gave me a nice cut on the forehead w/plenty of bleeding which freaked David out require him to be cuddled while I tried not to get blood on everything.  Otherwise, if I could get them to sleep instead of bouncing around in the tent all night then we could have a lot more fun.

Anyway... because of their illness and my TOM, I finally got a chance to run yesterday and again today with DH.  Food consumption has been average.  It seems like I can only focus on one thing, rather than the combo of everything.  Either eat well, exercise regularly, have a clean house, or fill in the blank....getting them all completed to an acceptable standard is too much for me to handle.


meri - throwing out food is not the end of the world.  I tossed some pound cake the other day.  It hurts though! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 23, 2012, 06:14:30 PM
I swear, we're sisters.

Right? 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 23, 2012, 09:24:22 PM
:D

Seriously, I can't seem to find anything I want badly enough to motivate me. I'm going to try the tiny habits theory instead. See if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on May 23, 2012, 10:40:56 PM
I've been reading this thread regularly but not checking in, since I haven't been doing much in the way of fitness lately. But I finally went running today, first run since getting my tonsils out four weeks ago.  2.4 miles.  I was kind of dreading running again since it's been so long, and thought I'd probably have to walk some of it.  I ran the whole thing though, and I feel great about that.  I've pretty much maintained the weight I've lost since surgery, despite not exercising.  I'm pretty pleased with that as well.  Wedding in just over 6 weeks, so hopefully I'll hold steady where I'm at.  Also hopefully my weight won't change when I start taking birth control next month!  I've been on this pill before and I actually lost about 5 lbs (this particular pill has diruetic effects, so I'm sure it was just water weight), so hopefully this go-round will be the same deal.

Now to make dinner:  salmon with lemon parsley pasta.  I'll eat it tonight with a side of veggies, and tomorrow I'll make the leftovers into a green salad dressed with lemon wedges and olive oil.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on May 24, 2012, 07:00:11 AM


Now to make dinner:  salmon with lemon parsley pasta.  I'll eat it tonight with a side of veggies, and tomorrow I'll make the leftovers into a green salad dressed with lemon wedges and olive oil.

That sounds good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 24, 2012, 09:24:33 AM
Holding pretty steady from yesterday. I'm damn sore from the gym the other night, so lots of DFW today should get things back on track. I've been fine points-wise, so there's no good reason that I shouldn't lose this week, even if it's just a little bit.  :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 24, 2012, 01:39:48 PM
I snacked on almost an entire bag of baby carrots before my run, i felt like i was gonna vomit the whole time and still feel sick. gonna bring my lunch to work for later. wtf? how did i do that in like 5 minutes?  :confused:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 24, 2012, 02:18:25 PM
There is no way I'd be able to eat that many baby carrots. No. Way.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 24, 2012, 02:46:15 PM
There is no way I'd be able to eat that many baby carrots. No. Way.
i will probably be orange tomorrow. i still feel ill THREE HOURS LATER.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 24, 2012, 03:55:58 PM
Yeah, I couldn't handle that many carrots either.  I hope you feel better meri.

I was so hungry all day yesterday.  I couldn't get enough food and even woke up hungry in the middle of the night....I've only done that once before when I was preggo.  Must be the running.  I did another 4 miles on the treadmill today.  We took the kids to the gym to play this morning, too, so that was some extra exercise. 

I bought a bunch of fresh fruit/veggies from the store today to attempt healthier eating.  I'm hoping it won't go bad before I can eat it.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 24, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
Just the *thought* of that many carrots makes me want to barf. Good God. I can't even fathom it.

I've been eating veggies and hummus with my lunch and it's going pretty well, I guess. It's got to be better than the pretzels I used to eat.
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Post by: merigayle on May 24, 2012, 05:00:48 PM
there is this local company that makes this amazing dip called tofu tahini dip, it is beyond delicious, that is my big dipper for veggies.
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Post by: triciaflower on May 24, 2012, 05:52:44 PM
I'm embarrassed to admit that I could probably eat an entire bag of baby carrots.  :sneaking:
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Post by: Courtney on May 24, 2012, 06:33:59 PM
I'm embarrassed to admit that I could probably eat an entire bag of baby carrots.  :sneaking:

I'm embarassed to admit that I could easily eat an entire bag of cheetos, probably regarless of the size of that bag.

They are orange, too, so it's on topic, right?  :D
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Post by: merigayle on May 24, 2012, 07:42:37 PM
I'm embarrassed to admit that I could probably eat an entire bag of baby carrots.  :sneaking:
welcome to the club!
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Post by: diablita on May 24, 2012, 08:59:25 PM
Courtney, I could eat a whole bag of either!  And I'm not one for tahini, but I'd eat it with a whole lot of hummus or babaganoush.  (mmmm)


I was really good all day today but did have a higher carb dinner than I've been allowing myself lately: angel hair pasta with a bit of broccoli, quorn crumbles and some pasta sauce & cheese.  I had a portion and a half, in the past I would have eaten 2 or 3.
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Post by: nadra24 on May 24, 2012, 09:04:13 PM
My leftover salmon salad was delicious.  I don't have it in me to run today.  (See the "my grandma died" thread in the CH)  Kenyan is coming tonight and we are going out to dinner, which won't be a hugely healthy affair but that's ok.  I'm going to go home to California this weekend to hug my mama, and I'll go running while I'm there, hopefully a couple of times.  I'll probably also exercise with my parents, either a walk with my mom or a hike with my dad.  Maybe both.

In happier news, I got time off approved to do Ragnar Wasatch Back again!  I'm on a Monty Python themed team called the Knights of Knee.  I am very excited about that!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 24, 2012, 09:16:28 PM
I used to be able to eat a bag of carrots (or cheetos, for that matter), but I developed a texture aversion to them when I was pregnant - just the sight made me gag. I can't eat more than 4 or 5 raw baby carrots anymore.


I could probably still eat a whole bag of cheetos. Or nacho cheese doritos, if we're sticking with orange.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 24, 2012, 09:43:16 PM
Decided to run another 2 miles this evening on top of my earlier 4.  I've eaten a nice big bowl of pasta and will probably have pavlova before the night is over. 

There is a half marathon next weekend that I'm potentially contemplating.  It will depend entirely on a long run this Sunday.  I can take it or leave it, if I'm not up to it then it is going to give me another goal.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 24, 2012, 10:49:16 PM
I'm embarrassed to admit that I could probably eat an entire bag of baby carrots.  :sneaking:

I do it all the time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 24, 2012, 11:44:53 PM
I used to be able to eat a bag of carrots (or cheetos, for that matter), but I developed a texture aversion to them when I was pregnant - just the sight made me gag. I can't eat more than 4 or 5 raw baby carrots anymore.


I could probably still eat a whole bag of cheetos. Or nacho cheese doritos, if we're sticking with orange.

there's something about bright orange fake cheese that makes me go mmmmmmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on May 25, 2012, 12:31:22 AM
I'm embarrassed to admit that I could probably eat an entire bag of baby carrots.  :sneaking:

I eat one a day...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 25, 2012, 08:14:34 AM
my weight is still up, but period probably coming today. makes me really depressed. hoping it is back to where it was last week. i am going back into full on weight loss and hard core training mode next week, 2 weeks since my race, feeling pretty recovered, except my sleep has been TERRIBLE, DD is killing me. Last night she kept waking up and i ended up sleeping in her room because every time i snuck out she woke up and flipped out. I think she was overtired, we are going to try to get her to bed earlier tonight, but it is hard when i get home after 7pm and dinner still needs to be done, etc.
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Post by: merigayle on May 25, 2012, 07:40:33 PM
I ate a lot today. i am just really hungry. g-d hormones.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 25, 2012, 07:53:05 PM
Reid's throwing up all over the place. Every time I think it's over and try to start giving him pedialyte or water, he'll drink it, it says down for a while, and then comes back.  :o I'm not sure I'll eat much dinner tonight.
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Post by: merigayle on May 25, 2012, 08:03:06 PM
oh no! poor Reid!!! that is just terrible!!!
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Post by: diablita on May 25, 2012, 08:46:35 PM
:(

sorry that both of you are having such a tough time with your littles

We had to keep J home from school today b/c her cough won't go away.  She was a monster today.  ohmygoodness.  We gave her benadryl before bed last night & the night before (b/c the cough and runny nose were keeping her from sleeping) and she always seems to be like this after a couple of days of having it (and it was just one time per day)

bedtime was awful.  Serenity now!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 25, 2012, 09:07:14 PM
 :fingers: We ended up having to give him a bath - he barfed all over himself. Poor kid. The tub seemed to help him calm down some, though. He's had a saltine and a tiny bit of water and already went to bed. :( I don't like it when my baby is sick. The selfish part of me hopes he's over it soon - it's a 3-day weekend!  The Mom in me just wants to snuggle him all night.

Sorry that J seems to have the opposite reaction to Benadryl, diblita!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 25, 2012, 09:51:50 PM
What is up with the sick kiddos!?  I hope all of you moms are able to get some rest yourselves. 

I've had such a manic day today - fighting the stress eating this evening!  Took the kids to a bouncy castle place for an hour to burn energy, had lunch with LM, kids still had loads of energy...went for a quick walk, dropped kids & DH off at home, picked up my little bro from hospital and dropped him off at a friends, kids up from nap immediately as I walk in the door, feed them, they want in the pool - quick swim, blow thousands of bubbles, bath & bed... my head pounding the whole time. 

Both of my little brothers(LB) are full of drama today - LB2 owes LB1 money.  LB1 takes LB2's guitar - prize possession.  For attention (as one story goes) LB2 cuts himself.  LB1 takes him to ER, wants me to meet him to have LB2 committed to psych ward.  Not possible because the cut isn't considered suicidal.  LB1 then leaves LB2 there to go fishing.  LB2 gets 11 stitches and has nasty/crusty skin from a black widow bite from yesterday.  Parents are unable to do anything for pathetic reasons (which I deliver guilt trip over).  I can only shake my head and dish out the Big Sister speech in the nicest & most supportive way possible.

CHOCOLATE NOW!



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 25, 2012, 10:06:26 PM
You've earned the chocolate, Bolloxd!

And Reid's saltine for dinner just came back up. It narrowly missed his Elmo doll and landed all over one set of lovies. 2nd load of laundry for tonight is in the wash, sheets and PJs are changed, spare lovies are fresh out of the dryer...

I have a feeling it's going to be a long night.  :sleepy:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 25, 2012, 10:16:15 PM
Poor both of you!  Sorry Reid can't keep anything down. 

Bolloxd, that's quite a lot to deal with!

As for the benadryl, it works as planned when given.  It just seems like she's sensitive to it so the day after, when it's out of her system, she gets aggressive.  Is that odd?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 25, 2012, 10:37:24 PM
Huh. Maybe like a rebound thing? Interesting.

I've got my fingers crossed that we're okay for a while. He just can't have anything left in there, poor kid. I'm just worried about tomorrow. Knowing my luck, whatever this is won't be entirely out of his system, but he'll be starving. And how the hell do you tell a toddler that they can't eat? Gah!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 26, 2012, 07:08:48 AM
interesting about the benedryl, i know it can affect kids very differently as adults. we gave it to DD once and it made her hyper and did not do much for her hives. Also, i was unable to find it without red food coloring, that can affect some children's behaviors as well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 26, 2012, 07:33:37 AM
thinking about Reid this morning.  I hope he wakes up a good deal better.
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 26, 2012, 02:13:06 PM
Hope Reid is feeling better today.

Diablita, I've never paid attention to how meds affect the kids a day or so after taking it.  I will pay attention next time.


So, I only stress ate a bowl of Trix cereal last night - not too bad.  I'd forgotten that at the beginning of all that we were pulled over by a cop for speeding.  DH was questioning the margin of error on the radar and the cop got rude.  At first he said he was going to give us a ticket.  Once DH questioned him, the cop changed it to a warning... we weren't speeding *that* much, just barely.  I think we were getting a ticket but DH basically showed the cop he was smart enough to know the speed was not fast enough to warrant it. Very odd day.

Luckily, today has been good.  Took the kids to the bookstore, then to Hickory Dickory Dock....Only $2 each, bargain!  They had fun.  They aren't napping now though.... I think it will be an afternoon in the pool.

I'm planning to hydrate as much as possible & eat well today so I can attempt a 10 miler tomorrow.   
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Post by: debbatx on May 26, 2012, 02:46:48 PM
Thanks, y'all. The barfing has stopped, at least, and he's never had a fever, but he's definitely still not himself. He slept until 8, for one thing, which is unheard of, and then DH went and got his hair cut this morning, Reid and I just watched cartoons. He spent a good chunk of the morning watching TV, laying on me while I laid on the couch, and then at 11.30 he asked to go take a nap. Just woke up about 15 minutes ago. Poor kiddo.

Bolloxd, a bowl of Trix isn't that bad!
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Post by: merigayle on May 26, 2012, 02:51:45 PM
glad the puking stopped, but hope he is back to himself soon!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 26, 2012, 04:14:12 PM
Aw, poor little guy.  I'm glad the vomiting has stopped -- has he eaten anything today?

J was great earlier today but we went to lunch with friends and then a hike in the forest and wading in a creek and now she's an overtired crank monster.  Hopefully she'll nap soon; we all need it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 26, 2012, 07:53:45 PM
He's eaten, but not nearly as much as he usually does. I'm letting him take the lead on how much and what he wants to eat - I usually do anyway, but sometimes I'll ask him to take a few more bites of something if he says he's done earlier than he usually is.

He's had a bit of blueberry muffin for breakfast, a handful of saltines for a snack/lunch, and a couple pieces of fajita chicken out of his tacos tonight. He can usually eat a full muffin, a sandwich and fruit for lunch, and a full dinner, so this is really nothing for him. But his personality has perked up a lot, so he's definitely on the mend.

Thanks for all the commiseration. I needed it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 27, 2012, 12:42:07 PM
weighing myself after my long run (even after drinking a smoothie and 20oz of water) i saw the weight i wanted to see on the scale , even though i know it really does not count :D
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 27, 2012, 03:07:39 PM
That is good though Meri, right?  It means you have to be so close to it when hydrated too.

I did a 9.5 mile run this morning at 6:00 am.  Seriously early for me...I did hit snooze several times.  I made it most of the way and only walked a tiny bit near the end cos of heat.  Knees feel like they've been pounded but otherwise I'm good.  Kids aren't napping and I could really use one myself.

Cooking up some healthy food for dinner.
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Post by: diablita on May 27, 2012, 04:19:55 PM
meri, that totally counts.  :)

Nice work, Bolloxd.  It's seriously hot here.  I was going to rest today but instead took my dog for a walk to the top of the mountain we live on before it got too hot this morning.  It's some serious elevation gain.  Then I pulled weeds in the garden and we did some lawn work, then took her to the pool.

Now DD is napping (sounding a bit better today) and we have friends coming over for dinner later.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: LizardMixture on May 27, 2012, 06:20:34 PM
I figured this was a good place to post this question... how do you guys deal with making sure you get your workouts in? I find that if I don't absolutely lay down the law (as in "I am going to work out and then I am going to make dinner even if it's getting a little late") it is just not going to happen. My DH is also very much of a "ok come on let's go right now" person, not a planner.  :argh:
Just frustrated right now.
I guess I just have to work out first before I do work stuff or before I post here... or else time will just pass and before I know it I have to drop everything and do something else.
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Post by: merigayle on May 27, 2012, 07:42:55 PM
5am. seriously.

So DD asked to go in the jogging stroller!!! she has not been in it in about 10 months except for a Turkey Trot. I did 5 w  her today and am planning on 7 tomorrow on the tail end of my long run. this may mean not as many 5ams!!!   :fingers:
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Post by: merigayle on May 27, 2012, 08:25:51 PM
ok, i finally am making steel cut oats in the crock pot i bought specifically for this purpose on black friday :D will report back. Pinterest intrigued me again.
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Post by: debbatx on May 27, 2012, 09:09:25 PM
Let me know how the steel cut oats work! I keep meaning to find a crockpot recipe for them and keep forgetting.

Reid... eh, he barfed up his dinner, but otherwise seems fine. And that was almost 48 hours after his last time being sick, so needless to say, I'm befuddled. I also think he gave it to me and DH, but I think we have less spectacular versions. I've just felt queasy all day and have had a raging headache since last night, and no, I'm not pregnant, and DH just informed me rather snappily that HE WASN'T FEELING GOOD EITHER. Like I was just supposed to know that?  :grr:

Anyway, we'll see how I feel in the morning. Blargh, I was really hoping to get a run in.
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 27, 2012, 11:13:20 PM
Deb, so sorry but your DH's comment made me lol.  My DH is generally laid back & happy but anytime he gets snappy it is because he doesn't feel well but sometimes he's not aware he doesn't feel well.  Are ya with me?  So, if he's being a turd I make sure to ask if he feels ok, has a headache, etc...   it's sort of a joke.  If we argue I just mention he must have one hell of a headache.  Because I'm supposed to know!

I hope you guys all recover soon, a sick toddler when you feel like crap too is just pure torture.

LM, the best thing for me to keep up with my workouts is to have a very specific training schedule.  I was strict on myself with the C25K - every other day without missing any workouts - and it got me very well into the habit.  I can skip up to 5 days, although I'd rather not, and still be able to get back into it.  During the kids' nap time is my dedicated time to get things done or exercise.  Since I'm limited to that specific time I don't have a choice.   If I can get up super early, like today, that seems to work well....I'm just not a morning person though.   Without a training schedule or goal, I'm a lot less strict and have to push myself. 

Meri, I'm interested in how the oats work too! 
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Post by: Ice Cream on May 28, 2012, 07:23:05 AM
I make my steel cuts in the rice cooker.  I haven't tried them in the crockpot yet.  I find that the crockpot makes noise (lid hits ceramic pot) and that would be annoying in the morning, when we are still in bed.
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Post by: merigayle on May 28, 2012, 08:16:16 AM
well our kitchen is downstairs from our bedroom, no noise issues. they came out ok, but they were burnt a lot, probably about 1/2 burnt :( they are actually really tasty, but burnt, so probably only like 3 servings, it was supposed to be 7.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Cool Foot Luke on May 28, 2012, 04:15:57 PM
In case you're looking for a very healthy treat, I found that squeezing a lime over fresh canteloupe takes the taste through the roof. Canteloupe is good. Canteloupe drizzled with lime juice is amazing. I use 1 lime per 1/4 canteloupe and eat it with a spoon to make sure I get plenty of lime with each bite. As a bonus, both fruits are incredibly cheap right now.
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Post by: merigayle on May 28, 2012, 06:33:30 PM
interesting! i do not like lime that much though.... have you tried broiling or grilling a grapefruit? YUM!!

here is an awesome blog post i found via pinterest about how this woman, in her weight loss journey, momentarily wishes to be fat again. i think you will all enjoy this read :) http://theveeword.blogspot.com/2012/04/yesterday-i-missed-being-fat.html (http://theveeword.blogspot.com/2012/04/yesterday-i-missed-being-fat.html)
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Post by: Magic Microbe on May 28, 2012, 08:00:23 PM
interesting! i do not like lime that much though.... have you tried broiling or grilling a grapefruit? YUM!!

here is an awesome blog post i found via pinterest about how this woman, in her weight loss journey, momentarily wishes to be fat again. i think you will all enjoy this read :) http://theveeword.blogspot.com/2012/04/yesterday-i-missed-being-fat.html (http://theveeword.blogspot.com/2012/04/yesterday-i-missed-being-fat.html)

I totally identify with that. Nothing fits me now just as noting fit me when I was fat but I have higher expectations now.
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Post by: debbatx on May 28, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
Bolloxd, LOL! Yeah, DH is a big baby when he's sick. I felt like crap yesterday but I still made the grocery list and went to the store with DH and Reid. They went to the park for an HOUR in the afternoon. That was it. And Reid came back with the worst diaper rash ever, because DH didn't take any diapers with him, so when Reid pooped, they just... kept playing.  :mad2: Other than that, they watched car racing all effing day.

So today, when DH moans and whines and carries on as soon as Reid wakes up, I drag out of bed, make coffee, get breakfast going for Reid, flip on Sesame Street, let him watch Chuggington on my computer, and then take him to the park for two hours. We come back for lunch and nap. After nap, I told DH I was taking a shower and to just keep Reid from killing himself. I get out and start getting dressed and I can hear DH yelling at Reid. Dude, he's 2 and a half, just woke up, and is RARING to go. Shut up, DH. So I get Reid dressed and take him to the mall. We spent a few hours at the bouncy house place (inspired by Bolloxd - THANK YOU!), ride the train through the mall, get me some new makeup (Reid got to hold the lady's makeup brushes), and then go to dinner.

DH had the gall to whine about giving Reid a bath. I seriously wondered how many activity points I'd get for kicking his ass. He did make up for it by telling me how grateful he was, but dude. I'm sick? Y'all hang out and watch TV and keep me awake. He gets sick? I bust my ass, even though I'm still getting over being sick, too.

DH is getting direct orders next time.

And the apple pie I had for dessert tonight was worth every damn point.
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Post by: merigayle on May 29, 2012, 07:50:29 AM
Debba- story of my life......  :grr:

this is the crock pot oats recipe i made, i think next time, it goes on for 6 hours, not overnight and i forgot to spray the bottom. Anywho, it says 7 servings, it was one cup of oats, to me, that is 4 servings. i would not be able to get 7 servings from 1 cup of steel cut oats! i also only used 1 can of lite coconut milk and one can of water and no butter. http://www.theyummylife.com/Slow_Cooker_Banana_Coconut_Milk_Oatmeal (http://www.theyummylife.com/Slow_Cooker_Banana_Coconut_Milk_Oatmeal)
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Post by: debbatx on May 29, 2012, 09:06:45 AM
Thanks, meri! And yeah, sorry about the whining, I was just pissed as hell at DH. He's still whining as of this morning, even though he's fine. If he's still at it when I get home tonight...
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Post by: merigayle on May 29, 2012, 10:34:46 AM
DH gets sick (like a run of the mill cold) and will easily miss a week of work. I have never missed work for illness in my life, once for a death in the family and then when i had DD, otherwise, never.
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Post by: debbatx on May 29, 2012, 10:37:19 AM
Yeah, I think DH would have stayed home today if he thought he could get away with it. I'd have laughed at him. There's no effing way he is or was that sick. No. Way.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 29, 2012, 10:46:27 AM
yep. DH has stayed home because he was tired because he did not sleep great. WTF? i can get 1-2 hours of sleep, be up with DD all night and still drag my ass to work!!!!!  :grr: that is the difference of women vs men.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on May 29, 2012, 11:18:35 AM
In case you're looking for a very healthy treat, I found that squeezing a lime over fresh canteloupe takes the taste through the roof. Canteloupe is good. Canteloupe drizzled with lime juice is amazing. I use 1 lime per 1/4 canteloupe and eat it with a spoon to make sure I get plenty of lime with each bite. As a bonus, both fruits are incredibly cheap right now.

I will have to try this. I'm not a big fan of cantelope (mostly because we don't get great ones up here).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 29, 2012, 11:45:37 AM
yep. DH has stayed home because he was tired because he did not sleep great. WTF? i can get 1-2 hours of sleep, be up with DD all night and still drag my ass to work!!!!!  :grr: that is the difference of women vs men.

I'd kick butt if he tried that. Good Lord.

Scale was up a little this morning, but I'm not totally surprised. We haven't exactly been eating well, what with the plague running through the house.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 29, 2012, 10:15:33 PM
The bouncy house place is great for them to burn energy, glad Reid had fun! 

I've talked to DH about how when he gets sick it is always worse than what I had... I think there are some studies that shows men really just can't handle it as well.  It still pisses me off but I just constantly remind him I had the same illness, and *may* enjoy telling him what crappy symptom he'll be experiencing next.   :>D:

I'm glad DH has been running with me lately, that has been nice.   I did 4 miles today while he did 3.5....hot & humid (2pm during nap time - literally only loops around the house).  Then a cool down in the pool.  Eating has been varied.  Homemade strawberry ice cream was good but not so healthy.

I'm interested in trying the lime with canteloupe! It sounds tasty.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 29, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
I wish I could get DH to run, but he's just not there yet. Oh well. I'll be hot and he... won't.

And OMG, that bouncy house place was the best $7.50 I've ever spent.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 30, 2012, 05:46:35 AM
DD is hit or miss with the moon bounce place. definitely no if there are other kids there  :eyeroll:

my weight is still up, period mostly finished, 4 lbs. wtf. i am exercising really well, eating really well. 47 days until BW, not looking good to weigh less than last year and i am still traumatized by last years weigh in :(
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Post by: diablita on May 30, 2012, 07:41:40 AM
meri, it's just so amazing that you're there. please don't be so hard on yourself.  :bouquet:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 30, 2012, 08:10:48 AM
There is just so  much media coverage, it is so hard to not be so self conscious. my crew made a joke to me recently that last year they were the "morbidly obese" crew cause everyone out there is so stinkin skinny and fit. It is crazy, but i have a job and a kid, so i try to keep it in perspective, but sheesh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 30, 2012, 09:47:50 AM
Meri, you're amazing for being capable of doing Badwater. I can't even run 3 miles straight right now. I'm in awe of you.

And yeah, Reid wouldn't go in any of the bounce houses that had other kids in them - he wanted/needed them all to himself. In his defense, there were a lot of insane bigger kids there, so I kind of don't blame him.
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Post by: debbatx on May 30, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
And I've relapsed with the virus. Awesome.
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Post by: Bolloxd on May 30, 2012, 09:26:55 PM
Debba that sucks.  Take it easy so you can recover fully!

D & R prefer the bouncy castle place to themselves, too, so we try to get there the minute it opens...at least it is less crowded then.  Especially during the week.

Meri I know the weigh in is bugging you.  No matter what the scale says you truly are amazing and inspirational to be able to run that many miles.  You are part of an elite group of people - truly outstanding and healthier than a large portion of the population.  I hope you take pride & comfort in that knowledge.  :hug:


Today I went bathing suit shopping.  I ended up getting 3 full bathing suits that I can mix/match into 8 different looks, and I feel fairly happy in them!  We got into the pool with the kids today for about 45 minutes and they loved it.  I ran in circles in the pool for them to 'swim'.  A good workout. 

Planning for an early am run and then going to the toddler gym tomorrow - assuming we all sleep well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 31, 2012, 07:19:29 AM
Thanks, Bolloxd. I feel better this morning, but I'm staying home from work today so I can just rest and take it easy. As good news, the scale hit a new low for me this morning!

That's awesome about the bathing suits. I have one, and it's very much an overweight-mom-suit. It's pretty enough, I guess, but... eh. Maybe I'll try to hunt one down later this summer before we go on vacation. We'll see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 31, 2012, 07:49:39 AM
good job on the scale, debba, hope you feel better soon!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 31, 2012, 09:44:15 AM
btw, thanks for all the kind words, but i know how much better and easier it is to run at 15lbs lighter. And I was a lot happier at that weight. I felt confident, sexy, all my clothes fit, i could wear whatever i wanted and look good, and i never got upset at pics of myself. sigh. sorry about the rant.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 31, 2012, 12:06:14 PM
ugh, i do not think DH is getting that job offer. 2 interviews, guy calls him Tues afternoon says he is going to check references and give him an offer next day (yesterday). well, DH put an old employer of his down that i thought was a questionable reference, he did not agree with me because he worked for him for 6 years, but i said, the last 2 months he worked for him, DH had a midlife crisis and was a horrific employee. DH thought the guy would see past it, they have talked about it since it occurred, etc. Water under the bridge he said. Well, no job offer and former employer not returning his calls :( I feel really bad for him, but i was like, wtf were you thinking putting that guy's name down? sigh. now i am even more cranky and stressed than before. I gotta get on the Tm and do my second run, but i am fading fast, LOL. Just had tea and a small piece of toast. I am STARVING and fruit just won't cut it, already had my yogurt.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 31, 2012, 03:01:10 PM
Oh, hell, meri. I hope it works out and maybe the potential new boss is just sidetracked.  :fingers: :fingers: :fingers:

I hopped on the scale, decided that number wouldn't work for me, and went out and bought more Sprite and a pint of ice cream. I'm the only person I know who could possibly gain weight while dealing with a stomach virus. Ice cream was seriously the only thing that sounded good, though. We'll see how it all turns out tomorrow, I guess.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 31, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
ok, DH got a call that he is waiting to hear back from the third reference which means the questionable one gave him a good rec!  :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on May 31, 2012, 06:07:13 PM
 :fingers:
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Post by: merigayle on May 31, 2012, 06:17:20 PM
:fingers:
especially since i maxed out my dental benefits yesterday and want new ones :D :D :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on May 31, 2012, 07:11:53 PM
Yay!!!

In other news, I kid y'all not, the DOG threw up today. I give up.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 31, 2012, 07:36:46 PM
Glad things are looking up for you meri!

Debba, sometimes you just have to laugh or you'll end up crying.   :buttpat:

Early am run with DH & the dog - 3.1 miles.  DH wants to stick with that mileage until he feels comfortable... which is great, but I need to remember I can keep going and don't have to stick to his mileage.  Toddler gym was fun, plenty of running/jumping/bouncing... they both love it so much.  A bonus is they always nap early too - like at 12:30 today when most of the time they fight a nap until 2:00.  PLUS they slept till 4:00, so I got a nap in myself plus tons of cooking done today. 

Jumped into the pool again briefly this evening.  Partially because the kids wanted to and partially because I'm testing out my new suits.  It appears one of them will need to be for home purposes since the top is very easily yanked by kids to become a public indecency violation. 

Steak & salad for dinner...and pavlova.  I'm addicted to it, and David had a tantrum yesterday because I didn't have any made...so he loves it too!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 31, 2012, 07:44:56 PM
Yay!!!

In other news, I kid y'all not, the DOG threw up today. I give up.
OMG!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on May 31, 2012, 09:04:09 PM
Wait, wait, wait....does that mean Reid has been kissing the dog?  :sneaking:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 01, 2012, 10:54:47 AM
God, I hope he hasn't been kissing the dog!

How do you manage to run with your DH with the kids? Do y'all just leave them there? No judging, genuinely curious about how that works.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on June 01, 2012, 11:14:05 AM
WTF.. this morning I had my trainer, then ran 5 miles, then did the elliptical for about 25 min and then was up 4 lbs?  WTF!!!  I even changed the battery on my scale thinking it was wrong because the battery was dying.. but no..  and this was after my trainer asked me if I had lost more weight because she thought I looked like I did.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 01, 2012, 01:28:28 PM
Frick...I am sick. Just when I was starting to up my weekend runs past piddly status to piddly long run status I get friggin sick. Gah!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 01, 2012, 01:30:06 PM
God, I hope he hasn't been kissing the dog!

How do you manage to run with your DH with the kids? Do y'all just leave them there? No judging, genuinely curious about how that works.
were you asking me or Bolloxd? I run at 5am and then the other run is either between work and picking up DD or with a jogging stroller.


MoS-- story of my fucking life, i feel your pain.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 01, 2012, 01:45:41 PM
Debba, we are lucky to live in an area with lots of vacant land... we have 13 acres which backs onto my parents' property of 70ish acres, and on the other side of our house is 30 empty acres and a further 50 acres - all empty (or family), fields, wooded, with trails & hills, and/or next to the river.  Our driveway, down & back, is .6 of a mile...we do loops of the properties and run back thru the house to check on them regularly.  And during nap time runs, I wait until I know they have both fallen asleep before going out rather than just putting them to bed & running.   They are solid sleepers, once they actually go to sleep.  If we lived anywhere else there is no way I could do it.

MoS, muscle weight perhaps?

MM, sorry you've got the crud.  Hope you feel better asap.


Not much going on exercise-wise this morning.  We ended up going to my Aunt's house so DH could work on her computer.  The kids had fun & played with her dogs, plus we spent this morning blowing bubbles on the deck.  Rachel had the worst diaper rash ever this morning.  She's had bad runny poo the last day or so and we've stayed on top of it, but it has to have been something she ate....poor girl has blisters in very painful places! Seems to be getting slightly better since running around diaper free.

We may be going to watch a friend run a half marathon tomorrow, still no definite plans.  I don't mind being there & supportive but I will be super jealous not being able to join in.  Oh well, I'm hoping to do my own long run on Sunday by myself. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 01, 2012, 01:51:08 PM
Bolloxd - ahhh, gotcha. Yeah, that wouldn't work for us. :) That's awesome, though!

Meri, I'm just flat-out in awe of you and how you manage to make sure you get your training done.

I'm finally feeling better from the stomach bug. Plan is to get back to running on Monday. MM, get some rest and feel better soon!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 01, 2012, 04:14:28 PM
i am always here for wake up calls :D though i am trying to phase out some of the 5am runs for jogging stroller 7am runs :D

i did a miracle. we went to the market and they had free samples of cake with FROSTING and i passed by it and the baker was trying to get me to eat one!!!!! i just walked away.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 01, 2012, 04:47:53 PM
I ate some crap for lunch, but eh, whatever. Back on the wagon tonight with dinner.

I am SO tired right now. I seriously want today to be over so I can go get Reid, eat, put him to bed, and crash myself.  :sleep:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 01, 2012, 07:36:28 PM
Talked DH into a date tomorrow and he chose mexican. They have a veggie and tofu fajita and i was thinking get that and just eat it w no bread or cheese or sour cream etc
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 01, 2012, 11:17:33 PM
Wow. I could never ever walk away from free cake.

 :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on June 02, 2012, 06:27:17 AM
Ugh.. the scale is up again.  There is no way I could have gained 5 lbs in 3 days.. that would be a humongous amount of calories.  I am sore today from my session with the trainer so I googled and found this:
An intense workout, especially one with weight-lifting, can cause the body to retain water because water is attending to those muscles that are working overtime. Strengthening muscles or muscles that have been pulled or torn are areas where water travels to in order to heal.

Strength training causes microscopic tears in your muscle fibers. When these tears heal, the body rebuilds the muscles stronger than before. After a tough workout, blood rushes to the affected muscles to provide the nutrients that they need for recovery and to clear lactic acid and other cellular waste. The extra fluid causes muscles to become inflamed.

Post-workout swelling usually begins almost immediately after a workout and can last three to seven days


Hopefully this is all it is.. I'm thinking maybe I need to buy a new scale but I'll wait a few more days and see!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 02, 2012, 06:52:01 AM
yeah i am up for a couple days following a race or a long long run.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 02, 2012, 08:30:10 AM
I give up. The scale was down like 3 pounds from my starting point on Thursday, when I was sick. Today? Up 2 from my start point. There's no way I've eaten that much food in a day. WTF.  >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 02, 2012, 08:39:48 AM
know what that is?  fucking annoying, that's what  :hug:


So after a month of hard core dieting I was down 9 pounds.  Nearly my goal.  Swimsuit and cover-up came yesterday, tried them on, look great.  How often does that happen???  So of course this morning I wake up with an upset stomach, it's puffed out and I don't feel great.  :(  I took a Pepto and am hoping it'll get better before DD's pool party at noon. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 02, 2012, 08:42:02 AM
know what that is?  fucking annoying, that's what  :hug:


So after a month of hard core dieting I was down 9 pounds.  Nearly my goal.  Swimsuit and cover-up came yesterday, tried them on, look great.  How often does that happen???  So of course this morning I wake up with an upset stomach, it's puffed out and I don't feel great.  :(  I took a Pepto and am hoping it'll get better before DD's pool party at noon.
story of my life. first day at the pool i was super bloated with my period, argh!

Debba, again, story of my life.

My weight is finally back to where it was 2 weeks ago. I am hoping with no bday party this month (not like 2 pieces of cake gave me 6lbs, but whatever) and hardcore training, i can be down at least 5-7 lbs by Badwater.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 02, 2012, 08:46:00 AM
crap, just found some really bad reviews for the place we have reservations at tonight :( just emailed DH to see what he wants to do.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on June 02, 2012, 11:21:54 AM
crap, just found some really bad reviews for the place we have reservations at tonight :( just emailed DH to see what he wants to do.
Where were you going?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 02, 2012, 12:03:33 PM
Where were you going?
patient lives in w chester and said it was good. mas mexicali cantina or something
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 02, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
Mmm, free cake.  Nice will power there Meri!

We did story time at the book store with the kids this morning.  Once we got home they said they were ready for a nap, except now I can hear them giggling & playing with each other, jumping in their beds.  Not napping but happy.  Guess I'll give them a bit longer and then get them back up.  I think we'll go on a walk/hike this afternoon at the State Park to see if they will walk or want to be carried.

Food has been good so far today, oatmeal & berries.  BBQ is in the crockpot for later.  Planning for a long run tomorrow and looking forward to it....even after more discussions with DH being concerned I'm taking the running too serious.  Blah.  He'll get over it.

My house seems to be a disaster area for the majority of the time lately and it drives me insane.  Yet, I would much rather do other things than clean something that will need to be immediately cleaned again within 20 minutes.   :eyeroll:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 02, 2012, 01:20:30 PM
cleaning up is just a waste of time, DD messes it up as i clean it. argh!

i had a whole conversation about cake in my head "well, it is just a little piece, cannot be toooooooo bad...." "i have been good all week, maybe just a bite....." but i had to show myself i was strong!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 02, 2012, 04:23:53 PM
never mind. not going out to eat. long story.  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 02, 2012, 06:27:45 PM
oh no, meri.  what happened?

So DD's birthday party was a huge success, lots of fun.  And I didn't touch the cake, either  I ate a few raw veggies and one slice of pizza and that's it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on June 02, 2012, 06:29:04 PM
hi.
i don't participate in this thread, as a general rule...  but i know a lot of you were talking about flattering swimsuits some time back.  i bought this suit, today:

(http://www.zappos.com/images/z/1/7/8/5/7/3/1785736-p-MULTIVIEW.jpg)

badgley mischka...  it is incredibly comfortable, and very flattering.  just fyi.

it's fairly pricey, but it is made in the usa - if that's an issue for you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on June 02, 2012, 06:44:20 PM
hi.
i don't participate in this thread, as a general rule...  but i know a lot of you were talking about flattering swimsuits some time back.  i bought this suit, today:

(http://www.zappos.com/images/z/1/7/8/5/7/3/1785736-p-MULTIVIEW.jpg)

badgley mischka...  it is incredibly comfortable, and very flattering.  just fyi.

it's fairly pricey, but it is made in the usa - if that's an issue for you.

It's gorgeous!  It looks very expensive!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 02, 2012, 08:21:03 PM
Witchy, I just got the coverup dress from Nordstrom with the exact same cut on top.  Wore it to DD's b-day party for the first time today and it was fab.  It was half price and now sold out at Nordy's but maybe someone else has it?  Putting DD to bed.  Be back in a bit...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 02, 2012, 08:29:32 PM
oh no, meri.  what happened?

So DD's birthday party was a huge success, lots of fun.  And I didn't touch the cake, either  I ate a few raw veggies and one slice of pizza and that's it.
glad the party was a success and wtg avoiding cake!

DH and I got in a big fight, it was really stupid and i think he lost his marbles. I took DD out to the vegan restaurant and I tried to eat the healthiest options there- brown rice sushi and steamed veggies and stirfried veggies and a teeny piece of cake and a bowl of fruit. Hopefully DH comes to his senses, it was ridiculous and he was irate about something stupid. sigh. and my closest girlfriend is out of town :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 02, 2012, 08:43:43 PM
aw, huge hugs meri.  you get mega extra points for eating so carefully after a fight.


Witchy, here's the dress:
http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/badgley-mischka-wide-strap-cover-up-dress/3238245?origin=stylenumsearch (http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/badgley-mischka-wide-strap-cover-up-dress/3238245?origin=stylenumsearch)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 03, 2012, 05:51:10 AM
not sure how the day will unfold, but i am down a pound, the morning after CHINESE FOOD  :yikes: unbelievable! wahoooo! I guess i did choose wisely :) not sure i can get my long run in, hoping to get an hour on the TM before DD wakes up, then 7 miles with the jogger and then maybe a nap time run to get me as close to my planned 20-30 miles as possible (closer to that 20 i mean, was hoping for 30 miles before the big blow up yesterday at home)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 03, 2012, 08:10:56 AM
Diablita, glad the pool party went well.  I bet J had a blast.
Debba, I just read the dress thread & saw your pic.  You are beautiful!
Meri, sorry about the fight.  Ugh.  Well done for making good choices though.  And down on the scale is awesome!

So DH & I ran 1.5 of trails behind the house that kicked butt.  DH stopped and I kept going to get 5 miles.  Pretty disappointed since I was hoping for at least 10.  Just not feeling it though.  I may try more later during nap time.  Hoping to spend the day outside since the weather will be great.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 03, 2012, 03:57:50 PM
Bolloxd- some days you just don't feel like going the distance. 5 is nothing to be upset about though!

I got back on the TM for 5 more miles, 17 total for the day, was hoping for 20-30 for the day, but you know, plans got changed. DH has been in the bedroom with the door closed all day. It is truly lovely  :eyeroll: :argh: DD and I have had a really nice day. We did our 7 miles in the stroller, went to the playground, food shopping, at lunch on the deck, now she is napping, then we will go to the neighbor's pool, dinner, and creamery :) (if it is not raining).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 03, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
Bolloxd -  :-[ and thanks! Also, you're awesome! Right now, 5 miles wouldn't happen for me.

The wedding last night was awesome. I ate fairly well, considering, but wine is a lot of points. :) I also wrenched the heck out of my ankle - there was a wet patch on the floor and I skidded and rolled my right ankle. It's sore and swollen this morning, but not too bad. I should be able to run tomorrow. :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 04, 2012, 02:05:07 PM
Humph. Slept in this morning - I was all set to get up when my alarm went off, and then I flexed my foot and that ankle I twisted was like, "HAH! No you don't, crazy lady!"

It's less sore today, but still just a little too sore for a run.  >:(

I wish I had the guts to go to the gym and use the pool in the mornings, but I just don't.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 04, 2012, 02:38:25 PM
Still sick. Stayed home sick from work today and hopefully I can kick it.

It is also cold and rainy today. So odd...I think mother nature is confused and doesnt realize that it doesnt rain here this time of year.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 04, 2012, 03:26:41 PM
my goddamn temporary crown fell off and i bit it in half this morning. luckily i did not break another tooth in the process. dentist 7am tomorrow. Atleast it makes me not really want to eat much.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 04, 2012, 04:33:26 PM
Damn girls, there has got to be good news for you all soon.  I found three 4-leaf clovers and one 6-leaf clover this morning so I'll share any spare luck with y'all.

I'm happy with today's run, 6.1 miles on the treadmill.  Going to color my hair this evening if I get time....either blue or pink. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 04, 2012, 04:45:03 PM
Good job, Bolloxd!

I guess my good news is that I'm getting acupuncture again today. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 04, 2012, 08:09:04 PM
yeah for hair color and acupuncture  :preen:

went to DH's therapy tonight and i really like his therapist. hope it helps.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 04, 2012, 09:01:09 PM
I hope it helps, too, Meri - good luck!

I'm really loving the acupuncture. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 04, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
5 miserable miles on the TM tonight. I could tell that I am still sick because I had to keep stopping and walking. But 5 miles with walks interspersed is better than no miles at all.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 04, 2012, 10:28:14 PM
Debba, glad you like the acupuncture.  I did it to help with infertility, which it did nothing for, but it did help with back pain. 

Meri, I hope the therapy helps too.   :fingers:

MM, 5 miles is better than 0.  You are right!  Hope you feel better soon.

I ended up with pink hair this time.  Not nearly as subtle as the purple was, but that is what I wanted...enough of a pop to notice.  Maybe I can get a picture tomorrow in the sunlight.  The kids were a bit off today.  David was constantly complaining about his belly hurting & he didn't want to eat.  Rachel wanted to be held all day...which is sweet but my goodness holding/carrying a 30lb lump sure makes my arms & back hurt.  With all of that, I've not eaten well today. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 04, 2012, 10:32:47 PM
I want to see pink hair!

So the last day of eating not so well and no time for exercise is over.  My friend/colleague goes home tomorrow afternoon -- we'll probably go out for lunch tomorrow but at least I'll get a run in.  I wasn't too bad...I got my period so it was kind of nice to give in to the snacking urges at a time when they were worst and get past it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 04, 2012, 10:50:17 PM
I have no idea how or why the acupuncture is working, all I know is I've been off my Zyrtec for 10 days now and I feel fine, even with allergen counts being in the moderate to high range.

Plus, I get to doze for like 45 minutes. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 04, 2012, 11:08:13 PM
Bollox, do you do the dye yourself?  How does that work?  I'm jonesin'.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 05, 2012, 07:53:36 AM
i wanna see pink pictures :D

Debba- my girlfriend has been seeing me for allergies and she is off all her meds and doing amazing. When I got acupuncture regularly, i was off all my meds too, for years, and i used to take 2 pills, 1 nose spray, and an inhaler.

Just got back from getting my temporary crown fixed. sigh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 05, 2012, 09:20:48 AM
Meri, that's awesome. I'm really excited about being off the Zyrtec. I'm still using the Nasonex, because, well, I'm paranoid, but I'm hoping to wean off that soon. I've also noticed a huge energy increase since starting acupuncture. It's amazing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 05, 2012, 11:16:24 AM
hi.
i don't participate in this thread, as a general rule... 

How come?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 05, 2012, 11:17:57 AM
Just about to head out for lunch and errands but I did get some pink hair pics to post later.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 05, 2012, 12:56:42 PM
I've been pinning some healthy tasty summer stuff on my food board on pinterest lately...  I'll have to try some of them out now, and let y'all know how they are.  They sure look tasty in the pictures. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 05, 2012, 01:11:56 PM
so many pins, so little time :D

i just finished my second run and i should really be walking out the door to work......... my neighbor is a bike mechanic for a professional bike team and wanted to show me how they mount pro bikes, did not want to tell him i have no interest in biking, but he is so super nice :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 05, 2012, 04:43:35 PM
Well, I just got back from a great lunch with Lizard Mixture followed by a walk along the Greenway and a massage.  Feeling pretty good today....it must have been the hair because I got asked for ID when I ordered some wine!  Seriously, what 32 year old would have pink hair?  I did give her a nice tip.   8)

As for the hair - Courtney, I had it done professionally the first time but decided to try it myself this time because I've always colored my hair (with DH's help).  I went by what I had done at the salon previously... I re-bleached the hair a little harsher than the stylist did and then put the pink onto it.  Time consuming and messy but I like the results.  The pink stains *everything* though.   

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Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 05, 2012, 05:07:42 PM
love it!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 05, 2012, 05:13:07 PM
OMG!!!  I love that.  Can you buy pink dye at the drug store?  Does it come with the bleach stuff and instructions?

Do you bleach it first so it will take the color? 

Dear lord, how I need bright purple in my hair right.this.instant.  I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED. 

Speaking of food...  I'm not a giant yogurt fan.  But I found some yoplait light that I like.  Raspberry Lemonade.  It's oddly delicious! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 05, 2012, 05:31:24 PM
Looks great, Bolloxd!

I binged at lunch. *sigh*

Oh well. Back on the wagon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 05, 2012, 06:13:43 PM
Looks great, Bolloxd!

I binged at lunch. *sigh*

Oh well. Back on the wagon.

Do you know what brought on the binge?   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 05, 2012, 06:33:11 PM
Looks great, Bolloxd!

I binged at lunch. *sigh*

Oh well. Back on the wagon.
:hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 05, 2012, 06:44:41 PM
Hee, thanks everyone.

Courtney, I bought very light blonde hair color and just used that on the lower portion.  Afterwards I used the pink dye.  I got mine from Amazon because it had so many good reviews.  I loved the purple in my hair the first time but it did not last long at all (by 3 weeks it was virtually gone)....that may have been because of the brand (Scrupples) that was used or the color, not sure.  The color this time is Special Effects - Atomic Pink and I have Fish Bowl Blue to use next time. 


Debba,  :hug:  at least you recognize it and are willing to get back on that wagon. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 05, 2012, 07:43:15 PM


Speaking of food...  I'm not a giant yogurt fan.  But I found some yoplait light that I like.  Raspberry Lemonade.  It's oddly delicious! 

  :-\ Does that have aspartame in it?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 05, 2012, 09:02:32 PM
I once tried to get my hairdresser to put purple highlights in my hair and she basically implied that I was too square to pull it off. :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 05, 2012, 09:35:34 PM
Do people still say "square?" I think if she's saying "square" she may not be the best judge.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 05, 2012, 09:48:12 PM
Speaking of food...  I'm not a giant yogurt fan.  But I found some yoplait light that I like.  Raspberry Lemonade.  It's oddly delicious! 

I love the Chobani Champions Very Berry and Honey-nana. Yeah, it's "kid" yogurt. But it's damn yummy.

Do you know what brought on the binge?   :hug: :hug:

Sheer stupidity? Not really, no. I went to get cash out from the ATM at lunch so I could pay my trainer tonight, and drove past a gas station and thought, "Hey, a Coke sounds good." And I walked out with a bag full of crap and ate all of it.  :-\ I really can't pinpoint a reason, which is almost more frustrating than anything.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on June 05, 2012, 10:54:23 PM
My gripe with Chobani Champions is that, ounce by ounce, it's like 3 times more expensive than regular Chobani.  And regular Chobani isn't cheap to begin with.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 05, 2012, 10:59:44 PM
True. But I use it as a morning snack, and it's actually pretty damn filling, so I'm still pretty pleased with it. I feel like I'm getting my money's worth. I don't always feel like that with Yoplait.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 05, 2012, 11:04:51 PM
Do people still say "square?" I think if she's saying "square" she may not be the best judge.  :D

No she didnt say that...I was paraphrasing. She kind of hesitated and then said I don't think it would be a good idea for you.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 05, 2012, 11:08:34 PM
True. But I use it as a morning snack, and it's actually pretty damn filling, so I'm still pretty pleased with it. I feel like I'm getting my money's worth. I don't always feel like that with Yoplait.

YES!! I feel like if it has a big chunk of protein that will sustain me and make me NOT CRANKY, I don't have a problem paying extra for that. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 06, 2012, 07:06:16 AM
  :-\ Does that have aspartame in it?

Probably...  I can look later to see. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 06, 2012, 07:14:04 AM
chobani is $1/container here, that is not bad, especially when my coconut yogurt is twice that  :eyeroll:

i believe most commercial regular yogurts have HFCS and/or aspartame in them. And food coloring.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 06, 2012, 07:38:12 AM
chobani is $1/container here, that is not bad, especially when my coconut yogurt is twice that  :eyeroll:

i believe most commercial regular yogurts have HFCS and/or aspartame in them. And food coloring.

I was interested in the coconut yogurt until I saw the price at the supermarket...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 06, 2012, 08:54:21 AM
I was interested in the coconut yogurt until I saw the price at the supermarket...
yep. sale is $1.99  :grr: we can get some soy yogurts for $1 on sale.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on June 06, 2012, 11:10:46 AM
I'm on day five of an eight day vacation so my Healthy Living is taking a bit of a backseat.  I'm trying not to go crazy, but still enjoying seafood and an occasional drink or three.  Instead of worrying about what I'm eating, I'm concentrating on smaller portions, but I usually do that anyway.  Also, I have not done any exercise despite bring my clothes.  Oh well, I don't think I will have any trouble jumping right back on the wagon when I get home this weekend as I was happy with the results I was seeing.  The biggest bummer is it is raining here at the beach and the temp is low so I haven't even been able to enjoy my weight loss in the swim suit I bought for this occasion.   >:(    It has to be really hot before I like getting in the ocean.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 06, 2012, 02:56:36 PM
i believe most commercial regular yogurts have HFCS and/or aspartame in them. And food coloring.

Doesn't have to be. There are several even in my regular grocery store where this isn't the case. You just have to read the lable (also, watch out for gelatin).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 06, 2012, 04:04:00 PM
Doesn't have to be. There are several even in my regular grocery store where this isn't the case. You just have to read the lable (also, watch out for gelatin).
all the non greek yogurt ones i have looked at were (yoplait, dannon, etc), but it has been a long time since i have looked, so things may have changed!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 06, 2012, 04:09:14 PM
Nope, not new. I grew up eating Brown Cow, Nancy's, and mountain high. But, I agree- dannon, yoplait, and that ilk are full of crap. I don't buy those brands. I wonder if this is a regional thing?

Now a days, there are a lot, lot, lot more options. You just have to read lables and stay away from the big coroprate ones.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 06, 2012, 04:23:40 PM
Nope, not new. I grew up eating Brown Cow, Nancy's, and mountain high. But, I agree- dannon, yoplait, and that ilk are full of crap. I don't buy those brands. I wonder if this is a regional thing?

Now a days, there are a lot, lot, lot more options. You just have to read lables and stay away from the big coroprate ones.
those are the "organic" or "natural" ones in the fancy separate cooler in a whole different area of the market. I was talking about the ones in the dairy section at our store, which are all blech. And once i bought DD the Stoneyfield toddler yogurt and it had FISH in it, for DHA  :eyeroll: >:( :eyeroll:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 06, 2012, 04:35:15 PM
my eating has been really good, but today, just ok. I have been running about 10 miles a day and definitely not eating enough and was just HUNGRY this afternoon and had a piece of bread and butter and a little bowl of left over pasta from DH's lunch. still not too bad for the day since i had miso soup and fruit for lunch. I have a new recipe to try for dinner, a roasted eggplant lentil curry.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 06, 2012, 04:36:46 PM
those are the "organic" or "natural" ones in the fancy separate cooler in a whole different area of the market. I was talking about the ones in the dairy section at our store, which are all blech. And once i bought DD the Stoneyfield toddler yogurt and it had FISH in it, for DHA  :eyeroll: >:( :eyeroll:

Ahhh, ok. I see what you mean. I still consider those 'commercial' yogurts. I'm fortunate in that my grocer stocks them all together. They've basically eliminated the health food section and just put the foods on the shelf next to the regular stuff (peanut butter puffins are right next to the kix).

yeah, I was surprised to see fish in something recently too. Might have been yogurt but I think it was something else that is normally "safe".
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 06, 2012, 05:17:07 PM
Coyzmum, I hope it warms up enough for you to swim in the ocean!  Enjoy your vacation. :)


I've been trying to catch up on laundry today.  Boring.  We took the kids to the grocery store & Lowes, usually they sit out in the car with one of us be we all went in and they were very well behaved.  It's nice when they listen and hold our hands when asked.  We tried to go for a run/walk on the Greenway but they were not having it...too close to nap time and wanted to be carried the entire time. 

Once we got home & they napped DH & I did a 3.1 mile run.  I could have ran faster but he was struggling a bit so I eased off and coached him, and a little teasing.  A nice productive day today and it's time for the kids to get up from their nap.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 06, 2012, 08:51:55 PM
So...  I saw my doc today for blood work, because I am concerned my thyroid may be goofy.  I have a number of symptoms, but the tests came back fine.  I talked to her about my frustration with my weight, and how I just feel like the 25 lbs I've gained in the last 2 years doesn't seem right.  And how even after I switched jobs, reduced stress, increased my activity quite a bit, and have gotten a mostly hold on some of my behaviors, I haven't lost any weight, and it is so maddening. 

She asked me about trying a weight loss drug (a diabetes drug, glucophage, I think) and I'm really not on board with it.  Then she suggested trying gluten free, based on a number of things.  Sigh... 

Sometimes it feels hopeless. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 06, 2012, 08:56:29 PM
Oh, Courtney, that sucks. I've wondered if my thyroid was off, too, but my blood work always comes back just fine.  :sigh: Is there anything we can do to help?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 06, 2012, 09:01:41 PM
So...  I saw my doc today for blood work, because I am concerned my thyroid may be goofy.  I have a number of symptoms, but the tests came back fine.  I talked to her about my frustration with my weight, and how I just feel like the 25 lbs I've gained in the last 2 years doesn't seem right.  And how even after I switched jobs, reduced stress, increased my activity quite a bit, and have gotten a mostly hold on some of my behaviors, I haven't lost any weight, and it is so maddening. 
 

I have felt the same way about thyroid but I continuously fall in the normal range. I have read some research that indicated that low testaterone levels in women could cause the same symptoms but nobody ever seems to check them. I need to ask my girlie Dr about this because I think it would help my sex drive also.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 06, 2012, 09:05:16 PM
The problem with low testosterone is that no one seems to know what a "normal" range should be. I had no sex drive (still don't, actually) and tried testosterone cream for a while, but it was a giant PITA to remember, so I just gave it up.

Courtney, what about acupuncture? I've gotten ridiculously good results for my allergies, and I know my acupuncturist offers help for weight loss, too. I've noticed an increase in energy since going, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on June 06, 2012, 09:07:53 PM
Bolloxd, yay!, it's always so much more fun to shop when the kids behave.  Mine are 6 and 4 and it is still a struggle sometimes.  Especially Lowe's, they get bored there quick.  I love that you and your husband have a sysytem to work out.  If I didn't have a gym at work, I'm not sure how I would fit it in.

Courtney, I'm sorry you are having a hard time.  Maybe the doctor will find something is off somewhere.  I can't quote specifics, but didn't someone here have to be tested a lot before their doctor finally figured out something just wasn't right.  And I think it was their thyroid which didn't show up at first?...  Sorry you are going through this.  So frustrating and I understand about not being on board with the drug.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 06, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
Cozy mum, it is bootsie who went thru that, which is one of the reasons I checked into it.  My doctor doesn't think it's anything to do with my thyroid, and she is probably right.   

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 06, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
Why did she suggest gluten-free? Just curious, you don't have to answer if you don't want to. I just know it's the "miracle cure" in weight loss right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 06, 2012, 10:35:41 PM
I'm not entirely sure...  But I have some digestive issues, and she said that she's seen it help some people. 

I'm not sure I really buy it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on June 06, 2012, 11:19:17 PM
I ran/walked 4 miles tonight.  Perfect running temps, mid-50's at dusk.  Felt pretty good. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 06, 2012, 11:21:42 PM
Woohoo!  That's perfect running weather.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 07, 2012, 06:50:48 AM
Got up at 5 and ran. The workout itself went great. Came home at 5:36 and Reid was screaming his head off. Apparently he'd been at it since 5:10. Dammit, that's exactly why I feel guilty about going. DH was like, "Yeah, he'd just calmed down some right before you came back." He wasn't mad or anything, but still. I feel awful. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 07, 2012, 07:18:06 AM
Courtney-- glucophage/metformin is pretty commonly prescribed. Personally, i would try it. When i was trying to figure things out, insulin resistance was something that came up as a possibility and it would have also explained my extreme hunger. It is also commonly used to treat PCOS symptoms. Are you on birth control of any kind? Since I have had the Mirena out, after not being able to lose any weight, I have so far lost about 6lbs. I am trying my hardest, but i was trying pretty darn hard before as well. Did your dr do all the insulin tests? How about thyroid antibodies?

Debba-- good job on getting out there! sorry i have stopped with the wake up calls, but if you still need some, let me know :) hoping DD wakes up soon so we can get in the stroller.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 07, 2012, 09:10:59 AM
Thanks, Meri! I might take you up on that, but I know you're not getting up as early, so feel free to tell me to shove it.

Apparently one of the dogs behind us started yapping, and that's what woke up Reid, but still. I felt SO guilty when I walked back in and heard him bellowing, "DADDY! I!! AWAKE!!! NOW!!!!!" It was pretty clear he'd been saying it for a while. DH swears he's not upset, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 07, 2012, 09:39:15 AM
Daddy's have different ears than mommys for sure  :eyeroll:

i am doing some 5am runs (yesterday and tomorrow) but trying to do more jogging stroller runs when i can. I am thinking for my 2 peak weeks of doing 5am + jogging stroller + prework run to get an extra 5 miles in 2xs a week. we shall see.

taking DD to the beach for the first time this weekend, was bummed that the only food choices seem to be italian/pizza, but then i remembered i am running 30 miles (god willingly) before we go, so it should be all good for pizza AND ice cream :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 07, 2012, 10:07:14 AM
Oh, DH heard him. You'd have had to be deaf to have missed it. He said he went in to check a few minutes after Reid woke up, and he seemed to calm down a little, so DH went back to bed, and Reid started yelling again. He'd apparently just calmed back down about 2 minutes before I walked in the door - which creaked when I opened it and I think got him going again.  :sigh:

DH was like, "I didn't know what to do!" Dude, seriously? Apparently he's forgotten all the sleep training work we did? WTF?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 07, 2012, 10:42:47 AM
Um how about getting up and tending to your child  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 07, 2012, 10:48:19 AM
Courtney-- glucophage/metformin is pretty commonly prescribed. Personally, i would try it. When i was trying to figure things out, insulin resistance was something that came up as a possibility and it would have also explained my extreme hunger. It is also commonly used to treat PCOS symptoms. Are you on birth control of any kind? Since I have had the Mirena out, after not being able to lose any weight, I have so far lost about 6lbs. I am trying my hardest, but i was trying pretty darn hard before as well. Did your dr do all the insulin tests? How about thyroid antibodies?

Debba-- good job on getting out there! sorry i have stopped with the wake up calls, but if you still need some, let me know :) hoping DD wakes up soon so we can get in the stroller.

I have the Mirena, and have for about 4 years now.  I successfully lost weight while it was in a couple years ago, so I don't think that is an issue for me. 

We did not do any insulin tests that I know of (just fasting glucose) and we tested TSH...  is that thyroid antibodies? 

Is it weird to go back to my doctor and suggest this stuff?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 07, 2012, 10:54:26 AM
I can look up all the tests I had done and report back. I had lost weight w the Morena four years ago but not this time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on June 07, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
Thanks, Meri! I might take you up on that, but I know you're not getting up as early, so feel free to tell me to shove it.

Apparently one of the dogs behind us started yapping, and that's what woke up Reid, but still. I felt SO guilty when I walked back in and heard him bellowing, "DADDY! I!! AWAKE!!! NOW!!!!!" It was pretty clear he'd been saying it for a while. DH swears he's not upset, though.

I don't understand why he would be upset.  Why are you in charge of getting him when he yells.  I would not feel guilty for being gone for 20 minutes of hollering.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 07, 2012, 11:14:29 AM
I'm not necessarily in charge of getting Reid when he yells - we're actually pretty good about splitting that responsibility. I'm a little frustrated with DH saying he didn't know what to do, because that just makes no sense. We've done this before. Wait a few minutes. Go in, pat him on the back, tell him to go back to sleep. Leave. Wait a few *more* minutes, slightly longer this time. Repeat. Jeez.

I just feel bad because it was 20 minutes of yelling at 5 AM, which is an ungodly hour to be awake if you don't want to be.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 07, 2012, 11:25:23 AM
I can look up all the tests I had done and report back. I had lost weight w the Morena four years ago but not this time.

That would be great :) 

I think I'm going to give the gluten free thing the old college try, too.  I've often wondered about it, since I have some tummy troubles anyway...  my mom can't eat whole wheat stuff, and she's always kind of battled with her weight as well.  I don't think I have celiac or anything, but maybe an intolerance/sensitivity?  Who knows, but an experiment of a couple weeks sure won't hurt me.  I may want to murder someone in that time, since all my favorite foods have gluten tho :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 07, 2012, 12:10:16 PM
1. Complete chemistry panel - general health check
2. A1C- average blood sugar over 2-3 months
3. Fasting insulin level - do not work out night before and make early appt
4. Fasting lipid profile- if you have not had done earlier, dyslipidemia associated with metabolic risk, trouble with weight
5. B12, ferritin, zinc, vitamin d- relate to metabolism and some high risk as vegetarian
6. Free T3 and free T4 along with tsh and thyroid antibodies- thyroid perioxidase and thyroglobulin that is to determine if hashimotos
7.  a saliva hormone test via health check USA for cortisol


ok, those were the tests i had done. this is just copy and paste from my email from her. I did not do the saliva test because it cannot be done while nursing and shortly therafter with the weaning.

I basically ruled EVERYTHING out before having the Mirena out, esp since I paid out of pocket 100% for it. And I like not getting a period ever.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 07, 2012, 12:14:22 PM
ok, i dont wanna, but am going to drag my sorry ass onto the TM for 5 more miles before work. roar!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 07, 2012, 01:39:50 PM
1. Complete chemistry panel - general health check
2. A1C- average blood sugar over 2-3 months
3. Fasting insulin level - do not work out night before and make early appt
4. Fasting lipid profile- if you have not had done earlier, dyslipidemia associated with metabolic risk, trouble with weight
5. B12, ferritin, zinc, vitamin d- relate to metabolism and some high risk as vegetarian
6. Free T3 and free T4 along with tsh and thyroid antibodies- thyroid perioxidase and thyroglobulin that is to determine if hashimotos
7.  a saliva hormone test via health check USA for cortisol


ok, those were the tests i had done. this is just copy and paste from my email from her. I did not do the saliva test because it cannot be done while nursing and shortly therafter with the weaning.

I basically ruled EVERYTHING out before having the Mirena out, esp since I paid out of pocket 100% for it. And I like not getting a period ever.



Thanks!  I may get back with my doctor to see if I can do this stuff... 

DH needs to get snipped anyway, and it's due to come out next spring, but I was planning to have another one in.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 07, 2012, 02:22:19 PM
i would get the blood tests and try the glucophage/metformin before removing the mirena if it were me. i was secretly hoping my dr would give me metformin :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 07, 2012, 03:55:18 PM
i would get the blood tests and try the glucophage/metformin before removing the mirena if it were me. i was secretly hoping my dr would give me metformin :D

:D  My friend was on it while she was pregnant, and she said it made her ravenously hungry!   :yikes: 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 07, 2012, 04:06:45 PM
:D  My friend was on it while she was pregnant, and she said it made her ravenously hungry!   :yikes:
you sure that just was not the pregnancy doing that? most women say it makes them nauseous.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 07, 2012, 04:31:46 PM
you sure that just was not the pregnancy doing that? most women say it makes them nauseous.

It's hard to say!  But her mom takes it for diabetes and it doesn't seem to make her hungry. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 07, 2012, 06:14:09 PM
most women i see in practice who take complain that it makes them nauseous so i wonder if that is what helps them lose weight :D ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 07, 2012, 06:43:50 PM
She said it's an appetite suppressant, which I honestly don't think is my problem.  I think I'm appropriately hungry, and that most of the time I eat a reasonable number of calories for me. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 07, 2012, 07:44:31 PM
She said it's an appetite suppressant, which I honestly don't think is my problem.  I think I'm appropriately hungry, and that most of the time I eat a reasonable number of calories for me.
my friend the RD explained that if you have an insulin issue, you have extra hunger because your body does not process things right and keeps craving for more food, though this is not appearing to be your problem. I can cut calories, but even when i do not cut calories, i am always famished, which is why i thought the insulin would be my issue, but nope, i just suck ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 07, 2012, 09:32:46 PM
Courtney I hope you are able to get your issues sorted out quickly.  :hug:


Been a very busy day today coupled with family drama....it must be that time of year again.  My granny was put into the hospital yesterday for what she thought was a heart attack but now they think it was something else.  Waiting on test results.  My little brother (LB1 from previous posts) found out his girlfriend was cheating on him - they just had a baby 3 months ago.  So he's been kicked out of the house and has gained another child support payment.  I feel crap about it because I was defending her odd behavior on post partum depression. 

DH spent the morning at the dentist then work so I had the kids to myself which most of the time is when I experiment with very messy projects.  We played with bubbles, a home-made water table, sidewalk chalk, play-doh, fingerpaints  :nono: and I had them help make their own toast w/butter & jelly.  We got them a trampoline since they love it at the toddler gym...spent a couple hours putting it together during nap time and once they were up they LOVED it.  Hours & hours of bouncing outside with a quick break for the pool to cool down, then a bite to eat, and right back on it.  My cheeks hurt from smiling so much with their happiness.

I'd say I got my fill of exercise today. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 07, 2012, 09:35:22 PM
 :heartbeat: Bolloxd

Jessica did great at school today and thankfully didn't open up her injury.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 07, 2012, 09:52:55 PM
Bolloxd, sounds like a great day with the kids! Sorry about the family drama, though.

diablita, I'm so glad to hear Jessica did great at school!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on June 07, 2012, 09:54:51 PM
Awww, Bolloxd, what a great day with the kids.

Sorry about your brother's stuff.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 07, 2012, 10:04:53 PM
Courtney I hope you are able to get your issues sorted out quickly.  :hug:


Been a very busy day today coupled with family drama....it must be that time of year again.  My granny was put into the hospital yesterday for what she thought was a heart attack but now they think it was something else.  Waiting on test results.  My little brother (LB1 from previous posts) found out his girlfriend was cheating on him - they just had a baby 3 months ago.  So he's been kicked out of the house and has gained another child support payment.  I feel crap about it because I was defending her odd behavior on post partum depression. 

DH spent the morning at the dentist then work so I had the kids to myself which most of the time is when I experiment with very messy projects.  We played with bubbles, a home-made water table, sidewalk chalk, play-doh, fingerpaints  :nono: and I had them help make their own toast w/butter & jelly.  We got them a trampoline since they love it at the toddler gym...spent a couple hours putting it together during nap time and once they were up they LOVED it.  Hours & hours of bouncing outside with a quick break for the pool to cool down, then a bite to eat, and right back on it.  My cheeks hurt from smiling so much with their happiness.

I'd say I got my fill of exercise today. 


He might want to make sure the baby is actually his.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 07, 2012, 10:21:29 PM
He might want to make sure the baby is actually his.

You ARE NOT the father!

Sorry to make light of this, but I wholeheartedly agree with MM. If she was cheating, there is a chance he was not the father even if he thinks the cheating happened later. I'vee seen enough Maury to know what drama cheaters are capable of.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 07, 2012, 11:11:05 PM
Oh, ya know that really makes sense...except the baby looks very much like him.  Of course, I dunno what the guy she cheated with looks like...apparently he's the recent ex of her best friend.  So she has her best friend pissed off at her and my brother.  The gf also had a rare disease as a child and thought she'd never have a baby, so the fact she even got pregnant at all is against a lot of odds.  It just seems odd that she'd cheat *so* quickly after giving birth.  My brother is no saint for sure, but she was the one who asked him to move in, get back together (they dated a few years ago), etc. 


At least it was a really great day with the kiddos. 

For Diablita-  We had a great day, what a super way, to spend some time together.   :D


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 08, 2012, 06:51:06 AM

For Diablita-  We had a great day, what a super way, to spend some time together.   :D

:D

Did you tell them about it?  We haven't b/c I don't want to hear 6 months' worth of "when are we going?"
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 08, 2012, 08:51:42 AM
i bailed on my 5am run due to not sleeping much last night, DD woke up and demanded to go in the BOB so i said, ok, NOW! and we ran super fast, so i got my AM run in and have another this afternoon. whew. up a few pounds, due to ovulate tomorrow, maybe that is it? i feel like i look like i lost weight, looked good in some sassy brooks capris.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 08, 2012, 12:51:13 PM
:D

Did you tell them about it?  We haven't b/c I don't want to hear 6 months' worth of "when are we going?"

We mentioned it when we first got the tickets but haven't said anything since.  We just make a big fuss when the show is on and get them to practice dancing.  Lol.

We've spent the morning at the mall letting the kids play in the toddler area.  I've got a run planned for later.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 08, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
I got contacts for the first time ever today. It is weird as I have only ever worn glasses. Hopefully this will help my runs as sometimes I get a little motion sick since I can't see well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 08, 2012, 03:40:31 PM
I got contacts for the first time ever today. It is weird as I have only ever worn glasses. Hopefully this will help my runs as sometimes I get a little motion sick since I can't see well.
you will have much better peripheral vision while running.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 08, 2012, 04:53:43 PM
There is no way I could run with glasses.   Enjoy your new vision MM!

Well I skipped my run because I played on the trampoline and worked up a sweat.   I have no idea how I spent hours on one as a kid.  I'll probably hop in the pool soon too.  Maybe an early run if I can get up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 08, 2012, 05:11:16 PM
i think i would vomit on the trampoline :D got my second run in and I am at about 40-45 miles from M-F  :banana: Hoping nothing gets in the way of my long run and this will be my highest non race mileage week since the summer of 2008 (right before i got pregnant).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 08, 2012, 07:34:21 PM
There is no way I could run with glasses.   Enjoy your new vision MM!

Well I skipped my run because I played on the trampoline and worked up a sweat.   I have no idea how I spent hours on one as a kid.  I'll probably hop in the pool soon too.  Maybe an early run if I can get up tomorrow.


I dont run in glasses. I run without being able to see well.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 08, 2012, 07:53:11 PM
I dont run in glasses. I run without being able to see well.  :D
i hate contacts and am cheap so i run with glasses.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 08, 2012, 07:54:30 PM
i hate contacts and am cheap so i run with glasses.

I can't. They don't stay on my face. Even my sport sunglasses won't. They will stay on while bike riding but not running.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 08, 2012, 07:59:18 PM
I can't. They don't stay on my face. Even my sport sunglasses won't. They will stay on while bike riding but not running.
i have a big nose, probably helps.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 08, 2012, 09:33:04 PM
I have to wear contacts because I'm so blind the change between my peripheral vision in glasses makes me stumble like an alcoholic.

Meri,  yay for getting in so many miles...wow.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 08, 2012, 11:07:34 PM
I have to wear contacts because I'm so blind the change between my peripheral vision in glasses makes me stumble like an alcoholic.

Meri,  yay for getting in so many miles...wow.



Yes, exactly.  I'm always nervous driving on glasses-wearing days.  I was *so* happy that I was able to keep my contacts in during the SMR.


Yay meri!  Nice work.
I'm supposed to run an 8K in the morning but am exhausted and don't feel like waking up at 6.  Instead I may take my DD out in the BOB in our neighborhood.  We have 2 crazy steep hills here so it'll make for a good workout.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 09, 2012, 07:07:48 AM
all those miles, all those calories counted and all that food not eaten, and i am up 4 pounds.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 09, 2012, 08:54:04 AM
Meri, I've noticed weight gains right around ovulation, too - I can't find anything on the web that supports my suspicion, but that would be my guess. That, and you're jacking up the miles, so could your body be holding on to every last drop of water it can to help repair your muscles?

I got up and ran this morning. Went pretty well, but it turns out I still need my inhaler if I'm going to try and run without walk breaks. Good to know!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 09, 2012, 08:57:56 AM
My weight goes up around ovulation, too.  I also noticed that before I took off a few pounds my weight swung more with cycle changes.  So this month I've been less bloated with my period and was less bloated at ovulation time.  Maybe the extra weight amps up the hormone production?

So I had an 8K trail race this morning but decided that getting to sleep more than 6 hours was more better.  :)  G-d bless my DH, I slept until 8!  I'm going to take Jessica and Eddie out in the neighborhood in a bit with the BOB. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jamers86 on June 09, 2012, 10:10:14 AM
I do so well until I'm caught off guard.

Like yesterday, I came home and DH had a bag of chocolates that he got as a gift from a student.

Once I slip, I slide.  Started eating everything in sight, probably 1200 calories.  Oops.

Oh well.  Intervals & weights today to try and turn last night's calories into tomorrow's muscles.

Adding 2 days to my "2 Weeks, 0 Excuses" to make up for the one I goofed.  If I make it til Saturday morning, I still get to shop.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on June 09, 2012, 10:42:10 AM
i hate contacts and am cheap so i run with glasses.

Really?!  All your long runs too?

I am blind so running without is not possible.  Once a couple years ago I lost a contact and was in DC (where I didn't live yet) so had to run with my glasses.  A couple miles in, once I started to sweat, my glasses refused to even partly stay on my face.  I tried everything and ended up taking the string from an old balloon and tying them to me so I could finish my run.

Do you use anything to keep them from falling off?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 09, 2012, 12:46:33 PM
just a big nose to hold them up. LOL. i wear glasses at all my races, etc. i have prescription sunglasses as well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 09, 2012, 06:29:41 PM
So we have been doing a shitty job of training but somehow managed to still do 9.5 miles today. Slow but lots of hills and it was actually fun.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 10, 2012, 09:47:16 PM
I am ashamed to say I skipped a run again today.   Blah.  Slept till 9:30 and had to wake the kids at 10:00!  So they didn't nap today either.  Eating has been poor....pancakes,  hotdogs,  pavlova. 

Start again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 11, 2012, 10:54:15 AM
Yeah, I skipped my run this morning, dammit. *sigh* Eating has been okay with the exception of dinner last night - Reid wasn't feeling good, so DH went to Chipotle and got burritos for me and him. I had the points to do it, and it's a better choice than anything else near our house, so... eh. It happens, you know?

I'd give my right arm for some chocolate right now, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 11, 2012, 11:11:51 AM
It was 3.5 weeks ago when I first met with Nancy Clark and started following her advice.  I went last Friday for a follow up and I feel really good.  I've lost about 2 pounds, which is right in line with her suggestion for me to aim to lose 0.5 lb/week.

Before, I was always afraid of following a plan because I didn't want to feel trapped or restricted.  But with Nancy, I actually feel freedom.  I know how many calories to aim for.  I have permission to eat a large breakfast and lunch, and a good late afternoon snack.  Dinner is on the small side, but since I haven't been hungry all day, it's fine and I don't want more dinner.   In the past I never would have let myself eat so much for lunch and afternoon snack but really all that was doing was keeping me hungry and then I'd blow it in the evening.

Talking with Nancy Clark also helped me emotionally/mentally too.  It's been easier to choose to drink less alcohol/pass on desserts etc.  She says each day you have a choice to either lose, gain or maintain.  On the days when I don't have any thing social going on, I choose to lose.  If I'm planning night out with friends, then I can have a little more and maybe meet or go over my calories for the day, knowing that I get to start all over again the next day.  I feel much more in control, and that I am making choices, not letting circumstances and cravings make choices for me.  It turns out this type of framework is just what I needed.

She also measured my body fat which turned out to be lower than I thought, and right in the healthy range for a fit woman my age.  That is a useful thing to remember when I have a "fat" day.   All of this is helping me be more peaceful about my weight and body image. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 11, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
It was 3.5 weeks ago when I first met with Nancy Clark and started following her advice.  I went last Friday for a follow up and I feel really good.  I've lost about 2 pounds, which is right in line with her suggestion for me to aim to lose 0.5 lb/week.

Before, I was always afraid of following a plan because I didn't want to feel trapped or restricted.  But with Nancy, I actually feel freedom.  I know how many calories to aim for.  I have permission to eat a large breakfast and lunch, and a good late afternoon snack.  Dinner is on the small side, but since I haven't been hungry all day, it's fine and I don't want more dinner.   In the past I never would have let myself eat so much for lunch and afternoon snack but really all that was doing was keeping me hungry and then I'd blow it in the evening.

Talking with Nancy Clark also helped me emotionally/mentally too.  It's been easier to choose to drink less alcohol/pass on desserts etc.  She says each day you have a choice to either lose, gain or maintain.  On the days when I don't have any thing social going on, I choose to lose.  If I'm planning night out with friends, then I can have a little more and maybe meet or go over my calories for the day, knowing that I get to start all over again the next day.  I feel much more in control, and that I am making choices, not letting circumstances and cravings make choices for me.  It turns out this type of framework is just what I needed.

She also measured my body fat which turned out to be lower than I thought, and right in the healthy range for a fit woman my age.  That is a useful thing to remember when I have a "fat" day.   All of this is helping me be more peaceful about my weight and body image. 

 :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat:

That is all great to read :)  I'm thrilled for you!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 11, 2012, 11:48:35 AM
Debba, it is hard to make good choices on a normal day.  Throw in a cranky toddler and it is even harder.

Caito, I am so very happy things are going great for you.  Sounds like it has been money well spent.  I love reading your updates.


I have managed to do well so far today.  Got a 7.5 mile run in this morning with my dog Jack.  I'm so happy at how well behaved he is off leash.  Coffee and a big bowl of oatmeal with bananas for breakfast.

Getting the kids out of the house to play at the toddler area in the mall again.  Lots of diverse culture exposure there. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 11, 2012, 12:03:08 PM
Getting the kids out of the house to play at the toddler area in the mall again.  Lots of diverse culture exposure there. 

When I took Reid to the bouncy place at the mall, and then for the train ride through the mall, we saw a guy who looked to be from India - he was wearing clothes I associate with traditional male Indian clothes, at least. He was also older. Reid saw him, pointed, and said, "MOMMY! What IS DAT?"

OMG. I wanted to die. Especially when we passed the guy a second time and Reid did it AGAIN. I said he was dressed up for the mall. Thank God the train was moving.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 11, 2012, 12:05:15 PM
Caito: so it was well worth the money!  Nice report.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 11, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
It was 3.5 weeks ago when I first met with Nancy Clark and started following her advice.  I went last Friday for a follow up and I feel really good.  I've lost about 2 pounds, which is right in line with her suggestion for me to aim to lose 0.5 lb/week.

Before, I was always afraid of following a plan because I didn't want to feel trapped or restricted.  But with Nancy, I actually feel freedom.  I know how many calories to aim for.  I have permission to eat a large breakfast and lunch, and a good late afternoon snack.  Dinner is on the small side, but since I haven't been hungry all day, it's fine and I don't want more dinner.   In the past I never would have let myself eat so much for lunch and afternoon snack but really all that was doing was keeping me hungry and then I'd blow it in the evening.

Talking with Nancy Clark also helped me emotionally/mentally too.  It's been easier to choose to drink less alcohol/pass on desserts etc.  She says each day you have a choice to either lose, gain or maintain.  On the days when I don't have any thing social going on, I choose to lose.  If I'm planning night out with friends, then I can have a little more and maybe meet or go over my calories for the day, knowing that I get to start all over again the next day.  I feel much more in control, and that I am making choices, not letting circumstances and cravings make choices for me.  It turns out this type of framework is just what I needed.

She also measured my body fat which turned out to be lower than I thought, and right in the healthy range for a fit woman my age.  That is a useful thing to remember when I have a "fat" day.   All of this is helping me be more peaceful about my weight and body image. 

Fantastic!!

Eating more earlier in the day has been a big help for me also. If I eat all my calories during the day, I find I'm not hungry and not tempted to eat in the evening. If I don't, I'm playin' with fire.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 11, 2012, 01:43:26 PM
Caito: so it was well worth the money!  Nice report.

Worth every penny!  In retrospect it all seems so simple and obvious, but I really did need the help seeing it all.  It was easier to trust Nancy than it was to trust myself about this stuff.  And somehow that led me to being more focused on my goal...maybe because it seems more in reach now?  Maybe before I was sabotaging myself before I had the chance to possibly just fail?

Fantastic!!

Eating more earlier in the day has been a big help for me also. If I eat all my calories during the day, I find I'm not hungry and not tempted to eat in the evening. If I don't, I'm playin' with fire.

Yep yep yep.   What a simple concept!  But I just couldn't see it before.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 11, 2012, 02:11:25 PM
Yep yep yep.   What a simple concept!  But I just couldn't see it before.

I also find that eating smaller, more frequent, meals means I need to eat less overall. But, I still don't trust those tiny portion sizes as enough. I mean, I know they are... but I still have to fight the urge to put just a little more on my plate!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 11, 2012, 02:15:29 PM
I've dodged the chocolate craving for now. I still want it, but I'm managing to ignore for the time being. The number on the scale this morning was one I really liked, and I'd like to keep it that way, dammit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 11, 2012, 02:23:13 PM
I've dodged the chocolate craving for now. I still want it, but I'm managing to ignore for the time being. The number on the scale this morning was one I really liked, and I'd like to keep it that way, dammit.

That's where I'm at, too, Debba. 

Tomorrow is my grandad's surgery, and I'm a fucking mess today.  Every time I stop doing anything, the worry comes flooding in, and I'm on the verge of a mild panic attack.  I just want it to be tomorrow night and him to be ok, in recovery. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 11, 2012, 02:35:40 PM
Aww Courtney.    :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 11, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
 :hug:

Hang tight, Courtney. You're doing great, given the stress.

I wish there were a way to get my current weight to flash on my computer screen every time my brain thinks about chocolate. The only thing that stopped me from running out and buying a binge was remembering that number - and I almost didn't do that. I was seriously about to grab my purse when the number flashed across my brain and I went "Wait a second." "But I want chocolate!" "But that number was SO good." "BUT I WANT CHOCOLATE." "You have chocolate-covered almonds in your desk, idiot." "THOSE AREN'T REESE'S MINIS, ASSHOLE." "Well, that's all you're getting if you still want chocolate at snack time." "Fuck you and your good scale number."

So, I've dodged the bullet, but I'm not entirely happy about it. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 11, 2012, 03:17:45 PM
 :hug: Courtney!

Caito-- that is great :)

I ate a lot yesterday after my run. I had some leftover pasta, some TCBY on the road down to the beach, 2 falafel sandwiches for dinner and a little scoop of ice cream for dessert :D I am sure i ate as many calories as i burned yesterday. LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 11, 2012, 03:19:17 PM
:hug:

Hang tight, Courtney. You're doing great, given the stress.

I wish there were a way to get my current weight to flash on my computer screen every time my brain thinks about chocolate. The only thing that stopped me from running out and buying a binge was remembering that number - and I almost didn't do that. I was seriously about to grab my purse when the number flashed across my brain and I went "Wait a second." "But I want chocolate!" "But that number was SO good." "BUT I WANT CHOCOLATE." "You have chocolate-covered almonds in your desk, idiot." "THOSE AREN'T REESE'S MINIS, ASSHOLE." "Well, that's all you're getting if you still want chocolate at snack time." "Fuck you and your good scale number."

So, I've dodged the bullet, but I'm not entirely happy about it. :)

I totally get that sentiment!  :D 

I am still trying the gluten free thing, to give it a fair shake, and about 100x this weekend I almost said screw it, but the number on the scale and the thought that maybe I'd feel better kept me from giving in.  It sucks, tho.  I'll be honest.  I feel like all I can safely eat is salad or meat.  I tried to make these portabella pizza things yesterday, and they were gross.  I still hate mushrooms, I guess.  All I want is some god damned pizza!!! 

And thanks for the hugs, y'all.  I'm sure it will be fine, but it's really major surgery, he's 75 (in good health, thankfully) and he's probably the most determined person I know.  So if it's up to him, he will be just fine.  I should be worried about my grandma, who's going to have to put up with his crankypantsness the few weeks following surgery when he's going to have to take it easy, a concept that is 100% foreign to him.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 11, 2012, 03:33:57 PM
My dad had a bypass at 75. He's still kicking along just fine now, at 83.  :hug:

And Lord, I don't know that I'd be able to handle gluten-free. I love bread too much. I'm hoping, sincerely hoping, that the cravings right now are the result of hormones and the chocolate I had in the car on Saturday as I drove home from my parents. Eating in the car helps keep me awake, and I was TIRED.

I made it home alive (obviously), but now I think I'm paying the price for putting that stuff in my body.  :-\
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 11, 2012, 04:04:27 PM
Eating in the car is such a tough spot for me, too, Debba.  It definitely keeps me from falling asleep, and it's really about the only thing that seems to work. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 11, 2012, 04:05:53 PM
Yep. And I'd gotten up that morning, gone for a run, gotten dressed, got Reid and DH organized for swim class, drove to my parents' to get my hair cut, met them for lunch, and then drove back home. So I was up early and spent about 3.5 hours in the car.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 11, 2012, 04:19:37 PM
Courtney...see if you can get some gluten free bread type products to work with so it isnt so hard.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 11, 2012, 05:28:15 PM
Courtney...see if you can get some gluten free bread type products to work with so it isnt so hard.

I have considered it...  I kind of don't want to spend the money (I know they are expensive!) until I've done this a couple weeks to see if it helps.  I know that probably doesn't make sense.  Plus, I'd have to make a special trip to the store, and I'm being lazy :D

At night, we are eating meat and potatoes (mmmm) and veggies, which is good for us anyway.  So it doesn't hurt me, aside from being cranky about not having pizza.  If I get really desperate, I'll go look for some, tho. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 11, 2012, 05:50:21 PM
what about cauliflower pizza? i made a vegan version an thought it was good. I have seen frozen gluten free pizza doughs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 11, 2012, 07:56:43 PM
I was going to suggest cauliflower pizza as well.  Someone posted this here before and my family likes it as much as the real stuff:
http://www.laurenconrad.com/post/recipe-box-doughless-pizza (http://www.laurenconrad.com/post/recipe-box-doughless-pizza)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 11, 2012, 11:01:50 PM
I may try that!  I think that sounds better than the mushroom for sure. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 12, 2012, 07:38:31 AM
looks like it is about to rain, hoping to get DD out in the BOB before it comes or before the brunt of it. we will see!! LOL.
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Post by: merigayle on June 12, 2012, 08:13:19 AM
and i am back up 4lbs on the scale  :grr:
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Post by: debbatx on June 12, 2012, 08:48:26 AM
Aw, meri, that sucks. I'm sorry!
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Post by: teetime on June 12, 2012, 09:26:20 AM
looks like it is about to rain, hoping to get DD out in the BOB before it comes or before the brunt of it. we will see!! LOL.

Amazing that you've gone from not being able to get her in the BOB to consistent runs so quickly.  Must be so nice!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 12, 2012, 09:50:00 AM
I'd love to take Reid out in the BOB for runs, but it seems unfair to everyone to drag him out of his crib at 5 AM. :D Right now, we pretty much just use it for walks to the park.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 12, 2012, 10:52:04 AM
Amazing that you've gone from not being able to get her in the BOB to consistent runs so quickly.  Must be so nice!
yes it is! she asked to go in it and now demands it daily!

I'd love to take Reid out in the BOB for runs, but it seems unfair to everyone to drag him out of his crib at 5 AM. :D Right now, we pretty much just use it for walks to the park.
LOL. so true.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 12, 2012, 11:20:59 AM
Good news:  My grandad's surgery is done, it went really well, and we are all so relieved :)  I don't remember how much I shared here, but they detected a tumor in his kidney when he did his CDL physical in April (some blood in the urine, such a small amount he didn't even know) and it was indeed a precancer tumor.  But the early detection is likely very good.  They removed his kidney  :yikes: becuase doing a needle biopsy or laproscopic surgery ran the big risk of the tumor/cancer spreading.  So it was pretty crazy, but we are lucky it was found when it was, I think. 

Other good news, sort of:  The gluten free experiment I'm doing is working.  I'm down 5 lbs from last Wednesday.  I've been tracking my points as well, and I'm eating about the same number of points, just no gluten.  So, we'll see how it goes for the next couple weeks, I guess.  I'm not thrilled about this, to be honest.  Gluten is in all the food I like, dammit! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 12, 2012, 11:29:00 AM
We are taking it with us to Colorado this summer, though. So it'll get some good use.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 12, 2012, 11:40:24 AM
We are taking it with us to Colorado this summer, though. So it'll get some good use.

You are coming to Colorado????? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 12, 2012, 11:45:54 AM
Courtney, I am SO Happy to hear everything went well with your granddad. That is awesome news.

As far as the gluten, I know a lot of people are poopooing this as the "next new fad" but I think there is something to it. I'm not saying wheat is evil, but it's in so many things, it was only a matter of time that too much of a good thing could become bad for some of us.

I have started a somewhat controversial way of eating that eliminates wheat (among many other delicious avoids.) I thought for sure bread and tortillas would be difficult for me, but oddly, it's been great, I do not miss it as much as I thought I would. It's the sugar I miss the most. Yesterday it took all of my strength not to eat the small pieces of brownie off the knife as I sliced them.

For now I will join you in the no-wheat thing and support you in any way I can. Do you know where I feel it? My gut. It doesn't feel as bloated and "fat" as usual. I'm only down about a pound, but I'm not too worried about weight. I want to heal my insides.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 12, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
Courtney, that's awesome about your grandfather AND that the gluten-free is working. DH would divorce me if I gave up gluten, I think. :)

And yeah, my parents are taking us all to Vail for a week at the end of July. SO excited. I haven't been to CO since before Reid was born, and that was just a long weekend for a wedding.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 12, 2012, 12:49:25 PM
Courtney, I am SO Happy to hear everything went well with your granddad. That is awesome news.

As far as the gluten, I know a lot of people are poopooing this as the "next new fad" but I think there is something to it. I'm not saying wheat is evil, but it's in so many things, it was only a matter of time that too much of a good thing could become bad for some of us.

I have started a somewhat controversial way of eating that eliminates wheat (among many other delicious avoids.) I thought for sure bread and tortillas would be difficult for me, but oddly, it's been great, I do not miss it as much as I thought I would. It's the sugar I miss the most. Yesterday it took all of my strength not to eat the small pieces of brownie off the knife as I sliced them.

For now I will join you in the no-wheat thing and support you in any way I can. Do you know where I feel it? My gut. It doesn't feel as bloated and "fat" as usual. I'm only down about a pound, but I'm not too worried about weight. I want to heal my insides.

You know, my doctor mentioned that wheat has really changed in composition AND it's in EVERYTHING now, so she thinks there is something to it as well.  And my friend, who is in charge of food services for senior services, also mentioned that same thing when I was at her house this weekend.  I also don't feel the bloat/gassy feeling as much.  It's only been 5 days, so I'm hoping to see some improvements in other digestive areas as well (I've always had probs there).  Baked goods are hard for me, too.   I really like baking, so it's sucky :D  I did make some flour free brownies this weekend that were basically powdered sugar and egg whites and cocoa, and they were ok, different, but not bad.  I'm struggling the most with not being able to just run out and grab a quick lunch...  qdoba naked salads are my only option close to work right now.  Tonight I'm going to purposefully cook enough for leftovers (I often just cook the right amount for the 2 of us), so that I can have that for lunch tomorrow.  I'm still eating potatoes, which helps.  I've made those smashed potatoes I posted about on FB, twice baked potatoes, and home fries in the last week.  :D  And I have some sweet potatoes at home to whip up as well. 

I realized that I can make some chili or chicken taco soup gluten free really easily, so I may make some of that this weekend to bring in for lunches. 

I hope that this new style of eating works for you!  Are you concerned about celiac disease? 

Debba, it doesn't sound like you'll have free time for a meet up, but if you did, let me know :)  I'd love to get together!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 12, 2012, 01:09:41 PM
Courtney- yeah to both! I eat almost no gluten, but have thought about going completely gluten free. You know me, i will try anything to lose a few pounds :D Miso soup for lunch today  :eyeroll: trying to be really good. DD wanted breakfast cookies and i ate a couple, i did sub oatmeal ground down instead of flour.
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Post by: debbatx on June 12, 2012, 01:11:35 PM
Thanks, Courtney! I'm not sure how things are going to go - I won't have a car (I can't see my parents letting me borrow their car to jaunt off to Denver for the day or something), and it just seemed mean to throw it out to the CO CHers that I'd be there but that you'd all have to drive to Vail to see me, LOL.

I hope the gluten-free thing goes well for you, and you, too, tricia!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 12, 2012, 02:11:11 PM
Foooook! My soup exploded in the car on the way to work :( It is all over me and it was in a plastic shopping bag, but it still leaked like the Dickens :( I had a mini clif bar to hold me over until dinner (5 hours from now......). Did I mention I am now sponsored by Clif and have a bajillion free samples? they are only 100 cals/piece luckily.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 12, 2012, 02:15:18 PM
Oh no!

I'm glad you have Clif samples (and how COOL that you have a sponsor!!!!), but oh, that sucks about your soup!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 12, 2012, 02:53:04 PM
Oh no!

I'm glad you have Clif samples (and how COOL that you have a sponsor!!!!), but oh, that sucks about your soup!
my poor poor soup. i hope my car does not smell too bad when i get in it to go home :D yes, i get 3 shipments of 6 cases of clif bars this year and lots of free shwag. I have a few sponsors for Badwater, nothing huge, but lots of freebies :D I hope to get atleast a free race entry this year from Brooks. They demoted most of their sponsored runners this year, which was fine because i rarely run in Brooks anymore, just wear their clothes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 12, 2012, 03:39:24 PM
That's so awesome! No one would want me as a billboard for their products. :D
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Post by: Courtney on June 12, 2012, 05:01:41 PM
my poor poor soup. i hope my car does not smell too bad when i get in it to go home :D yes, i get 3 shipments of 6 cases of clif bars this year and lots of free shwag. I have a few sponsors for Badwater, nothing huge, but lots of freebies :D I hope to get atleast a free race entry this year from Brooks. They demoted most of their sponsored runners this year, which was fine because i rarely run in Brooks anymore, just wear their clothes.

I am part of the brooks thing, and get the discount.  I only use it on shoes nowadays.  But the shoes are aweseom.  And I'm going to use that Moving Comfort code asap as well.  I need a couple more bras, since some of mine are probably 8 years old.   :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 12, 2012, 05:17:35 PM
Sorry about the soup meri.  Sounds like a pain in the ass.  Also sorry about the scales.... could it be faulty?  Your numbers seem to vary so much that I'd be wanting a new scale.  Or one not so accurate, lol.

I'm curious, and impressed, how do you get sponsors?  Do you approach them or the other way around or what? 


Today is a no nap day for the kids.  Jesus I do NOT want to enter the no nap phase of childhood.  We did keep them busy this morning with story time and a grocery trip.  David pushed around the carts for toddlers and loved it.

Food has still been rough for me today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 12, 2012, 05:53:38 PM
I am SO not ready for Reid to drop his nap.  :nono:
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Post by: merigayle on June 12, 2012, 06:06:55 PM
no nap would kill me  :panic:
i always think my scale is broken, not sure i can justify yet another one  :sigh:

I applied for Clif and Brooks and asked my sock company to sponsor me (Injinji) and last year i asked No Meat Athlete to sponsor me at Badwater :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 12, 2012, 06:20:45 PM
Not concerned with celiac. Just trying something new with my diet in an effort to help balance out some underlying issues I am having. It's not necessarily GF, because I am still allowed barley (does that have gluten?.) See I don't even know what has it and what doesn't!

I think that REALLY FRIKKIN cool that ya'll have sponsors and get free stuff and coupons and whatnot. The only "sponsor" I have right now is my mama.. and she buys me a new pair of shoes every year for my birthday!  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 13, 2012, 06:41:06 AM
Ran this morning. Now to stay on track with my food intake today. Might need a shot of caffeine this afternoon.

WHY is my child awake??? And making elephant sounds?????
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Post by: merigayle on June 13, 2012, 07:18:20 AM
good job debba!

still up 4lbs and getting really annoyed.  :bat:
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Post by: merigayle on June 13, 2012, 07:34:41 AM
having a hard time with breakfast ideas that are healthy. i may have to concede and just eat non breakfast food for breakfast to stay healthy and low calorie and low carb. I just find all my bfast ideas are pancakes, sweet breads, muffins, etc. I burned out on tofu scramble, but may make some tomorrow or later today to have on hand. I made breakfast cookies yesterday which came out to around 90 cals/piece, but not super filling, even two of them. They were delicious though!
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Post by: diablita on June 13, 2012, 08:34:31 AM
morning.  I'm no help, I just eat the light english muffins with thin cheese slices every day

we're headed down to the Greenville Zoo (in SC) and to Trader Joes.  I'll probably eat some unhealthiness but hopefully walk it off
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 13, 2012, 09:16:01 AM
Smoothie? Luna bars work in a pinch. I did find an oatmeal recipe for my Little Dipper crockpot thing, but I haven't tried it yet. Oatmeal's probably not low-carb, either. :)
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Post by: triciaflower on June 13, 2012, 09:39:40 AM
Meri, I do better with a higher protein breakfast and some of my staples are: tuna, eggs (wait.. are you vegan?) with lots of vegetables, puffed brown rice cereal with hemp milk and flax meal.

I would much rather eat non-breakfast foods for breakfast than anything else.
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Post by: teetime on June 13, 2012, 10:04:38 AM
I think getting a low carb high protein breakfast might be hard with a vegan diet unless you get used to being flexible with the breakfast concept.  There are some veggies that I find great for summer breakfast ... red pepper, sliced carrots, cucumber ... all really refreshing.  Some of those with some tofu based or bean based spread?

Will you eat eggs from farm raised free range chickens?  If so, they are great.

Almond milk with fiber one cereal?
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Post by: caito on June 13, 2012, 10:22:33 AM
Greek yogurt with walnuts, fruit, plain Kashi GoLean is a high protein, satisfying breakfast I eat all the time.    Is greek yogurt vegan?   Maybe soy yogurt?

How many calories do you aim for for breakfast?  Since you run a lot and especially in the morning,  you may need a larger breakfast than what you are used to.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 13, 2012, 10:29:52 AM
I have been doing smoothies made with yogurt, fruit, and oatmeal.  They keep me full until right before lunch. 

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Post by: merigayle on June 13, 2012, 10:30:10 AM
I am open to eggs, DD's school raises organic free range chickens and i have bought eggs from the school for DH. I am vegetarian for moral reasons, vegan for health reasons, if that makes sense. It is hard for me to plan my food, because, for example, i ran at 5:30am, then again at 8am. I had a breakfast cookie at 5:30 (90cals) and some sauteed seitan at 7:30 (about 100 calories? high protein), then i just ate some yogurt (10am) and had some berries at home-- so a total of probably 400cals?. A luna bar would not fill me, i ate one the other day at the beach. Oatmeal is ok, but again, i do not find it that filling. I will see if they have any eggs today, otherwise, I will make some tofu scramble tonight for tomorrow's bfast.
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Post by: merigayle on June 13, 2012, 10:30:54 AM
I have been doing smoothies made with yogurt, fruit, and oatmeal.  They keep me full until right before lunch.
they don't keep me full, even with oatmeal in them :( maybe i can have some brown rice for breakfast or something. I dunno. Nothing sounds good to me. I think I am in a food rut and just really unhappy with my weight and my race like 30 days away.
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Post by: debbatx on June 13, 2012, 10:36:36 AM
Talk to me about putting oatmeal in smoothies. How do you do it? Does it have to be cooked first?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 13, 2012, 10:38:57 AM
I am open to eggs, DD's school raises organic free range chickens and i have bought eggs from the school for DH. I am vegetarian for moral reasons, vegan for health reasons, if that makes sense. It is hard for me to plan my food, because, for example, i ran at 5:30am, then again at 8am. I had a breakfast cookie at 5:30 (90cals) and some sauteed seitan at 7:30 (about 100 calories? high protein), then i just ate some yogurt (10am) and had some berries at home-- so a total of probably 400cals?. A luna bar would not fill me, i ate one the other day at the beach. Oatmeal is ok, but again, i do not find it that filling. I will see if they have any eggs today, otherwise, I will make some tofu scramble tonight for tomorrow's bfast.

I am channeling my inner Nancy Clark and I know that she would say 400 calories to fuel 2 runs in the morning is not enough.  How many total miles?   She would advise to eat more in the morning since you need to fuel your whole day.  Then later on in the day, eat less.  If you don't fuel enough, your body will hang on to every calorie it gets.

Following Nancy's plan, I will have eaten about 1200 calories by noon if I wake up at 6am to run 5-7 miles. (This terrified me at first because it seems like a TON!) Total for the day 2,000-2,200 (based on my height/age/weight/activity level at work) I'm not hungry at night now and the weight is coming off.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 13, 2012, 11:10:29 AM
Talk to me about putting oatmeal in smoothies. How do you do it? Does it have to be cooked first?

Nope.  I just spoon it in dry from the big tall, round container.  Then when I blend it up, it gets all blended in to the smoothie.  It's delicious.  And I seriously hate oatmeal.  :D  I can't stomach it cooked AT ALL, so I'm surprised I like this.
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Post by: debbatx on June 13, 2012, 11:12:26 AM
Excellent! I'll have to try that with the next smoothie. Thanks!
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Post by: Courtney on June 13, 2012, 11:14:35 AM
Excellent! I'll have to try that with the next smoothie. Thanks!

I just used the last of my frozen berries this morning, so I need to get more before tomorrow!  I like to put a little crystal light flavor mix in some of them, too.  Sometimes it just needs a bit more tang to it, and that seems to do it.  I like lemonade or the orange.  But not everyone likes crystal light. 
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Post by: debbatx on June 13, 2012, 11:18:07 AM
Good ideas - I usually do yogurt, OJ, bananas, strawberries, and blackberries. Reid can't eat raw blueberries.
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Post by: merigayle on June 13, 2012, 11:18:44 AM
Talk to me about putting oatmeal in smoothies. How do you do it? Does it have to be cooked first?
i grind it in the blender first into a powder, then put everything else in and blend


I am channeling my inner Nancy Clark and I know that she would say 400 calories to fuel 2 runs in the morning is not enough.  How many total miles?   She would advise to eat more in the morning since you need to fuel your whole day.  Then later on in the day, eat less.  If you don't fuel enough, your body will hang on to every calorie it gets.

Following Nancy's plan, I will have eaten about 1200 calories by noon if I wake up at 6am to run 5-7 miles. (This terrified me at first because it seems like a TON!) Total for the day 2,000-2,200 (based on my height/age/weight/activity level at work) I'm not hungry at night now and the weight is coming off.
if i ate 2000 cals/day i would be an elephant! I am running 8-10 miles on average, total, sometimes closer to 12. Maybe I will aim for closer to 600 calories. I am also always hungry, so i try to space out my food, but maybe i should try eating less often and more each time? I can easily pare down dinner to fewer calories, my dinners are 3/4 steamed veg.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 13, 2012, 11:32:01 AM
How tall are you?   You are an active person aside from running.  You work, you care for a toddler, it's not like you're lounging around all day.  If you are running 8-10 miles/day, you are burning 800-1,000 cals/day in addition to your BMR and your daily activity.   You are more than likely burning well over 2,000-2,2000/day.

If you are frequently genuinely hungry, that means your body is asking for fuel. 

I will stop now because I don't want to nag or to presume that you don't know your body the best.   But I am concerned because you are very active, you've been struggling with your weight and I know how difficult that can be emotionally, let alone with the stress of a big race approaching.   Maybe after the race it may be a good time to assess what your strategy has been, what is working, and what's not working, and what you might be able to tweak to do differently?

 :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on June 13, 2012, 11:35:30 AM
i grind it in the blender first into a powder, then put everything else in and blend

 if i ate 2000 cals/day i would be an elephant! I am running 8-10 miles on average, total, sometimes closer to 12. Maybe I will aim for closer to 600 calories. I am also always hungry, so i try to space out my food, but maybe i should try eating less often and more each time? I can easily pare down dinner to fewer calories, my dinners are 3/4 steamed veg.

Have you ever experimented with feeding your hunger and spending time away from the scale and calorie counting.  I am sure it would be scary but you are already so frustrated and the idea of you running running running and being hungry all the time is painful to just read about.  I am sure you would still eat whole healthful foods but what if you let yourself eat enough of them?  After your race maybe?  A one month experiment?
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Post by: Ice Cream on June 13, 2012, 11:44:59 AM
I am channeling my inner Nancy Clark and I know that she would say 400 calories to fuel 2 runs in the morning is not enough.  How many total miles?   She would advise to eat more in the morning since you need to fuel your whole day.  Then later on in the day, eat less.  If you don't fuel enough, your body will hang on to every calorie it gets.

Following Nancy's plan, I will have eaten about 1200 calories by noon if I wake up at 6am to run 5-7 miles. (This terrified me at first because it seems like a TON!) Total for the day 2,000-2,200 (based on my height/age/weight/activity level at work) I'm not hungry at night now and the weight is coming off.


This makes sense, but I would be terrified, too.  On the other hand, I trust Nancy Clark knows what she is talking about, and your experience confirms, it seems.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 13, 2012, 11:58:31 AM
Have you ever experimented with feeding your hunger and spending time away from the scale and calorie counting.  I am sure it would be scary but you are already so frustrated and the idea of you running running running and being hungry all the time is painful to just read about.  I am sure you would still eat whole healthful foods but what if you let yourself eat enough of them?  After your race maybe?  A one month experiment?
yes and then i gain :( and then if i think about what i was eating, it comes in around 1800 cals/ day. I am afraid to eat more because every time i eat even a little more i gain. I can try to experiment more after my race. On my long run days, I do eat 2500-3000 calories that day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 13, 2012, 05:38:50 PM
making this for dinner, this was one of the first recipes i found on pinterest and it is a super winner---- http://www.weightwatchers.com/food/rcp/RecipePage.aspx?recipeid=126221 (http://www.weightwatchers.com/food/rcp/RecipePage.aspx?recipeid=126221) i do not use cheese, so even lower in calories. I may throw a little non dairy cheeze on top for the family.
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Post by: Bolloxd on June 13, 2012, 09:45:34 PM
Hi ladies.   

Fairly active day for me since we took he kids to the local Sccience Center, lots of walking.   It was fun for all of us.  David squealed with excitement when he saw the dinosaur exhibit and made the staff giggle.   Then he saw them move and was scared to death.  They were well behaved at a restaurant too. Yay.

I picked wild black berries this afternoon and made a blissfully sinful cobbler.   At least we had a healthy dinner of pasts with tons of veggies.

Was hoping on a run but DH keeps saying he wants to run too.  OK,  fine,  but then do it and not back out leaving me with no time to run.   Ugh.  I'm just going to start doing it when I want/can and he can work around it.
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Post by: diablita on June 13, 2012, 09:47:25 PM
mmm blackberries.  Ours need a few more weeks until ripeness.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 13, 2012, 11:48:23 PM
Today was staff appreciation day at work. Apparently the university interprets this as feed us the cheapest grossest food possible...undercooked dry fried rice, a nasty cold egg roll, and a leathery chicken skewer. Of course I still ate it because I was starving. I did good with working out today. An hour on the treadmill. I always find it funny when skinny people get on next to me and try and compete with me. They look at my screen and then turn theirs up to just faster than mine...only they never last more than a few minutes. It cracks me up.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 14, 2012, 07:01:14 AM
my weight is back down. i just do not understand, however, i will say, DD got on the scale and it weighed her 2lbs heavy and we have an infant scale and we had just weighed her on that, and i trust that more, it was the same as the dr's scale. I did not make my 5am run because i was just exhausted yesterday, but i do have time for 2 runs today, but i wanted to run some errands before work instead of running. Oh well.
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Post by: merigayle on June 14, 2012, 07:54:52 AM
how good does this look?

http://kblog.lunchboxbunch.com/2011/11/tofu-hash-brown-breakfast-pockets.html (http://kblog.lunchboxbunch.com/2011/11/tofu-hash-brown-breakfast-pockets.html)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 09:54:34 AM
My alarm went off and as I was contemplating getting up, the dog started to barf. DH took her outside, which woke up Reid.

No run for me. Gym tonight, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 12:22:04 PM
Oh, FFS. I'm on the verge of having to fire my trainer. Goddammit. Fuckity-fuck-fuck-fuck.

DO. NOT. NEED. THIS. SHIT.

Sorry, I'm in a mood right now. DH pissed me off and now this.  :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

Where's the chocolate?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on June 14, 2012, 12:23:54 PM
Where's the chocolate?

Go power walk off your anger instead!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 12:25:46 PM
I'm at work!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 14, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
What happened with the trainer?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 12:35:09 PM
Whenever he has problems with his fiancee, he gets flirty with me. They're on the verge of breaking up, if they haven't already, and he's sending flirty texts again. And yes, he knows I'm married. He used to train both of us.  :mad2:

He's not flirty in person, usually, which makes it harder for me to handle the texts.  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 14, 2012, 01:11:25 PM
MM,  that must feel so satisfying to run longer than your competition.   Awesome.
Meri,   I'm not a tofu person so can't comment on the recipe.  But at least you know now that your scale can't be too accurate with a 2lb difference.
Diablita,  there were more blackberries to be had but they were surrounded by poison ivy.  :nono: :sigh:
Debba,  oh hell no!  Does your DH know about the texts?   Id be very pissed and find someone else.  That is creepy and unprofessional.   


I hit the snooze button too many times this morning.   I hate getting up early ....probably because I stay up too late. We did the toddler gym this morning then went to look around a park...finding new things and places to do with the kids.  They've been very active this week.  Now that they are napping, the minute I try to catch my breath I just want to sleep myself.   So I'm struggling between getting a nap or running.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on June 14, 2012, 01:12:52 PM
That is inappropriate. I would probably fire him.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 01:15:26 PM
I've been training with him for almost 6 years, and it's only in the last year - when his fiancee went away to school (to Dallas) for her PT degree - that he's done stuff like this.  :sigh: I just do NOT have the energy for this right now. I'm pissed at DH, I'm PMSing, Reid was a total pill this morning, and now this? GAH. I have no idea what to do.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 14, 2012, 01:37:54 PM
There are lots of great trainers out there.  If he's being inappropriate with you, tell him to STOP.  If he doesnt', fire him. 

Not ok.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 01:44:17 PM
I did. He was trying to flirt this morning and I told him to stop it. :sigh:

Maybe I should just quit anyway. It's expensive, and surely I can just do pushups and crunches at home or something.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 14, 2012, 01:45:09 PM
There are lots of great trainers out there.  If he's being inappropriate with you, tell him to STOP.  If he doesnt', fire him. 

Not ok.  :(
this!

yeah the scale is obviously not correct, lol. i could not find the old digital tanita, will ask DH tonight. Caito, i ate about 500-600 calories by lunch time (not including lunch) so be proud :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 14, 2012, 01:55:09 PM
this!

yeah the scale is obviously not correct, lol. i could not find the old digital tanita, will ask DH tonight. Caito, i ate about 500-600 calories by lunch time (not including lunch) so be proud :)

:D  How do you feel?  Nancy is proud!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 14, 2012, 01:57:02 PM
I did. He was trying to flirt this morning and I told him to stop it. :sigh:

Maybe I should just quit anyway. It's expensive, and surely I can just do pushups and crunches at home or something.

If you quit, you let some creep win.  Fire this guy and hire another trainer who is not a creep and doesn't cancel on you as often as the last guy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 14, 2012, 01:58:45 PM
I am guessing your gym would like to know about it. If I were them, I'd be pretty upset.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 14, 2012, 02:01:09 PM
And yeah, I know that this trainer is also a cop but that is no excuse.  Some cops think they can get away with anything.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 02:02:46 PM
I'm sure the gym would like to know about it. At the same time, I'd like to be able to keep GOING to the gym without having to worry about looking over my shoulder constantly. It's the YMCA - there's a pool, classes for Reid, that kind of thing. I'd prefer to not burn bridges.

I'm also really bad at standing up for myself.

This is also a newish trend for him. In 6 years, this is the first year or so that he's done this. It's been sporadic, and, looking back, it's usually when he and his fiancee are having issues. Not excusing the behavior, just trying to show that it's not like I've been putting up with this for 6 years.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 14, 2012, 04:49:21 PM
I'm sure the gym would like to know about it. At the same time, I'd like to be able to keep GOING to the gym without having to worry about looking over my shoulder constantly. It's the YMCA - there's a pool, classes for Reid, that kind of thing. I'd prefer to not burn bridges.

I know... it's no fun. When I was about 19 I worked as a receptionist for an office and the office supply delivery guy would always flirt with me and ask me out. I really dreaded it. When I got laid off from that job I was actually kind of relieved to not deal with him again. But then, I got another job doing something similar and a few months later he ended up being the delivery driver there as well. The first time he came in there, he made the delivery and then came back later the same day with a big bouquet of roses. I ended up calling the place and complaining... I never saw him again. I don't know if they fired him- I told them I didn't want him fired, I just wanted him to stop hitting on me. I felt bad for getting him in trouble, but I also wanted it to stop. I can't even imagine getting that from my trainer... I have personal space issues anyway and someone being in that close proximity and being skeevy... makes my skin crawl just thinking of it!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 14, 2012, 04:54:55 PM
Debba, maybe try some group classes instead?  Mix it up?  Spend the money you save on shoes or wine :D  Win-win. 

In all seriousness, I have a male trainer, and he spends a lot of time blushing at us girls.  THere are 4 of us, and we are close to his daughter's ages, maybe a bit older.  So I think he's surprised by the raunchy nature of our conversations!  But he'd NEVER EVER hit on us.  His whole reputation is on the line. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 14, 2012, 05:05:55 PM
Well is he hot?

Kidding. Actually, I'm not gonna lie, knowing me, There is a small slight chance I might be just a little bit of flattered. Thinking.. "Hey! I still got it!"  :D

Seriously, though, since I've never had a trainer, I really don't know how I'd react. I imagine the close proximity would make it quite uncomfortable to deal with. Is he creepily trying to make the moves on you? Does he really think he even has a chance in hell?!

It's really unprofessional, and not to mention skeevy considering he has an on-off girlfriend. What are you? His back up? GAH! You are paying money for him to do his job. Not flirt.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 05:14:04 PM
There are no group classes at times when I could go, unfortunately. :( And yeah, I'm going to see how tonight goes. If he says anything other than an apology, I'll say something. If does it again, I'll get through the sessions I've already bought and then quit, I guess, and come up with a Plan B for strength training.  :sigh:

I am SO not in the mood for this.

Tricia, he's not my type, but I can see how others might think he was hot, I guess. And in person, he's never once tried anything. Not once. That's part of what makes it so hard to wrap my head around the texts. WTF? The only thing I can think of was one time I was really down on myself and said something about being a giant fatass and he was like, "What? You're pretty, what are you talking about?" Which was nice, and I didn't take it as a flirty thing at all. But maybe I'm stupid.

And his girlfriend is really his fiancee. They're fighting right now, though, because she's out of town in school and blaaaaaaaaaaaaaah blah blah dramacakes. At this point, after 6 years, he's kind of a friend, too. It's that weird line when you've used a professional for a really long time, you know? Eh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 14, 2012, 05:24:48 PM
Oh Debbatx.. I hope he realizes what a douche he's being. I'm not downplaying it, and I'm not trying to make excuses for the guy, but maybe he's just getting cold feet with his fiancee? Trying to test the waters so to speak to see if HE still has game left? In any case, he totally owes you an apology for taking your friendship to an inappropriate level and you deserve to feel like you aren't being hit on. In person or via text.

It ain't right.

You are strong. You can handle him. He doesn't apologize.. give him the  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 14, 2012, 05:32:13 PM
Deb I'm like you.  I'd feel uncomfortable, bitch about it, and hope it goes away on its own.  But if the flirting doesn't stop then yeah its time to just move on.  A real friend wouldn't want you feeling uncomfortable.


I got a nap in and managed to run this afternoon.  2 miles outside with DH... it was too hot and he had knee issues so I did another 3 on the treadmill.  Felt good that I didn't blow it off totally like I almost did.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
If anything, the fiancee is the one getting cold feet. *shrug* But yes, he needs to back off and apologize and if he doesn't... blargh. Move on, I guess.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 14, 2012, 05:54:30 PM
Diablita, have you been to Tweetsie Railroad with J?  We are wondering if D & R would like it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 14, 2012, 08:46:55 PM
Bolloxd, we haven't but have heard good things.  We've been to the Bryson City railway for Day Out with Thomas and it's wonderful -- so much to see and do.  But DOWT in Bryson City is at the end of July and hotter than Hades.  You should give Tweetsie a try.


I had a choice between a trail run or going to a hardcore TRX class tonight and chose the latter -- I so rarely can make that work when I'm working.  It was great -- "cardio blast" so we did 4 sets of multiple strength moves, then a minute of high intensity cardio, then a minute of rest and then another set.  I'm sure I'll be feeling it tomorrow but I can tell that I'm a lot stronger than when I did the beginner class.



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 09:31:45 PM
Okay, so I stood up for myself. Told him he was being creepy, I was off-limits and he KNOWS that, so cut the shit out, and if he ever did it again, I was never coming back. Lord Almighty. I am drained. Stupid men.

I'm also PMSing, so he's lucky I didn't just whack him across the head with a weight bar.

Oh, and he and the fiancee are on a break, as of Sunday, whatever the eff that means.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 14, 2012, 09:42:44 PM
go debba!  I'm proud of you -- that took cojones.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 14, 2012, 09:45:42 PM
He gave me an opening, so I took it. I probably would have tried to pretend it didn't happen otherwise. :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 14, 2012, 10:37:53 PM
Good for you for speaking up!

 :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 14, 2012, 11:29:54 PM
He gave me an opening, so I took it. I probably would have tried to pretend it didn't happen otherwise. :-[
Good for you for taking it.   :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 15, 2012, 08:27:39 AM
way to go Debba!

no 5am run this morning :( DD woke up at 2:30 and i got her back to sleep and then i was up for two hours. skipped the run to get a little more sleep so i can function at work and in life today. hoping to get my regular post work run in and then maybe get out with the BOB.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 15, 2012, 09:38:42 AM
Thanks, y'all. I really do appreciate the support - I'm horrible about standing up for myself, even though he was being outrageous.

Meri, I didn't get up, either. I don't know why not - I vaguely remember the alarm going off, and I must have turned it off, but I don't remember. Next thing I knew, it was 6. DH said he didn't sleep well last night, so maybe it disturbed me, even if I didn't realize it. *shrug* I hope you're able to get through today!

Lesson learned: use a backup alarm. :) As much as I hate it, I think I'm going to shoot for getting up at 5 tomorrow, too, just to try and get some momentum going. I can take a nap tomorrow when Reid does, at least.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 15, 2012, 12:38:35 PM
Last night I went to a bably shower, and since I had no idea what was in any of the food, I stuck to fruit & veggies, some cheese and meat from a tray, and a slice of ice cream cake :D  Which was FUCKING DELICIOUS.  I didn't eat the middle crunchy part, since it probably had gluten.  I suppose I should double check the cake, but typically ice cream itself is good. 

So this weekend my MIL and SIL are coming over for a sewing party.  I don't really want to mention the gluten thing, since I'm only experimenting with it, and if this turns out to not be the problem, I don't want them forever saying shit like 'Oh, Courtney can't have that'.  WHich they will.  I lost significant weight about 10 years ago now, and they both like to still say things like "Since you can't eat hamburgers..." just becasue there were times when I chose to eat a veggie burger, or skip a burger in lieu of something else.  It's SOOOOOOOOOOOO annoying. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 15, 2012, 12:42:41 PM
OMG, I'd  :fiery: anyone who talked like that to me, especially 10 years after the fact! WTF? Gah! Some jackass in the elevator yesterday looked at what I was carrying (a Diet Coke and a small pack of Skittles) and said, "I hope that's not your lunch." I said no, it was a snack for later, and he said, "Good, because that doesn't look very healthy."

Lucky for him, the elevator ride ended about then.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on June 15, 2012, 12:57:07 PM
So this weekend my MIL and SIL are coming over for a sewing party.  I don't really want to mention the gluten thing, since I'm only experimenting with it, and if this turns out to not be the problem, I don't want them forever saying shit like 'Oh, Courtney can't have that'.  WHich they will.  I lost significant weight about 10 years ago now, and they both like to still say things like "Since you can't eat hamburgers..." just becasue there were times when I chose to eat a veggie burger, or skip a burger in lieu of something else.  It's SOOOOOOOOOOOO annoying. 

Since the ball is in your court for food prep. can you just be sure to have plenty you can eat and little enough of stuff you can't eat that they won't notice you are passing it by?  What time of day?  Need menu prep. help?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 15, 2012, 12:58:27 PM
OMG, I'd  :fiery: anyone who talked like that to me, especially 10 years after the fact! WTF? Gah! Some jackass in the elevator yesterday looked at what I was carrying (a Diet Coke and a small pack of Skittles) and said, "I hope that's not your lunch." I said no, it was a snack for later, and he said, "Good, because that doesn't look very healthy."

Lucky for him, the elevator ride ended about then.

 :fiery: indeed!!!  What the hell, dude?  I hate, hate, hate commentary on what I'm eating.  I mean, it's one thing if my friend is all "whatcha having for lunch?" but it's different when someone says something like they've placed judgement on what you are eating.  "Oh, I don't eat bananas, they have too many carbs."  That shit makes me want to say "You know, you probalby don't need carbs for sitting around on your ass all day, but I do stuff, so fuck off!"

Seriously, I could rant about this a long time! 

Last time my MIL said "Courtney, what can I get you since you don't eat burgers?" I tried to remember that she was being nice (offering to get me something different) so I just sweetly said "Oh, Linda, I love a good burger!  As long as I have ketchup, I'm golden!"  But FFS, because one time, a few years ago, I opted for a healthy veggie burger does not mean I don't ever eat burgers.  If I were vegetarian, it would be different, because I truly wouldn't eat them, but that's not the case. 

When my SIL does it, I don't take it as well.  Because she's totally being all "Courtney just likes to be different/difficult".  Or at least that's how it seems to me :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 15, 2012, 01:00:19 PM
Since the ball is in your court for food prep. can you just be sure to have plenty you can eat and little enough of stuff you can't eat that they won't notice you are passing it by?  What time of day?  Need menu prep. help?

It's an all day deal! 

I was actually thinking maybe we'd do a baked potato bar type thing for lunch.  Then I can set out sandwich stuff, too, and either make a lettuce wrap sandwich, which will certainly seem weird, but I can pass it off as trying to save calories or something. 

We'll probably have out snacky stuff too, but I'll set out veggies and fruit, so I should be ok there.  And maybe I'll get corn chips & salsa. 

But I'm TOTALLY open to ideas!  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 15, 2012, 01:04:43 PM
:fiery: indeed!!!  What the hell, dude?  I hate, hate, hate commentary on what I'm eating.  I mean, it's one thing if my friend is all "whatcha having for lunch?" but it's different when someone says something like they've placed judgement on what you are eating.  "Oh, I don't eat bananas, they have too many carbs."  That shit makes me want to say "You know, you probalby don't need carbs for sitting around on your ass all day, but I do stuff, so fuck off!"

Seriously, I could rant about this a long time! 

Last time my MIL said "Courtney, what can I get you since you don't eat burgers?" I tried to remember that she was being nice (offering to get me something different) so I just sweetly said "Oh, Linda, I love a good burger!  As long as I have ketchup, I'm golden!"  But FFS, because one time, a few years ago, I opted for a healthy veggie burger does not mean I don't ever eat burgers.  If I were vegetarian, it would be different, because I truly wouldn't eat them, but that's not the case. 

When my SIL does it, I don't take it as well.  Because she's totally being all "Courtney just likes to be different/difficult".  Or at least that's how it seems to me :D 

I tease coworkers about their food. One of the undergrad boys eats things like 3 burgers from McDonalds for lunch...I tease him for his "nutritious" lunches. I hope people don't think I am being an asshole.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 15, 2012, 01:07:28 PM
I tease coworkers about their food. One of the undergrad boys eats things like 3 burgers from McDonalds for lunch...I tease him for his "nutritious" lunches. I hope people don't think I am being an asshole.

There's a difference between teasing and what I'm talking about, trust me.  I'd guess that he is also far less sensitive about that stuff than I am.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 15, 2012, 01:23:42 PM
There's a difference between teasing and what I'm talking about, trust me.  I'd guess that he is also far less sensitive about that stuff than I am.  :D 

Considering what he eats I don't think he is sensitive at all.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 15, 2012, 01:26:15 PM
Considering what he eats I don't think he is sensitive at all.  :D

Most guys don't seem to be.  :D  Especially college aged guys who probably burn eleventy billion calories each day just by existing. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 15, 2012, 01:28:02 PM
This was also someone I'd never seen before in my life. WTF? We used to give a guy at the law office a ration of shit for his lunches, because he'd eat like 3 burgers or something, and the little fucker was skinny as a rail.

My boss's admin assistant will take a slice of cake, when we have some in the office, and then scrape all the icing into the trash because, "that's where all the triglycerides are."  ???

I confess, I've thought about diving into the trash and saving the icing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 15, 2012, 01:36:37 PM
This was also someone I'd never seen before in my life. WTF? We used to give a guy at the law office a ration of shit for his lunches, because he'd eat like 3 burgers or something, and the little fucker was skinny as a rail.

My boss's admin assistant will take a slice of cake, when we have some in the office, and then scrape all the icing into the trash because, "that's where all the triglycerides are."  ???

I confess, I've thought about diving into the trash and saving the icing.

:D

My thought, and I will tell people this when they start giving me diet advice, is that if I'm going to have cake, I'm going to have fucking cake.  Now, I don't like cake, so I might only eat the frosting, but it's not because of some health concern.  :D  Mostly, I don't give a shit what other people eat, I just want to punch someone when they tell me they know better than I do.  Because in like 99% of these encounters, they are spouting fad diet bullshit, and this also makes me think I'm smarter than they are in general (I'm kind of a dick like this). 

This is totally different from when I'm asking for info/advice.  Please don't mistake my assholishness about this as an unwillingness to listen to others.  But the second I get unsolicited advice when I'm innocently eating my lunch or snack, I want to throat punch a motherfucker. 

As I read this, I realize I may be over-reacting :D  Or over-sensitive.  Something.  This probably shouldn't rile me up the way it does!

FTR:  I've never actually punched anyone, in the throat, junk, or any other location.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 15, 2012, 01:58:55 PM
I tease coworkers about their food. One of the undergrad boys eats things like 3 burgers from McDonalds for lunch...I tease him for his "nutritious" lunches. I hope people don't think I am being an asshole.

I think people who comment on others' food choices are assholes.  Sorry, but "nutritious" sounds judgmental.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 15, 2012, 02:06:56 PM
I think people who comment on others' food choices are assholes.  Sorry, but "nutritious" sounds judgmental.

Well it is judgemental.  ;) Who lives on a diet of burgers? He is lucky he doesn't have vitamin deficiency.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 15, 2012, 02:27:25 PM
so i spent the who ride home convincing myself to get on the treadmill just to watch master chef and the g-d tivo is not working, i spent 2-0 mins and still not working. i gave up. no run unless we hop in the BOB later. oh well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 15, 2012, 02:31:47 PM
:D

My thought, and I will tell people this when they start giving me diet advice, is that if I'm going to have cake, I'm going to have fucking cake.  Now, I don't like cake, so I might only eat the frosting, but it's not because of some health concern.  :D  Mostly, I don't give a shit what other people eat, I just want to punch someone when they tell me they know better than I do.  Because in like 99% of these encounters, they are spouting fad diet bullshit, and this also makes me think I'm smarter than they are in general (I'm kind of a dick like this). 

This is totally different from when I'm asking for info/advice.  Please don't mistake my assholishness about this as an unwillingness to listen to others.  But the second I get unsolicited advice when I'm innocently eating my lunch or snack, I want to throat punch a motherfucker. 

As I read this, I realize I may be over-reacting :D  Or over-sensitive.  Something.  This probably shouldn't rile me up the way it does!

FTR:  I've never actually punched anyone, in the throat, junk, or any other location.

This? Is why I swear we were separated at birth.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 15, 2012, 02:37:07 PM
Debba :D. Totally.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on June 15, 2012, 02:41:03 PM
I think people who comment on others' food choices are assholes. 

1.   Nothing makes my blood boil faster than comments on my food.  I will cut you!   >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 15, 2012, 02:51:44 PM
 :D

Yeah, if the elevator hadn't stopped it would have been dead silence and then, "What an interesting observation." That, or, "Just doing my part for the obesity epidemic!"
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 15, 2012, 02:57:54 PM

FTR:  I've never actually punched anyone, in the throat, junk, or any other location.

Maybe you should do this and claim it is your way of burning off calories.   Then thank them for the advice and workout.  :>D:


Another visit to the toddler gym again this morning.  The kids seem to be taking turns napping...one talks to the other then they get bored and nap just as the other wakes up for a chat.  I've been cleaning the house since it was getting gross.  Still plenty more to clean but I'm done.  We're dog sitting for a week and I'm really not looking forward to it.  It is a dog we owned for about 4 years then gave to some friends because he'd bark most of the night...which is NOT cool when babies are sleeping.  I'm guessing he'll still be up to his old tricks barking most of the night and we'll get little sleep.  Hopefully I'll be wrong.

I need to figure out a meal plan for dinner, too.  Gah, I need a professional chef that cleans up after themselves.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 15, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
Me three on the separated at birth thing. Except the ketchup on a burger thing. :yikes:

Mustard. Just mustard. No mayo. No ketchup. No A-1. No Heinz 57. Just plain ole delicious mustard.

I HATEHATEHATE when people comment on my food. Maybe it's just my personal demons. But now that I am eating my special diet, I DREAD having to eat at my family's house. "Oh why aren't you eating xyz?" Then on and on and on. VERY annoying. My brother still comments on my eating red meat when years ago I commented that I don't like to eat it all the time. I still eat it. But JEEZUS.. if I post a pic of a slice of brisket. he's like-  "Oh that can't be your plate! You just eat chicken!" Enough already!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 15, 2012, 03:19:44 PM
Me three on the separated at birth thing. Except the ketchup on a burger thing. :yikes:

Mustard. Just mustard. No mayo. No ketchup. No A-1. No Heinz 57. Just plain ole delicious mustard.

I HATEHATEHATE when people comment on my food. Maybe it's just my personal demons. But now that I am eating my special diet, I DREAD having to eat at my family's house. "Oh why aren't you eating xyz?" Then on and on and on. VERY annoying. My brother still comments on my eating red meat when years ago I commented that I don't like to eat it all the time. I still eat it. But JEEZUS.. if I post a pic of a slice of brisket. he's like-  "Oh that can't be your plate! You just eat chicken!" Enough already!

Heh.  My DH likes to tell my dad (the non-openminded cattle rancher) that I'm a vegetarian because I eat mostly chicken.  That gets him all riled up. 

FTR, I have no problem with people who eat meat, or don't eat meat.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 15, 2012, 05:22:39 PM
Heh.  My DH likes to tell my dad (the non-openminded cattle rancher) that I'm a vegetarian because I eat mostly chicken.

"What do you mean you don't eat meat? That's okay.. I make lamb!"  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 15, 2012, 06:44:49 PM
"What do you mean you don't eat meat? That's okay.. I make lamb!"  :D

:D  Apparently the only thing that is really meat is something that comes from a cow! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 16, 2012, 09:29:38 AM
my coworker told me that i looked like i lost some weight  :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: she is the only person to notice. I am down, in the past 2 months, about 7 lbs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 16, 2012, 07:47:40 PM
Meri that is great!  How awesome someone has started noticing. 

A nice day at home today.  I got a 5.5 mile run in but still feel like a slacker.  I gave the dog, DH, and David a haircut this morning.  David looks so grown up now...cute but makes me a little sad at how quick they are growing.

They both said 'love you' to me and DH today.   :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 16, 2012, 09:02:26 PM
I did my 20-minute C25K day today. Went pretty well - I started later than I wanted to, but it worked out. Eating today was okay. Down a bit for the week, so I'll take it.

Meri, that's awesome that someone's noticed!

Bolloxd, I know how you feel. We had to buy a new car seat for Reid for DH's car today and we had to get one that converts from a harness to a booster. My little dude is forward facing in one car now. *sniffle*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 16, 2012, 09:33:46 PM
i am trying to pretend DD will be rear facing forever.............
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 17, 2012, 01:07:35 AM
I didn't long run today...mostly because it was 103. Our house right now is 90 degrees.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: moroccangirl on June 17, 2012, 11:44:48 AM
Meri you run a hundred miles a day! How can you need to lose weight??
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 17, 2012, 12:30:06 PM
Meri you run a hundred miles a day! How can you need to lose weight??
i know, that is the cruel cruel irony of it all. i detest when people say "omg, you run so much, you must be able to eat whatever you want"  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 17, 2012, 04:47:02 PM
i know, that is the cruel cruel irony of it all. i detest when people say "omg, you run so much, you must be able to eat whatever you want"  :grr:

I get that all the time, too.  My mother, who did not run, but was thin, heard all the time that she probably could eat anything she wanted and not gain weight.  Not true at all.

But, and this is the good news: does that not indicate that others do not think you have any need to lose weight?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 17, 2012, 08:27:02 PM
people tell me all the time i do not need to lose weight. I am within a healthy weight range for my height, however, in the past, i have been 10-12lbs below this (and by no means was i sick or unhealthy looking, but super awesome and fit looking) and that was the best running weight for me. I just feel so slow and sluggish and i want to wear shorts again without chubrub  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 17, 2012, 09:48:39 PM
i am trying to pretend DD will be rear facing forever.............

Yeah, it was weird today, we went to run errands and used DH's car so Reid could try out the seat and it was like, "Aww, he's all grown up!"

Tomorrow, though, it's back to Mommy's car, and RFing. And I have a freakin' Radian in my car, so he'll be RFing in that thing until middle school. But he's already 32ish pounds and about 38" tall. So there's no seat on the market that would keep him RFing other than a Radian, and that won't fit DH's Vibe, so...

Otherwise, back to the topic, I slept in this morning and ate.... eh, okay. We ended up going for burgers for dinner. DEEEEEElicious. Not the best choice, obviously, but we haven't been in months.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 17, 2012, 09:52:10 PM
I ate an entire TCBY shiver this evening.  And the worst part is, my stomach is a bit upset so it's going to be worse soon.  But I popped a Pepto and annihilated the sucker.  I've been craving TCBY for weeks.    :tombstone:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 18, 2012, 07:30:23 AM
mmmmmm TCBY. One opened up about 15 minutes from me and I have resisted so far. I dated a guy for four years whose mom owned one  :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 18, 2012, 09:36:13 AM
mmmmmm TCBY. One opened up about 15 minutes from me and I have resisted so far. I dated a guy for four years whose mom owned one  :heartbeat:

I looked at their website.  They really try to market it as very healthy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 18, 2012, 09:58:14 AM
no matter how they market it, they're calories I didn't need.  BUT I hadn't splurged like that in a while and don't expect to do it again for quite some time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 18, 2012, 10:06:04 AM
I did the same thing with the dq confetti cake blizzard. Luckily it sucked, so I only ate a couple of bites and tossed the rest.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on June 18, 2012, 10:19:57 AM
Saturday my husband said, "how much weight do you think you've gained since the accident?"   >:(  >:(  >:(

My clothes still fit, so I don't think I gained much.  But I've picked up some bad habits like grazing through a sleeve of graham crackers.  Today's the day I kiss those habits goodbye. 

I've been very committed to my PT exercises, which take 1.5 - 2 hours per day.  But I also want to get at least a half-hour on the bike trainer each day to start getting my endurance back. 

My big accomplishments for the weekend were stepping in and out of the shower (instead of sitting on the side of the tub to get in/out, and taking a 1-hour walk on an unpaved road.  It's  not hiking, but it's a start.

Yay to the 7 pounds Meri!   I know how horribly difficult it is for you to lose even one pound.   You are my hero. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 18, 2012, 10:57:47 AM
I looked at their website.  They really try to market it as very healthy.

It is pretty healthy...for desert. Frozen yogurt is better than most other options.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 18, 2012, 11:05:27 AM
Mini, yay! You're back! I've missed you in this thread. Glad to hear that the PT is going well - it does take commitment - good for you!

As usual, I failed to get up this morning.  :sigh: I suck. However, given last night's dinner, the scale wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 18, 2012, 11:11:10 AM
It is pretty healthy...for desert. Frozen yogurt is better than most other options.

As long as you keep the calories reasonable.  They are not encouraging that from the options that I found on dishes.  HUGE dishes only.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on June 18, 2012, 11:16:31 AM
Thanks Debba!   Snacking on DFC (carrots).  Interesting food item of the week is papaya.  I love papaya, but it's a big fruit so I have to eat a bunch of it every day until it's gone or it will go bad. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 18, 2012, 11:52:47 AM
I am not a fan of ripe papaya- but I do love green papaya in salads and such!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 18, 2012, 12:01:06 PM
Holy shit. So, I have to open all the mail for the department today (we take turns). It's going to take all day to sort and divvy up. I want chocolate like i've never wanted chocolate before. At the same time, I really want to be strong and NOT get chocolate, especially after last night's burger and fries extravaganza. But Oh MY GOD, the mail.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 18, 2012, 12:36:28 PM
Sometimes "fun" foods like chocolate help us get thru boring/undesireable tasks, huh?  I know I do it. 

Hold off, if you can, and schedule some "fun" stuff as breaks.  Check in on us, look at pinterest (do you do pinterest), get up and walk around, something...  Maybe that will help?  Yesterday I had the same thing, where all I wanted was a bucket of M&Ms.  I ended up buying a single serving bag, and then lo and behold, got distracted talking to my mom, and didn't eat them.  They are at home now, and I'm hoping my DH will snarf them up before I get there.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 18, 2012, 12:47:31 PM
That's the thing - I can lurk here while I'm opening mail, date stamping it, and sorting. And seriously, by the time I'm done, this pile of transcripts is going to be almost up to my neck, I think. While sitting. BLAH. And that's all I'm going to do today - open envelopes, date stamp, sort, and file.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 18, 2012, 01:05:07 PM
That's the thing - I can lurk here while I'm opening mail, date stamping it, and sorting. And seriously, by the time I'm done, this pile of transcripts is going to be almost up to my neck, I think. While sitting. BLAH. And that's all I'm going to do today - open envelopes, date stamp, sort, and file.

Strangely I really like doing that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 18, 2012, 01:11:52 PM
Most of the time I don't mind, but I'm covering for someone who is on vacation and didn't bother to tell us she'd be gone, and the volume is just insane.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 18, 2012, 01:29:03 PM
So I am back to enforcing austerity measures today so that I can drop last 5 pounds.  Anyone want to join me?

I will not eat any snacks other than DFCs this afternoon, I plan to have a bowl of soup for dinner and then 1 100 Calorie snack this evening and nothing more.  It usually takes my body about 24 hours to realize that the false hunger pains won't work.  I swear there's a difference b/w the uncomfortable 'false' hunger pains my body transmits when it just wants more food b/c it's used to it vs. the easily tolerated hunger I feel when I don't eat too much at night.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on June 18, 2012, 01:40:54 PM
So I am back to enforcing austerity measures today so that I can drop last 5 pounds.  Anyone want to join me?

I will not eat any snacks other than DFCs this afternoon, I plan to have a bowl of soup for dinner and then 1 100 Calorie snack this evening and nothing more.  It usually takes my body about 24 hours to realize that the false hunger pains won't work.  I swear there's a difference b/w the uncomfortable 'false' hunger pains my body transmits when it just wants more food b/c it's used to it vs. the easily tolerated hunger I feel when I don't eat too much at night.

I'm with you!   

It usually takes me more like 3-5 days of eating clean to get past sugar/carb cravings that my body tries to pass of as hunger.    Day 1 I usually don't even feel hungry, it's Days 2 &3 that are usually the worst. 

My challenge this week is that DH is going away for the weekend, for the first time since the accident.  So I'll be solo taking care of myself and the pets for three days.  The anxiety is making me think "ooh, I can get pizza one night and Chinese the next!"  Yeah, then I'll feel anxious, fat and guilty.  Dumb that my first thought is always self-medicating by overeating.  I already put off Day 1 until today because I knew we were going out for Father's Day at a BBQ joint last night (pulled pork sandwich, potato salad, and fries swiped from DH's plate).  So I can't play that card again to allow a binge next weekend as appealing as the thought is.     Maybe I'll plan a non-binge treat like sushi (which DH doesn't like) that will satisfy my need to pacify my anxiety with food. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 18, 2012, 02:01:06 PM
I am in... ish. Well, I know I have at least two big splurge meals this week (maybe 3!) so I'm trying to be extra good on the inbetweens. I forgot my breakfast so it was 4 prunes and a handful of pb puffins. 2 hardboiled eggs as a snack in a minute. Lunch is a salad and soup. 2 more hardboiled eggs or greek yogurt + berries later. Haven't decided on dinner yet.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 18, 2012, 02:19:17 PM
I'm in. I dodged the "OMG, I need something to take my mind of this mountain of paper" chocolate craving - I was too lazy to leave my cube at lunch - so I should be okay for today. I say "okay," because our planned dinner tonight is frozen pizza. I'm going for acupuncture this afternoon, so DH is picking Reid up from school and then would have to cook, too, and that can get complicated with Reid.

I have almonds and string cheese for an afternoon snack. I will not eat an entire pizza by myself, and I will stuff myself full of DFW until about 3 PM, at which point I'll have to be careful or I'll wet my pants while laying on the acupuncture table.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 18, 2012, 02:21:06 PM
I have been finding that flavored seltzer really helps make the DFW chugging much more enjoyable and satisfying.

Polar has some crazy new flavors out.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 18, 2012, 03:13:57 PM
welcome back Mini :)

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 18, 2012, 03:17:09 PM
I LOVE Polar flavored seltzer.

And glad you ladies are in.  I found that pizza is ok if I ate one or two slices and filled up on salad w/ no dressing otherwise.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 18, 2012, 03:19:22 PM
Okay, so question for y'all. I'm going to need a bathing suit relatively soon. My current one is kinda big. Not huge, but it's loose in places (this is good), and there's always a threat that Reid will tug and pull the front down. Which would be not as big a deal in my parents' pool, but definitely embarrassing during swim class.

I've been looking at suits and I know a lot of you liked the Land's End suits. I like them, too. But... BUT.... y'all, I'm a 38G. Even if I lose 10 pounds between now and vacation, there is no guarantee that any of that will be my boobs. I don't even know where to start. Should I just get a suit in my normal shirt size? Nothing is out there in my bra size, except maybe old lady suits.

Bah. Stupid boobs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 18, 2012, 03:19:58 PM
Oh yeah, I'm back on austerity measures as well.  I've been doing so well for the past 3 weeks, and this weekend I was away with friends and ate and drank way too much.   It was a great time and there was a blueberry pie.  And hamburgers.  And a variety of beers and spirits.

It's amazing how 3 days of splurges can make you feel like you un-did 3 weeks of austerity.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 18, 2012, 04:52:39 PM
Debba, not sure if this helps but although I lost like 8 pounds none of them came off of my boobs yet.   :grr: 

It's amazing how 3 days of splurges can make you feel like you un-did 3 weeks of austerity.   

Yes!  But in 3 days I think I'll be back to not minding the austerity.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 18, 2012, 04:55:16 PM
Debba, not sure if this helps but although I lost like 8 pounds none of them came off of my boobs yet.   :grr: 

Yes!  But in 3 days I think I'll be back to not minding the austerity.  :)


Yeah, that's why I'm struggling. I have no idea what to do - my boobs are likely to be one of the last places I lose weight, and finding a bathing suit in my bra size is close to impossible, or they're ridiculously ugly. So do I just get one in my normal t-shirt size?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on June 18, 2012, 05:04:13 PM
Sign me up for Newfound Austerity as well!

I've been making terrible choices for the last 2 3 weeks, and it's starting to show. Couple that with my curent frowsy hair, and I'm not feeling too swell about myself.



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on June 18, 2012, 05:08:01 PM
I am embracing an AA mantra: one day at a time. I am going to make good choices today. I'm not worrying about tomorrow or next week, just today. My goal is to stay on plan all day. That's it. I will tackle tomorrow when it gets here.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on June 18, 2012, 05:11:16 PM
Debba, not sure if this helps but although I lost like 8 pounds none of them came off of my boobs yet.   :grr: 

Why is it this way?  Why?!?!?

I have lost a few pounds.  I know this because my pants are looser and I went another notch tighter on my belt.  I think I have already lost some off my boobs.  I don't wanna be a AA again!  I LIKE being a B!  On the other hand, a flat-ish stomach again would be really nice.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 18, 2012, 06:27:21 PM
I am embracing an AA mantra: one day at a time. I am going to make good choices today. I'm not worrying about tomorrow or next week, just today. My goal is to stay on plan all day. That's it. I will tackle tomorrow when it gets here.



I do this. But meal to meal. Snack to snack.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on June 18, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
My boobs are usually the first place I lose weight.  DH was not happy about that aspect of my weight loss.

I've finished dinner and am still hungry.  Dfw  til bedtime. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 18, 2012, 07:11:41 PM
Good luck to ya'll!  I know I lack that will power during PMS so I'm gonna accept it for awhile and focus on exercise.    I had 2 huge bags of cotton candy yesterday and 3 chocolate covered doughnuts today.   :sigh:

I also lost all of my boob weight first so I'm jealous.  I'm currently wearing the entirely wrong size bra because I've changed so much I don't know what size I am...30C was my last measurement.  Not an easy size to find.

I'm hoping to get a run in late this evening because I have to sit through a wastewater treatment continuing ed class tomorrow.  Geez I am dreading it, but need it to maintain my certification.  At least it's free.  It's an all day thing so I won't have a chance to get much exercise in unless we're dismissed early.



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 18, 2012, 07:14:58 PM
Yeah, it's not fair.  I have too much boobage and would happily share.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on June 18, 2012, 07:23:46 PM
Yeah, it's not fair.  I have too much boobage and would happily share.

Well, I don't want any MORE; I just don't want any LESS. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 18, 2012, 08:10:22 PM
Naturally, tonight being Eliza's birthday (she's FIVE!), we had to go to Friendly's.

There isn't a hell of a lot to eat at Friendly's if you are trying to make good choices! I did ok, I had a cup of soup and half a turkey supermelt sandwich, but I had to plan my whole day around that and still just barely stayed on plan.

Now I'm going to bed at 8pm. Woot.

I was in friendly's here in town the other day, first time in5 years. The place looked so depressing... I thought they were going out of business.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 18, 2012, 08:35:26 PM
I haven't been in a Friendly's in forever.  They opened one in South Florida somewhere and a friend dragged me there.  Not my thing.  But you deserve HUGE kudos for making decent choices there, Bonita!

I had a bowl and half of broccoli soup with some light cheese thrown in.  (Will have my 100 calorie snack in a bit.)  This is the stuff:

(http://yourvegangirlfriend.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/broccoli_soup-1.jpg?w=490)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 18, 2012, 08:35:46 PM
Lots of Friendly's have closed.   But I've noticed that they keep the Friendly's shrubbery well-maintained along the Mass Pike westbound in Wilbraham. 

Bonita -- the important thing is that the DQ in Ghent is still thriving.  Whew.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 18, 2012, 08:37:33 PM
You know what I'm talking about?   

(http://homepage.mac.com/kefkafloyd/valleyroads/images/90w_friendlys.jpg)

Great.  Now I'm thinking about Cone Head Sundaes...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 18, 2012, 08:46:54 PM
Wait, what? Eliza is FIVE? WTF? She's like... 6 months old!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 18, 2012, 10:46:24 PM
Wait, what? Eliza is FIVE? WTF? She's like... 6 months old!

That's what I was thinking!  Happy Birthday Eliza!


I'm also jealous of you ladies that go to bed early.  Hell I'm lucky if the kids are in bed at 8:30...it is usually closer to 9 on days they nap.

I did get 4 miles done - 2 outside & 2 on the treadmill. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on June 19, 2012, 06:40:19 AM
You know what I'm talking about?   

(http://homepage.mac.com/kefkafloyd/valleyroads/images/90w_friendlys.jpg)

Great.  Now I'm thinking about Cone Head Sundaes...

I was hoping this would be a pic of the DQ. (I heard a rumor it's open year round now!)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 19, 2012, 07:21:22 AM
The one in GB? That one is ancient. We went there all the time when we were kids.... haven't been there in ages.

No, that one is closed.  Those in Lee, Lenox, and Pittsfield are still open, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 19, 2012, 07:50:49 AM
i was hoping for a stellar day of running, but DD has been having odd symptoms on and off and woke up with a fever and i will have to probably take her in, drs office opens in 9 minutes.....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on June 19, 2012, 08:59:05 AM
Hope she's better soon, Meri!

CH babies grow up too quick.  It must be stopped.  I have a hard time believing Bonita's younger daughter is 5!

Big accomplishment - driving to work with my manual transmission car.  It meant 25 minutes of clutching every minute or so, then 15 minutes walking from my parking space.  ROAR!!  This afternoon will be another challenge - walking to the car, driving to PT, walking from parking, then somehow getting home after. 

Funny how things I took for granted as an easy day a few months ago are now major accomplishments.  Another big accomplishment this week is stepping in and out of the shower without sitting on the edge of the tub.

Was hungry yesterday without my security blanket of snack crackers, but survived.  I wish I could have a few crackers, but I know once the sleeve is open it's empty.  And heaven forbid I buy a box of crackers with them all jumbled up in one package! 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 09:02:38 AM
Good for you, Mini!

I took the train to work this morning - it was actually really nice! It's about a 10-minute walk from the station to my office. Not too bad, but OMG, it's sticky and hot out there. Not sure how to deal with that part of things. I guess I'll have to (have to. Hah! poor me) buy some skorts so I can get a breeze but not the chafing. Darn.
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Post by: diablita on June 19, 2012, 09:32:13 AM
Good morning.  I was really good about my eating last night and just felt better overall, even going into this morning.

Today is my dad's birthday and I bought a cherry pie for his 'birthday cake' because he'll love it and I won't.  I'm making food that they love and will probably eat my usual broccoli soup.  Maybe I'll eat like one crash hot potato.
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 09:47:28 AM
What is a crash hot potato?
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Post by: diablita on June 19, 2012, 09:51:46 AM
Crash Hot Potato recipe (http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2008/06/crash-hot-potatoes/)
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on June 19, 2012, 09:53:38 AM
What is a crash hot potato? (oops I see the link now! thanks Diablita)

Mini, good for you...the little milestones add up.

I am still lurking....not posting much.  Doing ok on eating and working out but not seeing movement on the scale. I am not overly worried since I haven't really been dieting per se. I started working with a trainer once a week (I think I mentioned it a while back) and I am really feeling and seeing the results. My shoulder is more and more stable, I am getting some strength back and feeling very good overall. We lift heavy...which I am loving. Lots of squats, dead lifts, and military presses combined with jump roping, fast bursts etc.  My running has improved quite a bit as a result.

Anyway...I hope you all have a good day!  :lambie: (my new favorite smilie or all occasions)
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Post by: VP of Tea on June 19, 2012, 09:58:42 AM
I'm jumping back in too!

When DH and I were on the cruise, we were discussing how we'd both go on a limited austerity package once back, so I had to chuckle at y'all calling it that too. I told him I didn't need to lose any weight per se, just firm up, but that was before I stood on the scale.  :yikes: I am now heavier than I have been since I was 25 (which was my heaviest year ever).

Even before the cruise, I had been drinking lots of soda and alcoholic beverages, and eating chocolate and potato chips like it was going out of style. So no more of that, snacks are now all fruit (easy to do this time of year) and my new rule is that I have to have breakfast. This morning was grape nuts with fresh strawberries and oj.

But the biggest change is that I am running again. Went for the first time since January on Sunday, and will be going again today. I walked/ran and it was slow and ugly and I'm way more sore than I thought I'd be, but getting started is the only way to get back intot he swing of things.
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 09:59:18 AM
OMG. Those look delicious!!! I must make them!

I resisted the chocolate yesterday and dozed off on the acupuncture table. And then crashed *hard* last night. Something about having needles jammed into my legs seems to wear me out. So I didn't get up this morning, which means I suck. But, I'm going to the gym tonight. And getting up tomorrow, dammit. I'm setting multiple alarms. I'm tired of being down on myself because I didn't get out of bed.  :grr:

Still befuddled by the thought of buying a bathing suit, but I have some time before I have to order, so we'll see what happens in the next few weeks.
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Post by: VP of Tea on June 19, 2012, 10:04:49 AM
OMG. Those look delicious!!! I must make them!

I'm tired of being down on myself because I didn't get out of bed.  :grr:

I agree about the potatoes!

I also have a hard time exercising in the morning. It's usually not that hard for me to get out of bed, UNLESS I know it is to go exercise. If I can just relax and do my thing for a while, I'm ok. I should just get up an hour earlier so I can have my relaxing out of the way before exercising.  :!:
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Post by: onawhim on June 19, 2012, 10:12:51 AM
I have made those potatoes and they are amazing
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 10:18:01 AM
I agree about the potatoes!

I also have a hard time exercising in the morning. It's usually not that hard for me to get out of bed, UNLESS I know it is to go exercise. If I can just relax and do my thing for a while, I'm ok. I should just get up an hour earlier so I can have my relaxing out of the way before exercising.  :!:

Yeah, I can get up for work, but there's just something about getting up to exercise... If I were going to get up and relax first, though, that would mean waking up at 4, and that's just bordering on the insane! :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 19, 2012, 10:29:59 AM
Crash Hot Potato recipe (http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2008/06/crash-hot-potatoes/)

I made these the other night.  OMG.  I went easy on the oil, but they were DELICIOUS. 
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Post by: Courtney on June 19, 2012, 10:31:14 AM
Mini, you will get thru today with all your driving and walking!  RAWR!!   :fiery:
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Post by: merigayle on June 19, 2012, 10:32:18 AM
Good job VP!!!
Go Mini Go!

DD has a bladder infection, no school for her today because of the fever :( I feel bad being so selfish, but i had 15 miles planned for today and moved my schedule all around. oh well. she is going to the neighbor's but not until 2pm. Will try to talk her into a stroller run or if not, me hopping on the TM for an hour. She feels totally fine, but is peeing a lot (accidents too) and has a fever.

I wake up at 5 and get on the TM around 5:30-45, i do like to relax. For my 6am runs on the weekend, i wake up at 5am to spend an hour relaxing, eating, etc.
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 10:43:19 AM
Awwww, poor Z. That sucks for all of you.
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Post by: caito on June 19, 2012, 10:49:42 AM
Order a bunch of different size bathing suits and then send back the ones you don't want.  I do this and find it's far less traumatizing than trying on suits in a store, and less frustrating than ordering 1 suit to discover it doesn't fit.   The credit card statement can look a bit shocking, but it evens out quickly if you return the ones you don't want promptly.
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 10:54:08 AM
Good idea - I just got an email from Land's End, too, about a sale. Yay!
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Post by: merigayle on June 19, 2012, 10:54:52 AM
Caito is wise :) I am dressed and waiting for DD to get in the stroller. She'd rather watch tv, where are her priorities????  :D
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Post by: MiniDriver on June 19, 2012, 11:17:12 AM
Welcome VP!   Cruises are a great wake-up call.  It's practically impossible to maintain/lose on a cruise. 

I want to strip naked and roll around in those potatoes.  I'm gonna make some this weekend, with garlic-infused olive oil.  I'm salivating already!
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 11:24:51 AM
Yeah, I think the average weight gain on a cruise is 10 pounds? I read that somewhere. I can totally believe it.
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Post by: Ice Cream on June 19, 2012, 11:28:04 AM
All that salt in those potatoes...
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Post by: diablita on June 19, 2012, 11:33:27 AM
Caito is wise :) I am dressed and waiting for DD to get in the stroller. She'd rather watch tv, where are her priorities????  :D

Poor girl.  J had a UTI a few months ago.  I took her out in the stroller and brought along a blanket.  It's easy to get the chills when you have a systemic infection and the movement from the stroller seemed to trigger that.

I hope she feels better quickly with some abx on board!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on June 19, 2012, 12:34:38 PM
Yeah, I think the average weight gain on a cruise is 10 pounds? I read that somewhere. I can totally believe it.

I knew I had to change things before the cruise, but I was not going to worry about it until after. I only gained 2 lbs on the cruise itself, but I gained more than that since January. It's not too bad, but it's a trend I need to reverse. Plus, it's not just the weight, my body fat % has shot up too.

I had half a salad with chicken for lunch. Will have the rest around 4:30 or so, so I'm not hungry when I drive home and blow off the run. (I tell you what, seeing those numbers on the scale makes me less likely to blow off the run!).

Poor Z! My little niece who is only 15 months already has had 2 UTI's. Are some people just prone to them? I have never had one.
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Post by: teetime on June 19, 2012, 12:48:40 PM
All that salt in those potatoes...

And?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/we-only-think-we-know-the-truth-about-salt.html?pagewanted=all (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/we-only-think-we-know-the-truth-about-salt.html?pagewanted=all)
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 12:51:28 PM
It's funny, the number on the scale doesn't work as motivation at 5 AM, at least, not for me.
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Post by: diablita on June 19, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
VP, yes.  I believe some people are more prone to them.  And young girls tend to get them when they're potty training because they don't always understand the importance behind the good hygiene we try to teach (no pun intended) or don't have the fine motor skills to implement sometimes.
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Post by: VP of Tea on June 19, 2012, 12:57:21 PM
It's funny, the number on the scale doesn't work as motivation at 5 AM, at least, not for me.

I am with you on that. 5 am is the absolute earliest I do not consider 'not yet morning'. Funny thing is, it used to be 6:30 and I now usually get up around 6.

Diablita, my niece is still in diapers! I feel bad for her, though apparently it doesn't really bother her.
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 01:02:42 PM
It can also be an issue in diapers, if they're not changed relatively promptly.
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Post by: merigayle on June 19, 2012, 01:21:34 PM
VP, yes.  I believe some people are more prone to them.  And young girls tend to get them when they're potty training because they don't always understand the importance behind the good hygiene we try to teach (no pun intended) or don't have the fine motor skills to implement sometimes.
this is what the dr said-- poor wiping skills + bathing suits + bubble baths. She was very upset over no bubble baths :( DD has been potty trained for almost a year, but lately, has been more independant with wiping, etc, even at school, she uses the bathroom on her own, will tell them to check her wiping a little more.

we did get out in the stroller. i had to kinda force her out, but she enjoyed it and ate handfuls and handfuls of black raspberries. I could not pick them fast enough!

When we went to Vegas for our wedding, we were there for about a week and i gained 10lbs, even with all that walking!!!! and i do not even eat meat!
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Post by: Ice Cream on June 19, 2012, 01:34:33 PM
And?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/we-only-think-we-know-the-truth-about-salt.html?pagewanted=all (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/we-only-think-we-know-the-truth-about-salt.html?pagewanted=all)

I do not care for salty food, and I do not care for water retention.
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Post by: Run Amok on June 19, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
I do not care for salty food, and I do not care for water retention.

The potatoes themselves would do me more harm in the water retention dept than the salt. I don't find much difference in salt I add to my food. Soy sauce, for some reason, seems to really cause me to bloat up. That and anything high in stach (which makes sense). But, table salt notsomuch. I guess I'm just fortunate. The good thing about making a recipe is that you can adjust the salt to your liking. I LOVE salt.
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 02:38:20 PM
I love salt, but when I eat things high in sodium and preservatives, I retain water like nobody's business. >:(
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Post by: teetime on June 19, 2012, 03:00:20 PM
I get super lightheaded without enough salt in my diet.  But I also sweat like a hog ... literally, my sweat puddle will out gross men double my size in any spin class I take.  I guess that I just assumed Icecream (with her running) would have no salt issues at all. 

But Run Amok, I agree with you totally on the carbs.  My tummy bloat from too much bread or sweets isn't really cured by a good run.  Same for Aleve for whatever reason.
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Post by: Courtney on June 19, 2012, 03:28:40 PM
I get super lightheaded without enough salt in my diet.  But I also sweat like a hog ... literally, my sweat puddle will out gross men double my size in any spin class I take.  I guess that I just assumed Icecream (with her running) would have no salt issues at all. 

But Run Amok, I agree with you totally on the carbs.  My tummy bloat from too much bread or sweets isn't really cured by a good run.  Same for Aleve for whatever reason.

I'm sweaty like that too :D  What can ya do? 

Getting too much salt is not even a remote concern for me, since my BP is always really low (like sometimes too low) and I sweat so damn much.  And potatoes don't seem to be an issue for me, and are really my main form of carbs/starch right now.  So you can pry them out of my cold dead hands! 
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Post by: merigayle on June 19, 2012, 04:17:49 PM
I do not sweat a lot, but the only thing that really bloats me up is Chinese food and i am not sure it is just soy sauce because we use a lot of shoyu (fermented soy sauce) at home.
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 04:19:16 PM
I sweat like a pig, and turn bright freakin' red when I exercise, too.
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Post by: VP of Tea on June 19, 2012, 04:26:03 PM
I have never noticed bloating/water retention based on salt, thank goodnesss. Like Courtney, I have low BP (not too low though) so I'm just not even remotely worried about salt. And I looooooove potatoes!

I turn red and sweat, but not excessively (at least I don't think so).
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 04:30:18 PM
Yeah, my BP is in the low range, too, so I'm not worried about salt having an effect on my health - just on the scale. I turn BRIGHT red when I work out. Like, was less than a mile into a 5K, feeling just fine, and a lady in her 70s told me we still had a long way to go and I needed to not push so hard.  :fiery: :-[
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Post by: merigayle on June 19, 2012, 04:31:55 PM
was told by a dr to eat more salt, LOL.
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Post by: Run Amok on June 19, 2012, 05:07:59 PM
I love salt, but when I eat things high in sodium and preservatives, I retain water like nobody's business. >:(

Salting a dish at home makes no diff to me in the water retention department... but salty processed foods do.
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 05:11:10 PM
Salting a dish at home makes no diff to me in the water retention department... but salty processed foods do.

Yup. I notice a huge difference on the scale the next day when I eat processed stuff vs. not.
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Post by: VP of Tea on June 19, 2012, 05:17:36 PM
Salting a dish at home makes no diff to me in the water retention department... but salty processed foods do.

I don't eat a lot of that, so maybe that's why I have never noticed it. (Insert sanctimonious angel smiley here...)
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Post by: Courtney on June 19, 2012, 05:29:39 PM
I sweat like a pig, and turn bright freakin' red when I exercise, too.

Again, we are twins :D 

I did a workout yesterday...  I ran for 30 min, then did my trainer workout.  I was DRIPPING sweat, and no one else was really sweating. 

I just tell myself I'm effective at cooling off.  There's really  nothing I can do about it. 
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Post by: debbatx on June 19, 2012, 05:35:27 PM
Yep. I'm heading out in about 20 minutes to walk to the train station. It's about a 10-minute walk. I will be beet red and dripping by the time I get there. Blech.
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Post by: Bolloxd on June 19, 2012, 10:20:49 PM
You ladies have been chatty today!  Those potatoes look so yummy...going onto my to do list.  I'm lucky that I don't really sweat a lot unless I've been running/exercising for a long time and I glow rather than turn red.  I'm guessing my generally poor circulation is why I don't turn red like others....my feet are like ice blocks even in June.

VP, Mini, Mouse, glad ya'll are back in the thread and getting motivated again.
Meri, I hope your DD is better soon. 

I spent most of the day in waste water training.  The only woman there.  It was informative & boring at the same time...I can't concentrate that long.  I was/am SO grateful that Lizard Mixture met me for a very last minute lunch.  We tried out a neat little 50s diner with good food and yummy strawberry milkshakes.

So, yeah, my eating hasn't been on top form today.  I am PMSing so bad and have started cramping.  Boo.  Planning to go run an upcoming 5k course in the morning with DH & a friend.
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Post by: merigayle on June 20, 2012, 07:26:05 AM
PMSing too. Period due Saturday. Please remind me to not get on the scale until after my period!!!!  :wah:
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Post by: MiniDriver on June 20, 2012, 08:40:06 AM
I am having a Magic Microbe patented "looking GOOD" day today.  Wearing a favorite sundress I couldn't fit into last year, with my ruinously expensive White House Black Market Jacket.  The jacket has already paid for itself, since it's my keep at the office and throw on over everything summer jacket.  W00T!

DH kindly walked to my PT's office yesterday afternoon so he could drive me home.  He knew I'd be sore and tired.   :heartbeat:  :heartbeat:  :heartbeat:  Drove in to work this morning with no problems.  W00T! 

Snacked on a few crackers last night, but stopped myself at somewhere between 5-10.  Not eating the whole sleeve is an amazing accomplishment.  Had an extra piece of cheese and a skinny cow chocolate peanut butter yummlicious, but that didn't put me above planned calories so I guess I did ok. 
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Post by: VP of Tea on June 20, 2012, 09:17:34 AM
Yay Mini for Patented Magic Microbe Looking Good Day! And for your DH picking you up at PT, awwwwww.

I went for my run yesterday as planned. Right now my runs aren't actual runs yet, I walk run. Yesterday I'd run to the next 1/2 mile marker, then walk for a bit, then run to the next half mile marker, repeat for 3 miles. I didn't have a watch so I couldn't time the walking bit.

When I got home, I wasn't hungry, so I just drank my (large) smoothie I had made that morning but forgotten to bring to work.

Today I had grape nuts, oj and strawberries for breakfast, and a skim frapuccino on the way in. And I couldn't remember my fitday log in yesterday so I created a new one, and now I can't seem to remember that one! I think I'm giving up on fitday.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on June 20, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
Morning.


Mini! Looking good.  I wish I could wear summer dresses...it is too cold here in the summer.  >:(   Although so far this summer is shaping up to be nicer than the last 2 summers..so there is hope.

yesterday was a rest day. This morning I will do a run before work. (as soon as I am done posting).  Feeling good these days. I cannot get over how much better (stable) my shoulder has gotten! Woohoo.

On my days off I forget to eat sometimes until noon or even later, then DH and I will have a nice brunch and later dinner. I usually hit my calories just right, and feel better because I am able to eat a satisfying meal, rather than piece-mealing (no pun intended)  my calories into small unsatisfying mini meals on work days. Durning work I am usually hungry, and eating small amounts of food all the time.  Weird.  I know I am a boredom eater, but I am not bored at work, yet I think about food all.the.time. when I am there. Most people I know have a harder time on the weekends.
What about you all?

Have a good day everyone!


oh, and I am in the redfaced and sweaty group.   :D
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 10:28:44 AM
Good morning, everyone! Glad to hear everyone's doing well! I slept in this morning, but had an ass-kicking workout last night, so I'm okay with it. I'll be lucky if I can raise my arms over my head later. Oof. Took the train again this morning, which I LOVE, so had a nice 10-minute stroll from the station to work. Dragged out a skort I'd bought last year and it still fits (yay!), so I wore that this morning. I need about 10 more.

I need a better breakfast idea. I think I'm going to go back to making smoothies most mornings. Right now, I'm just snarfing down a mini-bagel in the car on the way to drop off Reid, and it's getting me through to my mid-morning snack, but eh. It's not a *bad* option, I just think I can do better. I'll have to contemplate my options.
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Post by: VP of Tea on June 20, 2012, 10:59:51 AM
I  :heartbeat: smoothies. I typically make them my snack, not breakfast. I usually do 6 oz of yogurt (that's how much my little yogurt jars hold), 6 oz oj and fruit by eye balling. Today I used one whole peach. Because I don't use ice, it doesn't matter if I don't drink them right away.

Mmm Mmm good!
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Post by: caito on June 20, 2012, 11:05:40 AM
Good morning, everyone! Glad to hear everyone's doing well! I slept in this morning, but had an ass-kicking workout last night, so I'm okay with it. I'll be lucky if I can raise my arms over my head later. Oof. Took the train again this morning, which I LOVE, so had a nice 10-minute stroll from the station to work. Dragged out a skort I'd bought last year and it still fits (yay!), so I wore that this morning. I need about 10 more.

I need a better breakfast idea. I think I'm going to go back to making smoothies most mornings. Right now, I'm just snarfing down a mini-bagel in the car on the way to drop off Reid, and it's getting me through to my mid-morning snack, but eh. It's not a *bad* option, I just think I can do better. I'll have to contemplate my options.

Slap some peanut butter on that bagel!   Add a banana and some walnuts.  And maybe even some greek yogurt.   Go ahead and have a big breakfast.   It helps prevent you from being starving by lunch, which for me is a trigger for cravings.
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 11:58:19 AM
The portability of a peanut butter bagel is suspect in my reality. That's why I'm revisiting the smoothie idea. I was doing really well with them, but then kinda burned out. I'm ready to go back.
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Post by: merigayle on June 20, 2012, 12:25:09 PM
cut the bagel in half, put pb'ed sides together and wrap.

i ran with DD this morning and will run again before picking her up, HOWEVER, i left my lunch and snack at home  :sigh: can i make it another hour without keeling over from the hunger? i may eat one clif bar sample.
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 12:32:42 PM
It's more that Reid is likely to steal it. :)
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Post by: merigayle on June 20, 2012, 12:48:16 PM
It's more that Reid is likely to steal it. :)
ha! that is why you should eat it in the car after you drop him off :D
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 12:48:54 PM
Oh, he'll grab it out of my hands when I'm taking him to the car. :)
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Post by: merigayle on June 20, 2012, 12:55:52 PM
Oh, he'll grab it out of my hands when I'm taking him to the car. :)
do you not have a purse or work bag  :confused:


:D
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 01:02:55 PM
It's usually already in the car - DH takes my stuff to my car and backs it out of the garage for me, since our garage clickers are dead. He leaves. I fix my coffee and get breakfast for me and Reid, then we head out the door. If Reid is feeling clingy or lazy, I'm usually walking out the door carrying a travel cup of coffee, my breakfast, Reid's loveys, Reid himself, and any "extras" that didn't make it to the car - today it was Reid's shoes since the thought of wearing them before he got to school caused a meltdown.

I can put a smoothie in a spill-proof cup for me and Reid. I can't put a bagel in a steal-proof container, unfortunately.
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Post by: caito on June 20, 2012, 01:28:57 PM
Put the pb bagel in your bag before your DH takes your bag to the car?    :D
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Post by: merigayle on June 20, 2012, 01:36:09 PM
Put the pb bagel in your bag before your DH takes your bag to the car?    :D
exactly! you are NOT trying hard enough :D :D :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2012, 01:49:11 PM
My smoothie breakfasts are tasty.  I love them.  They keep me full until about 11:30.  If I'm working out at lunch, I'll eat something else, like a banana, to hold me over.  Otherwise, I just go get lunch/eat lunch when I get hungry.
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 01:51:10 PM
Or, I could just make a smoothie, which is loaded up with fruit and yogurt.
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2012, 02:37:38 PM
Or, I could just make a smoothie, which is loaded up with fruit and yogurt.

Did I tell you the mason jar thing? 

Regular (non wide mouth) mason jars fit right on to most blenders.  I blend mine up in that (it helps me not make too much), and then I don't have extra dishes to do.  I bough some plastic lids for my mason jars (at walmart) and they are PERFECT for taking to/from places.  I actually need to get some more.  I only have 4.  At any given time, one is in the dishwasher at work, one is dirty, one is hiding out in my car (clean) because I forgot to take it in, and the other one inevitably has something else in it (right now it's home made ranch dressing). 
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 02:38:41 PM
Wait, what? How does taht work?
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2012, 02:43:24 PM
It's super cool.  Most blenders are the right size..

(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQCIvX2ntQnTrDD-AfRLL1T3QLIuWCqxy_id5SJzsruOYysG2pd)

My blender ring thing (that holds the blade, and the pitcher screws into it) come off my blender, so I just screw it and the blade right onto my mason jar full of smoothie stuff, pop it onto the blender, and go.  Then when I'm done I wash up the blade/ring real quick and it's all done. 
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Post by: Bolloxd on June 20, 2012, 02:44:58 PM
Oh maybe make 3 bagels at a time?  A decoy for Reid, one for DH to take in a bag to the car, and one for yourself incase you forget to put one in the bag.   OR just keep the PB & bagels in your car and make it after dropping of Reid.  Or, yes, a smoothie sounds easier.   :hah:

Mini, glad you're have a such a great day.  Yay for the big accomplishments!
Mouse,  glad the shoulder is feeling stronger.  I know it's been bugging you trying to get the strength back into it.
VP, at least you're out there!  Those walks will be runs before you know it.
Meri, stay away from the scale til after AF because it is all lies!!


We managed 3.2 miles this morning with a friend while my mom watched the twins.  This was her first time babysitting when they weren't actually napping.  All went perfectly fine despite DH's worrying.  I ran an extra 2.8 miles to total 6 for the day.  It was way too freaking hot... I wasn't as prepared as I thought I was, so had to cut it a little short.  Flopped into the pool as quickly as I could fully clothed while being dizzy from the heat.  I'm gonna pop some pain pills and hope for a nap or at least some rest...AF cramps are kicking in now.

David & Rachel have caught yet another cold... lots of snot and some coughing.  I can feel my throat getting scratchy too.  It seems to coincide with the visiting of a certain friend....I may have to start sanitizing them immediately after that visitor.



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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 02:47:53 PM
It's super cool.  Most blenders are the right size..

(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQCIvX2ntQnTrDD-AfRLL1T3QLIuWCqxy_id5SJzsruOYysG2pd)

My blender ring thing (that holds the blade, and the pitcher screws into it) come off my blender, so I just screw it and the blade right onto my mason jar full of smoothie stuff, pop it onto the blender, and go.  Then when I'm done I wash up the blade/ring real quick and it's all done. 

Ohhhhhh. Dammit, my blender doesn't do that. :) But I usually make a big enough smoothie that I just throw the blender in the fridge and use up the rest the next day.
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2012, 02:52:09 PM
Ohhhhhh. Dammit, my blender doesn't do that. :) But I usually make a big enough smoothie that I just throw the blender in the fridge and use up the rest the next day.

Aw man!  It might still fit if you wanted to turn your whole blender upside down to screw it on.  :D  Probably not very handy, tho! 

I like my smoothies all slushy, so I add crushed ice and water to mine as well, so leftovers wouldn't be for me.  But my whole smoothie making world changed when I learned the mason jar trick!
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Post by: merigayle on June 20, 2012, 02:52:37 PM
got my two runs in, time to pick up DD and take her swimming hopefully.
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 02:54:19 PM
I wish, but I don't think the ring comes off our blender at all. Bummer - otherwise, I'd totally do that!
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2012, 02:57:32 PM
I wish, but I don't think the ring comes off our blender at all. Bummer - otherwise, I'd totally do that!

Heh. 

I need to get some lunch ideas going.  I am eating a qdoba salad every day.  While it's good, I'm getting bored with it and it's not cheap.  Gluten free is the key.  I could bring in my own salads, obviously, but I'm trying to come up with other ideas. 

I was thinking baked potatoes, and I could top them with something protein-y.  Chili-like.  I don't know.  I don't like microwaved baked potatoes much, but we have a toaster oven here, so I wonder about microwaving it most of the way and then crisiping it up in the toaster oven. 
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 02:58:56 PM
Can you do couscous? I have a good couscous and chickpea salad recipe at home.
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Post by: caito on June 20, 2012, 03:06:20 PM
Heh. 

I need to get some lunch ideas going.  I am eating a qdoba salad every day.  While it's good, I'm getting bored with it and it's not cheap.  Gluten free is the key.  I could bring in my own salads, obviously, but I'm trying to come up with other ideas. 

I was thinking baked potatoes, and I could top them with something protein-y.  Chili-like.  I don't know.  I don't like microwaved baked potatoes much, but we have a toaster oven here, so I wonder about microwaving it most of the way and then crisiping it up in the toaster oven. 

It's not very summer-y, but I make a goulash-type one pot wonder that is SO convenient. 

I start with ground turkey in a big pot, then garlic, onions, a can of white beans (or other beans) and a ton of veggies:   chopped peppers, mushrooms, cubed squash, zuchinni, whatever you may have.  The combo of the turkey, beans and veggies is pretty filling.  And you can alter whatever spices you add depending on the theme of the ingredients.   For example, with squash, I like to add sage.  If you did black beans, you could add corn and cilantro and tomato or salsa to make it Mexican-ish.  You can throw diced potato in too if you don't care for baked potatoes.
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2012, 03:09:32 PM
I *think* couscous is pasta, right? 

I also do not like chickpeas.  That's what hummus is made of, right?  I want to like them, I reallllllly do. 

I made some lettuce wraps the other day at home, and they were an ok sub for a sandwich, but they were all wet & messy, which doesn't lend itself to eating at my desk, sadly.  This weekend I may make up some chili.  I know it isn't chili weather, but it's easy, healthy, filling, and should be gluten free.  I think. 

I had to email my MIL and ask her about food for this weekend.  I didn't want to say anything, but we are staying at their house saturday night, which will include eating at least 2 meals there (supper and breakfast) so I shot her an email telling her about this whole gluten free trial.  I just don't want anyone making a big deal out of it, but I know they will.
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2012, 03:10:40 PM
It's not very summer-y, but I make a goulash-type one pot wonder that is SO convenient. 

I start with ground turkey in a big pot, then garlic, onions, a can of white beans (or other beans) and a ton of veggies:   chopped peppers, mushrooms, cubed squash, zuchinni, whatever you may have.  The combo of the turkey, beans and veggies is pretty filling.  And you can alter whatever spices you add depending on the theme of the ingredients.   For example, with squash, I like to add sage.  If you did black beans, you could add corn and cilantro and tomato or salsa to make it Mexican-ish.  You can throw diced potato in too if you don't care for baked potatoes.

This is an excellent idea.  Do you add tomato sauce to your goulash?  My mom makes hers with ketchup, mustard, and brown sugar.  :D  And macaroni noodles, but the potatoes are a good idea.  I could even do sweet potatoes!   Mmmmmm! 
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Post by: caito on June 20, 2012, 03:14:06 PM
It depends.  Sometimes I add a can of chopped tomatoes.

Oooh tomatotes and white beans and basil and turkey would be good...
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
I will have to make up a batch of this soon.  Stellar idea, caito! 

Off topic, but the countdown app on my phone, which I got for just this purpose, says 76 days till football season. 

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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 03:17:48 PM
Shoot, yeah, couscous is out. I have a bunch of grain-based salad recipes somewhere. I'll see what I can dig up. Good luck this weekend. Feel free to throat-punch your MIL.
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2012, 03:21:19 PM
Shoot, yeah, couscous is out. I have a bunch of grain-based salad recipes somewhere. I'll see what I can dig up. Good luck this weekend. Feel free to throat-punch your MIL.

heh!

She most likely won't be the prob.  It will be my SIL.  But I'm hopeful that maybe they will all just shut up about it.  We had a fun weekend together last week, so my fingers are crossed!
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 03:24:22 PM
Then feel free to throat-punch your SIL! :D I hope it goes well, but oh, that would piss me off.
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Post by: MiniDriver on June 20, 2012, 04:24:46 PM
I didn't have lunch until 2:30, just had my snack and now I have a tummy ache.   :(  My body doesn't accept schedule changes well.
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Post by: BonitaApplebum on June 20, 2012, 05:17:58 PM
Substitute quinoa for couscous!!! Gluten free and full of protein.
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Post by: merigayle on June 20, 2012, 06:42:12 PM
BA beat me to it! Quinioa is tastier, gluten free, and super nutritious
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Post by: MiniDriver on June 20, 2012, 07:43:36 PM
I need to stay out pf witchy's thread.  Sigh.
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Post by: diablita on June 20, 2012, 07:47:55 PM
I love quinoa! 

I have eaten very, very poorly in the last 24 hours.  :nono:  I had some of my dad's birthday pie (cherry) last night (some = 2 small slices).  And then tonight I got take-out from a hibachi place which might have been healthy if the rice weren't disgusting and full of oil.  And I ate it anyways b/c I was too hungry.   :-[ 

I am 1.5 pounds away from having lost 10 lbs in the WLC and I surely won't hit that goal next Tuesday like this.
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Post by: debbatx on June 20, 2012, 08:52:54 PM
Awwww, diablita, you can do it.  :hug:

And Mini, yeah, I need to stay out of that thread. It makes me hungry.

We had veggie/pasta casserole tonight, and a glass of wine. Reid had juice, just in case you were worried. Hit my points exactly for the day, so that was good. Based on the scale so far, I should see a loss of some kind this week.
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Post by: BonitaApplebum on June 20, 2012, 09:43:34 PM
I went out to eat w/DH b/c the kids are at their grandparents' house.

Good news: sushi -- so fairly healthy
Bad news: I can eat a shitload of sushi

I abstained from booze and ate super healthy the rest of the day, so overall I did okay. But I wouldn't use the word austerity when describing the amount of sushi I ate...  :-[

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Post by: diablita on June 20, 2012, 10:02:18 PM
yeah, I'm back to austerity measures tomorrow.  but yum, sushi sounds like what I'll eat after the weigh-in next week.

And yay Debba!
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Post by: Magic Microbe on June 20, 2012, 10:05:30 PM
I figure I owe itno to witchy to share my wisdom with her as I was blessed with some serious talent when it comes too gaining weight.
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Post by: triciaflower on June 21, 2012, 12:05:10 AM
I love me some quinoa. Made some today to keep in the fridge for the next couple of days if I need to grab something to eat in a hurry.

Today I made a pilaf type thing with quinoa, green onions, yellow peppers, and lima beans. SO GOOD!!!!! I had it with fish and some pinto beans.



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Post by: Mom of Scooby on June 21, 2012, 06:45:48 AM
I will have to make up a batch of this soon.  Stellar idea, caito! 

Off topic, but the countdown app on my phone, which I got for just this purpose, says 76 days till football season. 



What app is this ?  We need to get our family fantasy team going.
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Post by: BonitaApplebum on June 21, 2012, 07:14:59 AM
75 days now! Woot!

I finally looked up those crash potatoes. Holy cow do they look good!!!!

I'm on my own for dinner tonight so will probably eat something weird that nobody else around here likes...
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Post by: merigayle on June 21, 2012, 07:17:15 AM
i have a bunch of great quinoa recipes on my pinterest ;)
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Post by: MiniDriver on June 21, 2012, 08:40:54 AM
Too hot to eat, thank goodness.  Woke up hungry in the middle of the night, but too hot and lazy to get something so fell back asleep until breakfast.  Second day in a row of wearing a sundress that didn't fit last year.  This one still had the price tag on.  I can't believe anyone paid retail for it.  I paid $25, original price $148.  For a sundress?  Loony.
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Post by: debbatx on June 21, 2012, 09:05:10 AM
Mini, that's awesome - both the deal and that you can fit into the dress! The scale inched down again this morning, so I'm happy it's at least moving in the right direction. I'm still crazy sore from Tuesday night's workout - so no running yet. Maybe tomorrow. Hmph.

Wait, no, definitely tomorrow. I just remembered that DH and I are going out Friday night, and I won't have access to a scale on Saturday morning, so tomorrow's weight is going to be my WW weigh-in for the week. Yeah. I'm definitely running tomorrow.
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Post by: diablita on June 21, 2012, 11:17:46 AM
Hey there.   I am working on being good today although we're going to a BBQ place for dinner.  Must get a run in.

Mini, I think we need a picture of you in your dress.  It's awesome that you managed to lose weight after your accident!
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 11:35:09 AM
75 days now! Woot!

I finally looked up those crash potatoes. Holy cow do they look good!!!!

I'm on my own for dinner tonight so will probably eat something weird that nobody else around here likes...

I made those potatoes again last night (I should look at the PW recipe, it may be a bit different from mine, but basically I smoosh cooked gold potatoes down, put garlic on top, pour some olive oil on, then salt and bake).  Yum. 

I have never tried to make quinoa.  Someone told me (and I have not looked this up to see if it's true!) that if you don't rinse it right, it's poinsonous??  I'm sure that can't be right. 

I'm definitely ready for it to be football season, and fall.  WOO!  MoS, the app is T-Zero, but I think there are a bunch of them. 
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Post by: debbatx on June 21, 2012, 11:36:46 AM
I've never heard that about quinoa. If you don't rinse it, it can taste sort of soapy, but it's not poisonous.
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Post by: MiniDriver on June 21, 2012, 11:37:15 AM
Hey there.   I am working on being good today although we're going to a BBQ place for dinner.  Must get a run in.

Mini, I think we need a picture of you in your dress.  It's awesome that you managed to lose weight after your accident!

Ha!  I haven't weighed myself since the accident.  I've lost weight since last summer, mostly in the midwinter WLC. 
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Post by: caito on June 21, 2012, 11:37:57 AM
I have never even rinsed quinoa. 
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 11:38:48 AM
I've never heard that about quinoa. If you don't rinse it, it can taste sort of soapy, but it's not poisonous.

I thought that seemed sort of odd :D  I will have to pick up some this weekend.  I see recipes on pinterest from Meri all the time! 
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 11:39:30 AM
I have never even rinsed quinoa. 

And you lived to tell the tale!   :yikes:  :D

So...  the consensus is:  not poisonous!  I kept meaning to google it but never got around to it.
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Post by: debbatx on June 21, 2012, 11:39:57 AM
I found some links to whole-grain salad recipes - I've made the one in the second link and it's pretty damn good. I have that issue at home - I'll look up some more tonight.

http://www.cookinglight.com/food/quick-healthy/whole-grain-salads-00412000070499/ (http://www.cookinglight.com/food/quick-healthy/whole-grain-salads-00412000070499/)

http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/toasted-quinoa-snow-peas-tomatoes-mozzarella-salad-10000001622448/ (http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/toasted-quinoa-snow-peas-tomatoes-mozzarella-salad-10000001622448/)
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 11:46:24 AM
Thanks!  :)  I'll have to check them out before I grocery shop! 

I saw something on pinterest where people put pork chops in the bottom of the crockpot, with garlic & onions, then layered on foil wrapped baked potatoes, then foil wrapped corn on the cob.  I may try this tomorrow if I get to the store to get corn and foil.  That would be a big hit at my house.  I'm going to probalby use a pork loin, since it's what I have.

Today I brought in a potato to bake at work.  Microwave the toaster oven for crisping.  I'm going to top it with leftover sloppy joe filling (protein) and home made ranch.  I'm sure that sounds disgusting to you guys, but I bet it's tasty.  I also have cucumbers and cherries (rainer!!).  YUM. 
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Post by: debbatx on June 21, 2012, 11:53:33 AM
Um, no, that sounds delicious. A chili-baked potato is one of my favorite things EVER. Saute some onion, then throw in about half a pound of ground beef and cook until browned. Add a can of chili-style stewed tomatoes. We season with chili powder, paprika, and cayenne pepper. I have no idea how much I put in, I just go until it's the "right" shade of orange-ish red. Split it between two baked potatoes. Top with monterrey jack cheese.


Crap. Now I'm hungry.
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 12:07:50 PM
Well, I never know if the stuff I like is weird, because sometimes I eat weird food combos.  :D
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Post by: debbatx on June 21, 2012, 12:10:11 PM
LOL! I like weird stuff, too, sometimes. But sloppy joe filling seems like a perfect baked potato topping.
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 12:13:24 PM
I loooooooove sloppy joes.  I made the filling and put it over home fries the other night, since I can't do bready squishy buns anymore.  It was definitely good!
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Post by: debbatx on June 21, 2012, 12:15:43 PM
Ooooh, that sounds delicious, too. Mmmm. Home fries....

I really, really want chocolate right now, though. A lot of it. :(
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Post by: Magic Microbe on June 21, 2012, 12:30:11 PM
Courtney...I was at a pizza place last night and they offered a gluten free crust!
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 12:51:52 PM
Courtney...I was at a pizza place last night and they offered a gluten free crust!

That's funny, because last night I called Dominos to see if they had gluten free crust, too!  :D  I know not everyone likes Dominos, but I do.  They do have it, so maybe I'll try it out soon!
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Post by: nadra24 on June 21, 2012, 01:03:26 PM
I went to the gym today for the first time in forever, so I'm pretty proud of myself.  I am picking up my wedding dress today, I'm pretty excited about that.  Hopefully I won't have any weight fluctuations in the next 16 days.  I am a little nervous about that, since I tend to stress-eat and heaven knows I'm up to my eyeballs in stress right now!
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 01:22:58 PM
Is your wedding in 16 days? 
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 01:24:15 PM
Eek!  I totally had your wedding, in my head, for August!!  I better GET ON IT with the clutches!!! 
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Post by: MiniDriver on June 21, 2012, 01:41:27 PM
I went to the gym today for the first time in forever, so I'm pretty proud of myself.  I am picking up my wedding dress today, I'm pretty excited about that.  Hopefully I won't have any weight fluctuations in the next 16 days.  I am a little nervous about that, since I tend to stress-eat and heaven knows I'm up to my eyeballs in stress right now!

So exciting! 
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 01:44:16 PM
 :panic:

I have clutches for Nadra, bags for Mini, and bridesmaid stuff for Lanarkshire (who I need answers from, but she isn't responding on fb).  Shit, dawg, I should take a week off to sew :D 

Don't worry, I'll get them done.  But I'm glad you said something, Nadra.  I definitely thought I had at least another full month on yours.   :yikes:
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Post by: VP of Tea on June 21, 2012, 01:51:17 PM
I went for a run at 6:30 this morning. I know this is nothing special for some of you, but I never run early. Since it's going to be 100 degrees here today and I work until 8 pm, I figured I had to get it done early or it wouldn't happen. So, happy about that.

I had my last bit of grape nuts for breakfast, and an iced latte, and strawberry sandwiches for lunch. Leftover pasta pesto with chicken for dinner and a smoothie for snack sometime (possibly now).

Nadra, no stress eating allowed! Stress-running, that's the ticket! :D

Mini, yay on the sundress from last year!
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Post by: merigayle on June 21, 2012, 02:20:18 PM
Good job VP

I never ever rinse quinoa.

I ran 15 miles (5 + 10) and want to eat a horse. I just ate a bowl of beans, rice and seitan. Yum.
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Post by: nadra24 on June 21, 2012, 02:45:01 PM
Eek!  I totally had your wedding, in my head, for August!!  I better GET ON IT with the clutches!!! 

Yeah, my wedding is July 7th.  There are two other CH weddings in August, so maybe that's why you had it in your head?

Hee hee, it was on my list to contact you about that today or tomorrow.  Now I don't have to!

Off to pick up my dress.  I am going out for sushi and a movie with one of my bridesmaids tonight, so that should be fine.  One thing that's great about sushi for me is that when I'm full, it stops tasting good to me so I don't overindulge.  Miso soup and one or two rolls will be a nice dinner.  I'm also going to stop and get salad stuff and berries (4 for $5!) and red peppers (3 for $1!!) at Sunflower Market.  Oh how I love that place.
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Post by: Run Amok on June 21, 2012, 03:00:29 PM
This week is officially a trainwreck.  :-[
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Post by: triciaflower on June 21, 2012, 03:22:17 PM
I made an AWESOME salad today.

Grilled chicken breast
romaine lettuce
tomatoes
pepitas
dried cherries
hemp hearts
"dressing" of flax oil and lemon juice. Abit of sea salt.

O.M.G.

The only thing that would make it better would be feta or chèvre.

The chicken with the hemp and flax oil make it even more filling. And you get lots of good omega something somethings.  :D
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Post by: triciaflower on June 21, 2012, 03:23:54 PM
COURTNEY

Eat these crackers with goat cheese and honey.

It'll change your life.

http://www.marysgonecrackers.com/ (http://www.marysgonecrackers.com/)
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Post by: MiniDriver on June 21, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
This week is officially a trainwreck.  :-[

Somebody just gave me a box of fancy bakery cookies!   :panic:   12 cookies at 65 calories per cookie = :eek:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 03:41:59 PM
COURTNEY

Eat these crackers with goat cheese and honey.

It'll change your life.

http://www.marysgonecrackers.com/ (http://www.marysgonecrackers.com/)


Ooooh!  I'll have to look locally to see if I can find them, or just order them.  Yay!  I love recommendations. 

Nadra, I'm sure that is exactly what I was thinking!  :D  They go together quickly, so I should be able to knock them out easily.  I shall ban myself to my sewing room tonight until they are AT LEAST cut out and interfaced. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 21, 2012, 04:47:31 PM
I've dodged the chocolate for today, at least. Just have to get through tonight, but I have another training session, so I should be safe.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 05:43:43 PM
It smells like (non-burnt) popcorn in my office so strongly right now.  I''m hungry!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 21, 2012, 06:35:39 PM
I've seen them at Sprouts. Do you have that there? They also have it at our regular grocery store, in the gluten free section.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2012, 07:49:08 PM
We do have sprouts!  I'll be checking it out this weekend.  Woohoo!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: blue sleep on June 21, 2012, 08:58:43 PM
Somebody just gave me a box of fancy bakery cookies!   :panic:   12 cookies at 65 calories per cookie = :eek:

65 calories?  I can beat that!

My mom sends me some really good iced cookies from a company called Cheryl's for, I swear, every holiday (halloween, christmas, easter. st. pats, 4th of july, birthday).  I'm 37 yo, btw :)

Each cookie comes in at 200 calories each!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 21, 2012, 09:36:31 PM
This week is officially a trainwreck.  :-[

aw, sorry RA

I meant to answer the question about quinoa earlier -- it is better to rinse it b/c the grains are coated with saponins which are bitter flavored to deter animals from eating them (like birds).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 22, 2012, 06:25:28 AM
aw, sorry RA

I meant to answer the question about quinoa earlier -- it is better to rinse it b/c the grains are coated with saponins which are bitter flavored to deter animals from eating them (like birds).

Yes, I forgot to rinse the last quinoa I made and I did not like the taste.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 22, 2012, 07:46:00 AM
huh. i never noticed any bitter taste to my quinoa. You are also supposed to rinse brown rice, i do not, but i often soak it overnight.

my week has been good food and running wise. I did get on the scale, but only after 10 miles in 100+ degrees and i liked the number i saw :D i think my period is coming a day early today. Makes me scared, cause this could mean there is a very slight possibility of it coming DURING Badwater  :e) and you know, i am in white top to bottom. There is a phenomenon of women getting their periods early during long distance events. Please do not make me one of these women. My runner in 2008 was one of these women and we had to wash her clothes in the bathroom along the course in the sink.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 22, 2012, 09:05:04 AM
 :yikes:  oh no Meri! Well here's hoping it does not come during the race.

Alright. So I am really happy to say my eating is on track. I am so proud of my discipline! I am down 3 pounds since I started my new way of eating 2 weeks ago. The key is planning. I know in the morning what all my meals are going to be the rest of the day. HOWEVER. I can't get motivated to get out there and RUN. I have new shoes. I have my gym bag packed. But I can't get my ass out there.

WHAT TO DOOOOO???
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 22, 2012, 09:13:43 AM
tricia, congrats on the eating well!  you should be very proud.

Could it be that you need to pick a different activity to get the exercise part jump-started?  Once you found the eating plan that made sense it worked (b/c it made you feel better); maybe you need to take the same approach with exercise?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on June 22, 2012, 09:14:51 AM
WHAT TO DOOOOO???

Some ideas ...

1.  Plans with a running buddy (or any buddy willing to meet you for a run)
2.  Sign up for a 5k either to motivate training or just to make you get out there and do the run (nothing wrong with a run/walk if you're not totally there yet) (and if you are way beyond 5k just sign up for whatever distance makes sense!)
3.  Arrange things so that you have to run to get somewhere.  I.e., get dropped off at work and plan to run home, tell your SO you'll run to the farmers market and meet him there for a shop, that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 22, 2012, 09:21:26 AM
 This weekend is going to be disastrous in the food and drink department but l am super excited to go to Vegas with all my best friends.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 22, 2012, 09:45:29 AM
have fun in Vegas, MM!

Tricia-- when are you running or planning to run during the day? I find the earlier in the day, the less excuses. There is really nothing else to do at 5am.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 22, 2012, 09:51:05 AM
Tricia, I'm in your shoes, so to speak. I have the shoes. The alarm(s) are set. All I have to do is get up and run.  :sidesplit:

Yeah.

That said, I'm going to have to shake up my plan for next week. My trainer told me last night he's going to have me do some treadmill work on Tuesdays for a while, so I don't want to run Tuesday mornings. I think I'm going to try yoga on Tuesdays instead. We'll see. I need to think about it some.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 22, 2012, 10:40:52 AM
Like someone else mentioned, maybe it's time to try something different?  Like, run some times, but maybe bike/spin, lift weights, etc instead?  I needed to shake up my routine for a long time, I was just bored with running, I guess. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 22, 2012, 11:39:00 AM
I think you're right. I might be bored. I run in pretty much the same areas when I do get out there.

Maybe I just need a change of scenery?



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 22, 2012, 11:47:08 AM
Change of scenery always helps me. I'm at a point now where I was getting really frustrated with myself because I'd stalled out at one point in C25K and couldn't seem to get past it. Now that I have (sort of, we'll see how next week goes), I'm looking forward to longer runs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 22, 2012, 12:34:01 PM
I think you're right. I might be bored. I run in pretty much the same areas when I do get out there.

Maybe I just need a change of scenery?





I get the same way...  I have recently been running on the treadmill while watching stuff on my iPad.  It's less boring.  I've been watching True Blood.  :D  Not boring! 

I'm also doing more biking/spinning and weight stuff, and some interval workouts (like body rock or zwow) instead of just steady state cardio.  They are shorter (think 25-35 min most of the time) than a 4-5 mile run.  When I run I do a 5 min run, 1 min walk (ish) thing.  I figure as long as I'm doing something most days of the week, I'm good. 

Speaking of, holy moly my group trainer workouts this week were HARD.  I was sore for two full days after the one on Monday, and why I'm not sore right now (from yesterday) is really a mystery.  If ya'll are interested, I can post the workouts here. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 22, 2012, 01:11:44 PM
My trainer kicked my ASS on Tuesday. Holy shit. And yet, the scale was down this morning. Woot!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 22, 2012, 04:37:04 PM


Speaking of, holy moly my group trainer workouts this week were HARD.  I was sore for two full days after the one on Monday, and why I'm not sore right now (from yesterday) is really a mystery.  If ya'll are interested, I can post the workouts here. 

I am interested!   :)   

Also, the 2nd workout you did may have relieved the soreness from Monday's workout.  I don't know exactly why this happens, but it can feel miraculous.   Must be the blood flow or something.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 22, 2012, 05:18:32 PM
I'm interested too!

6.2 miles today.  Half on the treadmill and half outside with DH.   Also did a 45 minutes trail walk with David this morning.  He loved it!  So cute and it was just me & him...a little mom/son bonding time.  Good eating so far today... oatmeal with blackberries, yum!


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on June 22, 2012, 05:38:32 PM
I walked the dog today, for the first time since the first week of April. W00t!

Didn't eat well today,  anxious about DH going away for the weekend.  Not a bing, just nit the best choices.  Sushi for dinner. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 22, 2012, 07:45:51 PM
yes, please post the workouts.  definitely interested.

MM, have a fabulous time!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on June 23, 2012, 09:21:47 AM
MM, have loads of fun in Vegas!!

Tricia, when I run out of motivation, it is usually because I am putting too much pressure on myself. I have to run 3 miles. Or 5 miles. Or whatever. If I say, you know, I'm just going out there and run walk, or walk or just do something, no matter what, I can usually get my ass out the door.

That said, that did not work this morning!  :(

My eating has been very good this week, and I ran three times. Not great, but not horrible. Running again tomorrow (no really!). I am happy to report that I have not had any soda, chocolate, potato chips or alcolhol since last week Friday. And it's not even hard to abstain right now, yay! It really helps that it there is so much nice fruit to be had right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 23, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
I assume that mcdonalds at 2am qualifies as a bad choice.  That and all the alcohol that led up to that decision.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 23, 2012, 03:09:25 PM
You're in Vegas.

Calories don't count there!!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 23, 2012, 03:34:44 PM
If only "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" included the calories.  I'm not a wild party girl but I would eat with abandon.  :D

So we took J to the community pool today and had a blast playing with her and swimming around with her.  And I swam a bunch of laps, though I haven't been swimming in forever so it wasn't really much for someone who swims regularly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on June 23, 2012, 04:47:29 PM
I assume that mcdonalds at 2am qualifies as a bad choice.  That and all the alcohol that led up to that decision.

I would not worry about a Vegas Bachelorette weekend. Unless you have to call Fionn to bail you out, you should be ok.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 23, 2012, 05:19:46 PM
Speaking of being hungry, I swam only 20 laps and seem to be famished.  I didn't eat much lunch but am extraordinarily hungry -- is this from the swimming?  If so I may not do that again, as good as it felt.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 23, 2012, 05:32:29 PM
Speaking of being hungry, I swam only 20 laps and seem to be famished.  I didn't eat much lunch but am extraordinarily hungry -- is this from the swimming?  If so I may not do that again, as good as it felt.

Are you new at it?  I had the same trouble with swimming.  It was one of the reasons why I quit swimming.  What helped, though, was to drink a LOT while I was swimming.  I think I was hungrier the colder the water was.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 23, 2012, 06:01:46 PM
I have never been a lap swimmer.  I was on the dive team as a child (so we did warm-ups swimming with the swim team) and am a scuba diver.  But I can't recall ever swimming laps.
For the one sprint tri I did, I didn't train for the swimming portion b/c it was a last minute thing.


I don't get very hungry at all after runs (even long runs) or mountain biking so this is surprising.  In fact, since the swim I've had quite a bit to drink, half a pb&j and some cherries and am still feeling very hungry.  I'll have to give it another try but maybe eat a better lunch beforehand next time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 23, 2012, 11:26:20 PM
I RAN TODAY!!!!

 :runner:

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Post by: merigayle on June 24, 2012, 05:33:36 AM
I RAN TODAY!!!!

 :runner:
yeah!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 24, 2012, 07:10:57 AM
I have never been a lap swimmer.  I was on the dive team as a child (so we did warm-ups swimming with the swim team) and am a scuba diver.  But I can't recall ever swimming laps.
For the one sprint tri I did, I didn't train for the swimming portion b/c it was a last minute thing.


I don't get very hungry at all after runs (even long runs) or mountain biking so this is surprising.  In fact, since the swim I've had quite a bit to drink, half a pb&j and some cherries and am still feeling very hungry.  I'll have to give it another try but maybe eat a better lunch beforehand next time.

I do not get very hungry after running or biking either, but after swimming, it was different.  I trained for 2 half ironman triathlons, and the hunger never disappeared after the swimming.  I also experienced a lot of skin allergy problems (chlorine).  That is why I quit swimming.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 24, 2012, 04:30:10 PM
I ran 30 miles today. I will eat my weight in food at the Japanese buffet tonight with my running partner. Then tomorrow I start my 2 week super diet to try to lose a few more pounds before race day. When i confided in my running partner (who is running her first Badwater this year and was on my crew last year) what i weighed at the start of the race she was shocked and agreed the scale had to be off. whew.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 24, 2012, 04:42:46 PM
I am SO excited for you, meri.  And in awe.
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Post by: merigayle on June 24, 2012, 04:49:31 PM
I am SO excited for you, meri.  And in awe.
i am super duper excited!!!  :azn: last year i was super duper nervous more than anything. I am sure there will be nerves, but a lot more excitement this year. The whole race, since it is so small and invite only, is really like a family. it is super nice just to go and see everyone every year as well (though DH told me that i cannot go back next year. :( lots of $ and vacation time).
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Post by: caito on June 24, 2012, 05:10:24 PM
I am SO excited for you, meri.  And in awe.

Me too!    :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 24, 2012, 06:35:52 PM
So I decided to splurge and have seafood rooftop last night for the first time ever and it was undercooked..then rice was hard. I don't like sending stuff back so I just ate all the seafood out of it. So disappointing!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 24, 2012, 08:18:31 PM
what is seafood rooftop?
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Post by: diablita on June 24, 2012, 08:33:06 PM
seafood risotto and auto-correct maybe?  if so, that's TOTALLY disappointing.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on June 24, 2012, 08:44:37 PM
Risotto ...I will never understand autocorrect.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 24, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
sorry, MG.  Did you tell the restaurant that the risotto wasn't cooked enough?  (It sounds like it wasn't just a toothy bite if the rice was hard.)
If I lived closer, I'd make seafood risotto for you two. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 24, 2012, 11:13:23 PM
sorry, MG.  Did you tell the restaurant that the risotto wasn't cooked enough?  (It sounds like it wasn't just a toothy bite if the rice was hard.)
If I lived closer, I'd make seafood risotto for you two. 

I should have but I really hate complaining and I wasn't even sure if it was wrong since I never had it before but then I had others taste it and it was definately uncooked. It had that starchy flavor of uncooked rice and the kernals were hard. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 25, 2012, 07:15:54 AM
LOL! Risotto! LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 25, 2012, 08:47:14 AM
Meri, that's awesome - I'm so in awe of you. I can't even imagine. :)

Y'all, I'm freakin' exhausted and we ate like crap this weekend, so  >:(. We dropped Reid off at my parents' house Friday evening, had burgers for dinner, and then went to the Van Halen concert in SA. The show was fun, but the people behind us kept lighting up - and not cigarettes - which triggered both an asthma attack and a RAGING headache for me. Like, rolled over in my sleep and woke up from the pain headache. So my brain has hurt for two days and I've been hacking up a lung. Last night before bed, I took a Zyrtec - the mold count is over 5K right now - and two advil. And then, at 1 AM, I had to dig my codeine cough syrup out of the medicine cabinet and take that. So this morning, I'm dehydrated, my head still vaguely hurts, the cough is coming back, and I feel slightly drunk.

Needless to say, I didn't run this morning.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 25, 2012, 09:37:21 AM
oh no, Debba.  I'm sorry you had such a tough weekend when it should have been fun.   :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 25, 2012, 09:49:53 AM
The concert itself was fun, although David Lee Roth is batshit crazy. The near-migraine-like headaches Saturday and Sunday mornings sucked. God Bless DH, when Reid woke up early on Sunday morning (THANKS, MOM), I told him I felt like shit and he let me take two Aleve and go back to bed while he took Reid. He makes me insane sometimes, but then he pulls through when it counts. It took until yesterday afternoon for me to connect the coughing fits with the pot smoke at the show. I should have downed the cough syrup with everything else before bed last night - it would have worked its way through me by the time I woke up instead of me waking up still vaguely high from it. Oh well.

I'm taking my inhaler to work with me today, though. May pick up some daytime stuff on my way in, too. That's the one good thing - I work until 7 tonight, so I don't have to go in until 10. Gave me some time to get that cleared out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on June 25, 2012, 12:13:37 PM
I ate lamb heart and lamb kidney this weekend for the first time ever. Also sushi, two glasses of sparkling wine and pizza (homemade). It could have been much worse, as I normally would have a lot more wine at the dinner party and there was zero snacking. Plus, lots of DFW and I did run (shuffle) on Sunday. But still, back to austerity today. Well, after lunch because I will have some leftover pizza for lunch.  :d

Debba, feel better! Mm, what a bummer about the risotto!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 25, 2012, 12:38:32 PM
I should have but I really hate complaining and I wasn't even sure if it was wrong since I never had it before but then I had others taste it and it was definately uncooked. It had that starchy flavor of uncooked rice and the kernals were hard. :(

I hate that. I find it's about 50/50 in restaurants. It looks done long before it's actually done and it's something that restaurants typically partially cook ahead of time and then finish at the time of service... and it's so variable with how much it was started and the individaul rice, and so on... if the cook doesn't test it before sending it out...  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 25, 2012, 01:08:58 PM
Debba, I hope you feel better!! 

Ok, for those of you who were interested in workouts...

This was the one that made me sore!  I copied this from my trainer's email, so I'll make some notes so you know wtf he means :D 

Legs
Lunges/ Single Leg Dead Lift 8 sets 8 reps - Straight lunges, do 4 (2 on each side), then do 4 single leg deadlifts (2 on each side).  Repeat this EIGHT MOTHERFUCKING TIMES. 
Tabata Squats 8 cycles - This means you do 20 seconds of squats (we just used body weight, and did them fairly quickly), 10 seconds of rest.  Repeat 8 times (4 min total)
   
Upper Body
Chest and Back 8 sets 8 reps - I did pushups for chest and the cable row for back.  8 sets of 8 reps, doesn't sound hard, but I was feeling it!!
Shoulders/Biceps/Triceps 1 set 50 reps (yes, I said 50!) - this, my friends, was TOUGH.  I did overhead press for shoulders (using the heaviest weight I could manage, and had to switch to a lower weight part of the way thru), bicep curls (same thing), and then we did Mikeys for triceps.  If you've never done these, they are awesome.  We use the squat rack.  You put the bar about chest high, stand back from it, hold on with your hands, and then you lower/swing yourself under the bar, ducking your head, then push yourself back up to standing.  Holy moly...  50 of these in a row are hard!!

Then we did abs.  Which was some conglomeration of stuff he likes to make us do, for about 7-8 min.  Iron cross, russian twist, bicycles, crunches, oblique stuff.  Whew. 

So then on Thursday, we did this:
Legs
Leg Ext 30 compression/Lunges x 2 sets - there were two of us, so one of us did leg extensions on the machine.  30 total, and you do 10, rest for 5 sec, do 10, rest for 5 then do 10.  While one of us was doing that, the other person did straight lunges (we held weights, but if you aren't up for that/ready for that, just use body weight).  Then you switch.  Then you repeat both of them.

Ex Ball Bent Leg Raises/DB Single Leg Dead Lifts 1 min each x 2 sets - One of us did single leg deadlifts while the other one did these ridiculous things.  You lay down, put your heels up on a ball, and lift one leg up (bent), then raise your butt in the air.  THen you switch out legs, without lowering your butt.  You do it for 1 min.  Then you switch.  Do each thing twice.

Upper Body
8,10,12,15 rep cluster set - we did sets of 8, then 10, then 12, then 15 with the heaviest weights we could manage.  We did shoulders, biceps, triceps, chest, and back.  We picked our exercise, but I did bicep curls, overhead shoulder press, pushups, Mikeys, and cable rows. 
100 jump ropes after each body part- in between body parts, we jumped rope.  Eep! 

Abs
Sit ups 10 reps
Hold & Pulse
Bicycles 50 reps
Ball Catches 15 reps 10 pulses
Repeat

I'm getting so much stronger.  It's awesome.  I've moved up from 8 lb weights on biceps to doing 12-15 lbs depending on how many reps we are doing.  Shoulders are getting stronger, and I WILL be doing real pushups before long.  I'm doing them right now using the squat rack bar, moving it lower and lower to the ground as I get stronger. 

Single leg deadlifts make me sore EVERY TIME. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 25, 2012, 01:18:34 PM
Thanks, Courtney - I'm really pissed off about this. I'd been feeling great!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on June 25, 2012, 01:19:23 PM
Damn, Courtney!  That looks great.  8 sets of 8 reps is hardcore!  I never would have thought of that. 
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Post by: merigayle on June 25, 2012, 01:28:06 PM
Debba u need emergency acupuncture!
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Post by: debbatx on June 25, 2012, 01:30:06 PM
I wish I could, meri! If it doesn't clear up in a couple of days, I'm calling to get in at my acupuncture place.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 25, 2012, 02:26:05 PM
Damn, Courtney!  That looks great.  8 sets of 8 reps is hardcore!  I never would have thought of that. 

I know, same here...  That's what's so nice about our trainer.  He mixes up the reps and stuff, and it is good to not always be lifting the same. 

We also do these things where we'll count down the reps.  So we'll start out doing 10 reps, then 9, then 8, all the way down to 1.  Your arms pretty much want to fall off after that.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 25, 2012, 08:33:21 PM
Damn, Courtney!  Thanks for sharing. 


So I may have eaten some salty snacks yesterday (these veggie chips I bought for DD that were LOADED with salt and herbs) and retained huge amounts of water last night, not to mention the fat grams.  I weighed 4 pounds more last night than I did in the afternoon.  :yikes:  I really can't eat certain salty, processed snacks though putting salt in my food never does that.

Happily I downed an herbal tea last night and a TON of water today and it's almost all back off.  but ZOMG.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 25, 2012, 08:35:44 PM
yep, my body is like that too, not with chips or something, but with Chinese food or eating out or my period.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 26, 2012, 12:47:37 PM
period is pretty much over. weighed myself after 40 minutes in the sauna at 140F and i am up 4lbs still.  :grr: I am really cutting back the calories this week and next (and also the miles with tapering and sauna sitting) to hopefully lose a few more lbs by race day. Don't judge. I am trying to get a lot of protein and am making an exception and am eating greek yogurt and will probably buy some eggs from DD's school's chickens and have some egg whites.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on June 26, 2012, 01:05:43 PM
I dam not judging you meri.  I had a surprise weigh in for a race this weekend and I did not enjoy the experience at all.   :-X
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 26, 2012, 01:37:07 PM
I am so glad I've never done a race that required a weigh-in.

Slept in this morning, or tried to, at least. I took cough syrup last night before bed and actually got some good rest. But then the "take my temp/get up to run" alarm went off and I took my temp and then rolled over to get some more rest...


...and promptly started hacking. Poor DH was really nice about it, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 26, 2012, 02:36:14 PM
Debba, I hope you feel better soon!

Meri, no one here is judging AT. ALL!!! :) You rock. And you inspire everyone here.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 26, 2012, 03:14:45 PM
meri, if we did judge you, we would only find good things.  Do what you need to do to be where you need to be -- but you're great by me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 26, 2012, 03:27:49 PM
Thanks, tricia! I'm going to the gym tonight - we'll see how it goes. Definitely taking the inhaler, just in case.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 26, 2012, 06:00:26 PM
thanks ladies, you are the best  :heartbeat:

I dam not judging you meri.  I had a surprise weigh in for a race this weekend and I did not enjoy the experience at all.   :-X
it sucks, right? did they write your weight on your bib, too????
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 26, 2012, 07:39:29 PM
I may just pull out every hair on my head if David does not stop whining!  All freaking day! 

I did not manage to get out of my pjs until 4:00 today.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on June 26, 2012, 08:04:53 PM
it sucks, right? did they write your weight on your bib, too????

They just wrote it on my medical release form thankfully  :D  I do not know why they had to weigh us.  I was not expecting it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 26, 2012, 08:06:04 PM
They just wrote it on my medical release form thankfully  :D  I do not know why they had to weigh us.  I was not expecting it.
what kind of race?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on June 26, 2012, 08:07:39 PM
Just a half ironman. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 26, 2012, 08:11:44 PM
weird. was it oddly hot? what is worse? knowing you are going into a weigh in or not knowing? LOL!!! Since i have been agonizing over it for  a year, probably better off not knowing :D Only one other race I did was I weighed in, none of the other ultras weighed us, a couple had optional weigh ins for your general knowledge in case you were concerned about losing/gaining weight during the race. If you lose or gain too much weight, it can indicate different issues, so i understand why, but ugh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 26, 2012, 08:56:45 PM
Well, hell. I'm going to have to call the doctor in the morning. The cough, while helped by cough syrup, is still hanging around, as is the chest tightness. It's difficult to take a full breath - not painful, but my chest feels heavy and tight, though the heavy could be attributed to the boobs. :D And taking a full breath sends me into a coughing fit. The inhaler is only a minor help. I'm also freaking exhausted - seriously, it's not quite 8 yet, and I'm seriously thinking about taking my medicine and going to bed once Reid is down. I'm attributing that to not being able to get quite enough oxygen.

Dammit, dammit, dammit.

Don't worry, I'm not in imminent danger or anything.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 26, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
ugh, Debba.  I'm so sorry you're dealing with this.  It sounds like you should just go to bed and let your body heal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 26, 2012, 09:08:37 PM
excuse me but did someone just use the word "just" next to "Half Ironman" in this thread.  I'm a gonna pretend I didn't see that and just walk away.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 26, 2012, 09:17:11 PM
Thanks, diablita. I'm SO frustrated. Things had been going really well and I was really starting to get back into my exercise and BAM!

Stupid pot smokers.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on June 26, 2012, 09:51:48 PM
excuse me but did someone just use the word "just" next to "Half Ironman" in this thread.  I'm a gonna pretend I didn't see that and just walk away.  :nono:

Well I only meant just compared to the amount of time out there for an ultra and needing a weigh in  :D I do not really think a weigh in is needed for halfs.  I think knowing it is coming is worse meri.  I just had to deal with it on the spot but much less stress beforehand. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 26, 2012, 10:32:11 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 27, 2012, 07:36:30 AM
Well I only meant just compared to the amount of time out there for an ultra and needing a weigh in  :D I do not really think a weigh in is needed for halfs.  I think knowing it is coming is worse meri.  I just had to deal with it on the spot but much less stress beforehand.
that was how i read it, a half ironman is really not a cause to weigh in due to the distance not being as extreme as a full ironman or like a 100 mile race. I like the races that do voluntary weigh ins :D

I did have a weigh in at a 100 mile race and it weighed me in less than i weighed and i was THRILLED. However, i sent DH over to look at race merchandise and when he saw me hop on the scale, he ran over to see how much i weighed, he was curious  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 27, 2012, 08:41:00 AM
Oh, did i mention i have a nasty summer cold that has settled in my chest?  :grr: I took Nyquil last night and was up until 3am! WTF? I am taking another day off from running today, hope to be back at it tomorrow.

But in good news, those mystery pounds are gone and back to my "base" weight. Hoping to be 5lbs lighter than that come race day, however, race day is around the corner. LOL.

I had 1 egg + 2 egg whites for breakfast. Not really an egg fan, but hopefully it keeps me full until snack and lunch time :) i have made a big batch of summer rolls with cabbage, spinach, carrots, tofu, etc, all wrapped in rice paper. Kinda conflicting counts on calories in the rice paper, but it appears there are around 50cals/ wrapper. The package says 200 cals per serving, 6 servings per package, but no count on how many are in package and they are so fragile, afraid to count, LOL!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 27, 2012, 09:07:57 AM
Yeah, so it was 8:57 when I closed my eyes last night. Good thing, too, because at 1:45, Reid woke up screaming. We went in to check and he'd had a nightmare and was shaking and crying and clinging to me like a baby monkey. Poor kid. Something about monsters. He refused to go back to sleep in his crib and wanted to sleep in our bed, but honestly, there's just not enough room, so I ended up snuggling with him in the recliner in his room instead. We both slept, but it wasn't the best sleep I've ever had, that's for sure.  :luvcoffee:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 27, 2012, 09:44:28 AM
eggs definitely fill me up.  hope it's the same for you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 27, 2012, 10:36:34 AM
3.2 quick for me miles this morning.  I have a new motivation of a possible beach trip in a few weeks... .so push ups and abs to be done too.
Yesterday was such an off day for me.  Glad to start over.

Meri & Debba, hope you both feel better soon.

Meri I've been thinking about your comment awhile back about starting your period during a long race wearing white.  I started mine a week early after the relay race and my theory was that the body decides that under so much stress from the race/running it must eliminate all unnecessary contents... and it definitely couldn't handle a pregnancy under those circumstances if they were to continue.
Just my random rambling thoughts.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 27, 2012, 11:42:22 AM
i thought it was all the running made the blood flow down and out! LOL
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 27, 2012, 12:19:25 PM
 :fiery: wanna hear this? i pinned a cheesecake on pinterest and filed it under party foods and one of my friends is like "so you're losing the vegan thing?" (he is vegan) and i was like, um, if you did not notice, i pinned it under party foods for special occassions, potlucks, etc. how rude?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 27, 2012, 01:23:48 PM
Yeah, that's an assy thing to say.  I'd ask if he was the vegan police.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 27, 2012, 01:50:45 PM
Yeah, I'd be pissy about that one, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 27, 2012, 02:11:18 PM
and to make me even more pissy???  :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: DH took his new job without finding out the specifics of the benefits package, all he knew was that it was Aetna and DD and I were not covered, but the hiring mgr made it seem like it was very little to cover us, but DH never got the info, until just now, THREE weeks into the job, 4 weeks after hire. We had 100% paid Blue Cross PPO with his previous job. This will cost us $600-700/month  :yikes: WTF? and getting insurance as self employed for DD and I is not really a better option, crappy ass insurance for not much less. DH did get a pay increase with the new job, and it should cover most of that $, but wtf? can we never get ahead? between feeling like shit and everything else, i just want to crawl into bed and go to sleep, except i have to finish up at work, pick DD up and amuse her the rest of the day. Maybe ship her to the neighbor's if they are home. Thanks for listening, gals :) I  :heartbeat: youse. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 27, 2012, 02:20:43 PM
aw meri  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 27, 2012, 02:30:19 PM
Meri, double check...  you often only have 30 days from the date of hire to make a decision on going on a benefit plan.  I just don't want you to miss your window. 

And I'd be frustrated, too.  That sucks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 27, 2012, 02:37:07 PM
OMG, I can't believe he didn't check! Gah!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 27, 2012, 03:21:38 PM
Yeah that's super frustrating meri!!  Damn.  I will forever hate the healthcare/insurance scam in this country.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 27, 2012, 03:22:54 PM
Yeah, insurance is ridiculous - not the idea of it, but the way it's put into practice.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 27, 2012, 05:32:14 PM
It would be enrollment august 1st. I have not looked at the papers yet, will when he brings them home.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 27, 2012, 06:27:11 PM
I am actually sick after looking at the forms. There is no health benefit coverage for DH, we would have to pay for all of us. The piece of crap plan is $700/mo, the half decent plan is $1150/mo  :sigh: talking to my insurance gal to see what other option we have. We may elect to do COBRA for 18 months if the amount the old HR lady's quote was correct, it was $600/mo for the best insurance out there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on June 27, 2012, 09:30:33 PM
 :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 27, 2012, 09:53:41 PM
:( I'm sorry, meri. That sucks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 28, 2012, 01:55:42 AM
yep. totally sucks. and here i am, a third night in a row, unable to sleep!  :bat: This cold is kicking my ass, but i think this is the end of it, my sinuses are draining like mad and the cough is subsiding. i just took an advil cold and sinus cause my face hurt.

I did, however, buy a timer for my crockpot and have some steel cut oats in there. Hopefully it does not burn like last time :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 28, 2012, 10:11:50 AM
I am actually sick after looking at the forms. There is no health benefit coverage for DH, we would have to pay for all of us. The piece of crap plan is $700/mo, the half decent plan is $1150/mo  :sigh: talking to my insurance gal to see what other option we have. We may elect to do COBRA for 18 months if the amount the old HR lady's quote was correct, it was $600/mo for the best insurance out there.

You know it's a shitty expensive plan when COBRA at the old job is cheaper.  I'm sorry, Meri.  :(  That would have been a big deciding factor in taking the job, no?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on June 28, 2012, 10:46:06 AM
UGH Meri. UGH UGH.  Health insurance concerns are the worst.  (And I'm afraid after this afternoon we'll learn things won't get much better.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 28, 2012, 10:47:59 AM
Not sure it would have been a deciding factor but possibly could have asked for more $.

Ran five miles w DD this mornIng, feel like shit still. Down a pound, only silver lining :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on June 28, 2012, 12:16:53 PM
I am actually sick after looking at the forms. There is no health benefit coverage for DH, we would have to pay for all of us. The piece of crap plan is $700/mo, the half decent plan is $1150/mo  :sigh: talking to my insurance gal to see what other option we have. We may elect to do COBRA for 18 months if the amount the old HR lady's quote was correct, it was $600/mo for the best insurance out there.

What the heck, his new employer has no company sponsored health care?  How many employees?  I thought they had to have it... Ughh.. that really stinks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 28, 2012, 01:04:06 PM
What the heck, his new employer has no company sponsored health care?  How many employees?  I thought they had to have it... Ughh.. that really stinks.
for him it would be (for the shitty plan) $160/mo, for the family (for the shitty plan) $700/mo, the good plan is close to $1200/mo. We had 100% paid full benefits, personal choice, from his previous employer. regardless of knowing this then or now, i think he should have still taken the job, but probably could have negotiated a higher pay rate. He said if things go well with the job, in a few months, he may ask for more pay.

In good news, I negotiated my office's lease renewal to lower it significantly and had them throw in a free gym membership as the owner of the building owns the gym (Sweat Fitness) behind my office!

In less than stellar news, i found the digital scale and it had me 3lbs heavier than my dial scale  :fiery: and i thought the dial weighed me heavy (esp when DD got on it and it weighed her 2lbs heavier and she is only 27 lbs and we weigh her on a fancy infant scale i won in a baby raffle, LOL. Unfortunately i am too big for fancy scale)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on June 28, 2012, 01:53:07 PM
for him it would be (for the shitty plan) $160/mo, for the family (for the shitty plan) $700/mo, the good plan is close to $1200/mo. We had 100% paid full benefits, personal choice, from his previous employer. regardless of knowing this then or now, i think he should have still taken the job, but probably could have negotiated a higher pay rate. He said if things go well with the job, in a few months, he may ask for more pay.

In good news, I negotiated my office's lease renewal to lower it significantly and had them throw in a free gym membership as the owner of the building owns the gym (Sweat Fitness) behind my office!

In less than stellar news, i found the digital scale and it had me 3lbs heavier than my dial scale  :fiery: and i thought the dial weighed me heavy (esp when DD got on it and it weighed her 2lbs heavier and she is only 27 lbs and we weigh her on a fancy infant scale i won in a baby raffle, LOL. Unfortunately i am too big for fancy scale)

Oh that's awesome.. I heard that's a good gym.. is that where they have Stillpoint Yoga? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 28, 2012, 02:17:54 PM
Oh that's awesome.. I heard that's a good gym.. is that where they have Stillpoint Yoga?
yes, it is the building right behind ours. any recs for eating out in W Chester?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on June 28, 2012, 02:25:37 PM
yes, it is the building right behind ours. any recs for eating out in W Chester?

Nope.. I never go to Westchester but a ton of my co workers live there?  When are you going?  They all rave about a sushi place there if I look at their facebooks I can probably get the name.  I think it starts with a K?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 28, 2012, 02:43:54 PM
Nope.. I never go to Westchester but a ton of my co workers live there?  When are you going?  They all rave about a sushi place there if I look at their facebooks I can probably get the name.  I think it starts with a K?
meh, DH won't eat sushi. We'll probably just go to the mexican place we did not go to the last time we had plans to go out  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on June 28, 2012, 09:19:29 PM
Annoyed with myself today for not just running by myself instead of waiting for DH.  He's made excuses all day and put it off.  Now it's too late and I have a headache.   Blah, my hormones are pissing me off too.  At least ive eaten OK so far.

I also did my abs and push ups so that's a bonus.   I can tell I've been slacking because they hurt in a good way.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 28, 2012, 09:45:52 PM
So. Tired. The cough came back this afternoon at work, with a vengeance. I'm heading off to bed soon. Hopefully I won't wake Reid up tomorrow like I did today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 29, 2012, 07:20:53 AM
So. Tired. The cough came back this afternoon at work, with a vengeance. I'm heading off to bed soon. Hopefully I won't wake Reid up tomorrow like I did today.
thought of you today, LOL. I had a patient i had not seen in 10 months who was coming in with allergies/asthma after 2 days at Dave mathew's concert :D He said it was all the "smoke"

Anywho, I feel like death warmed over. I finally was able to sleep last night after 3 nights of no sleep with this cold/cough and DD was up ALL NIGHT. SHe had a slight fever when she woke up and got out of bed, but will take it again in a minute and see if it was just being bundled up in blankets and cuddling with me all night. I am not sure how i will even drive into work today. BUT i was down a pound on my dial scale, LOL. I asked DH if he thought one scale was different than the other and he was like i dunno. i may make him try both tonight :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 29, 2012, 09:15:36 AM
LOL, I've been to a Dave Matthews concert - luckily it was at Texas Stadium, and we were in the cheap seats, so not much "smoke" near us! But yeah, I can't imagine doing that now. I'd keel over and die. I made an appointment with the doctor for 11 AM, since this stupid cough has lasted a week. I can't keep living off of cough syrup and hoping I don't wake up in the middle of the night after it's worn off.

I will say, though, that before acupuncture, this would have been MUCH worse. It's helped me SO much. Plus, I get to nap while I'm laying there. :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on June 29, 2012, 10:07:13 AM
I hope you feel better soon!  In a fit of crazy I signed up for another race in September  :e)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 29, 2012, 01:38:07 PM
Yep, it's an asthma flare-up. She's calling in an Rx for a steroid inhaler to get the inflammation down, and I have an Rx in hand for the good cough syrup. Should be feeling better pretty fast, once I get to the pharmacy and get everything.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on June 29, 2012, 03:21:18 PM
I hope you get your cold/asthma under control pdq, Debba and Meri!

I have not run since Sunday. Bad bad bad. I have been very good with food though. The scale is not really moving. It's up and down, but it has not gone higher than the number I saw when I first got back from the cruise at least.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 29, 2012, 03:46:26 PM
now i feel like a shitty mom, picked DD up at school and she has a fever of 101.7 :( one of my patients is a pediatric dr and i told her i sent her to school with a low fever and some tylenol and she asked me a bunch of ?s about how she was feeling/acting and said she would have sent her kid too, so that at least made me feel a little better. I just hope this is not the urinary thing coming back. And of course, it's the weekend! shit always happens on the weekend.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 29, 2012, 04:01:29 PM
You're not a shitty mom!!! And yes, it always happens on the weekend, doesn't it?  >:(

I did realize something, though - the number on the doctor's scale was actually pretty good for that time of day, so yay!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 29, 2012, 04:04:28 PM
yay! for good scale numbers :D

I did not share the good stuff, before picking DD up i swung by Target and not only bought a bathing suit top, i bought a little sun dress that is TOTALLY out of my comfort zone of what i would ever wear, but I am gonna wear it to the desert!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 29, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
Good for you!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on June 29, 2012, 04:08:28 PM
yay! for good scale numbers :D

I did not share the good stuff, before picking DD up i swung by Target and not only bought a bathing suit top, i bought a little sun dress that is TOTALLY out of my comfort zone of what i would ever wear, but I am gonna wear it to the desert!

 :rah:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 29, 2012, 06:26:41 PM
Wow! I'm envious about your sundress! My linebacker shoulders prohibit me from ever wearing a cute sundress. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 29, 2012, 07:01:06 PM
Well, I am not petite by any means, but if there is any photographic evidence of the dress i will share it or if i get an alone minute, take a picture :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 29, 2012, 07:58:24 PM
Wow! I'm envious about your sundress! My linebacker shoulders prohibit me from ever wearing a cute sundress. :(

I have linebacker shoulders as well.  And thick upper arms.  blah.  But sometimes I say 'fuck it' and wear strapless stuff anyway. 
I bet you look cute in a sundress Tricia and you're being too hard on yourself.  But I won't allow me to tell me that. 

Meri, we definitely need to see a pic of you in your dress.  And you're not a shitty mom.  Or I am too.  btdt, and then sometimes you keep them home and wonder if you should have sent them.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 29, 2012, 08:17:30 PM
I have linebacker shoulders as well.  And thick upper arms.  blah.  But sometimes I say 'fuck it' and wear strapless stuff anyway. 
I bet you look cute in a sundress Tricia and you're being too hard on yourself.  But I won't allow me to tell me that. 

Meri, we definitely need to see a pic of you in your dress.  And you're not a shitty mom.  Or I am too.  btdt, and then sometimes you keep them home and wonder if you should have sent them.
I always think everyone else looks cute in them, i never go, oh she looks terrible in that awfully cute dress, but me? i look like a cow and an elephant together :D

I kept her home last week with the fever for the bladder infection and it was just like, again? she was totally fine this morning. I gave her a second bath and her temp seems to have gone down, hopefully it stays down and she feels better tomorrow. who knows, maybe she caught my cold and it is manifesting this way? And good excuse to miss a kid's bday party DD was going to tomorrow at 3pm in 100F with no AC at their house! LOL
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 29, 2012, 09:15:51 PM
oh dude.  she was just getting a head start on the over-heating!

This happened to Jessica last Sunday.  She woke up in the morning with a fever of 101.  It went down quickly with a bit of Advil and pretty much stayed down, but she laid around the sofa all day.  It is SHOCKING for my DD to sit still for 10 minutes; she asked to take a nap at noon.  :confused2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 29, 2012, 11:15:17 PM
Reid had that happen a few weeks ago - woke up from an early nap with a fever and wanted to go back to sleep later that afternoon - he slept for FOUR HOURS and then still went to bed at his regular time.  :e)

Totally fine the next day.

Incidentally, the cough syrup I got today is even more disgusting than usual. Good God.  :o
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 30, 2012, 07:03:08 AM
DD never sits still, never. She was barely moving yesterday and crying to go to the pool and play on the swingset  :eyeroll: instead i gave her a few baths :D She woke up with 99.5, so doing better! If her fever is under 103 i do not give her advil or tyl and let the fever do it's thing. I am still not going to take her to the boy;s bday party today, 3pm at 100F at a house with no AC? HELL NO!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 30, 2012, 08:06:37 AM
I wouldn't take her either - just tell the parent she has a fever and you don't know if it's contagious. If you were coming to my party, I'd be sorry that she was sick, but grateful that you weren't sharing germs!!! :D

Scale was down this morning! Only half a pound, but still - down! Yay!! I'm now half a pound from a new decade, or at least one I haven't seen in a REALLY long time. I'm hoping the new inhaler starts to work its magic fairly quickly. I've only taken two doses so far.  :fingers:
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Post by: diablita on June 30, 2012, 08:39:54 AM
Yay debba!  I hope the inhaler works, too.

I am feeling stuffed.  I snacked hard last night, had a drink (Maker's & Coke. mmmm) and this morning had a big slice of toast with scrambled eggs.  I decided to let myself slip a bit this weekend, then start back on the WLC on Monday.  But I don't feel so good eating all this food.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 30, 2012, 08:41:40 AM
good job Debba. My dial scale had a very nice # this morning, digital was up 4lbs from that one. I asked DH to weigh himself on both some time today and report back!!! Being sick + practically no running + eating less works for me. I really think it is the less running as much as we would hate to admit that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 30, 2012, 09:47:56 AM
I have heard that lower mileage can mean better weight loss, because you don't have to eat as much as you would to properly fuel a long run. Which is great, because my mileage right now is nonexistent.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 30, 2012, 09:53:14 AM
I have heard that lower mileage can mean better weight loss, because you don't have to eat as much as you would to properly fuel a long run. Which is great, because my mileage right now is nonexistent.
the other theory is that your body is more prone to go into starvation mode because of a higher demand for calories needed to  burn. I dunno, but I know the more i exercise, the harder it is to lose weight. I am going to make the most of my taper :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on June 30, 2012, 10:15:55 AM
:D

Luckily, I have no desire to ever do a marathon, much less anything bigger than that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 30, 2012, 10:30:48 AM
:D

Luckily, I have no desire to ever do a marathon, much less anything bigger than that.
yep, i was naive and thought a  marathon was a good way to lose those last few lbs, by marathon day, i was up many pounds, it was either 7 or 9!!!! but i did fall into that "i ran 16 miles today, i can eat whatever i want" and now, i am older and wiser and know that only when i run 30 or more miles can i eat what i want :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on June 30, 2012, 03:38:07 PM
I hope you feel better soon!  In a fit of crazy I signed up for another race in September  :e)

What race did you sign up for?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 30, 2012, 04:02:12 PM
I think I finally have a handle of my food.

A while ago I posted that I have a really really hard time making good choices when going out to eat at restaurants. Well, the last few times we've gone out, I've made sure to order things on my plan. I wanted queso and enchiladas and quesadillas. Nope. I ordered grilled chicken. And I didn't even miss the other stuff. At all. So it's a start. Little by little. For now I stay away from restaurants that will totally blow my eating plan. DH suggested Five Guys.. and was like HELL NO!!!!

:roll:
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Post by: merigayle on June 30, 2012, 04:05:13 PM
Good job Tricia!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 30, 2012, 05:24:04 PM
Of course now I really want a burger.

 :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 30, 2012, 10:26:33 PM
We are having zucchini pancakes and chicken sausages for dinner tonight. I love the pancakes but I hate making them!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 30, 2012, 10:35:18 PM
do you have a recipe, mm?  I have a fridge full of summer squash I'll need to work with tomorrow.  I'm determined to make everything from this week's farmshare box.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on June 30, 2012, 11:02:29 PM
do you have a recipe, mm?  I have a fridge full of summer squash I'll need to work with tomorrow.  I'm determined to make everything from this week's farmshare box.


Let me look. I just grate zucchini, onion, and garlic and add some egg whites, flour, and seasoning and cook like pancakes but I can probably find a similar recipe online.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on June 30, 2012, 11:17:47 PM
That sounds really good, MM.  Do you top them with anything?
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Post by: Magic Microbe on July 01, 2012, 12:12:39 AM
That sounds really good, MM.  Do you top them with anything?

Just butter but sour cream or greek yogurt would be good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 01, 2012, 12:24:13 PM
This looks like a good recipe. I don't use parmesean cheese but I am sure that it would be yummy.
http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/08/the-crisper-whisperer-zucchini-pancakes-recipe.html (http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/08/the-crisper-whisperer-zucchini-pancakes-recipe.html)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 01, 2012, 03:01:13 PM
The zucchini tots i posted on pinterest were good, made them for DD a couple weeks ago.

I am definitely a boredom eater! It is nap time and i am bored and all i want to do is eat!!! Chowing on blueberries now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 01, 2012, 03:42:45 PM
Im hungry. I will have some cantaloupe. Food is going well, exercise is not. Sigh.

Yay Debra for almost a new decade!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 01, 2012, 05:43:31 PM
Good news - it doesn't look like wine book club destroyed my progress. Also good news - the asthma seems to be improving - I don't lose my breath walking across parking lots anymore.

Bad news - I'm still hacking up a lung at night, and occasionally during the day. Hmph.  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 01, 2012, 06:13:25 PM
meri, that's right.  The zucchini tots did look good.  And thanks MG.

So my IL's arrived super late last night and they all slept in until nearly 9 this morning.  So did DH.  So when everyone was up I put on my sneakers and headed out for a run...but it was already in the high 80's.  craziness!  I managed to get in 4 miles.  Then we spent the afternoon at the pool and DD was a fish so a lot of calories burnt chasing, catching, tossing and tickling her in the pool.  A great way to burn calories.  :D

The clan is downstairs resting but soon we'll have a very simple dinner.  I was REALLY good about food today and shouldn't have been since weigh-in is tomorrow.  But I might have a beer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 02, 2012, 09:18:02 AM
so weird. DH weighed himself on both scales and got the same weight! i am 2-4lbs difference between scales.  :confused:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 09:48:21 AM
That's weird!

So, the nightmares seem to be taken care of, for now. I actually got some sleep last night. Until 4:10, when I woke up hacking out my lungs. This is getting really, really old.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 02, 2012, 10:01:26 AM
{{debba}}


We are exhausted today.  Between storms and fireworks last night, nobody slept very well.  I'm back on the wagon food-wise.  Because I got my period this morning and from the snacking this weekend I'm up 3 pounds from my last weigh-in.  And I think I'm coming down with something.  :luvcoffee:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 10:07:49 AM
Oh, yeah, fireworks. We only had a few last night, but they were loud. Didn't wake up Reid, thank goodness, because I'd have thrown *down* if that happened, but they scared the hell out of the dog. It's just going to get worse.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 02, 2012, 12:39:00 PM
debba- i feel for ya, my head is still stuffy, day 12 of my cold  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 02:18:33 PM
I'm kind of at a loss about how to deal with it. I mean, I take my cough medicine before bed. I slept until 4:10 or so, when I woke up hacking. Taking more cough medicine isn't really an option - it takes too long to kick in. I used my inhaler this morning, and that seemed to help, but it could have also just been sheer exhaustion.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 02, 2012, 02:41:33 PM
well, I have no advice. the sudafed did not really help me, but made me REALLY thirsty. I maxed out how much Afrin I can take as well. I cannot believe i still feel super shitty almost 2 weeks later. Did you get steroids as well as the inhaler?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 02, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
I was actually really productive during nap time and she is still napping! i did dishes and made dinner-- polenta lasagna, including the polenta from scratch. Excited to be able to do whatever we want when she wakes up (which should have been by now already.....) without having to worry about dinner :) just pop it in the oven.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 03:47:02 PM
well, I have no advice. the sudafed did not really help me, but made me REALLY thirsty. I maxed out how much Afrin I can take as well. I cannot believe i still feel super shitty almost 2 weeks later. Did you get steroids as well as the inhaler?

I have my normal "Use This Before You Exercise" inhaler, and then when I went to the doctor on Friday she gave me another, temporary, inhaler with a steroid in it that I use twice a day. And yeah, I've been crazy thirsty, too. I guess if I wake up after 4:30, I should just stay awake, work out, and power through the day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 02, 2012, 03:51:04 PM
is it just a dry hacking cough or productive cough?

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 02, 2012, 04:02:13 PM
So...  gluten es no bueno!  Man, I can really tell when I get something with gluten in it on accident.  I had some jerky this morning, and it didn't occur to me to check for gluten until I'd already stuffed a bunch in my piehole.  Oh yeah, gluten (in the soy sauce flavoring).  WTF?  Now my tummy hurts. 

I haven't been counting points now for a couple weeks, so I need to get back on that horse.  I have a trip to Napa Valley coming up over Labor Day, and then a wedding two months after that.  I'd like to be smaller/fitter. 

I hope you feel better, Debba!! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 04:14:05 PM
Dry hacking. Not even remotely productive.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 02, 2012, 04:16:23 PM
Courtney-- atleast you now the gluten is making a difference! tamari is gluten free soy sauce, but you probably knew that.

Debba- gotcha. That is how my cough has been, 80% of the time it is just this dry hacking. I was living on cough drops last week. Hopefully the steroid inhaler will work. Maybe if not, a nebulizer treatment?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 04:38:31 PM
The inhaler has been working, in that I can now walk across the parking lot without getting short of breath, which was happening last week. And I have nighttime cough syrup (I have two options, actually) that I've been taking, too, but I guess it's not lasting quite long enough? I don't know. It's just freaking annoying!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 02, 2012, 04:44:02 PM
sounds really annoying, says me who has gone thru about 100 tissues today. and DD is still napping, almost 3 hours  :o i peeked in on her and she is still alive at least. she had a fever over the weekend, so i guess she needs the sleep, but boy is she gonna be pissed when she wakes up and does not have a lot of time between then and dinner. we were going to go swimming. oops.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 05:02:33 PM
Yikes! Good luck with that.

And yeah, it's *really* annoying. I don't like waking up in the mornings feeling disoriented from the medicine, but until this resolves, it's the only way to stop the cough. I have two cough syrup options - one is basically codeine with that guasefin or whatever it's called, and the other one is essentially liquid lortab.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 02, 2012, 05:05:40 PM
take both and call it a night :D ok, it is 5:05, i may try to wake her, but i am scared. I may just wait for DH to get home at 5:30 to do it :D she can be a monster if you wake her up prematurely. Whenever i pick her up at school after nap time (Wed and Fri) they are like, oh let me go wake her and get her for you, i am like NOooooooo  :panic: :panic: :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 05:12:21 PM
LMAO! I wish. I had book club at the house on Saturday and between the 6 of us, we went through 8 bottles of wine - basically, we were each responsible for a little over a bottle of wine, give or take. Even with all that, I *still* had to take cough syrup so I could sleep. I'm kind of amazed I woke up yesterday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 02, 2012, 05:13:17 PM
hopefully you start to feel better soon! i am feeling pretty good, except my head is stuffy and i cannot breathe out my nose. the neti pot helps for like one minute.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 05:39:43 PM
Yeah, I'm feeling better during the day, for sure. It's the random and unexpected hacking cough at night that's killing me. At least Reid didn't wake up last night.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 02, 2012, 07:15:35 PM
I finally woke her up at 5:30! And of course shw cried that she could not go swimming, lol. My eating has been good so far today. I want to munch all day on my days off bit so far not too bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 02, 2012, 07:42:27 PM
Debba.. are you perhaps allergic to something in your room? Or is it when you lie down?

Have you tried a netipot to get the crap out of your sinuses? That sometimes works for me. Not all the time, though. I think my sinuses are shaped weird and the liquid still comes out even after I've supposedly blown it all out. gross.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 02, 2012, 08:09:59 PM
Netipot works pretty good for me. I also got rid of down pillows, which was tragic because I love my down pillows. 

I am so woefully off track I don't know where to begin. So back to basics for me......
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 02, 2012, 08:36:17 PM
Debba.. are you perhaps allergic to something in your room? Or is it when you lie down?

Have you tried a netipot to get the crap out of your sinuses? That sometimes works for me. Not all the time, though. I think my sinuses are shaped weird and the liquid still comes out even after I've supposedly blown it all out. gross.

Do you have an air purifier in your bedroom? Ours has helped me a lot and it was only about $100!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 09:07:13 PM
It's definitely worse when I lay down, which is pretty typical for cough-variant asthma, which is what I think I have. I have tried a neti pot with mixed results, but good enough that I do keep trying it. I'm also really bad about remembering that it's under my sink. :) No air purifier, but that's not a bad idea.

This particular episode can all be traced back to the Van Halen concert and the pot smokers behind us.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 02, 2012, 09:21:10 PM
I'm sorry you're still dealing with this, though it does sound like it's getting better.  Could you be dehydrated when you go to bed and the combo of needing more liquids and the meds leaves you too dry at 4ish?  That's all I got.  Hopefully you continue to improve.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 02, 2012, 09:41:07 PM
That's a good thought, diablita. I wouldn't have thought so - I drink a ton of water throughout the day - but it's always possible. Hmmm.

I'm hoping to do yoga in the morning. If I start hacking after 4:30, I'm just going to stay up.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on July 03, 2012, 12:05:26 AM
Netipot works pretty good for me. I also got rid of down pillows, which was tragic because I love my down pillows. 

I am so woefully off track I don't know where to begin. So back to basics for me......


Could you get non-allergenic pillow cases for your down pillows?  I have no idea if that would help or not, but I just saw them at target and thought of this thread.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 03, 2012, 09:46:49 AM
Good news - no coughing last night!! Yay!!!

Bad news - Reid woke up twice and insisted I sit in the chair in his room until he fell back asleep.  :luvcoffee: The only reason I got out of it the second time was because I'd been sitting there for 20 minutes, he was dozing and woke up when I stood up - I told him I had to go potty and I'd be right back. He was out by the time I tiptoed back to his room, so I went back to bed.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 03, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
Could you get non-allergenic pillow cases for your down pillows?  I have no idea if that would help or not, but I just saw them at target and thought of this thread.
Too late!! I got rid of my old favorites about a year ago.   :sigh:  I actually like my temperpedic pillows....they took some getting used to, but now I think I prefer them.  They have better neck support.

Eating was okay yesterday.  I have not been working lout this week. I am feeling a little burnt I guess. I will focus on my eating again today.  Tomorrow I think we are heading up to the lagoon so we can paddle board.

Deb...glad you had a cough free night.  I know how good that feels!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 03, 2012, 10:29:02 AM
i love my tempurpedic pillow, it is not the wave one but the just square one.

ran with DD in the stroller and still felt weak. I do, however, feel like i am finally clearing out the last of the congestion, i came home and blew my nose a million times. so i feel like i am getting better! finally.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 03, 2012, 10:43:41 AM
MM, where did you get your air purifier?  How do those work?  I'm stuff a lot, and it's something we've thought about. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on July 03, 2012, 01:24:52 PM
So, I've been not following my eating plan at all really... and was feeling quite chubby so I reluctantly stepped on the scale this morning. Imagine my surprise to have gained not a pound. I guess I've been doing a better job balancing the good with the bad. I've continued to try and follow plan for breakfast, lunch, and snacks (when I remember them) and most dinners. I've continued to avoid alcohol, candy, and non-plan snacks. But, I've been eating out wayyyyy too much lately! Time to reign it in! I'd still really like to lose another 10-15lbs but I'm happy enough where I'm at, for now.

All of my jeans are dirty right now, except for some of the ones that are now too big. I'm rockin' mom jeans today!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on July 03, 2012, 01:35:39 PM
MM, where did you get your air purifier?  How do those work?  I'm stuff a lot, and it's something we've thought about. 

I think Lowes and/or Home Depot have them.  You can also order from nationalallergy.com.  Mine is similar to this one:  http://www.natlallergy.com/prod/1481/whirlpool-whispure-hepa-air-purifier-model-ap450.html (http://www.natlallergy.com/prod/1481/whirlpool-whispure-hepa-air-purifier-model-ap450.html)  I do order my replacement filters online because I can't always get them in a store.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 03, 2012, 02:15:48 PM
Good job, RA!

Potluck was... okay. I overdid the desserts, but didn't do *too* badly on the entrees. *shrug* We don't have them very often.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 03, 2012, 03:53:12 PM
I'm drinking tea. My lunch was very disappointing because my usual place (the bakery next door) is closed still. They need to replenish their stock before they re-open Thursday. Must have lost a bundle of materials, yikes.

Yesterday we had a really nice salad for dinner. I'm sure it's not low fat, but I don't care about that. Greens, really nice canned sardines (I  :heartbeat: them), heirloom tomatoes and capers. Perfect for this hot weather.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 03, 2012, 03:58:31 PM
I made THE best clean spaghetti sauce. It was a modified version of that tomato/pepper recipe someone posted.

Basically I sautéed fresh onions, red peppers, and LOTS of garlic until soft. Added fresh chopped tomatoes, a can of crushed tomatoes, some beef broth, and dried basil (fresh would have been better to add at the end, but I didn't have any!)

Simmered the crap out of that for like an hour.

Served it with brown rice noodles and ground beef added to the sauce. YUMMMMMM!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 03, 2012, 05:56:56 PM
MM, where did you get your air purifier?  How do those work?  I'm stuff a lot, and it's something we've thought about. 

I think it was Target (I know they had them but we may not have purchased there) or Home Depot. We bought the fancy one.

I didn't think about it until I went to Tim's moms house and they have a huge white fluffy dog and a huge white fluffy cat and I am allergic to both (mostly dogs). The first time I visited I was absolutely miserable...the next time they had purchased an air purifier for the guest room and I could breathe. It was amazing! We then bought one for our own house.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 03, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
yay RA!  That's great.
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Post by: debbatx on July 03, 2012, 09:55:10 PM
I'm totally intrigued by the air purifier idea now. :) Had a good workout at the gym - I was able to breathe! - and actually run on the treadmill a bit, so yay! Progress!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 03, 2012, 10:01:09 PM
 :banana:

Yay Debba for getting a good workout in. Hope this means you are on the mend.

I went walking tonight. AND I'm down 6.5 lbs. since I started my new eating plan. WOOT!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 03, 2012, 10:27:57 PM
outstanding ladies!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 03, 2012, 10:35:50 PM
I think I'm on the mend  :fingers: at least! Thanks, everyone, for putting up with my whining about this for the past two weeks or however long it's been. Really hoping to get in some yoga tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on July 03, 2012, 11:55:47 PM

I went walking tonight. AND I'm down 6.5 lbs. since I started my new eating plan. WOOT!!!!!!!

Awesome! What are you doing?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 04, 2012, 07:51:51 AM
Good morning.  Happy 4th.

I am super exhausted.  The in-laws left at 5 am.  They always leave really early and drive straight through to either Florida or Toronto, depending on which direction they're going in.  Usually my parents in-law are very quiet when they do this, but with my SIL and niece here it sounded like a troop of monkeys.  So at 6 I gave up trying to go back to sleep and went for a run.  Happily DD and DH didn't wake up.

Hoping to get in a nap later.  We're going to a July 4th at the JCC swimming pool where we'll burn tons of calories chasing/tossing/catching Jessica in the water.  And I'll swim laps.  Then later she has gymnastics class and we'll watch fireworks.

How about y'all?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 04, 2012, 08:49:33 AM
Reid and I are watching Sesame Street right now. We'll go to the park in a little bit for the neighborhood parade and then maybe to the Y to swim this afternoon. Or, maybe I'll just shell out the cash to join the neighborhood pool, too. I haven't decided yet. DH's boss had some big project, so they all "agreed" to come in today in exchange for a floating holiday later in the year that DH will probably never take.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 04, 2012, 10:36:51 AM
aw debba, sorry your DH is working. 

Our JCC membership includes the swimming pool and is a great investment.  She lives in the pool in the summertime and is doing well with swim lessons.  And on Sunday when it was 100 out we were totally cool in the pool.   8)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 04, 2012, 10:42:18 AM
we went for our run and it was steamy. going to go shopping and maybe hit the pool after nap time at the neighbors. my weight was up a little today and i am bloated. gotta love it. if i ovulate early i am gonna be pissed because it would put my period due at Badwater  :grr: so let's just hope this is pre pre pre ovulation (due saturday)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 04, 2012, 11:15:34 AM
Good morning.  Happy 4th!

Deb..I got my air filter at costco and it works great.  I have it in the bedroom and I turn it on every night. I have been using it ofr 10 years now, and I truly believe it is a major component in my being able to breath in a household with dogs. (we vacuum every day, also). I am so used to the filter that I can't sleep without the white noise anymore either.


I am going to try out my beautiful paddle board today!! My wetsuit came in so we are going to head up so Big Lagoon, where the dogs can runrunrun and I can paddle. We will see if they are interested in riding on it...which means I will be getting wet! (thats where the wetsuit comes in!) I am going to have to put my bathing suit on for the first time since Hawaii...and I am up 5 lbs. Ugh.  I can't seem to get my juju back for getting on track again. Try try again....

Today should be fun, and I will make every effort to be good.
Have a great day everyone!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 04, 2012, 11:18:48 AM
Have a great time, Laurlita :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 04, 2012, 05:14:46 PM
So, the parade was fun, Reid got to sit in a fire truck (I thought he was going to try and hide in there so he could go back with them), my parents came up for lunch, Reid didn't take a nap and threw a fit at the pool. DH got home about 20 minutes ago and is already making noise about not being able to handle Reid and being tired and blah blah blah.  :grr:

And there has been no consensus or decision on dinner.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 04, 2012, 06:58:48 PM
sorry debba.  sounds like it started off well...


We took J to the JCC and spent 3 hours in the pool.  She was swimming for most of it.  And she's amazing; really swimming back and forth between us! 

Now I'm wrecked.  J decided not to nap so I had to entertain her while DH slept.  Then when my turn came, I couldn't.  Just ate dinner and was wondering how we'll possibly make it through to fireworks time when my dad asked to come by and take J out to play.   :heartbeat:  So now we're relaxing for a little bit, then will hike up to the top of the mountain and watch from up there when it gets dark.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on July 04, 2012, 07:12:20 PM
So, the parade was fun, Reid got to sit in a fire truck (I thought he was going to try and hide in there so he could go back with them), my parents came up for lunch, Reid didn't take a nap and threw a fit at the pool. DH got home about 20 minutes ago and is already making noise about not being able to handle Reid and being tired and blah blah blah.  :grr:

And there has been no consensus or decision on dinner.

Pizza or takeout BBQ.  Flip a coin.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 04, 2012, 07:21:38 PM
LOL, we ended up going out to one of our favorite restaurants. No blood was spilled and we're all in decent moods right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 04, 2012, 07:33:31 PM
no nap days, SUCK! DD has been taking mega naps since being sick last week, today's was 2.5 hours  :e) I sat in the sauna for 45 minutes, did dishes and prepared dinner (sweet potato falafel).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 04, 2012, 09:52:35 PM
DH was getting frustrated at one point this evening, because Reid wanted DH to do bath time, and DH *hates* bath time for some reason, and I was like, "I've been with him since you left the house at 6:45 and did I mention that he didn't nap??? FFS, man, give the kid a damn bath!"
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 04, 2012, 10:33:29 PM
My lack of posting in here lately has been due to a 3 day no nap streak!!  Thank frack they napped today. 

I've also got hormone issues going on.  Feels like constant PMS.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 04, 2012, 10:52:52 PM
Awesome! What are you doing?

It's basically a clean eating plan. No processed stuff. In addition for me, it also means eliminating wheat, corn, most dairy, and sugar (honey, maple syrup, and stevia are allowed)

I've been fairly militant about it, but am allowing myself some concessions so I won't beat myself up if I slip a bit. The main thing I've noticed is the elimination of wheat has made a BIG difference in how I feel in the afternoons. I have no brain fog and I am wide awake. I usually need a nap because of all the sandwiches I used to eat.

I eat less, but more often.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 05, 2012, 08:28:38 AM
DH was getting frustrated at one point this evening, because Reid wanted DH to do bath time, and DH *hates* bath time for some reason, and I was like, "I've been with him since you left the house at 6:45 and did I mention that he didn't nap??? FFS, man, give the kid a damn bath!"
dude!!! DH detests bath time and refuses at all costs  >:( He also hates doing the dishes and i often say, please pick one. Last night, his idea of doing the dishes was putting everything in the sink and wiping down the counter. the dinner dishes are still on the dining room table!  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 05, 2012, 09:54:27 AM
OMG, meri, I'd have killed him by now. You're a saint. :) DH at least will do the dishes a lot of the time if I do bath, but last night, Reid only wanted DH - probably because he hadn't seen him all day.

I'm up a little this morning, but I also had a club wrap last night, so I'm sure the sodium is part of it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 05, 2012, 10:54:37 AM
Good morning.  Happy 4th!

Deb..I got my air filter at costco and it works great.  I have it in the bedroom and I turn it on every night. I have been using it ofr 10 years now, and I truly believe it is a major component in my being able to breath in a household with dogs. (we vacuum every day, also). I am so used to the filter that I can't sleep without the white noise anymore either.


I am going to try out my beautiful paddle board today!! My wetsuit came in so we are going to head up so Big Lagoon, where the dogs can runrunrun and I can paddle. We will see if they are interested in riding on it...which means I will be getting wet! (thats where the wetsuit comes in!) I am going to have to put my bathing suit on for the first time since Hawaii...and I am up 5 lbs. Ugh.  I can't seem to get my juju back for getting on track again. Try try again....

Today should be fun, and I will make every effort to be good.
Have a great day everyone!

Tell me about paddle boarding...  after I read this, I googled it, and the local reservoir does 2 hour lessons for $75 (that includes your gear), and I love water sports/activities.  I'm trying to talk my DH into doing a lesson, but I do not forsee it actually happening.  I want to know more about it to see if I want to go try it myself :) 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 05, 2012, 10:56:21 AM
It's basically a clean eating plan. No processed stuff. In addition for me, it also means eliminating wheat, corn, most dairy, and sugar (honey, maple syrup, and stevia are allowed)

I've been fairly militant about it, but am allowing myself some concessions so I won't beat myself up if I slip a bit. The main thing I've noticed is the elimination of wheat has made a BIG difference in how I feel in the afternoons. I have no brain fog and I am wide awake. I usually need a nap because of all the sandwiches I used to eat.

I eat less, but more often.

I haven't specifically, on purpose eliminated soy, but I doubt I'm eating much of it now, too.  I'm eating much cleaner as well (although I'm still eating dairy and corn), and I feel SO much better.  I'm down a total of about 7 lbs still, which isn't a ton, but I'll take it.  I'm tracking points again this week, hoping to see some more loss. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 05, 2012, 05:12:06 PM
I haven't specifically, on purpose eliminated soy, but I doubt I'm eating much of it now, too.  I'm eating much cleaner as well (although I'm still eating dairy and corn), and I feel SO much better.  I'm down a total of about 7 lbs still, which isn't a ton, but I'll take it.  I'm tracking points again this week, hoping to see some more loss. 

I can tell pretty quickly when I have eaten soy accidently (like in a marinade at someones house).  :( It is next to impossible to completely elimate though without just completely excluding any and all processed foods from my diet.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on July 05, 2012, 07:12:52 PM
Tell me about paddle boarding...  after I read this, I googled it, and the local reservoir does 2 hour lessons for $75 (that includes your gear), and I love water sports/activities.  I'm trying to talk my DH into doing a lesson, but I do not forsee it actually happening.  I want to know more about it to see if I want to go try it myself :) 

check your groupon and living social if you have it.  I just bought one that was 30.00 for 2 hours of rental and that included a lesson and all the equipment.  It wouldn't surprise me if you could find one too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 05, 2012, 08:26:34 PM
Oh! One other HUGE thing I have cut out- Caffeine. Yup. No coffee. No tea. No soda.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 05, 2012, 08:32:17 PM
Oh! One other HUGE thing I have cut out- Caffeine. Yup. No coffee. No tea. No soda.

That's not right... :nono:

Actually i do decaf for everything. ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 05, 2012, 09:13:37 PM
Oh! One other HUGE thing I have cut out- Caffeine. Yup. No coffee. No tea. No soda.

The thought makes me want to go ahead and stab out my eyeball, just so I won't have to deal with the headache. That said, I pretty much only drink my morning coffee these days. But I'd be a raging lunatic bitch without that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 05, 2012, 09:31:47 PM
same here, debba.  same here.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 05, 2012, 09:40:00 PM
Survived the gym tonight. If being sore makes the scale go up on Saturday, I'm going to be PISSED. I guess I should probably work out tomorrow to try and prevent that, huh? Dang.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 05, 2012, 11:52:18 PM
I dealt with one day-long caffeine withdrawal headache. I waited it out and suffered until is passed because I knew if I had caffeine, I'd have to start again the next day. So here I am. A month so far, without coffee.

I still crave it sometimes, and believe me, it takes some serious control to say no when you're surrounded by it.  :o
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 06, 2012, 12:01:22 AM
That is quite a feat for a coffee shop owner!! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 06, 2012, 12:09:43 AM
I dealt with one day-long caffeine withdrawal headache. I waited it out and suffered until is passed because I knew if I had caffeine, I'd have to start again the next day. So here I am. A month so far, without coffee.

I still crave it sometimes, and believe me, it takes some serious control to say no when you're surrounded by it.  :o

Lucky. I gave up caffeine once and had to suffer through a weeklong pounding headache. Never again!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 06, 2012, 07:25:18 AM
i gave up caffeine for a long time, but recently i have one cup of tea in the morning.

with my cut back calories, i am not seeing a move on the scale at all. trying to accept that it is what it is :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 06, 2012, 09:57:50 AM
Yeah, I "gave up" coffee when I was sick over memorial day, and had a pounding headache for almost a week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 06, 2012, 11:23:21 AM
I'm still on caffiene :D 

(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOyBK8Rh3UMJXq2XeWJAG5oFEEJROObv_8N20Fcenf8D7P3VFXdw)

Mmmmm...  I'm having one now. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 06, 2012, 11:42:03 AM
i was a Mtn Dew (diet) addict in grad school! LOL.

so, although the scale is not budging (though ovulation due around tomorrow, so could just be bloating?) i was looking in the mirror today at work and thinking i was looking pretty fly.  :specs:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 06, 2012, 12:01:09 PM
In high school, when I was dancing 4 days a week and in theater and walking regularly, weekend pre-rehearsal breakfasts were frequently a liter of Mt. Dew and a pack of Skittles.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 06, 2012, 01:26:10 PM
I'm not a happy person without coffee.  Just one cup will do but until then I cannot function.

The cupcake thread made me bake some lemon-blueberry cupcakes yesterday.   Which also includes eating the batter, frosting, and finished product.   Gah.   I have been doing my push ups and crunches again regularly.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 06, 2012, 09:15:45 PM
A local friend who's a neurology PA just posted on her FB about a correlation b/w drinking coffee and reduced risk of Parkinson's and skin cancer.  Another reason to have another cup!

(and rescue this thread.  boo)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 06, 2012, 09:16:59 PM
Oh thank God, you found it. Whew.

Thai food for lunch, pretty basic but yummy dinner - grilled chicken on the Foreman, roasted carrots, and couscous.  :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: for the number on the scale tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 06, 2012, 09:19:24 PM
good luck, debba
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Post by: debbatx on July 06, 2012, 09:19:47 PM
Thanks! You know I'll let y'all know as soon as I do. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 06, 2012, 09:36:04 PM
Lucky. I gave up caffeine once and had to suffer through a weeklong pounding headache. Never again!

Oh believe me, if that had lasted more than two days, I probably wouldn't have totally given it up. Just cut back.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 06, 2012, 09:38:09 PM
I ate too few calories in the morning b/c I was so busy at work.  When I went out for my run at 1, it was way too hot and I was way too underfueled and I bonked and cut it short.  :(
Now I'm sipping on sweet tea vodka and snacking on a few chips with salsa.  So I'll pay.  But hopefully the salt will be out of my system by Monday's weigh-in.

(I was down to a new number this morning, though. yay!)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 06, 2012, 09:38:35 PM
oh, and since we talk about exercise in here (including r*nning), maybe we can get this moved to the running board?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 06, 2012, 09:47:28 PM
That seriously sucks about the food forum.  :(
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Post by: Bolloxd on July 06, 2012, 09:55:09 PM
Well shit.  Maybe we can be made into a sticky.

Everything has been crazy today.   The kids & DH & myself have just had an off day. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 06, 2012, 10:13:40 PM
I just had to have a throw down with DH about not being an asshole, even a quiet, seething, passive-aggressive one, to our child. I'd give anything for some ice cream right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 06, 2012, 10:19:30 PM
Nooooooo. Step away from the ice cream. That will not solve anything.

Now chocolate. That'll work miracles.

 :D

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 06, 2012, 10:20:52 PM
We don't actually have any ice cream right now, so I couldn't even if I wanted to. And I want that number on the scale tomorrow more than I want the leftover chocolate cross (yes, really) from Easter.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 06, 2012, 10:22:23 PM
I still have Starburst from Halloween!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 06, 2012, 10:23:00 PM
I'm proud of you, debba.  That number tomorrow is going to look very good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 06, 2012, 10:26:45 PM
I still have Starburst from Halloween!

LOL!!! I'm still befuddled by the concept of a chocolate cross. Isn't it vaguely sacrilegious to nom on the symbol of Jesus's death? My sister bought it.

I'm proud of you, debba.  That number tomorrow is going to look very good.

 :-[ Thanks. I really hope you're right.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 06, 2012, 10:28:51 PM
It's not sacrilegious if it means someone somewhere can make some $$$!

Quick question unrelated to chocolate crosses: How often do y'all weigh yourselves? I pretty much do it every morning. Just to see the fluctuations in relation to what I have eaten.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 06, 2012, 10:30:47 PM
Every morning. Usually before I go to bed, too, just to get a sense of how much things fluctuate over a day and night. Sometimes before AND after I shower. Sometimes when I get home from work....

It's a little obsessive, but ultimately, the number that counts is the one on Saturday morning, and the others are just sort of... to keep it at the front of my mind. I have a long way to go, so if I don't stay focused on it, I'll never get there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 06, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
yes, I do that too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 06, 2012, 10:43:19 PM
Okay.. see I was wondering if I was doing it too often. I am FINALLY losing some weight, and I like seeing that number go down, even if by just a half pound.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Belgian Lace on July 06, 2012, 10:51:01 PM
I still have Starburst from Halloween!

Well, hello there!

 :groucho:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 07, 2012, 06:54:32 AM
(((debba)))

i weigh myself a lot. i can't help it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 07, 2012, 08:08:06 AM
Yep.  I check the scale at least daily and generally more. 

I also have leftover Halloween candy.  Candy never gets old, right?

It's my brother's birthday today and he requested my Pavlova instead of cake.  It feels weird to break the tradition of mom's cakes. I'm gonna need a run today.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 07, 2012, 08:24:02 AM
I did it! New decade!!! I lost 2 pounds from last week and am 1.5 into the new decade! :w00t:

The only bummer is that WW took away a point as a "reward." :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 07, 2012, 08:29:14 AM
So can anyone join this thread? I just started WW last week for the very first time. The breaking point was seeing some awful photos of me lately. And verging into sizes that I have never worn. I am sick of feeling lousy and I want to feel better.

I alternate between feeling positive for doing something concrete like joining WW, and feeling like a loser for having to sign up for a formal program instead of just eating better and exercising.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: radial on July 07, 2012, 08:29:54 AM
I did it! New decade!!! I lost 2 pounds from last week and am 1.5 into the new decade! :w00t:

The only bummer is that WW took away a point as a "reward." :D

Awesome, you smashed that goal! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 07, 2012, 08:32:36 AM
Hi, cgraz, and welcome!!! Lots of us here have been where you are, so no worries. I do WW (clearly), and sometimes it's frustrating that I can't just make good choices on my own, but I've found that, the more I follow the program, the better I do when I *don't* have an obvious, "WW-approved" choice in front of me. It really is about learning. :)

Awesome, you smashed that goal! 

Thanks, radial!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 07, 2012, 08:42:32 AM
Thanks debba! Those loser feelings are not popping up that often, and I am getting some positive encouragement from my sister (she's done it before and raves that she LOVES WW) and another friend/colleague who I talk to daily (has also done it before and wants to get back on it). Plus, a friend of a friend is one of the WW online editors and (even though she has probably never needed WW and never will!) she is super encouraging and told me about things like the scanner app, which is really cool. She says to please read the articles online because she has pretty much had a hand in most of them.  :)

I did make some adjustments after the first week - the default had me starting at 26 points and that just didn't seem like enough. Meals had to be pretty tightly planned and there was no room for a snack at any point. I do like veggies and fruits, ok, but am trying to incorporate more. For me, having that pool of weekly points is something I hate to dip into and I'd rather budget my daily points consistently. So I bumped myself up to 28 and then lowered my weekly pool accordingly. We'll see. I'm also wary that later, when I hit goals, points would be reduced - no way can I go lower than 26! I think I would be starving.

One thing I'm struggling with in general is that I don't like anything with artificial sweeteners, and lots of their recipes call for that kind of thing, plus it costs me more points...but I'm not willing to budge on that. I will make do with eating less of those kinds of things or budgeting them into days where I have activity points.

And I can't yet give up the little bit of sugar and half & half in my coffee. I'm already on decaf (have been mostly decaf for almost a year), so if I give up that, I think I'll lose my shit.  :P

Oh, and so far I lost 2.8 lbs, and that's with a party that we went to on Saturday night (the first day I signed up!) where I had a hard time figuring out what I ate, but with 3-4 vodka tonics, I definitely splurged - never mind the apps and small slice of birthday cake.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 07, 2012, 08:54:46 AM
great job, Debba! welcome Cgraz :) good to see you here!

I do not eat artificial sugars and even stevia i do not like the taste of. I have not done WW in ages, so i cannot help there, but hopefully it will get easier for you. I know I ate a lot of egg whites when i was on WW :D Egg whites and salsa  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 07, 2012, 08:57:07 AM
I have a toddler staring as I type, so not much time, but very quickly - look into a copy of Cooking Light. I use their recipes *almost* exclusively. They're healthy, tasty, don't use much in the way of artificial *anything,* and they give you info you need to calculate points in every recipe.

Thanks, meri!!! I'm ridiculously excited. 754575413454256ut2q56jw6uyuy7uliu7ukkl <----- Reid says hi.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 07, 2012, 09:05:17 AM
Hi Reid!

I do like cooking light and most of their stuff is online too. a lot of my recipes are from fat free vegan's blog and they are often low in points, i am not sure if she is still putting points on the recipes or not.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 07, 2012, 09:06:13 AM
Thanks guys - and thanks for the tip on Cooking Light - I used to subscribe and always liked their recipes. (One of my favorites is the parmesan chicken & rice recipe that rocketgirl loves that I shared here a long time ago.) I will definitely look into their recipes again! Maybe I should subscribe or at least look into a digital subscription on my iPad for a while. I'm heading to the beach for vacation in a couple of weeks, so I will have to bring a couple of hard-copy issues for beach reading.  :)

I need to build a solid repertoire of go-to stuff that I can count on fitting into my points. I know that just takes a little time.

I'm also trying to drink a lot more water - and to drink when I used to snack. That helps. Snacking (boredom eating) and sweets are my weakness.

After just a week of greatly reducing sweets by starting WW, I already feel better in the sense that I don't have that sluggish feeling and am not having the sugar crashes. So that really encourages me.

ETA...the hardest part will be when I go teach at yearbook camp the week after this coming week. I'll be eating in a cafeteria that specializes in plates full of chicken-fried beige food. I need good strategies like smart use of the salad bar and a no-fro-yo zone to get me through that. But I'll also have a lot of activity from walking/biking to get around campus, so I will give myself a wee bit of slack.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 07, 2012, 09:09:38 AM
It's funny, I switched from taking pretzels to taking a baggie of veggies as part of my lunch, and the other day, we'd run out of veggies, so I told DH to just throw some pretzels in. It couldn't make *that* big of a difference, right?

By 3, I was exhausted and starving and I couldn't figure it out until I remembered the switch we'd made. It was pretty eye-opening about worthless calories, for sure.

And I love Cooking Light. Love it. I've had a subscription for years. We use their super-fast sections or the Quick and Easy recipes for dinner during the week. I love the WW program, but I'm not a big fan of their recipes. They all seem a little too bland and "diet-y" to me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 07, 2012, 09:09:54 AM
mmmmmm froyo..... what? did you say something else?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 07, 2012, 09:13:30 AM
I did make a couple of things from WW in the first week, to try it out...for breakfast I made quinoa & apple "cereal" and it was really good and simple. And for dinner one night I made these grilled pizzas with wheat tortillas, chicken sausage, and onions & peppers. They were a lot of work (steps), but delicious.

One thing that cracks me up is that I think WW must get kickbacks from the people who make Pam spray, because I swear EVERY RECIPE involves "cooking spray!"  :D I do have some Pam but I think I will run out - I'm going from rarely using it to busting it out all the time. I think I need to get my olive oil sprayer back in action so I can just use that!

Yeah, meri - being in a college cafeteria with a froyo machine is dangerous! There is always a big line, so I will just focus on that as a deterrent. One year instead of froyo they had soft serve Edy's. Holy. Hell.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 07, 2012, 09:20:42 AM
I did it! New decade!!! I lost 2 pounds from last week and am 1.5 into the new decade! :w00t:

The only bummer is that WW took away a point as a "reward." :D

Woot woot woot! This makes me happy. (Maybe I am a little too invested in this board, eh?)

I too saw a new number (for this go around) this morning, but mine doesn't count until Monday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 07, 2012, 09:26:13 AM
I did make a couple of things from WW in the first week, to try it out...for breakfast I made quinoa & apple "cereal" and it was really good and simple.

Could you post this? It sounds intriguing. I have a hard time with breakfast as I don't like (hate) milk. My go-to breakfast is grape nuts with oj instead of milk (I know, it's crazy but it works for me) and a banana thrown in. But this quinoa apply thing sounds interesting!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 07, 2012, 09:28:00 AM
i have tried a lot of quinoa breakfast cereals, with quinoa and with quinoa flakes and it was just not my thing.

mmmmmmm softserve..... i miss JP Licks up in Boston. Yum. Good times. A new froyo place opened by our house and my neighbor keeps trying to get me to go with her  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 07, 2012, 09:32:24 AM
Could you post this? It sounds intriguing. I have a hard time with breakfast as I don't like (hate) milk. My go-to breakfast is grape nuts with oj instead of milk (I know, it's crazy but it works for me) and a banana thrown in. But this quinoa apply thing sounds interesting!

Sure! It's good - I like it better than oatmeal, which I like but sometimes find a little slimy. This had a nice texture and I actually like it better than most of the savory quinoa recipes I've had. The serving size of 2/3 cup is actually pretty filling - and for the WW peeps, it is 5 points. No artificial sweetener stuff, but it does call for cooking spray. (I skipped that and just used the butter.)  :D I have been eating it with some fruit on the side, like cantaloupe.

   1 cup(s) uncooked quinoa   
   2 spray(s) cooking spray   
   1 Tbsp salted butter, divided   
     2 medium fresh apple(s), chopped or diced   
   2 cup(s) water, cold   
   1/2 tsp ground cinnamon   
   3 Tbsp packed brown sugar   
     1/4 cup(s) fat-free skim milk   


    Soak quinoa in a bowl of water for 5 minutes.

    Meanwhile, coat a large skillet with cooking spray; set over medium heat. When skillet is hot, melt 1/2 tablespoon butter until it just starts to sizzle. Add apples and cook, turning occasionally, until apples are soft and begin to caramelize, about 5 to 10 minutes depending on personal taste; set aside

    Rinse and drain quinoa. Add quinoa and 2 cups of cold water to a medium saucepan and bring to a boil over medium-high heat; boil for 1 minute. Reduce heat to low, cover pan tightly and allow quinoa to simmer for 10 minutes. When quinoa is cooked (a little tail will appear on each grain), remove from heat and fluff with a fork. Add remaining 1/2 tablespoon butter, cinnamon, sugar and milk; stir to combine and fold in apples. Yields about 2/3 cup per serving.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 07, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
DEBBA!!!! Congrats on your awesome weight loss.. Looks like you are headed in the right direction, you and everyone else here is inspiring me to keep up my food plan.

God I love this thread. so much inspiration!

CGraz-- I'm glad you are here. We are all in the same boat as far as working to make better choices and feel better about ourselves. I can't stand artificial sweeteners, and yes WW does use a lot. :( I was about to get their magazine at Costco, until I flipped through it and saw so much splenda. yuck.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 07, 2012, 09:58:40 AM
Thanks, tricia.  :)  One reason I finally posted here is because of the people who are active in the thread.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 07, 2012, 10:07:53 AM
i also won't eat HFCS and things like skinny cow, etc, is full of that crap  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Jules62 on July 07, 2012, 10:45:52 AM
 :bow2:  Debbatx!!!  That is great. 

I got lost for a few weeks, but am back on track now.  Ran 6 this morning and looking for a good, healthy eating day!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on July 07, 2012, 10:58:07 AM
Good work!  Glad the forum is back  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 07, 2012, 10:59:29 AM
i also won't eat HFCS and things like skinny cow, etc, is full of that crap  :fiery:

I try to avoid it, but it's really hard...so I try to make more things myself and eat fewer boxed foods.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 07, 2012, 11:05:45 AM
I try to avoid it, but it's really hard...so I try to make more things myself and eat fewer boxed foods.
the only way i avoid it is just not buying anything like that :( i used to love skinny cow stuff too :( I get the almond dream mini ice cream sandwiches for a treat, but trying to eat fruit  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 07, 2012, 11:13:21 AM
cgraz, thanks for that recipe! sounds like something I would like, even with the tiny bit of milk. I do like lattes (go figure) so... Hate oatmeal though (shudder), even though I like oats. Contradictory, I am! :D  I wonder if I could make a batch ahead of time and then re-heat somehow. I'll start small though!

I actually don't find it hard to avoid artificial sweeteners and HFCS. But I eat very little boxed anything, which I think is key (mind you, you can still eat unhealthily that way too!)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 07, 2012, 11:16:14 AM
cgraz, thanks for that recipe! sounds like something I would like, even with the tiny bit of milk. I do like lattes (go figure) so... Hate oatmeal though (shudder), even though I like oats. Contradictory, I am! :D  I wonder if I could make a batch ahead of time and then re-heat somehow. I'll start small though!

I actually don't find it hard to avoid artificial sweeteners and HFCS. But I eat very little boxed anything, which I think is key (mind you, you can still eat unhealthily that way too!)

You could probably swap out water for the milk if it bothered you - but it doesn't taste milky at all. That seems to just give it moisture. I made it on Monday and then portioned it out and reheated it during the week. It worked out really well. I did add about a teaspoon of skim milk when I reheated it, to make it moist again.

Once I started looking, it got easier to avoid HFCS but I definitely had to check things like ketchup, BBQ sauce, breads, etc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 07, 2012, 11:31:26 AM
Have you all see this website: http://www.skinnytaste.com/ (http://www.skinnytaste.com/)

It's got good recipes, real food, great pics, and nutritional infor and WW points!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 07, 2012, 11:34:02 AM
My sister just told me about that site, too! I made her baked chicken parmesan on Wednesday and it was delicious.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 07, 2012, 11:35:48 AM
I've made a couple things and they have all been good.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 07, 2012, 11:39:06 AM
Good work!  Glad the forum is back  :)
Me, too.  I don't know what alignment of the planets in causing the turmoil in the ch, but I avoided it like the plague. I like this forum..it is a little hidey hole for me. My favorite people are in here.

Anyway....

I am a HFCS avoider.  Lucky for me I don't like, or eat most of the stuff it is in. 

I am doing terrible. My mojo from earlier this year has slipped away and I am having a hard time getting it back.  It is so weird how sometimes I have it and sometimes I don't. I am slowly gaining.  I don't want to lose the same weight over and over dammit.

We are dog sitting this weekend, so I won't take the boys paddleboarding today...3 dogs is too much. I think I will go to the gym and get a swim in...

ps.  DH ordered his paddle board yesterday!!  Soon we will be able to go on outings...a dog on each board.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on July 07, 2012, 11:46:19 AM
Good lord, for the first week of a new WLC, I've been eating a lot of crap.  I need to get to a produce market and get excited about some vegetables!

Mouse, do you have an extra lab this weekend? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 07, 2012, 11:54:47 AM
Good lord, for the first week of a new WLC, I've been eating a lot of crap.  I need to get to a produce market and get excited about some vegetables!

Mouse, do you have an extra lab this weekend? 
I do!  I have Annie...she is Hanks' littermate.  She has been part of the "family" for 9 years now...super easy keeper. Her parents are my "adopted parents"..the ones whom we have our Sunday dinners with.  They are the people who stayed up here when DH and I went to Hawaii.

I met Pat one day at the beach when Hank was about 6 months old. I was still deep in my grief from first DH's death and really did not know anyone here. Pat called out to me because he though Hank was his dog running back to the beach. Turns out she was in his truck. So we exchanged info and they adopted me.    :)

And I feel your pain....to top it off DH is slow cooking ribs today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on July 07, 2012, 11:56:26 AM
Love it!   :doglick:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on July 07, 2012, 11:57:23 AM
Have you all see this website: http://www.skinnytaste.com/ (http://www.skinnytaste.com/)

It's got good recipes, real food, great pics, and nutritional infor and WW points!

Thanks!  I want to try this:

http://www.skinnytaste.com/2011/10/crock-pot-asian-pork-with-mushrooms.html (http://www.skinnytaste.com/2011/10/crock-pot-asian-pork-with-mushrooms.html)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f7XRRVIx3-g/Tp8W7jx6_WI/AAAAAAAADtw/vdW1mIcP97w/s1600/Crock-Pot-Asian-Pork-with-Mushrooms.png)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 07, 2012, 12:03:43 PM
Mouse, we need a Hank + Dewey + Annie pic if you can finagle them all in one frame!

I too love this thread, even when I'm not on the wagon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 07, 2012, 12:09:11 PM
Mouse, we need a Hank + Dewey + Annie pic if you can finagle them all in one frame!

I too love this thread, even when I'm not on the wagon.

This is an oldie

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/Laurlita/Anniesfamily.jpg)

Barley (rip), Hank, Dewey and Annie
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 07, 2012, 12:27:49 PM
awwww  :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 07, 2012, 01:32:35 PM
PUPPIES!!!!!!

:D

And thanks, everyone - the support in this thread always amazes me. I'll definitely check out the skinny taste website.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 07, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
This is an oldie

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/Laurlita/Anniesfamily.jpg)

Barley (rip), Hank, Dewey and Annie


Thud!

OMG. I triple quadruple heart this picture!!!!  :heartbeat:  :heartbeat:  :heartbeat:  :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 07, 2012, 03:04:15 PM
Have you all see this website: http://www.skinnytaste.com/ (http://www.skinnytaste.com/)

It's got good recipes, real food, great pics, and nutritional infor and WW points!

I have made quite a few of those recipes and they have all been winners. Another good one is Cleaneatingmag.com (http://Cleaneatingmag.com) Lots of good ideas there. I got a gift subscription for my birthday and CANNOT wait until my first issue.

There is one more site, that I think was mentioned here before... http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/ (http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/) Lots of ideas for cleaner eating. She uses a lot of wheat, so if you are avoiding bread, you'll have to modify. But there are a ton of good lunch ideas to just eat cleaner.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 07, 2012, 03:22:45 PM
OMG, I LOVE that picture of the 4 of them.  :heartbeat:

Debba, congrats on your weigh-in today. yay!

I'm so happy that this board is back and the thread is back over here.  Much safer, much better.  I have not been a super healthy eater today but not too bad.  We're going out for dinner tonight but not sure where; we'll see how that translates, food-wise.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 07, 2012, 05:35:02 PM
I just made Sephora very happy. Getting to go was my reward for hitting that goal. I may have also hit Target on the way home to pick up some coloring books and sticker stuff for Reid for the plane trip. You're welcome, American Economy!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 07, 2012, 06:26:37 PM
I just made Sephora very happy. Getting to go was my reward for hitting that goal. I may have also hit Target on the way home to pick up some coloring books and sticker stuff for Reid for the plane trip. You're welcome, American Economy!
America thanks you!  And good for you!!!!!! I love sephora. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 07, 2012, 06:35:49 PM
Tricia, I just had a quick look at 100 days of real food (because it sounds like my kind of thing) and what do you know, I already want to make the larabars on the front page! Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 07, 2012, 06:45:17 PM
DH and DD are having pizza for dinner, eating soup an steamed veg, and a few bites of pizza.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 07, 2012, 07:50:07 PM
Congratulations Debba!!  Nice work!
Mouse, love the pic.  I'm also very jealous of the paddle board.
Welcome cgraz.  Glad you are joining us.


I got 3 miles done today and my push ups.  Spent some time in the pool with the kids.  They have very quickly gotten good at swimming with floats on.  Pizza for dinner and Pavlova for.dessert.

We leave for the beach next weekend and I cannot wait!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 07, 2012, 08:24:34 PM
OMG, we made the yummiest mac and cheese for dinner tonight. Like... I may make a triple batch next time and just eat that for as long as it lasts.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 08, 2012, 12:52:52 AM
God I love Mac and cheese. But that is SO not on my food list, but one I will indulge in if it's done right.

Tonight I made a vegetable omelet for dinner and some rye crackers. So good!! I wanted so bad to stop at the Thai place on the way home, or Chipotle.. but I made myself go home first to see what I could make that fits in my plan. Sure enough.. boom. eggs. Delicious. And ready in mere minutes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: RioG on July 08, 2012, 09:58:59 AM
All right... the food forum kerfuffle inspired me to come over here and hope and pray you guys can kick my ass into healthy eating.

I need ideas.  that's where i fail.  I never know what the hell to make.

Right now the healthiest thing I'm eating is a cold quinoa salad - quinoa, bananna pepper,cucumber, green onion, dried cranberries, fat free italian dressing.  All from my garden except the quinoa and dressing.  and cranberries.   It's delicious, and healthy, but if that's all I eat, it'll get old fast. :D

I need to get off the bread bandwagon.  My go to's are cereal and toast.  Bad!

So I'll be perusing this thread. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 08, 2012, 10:12:59 AM
There's good people in here, Rio.  :) I just got here, myself.

That quinoa salad sounds like a good start...and with a garden and lots of fresh produce, you've got the raw materials at hand for some good stuff.

If you like quinoa, I posted a breakfast recipe upthread that I recently tried that's really good. Maybe that can be a non-bread option that still tastes hearty and filling...

Speaking of which, I'm off to have my own breakfast.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: RioG on July 08, 2012, 10:20:04 AM
My garden is going to have zucchinni, spaghetti squash, green beans, tomatoes, green onions, spanish onions, english cucumbers, pickling cucumbers, maybe some peas, maybe some melons.  And cabbage.

This week I'm going to research fall veggies that i might still be able to start now. 

My biggest problem is not being a big vegetable fan, despite my love of gardening.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 08, 2012, 10:54:41 AM
I have problems eating enough vegetables.  Fruit is no problem, but I suck at veggies.  I buy them to watch them rot. :eyeroll:

Today I'm doing my hair blue....since the pink has faded. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 08, 2012, 12:03:15 PM
Yesterday was not a horrible day for eating, but I didn't run or swim.  We decided to take all 3 dogs to the beach for some SUP, and surfing, but when we got there the break was not that great. So we walked and threw the ball. All 3 dogs needed a bath (rolling in the sand) so I did get a *sort of* workout.
I was going to go to yoga this morning, but I am still drinking my coffee and class just started.....so I think I will go to spin class at 1030. Then I am going to be working in the garden, and mowing the back 40.

Food for the day? I think we are doing a veggie stir with brown rice for dinner.  Egg white and spinach scramble for breakfast/lunch.
Tricia..I love omelets.  Eggs are such quick, easy and good for you options. We go through them like crazy here.  I really wish DH was on the backyard chicken page with me!

Bolloxed, I am the same way.  I need to figure out a way to have veggies as snacks at work.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 08, 2012, 01:09:30 PM
God I love Mac and cheese. But that is SO not on my food list, but one I will indulge in if it's done right.

Tonight I made a vegetable omelet for dinner and some rye crackers. So good!! I wanted so bad to stop at the Thai place on the way home, or Chipotle.. but I made myself go home first to see what I could make that fits in my plan. Sure enough.. boom. eggs. Delicious. And ready in mere minutes.
I keep seeing a quinoa Mac and cheese recipe that I want to try...

I'm making gluten free banana bread today.  I have the bananas, and I was going to make up a batch with them, using my regular recipe and just not eat any, but I googled and found one that uses oats, which I have on hand.  I need to try some of the other flours out there, but I'm a little skittish!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 08, 2012, 05:22:08 PM
I made it to spin class and it was worth it.  Funny how hard it is to get there, but I never regret it.

Super sunny here today...mowed the lawns and now sitting on the deck enjoying a Lagunitas. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 08, 2012, 05:27:13 PM
We did a ton of yard work today, so that was my workout. I'm so tired right now, but I don't hurt, at least not yet. Eating has been okay - not great, but not horrible, so I'll take it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 08, 2012, 06:24:46 PM
Housework was my workout today!

And pizza - in moderation, with salad. Literally, salad pizza for one slice.  :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 08, 2012, 07:15:08 PM
I did 2 miles and some about work.  Also spent time in the pool with the kiddos.  I did sit outside on the deck for a bit and felt like I was literally melting in the heat.  Unbearable!  Looking forward to a cool down in weather.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 08, 2012, 09:32:12 PM
I ran this morning, started just after 9 with DD in the stroller and did 2 miles, then ran DD and Eddie back to the house and did another 2 faster.  It.was.so.hot.

I ate decently today, not great.  And now I'm stress eating b/c DH was stung by a hornet in the forest and managed to get himself to a gas station before the anaphylaxis started and he used the epi on himself.  He called me while he was rolling so I got EMS on the scene and was there in 10 minutes.  He's ok now, but holy shit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 08, 2012, 09:41:14 PM
Oh my gosh! I'm glad he's ok, but wow, what a scare!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 08, 2012, 09:59:11 PM
We did a ton of yard work today, so that was my workout. I'm so tired right now, but I don't hurt, at least not yet. Eating has been okay - not great, but not horrible, so I'll take it.

Same here! It's bulky trash pickup soon so we spent the day throwing crap on the curb.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 08, 2012, 10:01:54 PM
Thanks, cgraz.  It was very scary but thankfully his reaction wasn't too bad this time.  It stung him through his sock, that may be why.

My poor DD was saying things like "Papi, you can't die because I'll never find another Papi as sweet as you".   :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 08, 2012, 10:41:34 PM
Geez dev that is freaking scary!   So glad he is OK.  J is so sweet.   I would be stress eating too!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 09, 2012, 06:56:21 AM
omg! glad he had an epi pen on him!  :panic:

i grazed a lot yesterday, but nothing too terrible.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on July 09, 2012, 07:14:34 AM
Hey guys, haven't checked in here in a while (but I sometimes lurk).

I am going to drink a lot of DFW today.

That is all.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 09, 2012, 07:18:46 AM
I am working a Dunkin' Donuts iced coffee into my points for today. Just because I have to be on the road, working, on a beautiful summer day.

And because it's better than blowing like 2 meals worth of points on a frigging Coolatta. (Which I think they are rebranding as "frozen coffee" BTW, WTF? I would think Coffee Coolatta would be a really recognizable brand item that you wouldn't mess with. Guaranteed there will still be loads of loyal DD regulars ordering Coffee Coolattas. I won't be one of them though! Not since I looked up how many points are in one of those suckers.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 09, 2012, 09:11:30 AM
Bonita, enjoy the water.   :sneaking:

I need to run errands today if I can get motivated.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 10:04:28 AM
OMG, Dev, I'm SO glad he's okay! How scary! I'm DFW-ing today. Stupid period. We also had Mexican food last night, so I'm sure that's not helping, AND I'm sore from the yard work. Not excruciatingly sore (yay! the workouts must be helping!), but enough that I'm like, "Ooooh, haven't used those muscles like that in a while."
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 09, 2012, 10:50:50 AM
Dev, thank goodness he carries the epi pen with him.  Scary stuff.
Meri...good morning!
Deb...yard work always gets me. Especially weeding.
cgraz...is there sugar in the dd iced coffee?  I usually dont count coffee unless it has milk in it. I loved iced coffee on a hot day. 


So did Magic Microbe leave for real? I hope not...

I have today off, yay. We are talking about heading out to SUP and practice with the dogs, but it is a super foggy morning and hard to motivate.
Yesterday I went to spin, and my eating was good. I managed to lose a pound between weigh in's so I am feeling some spark of motivation.

I am sure we will head out soon to play, and hopefully I will get a workout in this afternoon.

Have a good day everyone. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 09, 2012, 10:53:59 AM
Mouse, questions on SUP!  Do I need a lesson?  Or could I rent the stuff and go play around?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 11:01:00 AM
Yeah, we pruned the rosebushes (they looked like crap), ripped out the dead shrubs in front of the house, scrubbed the shutters that had been hidden by the dead shrubs and were nasty looking, fed and watered the hell out of the roses, and then spread six bags of mulch over the roses and then in the area where the shrubs were. And cleaned up 95% of the mess we made.

 :sleepy:
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 09, 2012, 11:02:28 AM
Mouse, questions on SUP!  Do I need a lesson?  Or could I rent the stuff and go play around?
Courtney...you could totally rent the stuff and play around on it. Start on your knees to get the feel of the board, and then stand up. Viola!  Just be sure to ask what direction the paddle should face!  I see a lot of people with the paddle angled the wrong way.
It is really ver easy...especially on lakes, etc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 09, 2012, 11:02:59 AM
Yeah, we pruned the rosebushes (they looked like crap), ripped out the dead shrubs in front of the house, scrubbed the shutters that had been hidden by the dead shrubs and were nasty looking, fed and watered the hell out of the roses, and then spread six bags of mulch over the roses and then in the area where the shrubs were. And cleaned up 95% of the mess we made.

 :sleepy:
Wow!!!!!   :bow2: 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 11:29:37 AM
I'm flipping exhausted. :) But we had a limited amount of time to get it done, because the next two weeks are all about getting ready to leave for vacation on the 22nd. And luckily, the dead shrubs were REALLY dead, so we could literally grab the base and rip them out with our hands.
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Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 11:36:54 AM
Also, I just thought I'd mention how happy I am that cherries are in season right now. These things are AWESOME. The only thing that makes he happier is Honeycrisp apple season.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 09, 2012, 11:57:22 AM
Courtney...you could totally rent the stuff and play around on it. Start on your knees to get the feel of the board, and then stand up. Viola!  Just be sure to ask what direction the paddle should face!  I see a lot of people with the paddle angled the wrong way.
It is really ver easy...especially on lakes, etc.

Oh cool!  I'm glad to hear that.  I had visions of skiing in my head where I didn't take a lesson and wished I had.  I hate skiing now and have no interest in doing it again.  But I looooove the water and water sports, so I hope to really like this.  I will call to see if we need to reserve boards for the weekend we want to do it, or if we can just show up.  I'm excited :)  Thank you!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 09, 2012, 11:57:42 AM
Also, I just thought I'd mention how happy I am that cherries are in season right now. These things are AWESOME. The only thing that makes he happier is Honeycrisp apple season.

Yesterday I ate like $6 worth of Ranier cherries in one sitting.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 12:03:15 PM
Yeah, I could do that, easy. I think I had Bings as part of my snack just now and I'm like, "MUST. HAVE. MORE." Alas, there are no more. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 09, 2012, 12:33:06 PM
I am here. Turns out I have gained a pound and a half since falling off the ww wagon over a month ago. I jumped back on by going to my meeting Sunday and then running long.

I have decided to no longer post in yammering. The constant insults and nasty remarks were not good for me, antag, or our relationship.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on July 09, 2012, 12:45:35 PM
Anyone want some (brand new tags still on) capri's from skirtsports?   I impulse bought them on clearance last week and won't bother returning them to the US.  Too much hassle for store credit.  I will throw them in the mail if someone wants them though  :)   They are these ones size small in the dark grey colour. They run pretty big IMO more like a medium. 

http://www.skirtsports.com/shop/product.cfm/id/6002-Happy-Hour-Capri#.T_sGBPVOb3B (http://www.skirtsports.com/shop/product.cfm/id/6002-Happy-Hour-Capri#.T_sGBPVOb3B)
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Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 12:46:26 PM
Good job getting back on the wagon, MM. That's tough to do. Sorry to hear about Yammering - I'll miss you over there!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 09, 2012, 01:07:25 PM
The capris do run big, I noticed as well... 

Those are too small for me, tho!  Super comfy. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 09, 2012, 01:59:07 PM
I am here. Turns out I have gained a pound and a half since falling off the ww wagon over a month ago. I jumped back on by going to my meeting Sunday and then running long.

I have decided to no longer post in yammering. The constant insults and nasty remarks were not good for me, antag, or our relationship.

I know I've said it before, but I AM SOO glad things got back to normal here. I was about to jet. A lot of times I won't even open certain threads there because it can be so nasty. There is more to life than sniping people we don't know on an internet message board.

You focus on your relationship, because when it comes down to it, that's what matters. Not strangers yelling at each other for who knows what.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 02:13:46 PM
Tricia is, as usual, wise. :) And yeah, if this thread had disappeared, I don't know what I would have done. In the meantime, I'm having a hell of a time making my packing list for vacation. Hmph.  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 09, 2012, 02:19:29 PM
MM- good to see you back. :)


Anyone want some (brand new tags still on) capri's from skirtsports?   I impulse bought them on clearance last week and won't bother returning them to the US.  Too much hassle for store credit.  I will throw them in the mail if someone wants them though  :)   They are these ones size small in the dark grey colour. They run pretty big IMO more like a medium. 

http://www.skirtsports.com/shop/product.cfm/id/6002-Happy-Hour-Capri#.T_sGBPVOb3B (http://www.skirtsports.com/shop/product.cfm/id/6002-Happy-Hour-Capri#.T_sGBPVOb3B)
i just returned these!!!! i ordered black and got gray and they were WAYYYYY too big.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on July 09, 2012, 02:22:05 PM
i just returned these!!!! i ordered black and got gray and they were WAYYYYY too big.

Right? They really do run big.  They are cute though. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 09, 2012, 02:26:11 PM
Yoohoo!

MM, glad to see you haven't disappeared. I sometimes take a break from yammering too, and I go through long periods where I don't open any political threads, so I know where you're coming from. Just make sure to report on the wedding somewhere!

Yesterday was not great food wise (we went out for lunch: lobster roll and fries, sooooooo good!), but I'm back on the wagon today. Got groceries to take care of dinner tonight (pork tenderloin with figs, a sald and maybe cous cous) and breakfast and snackage for the work week. And I refrained from buying the chocolate at Trader Joe's, which I love but won't miss if it's not in the house.

I did run yesterday despite nasty mugginess. Now I'm relaxing on the porch.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 09, 2012, 02:35:59 PM
Right? They really do run big.  They are cute though.
maybe if i got the black ones i ordered  :eyeroll: LOL!

I generally stay out of political threads, but i got sucked into that one!! Well, MM was called a princess and i was called arrogant last week in the CH, that is a milestone for sure :D Since I have struggled so much with health insurance over the years, it is something i feel so strongly about.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 02:41:17 PM
I missed the princess comment, but yeah, that thread got ugly, fast. I feel pretty strongly about it, too - my niece would be uninsurable if she ever had to buy her own policy without the ACA - but jeeeeeez that got nasty.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 09, 2012, 02:42:42 PM
I missed the princess comment, but yeah, that thread got ugly, fast. I feel pretty strongly about it, too - my niece would be uninsurable if she ever had to buy her own policy without the ACA - but jeeeeeez that got nasty.
meh, just one person being the most nasty...... but i digress :D

this can be our CH! Awesome women of the CH hiding in the healthy eating thread cause no one can handle our awesomeness!!!

ok, gotta hop in the sauna. wheeee. took over an hour to get DD down for a nap  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 02:44:34 PM
At least she took a nap! Reid refused on Saturday.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 09, 2012, 02:54:52 PM
maybe if i got the black ones i ordered  :eyeroll: LOL!

I generally stay out of political threads, but i got sucked into that one!! Well, MM was called a princess and i was called arrogant last week in the CH, that is a milestone for sure :D Since I have struggled so much with health insurance over the years, it is something i feel so strongly about.

I got called a hell of a lot more than that and strangely enough I didn't call anyone any names but whatever...it is water under the bridge. I don't need to post there and it is healthier for me if I don't. Why I consider a group of people that live to call me nasty names and insult me friends is beyond me so I will no longer.

But I like yall so here I stay.  :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 09, 2012, 03:36:38 PM
We like you too, MM!

No nap days are the worst!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 09, 2012, 03:41:01 PM
I skipped the DD iced coffee because I didn't have time, which worked out ok because I met some customers to have lunch over sushi. All-you-can-eat sushi. And these girls like to eat sushi. I had a good bit of edamame and some salad, and now I'm just trying to remember how many pieces of sushi I had so I can sort of approximate my entry for the day. I had a small breakfast, and I think I'll still be full at dinner and will just have salad, so it all works out ok. Plus, we had lots of veggies in our rolls.

MM, are you doing WW? You mentioned a meeting...I just signed up last week for WW online. Are meetings helpful?

And don't get me started on political threads and name-calling. I like good political discussion (which most of that thread was for a while) but when it breaks down, I can't take it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 09, 2012, 04:01:26 PM
we have an all you can eat sushi buffet that my running partner is obsessed with (Minado, it is a chain) and I just love. We only go if we ran 20-30 miles that day :D DD loves it too, but sushi, when you add it up, is not as healthy as you would think it would be.

I have no inspiration to cook this week, probably because we are leaving early Friday. I hope we can scrounge up some meals between now and then. I made a thai lentil sweet potato soup, but i was the only one who wanted it. Guess i have lunch for the week!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 09, 2012, 04:08:54 PM
MM, are you doing WW? You mentioned a meeting...I just signed up last week for WW online. Are meetings helpful?

Yep. I find that the meetings motivate me. Probably just the act of showing up. I don't do well with online as I simply just don't follow it.  :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 09, 2012, 04:11:32 PM
It does seem like a higher level of accountability. I'm not sure I could show my face at a meeting and talk about all the sushi I ate today.

(But I am still full! I will have a salad for dinner!)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 09, 2012, 04:11:59 PM
when i went to meetings in grad school i really enjoyed them. i found them really fun and entertaining. My roommate and i went and we were by far the youngest ones there. It was a bunch of old Italian mommas and they were so funny. I learned a lot too about food items and recipes that i would not have otherwise at the time. i was very ignorant about portion control, etc, back then.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 04:14:38 PM
I did meetings for a long time, but then got to the point where I just wasn't getting anything out of them anymore, so I quit the whole thing. Online works better for me now. Along with telling people that I'm doing WW, so if they don't start seeing a change, I'll be busted for not doing it. :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 09, 2012, 04:43:52 PM
MM, glad to see you around here. 

Took the kids & DH with me shopping so it was freaking stressful and rushed.  I hate that.  I took a nap, because that is what I do when I have a mile long to do list.  Was woken up by lightening hitting either the house or very close.... haven't checked outside yet.  Knocked off power and a picture from the wall. Super freaky.

We had taco bell for lunch.  OMG I love tacos in a Doritos shell....what a genius idea!  So bad for me but yum.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on July 09, 2012, 06:14:18 PM
Hi kids.  I've been on summer vacation.  Well I am still on summer vacation, out at the lake with my family.  In years past, it's usually a 5lb vacation because there are always lots of snacks and cocktails and desserts.   This year, I've been doing a good job at drinking less, but I have been less stringent with my eating, at least for dinner and dessert.  It's vacation and I rarely let myself do this, so I might as well just enjoy myself because these splurges do not come home with me.   And I've been keeping up with my workouts 100%.  And I have been running up a whole lot of hills.  And an old guy at the little small town gym told me that I look strong today.  :D
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Post by: merigayle on July 09, 2012, 06:30:29 PM
Good job caito!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 09, 2012, 06:40:41 PM
Whew! Got the health insurance tentatively figured out, but we will be on three different plans w three different carriers!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 08:06:15 PM
Good job, caito! Meri, glad to hear it about the insurance. What a PITA! Acupuncture today was awesome. Had pizza for dinner, but I'm fine with that. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 09, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
I still have to get approved. Looks like DH will go on the better plan thru his work and DD can qualify for CHIP though we pay the premium in full (which is fine with me!) and I will get a BCBS HMO, as long as i get approved! DH's work plans suck, the crappy plan is affordable, the not crappy plan is wayyyyyyy too expensive for us, but just for him is cheap, because they pay some of his. Let's just hope i can get this all done by Aug 1st! I know the CHIP process is not the easiest, my friend just did it for her kids after her DH lost his job.
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Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 08:54:11 PM
 :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: Hope it all goes smoothly!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 09, 2012, 09:16:21 PM
Whoever mentioned cherries is a goddess for reminding me of the ones in the fridge.  We have bings and something called ruby orondo that I just hoovered.

And I am super happy to see you here, MM.   :bouquet:

I had a bag of tortilla chips in the house and snacked on them a bit over the last 3 days and it shows!  I still lost from my starting weight last week b/c of my period, but not as much came off as should have.  Holy guacamole!
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Post by: diablita on July 09, 2012, 09:16:51 PM
and thanks for the well wishes.  DH is ok today, happily.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 09, 2012, 10:19:23 PM
oh good! Glad everything turned out ok, Diablita.

Meri, that sucks about your insurance. DH and I are on two different plans with two different carriers as well. I hope you get approved. Talking with the underwriters was so stressful for me, because I didn't want to say anything that would cause them to deny me coverage, and I didn't want to lie either because they scare you by using words like fraud and stuff. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 09, 2012, 10:37:52 PM
OMG, I'm getting ready to buy a bathing suit.  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 10, 2012, 06:36:54 AM
Meri, I don't know how you do it. We go with mr. cgraz's plan (I have joked for years that I married him for the vision plan/dental plan/health insurance) but it isn't that great. (Don't get me started on how nothing was covered for our IVF and we can't afford to pay out of pocket to do it again.) Having to juggle 3 plans sounds complicated, but if it works out for better coverage, that is a good thing.

I have been ordering/returning bathing suits like crazy this year in anticipation of 2 weeks at the beach later this month. It sucks. There's no point for me to go to the store, since along with the rest of me, my bosoms have also grown in size and ordering DD tops is a must (and even those don't always work out).

So after yesterday's sushi splurge, one thing I noticed was that I was hit with that major carb coma feeling and was sluggish later in the afternoon. I have also noticed that since cutting down on sweets, I am not feeling that sugar crash feeling. Overall, eating better makes me feel better. Why do I not believe and appreciate this more when I am in the throes of making food choices?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 10, 2012, 07:42:31 AM
well, DH took his new job without finding out about the benefits and really shot us in the foot. the plan is crap, the not crap plan would be 1/2 his income  :o so this hopefully will all work out. his old HR woman told us Cobra would cost us $600/mo but it is over $1800, as that was his plan.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 09:14:50 AM
So, we'll see how these online purchases work out! If they don't, I'm screwed, because I'll only have a few days to revamp my packing list and get replacement stuff.  :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

Scale is holding steady - up a tiny bit this morning, but that's not a surprise, given we had pizza last night for dinner and my period is due any second.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 10, 2012, 10:53:08 AM
I need to shop for some swimming shorts, because I've officially talked my DH and his cousin into paddleboarding, and I don't need my ass in the air in my my swimsuit bottom.  Have you all had luck with those?  Do they have a liner/panty under them?  I'm going to go check out target/walmart to see what I can find, but I'll probably end up ordering something. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 11:01:15 AM
I've never bought any - can't find any in my size right now - but I think the vast majority do have a liner/panty.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 10, 2012, 11:29:39 AM
I'm normally very "I don't give a shit about how I look in a bathing suit because I'll be using it to swim" but in this case, I'd like to not be pulling my suit bottoms out of my ass crack every time I fall off the board, and a tiny bit of coverage on my ass would be a good thing.  :D 

I was going to maybe order one from Lands End if I can't find something locally.  I need to get on it, tho, because it's not far away. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 11:33:57 AM
Don't know what size you are, but I bought a suit from LE last night and they're low on a lot of colors and styles. I ended up getting a one-piece and I hope the damn thing fits!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 10, 2012, 11:35:45 AM
i just wear the swim skirts. i saw some the other day, i think at Target and at Sears (i was looking at Lands End, but they only had size 2 and 22, this was not in the Lands End section).

I am exhausted. DD is killing me. The past two nights she just would not go to sleep. I was so exhausted yesterday and i lost my patience with her. I am just dead tired and DH's solution? have her sleep in our bed. Um, that would not help, she just does not want to go to sleep. I do not know why. But I am exhausted and can barely move. I was going to do a short run today, but I just spent a lot of time on the CHIP application to get that in this afternoon for DD. Ugh. I am getting a massage at 1pm. 90 minutes  :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 11:39:11 AM
Meri, what's happening with her? Is she refusing to sleep if you're in her room? If you leave her alone? Sleep issues make me insane. I'm a raving bitch unless I get good rest. We're still dealing with the aftereffects of a nightmare Reid had over 2 weeks ago. It's killing me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 10, 2012, 11:44:20 AM
I actually got my butt out of bed to run this morning and did 5 milesw even though I am sore and wanted to just go back to bed. Right now the landscapers are out finishing the backyard so by tonight we will have a lovely yard with grass! Yay!!!!!

Oh and my (hopefully) final dress fitting is tonight. That sucker better fit right this time. After $500 worth of alterations I will be pissed if it doesn't fit like a damn glove. I still want to kill them for ordering it too big...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 10, 2012, 11:44:36 AM
i usually lay in her bed with her until she falls asleep. it usually takes about 5-10 mins after finishing our books, etc. The past two nights it was well over 90 minutes. Last night i was so beyond exhausted that i kept dozing off and she kept waking me. She is tossing and turning and then picking her nose and playing, etc. I ended up just sleeping in there because i was too tired to move, though i wake up a stiff mess. if i leave her in there she flips the fuck out and then DH gets mad at me that she is flipping out. Seriously? He has done ZERO nighttime parenting, except for one miserably failed night when she was like 1 month old. I am just really really cranky today. I have so much to do between now and when we leave and just not enough time. I am not sure why she is doing this, she did it at nap time yesterday too.  :argh: :argh: :argh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 10, 2012, 11:44:56 AM
I actually got my butt out of bed to run this morning and did 5 milesw even though I am sore and wanted to just go back to bed. Right now the landscapers are out finishing the backyard so by tonight we will have a lovely yard with grass! Yay!!!!!

Oh and my (hopefully) final dress fitting is tonight. That sucker better fit right this time. After $500 worth of alterations I will be pissed if it doesn't fit like a damn glove. I still want to kill them for ordering it too big...
:e) :e) :e)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
Ooooh, I would throw. down. with DH if he gave me shit about stuff like that. Can you warn him that this isn't working and you're going to have to maybe take a tougher approach? That is, of course, assuming that you're willing to do that?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 10, 2012, 11:49:49 AM
omg and DH just emailed me a car at work he wants to buy. it is a tiny little VW golf with 2 doors, just a month ago he was crying about needing a bigger car (he has a forester) and wanted a pickup truck.  :argh: :argh: i was like, is it 4WD? when it snows, i need to go to work and the subaru is the only way i can get there. I am ready to just crawl into bed and wake up tomorrow, except i have to go to work and i have a really busy day, which is good, but i am just tired!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 10, 2012, 11:50:30 AM
Ooooh, I would throw. down. with DH if he gave me shit about stuff like that. Can you warn him that this isn't working and you're going to have to maybe take a tougher approach? That is, of course, assuming that you're willing to do that?
nope. cause it has been set that she only wants me at night. i sent him there a few weeks ago when i felt like i was on my death bed and she flipped out worse.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on July 10, 2012, 11:51:36 AM
:e) :e) :e)

That was my reacton but it was either pay it or wear a dress that I paid a lot of money for that was 3 sizes too big. I don't know what the fuck was wrong with their size chart...it pisses me off...a lot.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 11:52:18 AM
What would he do if you took a tougher approach - where you did the hard part, like you already do, but it might mean that she loses her shit for a few nights while you work on it?

And MM, it's not unusual for bridal stores to do that. The alterations are where they make the money, unfortunately. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 10, 2012, 11:53:06 AM
omg and DH just emailed me a car at work he wants to buy. it is a tiny little VW golf with 2 doors, just a month ago he was crying about needing a bigger car (he has a forester) and wanted a pickup truck.  :argh: :argh: i was like, is it 4WD? when it snows, i need to go to work and the subaru is the only way i can get there. I am ready to just crawl into bed and wake up tomorrow, except i have to go to work and i have a really busy day, which is good, but i am just tired!

Dude...you are way nicer than me. He has a family now...people don't buy cars that don't fit their family.

Plus a VW Golf...yuck!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 10, 2012, 11:58:02 AM
What would he do if you took a tougher approach - where you did the hard part, like you already do, but it might mean that she loses her shit for a few nights while you work on it?

And MM, it's not unusual for bridal stores to do that. The alterations are where they make the money, unfortunately. :(

The whole thing just makes me very mad. They make a big deal about having you sign off on the measurements but then the dress comes in so far from those measurements that it isnt even funny. I wanted to go find someone else to alter it but it was going to be expensive because they had to resew the whole damn dress. It was literally falling off of me.
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Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 11:59:39 AM
Oh, I'd be pissed off, too. I'm just saying that it's not uncommon, which totally sucks.
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Post by: VP of Tea on July 10, 2012, 12:00:01 PM
Plus, the Forrester rocks!
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Post by: merigayle on July 10, 2012, 12:17:26 PM
What would he do if you took a tougher approach - where you did the hard part, like you already do, but it might mean that she loses her shit for a few nights while you work on it?

And MM, it's not unusual for bridal stores to do that. The alterations are where they make the money, unfortunately. :(
i don't think i could do that to her. and she is big enough to get out of her bed and open doors, LOL.

yes, the Forester is like the best and most reliable car, especially in snow. ugh.

MM- that just sucks, i understand you had to pay it, but it sucks.
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Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 12:32:42 PM
LOL!!!! By "tougher approach" I mean something like sitting on the floor next to her bed for a set amount of time - even if it's 30 minutes - or reducing the amount of interaction you have with her while she's going to sleep. We've started telling Reid that we'll sit in the chair in his room, but it's time to sleep so we won't say anything except, "I love you, it's time to sleep, put your head down and rest."
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Post by: cgraz on July 10, 2012, 12:38:32 PM
I know this is going to sound ridiculous, but have you ever watched that super nanny show? She does a lot about bedtimes and reinforcing without talking/giving attention. I think she is a toddler whisperer. I'm sure they never show any times where it doesn't work, and they definitely show the time lapse that it takes a long while, but it seems like it helps if it is done over time. (I realize I may be talking out my ass and you have probably tried that stuff, so sorry if it sounds dumb.)

As for swim skirts or shorts, I just put on some kind of board shorts that dry fast over my regular bottoms.
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Post by: onawhim on July 10, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
Why not tri shorts? 
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Post by: Courtney on July 10, 2012, 01:15:02 PM
Why not tri shorts? 

I don't have any :)  They would probably work, but I'm not a fan of the pad in those, even as thin as it is...  TMI coming:  I tend to get yeast infections easily, so I shy away from those because the last two times I wore them for something I got one. 

Where would I find board shorts? 
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Post by: merigayle on July 10, 2012, 03:10:26 PM
we don't really have tv, so i have not seen the nanny show. i was thinking about putting the rocker back in her room. oh and DH wanted ME to buy that car, i was like, it is a 2 door, if i wanted a 2 door, i would have never sold my mini, he did not realize it was a 2 door but was all excited it was a TDI and he knows i love biodiesel, LOL
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Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 03:19:33 PM
LOL about the car - I can't imagine getting a kid in and out of a car seat with a two-door. I know people do it, but I'd crack my head on the door frame, daily.

That sucks about the sleep issues. If you think the gradual method would work with her - sitting in the chair, moving the chair away from the bed, then out in the hall, etc. - then I'd go for it. But then, I'm awful without sleep.
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Post by: merigayle on July 10, 2012, 04:26:01 PM
it was ok in Mini until she was no longer in the infant seat, which was easy to put in and out of the car. I just gave up one day and was tired of putting her in thru the trunk, LOL. I did love that car.
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Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 04:31:21 PM
Yeah, I could see making it work with the bucket seat, if you can already strap the kid in before putting it in the car, but not with a convertible.

All this trip planning is making me want to eat. :( I'm not going to, because, well, I can't get anything "good" here, but I really, really want to.
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Post by: triciaflower on July 10, 2012, 07:33:36 PM
I'm making spaghetti sauce and it smells sooooooo good. Making rice pasta to go with it. Thinking I won't make two pastas, because DH tried my noodles and liked them. YES!
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Post by: diablita on July 10, 2012, 07:44:43 PM
Tricia, I love it when I make a veg dish that I don't think my family will like and they love it.  score.

meri, I have a feeling that if your DH got involved in DD's bedtime a few nights in a row she'd acquiesce.  Are they flying out with you to Badwater?  He must do the bedtime parenting while you're doing overnight runs, right?  Can he string a couple together?


So I went out for a short run in b/w conference calls at lunchtime and twisted my ankle badly.  It was so silly -- I was rounding a turn to my house, looked up and saw DH at the mailbox (just home from a lunch meeting).  So happy to see him I stopped concentrating, foot went off the side of the road and WHAM.  My foot twisted badly, middle is bruised and swollen and I'm scraped and bruised all over b/c of the way I went over sideways.   :-\
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Post by: merigayle on July 10, 2012, 08:07:42 PM
hope the ankle feels better soon! she is fine if i am not there, otherwise she only wants me.
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Post by: Coyzmum on July 10, 2012, 08:49:55 PM
Oh no Diablita, I hope your ankle heals soon.  I know it's painful.

Meri, I have no advice for you, both of mine still sleep with us.  My DD who is four informed us last night that she would sleep in her own bed when she is 25.  I told her I thought she might change her mind before then.   :sleep:  I sympathize too as my husband has never done nighttime duty either.  I often sympathize with you because our husbands sounds similar in regard to the kid(s).   :)

Magic Microbe, I'm glad you are still here also.  Don't let those yammerers get you down.  Easy for me to say, I never contribute anything.  I have stuff to say, but am either too chicken or too late usually to comment.   :d
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Post by: debbatx on July 10, 2012, 09:44:00 PM
Meri, I'm only kind of joking here, but could you just take off and go to Barnes and Noble or something for a few nights? Make DH deal with it and maybe break the habit with Zoe a little?

Then again, if you're cool with the situation, PLEASE ignore me.

Went to the gym tonight - almost threw up when the trainer cranked up the treadmill, but managed not to. I need to come up with a better dinner for my training nights.
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Post by: merigayle on July 11, 2012, 07:36:54 AM
Debba- not at 9:30! LOL. Coyzmum, we just moved DD to her bed this spring. DD went to be a little easier last night, I, however, woke up at 1am and was up until 4am thinking about all the shit i have to do before we leave. I think it is a 2 tyl pm night tonight!!!
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 11, 2012, 09:09:57 AM
I need to shop for some swimming shorts, because I've officially talked my DH and his cousin into paddleboarding, and I don't need my ass in the air in my my swimsuit bottom.  Have you all had luck with those?  Do they have a liner/panty under them?  I'm going to go check out target/walmart to see what I can find, but I'll probably end up ordering something. 
Yay!!!!!
If you can't find anything at target etc try Title Nine online.  They have some cute stuff and they fit well.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 11, 2012, 09:11:51 AM
I actually got my butt out of bed to run this morning and did 5 milesw even though I am sore and wanted to just go back to bed. Right now the landscapers are out finishing the backyard so by tonight we will have a lovely yard with grass! Yay!!!!!

Oh and my (hopefully) final dress fitting is tonight. That sucker better fit right this time. After $500 worth of alterations I will be pissed if it doesn't fit like a damn glove. I still want to kill them for ordering it too big...
good job MM.  Bust a move until the wedding....give it your all.   Hope the fitting went well.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 11, 2012, 09:19:50 AM


So I went out for a short run in b/w conference calls at lunchtime and twisted my ankle badly.  It was so silly -- I was rounding a turn to my house, looked up and saw DH at the mailbox (just home from a lunch meeting).  So happy to see him I stopped concentrating, foot went off the side of the road and WHAM.  My foot twisted badly, middle is bruised and swollen and I'm scraped and bruised all over b/c of the way I went over sideways.   :-\

Ouch.  :buttpat:  I hope it heals quick.  I did  that once on a cross country run, fell to the ground wailing thinking I had royally f'ed up my ankle. DH runs back and after a minute or so I stand up...fine. I ran the rest of the way. I hope you heal as quickly as I did!

My training session was good yesterday. I am getting ready to go run before work.  Today they are doing a fish fry at work. I made cold slaw. With vinegar not mayo. I will try and be as good as possible.
The fog is bumming me out.
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 10:41:36 AM
The scale was looking good this morning - yay! Great workout at the gym last night. Reid woke up in the middle of the night, though. :( Wasn't too surprised, we had a huge storm roll through right around his bedtime, so I half expected it.

MM, great job on the running! Hope the fitting went well.

Diablita, hope your ankle is feeling better - ouch! I've done stuff like that before.  :nono: Take it easy for a few days.

Meri, sorry, I was thinking she went to bed earlier than that. And make a big list of stuff you need to remember for this weekend so it doesn't keep you awake!
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Post by: merigayle on July 11, 2012, 10:53:51 AM
i do have a big list! i have a notebook of lists! LOL
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Post by: triciaflower on July 11, 2012, 10:57:28 AM
I am happy to say that after one month of my new eating plan I am down 8 pounds.

It's not much, but I FEEL so much better.  :roll:  So excited that I'm seeing progress. I hate seeing the scale go up and down, but it's nice to see a downward trend over the last few weeks. Now if I can just get my running back on track.
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 11:17:43 AM
Tricia, that's awesome - congrats!!! I took a look at the big progress chart on WW last weekend and was shocked to realize I was down 20 lbs since the end of January.

A. I was REALLY fat at the end of January.
B. I honestly had no idea how much I'd lost.
C. I WISH IT WAS MORE DAMNED OBVIOUS!!!!
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Post by: merigayle on July 11, 2012, 11:30:41 AM
great job Tricia and Debba!!! In 7 months, I am down 7 pounds  :eyeroll:
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Post by: triciaflower on July 11, 2012, 11:32:24 AM
WOW!!! 20 lbs. That is amazing. It's nice to see the overall picture. Stories like yours are super inspirational! It's not gonna happen overnight, huh.  :D

For the longest time, my goals were lose x amount of weight in x amount of time, with no regards as to HOW I was going to achieve that. I would fail, then think meh. Whatever. I want fries.

This time, I only focused on controlling the food. I made THAT my goal. One meal at a time, it had to contain foods in my plan. The weight loss is not the end goal, I need to change my eating habits. Sunday I was craving a burger and fries. BAD. So we grilled up burgers and potatoes. A burger and "fries," yes, but way healthier than Five Guys. And I didn't feel gross after.
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 11:40:46 AM
Yep, that's pretty much what I've done - I haven't gone so far as to cut out gluten or anything, but I've really focused in getting my veggies, made some swaps in other areas, and thought a lot about portion control and what the word "moderation" actually means.

We're going on vacation on the 22nd, and I'm *determined* to make good choices while we're gone, both with food and exercise. I'm not taking running shoes, because I don't know that I'd be able to run at 8500-ish feet, but we're planning on walking and hiking and being active throughout the day as much as we can. I should be okay. I think. I've seriously contemplated asking the hotel if they can put a scale in our bathroom. :D

And yeah, even with that 20 pounds gone, I still have about 60 to go. *sigh* But right now, I'm just taking it 5 at a time.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on July 11, 2012, 11:46:49 AM
The dress fitting went ok. They still aren't done with it. It still needs to be taken in a ton more around the boobs and they need to fix the beading around the areas that they worked. The lady that was lacing it up kept saying "oh you just need to tighten the laces and it will fit right"...by the time she got done I couldn't breathe, she had given me massive back fat spillover and the boob area was still far too massive for my moderately sized ones. It should be ready to go next week. I don't know who that thing was made for but they apparently have gigantic boobs.

Our yard is finished and it looks amazing. I love, love, love looking out at grass instead of pea gravel full of dirt and weeds.
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Post by: merigayle on July 11, 2012, 11:51:42 AM
i hope they get it right soon, MM!
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 11:51:51 AM
Glad the fitting went pretty well - you *definitely* want to be able to breathe! And we had our yard done in May - isn't it great to look into your yard and think, "Yay!" instead of "OMG, that's hideous"?
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Post by: Magic Microbe on July 11, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
Glad the fitting went pretty well - you *definitely* want to be able to breathe! And we had our yard done in May - isn't it great to look into your yard and think, "Yay!" instead of "OMG, that's hideous"?

Hell yes!

(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c157.0.403.403/p403x403/602263_3743421178894_748972216_n.jpg)
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/527954_3743418698832_824688092_n.jpg)

The flagstone patio is new (there was just gravel outside our dining room sliding glass door), the retaining wall is new (replacing one that was rotten railroad ties), the planter around the lemon bush and along the house is new (we will soon get plants in that one), and the grass is new. The bank is unfinished because I didnt want to rip my veggies out. We will finish it in the fall.
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Post by: onawhim on July 11, 2012, 12:03:34 PM
Your yard looks fabulous!
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 12:21:10 PM
That looks great!!! We still have a lot of work to do in our yard, but we'll get there. It's too hot to do anything else this summer, and we haven't decided exactly what we want yet, either.
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Post by: merigayle on July 11, 2012, 12:25:28 PM
Looks great, MM

did you look at the ESPN bodies link? there were a couple of women who weighed a decent amount, that is always nice to see.
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Post by: Courtney on July 11, 2012, 12:39:45 PM
I am happy to say that after one month of my new eating plan I am down 8 pounds.

It's not much, but I FEEL so much better.  :roll:  So excited that I'm seeing progress. I hate seeing the scale go up and down, but it's nice to see a downward trend over the last few weeks. Now if I can just get my running back on track.

It's amazing, isn't it?  I'm down about 8 as well, and I think I've been gluten free for about 6 weeks total now (that seems like a long time, so maybe I'm off base).  And for about two (maybe three now) of those weeks, I haven't really been keeping track of points, other than in my head, which never works.  :D 

TMI ahead:  I'm still not super regular, but I don't feel bloated/gassy/etc all the time, which I did before.  Like, my stomach constantly hurt, which is clear now that it does not. 
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Post by: Courtney on July 11, 2012, 12:42:08 PM
Yep, that's pretty much what I've done - I haven't gone so far as to cut out gluten or anything, but I've really focused in getting my veggies, made some swaps in other areas, and thought a lot about portion control and what the word "moderation" actually means.

We're going on vacation on the 22nd, and I'm *determined* to make good choices while we're gone, both with food and exercise. I'm not taking running shoes, because I don't know that I'd be able to run at 8500-ish feet, but we're planning on walking and hiking and being active throughout the day as much as we can. I should be okay. I think. I've seriously contemplated asking the hotel if they can put a scale in our bathroom. :D

And yeah, even with that 20 pounds gone, I still have about 60 to go. *sigh* But right now, I'm just taking it 5 at a time.

You are going to Vail, right?  I'm pretty sure they have great big sidewalks and you can rent bikes.  I always want to do that up there. 

You would probably not run well at 8500 feet, since you are coming from Texas.  :D  I don't know the elevation there, but I feel the altitude, and I'm already at roughly 5280 ft! 
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 12:46:21 PM
Yeah, we'll be at Vail. We had a house in southern CO when I was a kid, and that place was at ~9000 ft. I think Vail is similar - I remember it always took a few days to get used to going up and down the stairs, so I'm planning on walking and hiking a lot, maybe doing some yoga, and not torturing myself by trying to run. :D

My parents have been there and swear that everything is really walkable, they have great paths and sidewalks, etc., so I'm really looking forward to it. Probably won't bother with bikes, just because I'm a bad cyclist on my best day, and we'd have to have Reid with us. I don't mind putting myself at risk, but I'm not going to take a chance with him!
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Post by: Run Amok on July 11, 2012, 12:53:11 PM
Congrats debba and tricia! It's all about the long game, isn't it?

MM_ your back yard looks great! I'm sure you guys will get much more use out of that!
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Post by: Courtney on July 11, 2012, 01:26:44 PM
Yeah, we'll be at Vail. We had a house in southern CO when I was a kid, and that place was at ~9000 ft. I think Vail is similar - I remember it always took a few days to get used to going up and down the stairs, so I'm planning on walking and hiking a lot, maybe doing some yoga, and not torturing myself by trying to run. :D

My parents have been there and swear that everything is really walkable, they have great paths and sidewalks, etc., so I'm really looking forward to it. Probably won't bother with bikes, just because I'm a bad cyclist on my best day, and we'd have to have Reid with us. I don't mind putting myself at risk, but I'm not going to take a chance with him!

Vail is beautiful :)  The drive there will be beautiful.  Colorado is darn hard to beat for scenery!  It will be a nice temperature change for you, too!  Bring jackets.  :)
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 01:31:41 PM
DH and I went to Breckenridge for a few days a few summers back, for a wedding. It was awesome. I do love CO - we spent so much time there when I was growing up. I miss it. The drive there will be fucking terrifying. My parents are picking up all of us at the Denver airport and driving from there. My dad is 83 and an... interesting driver.  :e) :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

If we survive the car ride, we'll be good to go. :D
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 01:36:51 PM
Congrats debba and tricia! It's all about the long game, isn't it?

MM_ your back yard looks great! I'm sure you guys will get much more use out of that!

It is about the long game, but when you have as much to lose as I do, it's also about the short game. Because if I'm only focused on 60 pounds... that's a lot to lose and a LONG way off in the future before I get there. Over a year, if I average a pound a week. So I can't think of it like that. I have to take it 5 pounds at a time, and sometimes one pound at a time, and sometimes, one meal choice at a time. It does add up - see that part about 20 pounds since January - but if I only focus on the 60, it's too far away for me to give a shit about it *today.* But the next 5 pounds, and the reward that comes with it? Yeah, that I can focus on, because that's maybe a few weeks.
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 02:36:10 PM
Wow. I also just realized I've taken three points off my BMI since the end of January. Dang. I'm still firmly in the obese category, but at least it's moving the right direction.
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Post by: triciaflower on July 11, 2012, 02:46:24 PM

TMI ahead:  I'm still not super regular, but I don't feel bloated/gassy/etc all the time, which I did before.  Like, my stomach constantly hurt, which is clear now that it does not. 

How about adding in flax, hemp hearts, or prunes?
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Post by: VP of Tea on July 11, 2012, 03:02:48 PM
Wow. I also just realized I've taken three points off my BMI since the end of January.

That's awesome!

Things are holding steady here, I think. I haven't stepped on a scale today. But Monday night (after the weigh in) I saw a 'new' number again, which was nice. Though as my DH pointed out, I had actually seen that number before, on the way up!  :roll:

Tricia, when we have fries at home, we always make them in the oven. I consider myself a fry connaisseur (ahem) and those are pretty much the best fries I have had that were not fried in lard or olive oil. Let me know if you want the method (it's super simple, but we get consistently good results).
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 03:04:09 PM
Even if Tricia doesn't want to know the method, I DO!! And thanks. :) I was pretty happy when I saw that.
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 03:09:19 PM
Holy SHIT.

I'd forgotten that I was tracking measurements for a while there. I've lost 3 inches off my waist since November, an inch of my bust, and an inch off my hips. Yay!!!
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Post by: triciaflower on July 11, 2012, 03:20:47 PM
NICE!!

Now I wish I'd taken my measurements. I guess I can do it tonight.

Potatoes are off my list, but since I do still indulge in them sparingly, I DO want to know your methods of cooking them, VP!
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 03:28:57 PM
I hadn't done measurements in a long time, but I did the other night when I ordered some stuff for the trip. The numbers are pretty fresh in my head, so I figured I should take a look. I'm thrilled about the waist measurement. I wish my hips would follow suit!
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Post by: cgraz on July 11, 2012, 03:45:33 PM
Great progress! It is so true that focusing on the small goals really helps. I was surprised how happy I was about that first couple of pounds. Just to feel like things are going in the right direction is a victory.

MM, your yard looks great! I hope the dress fittings come along and it fits perfectly when the big day comes around.

Just trying to get through this afternoon without caving in to the snack attack. This is the time when I would graze, and if I can't resist then I need to have something like fruit instead of junk. I have good stuff in the house - but still a few too many temptations. When I'm home all day, I've noticed that I seem hungrier or think about snacking more, but I really think it's about not being as busy as when I'm out and about all day.
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 03:49:15 PM
Yeah, boredom snacking kicks my ass every time, along with "habit" snacking. I've had to watch out for both.  :grr:

And thank you!
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Post by: VP of Tea on July 11, 2012, 03:54:14 PM
Perfect oven fries. The secret is in the 4 R’s  (ok, the fourth is really not an R)

Russet potatoes
Rack
Rotate
(Re) Circulate

Pre-heat the oven to 400-degrees, convection if you can.

We don’t usually peel the potatoes, but it works either way. Cut the potatoes in slices (I like them slightly thick, more than ¼ inch), then in strips.

Toss the fries with olive oil (don’t be shy), salt and pepper (and other spices if you like though we never do)

Put a cookie cooling rack on top of a cookie sheet and spread the fries out in a single layer on top of the rack. Single layer is crucial.

Put in the oven for about 15 mins.

Rotate the sheet-with-rack-on-top and bake for another 15 mins, checking before the 15 mins are up to make they aren’t over-done.

Voila, perfect fries! Consume with mayonnaise for best results!  :D
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 04:03:41 PM
Wait, where are you rotating them to?
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Post by: VP of Tea on July 11, 2012, 04:21:29 PM
Wait, where are you rotating them to?


:roll:

Around their own axis, 180 degrees. So left is right, front is back. In case the oven has hot spots, even with convection.
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Post by: diablita on July 11, 2012, 04:25:03 PM
yes, I want fries with that ;)

Congrats to all the weight losers!  What great successes.

And thanks for the well wishes.  I'm not sure if I fell or if I was run over...hopefully it's 'day after' pain that will soon go away.
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Post by: triciaflower on July 11, 2012, 04:29:46 PM
Mayo!  :yikes:  Actually not that surprised. I learned that fact from Pulp Fiction.  :D

Cookie Rack!! WHY have I never thought of this before? That makes perfect sense. I usually have a problem with them sticking and getting mushy. OMG. I so need to make these soon. I bet they'd be good with sweet potatoes too, maybe?
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Post by: Courtney on July 11, 2012, 04:41:17 PM
Mayo!  :yikes:  Actually not that surprised. I learned that fact from Pulp Fiction.  :D

Cookie Rack!! WHY have I never thought of this before? That makes perfect sense. I usually have a problem with them sticking and getting mushy. OMG. I so need to make these soon. I bet they'd be good with sweet potatoes too, maybe?

Yes, this would be good with sweet potatoes, too!  I actually also saw a thing the other day for crispy sweet potato fries, where you dip the fries in egg yolk before baking in a similar method. 

I do home fries a lot, and even without the cookie rack, I do high heat in the oven and they crisp up nicely. 

Debba, well done, my friend.  Well done.  :) 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 11, 2012, 04:41:57 PM
How about adding in flax, hemp hearts, or prunes?

I only really know what one of those things are.  :D  I'm going to Sprouts tonight, so I'll look for the others. 
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Post by: debbatx on July 11, 2012, 04:54:04 PM
 :-[

Thanks, Courtney!

I'm already trying to figure out how to tweak things again. I lost a point at my last weigh-in, so I'm going to have to futz with stuff a little.
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Post by: triciaflower on July 11, 2012, 06:09:13 PM
I get the Bob's red mill flax meal. Then throw a spoon in my cereal along with the hemp. Costco has Hemp now!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on July 11, 2012, 06:54:36 PM
I get the Bob's red mill flax meal. Then throw a spoon in my cereal along with the hemp. Costco has Hemp now!

What does the flax meal taste like?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 11, 2012, 06:57:52 PM
A bit nutty. I think it's why I like it in cereal, as opposed to a smoothie.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BonitaApplebum on July 11, 2012, 07:13:28 PM
Well, I'm a bit nutty, so it's probably a fit.
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Post by: merigayle on July 11, 2012, 07:27:53 PM
I use just a little sometimes in baking, no flavor detected.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 12, 2012, 08:10:19 AM
ate like crap yesterday, down 1.5lbs  :confused:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 12, 2012, 09:06:37 AM
Made it through fish fry at work day yesterday without too much damage. I decide to go to spin class after work, trying to get a routine established again. It was a good class.

Meri...just go with it!   :d

My eating plan is to stay small today!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 12, 2012, 10:08:19 AM
Diablita, hope you heal quickly!
Debba, holy cow!  Way to go on the loss!
MM, love the new yard.
Meri, any loss is a loss.
VP, you're a genius.  I'm gonna try your method.

I've been slack on running but with the slightly cooler weather I got in 3 miles with the dog.  I have been doing great with push ups & abs.  Food yesterday was horrible.... assuming a blueberry & peach cobbler is bad dinner.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 12, 2012, 10:49:25 AM
But blueberries are a superfood! Yeah!  ;)
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Post by: debbatx on July 12, 2012, 11:50:46 AM
Just found out we're having a goodbye party for my boss this afternoon. Not exactly sure what will be there, but I'm going to do my best to behave. :D Took Reid to the dentist  this morning, and honestly, if that didn't send me into an ice cream binge, nothing will. He did really well, but he was NOT happy about it. No screaming or tantruming, just silent teeth clenching, eyes shut tight, and clinging to me as much as possible. I love his dentist. Nothing fazes him.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on July 12, 2012, 12:35:54 PM
I am up a half pound this week.

I ate pad Thai for dinner last night (well, half of it).  And was starving 2 hours later and went through a third of a bag of dried fruit.  Which was unsatisfying.  I should have just made a scrambled egg or something.

And because I didn't feel like going to the grocery store in the pouring rain last night (and it's still pouring rain), I think I am going to order in a pizza for lunch today.

And all my plans this week involve food.  Including me making homemade mac and cheese for a party Saturday (that conflicts with the hash run, but I already RSVPed for the party and I will get to hang with my cycling peeps and watch some Tour d'France coverage).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 12, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
My trainer texted and said to be there at 7, to meet him at the back of the Y, and "bring water." I'll be outside in the YMCA parking lot having my ass kicked tonight, should anyone need me.  :panic:
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Post by: Bolloxd on July 12, 2012, 05:22:38 PM
Deb how has he been since you confronted him about the texts?
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Post by: triciaflower on July 12, 2012, 05:24:32 PM
Good luck getting your ass kicked!!! You'll do great.
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Post by: debbatx on July 12, 2012, 05:28:45 PM
Bolloxd, he's been fine - thanks for checking. Things are pretty much back to normal, although my antennae are definitely still up. :) And thanks, Tricia! When he says something like that, it's vaguely terrifying, because I'm going to hurt tomorrow. We've been focusing on getting me in better shape for vacation, and it's really helped.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 12, 2012, 06:03:48 PM
Speaking of ass kickings...

My trainer gave us a killer upper body workout today.  The lower body part was not easy, but my upper body still feels all OMG-WTF right now.

We did 5 body parts.  Biceps, triceps, shoulders, chest, and back.  We could all pick the move we wanted to do, but we did a set of 10, short rest, another set of 10, short rest, then a set of 30.  THIRTY.   :yikes:  I did pushups using the squat rack bar, at a lower setting than I've been using (I'm getting stronger, and closer to doing real pushups!), then bicep curls, then side lateral raises for shoulders, lat pull downs, and mikeys for my triceps.  Jeebus. 

Then we did abs, and we were all swearing at him by the end.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 12, 2012, 06:32:39 PM
Here's to good workouts! I will get mine later - yoga class tonight. And it's not the zen ohm kind of yoga. The class is called Yoga Blend and it's a few different styles blended together. A little bit of flow, a little vinyasa, and a lot of sweating. We have a great teacher, and he breaks things down really well to build up to the harder moves.

And I need it today. Went out to lunch with a friend and tried to make a good choice, but I think it was still pretty big for lunch...a panini with grilled chicken, mozzarella, and roasted red pepper. No gooey sauce or anything, and there wasn't a ton of cheese, but I realized after how much bread counts for. I did have mixed greens on the side, so good veggies. And the sandwich was grilled with just a little olive oil, so not terrible. I followed it up with a frozen coffee, skim. Again, not terrible, but it added up. It was a late lunch, so I haven't eaten anything else and might just have a yogurt or something after yoga, so it should all even out in the end, points-wise. Still, even though it will end up within points, having so much at one meal feels like a lot, compared to the smaller meals I've been having.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 12, 2012, 08:49:47 PM
debba is currently getting her ass kicked   :nails:

I was super good all day but am snacking a little.  I feel a little better today, thank you everyone.  I honestly felt like I'd been in a car wreck yesterday, from the impact.  I can't even figure out how I got some of the bruises.  My right foot (the one that twisted) is pretty bad BUT the ice worked and it didn't swell much.  Just a strain, I'm sure.  So I just need to give it a few days.  And I torqued my left knee as well, so it'll appreciate the rest, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on July 12, 2012, 09:30:51 PM
Okay, a few days later into one and a half weeks of summer vacation, I'm feeling less good about my eating.  I'm great until about 4 or 5pm when the snacks and drinks come out.  I've been very successful about cutting way back on booze, but I can't resist the stupid pretzels and tortilla chips.  And then dinner is never junk, but it's definitely a bigger meal than what I would make at home.  And there's more little things for dessert here. 

 I know that a week and half is a short period of time, but it is just feeling long right now.  I don't feel great about some of my choices to keep eating snacks but I am having trouble changing my behavior.  Maybe that's a true sign of vacation mode?  I don't think I'm going way overboard, it's just that I had been really disciplined before I got here.  Well, 3 days left.  I should really focus on the successes like cutting back on the drinking.  That's a pretty big thing for me.  And my workouts have been great though, and what I love about vacation is all the time to work out and run long and recover well.
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Post by: debbatx on July 12, 2012, 09:37:02 PM
 :whoa:

That is all.
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Post by: triciaflower on July 12, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
You know what happens when you don't plan dinner and you and DH both get home at 8pm and are super starving and want to eat NOW?

Whataburger happens.  :D  ah well. It was TOTALLY worth it. I had to fight slight feelings of guilt and inadequacy but in the end I was fine. Now to go cook and pack my breakfast and lunch for tomorrow so I won't be tempted to hit chick fi la.

Onward!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 13, 2012, 07:46:42 AM
It happens.  :)  I just keep thinking of what I read on the WW site somewhere...I didn't get fat from one meal, and one meal isn't going to make me fat all over again. All the good things you're doing won't be undone by one burger.  :)

Friday weigh-in day for me...down another 3 lbs. I know the first couple of weeks you tend to see big changes, so I hope I can  just keep some momentum and I don't get frustrated if it slows down.

Next week will probably not have much of a loss, because I'll be at yearbook camp. Cafeteria food (beige, featuring corn as veggie), frozen yogurt machine (!), and wine and snacks when we're back in the dorm in the evenings. I have some strategies in mind to help keep me on track...fruit at breakfast, salad bar, and portion control with snack packs of Special K Chips (I love these) and Sun Chips. And we walk a lot to get around campus.

How is the ankle, diablita?

Sore today, debba?

I think the vacation stuff evens out, caito...doing more running and being more active is great, and a little bit of snacking feels extravagant because you are usually so disciplined. Cutting back on the booze is a great win. Can you try allowing yourself only one or two handfuls of chips and limiting it? I have a hard time in those situations too. What is it about chips and salsa?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 13, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
Yeah, Whataburger happened a lot at our house for a while. :D

Great job, cgraz!!

I'm not sore yet, but I can feel it coming. Oof. I need to figure out how to tweak my lunches a little, I think. My last weigh-in meant I lost a point, so I need to adjust a few things. You wouldn't think one point would be that big of a deal, but it can be, and it's more that I'm hoping to lose more points in the future, so making small adjustments now will be easier than having to make giant changes later, you know? Hmmmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 13, 2012, 12:37:51 PM
Today for my lunch I made myself a salad with feta, dried cranberries, and chicken. So I'm looking forward to that and trying not to think of creamy Thai curry. Which is what I really want right now.

I've been (very slightly) PMSing for the last few days and I've been craving comfort foods.  :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 13, 2012, 12:50:00 PM
Yeah, I've been craving comfort foods, too. I'm trying, when I think of something that's a comfort food for me, to remember the number on the scale. To get that number to flash really really big in my mind's eye and to then ask myself if I really want to fuck this up. The answer is usually no. It seems to help, a little. Doesn't mean I don't want the food, it just means I want the numbers more.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 13, 2012, 01:04:48 PM
I just had a really nice lunch of charentais melon with smoked prosciutto and two small slices of bread. It was goooood. And ice tea.

Tonight we will probably have 'bistro meal': the aforementioned oven fries, thin pan fried steak and greens. It's one of my favorites.

Debba, good work on the number taking precedence over the comfort food!
Caito, you always seem to be really hard on yourself to me (but then, I have no discipline, so there is that). 10 days vacation isn't going to derail your goals if you snack a little more than normal, especially with reduced alcohol and great exercise!
Tricia, your lunch salad sounds good! though I'm more of a chevre eater than feta myself.
cgraz, 3 lbs, wow!  :bow2: I'm only holding steady this week, but I'm hoping for a small loss by Monday. We shall see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 13, 2012, 01:07:45 PM
If it's cheese, I'll eat it. There are very few I don't like, and I adore both feta and chevre. Mmmmmmmm. Cheese.

I'm running out to Old Navy at lunch to get a second pair of jeans for the trip. I think I'm going to hit Subway on the way back for lunch today. It seems to be the best option right now. Not *great,* but then we're having pasta and steamed veggies tonight for dinner, so I should be okay.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 13, 2012, 02:14:19 PM
yeah.. i debated whether I should use the last of the chèvre or throw feta on top. The feta was fat free, so I opted for that because I had the fatty Whataburger last night! haha. Like that's gonna make a difference.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 13, 2012, 02:53:51 PM
Does chevre = goat cheese?

Because I'll put crumbled goat cheese on nearly everything. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 13, 2012, 02:57:48 PM
LOL, I like that logic! And yes, chevre is goat cheese. Mmmmmmmmm.

Subway for lunch with BBQ Baked Lays. Eh. Probably not my best, but certainly not the worst thing I could have had. If I've managed to screw up my weigh-in for tomorrow, I'll be pissed, but whatever.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 13, 2012, 03:07:38 PM
Oh yeah, my absolute most favorite salad is when it has dried cranberries, crumbled goat cheese, and pecans...with this one particular balsamic dressing, Olde Cape Cod. It is the perfect flavor combination. And if I want it to be a meal, putting a little bit of thinly sliced flank steak or something on there makes it perfect.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 13, 2012, 04:28:10 PM
We had a bag of walnuts here and I added some and squeezed lemon juice on it. It was pretty dang good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 13, 2012, 06:05:53 PM
in vegas and we stopped at baja fresh and i got a naked burrito, no cheese (basically a salad). not sure if DH will want buffet dinner  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 13, 2012, 07:18:36 PM
Oh yeah, my absolute most favorite salad is when it has dried cranberries, crumbled goat cheese, and pecans...with this one particular balsamic dressing, Olde Cape Cod. It is the perfect flavor combination. And if I want it to be a meal, putting a little bit of thinly sliced flank steak or something on there makes it perfect.

I make that same salad with pine nuts instead of pecans and I make my own dressing out of a honey balsamic and olive oil. We had it last night but Antag pretty much hates it. :(


My not posting in the CH didn't last very long.  :d I did significantly decrease my posting though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 13, 2012, 07:43:02 PM
I make that same salad with pine nuts instead of pecans and I make my own dressing out of a honey balsamic and olive oil. We had it last night but Antag pretty much hates it. :(


My not posting in the CH didn't last very long.  :d I did significantly decrease my posting though.
haha! I even started a thread today! Not that I was avoiding the CH, just that I very very very rarely ever start threads. It's already dropped to page 2.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 13, 2012, 09:32:49 PM
meh. i pigged out at the buffet. nothing horrible. My first plate was a lot of salad and green beans with a little bit of sushi, some mashed potatoes. My second plate was hummus and a small pita, corn, green beans, a little mashed potatoes and some cheezy broccoli. So nothing too terrible. I did have a small piece of carrot cake (like teeny) and a bit of froyo. Could have been MUCH worse. I feel like i will explode though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 13, 2012, 10:44:47 PM
I'm pretty sure you're going to get a little run in on Monday and work it off.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 14, 2012, 07:49:34 AM
I'm pretty sure you're going to get a little run in on Monday and work it off.

 :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 14, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
Alrighty, I'm packing and leaving today for yearbook camp...will be back on Thursday. So wish me luck on the food front. It starts tonight with a faculty dinner out at one of the historic restaurants in the area, one of those places where the s's are f's on the menu and things come covered in butter or sauce. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on July 14, 2012, 11:18:17 AM
A little late with my replies, but

MM - I love your yard.  It looks great.

Meri - Go get 'em!

Debba - Good job.  Sounds like you are doing great these days.  I hope you continue to feel better so you can stay on track.

Cgraz - Good luck staying on track while you are gone.

I'm doing OK.  I lost my initial 10 pounds and don't seem to have the diligence to lost the last 10 I would like to.  I'm not gaining back, but eating a little over my allotted calories that would allow me to lose, just enough to maintain.  Oh well, maybe it will kick back in eventually.  I'm pretty consistent being the same 2 pounds lighter each morning than in the evenings when I weigh.  Is that typical?   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 14, 2012, 07:06:49 PM
cozymum, I'm kind of in the same boat over the last few days.  I can see that I've let a few of my bad habits sneak back in (evening snacking, more than one portion) and I'd better cut it out quickly b/c without the running, I'm going to gain again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 14, 2012, 09:38:29 PM
Oh, FFS. So I got my period yesterday and this morning when I checked my weight, I was up THREE POUNDS from yesterday morning. WTF??? GAH. There's just no POSSIBLE way I ate that much food yesterday. No. Way.

And of course, today is my WW weigh-in day, so I'm left with a dilemma - report Friday's weight (the good number) or today's weight?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on July 14, 2012, 10:35:27 PM
Thanks!  I want to try this:

http://www.skinnytaste.com/2011/10/crock-pot-asian-pork-with-mushrooms.html (http://www.skinnytaste.com/2011/10/crock-pot-asian-pork-with-mushrooms.html)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f7XRRVIx3-g/Tp8W7jx6_WI/AAAAAAAADtw/vdW1mIcP97w/s1600/Crock-Pot-Asian-Pork-with-Mushrooms.png)

So I made this today and we both really liked it!  Thanks for the website, Courtney!  www.skinnytaste.com (http://www.skinnytaste.com)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 15, 2012, 12:12:30 AM
I love skinny taste!!

Boy did I slip again. DH and I went out tonight and therefore ended up not cooking. Of COURSE I ordered the burger trio. Because I have no self control when I see a burger with QUESO on it. Oh damn. They were goooood.

One thing we noticed: after cooking 95% of our own meals over the last 6 weeks, boy are restaurant portions HUGE compared to what we've been eating at home. Even though it was a local place, they piled on the fries. And I ate every last one.  :nono:

Whatever. I've been walking a ton this week, and I'm happy with the progress we've made regarding cleaner cooking, more veggies, no refined flour/sugar. As long as we keep cooking in and make fewer trips eating out, we should be just fine in the long run.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 15, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
That's a great attitude to have, tricia - good for you!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 15, 2012, 01:17:06 PM
Thanks! I'm done beating myself up over what I eat when I "slip." DH and I are in this together now. He fully supports our new habits and loves my cooking, so he gets excited to see what new creations I've come up with that DON'T include mashed potatoes, goopy cheesy sauces, or bread.  :preen:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 15, 2012, 10:25:54 PM
So we are at the beach.  Yay!  I do however need another vacation already.  Sheesh.  The drive was horrible... kids were OK but the 50lb lap dog on me for 4 hours was a little exhausting.

Rachel face planted in the water within 2 minutes so is scared but David loves the water.  Both like the sand.  DH was a *dear* and drank an entire box of wine.  Major argument.  He crashed leaving me with kids that did not nap.  He has apologized but he should be punched. 

So food has been, um, bad.  I'm desperate for a run but not sure how that is gonna happen.  I'm expecting the next few days to be better. 

Meri, good luck!   Thinking of you!
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Post by: diablita on July 15, 2012, 10:46:13 PM
Bolloxd, have an amazing time.  I'm sorry the start wasn't great but I hope the rest is.  Where exactly are you?  And for how long?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on July 16, 2012, 07:30:54 AM
Okay, summer vacation is over.  Austerity measures began again yesterday!   It's just so hot and humid at home now that I don't even want to eat.  I had my fill of all the snacks and splurges and all I really want right now is watermelon.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 16, 2012, 09:48:40 AM
Back down to my WLC start weight today. Not-great choices this weekend, coupled with my period, so really, not horrible. I'll take it. Vacation in a week - I. Cannot. Wait. Except for the whole "my family is insane" part of things.  :nono: DH and I talked about food strategy a little last night (while I was eating a burger, natch) and I think we have a decent plan. I'm more worried about Reid getting messed up and cranky and that making me and DH cranky. Oh well. I have a week to panic.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 16, 2012, 11:21:40 AM
Well now, that was just shitty. One of my coworkers has been in a snit for like three weeks. She brought in kolaches today. But only for herself and the two people she likes. WTF? I'm not a huge kolache fan, but... really?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 16, 2012, 01:00:37 PM
Weekend was ok. Did a 10 miler sat evening...ate dinner really late but oh well. Sunday we went out to breakfast and then I went toast concert in the afternoon. Had a hot dog, chips, a few fries and a beer but not too terrible considering.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 16, 2012, 01:14:43 PM
We're at Oak Island, NC.  At least the weather has been perfect.  I'm currently having a strawberry dacquiri.  Yum.  I've been digging in sand & playing in water as exercise... funny enough, my knee is killing me and I've not been able to run yet.  Oh well. 

Deb, the kids will not nap on vacation or when there is a lot going on...they were up for 16 hours straight yesterday!!  The crankiness starts around 6pm but they fight the sleep.  Definitely makes it more challenging.  For some reason they've developed runny noses since getting here. 

I think we're having some nice healthy-ish pasta for dinner.  So that's promising.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 16, 2012, 01:19:08 PM
Bolloxd, 16 hours? Holy Shit.  :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

DH and I have already decided we're likely to piss off my parents by insisting that we try as best as possible to keep Reid on his normal schedule. Yay. But getting him off-track means meltdowns at dinner, and it's not worth it. My mom will just have to get over it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 17, 2012, 09:57:08 AM
DH and signed our refi last night (3.75 % baby!) and then went out to dinner to celebrate. I had ribs, fries (and mayo, natch), green beans with corn and peppers and two glasses of wine and enjoyed every bite. Now it is back to austerity though!

So far today it's been a skim iced latte with hazelnut syrup (small amount, I make the latte myself) and I'm planning on strawberry sandwiches for lunch. Nobody here eats strawberry sandwiches, but I tell you y'all are missing out! :)

Bolloxd, I hope your vacation is more relaxing now than it started out!

MM, good work on the 10-miler!

Debba, your co-worker sucks. Not that I know what kolaches are exactly (some sort of pastry I think?) but that's just poor manners. On the other hand, kolaches are not austere, so you're better off! :)

Caito, welcome back to Austerity Land!  ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 17, 2012, 11:17:30 AM
Blargh, I can't seem to shake the period weight. :( That's really pissing me off. And DH stayed up late last night and then woke me up when he came to bed, then Reid woke up twice... I'm SO damn tired. Need to get my ass in gear. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 17, 2012, 05:27:30 PM
Feeling good today.   Got a very small run in this morning and had fun with the kids.  We finally got a good night's sleep and they are taking the usual nap today.  All is well.  DH is ready to go back home tomorrow night but I'm just getting into the swing of things. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 17, 2012, 05:42:27 PM
Blargh, I can't seem to shake the period weight. :( That's really pissing me off. And DH stayed up late last night and then woke me up when he came to bed, then Reid woke up twice... I'm SO damn tired. Need to get my ass in gear. :(

Same here. But mine hasn't come yet. I'm getting the PMS munchies HARD. All the bloat and weight gain. And it's not arrived yet. Grrr. Hurry up already. I've stopped getting my hopes up over every late P. I've now reached a point where I just want to get it over with, so I can move on and stop craving carbs and KEEP losing weight!!

All I want it pizza.

BAD.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 17, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
Oooooh, pizza. I have the "I'm at work late and I'm the only one here and I really, really want chocolate and my weight loss has stalled out, so why fucking bother trying, goddammit" munchies. Those are bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 17, 2012, 09:14:35 PM
My coworker ate my afternoon snack so I was "forced" to buy a cookie.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 17, 2012, 09:35:53 PM
That coworker needs a little punch in the throat.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 17, 2012, 10:15:07 PM
That coworker needs a little punch in the throat.

He claims it was because it wasn't labeled...it had only been in the fridge a couple hours...I hardly think it needed to be labeled.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 17, 2012, 10:23:21 PM
Maybe HE stole the laptop! "Hey.. it wasn't labeled!"
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 17, 2012, 10:54:50 PM
 :sidesplit:

Ended up having raisin bran for dinner. Could have been a lot worse.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 17, 2012, 11:31:41 PM
We had pizza. Then they cam and delivered a second pizza (and a free bottle of Coke!!) because they messed up the first one. Now we have a whole pizza in our fridge. And a bottle of coke. We don't really drink cokes anymore. I might take it to the shop and give it away to one of the employees. College kids love free shit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 18, 2012, 09:56:59 AM
That sounds like a good plan, tricia. Sorry they screwed up the pizza to begin with!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 18, 2012, 10:58:43 AM
I found a local place yesterday that does gluten free flat bread pizzas...  *aaaaaah*  it was tasty. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on July 18, 2012, 01:13:22 PM
Well, I skipped 3 runs. And I've been eating macaroni and cheese every day since Saturday.  But I'm down a pound this week so far.  (THe one I gained last week).  I have one more serving left.  I wonder if it will freeze.  I'm kind of over it right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 18, 2012, 03:28:20 PM
please ignore the following-

vague post alert.

i will not get my hopes up.
i will not get my hopes up.
i will not get my hopes up.

 :nono:

please ignore the preceding.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 18, 2012, 03:30:45 PM
please ignore the following-

vague post alert.

i will not get my hopes up.
i will not get my hopes up.
i will not get my hopes up.

 :nono:

please ignore the preceding.

 :hug:

I can't entirely ignore. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 18, 2012, 04:03:49 PM
Tricia, I will ignore with my fingers crossed.

Yesterday and today I had the same thing for lunch: charentais melon with prosciutto. It is a very temporary special at the bakery and it tastes wonderful, but I am starving just 2 hours after lunch!

Last night we had salad for dinner: romaine, heirloom tomato, avocado, a tiny bit of ham and green beans. It was very good. Oh, and two pieces of toast. I wanted butter but we had none that was in a spreadable state.

I will have a different lunch tomorrow, that's for sure. I feel I could a cow right about now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 18, 2012, 04:26:11 PM
I will ignore with my fingers crossed and vibes. And hugs.  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

VP that sounds like a delicious lunch, but yeah, I would need more.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 18, 2012, 04:52:01 PM
I will ignore with my fingers crossed and vibes. And hugs.  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

VP that sounds like a delicious lunch, but yeah, I would need more.

I have had it three times and the first time it came with some bread and butter. Makes all the difference.

I found the leftover goulash from Saturday in the work fridge. It was only a few bites, but it took the edge off!

I better have lost another half lb by tomorrow morning...  >:(   :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 18, 2012, 05:22:09 PM
Ahhhh, yes, bread and butter would make a delicious difference. :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 18, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
So my stolen snack was a cheese stick. Today he brought in 3 cheese sticks as replacement because he felt bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 18, 2012, 08:27:13 PM
So my stolen snack was a cheese stick. Today he brought in 3 cheese sticks as replacement because he felt bad.
well that is nice!

DH and signed our refi last night (3.75 % baby!) and then went out to dinner to celebrate. I had ribs, fries (and mayo, natch), green beans with corn and peppers and two glasses of wine and enjoyed every bite. Now it is back to austerity though!

we sign ours on Wednesday  8) we have been trying to refi for 3+ years and we are getting 3.75% down from our current 7%  :e)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on July 18, 2012, 09:16:45 PM
 :fingers: :fingers: :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 18, 2012, 10:54:24 PM
Thanks. So sorry for that. I needed to vent. I had written out a long post with a lot more info, but I got spooked because I don't usually open up here at all, so I deleted it.

My eating has been awesome today! Except for breakfast, which was pizza. Everything else was clean and in my plan. My weight has stabilized, so I'm expecting to lose a couple next week. This week, I'm focusing on clean, fresh, healthful foods. One meal at a time.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 18, 2012, 11:00:10 PM
I ran today and I am still sore from Saturday. WTF? My legs were screaming by the end of 5 miles.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 19, 2012, 07:02:32 AM
well that is nice!
we sign ours on Wednesday  8) we have been trying to refi for 3+ years and we are getting 3.75% down from our current 7%  :e)

I am SO happy for you.   :fingers: until it's done.  We went down to 3.75 earlier this year from the 4's and it was nice, your change will be SO nice.


So I am still not working out -- most of the bruises are getting better but my foot isn't 100% yet for walking fast; running can wait a few more days.  I'm maintaining my weight (through likely losing muscle) but not losing.  I think I'm going to try TRX today if it doesn't hurt too much to brace myself with the foot.

 :doglick: :cat: :purr: :bitchfight: <-----  Jessica asked me to post this for you  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 19, 2012, 09:10:02 AM
 :bitchfight: right back at Jessica!  :roll:

Meri, that's a big drop from 7%!  :fingers: next week.

We were out of oj, so I had dry cereal (bran flakes) with blue berries for breakfast. It wasn't too bad, but a little liquid would have been nice.

I have a tiny bit of pasta pesto with chicken leftover for dinner. It won't be enough for dinner, but enough that I won't feel tempted to go to DQ this evening when working late.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on July 19, 2012, 09:38:02 AM
:bitchfight: right back at Jessica!  :roll:

Meri, that's a big drop from 7%!  :fingers: next week.

We were out of oj, so I had dry cereal (bran flakes) with blue berries for breakfast. It wasn't too bad, but a little liquid would have been nice.

I have a tiny bit of pasta pesto with chicken leftover for dinner. It won't be enough for dinner, but enough that I won't feel tempted to go to DQ this evening when working late.

Wait? OJ in cereal? I have heard of people doing that but have never tried it. I usually mix my cereal with yogurt.

Anyway, been kind of just lurking, but wanted to share that I have been using my fitness pal app pretty consistently.  I really like it.  My daughter, niece and I are all friends and it's nice to be able to see their food diaries and to know that they have access to mine.  I find it motivating.

If anyone wants to become friends on there, send me a message with your user ID and I'll send you a request.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 19, 2012, 09:50:21 AM
I only eat dry cereal!

The #1 reason to run 135 miles? Refueling! And in vegas no less. Lol
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 19, 2012, 10:14:40 AM
LOL, meri - I was going to say, I sure as hell hope you're at one of those crazy buffets!

Things have been okay here. Weight finally starting to drop post-period. *sigh* Vacation starts on Sunday - we're planning on being as active as humanly possible and I'm planning on making the best choices possible without feeling deprived. Plan on getting back to morning runs when we return. If I come home with no change in my weight, I'll be happy. I won't beat myself up if I gain less than 5 pounds. We'll just have to see how it goes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on July 19, 2012, 10:39:36 AM
I only eat dry cereal!

The #1 reason to run 135 miles? Refueling! And in vegas no less. Lol

OMG.. report to us what you are eating? Tons of sushi I hope!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 19, 2012, 10:50:04 AM
I ate popcorn for dinner last night (movie theater popcorn, no less) and my fingers swelled up like little pink sausages!  :D  Yummy, and SALTY!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 19, 2012, 10:53:03 AM
Yeah, I had fake nachos at a baseball game on Saturday night, and a burger and fries on Sunday. The scale has had me paying for that sodium all week, but it was SO. GOOD. And honestly, those nachos are part of the reason I agree to go to baseball games.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on July 19, 2012, 11:31:33 AM
I will try to remember to reply to everyone.

Tricia -  :hug:

Debba - good job.  I'm sure you will be fine on vacation and it sounds like you have a good plan, expect a little gain, but hope for none.  That's what I did too!

Meri - Yay on the refi!  And the buffet.  You deserve it!!!

MM - Glad you coworker replaced your snack.  that was nice.

VP - I have a chicken pesto tortellini recipe in front of me right now that I'm  planning to try to make.  I have to get to the grocery store today for my weekly trip so it's in the plan.

And yum to  nachos!!  and popcorn.

AFM - Well, I had a terrible week.  My children both got Hand Foot and Mouth disease from their cousins starting last week through the weekend.  And I got the adult version.  It is supposed to be mild and is, i guess, but I had the fever/malaise Monday so I didn't eat much, but didn't work out either, the a sore throat most of Tuesday and yesterday and am now having just a few itchy bumps on my hands.  Very annoying.  And althought I feel better, I do not feel great yet.  Since I've had kids I've had strep, pink eye, and now this that I had never had before.  Little germ carriers!!   :d

My weight has remained about the same, so hopefully I'll get back at it and lose a few more.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 19, 2012, 11:42:17 AM
OMG, I can't imagine getting HFM. So far, Reid has dodged that one, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on July 19, 2012, 12:57:26 PM
Well, it's not fun especially since I keep whining, "but adults aren't supposed to get the symptoms".   :(

Mine are 6 and 4 and this is our first time and hopefully last and if you count me, I'm way older than 6 and it's my first time too.    :wah:

The kids weren't really too bad.  My ds had spots before I knew he had it.  My dd had a fever first, then spots.  Neither had mouth issues and both have acted pretty normal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 19, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
Honestly, I'd rather Reid wait until closer to that age to get it - at least by then he might understand a little better.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 19, 2012, 02:07:26 PM
Headache!!

I feel bleagh.

:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 19, 2012, 02:16:19 PM
what are fake nachos?

omg hand foot mouth? i feel so bad for you and them  :panic: :hug:

OMG.. report to us what you are eating? Tons of sushi I hope!
no vegetarian sushi :( yesterday i had a lot of pasta, mashed potatoes, salad with CROUTONS!!!, morrocan vegetables over rice, bread pudding, baba ganoush. We went to a bfast buffet this morning and it was just ok (it was free with our room at Mandalay Bay) and i had a lot of fruit and potatoes, that was pretty much it, LOL!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on July 19, 2012, 02:59:57 PM
Sushi, smushi eat some damn cake!  Wrapped in bread!  Then deep fried!  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 19, 2012, 03:07:48 PM
LOL, fake nachos is just what I call them - they're the chips smothered in melted processed cheese that you get at the movies or ball games. Normally I'd say they're gross as hell, but for some reason, in a sports venue, they. are. delicious.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 19, 2012, 03:26:10 PM
LOL, fake nachos is just what I call them - they're the chips smothered in melted processed cheese that you get at the movies or ball games. Normally I'd say they're gross as hell, but for some reason, in a sports venue, they. are. delicious.

It's really hard to go wrong with that cheese from the big can when you are dipping salty, salty chips in it.  I'm not afraid to say it.  Judge me!  :D  I also love velveeta and rotel dip.  Nomnomnomnom. 

I had a baked potato and (half of a) chili from Wendy's for lunch.  I smothered my potato in my home made ranch dressing.  This makes me a happy girl.

I'm probably eating too many potatoes now.  I'm not sure what to do about it, since a meal of meat only is disgusting, and I'm working on eating more non-starchy veggies.  Tonight we are having pork loin, potatoes, and a cucumber salad.  I feel like I don't get full without some carby stuff, like potatoes.  I'd eat rice, but frankly, I don't like it.  And I've discovered that beans are ok, but only in very small doses.  And I don't really like them, but they are one of those foods I feel like I *should* like/eat.

But I hafta say, since ditching gluten, I not only feel sooooooooooooooo much better (re: tummy) but I also crave protein more often.  That's not to say that I don't still crave chocolate or ice cream, because believe me, I do, but it's different than before when a carby snack was what I always reached for (granola bar, bread of some sort, etc).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 19, 2012, 04:11:28 PM
That's really interesting about the carbs and the protein cravings... Hmmm. What about something like quinoa? Or bulgur?

And yeah, that cheese with the chips and a big ol' soda at a ball game? That's pretty much perfection. Especially when you don't like hot dogs OR beer. And around here "velveeta and rotel dip" is called queso. And it.is.delicious.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 19, 2012, 04:36:45 PM
MoS, I know oj in cereal is weird. DH suggested it to me years and years ago because I don't like milk and cereal is such an easy and potentially healthy breakfast. And I have been doing it ever since. Usually with grape nuts, but sometimes bran flakes. Those two are pretty much the only cereals I eat.

Courtney and Debba, I have no idea what you re talking about with your 'deeeeelicious fake cheese'. That stuff is nasty! Nas.ty! Of course I eat all sorts of other fake/nasty stuff (dutch junk food is not to be described in polite company!), but I judge your fake cheese all the same! ;)

Coyzmom, oh no, that sounds terrible! I hope everybody is recovered by now!

Onawhim: :D! I'm with you. Meri, eat something unhealthy already for Pete's Sake, you're making us all feel in adequate. Oh who am I kidding, you just ran Badwater, we ARE all inadequate anyway! :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 19, 2012, 05:59:25 PM
OMG

Rico's cheese. I LOVE that stuff. So salty. Served with those round tortilla chips.

When I go to Sam's to get stuff for the shop, I always pass by those giant cans of Ricos and dream. I would never buy one unless I was feeding a giant party. But then I would probably opt for queso (velveeta/rotel.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 19, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
That's really interesting about the carbs and the protein cravings... Hmmm. What about something like quinoa? Or bulgur?

And yeah, that cheese with the chips and a big ol' soda at a ball game? That's pretty much perfection. Especially when you don't like hot dogs OR beer. And around here "velveeta and rotel dip" is called queso. And it.is.delicious.

I definitely need to try quinoa.  It's on my list!  I'm not sure about bulgur...  I don't know if it's GF.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 19, 2012, 09:01:32 PM
i pinned a quinoa cookie recipe yesterday ;) i love quinoa.

I had froyo for lunch and was so hungry walking back to my hotel that i got a slice of pizza :D enjoying it while i can, back to reality soon! LOL.

I am not sure i have ever had fake cheeze sauce stuff.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 19, 2012, 09:50:52 PM
OMG

Rico's cheese. I LOVE that stuff. So salty. Served with those round tortilla chips.

When I go to Sam's to get stuff for the shop, I always pass by those giant cans of Ricos and dream. I would never buy one unless I was feeding a giant party. But then I would probably opt for queso (velveeta/rotel.)

YES! The Rico's! I couldn't think of the name, but that's it. The only time I eat it is at a ball game. And for some reason, it's perfect there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 19, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
The best chip is the last chip covered in cheese and is all gooey and soft and bendy.

I feel like I've posted this before?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 19, 2012, 09:53:26 PM
Yes. Yes it is.  :drooling-5:

I need some water. Just thinking about it is making me bloat.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 19, 2012, 10:25:44 PM
Well I already have a headache and am bloated, so I feel like I've already eaten a big paper tray of 'em.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 20, 2012, 09:05:55 AM
Back from yearbook camp last night, and weighed in this morning...gained .8 lbs. Honestly, I consider that a win - the cafeteria food choices were very limited and by Wednesday I was so exhausted that I gave in at lunchtime and had chicken nuggets and fries, and a brownie for dessert. Between that, and the couple of glasses of wine or couple of beers in evenings, I thought it would be much worse. I was careful to have plenty of veggies and fruit, and didn't go crazy with the Starbucks, but didn't stay completely away from all the sweets and stuff. We also do a ton of walking to get around campus all week, and I drank plenty of water. So overall, I am happy that I didn't gain more and I consider that to be pretty much holding my own.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 20, 2012, 10:10:21 AM
Nice job cgraz!

I was very good yesterday evening. After working late, I was very tempted to meet DH and his friends at the local restaurant where they were doing a cocktail tasting and snacks. I love that place, but it does not fit in an austere plan and I already had some splurges last weekend and will have another this weekend.

I had had a little bit of pasta around 5pm, but not enough to really count as dinner. So I had an apple and that did it. Cocktails and snacks would have been a lot more fun though!

I am going to try cgraz's quinoa and apple breakfast thingy this weekend, having finally gotten some quinoa. Of course now I ate the apple already...  :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 20, 2012, 11:05:11 AM
I ran last night and I am still sore from sat. Wtf? For dinner I had a healthy dinner if tomato soup, popcorn, and jicama.;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 20, 2012, 12:16:58 PM
I'm getting more and more sore with each passing minute from my workout yesterday.  Holy moly!!  WE did two workouts from Zuzaka Light on Youtube.  Tomorrow I have paddle boarding!  WOOT!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 20, 2012, 12:27:35 PM
Antag suggested I come home early so we can run long tonight and I about bit his head off. :) on the bright side I think the scale is down this week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 20, 2012, 02:40:26 PM
cgraz that's awesome about your weight hanging close with essentially no gain! I know you were worried about the notsogood food choices available at camp.

I've been walking every day with the dogs, I tried running today with them and it did NOT feel good at all. :( I felt like I had just drunk a gallon of water and then tried to run.  :o Not good. The walking is nice though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 20, 2012, 09:14:18 PM
I've had that feeling before, Tricia.  blech.  I hope you don't have it again.


I'm feeling like i'm up for a run tomorrow.  Kind of excited to get out again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 20, 2012, 10:49:21 PM
Hoping that was just an off day!

For now, I will wait and try to run again tomorrow! My eating was really good today. Even though I caved and had a scone because I was intensely craving some sugar and carbs. I could REALLY go for some cheese fries or cheese and chips right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 20, 2012, 10:50:41 PM
Antag suggested I come home early so we can run long tonight and I about bit his head off. :) on the bright side I think the scale is down this week.

How was the run?  :D  Glad to see the scale down for you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 20, 2012, 11:49:00 PM
How was the run?  :D  Glad to see the scale down for you.

Didn't happen.  ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 21, 2012, 08:37:42 AM
less famished today (so far) but i have no food in the house. this is what i have to eat today at work-- yogurt (lemon flavor, yuck, only one in the fridge), popcorn, pasta with butter and salt, granola bar, LOL.

I may go to a party with MoS tonight. I will eat whatever I want if i go and enjoy myself :D I have not stepped on a scale, maybe monday or tuesday. I am exhausted though and may not make it out there tonight :( i got about 20 hours of sleep in the past 6 days.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 21, 2012, 08:38:48 AM
Well, at least we can hope Antag still has his head then... ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 21, 2012, 08:39:24 AM
Meri, I hope you get to catch up on sleep soon! 20 hours in six days would have me very very cranky, if I were even conscious that is.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 21, 2012, 08:49:50 AM
Meri, I hope you get to catch up on sleep soon! 20 hours in six days would have me very very cranky, if I were even conscious that is.
cranky would be an understatement and DH is cranky that i am cranky  :o somehow i made it to work this morning without crashing the car. Now i am drinking as much tea as i can :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on July 21, 2012, 10:21:05 AM
less famished today (so far) but i have no food in the house. this is what i have to eat today at work-- yogurt (lemon flavor, yuck, only one in the fridge), popcorn, pasta with butter and salt, granola bar, LOL.

I may go to a party with MoS tonight. I will eat whatever I want if i go and enjoy myself :D I have not stepped on a scale, maybe monday or tuesday. I am exhausted though and may not make it out there tonight :( i got about 20 hours of sleep in the past 6 days.
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less famished today (so far) but i have no food in the house. this is what i have to eat today at work-- yogurt (lemon flavor, yuck, only one in the fridge), popcorn, pasta with butter and salt, granola bar, LOL.

I may go to a party with MoS tonight. I will eat whatever I want if i go and enjoy myself :D I have not stepped on a scale, maybe monday or tuesday. I am exhausted though and may not make it out there tonight :( i got about 20 hours of sleep in the past 6 days.

Hope you make it. There is going to be a ton of food! 
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Post by: diablita on July 21, 2012, 02:07:53 PM
meri, I hope you have some fun and some rest tonight.

I laced up the sneakers again this morning.   yay!  DH took J on a seat on his mtb while my dad rode his mtb and I ran alongside.  We stayed on a forest service road so that I wouldn't risk twisting my foot again on the single track.  Felt a little sore but overall great.  SO happy to be back at it and I love being back in the forest.

I feel like my eating habits fell apart over the last few days but this is a weekend of debauchery.  :)  Jessica has a sleep-over at the JCC tonight ( :fingers: she does well) and we're going to a small theater (with a full bar and bar food), out with friends.  And then probably out for more drinks.

And tomorrow is girls' night out. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 21, 2012, 03:31:43 PM
We leave for vacation tomorrow! If I can get us packed, that is. I just got back from a mani/pedi and have no idea where DH and Reid are. I should probably take advantage of this and get my stuff organized, at least.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 21, 2012, 09:26:54 PM
debba- have a good trip :)

went to the party. had a big piece of cake and one of MoS's brownies. :D DD had two brownies and cried that there were no more left, LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 21, 2012, 10:08:28 PM
We leave for vacation tomorrow! If I can get us packed, that is. I just got back from a mani/pedi and have no idea where DH and Reid are. I should probably take advantage of this and get my stuff organized, at least.
Debba, have a great trip! Meri, yay for brownies!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 21, 2012, 10:09:17 PM
Today was weird. We found out that antags friend passed away. Hopefully the timing will be such that he can go to the funeral.

Drugs are bad! 30 year olds shouldn't die.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on July 22, 2012, 01:08:01 AM
debba- have a good trip :)

went to the party. had a big piece of cake and one of MoS's brownies. :D DD had two brownies and cried that there were no more left, LOL.

I did my part by dumping your chips all over the floor!

Those brownies were demolished!  I'm glad I brought two desserts and saved the broken pieces of brownies at home for later! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 22, 2012, 06:06:57 AM
Today was weird. We found out that antags friend passed away. Hopefully the timing will be such that he can go to the funeral.

Drugs are bad! 30 year olds shouldn't die.

Yikes! I'm sorry for your and antags loss.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 22, 2012, 08:03:32 AM
So sorry, MM
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Post by: Magic Microbe on July 22, 2012, 12:00:01 PM
I feel bad for Antag because it is going to be really hard for him to get to LA this week. It is our last week of work before we go on vacation for the wedding so he has to finish all his cases and turn them in and we have a half marathon next weekend and a houseguest coming to run it with us. This was his pretty close friend and we knew he drank too much but we had no idea he had been doing cocaine and suspect (though obviously we don't know) that it was probably a factor in someone so young having a heart attack. What a sad loss of a nice, highly intelligent guy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 22, 2012, 01:24:12 PM
oh no, MM, that is just too tragic :( :( :(

MoS- that weird guy's kids ate like a ton of brownies each too. DD had two and i had one. LOL.

My back is all jacked up and i can barely move. no walk for me today, maybe a swim.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on July 22, 2012, 05:58:40 PM
oh no, MM, that is just too tragic :( :( :(

MoS- that weird guy's kids ate like a ton of brownies each too. DD had two and i had one. LOL.

My back is all jacked up and i can barely move. no walk for me today, maybe a swim.

Nobody even knew who that guy was. One guy posted on the evite as a no, then reported "wife's plans changed, I'll be there with three kids" he didn't really even pay attention to them. Who lets there kids eat an entire plate of brownies? I'm going to check the evite and see if I can figure out who he is!
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Post by: triciaflower on July 22, 2012, 06:05:50 PM
Wow. How sad.  :(

So sorry you are dealing with this sudden loss, MM.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 22, 2012, 06:51:41 PM
Nobody even knew who that guy was. One guy posted on the evite as a no, then reported "wife's plans changed, I'll be there with three kids" he didn't really even pay attention to them. Who lets there kids eat an entire plate of brownies? I'm going to check the evite and see if I can figure out who he is!
Even Stacy A did not know who he was!  :e) He was REALLY weird and he and two of the three kids were barefoot. Someone did know him because they said "i knew you would be here barefoot" but that was about all i got from it. The kids were really weird. THe boy (they parked behind me) was insisting on carrying my bottle of faux wine into the house and he was afraid i would drop it as i was carrying DD as well. i was like, um, no, please leave me alone. Yeah they were eating a lot of desserts! i could not get a good read on if they were weird or a little eccentric or what. i was shocked when he got out of the car barefoot though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on July 22, 2012, 08:53:06 PM
Even Stacy A did not know who he was!  :e) He was REALLY weird and he and two of the three kids were barefoot. Someone did know him because they said "i knew you would be here barefoot" but that was about all i got from it. The kids were really weird. THe boy (they parked behind me) was insisting on carrying my bottle of faux wine into the house and he was afraid i would drop it as i was carrying DD as well. i was like, um, no, please leave me alone. Yeah they were eating a lot of desserts! i could not get a good read on if they were weird or a little eccentric or what. i was shocked when he got out of the car barefoot though.
I didn't realize they actually came barefoot. I thought they had taken their shoes off to put their feet in the pool or something. Bizarre.  Even if you don't wear shoes at home you would think you would wear them going to someone else's house!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 23, 2012, 08:12:14 AM
I didn't realize they actually came barefoot. I thought they had taken their shoes off to put their feet in the pool or something. Bizarre.  Even if you don't wear shoes at home you would think you would wear them going to someone else's house!
yeah, really odd folk.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 23, 2012, 02:42:40 PM
omg! I weighed myself and even though i had chinese food last night, i am no heavier than when i left for BW!!!!  :smokin:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 24, 2012, 06:59:46 AM
yay meri!  think of how the scale will look when you get all that sodium out of your system.
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Post by: VP of Tea on July 24, 2012, 09:34:39 AM
And all you had to do was run 135 miles! Easy Peasy!

 ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 24, 2012, 10:08:36 AM
And all you had to do was run 135 miles! Easy Peasy!

 ;)
yeah, to maintain my weight :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on July 24, 2012, 10:57:23 AM
Ugh.. I need to rededicate myself... I've been staying the same or going down 2-3 then back to the same for a few months now.  At age 51, I suppose that better than menopausal gaining... but it's so frustrating!

I do great with tracking my food on my fitness pal but nothing is coming off.  Nights are the worst too. I am definitely not eating poorly, but at my age I have to really create a defecit to lose.

I do feel good and strong and muscular, but I want to be leaner... how to get there, that's the question.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on July 24, 2012, 12:52:27 PM
I am hosed on this food thing right now.  Family reunion this past weekend (although I held steady).  Of course I am down from yesterday.  But I have dinner plans every night this week.   My favorite pizza place tonight.  A Mexican place Thursday (at least I don't like their food that much, but their margaritas are amazing!)  Someplace else Friday. 

I had a glass of chocolate milk after my run this morning.  PB&J, the last of the cheetos, and rice pudding coming up for lunch.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on July 24, 2012, 01:31:45 PM
So sorry to hear about your friend, MM. 

Meri, if I have to do badwater to maintain, I'm gonna get fat.

I spent a week with a stomach virus, eating nothing but bread and bananas.   Weighed in at the doc's, weigh exactly what I did pre-accident.   So with the help of a stomach bug, I haven't gained weight.  YAY!   Of course I spent all last week overeating to make up for it, so I may be up a pound or two.

So now it's back to brass tacks.  Now that I only have a slight limp, I have no excuse not to get back to my prior level of fitness.   I'm cutting down on sugar/starches, two slices of bread per day, the rest veg and protein.   I'm putting the zumba disc into the wii tonight and doing as much as I can.  No more excuses!    I still have 20 pounds to lose, and would like them off by Thanksgiving.  That's 17 weeks, so only a little more than a pound a week.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 24, 2012, 01:32:38 PM
MoS-- i think the weight training, etc you have been doing is a good way to get more lean.

I went to the mall today to pick up something and to get lunch. Got a salad, was almost tempted by the veggie burritos, but a salad was fine. With croutons ;) I go to the mall once every 5 years, LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 24, 2012, 01:33:12 PM
Mini- good to see your recovery is coming along.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on July 24, 2012, 01:58:39 PM
Eeek...I get married in 12 days. We are good with the planning but Antag leaving town this weekend throws a bit of a wrench in our plans. Plus I can tell he is stressed and upset and thus we are reacting by eating crap.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 24, 2012, 03:30:26 PM
Eeek...I get married in 12 days. We are good with the planning but Antag leaving town this weekend throws a bit of a wrench in our plans. Plus I can tell he is stressed and upset and thus we are reacting by eating crap.
:hug:
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Post by: nadra24 on July 24, 2012, 05:31:22 PM
Eeek...I get married in 12 days. We are good with the planning but Antag leaving town this weekend throws a bit of a wrench in our plans. Plus I can tell he is stressed and upset and thus we are reacting by eating crap.

My eating went to crap the two weeks before my wedding, and I didn't have anything extra to deal with besides wedding stuff.  I am sorry you guys are dealing with loss at this time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 24, 2012, 05:33:12 PM
Eeek...I get married in 12 days. We are good with the planning but Antag leaving town this weekend throws a bit of a wrench in our plans. Plus I can tell he is stressed and upset and thus we are reacting by eating crap.

Life happens, and in the end you'll enjoy the day no matter what. 12 days is not enough time to do serious damage, so I'd just try to control as much as possible under the circumstances.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on July 24, 2012, 05:57:10 PM
MoS-- i think the weight training, etc you have been doing is a good way to get more lean.

I went to the mall today to pick up something and to get lunch. Got a salad, was almost tempted by the veggie burritos, but a salad was fine. With croutons ;) I go to the mall once every 5 years, LOL.

I have only been to the mall once in the 3 years I have lived here. When my sister, who loves to shop,came to visit.  I get very bad stress thinking about going there...
Eeek...I get married in 12 days. We are good with the planning but Antag leaving town this weekend throws a bit of a wrench in our plans. Plus I can tell he is stressed and upset and thus we are reacting by eating crap.

OMG, I can't believe it's only 12 days away.. so exciting!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 24, 2012, 08:51:34 PM
That's King of Prussia that you're talking about, right?  it's huge!  I was in Philly for a conference when I was pregnant with my DD and the first night I stayed by the airport, hit KOP, then headed downtown.  I  :heartbeat: Philly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 24, 2012, 09:58:03 PM
I've been lurking but have really lost the mojo since getting back from the beach, followed immediately by time of month blahs.  I haven't ran in far too long and even though I know it will make me feel better I'd rather curl up and nap.  Eating sucks - plain & simple. 

I need someone/something to kick my ass back into gear.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 25, 2012, 12:25:35 AM
I haven't been around much either. Things are getting a little crazy for me, so not sure how often I can pop in over the next couple of weeks.

I've still been walking a lot. My diet is alright. Not as strict as it was a while back, but still cutting out breads/refined carbs and sugar on most days. I think those are the changes in my eating habits where I see a significant difference in my weight and how I feel overall. So I'm sticking to that.

MM I can't believe your wedding is so soon!! Don't worry about eating crap. 12 days is nothing. Just keep hydrated and please remember to eat on your wedding day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 25, 2012, 07:58:46 AM
That's King of Prussia that you're talking about, right?  it's huge!  I was in Philly for a conference when I was pregnant with my DD and the first night I stayed by the airport, hit KOP, then headed downtown.  I  :heartbeat: Philly.
yes! i work in KOP and never ever ever go to the mall. before DD was born, i used to go to Nordstrom Rack behind the mall often, but that was it :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on July 25, 2012, 09:29:49 AM
I made the most ridiculous breakfast this morning.

Smoothies never really fill me up unless I add a serving of rolled oats.   So today I made a smoothie with a cup of plain greek yogurt, frozen strawberries, fresh blueberries, a scoop of vanilla protein powder, splash of milk and blended it for a long time so the volume was enormous even though it was only about 300 calories.  Then I poured it into a big bowl and added a cup of plain Kashi GoLean and a handful of nuts and ate it like a gigantic bowl of cereal.   Just over 500 calories or so. 

Ohmygawd that was so satisfying! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 25, 2012, 09:31:23 AM
Ohmygawd that was so satisfying! 

 :D

But why is it ridiculous? If it works, it works!

Signed,
eats her cereal with oj instead of milk...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on July 25, 2012, 09:37:24 AM
It just seemed like a lot of steps for early in the morning.   :D    And the final bowl of cereal looked so enormous!   I think that was my favorite part.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on July 25, 2012, 11:35:25 AM
That sounds delicious, Caito. 

I did a short Zumba routine last night.  My plan is to gradually work up to doing whole-hour workouts again. 

I haven't been very hungry all week so it's been fairly easy to stay on track, until today when I can't stop thinking about food.  Sigh.  Gotta keep my eyes on the goal and stick with it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 25, 2012, 12:52:11 PM
Good job on the zumba, Mini :)  Getting back in the swing of things is so hard, for some reason! 

I am so freakin' sore.  This is the worst I've ever been.  On Monday, I worked out with one of the guys here, and we did a great workout.  Lots of stuff we normally do, and we did 8 sets of 8 reps on stuff like lunges, squats, skater lunges, curls, pushups, mikeys, etc.   But we did these hamgstring things, and OMG the back of my legs hurt to the touch.  Yesterday I thought I'd seriously injured my right hamstring.  Spinning this moring seemed to help a bit, but every time I get up I want to cry a little bit.  And on top of the hamstring stuff, we also did a bunch of calf raises, which means that then entire backside of my leg is sore. 

I guess it's good, but holy shit I'm ready to not be sore.  We lift again tomorrow.   :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 25, 2012, 01:28:58 PM
I am having odd queasiness issues. I was hungry this morning, then ate an egg sandwich but didn't finish it because I was starting to feel a bit icky.

Then hungry again at lunch, ate two rolls (with nothing because I discovered my jam had gone moldy) and now again with the queasiness.

AND! I had an unfortunate incident involving a cherry during lunch. Suffice it to say I have a big cherry stain on the thigh on the back of my pants. And I like these pants!  And it'll probably never come out. And I'm on my way out to a customer's house, heh.  :wah:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 25, 2012, 03:21:49 PM
Qdoba naked salad for lunch.  Mmmm.

I wanted about an entire bottle of wine, but that is probably bad form during the work day.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 25, 2012, 04:08:02 PM
Gah.  I wore my running skirt yesterday thinking it would make me run.  Nope.  Today I've had on full running gear- bra included and I still took a 2 hr nap after eating Oreo cookies.   :nono:  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 25, 2012, 10:10:38 PM
Alright... I did 4 miles on the treadmill.  It was a super sucky run.  It has not helped my mojo.

I'm gonna find a race to train for in hopes that it will help.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 25, 2012, 10:27:40 PM
Bolloxd, can you run in the early morning when it's cooler?  I haven't managed to do that yet, but maybe you can and it will help?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on July 26, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
Did a longer Zumba workout last night, probably pushed myself as far as I could go.  Some knee pain and ankle stiffness, but no real problems.   Not  full hour yet, but maybe next week. 

Still absurdly hungry.  Brought a larger-than-usual salad in the hopes of avoiding the snack machines and the ramen cups. 

Good news: the skirt I wore constantly last summer needs to be taken in about two inches.  Time for the tailor!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 26, 2012, 11:21:01 AM
Did a longer Zumba workout last night, probably pushed myself as far as I could go.  Some knee pain and ankle stiffness, but no real problems.   Not  full hour yet, but maybe next week. 

Still absurdly hungry.  Brought a larger-than-usual salad in the hopes of avoiding the snack machines and the ramen cups. 

Good news: the skirt I wore constantly last summer needs to be taken in about two inches.  Time for the tailor!

Woohoooo!!  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 26, 2012, 12:26:22 PM
Yay Mini!

Diablita, on days I manage to get up early & run I do enjoy it.  Recently I've been staying up late at night - 12 or 1 am.  That totally ruins my chances of an early morning run.  The late nights mean I need/want a mid-day nap which then means I don't get tired again til late.  On days I skip a nap, for some reason, I *still* stay up late.  I need to discipline myself.

I'm currently sitting down to figure out a meal plan since that meant we ate better.  Also our budget is tightening so we have to cut back on our quick trips through the drive-thru.

 :bitchfight:  :runner:  <---requested by David.
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Post by: rocketgirl on July 26, 2012, 12:40:37 PM
I could have sworn I was eating like crap this week, but I'm creeping down. 
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Post by: diablita on July 26, 2012, 12:46:44 PM
Hi David!  Jessica likes those icons, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 26, 2012, 11:38:14 PM
Still on vacation - terrified of what the scale will say Sunday morning. Gaaaah. I guess the good news is that all the clothes I brought still fit!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 27, 2012, 10:11:08 AM
Debba, enjoy!

While I at almost three slices of bad pizza yesterday, I didn't eat dinner. So I think calorically it might have evened out somewhat, even if it was a nutritional disaster.

I'm hoping for linguini with clams for dinner! Mmmmm, linguini...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on July 27, 2012, 11:09:50 AM
Debba, I hope you are enjoying Vail!  :) 

I have been snacking in the evenings, boredome snacking it seems, on stuff that is packing calories in like crazy.  Must.stop.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on July 27, 2012, 12:34:47 PM
I had two margaritas and chips with guacamole for dinner.  Then was hungry later and had some cheese and crackers.

Lunch out today at a coffee/sandwich place.  And dinner out tonight, but I don't know where yet.  And lunch and dinner out tomorrow.   :panic:

But I was down a little more yesterday morning, so...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 27, 2012, 01:02:06 PM
RG i want your weight loss powers!

Meeting MoS for lunch am i had to text her tht there was cake on the salad bar! I resisted but it was quite a thrill :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on July 27, 2012, 01:04:13 PM
RG i want your weight loss powers!

My scale measures to the 10th of a pound!  So even .1 down is down.   :>D:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 27, 2012, 03:49:40 PM
Debba, I hope you are enjoying Vail!  :) 

I have been snacking in the evenings, boredome snacking it seems, on stuff that is packing calories in like crazy.  Must.stop.

Love. It. Wish I didn't have to go home tomorrow! Let's just not talk about calories consumed, though. :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on July 28, 2012, 10:27:56 AM
I saw a new number on the scale this morning! Woot!

Now, to make it last until Monday. The weekends are usually when I let go of austerity a bit, with a couple of glasses of wine or some such.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 28, 2012, 11:54:16 AM
Way to go, VP!  I'm not feeling so hot so I'm not running today, but not eating much either. But I did snack on something indecent last night (choc covered macadamias. Ugh).

My DD has a birthday party at 3 at the home of friends who put out lots of snacks. If I'm up for going, will have to take willpower with me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 28, 2012, 05:07:06 PM
So, we're home. I hopped on the scale while I was unpacking, and honestly, not too shabby! I'll know more tomorrow morning for sure, but I was under my self-imposed limit this afternoon, so I *should* be well under that limit in the morning for my "real" weigh-in.  :nails:
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Post by: Courtney on July 28, 2012, 05:42:37 PM
Woohoo!!!
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Post by: merigayle on July 28, 2012, 06:07:01 PM
not too shabby for a post vaca weigh in!  :buttpat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on July 28, 2012, 07:47:11 PM
That's awesome everyone.

Still around the same weight. Diet is OK. Not great. Our schedule is very wonky these next couple of weeks, so it'll come down to me planning ahead. I started getting my "Clean Eating" magazine and have a TON of new meal ideas. Sooooo excited!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 29, 2012, 07:47:39 AM
Good morning.  I went to bed at 10 last night (early for me) so when my DD woke me up at 7, I'd had a lot of sleep.  I think I'm feeling better today -- my joints don't ache and I'm not freezing cold in my long sleeves.  (I was at a kids party outside yesterday in sweat pants and a jacket)  Really hoping that whatever that was has passed and I can get back to running/lifting this week.

Debba, how did it feel to sleep in your bed last night?  Did Reid adjust to being back home?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 29, 2012, 09:41:55 AM
OMG, sleeping in my own bed was AWESOME. The hotel bed was super-comfy, but I always have a hard time with hotel pillows - they're either way too hard or way too smushy. Reid's adjusting pretty well. He got an ear infection while we were there, so I think the medicine at bedtime helps him sleep some (I'm not complaining!), and I think that's going to make it easier to get him back to his normal routine. I hope.

Final vacation result was a 3-pound gain. Not great, but considering my family and their general adoration for all things deep-fried, I'll take it. That puts me up 4 from my lowest point. I can get back down to that point pretty quickly, I think.  :fingers:
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Post by: diablita on July 29, 2012, 03:29:04 PM
that's not bad at all for holiday weight gain.  you'll take it off in no time.

what kinds of things were there to do there?  we have a timeshare in Avon (near Beaver) and will probably start using it in summertime in a year or two.  DH loves the mtb stuff. 
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Post by: debbatx on July 29, 2012, 04:13:47 PM
It was awesome. Plenty of hiking, and Vail Mountain in Lions Head has hiking and mountain biking trails open all summer, too. You can also ride the gondola up the mountain to a place called Adventure Ridge and hike up there, or they have pony rides, a sand pit, a mini nature center, a rock-climbing wall, and those bungee trampolines. Reid loved the sand pit and liked watching the ponies, but didn't want to ride. J might have more fun up there than Reid and his cousin, since she's a little older. There's a restaurant up there, too, so we went up for the morning, had lunch, and then rode the "gongola" back down for nap time.

Everything is walkable, and there's a free shuttle bus that runs pretty much anywhere you'd want to go. We walked a lot, but we took the bus a fair amount, too, because Reid really, REALLY wanted to ride the "school bus." We rented bikes one afternoon, too, and a trailer for Reid to ride in. DH pulled him, he had a ball, and I'm recovering from the terror of riding a bike - I've never been a confident cyclist. Ever.  :panic:

I loved it. I'd go back tomorrow.
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Post by: merigayle on July 29, 2012, 04:17:34 PM
sounds like a great trip :)

i am up a couple pounds, so hankering down this week. I ran for the first time (mainly cause i did not have time last week!!) and my legs were lead, but i did 5 miles, a lot of walking, but it was good to just be alone. DD has been quite a handful lately.
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Post by: merigayle on July 29, 2012, 04:31:49 PM
i just bought a spiral vegetable slicer on amazon. sucker or best purchase ever? it makes veggies into pasta, like zucchini, etc. And i can make curly fries for the DD. anyone have one? i was going to just buy a vegetable peeler that julliened (sp?) vegetables, but for it was $17 and this was $31, so i figured it was worth a little splurge.
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Post by: triciaflower on July 29, 2012, 05:11:53 PM
That slicer thingie sounds fun!!
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Post by: diablita on July 29, 2012, 05:42:58 PM
link please?  I try not to buy gadgets that only do one thing b/c my kitchen isn't big.  But that sounds interesting.

I bought a Zoku popsicle maker recently (the 2 pop one) and it was the best $30-ish bucks I've spent for the summer.  I buy healthy juices (Bolthouse has a berry/veggie mix my DD loves!) and DD loves the process of making popsicles.  Now no more having to run the gauntlet in the frozen dessert aisle and saying "no" a million times.  And the best part is that my DH discovered he loves the popsicles AND making them.  It's the only thing he "cooks".  So they make them together as a reward for weekend napping.  :)
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Post by: merigayle on July 29, 2012, 06:31:00 PM
http://www.amazon.com/World-Cuisine-A4982799-Tri-Blade-Vegetable/dp/B0007Y9WHQ/ref=pd_ys_sf_s_1055398_b4_2_p (http://www.amazon.com/World-Cuisine-A4982799-Tri-Blade-Vegetable/dp/B0007Y9WHQ/ref=pd_ys_sf_s_1055398_b4_2_p)
the one i got was prime and $31

when we go to the natural food store or the regular market which has an organic aisle, i do let DD pick whatever she wants out, but we have the old fashioned pop molds for the freezer and put juices as well as choc almond milk in them.


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412ClwXQOvL._SX450_.jpg)
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Post by: triciaflower on July 29, 2012, 06:38:03 PM
That reminds me of the Rotato. It was an as-seen-on-tv gadget that I always wanted but never got. I bet this one's way better!
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Post by: merigayle on July 29, 2012, 07:10:09 PM
i will give full report :)
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Post by: caito on July 29, 2012, 07:20:30 PM
That reminds me of the Rotato. It was an as-seen-on-tv gadget that I always wanted but never got. I bet this one's way better!


OMG.  That was such a great infomercial.  When I was in college, we found and bought a Rotato at WalMart and we busted it out at a party we had.  It was a hilarious hit. 
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Post by: merigayle on July 29, 2012, 07:21:33 PM
so a rotato is like a potato peeler? does it do anything besides peel potatoes?
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Post by: caito on July 29, 2012, 07:32:07 PM
It will peel (poorly) whatever you stick on it.  :D

The potato (or apple or whatever) stands straight up and there's one measly little blade, like a record needle.    Your device looks far more useful.
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Post by: merigayle on July 29, 2012, 07:33:33 PM
i hope so! i cannot wait for Wednesday  :hah:
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Post by: caito on July 29, 2012, 08:05:54 PM
Oh, memories!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AFazIZgmA6A/TZlEykKgh_I/AAAAAAAAAVA/QAcypwex9Aw/s320/Rotato.jpg)
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Post by: diablita on July 29, 2012, 08:38:15 PM
cool!

definitely report back :)
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Post by: rocketgirl on July 29, 2012, 10:05:24 PM
I used the George Foreman grill for the first time tonight.  I like it.

I cooked chicken breasts that I had marinated in a bit of olive oil, sauvignon blanc, garlic, salt, pepper, and rosemary.  Delicious!  Served with wilted spinach cooked with butter, salt, pepper, and garlic.  And of course sauvignon blanc to drink.  And those crescent rolls from a can. Although I guess the crescent rolls with butter probably deviated from "healthy".

My friend who gave it to me came to dinner.  :)
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Post by: triciaflower on July 29, 2012, 11:20:28 PM
Oh, memories!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AFazIZgmA6A/TZlEykKgh_I/AAAAAAAAAVA/QAcypwex9Aw/s320/Rotato.jpg)

 :preen:

DH always teased me for watching that infomercial (and every other one) whenever it came on.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on July 30, 2012, 09:40:18 AM
I've been lurking but have really lost the mojo since getting back from the beach, followed immediately by time of month blahs.  I haven't ran in far too long and even though I know it will make me feel better I'd rather curl up and nap.  Eating sucks - plain & simple. 

I need someone/something to kick my ass back into gear.
I am on the same page as you, and Tricia. I am hit and miss with y eating, ad I haven't exercised consistently in weeks.  It is difficult to get back that mojo!

I did manage to go to step yesterday, and I was glad (always am) to move.  We also went to Moonstone beach Saturday with the dogs and SUP to try surfing the waves on it.  Needless to say...I need to practice. It looks so easy, and of course it s not. We had fun, though....and the dogs had a great time stretching their legs and running.

I meet with my trainer today after work for lifting. I will bring my food to work and try to eat only what I bring. Simple plan to follow.


eta:  I am intrigued by that veggie shredder.  I love thinly shredded/curled carrots and beets in my salads. 

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Post by: debbatx on July 30, 2012, 10:03:56 AM
Somehow, this morning, the scale was right back where it was when I left for vacation. :w00t: I'll take it.
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Post by: triciaflower on July 30, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
Nice!
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Post by: debbatx on July 30, 2012, 11:29:33 AM
Thanks! Now, to get back on the exercise track....
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Post by: Courtney on July 30, 2012, 12:23:56 PM
Meri, I can't wait to hear what you think of that gadget!  I have this apple peeler/corer thingy from pampered chef, which is ok, except for it's all metal, and it's rusted in places.  I used it to make curly fries, too.  It's hard to clean, tho, so I rarely use it. 

I just heard of the Yonana (I think)...  apparently you use it to make a fro-yo like substance out of frozen bananas.  FitbottomedGirls.com had it on there, and they are usually pretty good for recommendations.  It seems a lot smaller than my food processor, which you can apparently use for the same thing.  My FP is a giant pain in the ass, so I rarely use it.  In fact, the only thing I think I've used it for is pizza dough.  Weird.  I'd like something smaller/easier to clean that I can use to slice up veggies really thin, potatoes especially. 
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Post by: debbatx on July 30, 2012, 02:19:36 PM
I swear, I just read something about freezing banana slices and then pulsing them in the food processor to make something fro-yo-like.
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Post by: Courtney on July 30, 2012, 02:35:26 PM
I swear, I just read something about freezing banana slices and then pulsing them in the food processor to make something fro-yo-like.

Apparently "banana fro-yo" is a thing.  Like, everyone on the interwebs knows about it.  Except for me, which is weird since I'd kick a baby in the face* for ice cream most of the time. 

*not really, I swear I don't kick babies
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Post by: debbatx on July 30, 2012, 02:58:21 PM
You'd kick Reid sometimes, or you'd want to, and in those moments, I totally wouldn't blame you. He can be a giant shit at times. :D

Here: http://www.thekitchn.com/stepbystep-instructions-for-on-97170 (http://www.thekitchn.com/stepbystep-instructions-for-on-97170)
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Post by: merigayle on July 30, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
i have been eating frozen banana yogurt for about 20 years :D a vegan place in Philly served them ages ago. LOL. I have looked at Yonana and debated it, but it got really bad reviews and you need to let the frozen bananas thaw a little before using it. I use my magic bullet with a little soy or almond milk (preferably chocolate.......) to get it blended. I am too lazy for the food processor for that. LOL.
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Post by: Courtney on July 30, 2012, 04:01:44 PM
i have been eating frozen banana yogurt for about 20 years :D a vegan place in Philly served them ages ago. LOL. I have looked at Yonana and debated it, but it got really bad reviews and you need to let the frozen bananas thaw a little before using it. I use my magic bullet with a little soy or almond milk (preferably chocolate.......) to get it blended. I am too lazy for the food processor for that. LOL.

I wonder if I could use my regular blender/mason jar combo.  I have some overripe bananas at home, maybe I"ll toss them in the freezer and try it!
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Post by: merigayle on July 30, 2012, 04:14:45 PM
peel and cut them first!
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Post by: diablita on July 30, 2012, 08:59:51 PM
interesting.  I am trying to resist buying 5 new gadgets now.  :d
I do actually have a thing that peels and turns the apples and potatoes into spirals.  I bought it at an apple orchard last year.  DD loves the apples with honey (inspired by Rosh Hashanah).

I made brocolette for dinner.  Interesting cross between broccoli and kale.  I roasted a couple heads of garlic last night and cooked the brocolette with one of them -- so delicious.
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Post by: Run Amok on July 30, 2012, 11:35:31 PM
I gave myself a stern talking to today. We've been moving and dd and dh were out of town and blah blah blah. I kept saying "monday I get back to work". And then monday would come and I hadn't gone shopping and I didn't have anything for lunch or snacks... and well, you know. I did pretty decently in terms of sticking to a purcahsed salad and adding in a greek yogurt (of course, they don't cary plain at the deli downstairs) or two hardboiled eggs for a snack. But then I'd go out to dinner with a friend or worked on leftover pizza, or whatever. Oh, and we had a big bbq and people brought SO much beer, so I was treating myself with a beer (or 2 or 3) every night while unpacking and so on and so forth.

So. Today. Even though I was tired and just wanted to go home and make myself ramen (naughty!) and still have so much to do. And even though our annual horse show is this weekend and Fri- Sun will be a complete bust. And even though next friday I have a wedding to go to and we're having family over for dinner and so on and so forth. Even THOUGH all of that, I realized that I had really crossed a line today at lunch when I told myself I was really sucking at this diet thing and so I'd just get back on the diet next week and I might as well have a baked frriggin potato with sour cream and cheese on it for lunch. I realized I had crossed a line and that I needed to fix it NOW before it gets out of hand. Because I didn't lose 20lbs by making those kinds of excuses and by "I'll be better tomorrow". So, I stopped at the grocery store and picked up stuff to make a stir fry, and for lunch tomorrow, and several dinners, and so forth and then I came home and cooked it and ate it and lunch for tomorrow is already packed.  :fiery: So, today I get back on track. And, yes, there will be some meals that won't be perfect- but I'm determined to not undo everything.

So, that's my update.

Carry on.
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Post by: diablita on July 31, 2012, 07:02:47 AM
 :fsm: :wah: :nurse2: :fuz  <---  Jessica is posting in the CH again.  Good morning.  :d
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Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 09:27:15 AM
RA, good for you! Stopping the slide is one of the hardest things to do, I think.

Eating is okay - we made chicken tostadas last night and I think the tostadas and maybe the chicken (it was rotisserie from the store) had some extra sodium, because I'm up about half a pound this morning, but that's really not too bad and can be overcome with water.

Now if I could just get myself out of bed to workout. I was going to, and then I woke up at 4 for no reason, dozed back off, and then Reid woke up at 4:20 or so, and... yeah. It was all over. I almost slept through the 6 AM alarm. :nono:

There's always tomorrow!

...which might be part of the problem, since I can always manage to put something off until "tomorrow." Hmmmm.

And good morning, Jessica!

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Post by: diablita on July 31, 2012, 09:45:25 AM
First of all, glad to see you drawing your line in the sand, RA.  It's always a good time and don't be so hard on yourself.  I also think it's good for our bodies to have some fluctuation and good for will-power to not always be used to the maximum.

debba, I hear you.  Fingers crossed tonight is a better sleep night and you can get in your workout tomorrow am.  I have lunch plans with a friend (vs. usual run @ lunchtime) so DH is going to pick up J from school later so that I can run after work.  (at least, that's the plan)


So Jessica got to school this morning and immediately told her teacher "I saw a spaghetti monster on the computer this morning"  :roll:
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Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 10:00:50 AM
Thanks, diablita! Yeah, I can't do the lunchtime thing, sadly. AM is pretty much my only option.

That's hilarious about Jessica. Any time Reid sees the smilies, he's like, "WHAT IS DAT? MOMMY! WHAT IS DAT?" And then we have to go through every.single.smilie.

*sigh*

Off to start assembling things in the crockpot for tonight's dinner before I dash off to work.
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Post by: MiniDriver on July 31, 2012, 11:13:22 AM
Eating DFCs, wishing it was cookies instead of carrots.

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Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 11:48:54 AM
Thanks, diablita! Yeah, I can't do the lunchtime thing, sadly. AM is pretty much my only option.

That's hilarious about Jessica. Any time Reid sees the smilies, he's like, "WHAT IS DAT? MOMMY! WHAT IS DAT?" And then we have to go through every.single.smilie.

*sigh*

Off to start assembling things in the crockpot for tonight's dinner before I dash off to work.
yep.

not feeling motivated to run today. feeling very tired. DD has been a handful. I also remember it took  me like a month to recover from Badwater last year. And somehow everyone at DD's preschool knows I ran it. I do not talk about it much IRL, so it was really weird to have them asking me questions and congratulating me, etc. My weight it up a smidge, but ovulation due in a couple days and i have been seeing that trend.
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Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 12:00:26 PM
I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one who sees a gain around ovulation. I can't find any research that supports it, but... yeah.
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Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 12:07:16 PM
I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one who sees a gain around ovulation. I can't find any research that supports it, but... yeah.
i can't either, but in the 3 or 4 cycles i have had, i have seen a consistent, temporary, rise at ovulation.

and i am still sitting on my butt. thinking a trip to target or something is much more exciting than a prework run :D
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Post by: Run Amok on July 31, 2012, 12:09:24 PM
I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one who sees a gain around ovulation. I can't find any research that supports it, but... yeah.

I do for sure. I noticed it when I was tracking my weight every day. I would eitehr gain or stop losing. Annoying!
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Post by: Run Amok on July 31, 2012, 12:09:49 PM
i can't either, but in the 3 or 4 cycles i have had, i have seen a consistent, temporary, rise at ovulation.

and i am still sitting on my butt. thinking a trip to target or something is much more exciting than a prework run :D

Meri- did you find that removing the mirena had the desired effect?
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Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 12:18:31 PM
Meri- did you find that removing the mirena had the desired effect?
well, i was able to lose about 6lbs, which was not as much as i wanted to lose, but i was losing zero. and not to get too TMI, my sex drive came back, after three years of being totally absent. I complained multiple times to my MW and Dr about it and they just all told me i was stressed and tired. IF I ONLY KNEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 12:20:38 PM
Gah! So there's another reason for me to be irritated with medical professionals who don't know jack about the female reproductive system. Dammit!

I'm just glad it's not me.
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Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 12:22:52 PM
Gah! So there's another reason for me to be irritated with medical professionals who don't know jack about the female reproductive system. Dammit!

I'm just glad it's not me.
and when i said something about the weight and the Mirena they told me there was no connection, but go on line and google it and HOLY SHEET! the stuff you will read.
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Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
I know!!!! They know that hormonal BC basically shuts down your ovaries. They know that shutting down your ovaries means you produce less testosterone. They know that testosterone is key in sex drive. And yet, no, of COURSE there's no link between hormonal BC and a lack of sex drive. :mad2:
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Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 12:30:38 PM
I know!!!! They know that hormonal BC basically shuts down your ovaries. They know that shutting down your ovaries means you produce less testosterone. They know that testosterone is key in sex drive. And yet, no, of COURSE there's no link between hormonal BC and a lack of sex drive. :mad2:
Dude. I has ZERO, yes ZERO, sex drive for THREE YEARS.  >:( but now i know. I think it was a big issue in our relationship and if i only knew that the Mirena was the cause.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on July 31, 2012, 12:34:02 PM
I ran a half on Sunday which I was totally undertrained for and yesterday I was ravenous. I was like a bottomless pit.


And for an amusing story I cannot post elsewhere ...we bought antag black jeans to wear for the wedding. For a change he actually bought pants that fit and wernt all saggy and now he is bitching that they are tight. Jeans are supposed to fit you dude.
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Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
dude, imagine running 135 miles, i was ravenous for over a week! LOL. Congrats again on the race!

he'll look nice in those pants :) my one friend wore nice linen pants and a Hawaiian shirt at his wedding, she was decked out in a super fancy bridal gown, it worked for them!
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Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 12:39:29 PM
Dude. I has ZERO, yes ZERO, sex drive for THREE YEARS.  >:( but now i know. I think it was a big issue in our relationship and if i only knew that the Mirena was the cause.

Oh, I feel you. Mine's been at zero for maybe 5 years or so. I just never had ANY desire for sex. Once DH convinced me to try, things would be okay, but really, who wants to be talked into having sex, and who wants to have to convince their partner to just give it a shot because it's been a month and that's not fair? GAH.

He'll look great in the jeans, MM. :D And that's awesome about the race!
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Post by: Magic Microbe on July 31, 2012, 12:41:53 PM
I haven't had any sex drive in about 8 years. Unfortunately I have been on and off bc during that time and it made no difference. :(
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Post by: rocketgirl on July 31, 2012, 12:48:15 PM
I am magically down 1.4 from yesterday.  Of course that was buck naked, immediately after my run...
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Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 12:59:28 PM
MM, I've been off the hormones for almost a year - since the end of August last year - and the sex drive is just now starting to come back.  :nono:

I think it's really dependent on an individual's distinct body chemistry.
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Post by: rocketgirl on July 31, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
I think it's really dependent on an individual's distinct body chemistry.

This.  I completely lost my sex drive on Ortho Tricyclen.  But do reasonably well on the equivalent of Ortho Novum 1/35. 

And aint nothin' gonna bring it back if it's the relationship and not the hormones.
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Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 01:19:02 PM
it took a while (more than 2 months) for it to come back. Nothing else changed, and i had a big sex drive after DD was born and it stopped when i got the Mirena, but she was also about 2 months old and i was working, so i did agree it was fatigue and stress.

However, I am now like a 15 yo boy and after DH complaining forever about it, he is like, um, not tonight. LOL!!!  :sidesplit:
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Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 01:20:33 PM
This.  I completely lost my sex drive on Ortho Tricyclen.  But do reasonably well on the equivalent of Ortho Novum 1/35. 

And aint nothin' gonna bring it back if it's the relationship and not the hormones.

True, but a lot of times the hormones cause the low libido and then the relationship gets all tangled up because of it. Meri, that's hilarious!
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Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 01:23:18 PM
I think DH resented me a lot for not wanting to have sex with him. I was like Debba, gotta be talked into it or something. Then he felt unloved, low self esteem and it really caused a lot of issues. Not saying it was all the issues, but i think it was really one of the biggest in hindsight. We have really struggled with our relationship in the past three years and if i knew this is what would have made it all better, well, sheesh, just wish i had known.  :-\ I did know something was wrong because i always had a big sex drive, but everyone told me i was tired, which i am always tired, atleast the past three years.
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Post by: rocketgirl on July 31, 2012, 01:40:33 PM
True, but a lot of times the hormones cause the low libido and then the relationship gets all tangled up because of it.

That too.  But changing the hormones doesn't always just make it better either.
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Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 01:43:44 PM
Yep! Meri, that's it exactly. DH is very physically needy and it made me insane and he had a hard time understanding why I didn't want to get naked all the time. Poor DH.

And RG, no, changing the hormones doesn't always help.
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Post by: rocketgirl on July 31, 2012, 01:46:21 PM
Yep! Meri, that's it exactly. DH is very physically needy and it made me insane and he had a hard time understanding why I didn't want to get naked all the time. Poor DH.

And RG, no, changing the hormones doesn't always help.

I just want to hug both of you.   :hug:  That stuff just sucked so bad and had just a horrible effect. 

I'm pretty happy now, most of the time, but it was so not how I'd planned for things to go.
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Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 01:50:01 PM
Thanks, RG. Your honesty about what you went through was actually a huge wake-up call for me.
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Post by: triciaflower on July 31, 2012, 02:37:22 PM

And for an amusing story I cannot post elsewhere ...we bought antag black jeans to wear for the wedding. For a change he actually bought pants that fit and wernt all saggy and now he is bitching that they are tight. Jeans are supposed to fit you dude.

 :roll:

aaww. That's cute.

In other news, I got on the scale and I am down 10 lbs from when I first started my dietary changes. That about about 6 weeks ago. Needless to say I am so HAPPY!!! I know it's a very slow process. But I'm finding that even if I get off plan sometimes.. it's OK. I'm not beating myself up for eating the "wrong" things some of the time. As long as it isn't a habit where I eat crap every day, then I'll be fine.

I drank caffeine yesterday (iced tea) and I COULD NOT FALL ASPEEP!!! ugh. Not good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 02:47:27 PM
That's awesome, tricia!! I need to make some tweaks to my diet - mainly to lunch, I think - and up my exercise and get more consistent about my morning workouts.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
great job tricia!!!

i know it is not all hormones, but i think it played a HUGE part into why things have been so shitty for three years. DH is not a cuddler or a touchy feely guy, so most of our physical contact is in "bed" and we just had none.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 03:33:09 PM
DH is very physical, but it got to the point where I felt like I was constantly being grabbed or touched or whatever - either DH or Reid, one of them was constantly hanging off of me. And with DH, it always had the undertone of, "let's do more," so it got to the point where I couldn't even trust that a hug was just a hug.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on July 31, 2012, 03:44:32 PM
DH is very physical, but it got to the point where I felt like I was constantly being grabbed or touched or whatever - either DH or Reid, one of them was constantly hanging off of me. And with DH, it always had the undertone of, "let's do more," so it got to the point where I couldn't even trust that a hug was just a hug.  :nono:

 :hug:  (Here you go.  Oh, let me squeeze a boob and smack your butt while I'm at it...  Just kidding.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on July 31, 2012, 03:45:56 PM
I need a Coke so bad.  I need my afternoon caffeine!

I have $40, but none of it is $1s or coins, so I can't get one. 

I'm almost considering coffee, but we don't have real liquid dairy (half and half, or even milk) which means that it won't taste good to me if I have it.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on July 31, 2012, 03:50:46 PM
 :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

:)

Thanks, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 07:20:28 PM
i got the spiral slicer but pieces were missing and i have to return it to amazon but since it was thru a seller of theirs i cannot exchange it, so bought another one, hope to get it by the end of the week. we did make spiral fries before packing it back up :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 31, 2012, 08:16:01 PM
 :'( i think DD has another urinary tract infection. drs appt at 7:45am, argh.  :fiery: DH does not want her on antibiotics, again, but i disagree in this instance. ugh. looks like if we feed her baking soda in the future, it will help with the pH. Oh and her CHIP application has not been finalized so as of tomorrow she is uninsured :( :( :( wtf? i called the lady and left her a voicemail (CHIP lady) and email. She is a flippin fruit cake.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 31, 2012, 09:25:40 PM
 :hug:  poor think
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on July 31, 2012, 10:03:01 PM
Oh man meri, that sucks.  I hope your little feels better soon.
Diablita, hope you're back to 100% soon.
Debba, yay for doing so well on vacation!
RA, good for you!!!  That is great to notice the backsliding and putting an end to it.

As an aside, I freaking hate hormones.  I am so easily controlled by my hormones.  I felt tons better with the Mirena taken out but with anti-anxiety meds it killed my libido again.  I'd rather be happy & loving towards DH with less sex than angry/bitchy with him and more sex.  We've finally gotten a good balance...although he would prefer daily. 

I think I'm done with my post-vacation slump.  I had a nice 5 mile run yesterday that boosted my mood.  I also had an interview and got a job offer today!  Yay & boo!  So, I'll be a part-time pharmacy tech once I do some training & the background check/drug test comes back OK.  We definitely need the income but I am really going to miss my babies.



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on July 31, 2012, 10:21:32 PM
Meri, sorry to hear about the little one. I am all for toughing it out... but a uti can turn into a kidney infection without antibiotics and then they bring out the big guns- which is no fun at all. I went through a period of time in my early 20's where I got a uti and then I would "cure" it by drinking massive amounts of water. It would come back every 6 months or so. Well, finally I couldn't stand it anymore and turned out I had a kidney infection. They gave me the option of getting admitted or getting an antibiotic shot. I thought the shot sounded better and I'm not really afraid of needles but that shot hurt SO bad!!! Anyway- this is one time dh just doesn't get a vote. Sorry.  :P

Saw this today and thought some of you might be interested: http://www.cookinglight.com/food/recipe-finder/300-calorie-dinners-00412000076815/page30.html (http://www.cookinglight.com/food/recipe-finder/300-calorie-dinners-00412000076815/page30.html)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 31, 2012, 10:49:42 PM
Oh wow, Bolloxd!  That's a big change but I think you'll find it's a good one.  P/T means you still get to spend a lot of time with them, but time for them to become a little bit independent and you too.  Good luck with the change.  :hug:

RA, interesting link.  thank you
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 01, 2012, 08:05:32 AM
Bolloxd...every day?  :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 01, 2012, 09:04:40 AM
Bolloxd, OMG, every day would drive me insane. If he thinks he's not getting enough, I'll give you DH's cell number - have him call DH and ask how bad it CAN be. :D As for the job, that sounds like a great compromise - a good opportunity for you and P/T so you still get lots of time with the twins. It was really hard going back to work when Reid was 16 months, but we were in the same situation - we needed the money. My job pays crap, but it covers daycare and gives us a little wiggle room in the budget, which we need.

Of course, then DH went out and got a better job with a massive pay increase, so maybe I could have stayed home, but day care has been GREAT for Reid. He's really blossomed.

Meri, I'm not big on overdoing antibiotics, either, but UTIs and bladder infections? Yeah, that's when you NEED them.

Scale was down a bit again this morning - yay!!! And even though I knew how the gymnastics competition was going to end last night, I still stayed up and watched it.  :sleep: :luvcoffee:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 01, 2012, 09:07:10 AM
Lol.  Yeah DH would be thrilled with daily and I'm ok with every other week. Once a week is the norm for now but some extra is usually appreciated. That is way TMI.  He still asks daily though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 01, 2012, 10:56:59 AM
I have been asking DH daily and he is like, WOAH! the tables have turned! and then i mimic the stuff he used to say to me when i said no sex, LOL. it is quite amusing.

yep, antibiotics for 10 days, i do not want to mess around with a UTI. She is not old enough to force massive amounts of water or cranberry juice on either :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 01, 2012, 12:48:31 PM
Deb, yay for the dropping scale.  I'm horrible for staying up late too.  zzz
Meri,  hoping the antibiotics work quickly! 

Oh, so I just got called for another interview tomorrow doing other lab work that I would also enjoy.  It is also part time but not sure about the pay-google says it would be a little more.  It's a little further from home though but may be better experience for the resume.  Of course, they'd have to offer me the job before I have to make decisions but I'm thinking ahead.  It is also the place I took my drug test yesterday for the CVS job.  Maybe I could play them off each other for higher pay. 

Going to have a run soon, once the kids take a nap.

 :wah:  <---from David, he likes cars. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 01, 2012, 03:44:14 PM
LOL, Reid likes the whaaaambulance, too. :) Except he thinks it's a "firefighter truck."
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 01, 2012, 04:08:15 PM
So, we are going to a local burger place that is known in the GF community for having GF buns.  I'm going to eat my first real burger in over 2 months and I'm STOKED. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 01, 2012, 04:12:42 PM
So, we are going to a local burger place that is known in the GF community for having GF buns.  I'm going to eat my first real burger in over 2 months and I'm STOKED.
whoohooo!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 01, 2012, 04:25:11 PM
4.25 miles on the treadmill....kids are not napping today and both have a diaper rash developing.   :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 02, 2012, 09:36:33 AM
Woot! Down a little again! YAY!!!!

Sorry - this just makes me happy because it means I *can* get myself right back on track, AND it means I didn't do horribly while on vacation. Those are both huge victories for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on August 02, 2012, 10:35:57 AM
I have been asking DH daily and he is like, WOAH! the tables have turned! and then i mimic the stuff he used to say to me when i said no sex, LOL. it is quite amusing.

yep, antibiotics for 10 days, i do not want to mess around with a UTI. She is not old enough to force massive amounts of water or cranberry juice on either :D

omg! This is info I'll keep out of our rea life  :bow2: :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 02, 2012, 11:06:44 AM
Debba, you should be happy about that, no need to apologize!

I am down a bit too, but I am also on steroids for a week, so I'm not sure it will last. And I'm still itchy, dammit.  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 02, 2012, 11:42:05 AM
Sorry about the steroids! What happened? I missed a lot, I think.

And thank you! I'm pretty fired up about it, overall, even though the number itself is still rather (extra) large. :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on August 02, 2012, 12:03:47 PM
I'm down a pound since post-Tuesday's run.  Although I'm not sure that weighing after a run really tells me much.  Maybe it's just telling me that I'm really sweaty, which I already knew.

I ate chicken parmesan and rice last night with a side of spinach and a couple of canned biscuits.  I thought I was eating the right amount of food, but I was hungry not long after eating.  But not so hungry that I bothered to eat anything else or that I couldn't fall asleep at bedtime. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 02, 2012, 12:07:40 PM
omg! This is info I'll keep out of our rea life  :bow2: :bow2:
i aim to amuse :D

so i am going to get off my butt in a minute and try to loosen the legs up on the TM. Deciding on doing a 12 hour race in 2 weeks, so gotta see if i am going to be recovered by then.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 02, 2012, 12:10:57 PM
Sorry about the steroids! What happened? I missed a lot, I think.

And thank you! I'm pretty fired up about it, overall, even though the number itself is still rather (extra) large. :D

Chiggers. Little effers.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 02, 2012, 12:16:12 PM
Ohhhhhhh. Okay, I saw the chigger thread, but missed the part about the steroids. Yikes! Sorry!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 02, 2012, 01:15:12 PM
i do nt think we have chiggers here, never really heard of them.

my run was AWESOME!!!!!!!! I feel pretty good about my recovery. last year it took about a month  :e)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 02, 2012, 01:20:12 PM
i do nt think we have chiggers here, never really heard of them.

my run was AWESOME!!!!!!!! I feel pretty good about my recovery. last year it took about a month  :e)

If you've never heard of them, you definitely don't have them where you live :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 02, 2012, 02:04:55 PM
If you've never heard of them, you definitely don't have them where you live :D
that is what i assume. But we live in Lyme Disease central, so that is the pay off.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 02, 2012, 03:12:55 PM
that is what i assume. But we live in Lyme Disease central, so that is the pay off.

Chiggers are the devil's spawn, I'm sure of it.  Those little fuckers are awful.  I won't even walk in the grass when I go home to KS, let alone sit in it.

I'm STARVING.  I need to take a quick shower (killer workout, y'all!) and go find some lunch. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 02, 2012, 04:57:29 PM
On a more on-topic note, I am hungry! And I have nothing for dinner (at work until 8). I will have to be strong and avoid the temptation of DQ...

Well, I didn't. On the bright side, I only had a hot dog and fries, and I ate than less of the fries.

Now eating nectarine for dessert. I should have started with that and the whole DQ episode could have been avoided. Ah well...

ETA: well crap, I meant to quote and instead apparently I edited. Oh well some more...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 03, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
the DQ chatter is really hard to resist. If I run my race in 2 weeks, i will get DQ :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on August 03, 2012, 08:46:15 AM
Ugh.. three days of baddish eating.... Not horrible.. but not good... Need to get back on track with my fitness pal logging.. started with out to dinner with my daughter, where my plan was to get the dinner salad with chicken or salmon... last minute switch to steak fajiata wrap, which came with fries.. and we also got fried calamari..

Then a spontaneous lunch with a friend yesterday... Indian buffet!  I tried tobe careful.. but still.. Indian food  :yikes:

Last night I was famished at around midnight so I ate crackers and peanut butter.. just to prove that you can binge on food that isn't even good !  It's not only chips and cookies  that kind of stuff I can't keep in the house.. I think I need to get rid of crackers as well..

OK.. logging today and back on track.. I have running goals I want to make!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 03, 2012, 09:53:51 AM
mmmmmmm Indian buffet. In Gateway? I love Indian, especially buffet. YUMMMMMMMMY.

DH and I are having a date tomorrow  :fingers: and going out for Thai. Yum. If nothing gets in the way of our plans, this will be our 2nd date in 3+ years  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on August 03, 2012, 10:51:15 AM
mmmmmmm Indian buffet. In Gateway? I love Indian, especially buffet. YUMMMMMMMMY.

DH and I are having a date tomorrow  :fingers: and going out for Thai. Yum. If nothing gets in the way of our plans, this will be our 2nd date in 3+ years  :eyeroll:

No, in Malvern at Royal India.. I have been to that place in Gateway though on Mother's Day a few years ago.. It was very good!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on August 03, 2012, 12:09:04 PM
Pizza last night.  Was supposed to be a really great place.  Maybe we should have ordered one of their specialties, but the pepperoni and sausage was kind of meh. 

And I was up .8 from yesterday.  But I ran yesterday.  So that's probably it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 03, 2012, 12:37:55 PM
I don't even want to say how the scale looked this morning; I don't want to jinx it for tomorrow's weigh-in.  :fingers: :fingers: :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 03, 2012, 02:40:07 PM
How much of a weight swing do y'all see from day to day? Overall I'm on the way down. But it sure is disconcerting to see it go up 3 and 4 pounds, and then see it go down that same 3 or 4 pounds the next day!

What is wrong with me!?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 03, 2012, 03:30:12 PM
I weigh before I go to bed most nights. Most mornings, I'm ~3lbs down from the bedtime weight. It's a pretty good gauge for me, from day to day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on August 03, 2012, 04:03:12 PM
How much of a weight swing do y'all see from day to day? Overall I'm on the way down. But it sure is disconcerting to see it go up 3 and 4 pounds, and then see it go down that same 3 or 4 pounds the next day!

What is wrong with me!?

This is me as well. I try not to worry about it.. You can not gain or lose that much in one day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 03, 2012, 05:08:56 PM
1-4 lbs and pms? Up to 8!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 03, 2012, 06:15:28 PM
1-4 lbs and pms? Up to 8!

OK that was me this last cycle from hell. I was 2.5 weeks late and retaining water like a mofo. At one point I was up 8 lbs too. It was very frustrating.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 03, 2012, 07:44:48 PM
OK that was me this last cycle from hell. I was 2.5 weeks late and retaining water like a mofo. At one point I was up 8 lbs too. It was very frustrating.
yep.

 :fiery: stupid body with your stupid metabolism and water retention.  :bat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 03, 2012, 08:59:07 PM
That would have made me insane.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 04, 2012, 08:19:19 AM
I don't fluctuate that much, but my weight is always higher at night than the next morning. I always report to WLC with my morning weight, natch! :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 04, 2012, 08:30:45 AM
you are dehydrated in the morning. and i poop before i weigh in :D

i am not sure if i updated about my badwater concerns. i weighed in as soon as we arrived at the start of the race, before the camera crew got there! i weighed in about 5 lbs heavier than i was, last year it was about 8-9lbs and others must have said something because the dr made a comment about getting a better scale for this year. I just did it and got it over with and i think knowing what it was last year, prepared me. It was no big deal. And there were no skinny girls around either this time ;) as far as aunt flow, she came the morning after the race, in full force and lasted a whopping 8 days. I had to buy tampons at the hotel in vegas and spent $7 on a teeny box. It was 2 days early and all my girlie stuff was valet parked.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 04, 2012, 08:49:14 AM
Meri, that sucks!

Scale was down this morning to a brand-new low! About 2lbs to my next goal. :w00t:

Of course, that means WW took away a point, so I'm going to have to make some adjustments.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 04, 2012, 02:41:31 PM
Meri, that sucks!

Scale was down this morning to a brand-new low! About 2lbs to my next goal. :w00t:

Of course, that means WW took away a point, so I'm going to have to make some adjustments.

Another visit to a fun store in the near future? :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 04, 2012, 03:00:04 PM
OK that was me this last cycle from hell. I was 2.5 weeks late and retaining water like a mofo. At one point I was up 8 lbs too. It was very frustrating.

 :hug:  That is horrible to deal with a cycle like that both physically & mentally.


I've been doing pretty good with exercise lately.  At least, getting back into the running again.  7.25 miles yesterday and 4.25 previously & 5 prior to that.  Glad to have gotten past the 3 mile mark again.  I'm also ovulating so that seems to be helping my mood (and DH's mood) at the moment. :)

Tomorrow is my mom's birthday and I'm the designated chocolate cake maker.  I can't wait to eat the shit out of it.

I also had another interview on Thursday which went *really* well and just waiting to hear back from their HR department.  I would prefer it to the CVS job but I need a good offer first.  Similar hours though.  I decided I MUST buy a new interview skirt because - thankfully after I got home - as I was walking from the car to the house the damn thing dropped to my knees!!  That could have been embarrassing! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 04, 2012, 03:53:35 PM
Bolloxd! too funny, definitely need to go shopping :D and yummmmm.

Dinner is not for 2.5 more hours and i am starving and DH and DD are still napping. what to do?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 04, 2012, 05:03:42 PM
have a fruit?  LOL.  that's what I would tell my DD :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 04, 2012, 05:26:25 PM
i did and was starving and had a piece of toast  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 04, 2012, 08:12:34 PM
:hug:  That is horrible to deal with a cycle like that both physically & mentally. 

You understand. Yes it was very unpleasant even though we have moved on to our next phase and am pretty much over the whole "getting my hopes up every time I'm late" roller coaster of emotions. At least everything was normal otherwise. I was beginning to worry that something was very wrong because I had a negative hpt when I was 1.5 weeks late, and no AF for a week after that. Gah! Hormones.

I wonder if this means I'm starting menopause?  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 04, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
 :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 04, 2012, 08:57:41 PM
as I tell ALL my patients, you are NOT starting menopause!!!!!

 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:


DH and I had a great date night  :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 04, 2012, 09:28:06 PM
It was actually a very stressful cycle for me so I do believe I didn't even O. Or it was super duper late.

Onward!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2012, 07:34:34 AM
It was actually a very stressful cycle for me so I do believe I didn't even O. Or it was super duper late.

Onward!
:hug:  sounds like it was an anovulatory cycle with the length :( i find that a lot of my patients have 1-2 of them a year, it is not that abnormal, but most people probably do not pay attention to their cycles as much as those TTC.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on August 05, 2012, 08:03:22 AM
as I tell ALL my patients, you are NOT starting menopause!!!!!

 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:


DH and I had a great date night  :heartbeat:

Where did you end up going and what did you eat?????

Also, barefoot guy was at Betzwood yesterday.. and he's still odd.. and of course he was wearing vibrams.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2012, 08:20:30 AM
i have very strong opinions about barefoot running :D

we went to Jazmine Thai (Barry's rec) and it was AWESOME. It was really quiet in W Chester because they had Swinging Thursdays and First Fridays this week already, which was nice. and followed up with my first trip to Kiwi :) DD asked this morning to go back, so more date nights! she does them 2xs a month. There are some cute pics on FB of their yoga.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 05, 2012, 10:10:16 AM
Another visit to a fun store in the near future? :D

Maybe? We'll see. I bought a bunch of stuff for the trip, so maybe just a few hours alone at Barnes and Noble or something. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on August 05, 2012, 10:19:41 AM
Good luck with your next phase, tricia - onward is good. (I need to figure out some of that, myself, what with AF making her regular appearance this morning and bumming me out as usual.)

Just got back from two weeks at the beach in CT with family, so am catching up on things here so I hope all of you guys are doing well.

Even with "cheats" that dipped me well into my store of those extra weekly WW points, in total I was down 1.8 from my last pre-vacation weight when I got home yesterday. I was careful but still had a couple of times where I visited the ice cream truck at the beach, had a fried clam roll, ate an onion ring or six, had a few slices of Mystic Pizza followed by an ice cream cone, had birthday cake, and washed it all down with a margarita here or there.

So I am pleased with no gain, and the loss makes me happy. I focused my efforts on making good choices and not depriving myself of those splurges, but not going overboard...and exercising a lot. We walked a lot in general - from the cottage to the beach and back, to other friends' cottages, etc. And I went for a run/walk about half the days I was there, plus a long bike ride one day with mr. cgraz while he was there too. So the activity points really helped.

Now the trick will be to get out of the splurge mindset of vacation and back to daily good eating. The flip side of that would be to also keep up with the increased activity level from vacation and try to do more of that at home too.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on August 05, 2012, 10:49:40 AM
i have very strong opinions about barefoot running :D

we went to Jazmine Thai (Barry's rec) and it was AWESOME. It was really quiet in W Chester because they had Swinging Thursdays and First Fridays this week already, which was nice. and followed up with my first trip to Kiwi :) DD asked this morning to go back, so more date nights! she does them 2xs a month. There are some cute pics on FB of their yoga.

I didn't realize that Zoe was at the yoga place until I saw your pictures.  What a great idea though!  You guys definitely should take advantage and have more date nights.. so important!
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Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2012, 12:47:15 PM
Yeah that was why i was looking at places in w chester. I may need froyo today, i think i am an addict!
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Post by: Bolloxd on August 05, 2012, 01:31:29 PM
tricia those annovulatory cycles are horrid too.  Stress always played a huge role for me...a never ending cycle.  And, I *still* get my hopes up every single month even though I know it is impossible without IVF.   :sigh:  Totally ridiculous.


So, I'm currently in my running gear waiting on for nap time and I have a strong feeling I may be skipping the run today.  I feel like I'm lacking serious energy today anyway.

My parents are coming over later for Mom's birthday and I'm cooking some steaks.  Yum. 

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Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2012, 02:48:39 PM
tricia those annovulatory cycles are horrid too.  Stress always played a huge role for me...a never ending cycle.  And, I *still* get my hopes up every single month even though I know it is impossible without IVF.   :sigh:  Totally ridiculous.


So, I'm currently in my running gear waiting on for nap time and I have a strong feeling I may be skipping the run today.  I feel like I'm lacking serious energy today anyway.

My parents are coming over later for Mom's birthday and I'm cooking some steaks.  Yum.
this was me and i dozed off while trying to get her down for a nap and barely slogged my run, which i cut short :(
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Post by: Bolloxd on August 05, 2012, 02:57:58 PM
They did eventually nap and I forced myself to run.  3.1 miles and I'm glad I did it...my knee isn't happy though.
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Post by: rocketgirl on August 05, 2012, 03:31:45 PM
That is the one advantage of having a dog and living in an apartment.  I HAVE to walk her twice a day, and I generally wear running clothes to do it.  I do occasionally bail on a run, but it's generally not too hard to do because I am already dressed and a little sticky from walking her.  It will probably be harder when it's cold.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on August 05, 2012, 05:16:23 PM
Hey y'all. Wedding was great! Had a great time.

Antag wasn't supposed to tell me but my parents told him yesterday that a family friend (of 35 years) was killed on Thursday in a car wreck. I looked it up and I shouldn't have. A kid driving a pickup truck crossed over the center line on a rural highway near my parents house and hit the their motorhomr that was towing a boat head on. She was trapped inside when the motorhome caught fire. What a horrible way to die. This couple was one of my parents best friends and my parents even saw the wreckage because they were coming back to their house that day from picking my grandma up in oregon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 05, 2012, 05:48:04 PM
Oh, MM, I'm so sorry. :(

I'm glad the wedding went well, though. You're MARRIED!!!!

Also, I hate the scale at the moment. We went to a birthday party yesterday, outside, in the middle of the afternoon ( :'( <-- sweat, not tears) and the hosts didn't really have enough water for everyone, so we were dying.

And today, the scale is up 6 pounds. WTF.  :incazzato: :incazzato: :incazzato: :incazzato: :incazzato: :incazzato: :incazzato:
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Post by: rocketgirl on August 05, 2012, 05:51:21 PM
How can you not have enough water for everyone?  If you run out of bottled water, tap water in pitchers with plastic cups.  NOT rocket science!   :fiery:

I'm sorry about your bad news MM.   :hug:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on August 05, 2012, 05:52:08 PM
We have like 100 beers left over. This may make austerity difficult.
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Post by: diablita on August 05, 2012, 05:56:05 PM
so sorry to hear about this, MM.  I'm glad your wedding was nice, though.
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Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2012, 06:22:38 PM
oh MM! that is just terrible, and Anty just lost his friend too. Just too tragic in this time when you should be celebrating. Hang in there. I am glad the wedding went well, the pics i saw were great.

and i made this for dinner, my variation, pretty good.
http://ohsheglows.com/2011/12/13/naughty-nice-vegan-enchilada-casserole/ (http://ohsheglows.com/2011/12/13/naughty-nice-vegan-enchilada-casserole/)
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Post by: diablita on August 05, 2012, 07:13:22 PM
that sounds delicious, meri

I made vegetable yakisoba and threw in shrimp for DH and DD.  It was so good.
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Post by: cgraz on August 05, 2012, 07:16:30 PM
MM, I'm so sorry to hear about that - how awful.
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Post by: Courtney on August 05, 2012, 07:25:32 PM
After seeing the pic with bootsie from this weekend, I either need to burn that shirt or stop eating.  Gah!!! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2012, 07:42:14 PM
After seeing the pic with bootsie from this weekend, I either need to burn that shirt or stop eating.  Gah!!!
dude, she is like the incredibly shrinking woman with a cantelope under her shirt, don't feel bad!  :hug:
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Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2012, 07:50:40 PM
oh and Courtney, DeTurtle and i are totally BFFs too, gotta love the CH bffs :)
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Post by: Magic Microbe on August 05, 2012, 08:15:28 PM
After seeing the pic with bootsie from this weekend, I either need to burn that shirt or stop eating.  Gah!!! 

I feel similarly about wedding pics that were posted.
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Post by: debbatx on August 05, 2012, 08:21:20 PM
How can you not have enough water for everyone?  If you run out of bottled water, tap water in pitchers with plastic cups.  NOT rocket science!   :fiery:

I'm sorry about your bad news MM.   :hug:

LOL! It was outside at a kiddie amusement park, so no taps, unless I wanted to drink out of the bathroom sink.  :whoa: And there was a snack bar type thing, but we didn't bring cash with us because I'm a dumbass and when I host a party, I make sure to have more than enough food and drink for everyone. I should have known better, though. I've known these people for my entire life, and they're all dingbats. Dumb move on my part.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2012, 07:57:16 AM
they should have bought water there at cost, cause people need water! wtf?

i am up a couple lbs today. whatever. going to the kiddie amusement park with DD today, will walk my tush off for sure and we are sneaking our lunch in, so all good food choices.
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Post by: debbatx on August 06, 2012, 09:16:40 AM
Heh. Like I said, they're dingbats. It honestly wouldn't occur to them to buy water, even though they were bitching about the heat as much as the rest of us.

Anyway, the scale is coming back down, thank goodness!
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Post by: VP of Tea on August 06, 2012, 11:12:51 AM
MM, I am so sorry about your friend. That is one of my nightmare scenarios, being trapped like that.

Last night I had two cocktails. And then I felt sick. At first I thought it was too much too drink (for me, I'm a lightweight, though two drinks is not unusual) but now I'm not so sure. I still feel sick, more than 12 hours later.

On the bright side, I barely ate dinner because of that and my weight for the weigh in was low... Still, I'd rather not feel nauseous. It's my day off, so I'm spending it on the couch.
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Post by: Run Amok on August 06, 2012, 11:59:45 AM
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Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2012, 03:53:07 PM
I did not get ice cream at the amusement park. i should get a medal. I got DD some and they said, anything for you? and i was like, yeah, but no :( LOL.
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Post by: diablita on August 06, 2012, 03:59:22 PM
yay Meri!

RA, everything ok?
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Post by: Run Amok on August 06, 2012, 04:06:00 PM
Yeah, I just overshared and then thought better of it. Things are going well in the w/l department. :)
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Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2012, 07:02:50 PM
RA- it's ok. I overshare sometimes too :D I write a lot of posts and never press "post" :D

random thoughts from our trip today-- i drove by a Vet's office that had a big sign out front, "eat chick fil a today!" wow. And at the water park at the amusement park we went to there was a really pregnant lifeguard. I guess I never thought about it, but I never saw a pregnant lifeguard. LOL. She was rocking it and look fantabulous. The water area was really cool, it was not a pool or anything, but all these areas with water spraying out of crazy things, slides big and small and whatnot. It was surprisingly a lot of fun. I had never taken DD to that part before, because when she was only 2yo last year, she never lasted long enough to go there AFTER the rides. This park is great, at her age, 3, she can go on every ride except three at the park!
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Post by: diablita on August 06, 2012, 07:27:51 PM
meri, how fun!  I think I'm going to take DD to a waterpark in Greenville next week.  My DH will be out of town from Thurs - Tues at a downhill bike park and DD is off from school.  I was debating the safety of taking her on my own but I think we'll be ok.

RA, glad it's doing well.  We all share a good bit in this thread so no worries either way.
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Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2012, 07:41:19 PM
Oh i used the spiral and made zucchinibnoodles and sauteed it with a little salt and garlic and finished w fresh basil. Yum!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 06, 2012, 09:11:40 PM
Today I ate 6crackers and a slice of dry bread. And yet I weighed more in the evening than I did in the morning. Bizarre.

Here's to hoping my stomach will settle over night!
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Post by: diablita on August 06, 2012, 09:19:07 PM
 :fingers: for VP of Tea & Toast
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Post by: Magic Microbe on August 06, 2012, 09:56:02 PM
I have been eating like a piggy. Oink!
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Post by: merigayle on August 07, 2012, 07:19:32 AM
I gained 7lbs the week i got married. It may have been more. I forget.
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Post by: merigayle on August 07, 2012, 08:06:42 AM
I get a free subscription to Family Circle and in there they have a feature on two families trying to get healthy, lose weight, etc. Well, each month they set goals for all the members of the family, for one, a 6 year old boy, his goal is eat less fast food. um, not like he gets in a car and drives to McDs and buys his own fast food. Just rubbed me the wrong way. How about mom and dad's goals are buy less shit for your kids???
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Post by: debbatx on August 07, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I gained 10 pounds on our honeymoon.  :-[

And meri, yeah, unless the kid has figured out how to sneak out of the house and hitch a ride to the fast food place, that one's kind of on the parents.
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Post by: merigayle on August 07, 2012, 10:20:51 AM
I gained 10 pounds on our honeymoon.  :-[

And meri, yeah, unless the kid has figured out how to sneak out of the house and hitch a ride to the fast food place, that one's kind of on the parents.
and steal money!!!!

hey, we were in vegas and probably walked many miles a day, and i am vegetarian, imagine what a week elsewhere would have done to my waistline :D
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Post by: merigayle on August 07, 2012, 12:02:20 PM
well, crap, instead of running today, i have to leave now and buy a bday gift for a party for DD tonight. I bought a gift and texted the mom, i got the cutest whatever and she was like, she already has it. Ugh. why did i open my trap? i could have just given it to her with the receipt. Off to go shopping for a girl who turns 8 today and is too old for Barbies  :eyeroll:
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Post by: rocketgirl on August 07, 2012, 12:34:32 PM
I had a bacon cheeseburger last night for dinner, but it was sooooo good.  And I dipped my fries in honey mustard, whereas I normally don't even eat but a couple of the fries.  I ate almost ALL of them.  Still down another .2 this morning (post run - probably just sweat). 
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Post by: Courtney on August 07, 2012, 12:42:26 PM
RG, when I was reading your post, I still thought it was Merigayle talking, and I was all "SHE ATE A BACON CHEESEBURGER????   :yikes:" 

:D
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Post by: rocketgirl on August 07, 2012, 12:48:58 PM
Ha!
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Post by: debbatx on August 07, 2012, 12:54:38 PM
RG, when I was reading your post, I still thought it was Merigayle talking, and I was all "SHE ATE A BACON CHEESEBURGER????   :yikes:" 

:D

LOL! Yeah, I'd have been totally confused and concerned about meri if she posted that she'd had a bacon cheeseburger. :D

Still being lazy as hell, but my eating is going pretty well. Had another acupuncture appointment yesterday. I dozed off twice.
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Post by: cgraz on August 07, 2012, 01:01:52 PM
I have acupuncture this afternoon and I can't wait. I'm counting on a nice nap.  :)

Then, I may hit Trader Joe's on the way home for a few things.
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Post by: debbatx on August 07, 2012, 02:07:36 PM
OMG, I don't know why, but I desperately want to go out and buy a binge. I got through lunch without doing it, but right now, the only thing I can think about is Reese's Mini Peanut Butter Cups.  :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:
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Post by: merigayle on August 07, 2012, 02:18:56 PM
debba- stay strong!

cgraz-- yeah for acupuncture

and no, not me eating cheeseburgers :D

So my freaking neighbor kid has everything. I called her mom from all these stores and she had everything. I did manage to piece some stuff together for her, but sheesh. And American Girl crap is EXPENSIVE. Luckily i had a 40% coupon at Michaels.
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Post by: debbatx on August 07, 2012, 02:27:13 PM
You're a nice person, meri. I'd have given up and bought something from Target with a gift receipt. I'm staying strong. There's a vending machine upstairs, but I've made a pact that I can get a diet coke from there after 5 (I work to 7 tonight). I'm hoping I'll be too lazy by then. And if not, well, I don't have nearly enough change on me to get a good binge going from the vending machine.
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Post by: merigayle on August 07, 2012, 02:45:34 PM
well the original gift was from Target and i did not have time to go back or i would have gotten her a gift card, but i hate gift card gifts.
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Post by: Courtney on August 07, 2012, 03:14:56 PM
OMG, I don't know why, but I desperately want to go out and buy a binge. I got through lunch without doing it, but right now, the only thing I can think about is Reese's Mini Peanut Butter Cups.  :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

 :hug:

I had a lower level binge on chocolate chips and peanut butter (from the jar) last night.  Out of nowhere.  So I hear ya. 

I'm seeing a hypnotherapist on Thursday.  My friend did this recently and has really been able to be successful with her evening/boredom eating.  I figured it was worth a shot. 
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Post by: merigayle on August 07, 2012, 03:29:20 PM
i saw a groupon recently (well a few months ago) for weight loss hypnosis, i almost bit! report back :)
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Post by: Courtney on August 07, 2012, 03:32:30 PM
i saw a groupon recently (well a few months ago) for weight loss hypnosis, i almost bit! report back :)
I will!  That's how my friend tried it, with a groupon.  She said it was not hokey, which she was expecting!  :D  So I'm hopeful I have a similar experience.  I figure the only thing I have to lose is $, and I have some flex money that needs to be spent, and I'm hoping I can submit for this. 
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Post by: debbatx on August 07, 2012, 04:12:07 PM
Courtney, that sounds really cool! Definitely report back.
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Post by: merigayle on August 07, 2012, 04:21:47 PM
i met with a hypnosis guy after experiencing severe anxiety and panic attacks following a car accident. The session was ok and i was about 70% better after it. I do not think i was hypnotized per se but we did a lot of guided imagery type of stuff.
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Post by: cgraz on August 07, 2012, 07:44:20 PM
I am very curious about the hypnosis - definitely need a full report!
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Post by: triciaflower on August 07, 2012, 11:55:52 PM
I've done it.

Not hokey at all.

Helped with my negative chatter and self-worth/depression/etc. I wish I'd stuck with it. I still use some of the guided imagery and relaxation techniques I learned. It didn't completely get me out of my funk, but it helped me process and deal with some of the stuff I was going through.

I can totally see how it could help with weight loss. You CAN train your mind.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 08, 2012, 07:40:00 AM
So went to a bday party with DD last night at the neighbors. No cake, but when i got there, DH and my other neighbor were so happy they saved me mac n cheese before it was all eaten (only vegetarian food). It was pretty darn good. Homemade. Luckily it was a cupcake cake not a cake and i only had a swipe of frosting :D
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Post by: debbatx on August 08, 2012, 09:52:13 AM
Tricia, that's really cool about the hypnosis. Hmmmmm....

And meri, good job at the party!

My scale was up a little this morning, but not too bad. I also had a massive bowl of raisin bran last night, so that could be part of it.
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Post by: Courtney on August 08, 2012, 10:57:02 AM
I've done it.

Not hokey at all.

Helped with my negative chatter and self-worth/depression/etc. I wish I'd stuck with it. I still use some of the guided imagery and relaxation techniques I learned. It didn't completely get me out of my funk, but it helped me process and deal with some of the stuff I was going through.

I can totally see how it could help with weight loss. You CAN train your mind.

That's great to hear!  I'm hopeful that it is a positive thing.  :)  It can't hurt, as far as I can tell!
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Post by: triciaflower on August 08, 2012, 11:37:27 AM
No, it doesn't hurt!

And afterwards you see everything with intense clarity. Like you have had the most restful sleep ever. I had an almost similar feeling when I was taking Sam-E.

One of the tricks I learned about food was to picture the "bad" food you are craving in black and white. There is more to it, I think. I'm sure there is a personal mantra you are supposed to repeat to yourself as you are tricking your mind into not wanting to have that certain thing.
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Post by: debbatx on August 08, 2012, 11:57:07 AM
Black and white, hmmm? Instead of in HD-3D color, complete with smell-o-vision?

Yeah, that would probably help. :)
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Post by: Courtney on August 08, 2012, 12:07:54 PM
Black and white, hmmm? Instead of in HD-3D color, complete with smell-o-vision?

Yeah, that would probably help. :)

:D  Right?  I swear to god I can sometimes feel, taste, and smell something in my head. 
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Post by: merigayle on August 08, 2012, 12:08:53 PM
because of you guys i bought some reese's minis to stash in the office file cabinet with our office secret snacks  :e)
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Post by: debbatx on August 08, 2012, 12:16:59 PM
How long is the drive from TX to PA? I'm on my way, meri!!!
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Post by: Magic Microbe on August 08, 2012, 12:22:47 PM
I ran here at the resort but sadly I slept through spin class here this morning. Maybe they have smothered later.
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Post by: triciaflower on August 08, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
I have a running/walking  "date" tonight with a couple of our customers! YAY.

I had packed my gym bag yesterday and of course I found every excuse not to go. So tonight they're meeting here at the shop, so I have no choice but to go.

 :runner:
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Post by: merigayle on August 08, 2012, 03:46:53 PM
I ran here at the resort but sadly I slept through spin class here this morning. Maybe they have smothered later.
smothered? :D
How long is the drive from TX to PA? I'm on my way, meri!!!
too long for me to wait :D
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Post by: debbatx on August 08, 2012, 04:33:33 PM
LOL! Bummer. It's okay, lunch was a disaster for me. Eh. Moving on.
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Post by: Bolloxd on August 08, 2012, 06:13:17 PM
MM, I hope you are enjoying yourself and having a great time!

I ate some reese cups from Halloween earlier...it was way too old & nasty.  I'm jealous of fresh candy, lol.

I've been slightly MIA.  The kids have been fighting nonstop lately.  Teaching TWO toddlers not to hit the shit out of each other is hard work.  I also have been panicking about the job situation.  I should start training on Sunday...but just got offered the job for the other place today.  The lady had no idea about wages so I can't decide until she can get HR to call me.  I get so stressed over decisions like this.

I have been running but that has started to be painful lately too.  My knee is really bothering me.  Oh, and the kids were up at 6:30 this morning making demands to sleep in our bed, so I'm lacking in sleep.  Waaaahhh.... :wah:   Gotta go make some dinner too.

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Post by: merigayle on August 08, 2012, 07:10:58 PM
Bolloxd, we are dying with one toddler i cannot even imagine!!!!!! DD has been sooooo naughty lately.
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Post by: Bolloxd on August 08, 2012, 07:22:18 PM
Meri, it must be something going on.  They were not this bad before but the last couple days have been a whiny nightmare with screams of NO! From all of us.  I think we are all just frustrated.  Both are still waiting on 2 yr molars to come through so I wonder if that is part of it
 

I have to remember to breathe.
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Post by: merigayle on August 08, 2012, 08:01:44 PM
Omg dont even get me started on teething, DD was the worst an no joke, we had a party when she got her last tooth! She has been screaching when upset with us and it is drivin us bonkers. She has a lil attitude lately and everything has to be her way and on her terms, well that is what she wants anyways!
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Post by: debbatx on August 08, 2012, 09:12:55 PM
Maybe you could get them mini versions of the headgear and boxing gloves they wear at the Olympics?

If it helps at all, we're trying to break Reid of needing DH to sit in the rocker in his room before he'll fall asleep. DH sat for 10 minutes tonight and then left. Reid's screaming "MOMMY AND DADDY!!!!!!!" and sobbing like we've just left him on the front steps of the orphanage. I've already gone in once.  :'( I feel like shit right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 09, 2012, 09:07:10 AM
so i love the spiraler and made zucchini pasta last night again, however, this is not a meal. no way i could fill myself up on zucchini and not be ravishing hungry in the middle of the night. It is a great side dish however. YUM!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 09, 2012, 09:17:03 AM
Sounds good!

The scale was up again this morning, but at least I have a reason - my period showed up a few days early.  :grr:

On the bright side, I *knew* there was no way I'd eaten enough to explain 4 pounds.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 09, 2012, 11:37:33 AM
thanks for the reviews, meri.  I love zucchini.  They're mostly water, though, so no wonder you can't fill yourself up.  OTOH, I could see eating that zucchini 'pasta' with fresh tomato sauce, cheese and walnuts and making it more filling and a rounder meal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 09, 2012, 12:07:40 PM
Maybe you could get them mini versions of the headgear and boxing gloves they wear at the Olympics?

If it helps at all, we're trying to break Reid of needing DH to sit in the rocker in his room before he'll fall asleep. DH sat for 10 minutes tonight and then left. Reid's screaming "MOMMY AND DADDY!!!!!!!" and sobbing like we've just left him on the front steps of the orphanage. I've already gone in once.  :'( I feel like shit right now.

I tried to put my niece to bed the last time I was there, and we were both sobbing by the time my brother got home and I finally gave up.  Now, I know she was manipulating me, but jeebus, I don't know how parents do it! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 09, 2012, 12:11:36 PM
It's rough. All told, though, it was "only" about 10 minutes of crying. Longest 10 minutes ever.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 09, 2012, 12:20:19 PM
thanks for the reviews, meri.  I love zucchini.  They're mostly water, though, so no wonder you can't fill yourself up.  OTOH, I could see eating that zucchini 'pasta' with fresh tomato sauce, cheese and walnuts and making it more filling and a rounder meal.
or chickpeas or something in it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on August 09, 2012, 12:37:14 PM
Sorry if you already said but which spiral slicer did you buy?  I have been looking at them. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 09, 2012, 01:38:20 PM
i posted the one from Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/World-Cuisine-A4982799-Tri-Blade-Vegetable/dp/B0007Y9WHQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344533942&sr=8-1&keywords=spiral+slicer (http://www.amazon.com/World-Cuisine-A4982799-Tri-Blade-Vegetable/dp/B0007Y9WHQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344533942&sr=8-1&keywords=spiral+slicer)

the fries were a little thin, more shoe string than curly, but still good.

i had a half decent run today. treadmill. still undecided about my race next weekend (19th) and if i will go or not. no entrant list is posted, so that is part of my deciding factor, if i could be competitive or not. may email the RD who is a friend.

I think i am hypoglycemic for sure! coming home from dropping DD off at school following yoga, i was shaky and lightheaded. I barely ate much today. wtf?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 09, 2012, 02:38:28 PM
I had a 800-something calorie panino (?) at Panera. Good lord, those things are calorie dense. Not that that should be too surprising, given that they have chicken AND cheese AND bacon.

I enjoyed it!  :D  I think my low-level nausea has finally left the building and I have barely eaten the last few days, so it probably shouldn't matter too much.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 09, 2012, 04:42:51 PM
Three days in a row running at this resort...getting back into it. I even lifted weights. I swear I could get used to this playing like I am rich stuff...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 09, 2012, 04:43:40 PM
Three days in a row running at this resort...getting back into it. I even lifted weights. I swear I could get used to this playing like I am rich stuff...
sounds nice :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 09, 2012, 07:30:00 PM
And to top of my not so stellar day, I had a Girl Scout Cookie Candy Bar (Thin Mint, natch) for dinner. Hmmmm!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 09, 2012, 07:34:35 PM
And to top of my not so stellar day, I had a Girl Scout Cookie Candy Bar (Thin Mint, natch) for dinner. Hmmmm!
yum!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 09, 2012, 07:54:31 PM
came home to a big delicious pot of spaghetti for dinner. yum.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 09, 2012, 08:19:22 PM
I think i am hypoglycemic for sure! coming home from dropping DD off at school following yoga, i was shaky and lightheaded. I barely ate much today. wtf?

You probably know this but if you are barely eating, yes, your blood sugar will be hard to stabilize.  Are you eating enough protein? 


And MM, glad you're enjoying your honeymoon.  Hope running and lifting isn't the only exercise you're getting.  :groucho:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 10, 2012, 07:54:13 AM
oh this was a rare occurrence, i generally eat more than i had yesterday, we were just in a rush and i was out of the house for a longer than anticipated time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on August 10, 2012, 08:00:37 AM
MM, that sounds great - I usually love running and stuff on vacation. It is so nice to enjoy the scenery, etc. and the relaxed pace when you're away.

This morning is weigh-in day for me, and I hit my first goal - lost 5% of my starting weight.  :) It feels like it took a while, but I think considering that the time included that week at yearbook camp and two weeks of vacation, and I didn't totally deprive myself of indulgences during those, that's pretty good. It's a good feeling to know that I can get through times like that and still reach a goal and either lose or maintain.

I think the biggest thing that I like about WW so far is that every day feels like a fresh start, so I am not beating myself up when there's a day where I dip too far into those extra points. I just start fresh the next day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 10, 2012, 09:16:21 AM
Seriously, does anyone understand how hormones can do this to you? Where does period weight come from? I haven't eaten enough to gain what the scale says I've gained, so it can't be a true fat gain, you know? WTF?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on August 10, 2012, 09:26:34 AM
Is it fluid retention? The PMS/period bloat is the pits.

In general, I've been trying to drink lots of water, with sliced lemon in it. I don't know if that helps or not, but I feel less puffy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 10, 2012, 09:45:08 AM
water retention.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 10, 2012, 12:14:47 PM
Seriously? Good God. I feel like if it were all bloat/water retention, I should see that in my fingers or ankles or something, but I guess not. Huh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 10, 2012, 12:45:48 PM
I wonder why that lemon in the water trick seems to work?  I've heard lots of people swear by it for reducing bloating.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 10, 2012, 12:47:33 PM
i think water with lemon is vomit inducing :( i also heard salty water because it leaches the bloat from you. seems counter intuitive to me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 10, 2012, 01:30:42 PM
I personally don't like lemon in my water, either. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 10, 2012, 01:50:20 PM
must.hop.on.treadmill.

i have been really nauseated lately, this has been a few weeks, no i am not pregnant, i better not be pregnant, but it has been going on for a little while, so that can be ruled out. But i must not use it as an excuse to eat toast and not exercise :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 10, 2012, 02:14:30 PM
I need to get back to working out. I've slacked since getting back from vacation. :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 10, 2012, 03:14:44 PM
I love lemon and water! Do limes do the same thing? I have a box of them here at the shop for limeades.

I ran two days ago and I'm still sore! gah. It had been a few weeks since I really got out there. I've only been walking. It felt really good.. except I felt like I was hacking up a lung afterward.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 10, 2012, 03:59:21 PM
i ran/walked today. atleast i have the new season of Masterchef to look forward to on the TM :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on August 10, 2012, 04:04:12 PM
I wonder why that lemon in the water trick seems to work?  I've heard lots of people swear by it for reducing bloating.

seltzer
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 10, 2012, 05:38:51 PM
selzta? salsa?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on August 10, 2012, 07:03:33 PM
no, seltzer water.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 10, 2012, 08:11:05 PM
selzta? salsa?

:D  I like mine with a big salad
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 10, 2012, 10:19:07 PM
It's like a regular salad. Except BIGGER. It comes in a big bowl, and has lots of stuff in it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 11, 2012, 07:18:17 AM
It's like a regular salad. Except BIGGER. It comes in a big bowl, and has lots of stuff in it!
:rotfl:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 11, 2012, 08:09:55 AM
ok, I have had a bad couple of days on the food front, and just polished off a hazelnut croissant for breakfast. Now, back to Austerity!

(I'm hoping posting it here will make me actually do it!). :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 11, 2012, 08:37:22 AM
you can do it!

no nausea this morning but still had to have a piece of toast.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on August 11, 2012, 08:43:25 AM
Make a fresh start, VP!  :)

I also had toast, but I liked it.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 11, 2012, 09:04:31 AM
oh i love toast, but i love it too much. if i was on a deserted island and could only have three foods, toast would be one.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on August 11, 2012, 09:07:47 AM
Yeah, bread and bready things are my biggest challenge so far on WW. I love bread of all kinds. So I am finding smaller portion-controlled ways to enjoy it. So far, the toughest part if when I go out to eat and they plop that bread basket on the table. On Wednesday I resisted warm rolls at a Mom & Pop Italian restaurant. It wasn't easy! Then I did have pasta, but with plain marinara and broccoli, instead of something meaty or cheesy.

Do any of you guys have specific strategies you use when you go out to eat? Things you  have to work hard to avoid overdoing?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 11, 2012, 10:20:43 AM
we rarely ever go out to eat so i almost without a doubt over do it  :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 11, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
MoS!!!! Kiwi is coming to Gateway, i see a meetup at lunch in our future :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 11, 2012, 04:25:27 PM
cgraz, I usually try to go for something like a spinach salad with grilled chicken and not too much cheese. OR, I plan for it all week and splurge like the next day is the apocalypse and to hell with it all.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on August 11, 2012, 05:16:59 PM
MoS!!!! Kiwi is coming to Gateway, i see a meetup at lunch in our future :D

Ok! I'm pretty sure there's one in Ardmore but I've never been. I went to a new fro yo place in bryn mawr that week , I think it was calmed fro creations. These places are popping up all over the place. Soon the market will be saturated!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 11, 2012, 05:54:50 PM
Ok! I'm pretty sure there's one in Ardmore but I've never been. I went to a new fro yo place in bryn mawr that week , I think it was calmed fro creations. These places are popping up all over the place. Soon the market will be saturated!
a TCBY one opened up in Exton, soooo good, going to go tomorrow after Kohls :) I liked it better than Kiwi, but Kiwi was good and i only went to the W Chester one. yum yum yum.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 11, 2012, 10:31:56 PM
The best solution to not eating much when you go out to eat is to take a set of twins with you.  I promise you will not eat very much food at all.    Otherwise, I try to drink a ton of water and then just eat what appeals to me.  I generally end up with leftovers that I can use for another meal too.


Today has been day 3 of the no-nap trend.   :yikes:  My exercise has been child focused and not running.  We have done some trail walking the last couple mornings and the kids love it.  My knee is still hurting.  I have a full day of training tomorrow so running is not likely, although I may need it to relax afterwards.

Oh, yeah, I have blue hair now... I dyed it again but left the color on for an hour instead of 15 minutes.  I think it'll last longer than before. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 11, 2012, 11:02:52 PM
How's the training going?  Which job did you end up taking?  pharmacy tech?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 11, 2012, 11:41:56 PM
I ate HORRIBLY today.

And I paid the price. I felt so sick all afternoon. All that wheat at breakfast and lunch when I had gotten used to almost none. No bueno.

So I just have watermelon for dinner. I didn't feel like eating at all.  :o
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 11, 2012, 11:50:15 PM
I'm doing the training for the pharmacy tech job but still waiting on the HR dept for the Labcorp job to contact me.  I think I would prefer that one, but until I hear something definite I'm still going forward with the pharmacy one.   The training is going to be a long process that starts tomorrow, then 2 weeks to complete an online course, then more time at another store training, and then at the store I was hired to work at...  lots of very corporate stuff.  I'm not overly tolerant of excessive corporate stuff...some is OK but this is OTT.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 12, 2012, 07:35:26 AM
Bolloxd-- i think we are on the verge of not wanting/needing to nap anymore. She has been napping most days when she is home (sat-mon) but at school she is not napping or barely napping. Every kid is napping, so it is not like other kids are playing and the little ones are sleeping, everyone naps (the older camp kids go off campus during nap time to local pool). However, yesterday DD woke up sick :( out of the blue, fever, kept getting higher and she was PATHETIC. I think some of it was drama queen stuff, but it was pretty sad. she seems better now and woke with 99F vs 101.5 last night. Not sure if i will get a run in today. I barely slept last night with DD, she was whimpering a lot of the night and waking often. But I was so worried about her that i stayed in her room all night.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 12, 2012, 08:33:15 AM
oh and my eating has been meh and i have not gained weight.  :confused: not complaining.

may take DD for brunch if we can hold out until 10am :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 12, 2012, 12:01:49 PM
Blargh.  :sigh: :grr:

That is all.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 13, 2012, 10:09:22 AM
Okay, where did that wagon go? I was riding along just fine and then all of a sudden, I got bounced out into a ditch, run over, and left behind. WTF?

I don't even want to talk about the scale right now.

I have 6 weeks until our anniversary trip. Need to get back on track. Gah.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 13, 2012, 11:44:04 AM
Get back on that wagon, debba!

I am going to take a nap. So there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 13, 2012, 11:55:30 AM
Thanks, VP! I needed that. Gah.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 13, 2012, 12:13:47 PM
Austerity begins today. Enough of eating like a little piggy and not exercising.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 13, 2012, 12:35:51 PM
Are you talking to me, MM? ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 13, 2012, 12:43:10 PM
Are you talking to me, MM? ;)
:D


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 13, 2012, 12:59:56 PM
I was like, "WTF? She has a spy cam in my house??" :o
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 13, 2012, 01:03:36 PM
I was like, "WTF? She has a spy cam in my house??" :o

Apparently we have both jumped off and been run over by the wagon. I will try to catch it so we can hop back on. ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 13, 2012, 01:08:45 PM
Ugh. I know this probably isn't the place for it but I just can't eat. The good news is that all of my clothes hang off of me- we went to the beach yesterday and I had to wear shorts the whole time because my bathing suit bottom is so saggy that it gaps in the seat.

When I do eat, my stomach violently rejects my efforts a few hours later.

Initially DD was monitoring how much I was eating and giving me a hard time about not eating enough. So, I've been trying to eat most of my food in front of her.

I know, this is VERY disfunctional of me. Really, truly, I do. But... if this is one way I can keep my sh1t together long enough to do all the unwinding, I'm ok with it. I can fix the emotional not-eating part later.

Hard to tell how much weight I've lost in the past 1.5 weeks because I've been weighing myself on a variety of scales and I'm not exactly sure where I was when I started... but I *think* I've broke into a new decade and might be closing in on what was my ultimate goal. At this rate, I'm going to be my thinnest in probably 15 years. I need to try on my "skinny jeans". I can get back into all my skinny slacks.

Not exactly the silver lining I would have hoped for. Guess I should have signed up for the wlc afterall. ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 13, 2012, 01:09:59 PM
MM - Good, you've been running more than I have lately, so you have a better shot at catching it. :)

RA, just be careful, okay? You're under a lot of stress right now and you don't need to end up sick on top of it.  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 13, 2012, 01:14:08 PM
RA, I second Debba's sentiments...   :hug:  I'm sorry you are going thru this.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 13, 2012, 03:08:55 PM
 :hug: RA. I know you are going thru a lot. We are here for you  :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 13, 2012, 04:07:02 PM
HUGE hugs for you, RA.  I wish there were something I could do to make it easier on you.  I know you don't want to talk about what's going on, but if you do, we're here for you.

How are you doing with sleep?  Are you getting some?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 13, 2012, 04:26:52 PM
Hugs to you RA. 

I have fallen off the exercise wagon.  Kids are off the nap train.  I'm off my rocker.

Training was more punishment than I expected with more to come.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 13, 2012, 04:47:56 PM
 :hug: Bolloxd.  It takes a bit to settle back in.  And I'm sad to say that staying on the workout wagon gets a lot tougher when you go back to work, but hopefully you'll find a way to make it happen.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 13, 2012, 07:30:34 PM
so i was up a few lbs this morning and was like, darn all that bread i have been eating, but then i got my period, FOUR DAYS EARLY tonight, so maybe that was all it was and why i wanted so much bread :D And why my boobs hurt over the weekend. And i have been really really cranky. And maybe that is why i have been nauseous, crazy hormones.  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 13, 2012, 08:26:11 PM
So it looks like I gained 5 pounds on vacation. Sigh...I didn't eat THAT much.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 07:48:34 AM
So it looks like I gained 5 pounds on vacation. Sigh...I didn't eat THAT much.  :(
i gained almost twice that when i got married.  :hug: i was not eating that much but it was all eating out, unlike at home, where it is all cooking at home.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 14, 2012, 08:03:17 AM
You'll take it off, MM, as long as you get back into your workout routine now that you're home.

We went out for Mexican last night to a place that has the world's best refried bean dip.  Pretty sure I put on 5 lbs just last night but am not stepping on the scale.  :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 08:51:45 AM
that sounds yum!!!

so Badwater emailed asking if people wanted to buy any additional finisher's shirts and i said yes, and i wanted a men's shirt, the RD emailed me back and basically accused me of buying the shirt for someone who was not a finisher. I was like, omg, i just do not want a tight fitting shirt!!  :-[ wtf? seriously?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on August 14, 2012, 09:16:48 AM
That's not very nice. I hope he gives you the shirt you want.

Thinking of you, RA, and hoping you're doing ok.

MM, no doubt you'll take it off once you're back in a good routine.

Bolloxd, hope the training is going well. I am always exhausted from that kind of stuff and have a hard time putting exercise into the mix when I'm jammed up in meetings, workshops, etc. It wipes me out.

Speaking of wiped out, I am tired. I mean really tired. Tired of peeing on sticks and tired of lots of things. I just found out that the couple we're vacationing with next week are preggo, like due in 2 months. It just made me feel like everyone around us is moving forward and we're stuck. I'm so tired of what we've been going through. Then I felt awful for not just being happy for our friends and for thinking about myself. The anniversary of last year's loss (right at this time) is hitting me hard. I am just out of ways to deal with it right now.

But I didn't eat junk. So there's that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 09:24:49 AM
 :hug: cgraz. infertility is a cruel roller coaster.

and once again i am so uninspired w breakfast. i had left over tofu pad thai just now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on August 14, 2012, 09:25:42 AM
 :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on August 14, 2012, 10:48:18 AM
{{cgraz}}

I can't relate to exactly what you're going through, but can definitely relate to feeling left behind as those around you move forward.

 :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 14, 2012, 10:59:09 AM
cgraz,  :hug:

I ate nachos for dinner last night, and my fingers are swollen up like little pink sausages.  Apparently it was more salt than I needed.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on August 14, 2012, 11:05:03 AM
Thanks, guys. I hate being a downer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on August 14, 2012, 11:15:30 AM
that sounds yum!!!

so Badwater emailed asking if people wanted to buy any additional finisher's shirts and i said yes, and i wanted a men's shirt, the RD emailed me back and basically accused me of buying the shirt for someone who was not a finisher. I was like, omg, i just do not want a tight fitting shirt!!  :-[ wtf? seriously?

Really?  TJMaxx is selling the adidas jackets from Boston marathon 2012. As far as I know, you can wear whatever you want.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 11:25:08 AM
Thanks, guys. I hate being a downer.
and that is what we are here for! be a downer, you are allowed. Hang in there!

Really?  TJMaxx is selling the adidas jackets from Boston marathon 2012. As far as I know, you can wear whatever you want.
yeah. Totally accused me of buying the shirt for someone else. The woman's shirt from last year was so small i could not wear it, total disappointment (this is the first time they ever had any to sell after the race) and this year at the finish line i asked for a mens and the mens med was actually a bit snug (wtf?) so i asked him now for a mens lg.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 11:53:51 AM
I need to just find a bridge to hide under until I can get my shit together. I've totally backslid. Backslided? Eh, whatever. Point being, I love me some Reese's Minis. :mad2:
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Post by: VP of Tea on August 14, 2012, 01:06:22 PM
and that is what we are here for! be a downer, you are allowed. Hang in there!

My first thought also. And hugs to RA too, but I agree with Courtney and Debba too that you should be careful to get worn out. Easy to say, I know.

Debba! Get out from under that bridge! Hiding is no good, you need to get out in the open and forsake the Reese's whatchamacallits. ;)

I got nothing interesting to report. No wait, I do! I had a Milky Way candy bar yesterday, first time in a long time. It was so not worth it, which I am quite happy about. I won't have any trouble skipping them. Well, until that box of Thin Mint candy bars in the freezer at work is empty, that is... :d
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Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 01:14:20 PM
i forced myself to run. and i survived.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 01:21:56 PM
Thanks, VP. Reese's Minis and Whatchamacalits are actually two different things. Both delicious, though, LOL. :D

And I'd give my right arm for some of each right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on August 14, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
Thanks, VP. Reese's Minis and Whatchamacalits are actually two different things. Both delicious, though, LOL. :D

And I'd give my right arm for some of each right now.

Snap out of it, missy!   Write down some goals instead.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 01:42:34 PM
I can always count on you for tough love, caito. Goal-free at the moment.
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Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 01:50:52 PM
i have no motivation lately. sleep has been poor and DD a handful, that could be it. And DH cranky monster. Sigh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 02:15:30 PM
Yeah, Reid has definitely been challenging lately. Blargh. Sleep has FINALLY gotten better for him, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 14, 2012, 02:25:54 PM
I can always count on you for tough love, caito. Goal-free at the moment.

Well, let's do this thing, chicken wing!  (does anyone else say that, or is it just me?)

My goals, because clearly hoarding them vaguely in my head is not doing the trick:

Lose 10 lbs by Oct 6th.  That should be doable, right?  The smaller part of this goal is to track my calories DAILY.
Run a 5K on Sept 8th (walk/run) and run/run a 5K on Oct 27th. 
Cook at home more.  Specifically, eat out once per week.  This is going to be hard for us. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
I've never heard that, but LOL!

Okay, let's see.... I hesitate to commit to a specific number of pounds lost, because I can do everything perfectly and then get my period that week and I'm effed. So, what *can* I control?

By October 6th (good pick, that's my bday!):

1. Complete C25K already. Jesus. It's taken long enough.
2. Have a next step in training decided on
3. Gone to the gym for all my scheduled training sessions - *I* will not cancel, except for the two days around our anniversary trip.
4. No binges
5. Eat out once per week - I'll have to get DH on board with this so it's a little less in my control. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on August 14, 2012, 02:47:40 PM
I've never heard that, but LOL!

Okay, let's see.... I hesitate to commit to a specific number of pounds lost, because I can do everything perfectly and then get my period that week and I'm effed. So, what *can* I control?

By October 6th (good pick, that's my bday!):

1. Complete C25K already. Jesus. It's taken long enough.
2. Have a next step in training decided on
3. Gone to the gym for all my scheduled training sessions - *I* will not cancel, except for the two days around our anniversary trip.
4. No binges
5. Eat out once per week - I'll have to get DH on board with this so it's a little less in my control. Hmmm.


These are great goals.  I agree that basing a goal on a number on the scale can be counterproductive.   

And add in being kind to yourself.  If you slip up, don't beat yourself up and throw in the towel.  Start again with your next choice.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 02:51:07 PM
I'm not so good at the being kind part. One thing at a time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: blue sleep on August 14, 2012, 03:26:51 PM
Ok -- I've been lurking in the thread but not participating for a while.  Can I put down some goals too?

I have a lot of non health related goals but here are the two most important in terms of food and exercise:

I'm 8 lbs down since June -- I want to go down another 8 by Oct. 1. 
Consistently run (6 days/week) and build a strong base for marathon training beginning in November.

My progress so far today? 
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One word:  Cheetos.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 03:29:57 PM
Ooooh, cheetos. Yeah, I've been lured in by their siren call.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 03:34:29 PM
Cheetos :D you guys are funny :D goals? not gain 10lbs again this fall post Badwater like i did last year  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 03:38:00 PM
That's a good goal, meri!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 03:42:31 PM
i am really wishy washy on running this race Sunday. It is free btw. My hang up? MOMMY GUILT  :argh: wtf? I know DH would not hesitate to worry about leaving me all day to go off to do something like this, so why do i? and i plan on taking DD to the amusement park on monday if she wants anyways :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 03:50:52 PM
I missed it (as usual) - what race?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 04:08:02 PM
I missed it (as usual) - what race?
just a low key 12 hour race.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 04:26:26 PM
Only in your world is that low-key. :D DD will survive.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 04:40:32 PM
Only in your world is that low-key. :D DD will survive.
low key as in free and self reporting. :D yes she will survive. it's hard, you know :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 04:44:33 PM
Yeah, it is hard. Hell, I feel guilty leaving the house for a 30-minute run.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
Yeah, it is hard. Hell, I feel guilty leaving the house for a 30-minute run.
yep. and if it was not so far away, i would have considered bringing a sitter or something and DD. I have to leave around 4:45am to get there though :( oh well, she'll live.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 05:35:20 PM
Oh, I didn't realize it was a haul. That's a bummer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 05:40:59 PM
Oh, I didn't realize it was a haul. That's a bummer.
yeah. i am going to play the race by ear and i can always leave early if i am done. I really want to go because i think i have a really good chance at placing if i can stay focussed and not be too lazy :D I hope i could do better than just place. I scoped out the competition and there is a good chance, but there were a couple names on there that could maybe do as good or better. I ran this race two years ago and DH ran 6 hours and i ran 6 hours (we did bring DD) and if i had run the whole thing i would have been 1st female.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 14, 2012, 05:56:12 PM
Then go for it!!! :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 14, 2012, 05:59:49 PM
i know and i am going to be pissed if i don't do well, LOL!!!! I did another one of this RD's races and I came in 4th, the next two years, my finish mileage would have been good for 2nd and third, grrrr. It was a 48 hour race. I am so lazy since Badwater, but maybe this will be good for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 14, 2012, 06:14:11 PM
My goals:
Only eat out for lunch once a week
Only go out for coffee once a week
Only go out to dinner once a week
Write down what I am eating
Go to WW weekly
Do some workout of at least an hour 6 days a week
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 14, 2012, 09:59:22 PM
Those are good goals. The eating out thing is the easiest way to cut calories, sodium, and fat for sure.

You just have to plan ahead. I made my lunch for tomorrow while DH was making dinner tonight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 14, 2012, 11:39:20 PM
Goals are good!  I need a few myself in hopes to get me moving again.

1.  Go to bed before midnight, preferably by 11:00.
2.  Plan meals at least for 3 days a week.
3.  Drink more water, at least 2 full glasses daily.  Dr visit today suggested my new dizziness & numb arms could be lack of fluids!?
4.  Run at least 30 minutes every other day, more is better but this is minimum.
5.  Drink wine as needed without feeling guilty over it.

I should put them somewhere visible in the house too.


I did some shopping for work clothes today...a nightmare.  I was eventually able to get some dress pants that fit despite PMS bloat.  More training for work tomorrow.  DH is already whining about having to watch the kids and do his work while I'm away.  Well, duh, get used to it.  A rather touchy subject for me since he would only need to work a few more hours to make the same income as it would take me a whole week (or two) to earn.  Plus I am still doing the household chores...and the MFer complained that I didn't clear away the kitchen dishes sooner tonight! 

We are both a little moody lately.

I'm going to bed now or will totally fail my 1st goal.

 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: blue sleep on August 15, 2012, 08:45:03 AM
Had intended to overcome the cheeto incident with nice healthy bowl of DH's homemade chicken soup for dinner.  Came home and...the pot smelled like poop.  Over the course of one day, the whole (one day old) pot of soup went completely rancid.  Don't know what happened.  Yuck.

We split some TJ's frozen shepherd's pie--which isn't all that bad, caloriewise--but ate with onion roll with butter.  Then padded over to the bakery next door for chocolate insanity cake.

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But today's another day!  Ran 4.  PB and wasa for breakfast. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 15, 2012, 09:09:17 AM
Bolloxd, I *love* your last goal. :D

So my alarm went off this morning and I felt like I'd been run over by a truck. Moderate congestion, my throat hurts from the dripping, slightly achy muscles, headache... how does my body know when I'm planning on getting back on track? The mold has been high all week and I've been fine. I decide to hop back on the wagon and start running again, and BAM! Noooooo, says my body, no you won't, dammit!

WTF?

I need a nap.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 15, 2012, 10:42:24 AM
OMFG, it is FREEZING in here. Seriously, I had to go get my jacket from the car and it's useless. My fingers are turning blue under the nails from the cold and I'm shivering so hard I can barely type. I better at least be burning calories from this. I might very well go home at lunch.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 15, 2012, 03:54:07 PM
So, I finally found our scale yesterday. I weighed myself mid-day so probably a little higher than my actual weight and I'm 2lbs into a new decade. I was able to zip up my skinny jeans that I last fit into about 10 years ago. Now, I wouldn't say they "fit" particularly- but I got them zipped. The jeans I was happy to fit myself into in december are now loose all around and I can slide them on/off over my hips. I'm wearing a pair of slacks that I purchased in 2004 and they fit me perfectly. Of course, at the time I felt like a cow at this weight.  ;)

I couldn't find my belt this morning. Which means I need to tear everything apart tonight to try and find it. I'm down to one pair of slacks (they ones I'm wearing- and they are winter weight, and lined)  I can wear without a belt and all of the dresses I have with me need a belt also. That one pesky little piece of wardrobe single handedly renders my entire work wardrobe that I have with me totally useless. But, I'm trying really hard not to spend any money AND I was really hoping not to drive the 50 miles round trip to go back to the house this week.  :sigh:

Then, after a 4+ month absence, I got my period today.

It's been that kind of week- I got a huge (like 8") rosette rock chip in my windshield that needs to be fixed immediately. I am sick of spare-room surfing so I booked two week-long stays in vacation rentals for the last two weeks until we move into the new place... and then I got called out on a business trip next week, so one of them I won't even stay at for most of it.

I feel like a total storm cloud today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 15, 2012, 05:23:08 PM
I'm sorry, RA - that all sounds super-stressful.

I'm officially sick. Not sure what it is yet, but I'm going to the clinic tonight to see. I've had a 101.8 fever pretty much since I got home this morning.  >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 15, 2012, 05:44:42 PM
Feel better Debba.
RA that all sounds stressful.  Ugh.  I shall work on my goal #5 with you in mind.

I had 4 hrs of training today.  I'm not used to being on my feet like I was...I'm sure to get used to it again. 
I was freezing today too but that was due to a/c overuse.  The pharmacy even had a heater on. 

My planned meal for today went like blue sleeps.  The chicken I was gonna cook is still in date but totally off.   The smell is stuck in my head.



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 15, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
 :o

The thought of bad chicken just... OMG.

Dr. appointment at 7:40 tonight, across town. It was either that, or wait until midafternoon tomorrow. I suspect strep. I don't feel shitty enough for it to be flu.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on August 15, 2012, 06:13:20 PM
Don't scare me with your chicken!  I bought chicken Sunday with a sell by date of 8/21 (which is next Tuesday).  However, it says to use or freeze within 48 hours of purchase.  It better be ok to cook with tomorrow night!     :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 15, 2012, 07:05:52 PM
I do that all the time, rg - it's almost always fine.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on August 15, 2012, 07:32:28 PM
I do that all the time, rg - it's almost always fine.

It's that "almost" part...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 15, 2012, 07:35:05 PM
 :hug: RA

Debba- do you not have Minute Clinics at your CVSs? I walked right in for a strep test when i thought i had strep and the woman was a retired dr.

So i got my period yesterday, then nothing ALL DAY TODAY until just now. My hormones are so bizarre and i ate 2 slices of bread for afternoon snack. I have become a bread monster  :panic: gotta stop letting it into the house, but DH is really into tomato and zucchini sandwiches right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 15, 2012, 08:48:38 PM
So apparently there is a free already paid for vacation rental in Seattle. Who wants to vacation with me?  :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 15, 2012, 10:17:54 PM
Hope you're resting up now debba.
Meri, it could be remaining Mirena hormones along with running Badwater.  The one thing I've actually appreciated since getting the Mirena removed is that I finally have predictable & regular periods.  I never had those before.  Of course I've just jinxed myself.
MM, I'd love a vacation!! PICK ME!!  Unfortunately Seattle is a bit far to hitch hike.

The chicken I had was good until the 18th so I thought I had a couple days left.  Oh well.  I had some diced chicken in the freezer and ended up breading & frying it....it was so awesome.  I'm hoping to focus on consistent meals rather than healthy.  I'll work on that next.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on August 16, 2012, 06:11:51 AM
Does Minidriver, the original poster, even read this thread anymore?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 16, 2012, 08:01:10 AM
Does Minidriver, the original poster, even read this thread anymore?
she does, but with her accident she was checking in less but did well through all that and i do not think she gained any weight. When i broke my foot, i gained like 20lbs! LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 16, 2012, 08:49:12 AM
It's not strep, which is good, but it's "just" a virus, which means I have to ride it out. Awesome. The fever broke last night, I just feel like I've been stomped on by a herd of elephants. I'm going back to bed.

Seriously, how does my body know these things? I make all these goals and it's like, "Hell no, biatch! You're going to get sick now so you stay off track and stay fat! None of this skinny shit for you!"
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 16, 2012, 10:24:29 AM
Debba, be kind to yourself when you're sick! Note that being kind does not involve Reese's or watchamacallits (I totally didn't know that was a thing also. The things I learn here).  ;)

RA, does it make more sense to buy a belt rather than drive 50 miles to find the one you have? I'm sorry you have to go through all this stress.

I was on my own for dinner last night, so I made a sandwich (which is what I always do when DH doesn't cook). Nice bread, with leftover hanger steak, greens, an heirloom tomato and ancho mayonaise. It was gooooood! And I had my favorite drink du jour with it: oj, ice and blueberries, blended. So really a smoothie, but no dairy so not as filling.

Now that it's finally getting cooler again, I'm giving some thought to running. I haven't run in weeks. This year so far has been a total bust. Bad VPoT.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 16, 2012, 10:43:13 AM
I found the belt.  :banana:

DD and I had a lovely evening. We walked to the grocery store to pick up jam making supplies. Then we made dinner and relaxed in the backyard. I was too tired to make Jam yesterday though so we'll probably do it tonight. It's supposed to be 90 today though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 16, 2012, 11:16:16 AM
I found the belt.  :banana:

DD and I had a lovely evening. We walked to the grocery store to pick up jam making supplies. Then we made dinner and relaxed in the backyard. I was too tired to make Jam yesterday though so we'll probably do it tonight. It's supposed to be 90 today though!

Woot! or  :w00t:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 16, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
ok mommas, here is a question, let me know if you think i overeacted, lol.

So DH has a sweet tooth and will basically hoover sweet things from the house. All the time he eats things that i bring home for DD as a treat. Well, a patient of mine brought me a box of beautifully decorated italian cookies for Zoe. THere were butterflies, fish, flowers, and cupcakes (on the cookies). Well all yesterday she talked about how she was looking forward to eating the cupcake cookie and after school we looked at the two cupcake shaped cookies and she was asking me what the blue one would taste like and how she could not wait to eat it. So anywho, while she was in her bath, DH ate almost the entire box of cookies. I caught him eating one of the last ones and saw he ate all the cupcake ones. He got really upset at me when i got really upset with him. We just had a discussion abotu it on the phone and he just does not understand that if there is food in the house, it is common courtesy to ask if anyone was planning on eating it before eating it all. he was like, don't bring home a whole box of cookies and tell me not to eat them. i was like, i am not saying that, but if you asked, i would have said eat them all except the blue cupcake one and it would not have been a problem. ugh. and the bakery is too far away from either of our works to replace it :( I also told him i am the one who is always making up excuses on where her food went and dealing with the tears.

am i wrong?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 16, 2012, 12:26:25 PM
Nope, I'd also expect him to explain it to her.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on August 16, 2012, 12:41:15 PM
He can't understand why his toddler daughter is upset that she didn't get the cookie she was looking forward to all day??   

He can't behave like a responsible adult and not eat an entire box of cookies that are on the counter for a few hours?

He needs to grow the hell up and start acting like man and a father.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 16, 2012, 12:43:19 PM
This happens in our house too but only I end up missing out. It frustrates me. We had an entire box of ice cream bars and I got one and then they were magically gone.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 16, 2012, 12:44:47 PM
And I think HE should go get more for her...I don't care how far away it is.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on August 16, 2012, 12:45:05 PM
And I think HE should go get more for her...I don't care how far away it is.

YEP.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on August 16, 2012, 12:59:35 PM
This happens in our house too but only I end up missing out. It frustrates me. We had an entire box of ice cream bars and I got one and then they were magically gone.

This is why I always took my Girl Scout cookies to work.   :>D: 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 16, 2012, 01:05:24 PM
Yeah, I'd be pretty pissed off about that too... let him do all the explaining AND he can go get her more cookies AND he can apologize to her and to you. 

I can see his side of not wanting to ask about having to eat food in the house but if it is a special treat, like these were, then he should at least politely offer some to you & DD.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 16, 2012, 01:09:33 PM
I'd say, well Zoe, go ask Daddy why he ate your cupcake cookie. 

Come on dude.  I'm a power binger, and even I would have thought to perhaps see if anyone else wanted some of the special cookies, especially if I had a kid. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 16, 2012, 01:24:40 PM
well she does not know it is gone yet, i distracted her last night and this morning we left early for a play date. I may be able to get to the bakery and get some, but i really do not want to drive 45 minutes out of my to get them. I think she can just deal, but he has to explain to her. I did not overreact, right? and you know how she has the Panera box at school on Wednesdays? often i bring her home cookies or brownies or something and he will often eat them that night after we go to bed. Half the time she forgets, the other half she remembers and i have to calm her down and tell her daddy ate them  :eyeroll:  i wonder if there is a closer place that has something similar?

oh and i got on the TM, half ran/walked and have RAGING cramps. I am going to die. LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on August 16, 2012, 01:29:09 PM
I don't get why he is eating her stuff if he knows it is hers?  WTF? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 16, 2012, 01:37:12 PM
well it is not "hers" perse, and she is not going to eat a whole box of cookies, but to eat them all????????? Well, there were two little ones left in the box, but sheesh. I do not label stuff, but there should be some common sense, no? I got in a fight with him on the phone today and was like, you live with two other people, it is not a free for all, please just ask, common courtesy. He gets very defensive about everything then usually is like, oh you were right.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on August 16, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
I meant when you bring her stuff home from the Panera box and then he eats it and she cries.  Why has this happened more than once is my question.   He kind of sounds like an ass. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 16, 2012, 01:53:34 PM
Meri,

In my mind you are not wrong at all.  I think part of living with another person is making sure that you respect each other's boundaries and look out for each other.  In the kitchen, it means not eating all the food or respecting when something is a favorite food/special food for one of the people living there.  I can't imagine eating all of something that I know my DH likes.

And as a parent I think you want the best for your child.  So if there is a special food in the house for my DD, I want her to have it.  I'd never eat her cupcake, for example.  And I'd be pissed if DH did.  But frankly, DH would never do that either.  If there's a food that he knows Jessica loves, he'll enjoy getting to see her eat it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 16, 2012, 01:55:19 PM
No an ass, an only child who was never made to share anything ever with anyone. This is an ongoing issue. He has a really bad sweet tooth. You know how some of us have binges? he does too, on sweets and will eat everything sweet in the house. And sometimes i bring stuff home for both of them, he just needs to ask and i need to be more clear that it is for her and what is for him.

I think i know DD so much better and interact with her so much more (i only work PT, for example), that I know that she wanted that cookie and when i told him how she had been talking about it he got really upset. I am going to stop by a bakery MoS suggested at the Wegmans on my way into work (which i should have left for like 30 minutes ago......) and see what they have and get her something. I googled Italian bakeries and none made these cookies :( I am like an hour from this place unfortunately.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 16, 2012, 01:56:45 PM
well it is not "hers" perse, and she is not going to eat a whole box of cookies, but to eat them all????????? Well, there were two little ones left in the box, but sheesh. I do not label stuff, but there should be some common sense, no? I got in a fight with him on the phone today and was like, you live with two other people, it is not a free for all, please just ask, common courtesy. He gets very defensive about everything then usually is like, oh you were right.  :eyeroll:

You did not overreact.  His behavior does not sound like an adult or parent's behavior.  it sounds like a child's.  I only had to label the food that came into my home when I was living w/ 3 roommates in college and even then, only because one of them was an asshole.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 16, 2012, 01:58:50 PM
You did not overreact.  His behavior does not sound like an adult or parent's behavior.  it sounds like a child's.  I only had to label the food that came into my home when I was living w/ 3 roommates in college and even then, only because one of them was an asshole.
yep, feels like a bad roommate issue! LOL. i remember labeling food in the apt fridge :D He definitely has spoiled brat only child syndrome, so of course i blame my MIL for that as well :D I also think he has an uncontrollable sweet tooth sometimes and when he binges, he just looks for anything sweet and that is always DD's stuff, cause i don't buy yummies for me, LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on August 16, 2012, 02:04:24 PM
I have been known to eat dry cocoa powder with a maple syrup chaser straight from the jug when I am on a sugar binge and even I would not steal a toddlers cookies  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 16, 2012, 02:21:24 PM
I have been known to eat dry cocoa powder with a maple syrup chaser straight from the jug when I am on a sugar binge and even I would not steal a toddlers cookies  :D 

1!

No an ass, an only child who was never made to share anything ever with anyone.


Which gives him a one-time pass. Maybe. As this is an ongoing issue, it has long ago crossed, the "@ss" line. Sorry. The new rule should be that he doesn't eat any sweets he didn't bring into the house, without asking you what your plans were first.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 16, 2012, 02:22:15 PM
that's one of the most disgusting snacks I've ever heard of, onawhim.  Pretty sure I'm going to think of that food combo whenever I'm having a snack-craving moment.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 16, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
You guys don't mind if I hide my non-food related ruminations in here, do you?

I was really worried about DD transitioning from her itty bitty private school (and very sheltered suburban public schools before that) to a hard-core, urban high school. The seattle high schools are good, mind you, but they do come with all of the challenges of an urban school. I'm worried that our situation makes her more vulnerable to negative influence than she might otherwise be, you know?

But, although she could have gone to her private school one last year, I didn't think it was feasible for me either financially or logistically (about 25 miles from my new place). Well, the school has decided that having her there is mutually beneficial and has offered her a full scholarship. It also works out for her teacher to drive her to/from (she'll ride the bus down town with me and her teacher will pick her up from my building).

What. a. relief.

I think I'm going to try and apply for scholarships for her at some other local private schools. The cycle for next year starts in october. I don't know if I can make it happen for her, and I know there are probably some major downsides to sheltering her. But, I need at least an illusion of safety to keep my sanity in order right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 16, 2012, 03:02:55 PM
RA, I think it's fabulous that you're doing this for her. It's not like you keep her in a bubble at home, either, so I wouldn't worry too much. I might ask the schools how they help students with the transition to college in a few years - do they remove supports slowly, teach the kids how to advocate for themselves, etc.? Basically - is there a plan?

Meri, no, you're not overreacting. DH is being a jerk. And he needs to go get her some more cookies - SPECIFICALLY A BLUE CUPCAKE ONE - you don't need to be running all over hell's half-acre to fix his screw up.

I've spent all morning sleeping, and I'm about to go lay down again. My throat is all scratchy and hurting. :( I'd give anything for some ice cream, but I'm too worn out to go get any. I guess that's the silver lining here - the scale is down a bit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 16, 2012, 03:07:45 PM
RA tht is great about the school.


I found some fancy cookies where i picked up my lunch salad and called DH to make sure he did not also go and he is pissed at me! Ugh! I am so cranky right now, and you know what? She may have forgotten all about the cookie. No cupcake cookie but two awesome ones.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 16, 2012, 03:14:28 PM
Meri, it often sounds like you are the only adult in your family, I don't know how you do it.

And yay for the scholarship, RA!

Debba, feel better!

I feel good about bringing in leftovers for dinner-at-work today. On Thursdays when I work until 8pm it is often hard not to resort to Dairy Queen around 5:30 or so.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on August 16, 2012, 03:23:08 PM
That is great RA!  I do not want to call you out or anything that would make you uncomfortable but I am thinking of you often  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 16, 2012, 03:38:58 PM
Meri, it often sounds like you are the only adult in your family, I don't know how you do it.


yes, yes it does feel like that often  :eyeroll: my DH is 11 years older than me, but when I met him i would have sworn he was my age (he also looks young) though he has not aged much, some, but not much. I really blame my MIL :D He pretty much raised himself.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 16, 2012, 03:51:37 PM
Meri, you are a better woman than I am...  that shit would piss me off! 

I made a greek quinoa salad and brought it in to share with my boss.  It's ok, but the texture is weird.  I'm not sure I can eat more of it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 16, 2012, 04:16:20 PM
That would annoy me, Meri. :( Sorry you have to deal with that. Maybe if HIS stuff gets eaten then maybe he'll start to show a little compassion and respect for others' sweet stuff.

Courtney.. what's in your greek quinoa salad? What did you not like about the texture?  Maybe you just need to tweak the recipe.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 16, 2012, 07:58:20 PM
DD fell for the cookie swap, whew.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on August 16, 2012, 09:10:12 PM
Gah. I am so far off track I can hardly stand it.  I am slowly gaining gaining gaining. I lost my early to rise mojo to go to the gym and I am just kind of stagnating.

Kick my ass please. 

Please!?
I need some tough love.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 16, 2012, 09:50:44 PM
I'm in the same boat, Mouse. I'll have to see how I feel after the weekend - hopefully I can get some rest - and then just do my best to get back on track on Monday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 16, 2012, 10:08:09 PM
DD fell for the cookie swap, whew.

 :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 16, 2012, 10:45:19 PM
I think the summer heat is beating all of us. 
Mouse, maybe just get out and do something you really enjoy this weekend. How's the SUP going?  That has to count for something.
Debba, once you get over this crud just try at least to get in some walks.  It would probably help you feel better if you take it slow.  A hot epsom salt bath would do wonders I bet.
Meri, Glad she was OK with the swap.  Hopefully it won't happen again.


I had to force myself to exercise today instead of nap.  Actually, I did nap after my push ups and a tough trail run...really, only 1.75 miles but it was at 2:30pm and stupidly hot.  The kids, DH and I also did a trail walk this morning...45 minutes. 

Thank FSM the kids napped today.  It's been almost a full week of no naps. 

I managed my exercise goal, wine drinking goal, and water drinking goal.  Dinner was pathetic though.  I'll probably get the bed time goal, too....at least before midnight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on August 17, 2012, 06:11:07 AM
MG, I am not a parent, but if this happens regularly, have you thought of:

1.  making portion bags/tupperware of entire cookie boxes?
2.  setting aside/hiding the portions your daughter was promised?

and letting everybody in the family know?

I do not think that bitching about it will help, and coming up with a solution is a more constructive way of approaching the problem and avoiding it in the future.  Maybe your daughter could help you make the portions.

I doubt anyone willfully eats an entire box of cookies.  Making the container smaller may "help" DH control the size of his portion, too.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 17, 2012, 07:07:38 AM
Yes, I need to separate things that are special to her, I thought this was self explanatory. And I know many people here struggle with binges and can understand his actions and since he is so skinny, he does not think there is anything wrong with the binges. It's been discussed and I hope it does not happen again.

And i ate no bread yesterday, whew. I was eating it like it was going out of style!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on August 17, 2012, 08:03:31 AM
you don't need to be running all over hell's half-acre to fix his screw up.

Meri, and I say this with love, you are turning into your MIL.

You are absolutely filling the role his mother did by doing everything, fixing everything, etc. Stop it!



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 17, 2012, 08:10:14 AM
Meri, and I say this with love, you are turning into your MIL.

You are absolutely filling the role his mother did by doing everything, fixing everything, etc. Stop it!
well, i stopped picking up after him, no longer do his laundry (except maybe towels), stopped paying most of his bills, won't make appts for him, no longer cook for him or prepare him lunch, no longer make his coffee, won't run errands for him unless it is somewhere i am going anyways, etc. So I feel like I have made some progress! however, the cookie was more about DD's anticipated heartbreak than cleaning up his errors.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on August 17, 2012, 08:12:05 AM
well, i stopped picking up after him, no longer do his laundry (except maybe towels), stopped paying most of his bills, won't make appts for him, no longer cook for him or prepare him lunch, no longer make his coffee, won't run errands for him unless it is somewhere i am going anyways, etc. So I feel like I have made some progress! however, the cookie was more about DD's anticipated heartbreak than cleaning up his errors.

That sounds like good progress! And I understand wanting to protect your DD.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 17, 2012, 08:16:01 AM
That sounds like good progress! And I understand wanting to protect your DD.
yeah i have pretty much stopped doing most things for him once DD was born, though i think the laundry was before that, LOL. DH pretty much raised himself, latchkey kid from kindergarten on. Not sure how he survived, I think it took hm 6 years to finish highschool because he just did not go and his mom did not care if he went, etc. (obviously in this day and age, that would be illegal and she would be held accountable!) I am often shocked he made it this far in life ;) I only wonder how far he would have made it if had a parent who truly cared for his well being and success.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 17, 2012, 09:31:18 AM
Gah. I am so far off track I can hardly stand it.  I am slowly gaining gaining gaining. I lost my early to rise mojo to go to the gym and I am just kind of stagnating.

Kick my ass please. 

Please!?
I need some tough love.

Maybe focus on eating for a bit? Food is a huge piece of the equation for me! Start a new program you're excited about? Maybe where you are at is ok for now and take a ,break. Progress doesn't have to be linear.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 17, 2012, 09:51:57 AM
I'm back at work - probably about 75% back to normal, but if I stayed home today, I'd have had to go back to the doctor to get a goddamned note because I'd have been out 3 days in a row.  :eyeroll: I'm hoping to get some rest this weekend and see how I feel about exercising on Monday. Right now, I'm vaguely regretting the coffee and mini-bagel I had for breakfast. It was one of those situations where nothing sounded good, but not eating/getting coffee would have been even worse, since I couldn't just go back to sleep. Ugh. If I could get rid of the massive knot in my shoulder, that would help, too. I slept on that side too much yesterday. Oops.

I do not recommend this virus, even though I dropped a few pounds because of it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 17, 2012, 10:29:42 AM
feel better soon Debba!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 17, 2012, 10:40:21 AM
Thanks, meri! I suppose it could have been worse - this class of viruses (assuming I'm guessing right about what I had) is the same group that polio is in, so really, it could have been worse.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 17, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
yes, polio would be worse :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 17, 2012, 10:54:52 AM
Yes, yes it would! I'll take a day of fever, a few days of body aches, and possibly a bit longer with the fatigue over polio any day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 17, 2012, 12:32:19 PM
I just ate my lunch and want more.  :-\ gotta force myself to run before picking DD up, leave work in an hour.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 17, 2012, 12:42:26 PM
You can have some of mine, meri.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 17, 2012, 12:43:11 PM
You can have some of mine, meri.
is it more tofu pad thai?  :P
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 17, 2012, 12:46:58 PM
No, sorry. It's a PB&J, veggies and hummus, and probably an apple. I have yogurt, almonds, and string cheese, too, as snacks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 17, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
Today is our work summer BBQ. I did all the planning and bought all the supplies but it still isnt really healthy. Hamburgers, sausages (which my dumb ass left sitting out last night so I had to steal our personal ones from the freezer), and garden burgers. I did buy a bunch of veggies to grill though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 17, 2012, 01:17:40 PM
ditch the bread and cole slaw and it won't be too terrible.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 17, 2012, 02:52:43 PM
We just loaded 160 lbs of organic, grass-fed beef into the freezers.   :e)   It is my birthday gift from Dad.   :hah:  I guess we'll be having some type of beef for dinner tonight.

I've finished up my online training for now and started my wine drinking goal.  It's going well...one glass gets me hammered.   :preen:  My arms are freaking sore from push ups yesterday.  I'm also due to start my period today but no signs yet.  My luck it will happen tomorrow while at work.  Blah.    We did a short trail walk with the kids this morning, David absolutely LOVES running as fast as he can down the trails....so freaking cute.  Rachel will run too but she likes holding our hands.

I think they are back into the nap routine again.  Woohoo!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 17, 2012, 03:09:50 PM
LOL, I love it - "Dear Dad, thanks for the side of beef for my bday. Love, Bolloxd"

That would be kind of awesome, except that I don't have room for it in my freezer.

SO glad they're back into the nap routine!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 17, 2012, 04:56:03 PM
160 lb? Wow!

My brain is fried. And it's Restaurant Week, woot! So DH and I will be going out for dinner at the local restaurant tonight. Gotta support the local economy, you know... :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 17, 2012, 05:36:14 PM
took DD and the neighbor kid for TCBY and then we did a nature hike and i carried DD for like a mile, after my run! LOL
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 17, 2012, 08:25:45 PM
ditch the bread and cole slaw and it won't be too terrible.

I had a chicken sausage with bun and a bunch of BBQed veggies so not too bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 18, 2012, 12:02:14 AM
Ice cream for the third time this week (strawberry mochi today).  :D And peanut butter pretzles. and pasta for lunch. I am now thoroughly paying for it.  :whoa:

We had a nice time at the beach today though and tomorrow we are river floating with some friends.

We've been staying with my dad this week. They haven't been here much because they've been up at his wife's family's beach house most of the time. He stopped by tonight and he started asking me a bunch of questions. I think he's kind of mad at me because I immediately shut him down. Like everyone else, I've told him I'm not talking about the details. He says he's my dad and so I have to talk to him about it. I told him I'm serious, I'm not talking about it and I'm not going to argue about not talking about it.  :fiery: To which he tells me I should call my counselor and talk to her about it. No, really, I don't want to talk about it. Leave me alone.

So, maybe it's good that tomorrow we move into vacation rental #1. Looks like I don't have to go to OH afterall (sorry MM).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 18, 2012, 07:39:01 AM
Wait, what? He's your dad so you *have* to talk to him about it? Does he think you're 12? If you don't want to talk about it, you don't want to talk about it.

I think it's a good thing you're getting into the vacation rental, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 18, 2012, 08:15:08 AM
Wait, what? He's your dad so you *have* to talk to him about it? Does he think you're 12? If you don't want to talk about it, you don't want to talk about it.

I think it's a good thing you're getting into the vacation rental, too.

I'm with debba here. You can talk to whomever whenever you're ready to do so, which may be never. Hello!

And  :hug: to you, just 'cause.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on August 19, 2012, 02:45:33 AM
RA -  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on August 19, 2012, 05:54:46 PM
It's none of his damn business!!!

Don't let him bully you into spilling details about your personal life. That's not right. He should respect that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 19, 2012, 09:07:31 PM
i tried to find a DQ on my way home from race and failed :( i wanted a cake blizzard!  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 19, 2012, 09:40:26 PM
RA  :hug:

Meri, I've never eaten at DQ but I'm sure I'd like a cake blizzard too!


I've been super lazy today and didn't run.  Spent the time surfing and playing games.  Oops.  I've finally started to get cramps for AF.  I'm relieved because I have been on edge the last few days...and I did jinx myself from an earlier post about being on time.  Hope to do better tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 19, 2012, 11:20:57 PM
Oh yeah, something I forgot to mention earlier.   Not sure if it is just me that does it or not, but every now & then I'll find a hair of mine down my shirt/bra that kinda tickles until I get it out.  Well I had the same thing happen today but the tickle didn't stop...turns out that tickle was a freaking TICK.  Crawling on my boobs.   :e)  I'm also covered in mosquito bites...I'm ready for winter.

I'm now sitting on the sofa with some wonderful painkillers making me feel happy.  Woohoo. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 20, 2012, 08:06:52 AM
ack! i have pulled a bunch of ticks off DD this year, better crawling than embedded, but still mega ick!!

taking DD to the amusement park today. active recovery, right? LOL
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 20, 2012, 12:24:23 PM
I am SO DONE with feeling like shit. This is ridiculous. Now my allergies are acting up, I'm sure because I was sick last week. I just want to sleeeeeeeeep.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on August 20, 2012, 12:30:49 PM
RA - Not saying to do it right this minute, because I know you are still working logistical issues and trying to enjoy the last of summer, but...your Dad is probably right on one thing - at some point, it probably IS a good idea to talk about it and a counselor is a good idea.  (Plus, if it will make your Dad feel better that you've talked to SOMEBODY, even if it isn't him, that's kind of a bonus.  He's your Dad.  He worries about you.  That's what they do.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 20, 2012, 12:50:40 PM
I probably will. At some point. But not yet.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on August 20, 2012, 01:14:09 PM
RA -  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 20, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
More  :hug: for you.

Bolloxd, I HATE ticks.  Despise them.  Yuck.  I've pulled several off of all of us this summer and dozens off Eddie.  Thank goodness it's not as bad as the springtime; was like a plague.

meri, you rock. period. exclamation mark!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 20, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
Meri, hope you have fun at the amusement park.
Deb, hang in there!

I've spent the day either in the bathroom, in bed napping, or on the couch waiting on pain pills to work.  Stupid endometriosis.

Oh and I totally missed my bed time goal last night, for some reason we stayed up till 1:30 watching an Amelia Earhart documentary.

Kids are not napping today it seems.  I need another reset day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on August 20, 2012, 02:58:54 PM
I've been good for a whole 16 hours.  Have I lost 20 pounds yet? 

I've been overeating for most of August.  I haven't put on weight, but I haven't lost either, and I haven't been working out enough either. 

DH is away this week, so I'm using this as a chance to change up my habits - put the "daily" back into daily workouts, eat right, cut out sugar entirely.  By the time he gets back on Saturday, I'll be back in the groove and able to pass on the donuts. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 20, 2012, 04:17:31 PM
I'm going to bed by 9:30 tonight, even if DH is still awake. I have a training session scheduled for tomorrow night. I'm contemplating just going for a walk with the dog in the morning so I have something left for training tomorrow night. But the stupid part of me is yelling that "it's not enough" and one walk is stupid if I can't run 5 miles.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 20, 2012, 04:49:27 PM
RA-- aren't we your virtual counselors? :D Tell him you see Dr Yammerers.

Amusement park was fun. Once again, no DQ. I did have  scoop of ice cream, but only because there was a B1G1 coupon when i signed us up for 2012/13 memberships. DD is passed out. Already woke her once and she passed right back out. It is almost 5pm  :e)

Please for the love of FSM, cross your fingers and everything else that we can close on our refi. This has been a long, drawn out, ridiculous process, held up for MONTHS over stupid shit (like disputes over how much $ is in our escrow account, etc). I am starting to lose hope and DH already has. We never catch a break. My credit score is almost 800!!! WTF????
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 20, 2012, 04:55:40 PM
oh and i have to add, after yesterday's race, I am not sure i am cut out to be competitive. I went with the goal to place, maybe win, which is really rare for me. Only once have i ever gone into a race thinking i would place (and i got 4th  :-[ ). Well, anywho, I was just not being nice in my head about the other gals there. The 2nd place girl was sooooo nice and friendly, but in my head i kept trying to will her to stop running, LOL. I will say it made me run hard, which i do not do very often, but I'd rather just go to a race and enjoy myself and all the people and only be 100% positive. The 2nd place girl had said she was only going to run until she hit 26 miles, then i joked that she shoudl run 1 more to get an ultra, so she did, and KEPT RUNNING, i was like, wtf? then she passed 50K and i was like, well, she'll stop now. She kept saying she was going to stop soon, but this went on for HOURS. I was like, is she trying to get ME to stop and psyche me out? She stopped at 40 and i went to 42 and there was an hour left and i was going to go to 45, but everyone else was stopping (only 3 people left on the course, it was a 12 hour race) and i was just happy to know she was not going to go back out and run 3 more miles after i stopped :D i waited for her to pack her stuff up. :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 20, 2012, 05:02:50 PM
In other news... I think I'm ready to start excercising again. DD and I went on a long walk last night. Maybe we'll do that again tonight. I'd like to start running but I ended up not updating the music on my phone last night so I don't have anything to run to... and I am definitely not one ofthose people that can run without music!

RA-- aren't we your virtual counselors? :D Tell him you see Dr Yammerers.

 :!:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Coyzmum on August 21, 2012, 10:01:48 AM
It's been a while since I checked in, but I need to get back to eating better too.  I'm not doing horrible, but it will add up if I don't get it back in check.  I think it's just having a beer every night or eating larger portions than I had been eating.  Either way, I need to do something.

RA - that is so great about your DDs school.
Meri - Good luck on the refinancing.

Everyone is so inspiring to me, even when you struggle, it means I'm not alone and we all face lows and highs with our goals.  I think now that summer is over, I feel like I can be more lax, but that is NOT the case.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 21, 2012, 10:05:43 AM
Gah. The freaking smoke alarm went off at midnight last night. I can't believe it didn't wake Reid up, but it took us 30 minutes to look at it, verify that it doesn't actually have freakin' battteries, put it back together, and go back to bed.

I'm exhausted.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 21, 2012, 11:29:55 AM
I hate that, Debba.  Doesn't it know that it's supposed to wait for the Daylight Savings change to run out of batteries?


Day One of Austerity Measures Revisited is done.  Day Two in progress.  I had a bit of toast with cheese and a half pint of blueberries.  Still very hungry...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 21, 2012, 11:54:55 AM
Oh, the best part? The goddamn thing doesn't *have* batteries. It's wired into the house somehow. WTF???

Needless to say, my plan to drag out of bed and walk didn't happen. Hmph.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 21, 2012, 01:38:18 PM
Okay, I'm contemplating some changes. Not dropping running altogether, necessarily, but I'm frustrated by my lack of progress (my own fault, I know). I'm thinking about doing videos for a while. I should be able to do them on the back porch, even. If any of my neighbors decide to spy on me at 5 AM, well... that's their problem, and they will be filled with regret.

I have TaeBo (and love it, honestly), and an Ashtanga yoga video.

Any other suggestions? How do people feel about Jillian and the whole 30-day Shred thing?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 21, 2012, 01:42:22 PM
I was going to say Jillians shred, it is HARD!

so the refi is not looking good for closing tomorrow :( we need this document by 3pm and the people we need it from will never ever expedite anything and anytime you call or they need something from you, your form goes to the back of the line. Sigh. I may actually vomit i am so upset from all of this. It is such a ridiculous process and in the end, we are going to get screwed. I feel like we always get screwed. This refi would make the difference between almost making ends meet and actually making them meet most months $600/month! ARGH!!!! I think this company we are dealing with is violating HARP and I do need to do some research because HARP was set in place by Obama to make refinancing easier, but this is just absurd.  :incazzato:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 21, 2012, 02:08:25 PM
Oh, meri, that sucks about the refi. I hope it works out!!!

And yeah, I've heard good stuff about Jillian's Shred, but I'm already hitting the gym with the trainer 2x per week, so I don't want to hurt myself. That's my only hesitation.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on August 21, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
Meri- the refi merry-go-round is insane.  They always want one more document, and when you point out you've given it to them it turns out they lost it.

Debba, have you considered cutting out sugar?  I find that works when nothing else will get numbers moving on the scale.  This week I've gotten absolutely draconian about sugar and grains. 

I did a whole hour of Zumba last night for the first time since the accident.  I was a little sore this morning, but nothing Aleve can't handle. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 21, 2012, 02:27:41 PM
Mini, that's a good idea, too, but I've been an absolute slug when it comes to exercise lately, so I think that's my first step. If that doesn't work, then yes, more dietary tweaks will be needed.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 21, 2012, 03:13:17 PM
Oh Meri, I'm so sorry about the refi. It shouldn't be that hard. We did one a few weeks ago, and it was super-easy. But we have had the same mortgage broker for 15 years or so, that probably helps.

I gained a pound this week. Oh well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 21, 2012, 03:29:40 PM
we have a complicated mortgage situation from when we bought our house (can we say slightly shady mortgage practices?) and if i only knew then what i know now..... but we did not know and trusted everyone. Anywho, it just lends to a lot more paperwork and this one company has been a thorn in our side. Good news, kinda, is that we don't have to get the paper by today at 3 (which has passed) but if we get it tomorrow, we should be good to close on Thurs or Friday and be ok. It has just been a real frustrating situation for all involved and I am looking forward to it hopefully coming to an end with a refi and i will buy those mortgage brokers something awesome, like a fruit bouquet, LOL! They have worked so hard for us for so many months.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 21, 2012, 03:46:46 PM
 :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 21, 2012, 03:54:19 PM
and one more  :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 21, 2012, 04:22:28 PM
thanks! this just makes me  :argh: . You should have heard me on the phone with this company who needs to get us this one form, omg, it was a riot, the gentleman i spoke to did not appreciate my humor though  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 21, 2012, 08:23:01 PM
 :hug: meri.  I'm sure it's maddening.


Have I mentioned how much we love this soup?

(http://www.imaginefoods.com/sites/www.imaginefoods.com/files/hcgproducts/broccoli_soup.jpg?1321300892)

we eat it w/ a touch of sea salt and some shredded cheddar melted on top

My DD LOVES it.  She'll eat it every night.  And me too.  It makes austerity measures so much easier. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on August 22, 2012, 06:40:44 AM
I want to try that soup...

My refinancing was super easy.  Good luck.  When you are finished, check at the registry of deeds that a discharge was filed for you.  It can be a problem if there isn't one, and it's often forgotten.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on August 22, 2012, 01:02:22 PM
Day 3 of no sugar, no grain and daily 1-hour zumba workouts.  I've gotten back into doing pushups/pullups, and it hurts like a mofo.  But I am certain that if I stick with it, I'll be at my goal weight before Christmas. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 22, 2012, 01:06:32 PM
Mini, did you buy the full zumba set? I'm super-curious about it.

For anyone who has done 30 day shred - do you have to have weights to do it? If so, how heavy? Despite my fat, I'm reasonably strong thanks to the training sessions and a 30-lb toddler.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 22, 2012, 01:19:17 PM
Debba, you do need some handweights for it.  I think I used 5 lbs when I did it.  I thought that would be too light, but when I tried 8 lbs it was too much.  But that was before any weight lifting, so you'd probably be ok with 8-10 lbs.  You do a lot of reps, if I remember right.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 22, 2012, 01:26:31 PM
i think you could do no weights or soup cans. I have 2, 5, 8 and 10 lbs weights at home, but it was a while.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on August 22, 2012, 01:30:32 PM
You do need some sort of weights.  I think I did it with 3lbs  :-[  I have an extra copy of the DVD I can send to you if you want it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 22, 2012, 01:34:59 PM
Thanks - I may see if my mom has any 8s or 10s laying around. My trainer has me do a ton of reps (100+ isn't unheard of) with at least a 20-pound bar most of the time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 22, 2012, 02:23:41 PM
You do need some sort of weights.  I think I did it with 3lbs  :-[  I have an extra copy of the DVD I can send to you if you want it.
i am pretty sure i did it with no weights after half way thru the video :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 22, 2012, 02:25:58 PM
LOL! Maybe 5s, then.... :D

And I think I can get it cheap of Amazon, so I might go that route. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 22, 2012, 02:38:13 PM
i am pretty sure i did it with no weights after half way thru the video :D

The first time I did it with my 8 lb weights, this very much happened to me as well.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 22, 2012, 02:52:25 PM
LOL. So, did it work? Did you get results?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on August 22, 2012, 05:04:56 PM
LOL. So, did it work? Did you get results?

I've only done it hit or miss, so I can't really say.  Much harder than I was expecting, tho!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 22, 2012, 05:08:58 PM
Good to know. It's like $6. I can swing it. Can't hurt, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 22, 2012, 05:11:46 PM
I'll be expecting a full report Debba!
Meri, sorry you're having so much trouble with the refi. 

I've had one of those days where nothing spectacular has happened but it has been very enjoyable.  A morning coffee with a shot of chocolate liquor sure makes ya feel good in the morning.  DH went into town for a massage, yes on MY birthday, and while that annoyed me to start it was actually fine because I really got to enjoy playing with the kids.  We had a good tickle/wrestling match and then a 1/2 hour trail walk.

My mom came over and we had caramel cake w/ chocolate frosting....Mmmm.  The kids took a nap, so I got to do some web surfing...then I took a nap AND I got in a 3 mile run.  Pretty perfect really.  Steaks, baked potato & salad for dinner tonight.


 :azn:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 22, 2012, 05:15:14 PM
Sounds like an excellent birthday, Bolloxd! :) Happy.... 21st?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 22, 2012, 06:19:49 PM
mmmm cake, happy birthday!

i did the video only a few times, LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 22, 2012, 06:43:50 PM
Sounds like an excellent birthday, Bolloxd! :) Happy.... 21st?

 :preen:

Thanks y'all!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 22, 2012, 09:03:05 PM
Okay, bought it, and it came with a free download to my Amazon video player. :yikes:

Now I just have to figure out how to rework my workout plans to include this.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on August 23, 2012, 01:30:32 PM
Mini, did you buy the full zumba set? I'm super-curious about it.

For anyone who has done 30 day shred - do you have to have weights to do it? If so, how heavy? Despite my fat, I'm reasonably strong thanks to the training sessions and a 30-lb toddler.

No, not a set, just a Wii game.  It comes with a belt to hold your wii controller. 

I'm suffering from "are we there yet?"  I keep reminding myself that at a reasonable trendline of 5 pounds per month, I should be at my goal by Christmas.  But isn't it Christmas yet?

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 23, 2012, 01:40:10 PM
Ohhhhhh. Dang, I don't have a game console. Oh well!

OMG. At 5 pounds a month.... I don't even want to talk about when I'd be at goal.  :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 23, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
so this third party fucked us with the refi again :( i just called and the form we need has been approved but needs a signature and there are "500 people waiting for a signature, we're not going to sift thru them and find yours" so we are fucked. Mortgage guy is going to try to work something out with the same bank, so once we get this paper (mon or tues i was told), it won't need to be revised, because every time this paper needs to be revised, that takes this company about 14-20 days because they are beyond asinine in their processes. and i spent all my running time on the phone so no run for me, just a big ol mess of angry  :incazzato:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 23, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
Good Lord Almighty Meri, that is insane!

I hate feeling powerless like that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 23, 2012, 02:26:26 PM
Good Lord Almighty Meri, that is insane!

I hate feeling powerless like that.
and this is the Cliff Notes version. Seriously. When this is all said and done i am going to seek legal advice because i am pretty sure they are violating HARP. I googled them and holy shit the stuff i found about this company. They are shady beyond shady and assholes for the sole purpose of being an asshole. Really odd and really sad. The attitudes they give are just ridiculous. Sigh. Life goes on :( I was hoping to finally celebrate a refi this weekend. Our mortgage guy said luckily the market is in our favor, but they just won't extend our rate lock for a few more days, it has been extended twice for 2 weeks each time. ARGH.  :argh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 23, 2012, 02:33:07 PM
Holy fuck, meri. That's beyond ridiculous.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 23, 2012, 02:33:58 PM
yeah i know. now i feel like i am going to throw up. it just gets me so upset. ridiculous. just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 23, 2012, 03:09:39 PM
Aw man that does suck.  Maybe a run would help you feel a little better if you can squeeze one in.


I've been doing online birthday shopping today, lunch with LM - my 1st time eating sushi, and now perhaps a nap.  I start *real* work tomorrow.   :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 23, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
sounds like a good bday for you :)

no run, just now sitting at my desk, 3:23pm, eating lunch :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 23, 2012, 04:16:25 PM
Aw man, meri, sorry to hear that.  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 23, 2012, 06:45:21 PM
 :fingers: that they can get a reloc from the bank and the paperwork we will eventually receive will be sufficient. UGH.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 23, 2012, 08:43:35 PM
 :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: meri
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 23, 2012, 08:57:51 PM
I did about a million stairs today. Yesterday too. Didn't eat enough yesterday and thoroughly regretted it. Big bowl of soup, a roll, and a tiny crustless quiche for lunch. Now having 2 eggs with cheese. Hoping some exercise will help me start eating again.

strenuous exercise definitely is helping my state of mind. I called two counselors today. Not sure I'm ready yet. We'll see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 24, 2012, 07:46:34 AM
RA-- exercise is the cheapest form of psychotherapy for sure. I read about those stairs in your other post, awesome!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 24, 2012, 12:36:33 PM
Okay, I'm trying to re-work my plan so I can get 30DS in there a few days a week. I go to the gym on T/Th nights, so I'm guessing that means T/W/TH are out for 30 DS?

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 24, 2012, 03:04:34 PM
I am ready to kill my boss. If you want me to be lab manager let me manage the fucking lab.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 24, 2012, 06:44:17 PM
After two days of stairs in a row, I can hardly walk today! Thinking about a hike sunday- we'll see if I can walk by then. My calves are like rocks!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 24, 2012, 09:07:39 PM
I know what you mean!  I've been hiking to the very top of our mountain every day to check on the loggers.  Every day.  It's 200 feet of elevation gain in .4 miles.  And that's in addition to the rest of the elevation change we have in our mountain which is no small thing.  My lower back is aching tonight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 24, 2012, 09:25:16 PM
I'm impressed with both of you - that would kill me. Or make me wish for death or something.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 25, 2012, 09:18:22 PM
Today we walked and walked and walked. Back to our temporary apartment for a bit and now headed out to dinner with friends followed by a trip to the glass museum and a ride on the great wheel (seattle has a new giant ferris wheel).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 26, 2012, 08:04:14 AM
that ferris wheel pic made me  :panic: lol

went out for date night last night, had indian food, it was just ok. but the froyo after was great :D I only had a few bites of naan, it was not very good :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 26, 2012, 08:38:16 AM
OMG. Book club last night - we made it a sleepover at my parents' house.

So.
Much.
Wine.

:luvcoffee:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on August 26, 2012, 10:31:50 AM
Hooooo boy. Hope all you guys are doing well - got to go back and read through.

Back from my Chicago biz trip and vacation #2. That was rough, but I held my own with no gain. Wowzers. I am kind of suprised, because I really had some challenges - a dinner at Buca di Beppo (pasta aplenty, red wine aplenty, everything covered in cheese), dinner with Oache (lovely beers and suckling pig, and dessert!), and then a week of noshing up in Maine with friends (cocktails/beers, ice cream, hot dogs, ice cream, crab rolls, ice cream, chowda, and did I mention ice cream?). It seems like the thing that helps is that I do eat well but only at meals and not a lot of crap in between, and I keep up with exercising.

So after today I get back onto a routine. I'll need to grocery shop to set the stage for a week of good eating. The school-year challenge is to pack decent lunches on days when I'm in the car all day, so I need to think about options for that. When I was in Chicago I was chatting with some colleagues who are also trying WW and/or healthier eating, and after hearing everyone's ideas, I think I need to order a set of bento boxes for packing lunches. There were some good ideas being thrown around for things to pack that way, so I want to give it a try.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 26, 2012, 11:32:04 AM
bento boxes-- so many options, i just bring a bag of tupperware with me to work  :eyeroll:

this week i am planning on making my zucchini eggplant casserole again and a mexican pasta casserole. Should do me for the week. we have a bday party to go to soon, oh well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on August 26, 2012, 11:56:12 AM
Wow, I have been catching up on everyone's posts...lots of stuff going on.

Meri, your refi sounds like hell. I can imagine your frustration and anger over what should be a fairly straight forward process.  So so lame. 

Cgraz, welcome back from what sounds like a great holiday.  Suckling pig? Yum.

Deb, a few years ago my DH and I started 30ds after being on an exercise hiatus. We did it pretty solidly for a month and I did see results.  We have several of her DVDs....I think they are pretty solid well rounded circuits.

Ra... :hug:

Mini, how are you doing on the no sugar no grains?  How is your soreness level after doing Zumba?

Bollxd, your birthday sounded perfect.  I think you should get a massage on your dh's birthday! Make it a tradition.

I *think* I am getting my mojo back.  I finally dragged myself into the gym after work Thursday, and did a tidy little circuit that I learned from my trainer.  It only takes 30 minutes but it is hardcore. Dead lifts, squats, uprigh rows with the 45lb bar ( 5 sets of 10 ), then 2 sets of 10 pushups, and 20 lunges holding a 25lb plate over my head.  Then 2 sets of 1 minute jump rope, and 20 kettle bell swings. Then ab work on the boss ball. I warm up and cool down on the rowing machine. 
My legs and ass were killing me all day yesterday. I managed to go swim for 30 minutes, and zi think that helped with the doms.  DH wants me to go run at clam beach with the dogs this am...and I think I can handle it.

Eating is getting reined in also...I am cutting out bread entirely, my digestion doesn't really lime it anyway), and focusing on portions.  I am not even worrying about my weight...I just want to establish my routine again...so right now that is my goal. 

I feel better these last few days ( despite not being able to walk) than I have in weeks.

Oh, last weekend wee went camping up in Oregon, Lake of the Woods...in search of sun and warm water.  We took the dogs and paddle boards and had a blast.  Hank and Dewey are so funny on those boards.  Dewey walks right on as if he owns it. Hank only does it to appease us, but once we go out he seems pretty happy.

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/Laurlita/DC737902-5E7C-44F4-BCCA-7E8FE2DEEE6B-3236-00000A8FE78FD5AB.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 26, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
We used to camp at lake of the woods when I was a kid!

I am sore from gardening ... how sad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 26, 2012, 12:02:56 PM
Hi Mouse :) I need to give up bread :D The Panera box gets me EVERY WEEK. I think bread and butter is my #1 favorite food, well maybe ice cream. Well maybe bday cake. Argh! LOL

MM-- i would be sore from gardening, muscles i never use.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on August 26, 2012, 12:05:31 PM
We used to camp at lake of the woods when I was a kid!

I am sore from gardening ... how sad.
It was a pretty nice little lake.
I am usually sore after gardening...all that standing, squatting, lifting, digging is hard work! Your yard is looking awesome, by the way.  Did you plant any herds for cooking in your beds?  Thyme and rosemary are really pretty when they flower, and they look nice year round.  DH planted it all over our place to assure a never ending supply. Also, oregano is pretty, but best left in containers!


Lol...herbs! Not herds!  Damn auto correct.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 26, 2012, 12:08:06 PM
It was a pretty nice little lake.
I am usually sore after gardening...all that standing, squatting, lifting, digging is hard work! Your yard is looking awesome, by the way.  Did you plant any herds for cooking in your beds?  Thyme and rosemary are really pretty when they flower, and they look nice year round.  DH planted it all over our place to assure a never ending supply. Also, oregano is pretty, but best left in containers!

I have rosemary in the front bed and basil in my veggie garden. The veggie garden area needs to be redone completely when my summer veggies are done.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on August 26, 2012, 12:25:28 PM
Bread is such a temptation! In Maine, I could not resist the tasty New England-style hot dog buns - grilled with butter, too! The friends we vacationed with have been doing the paleo thing and I think the no-bread thing is one reason I am not so sure about trying that. I love me some carbs. As a final sayonara to my vacation-style eating, I had a bagel with cream cheese this morning. It was heavenly.

Meri, what's the latest update on the refi? That sounds like a nightmare. Hope it all works out soon.

RA, hope all is ok with you.

Mouse, way to go at the gym! Sounds like a crossfit workout - tough stuff!


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Post by: merigayle on August 26, 2012, 12:36:29 PM
the update is that we hope to get this form from the company Mon or Tues to the mortgage broker. They are going to try to get a new rate loc with the same bank we just tried three times with and hope that since it is the same company, the form will not need any revisions, because that is the problem, any revisions leads to about 30-60 days of fighting with them about stupid shit (how much $ is in our escrow, etc), so if this form is good to go and the rate loc looks consistent with this stupid legal form, then we should be able to move forward with closing on the refi. I should know more Mon or Tues (whenever they get this paper via fedex since stupid asshole company won't fax it). My mortgage brokers tell me no other company they work with is like this one, they are particularly bad.
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Post by: cgraz on August 26, 2012, 12:53:38 PM
 :fingers: it works!
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Post by: rocketgirl on August 26, 2012, 01:39:56 PM
I pretty much had bread, cheese, and dips for dinner last night.  I didn't eat enough.  I almost got back up after I went to bed to find something else to eat.  I ran late morning and had a giant glass of water, a yogurt, and a cookie.   I need to find something really salty eat for lunch now.  I lost enough salt running today that my skin felt sandy.  I'm really craving a V8, but don't have any.  I think maybe scrambled  eggs and bacon will be a good lunch for what I need right now.   I'll have to involve some vegetables at supper.
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Post by: merigayle on August 26, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
pigged out at the party  :eyeroll: i could not stop eating mini philly soft pretzels, wtf?
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on August 26, 2012, 04:38:01 PM
We often eat scrambled eggs with cheese and bacon for lunch after running. It is my favorite!

We went for our run at clam beach.  The boys had a great time, and actually so did we. It was about an hour up and back with "intervals" where would walk for 10 paces and then run as fast as we could for 3o paces, and then repeat.  We were exhausted.  It was fun though....DH is almost a foot taller than me, but I am super quick for the short bursts. He was pretty surprised when I stayed with him, or beat him! 
:lambie:

Merigayle, there is no way I could have resisted the pretzels either!

We had caprese salad and tuna salad for lunch.  Both dogs are sleeping in a sunbeam outside, and I think that seems like a fine idea.
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Post by: merigayle on August 26, 2012, 04:45:25 PM
DH just asked me what i was going to have for dinner  :whoa: not sure i can eat more food today! LOL
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Post by: debbatx on August 26, 2012, 05:22:08 PM
DH and I are having book club leftovers for dinner. No more wine for me for a few days, though.  :nono:
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on August 26, 2012, 07:47:02 PM
DH and I are having book club leftovers for dinner. No more wine for me for a few days, though.  :nono:

What did you have for book club?  Is book club co-ed?
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Post by: debbatx on August 26, 2012, 08:01:22 PM
Book club is girls' only. We did an overnight at my parents' house last night and went through an awful lot of wine. As for what we ate, though... the leftovers tonight were pork tenderloin, chips and guacamole, and a pasta salad. We had more yesterday, I just brought the leftovers home since my parents wouldn't eat them.
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Post by: cgraz on August 26, 2012, 08:10:29 PM
That's a helluva book club menu! I remember when I was in a book club, the people in charge felt food was a distraction from the discussion. I didn't last long in book club.  :P
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Post by: debbatx on August 26, 2012, 09:14:02 PM
As DH puts it, we're really a wine club with a book problem. Last night there were 5 of us (usually 6, but one couldn't make it) and we went through NINE bottles of wine.  :nono:
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Post by: diablita on August 26, 2012, 09:40:15 PM
oh my goodness, debba!  I would be kicked out of your book club for not being able to hold my weight.

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Post by: Run Amok on August 26, 2012, 09:54:41 PM
I am such a lightweight anymore,I would have been puking sick the next day!

Today was hard. Not for any reason. It just was. DD and I got in a huge dramatic fight this morning.  :-[ But then we had a long talk, went kayaking with a friend and were supposed to meet up with another friend for a walk. Friend 2 bailed so dd and I went for our own walk. Probably 3 miles or so. It helped... but I'm just feeling blue today. I wish it were bed time.
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Post by: Bolloxd on August 26, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
I need to join a book wine club!  Although I'm a cheap date...only 1 glass is enough for me.

Meri, good luck with the refi.  I'm a huge carb person.  I would never survive without bread.
Mouse, sounds like a good run and a tough gym workout.  Good job!
cgraz, nice work keeping the damage limited while out of the normal routine.  That's tough.
RA, I hope you're able to get into bed early.   :hug:
MM, gardening really is a good workout, and satisfying once it's done.

Well, Friday was my last day of training.  Wow my legs/back hurt so much from standing for so long.  I'm sure to get used to it, but ouch.  I think I'll be OK doing retail but there is such a learning curve with the regulations of ins/medications/etc.   Plus, I missed the deadline to get a paycheck this week.   :eyeroll:  1st day tomorrow in my home store should be another learning curve.

I managed to get in a 6 mile run today and some push ups.  Very happy that I can still actually run that long.  I'd really hate to lose my running foundation because of poor time management.  I'll have to be on the ball this week to keep it going.  We went to a pool party this evening too.  The kids *loved* it, played very well together and they crammed cupcakes in their little faces like it was the best thing ever.  Lucky for me the cupcakes weren't very good.



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Post by: debbatx on August 27, 2012, 09:39:26 AM
Yeah, we all needed hangover food on Sunday morning, to say the least. All that wine was spread out from 4 PM until about midnight, though. I'm still recovering. :)

RA, I hope things are looking up a bit today.
Meri, I'm like Bolloxd. I  :heartbeat: carbs. I'm totally impressed by those of you who don't eat them. I hope the refi works out!!

Didn't do anything this morning, but am back on track for eating today and planning on doing *something* tomorrow morning. I haven't decided what yet, though.
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Post by: merigayle on August 27, 2012, 09:55:49 AM
not going to bug mortgage guy until tomorrow (unless i hear from him first) as they said today or tomorrow to receive paper.

so, vibes for DD, we were going to go to the amusement park today and as i was dressing her, i saw her one knee was red, hot and swollen :( also tender to touch. Dr instead this afternoon :( poor kid. I think it is a bug bite. AND no insurance.  :-[ i got her temporary insurance with a huge deductable just incase anything terrible happened, but no real insurance. ugh.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on August 27, 2012, 09:59:49 AM
Ra...I hope that today is a better day for you.  I admire the fact that you went out and got fresh air and moved around when you are in the dumps.  I usually sit around and wallow. I hope you got a good nights rest.

Deb...OMG I would be dead after that much wine. Even spread out over time.  The food sounds good though! What book did you discuss?

Meri, poor dd!  Maybe a little ice will help?

Bollxd, What is the job? I must have missed it.  Good for you for managing to get a run in....keep it up. Starting over sucks! 

we had sunday dinner at our friends place. Their turn to cook.  It was very good green curry over ling cod, cous cous and a green salad. Fresh blackberry pie and vanilla ice cream for desert. It is a once a week thing...thank goodness...so I am not too worried about the scale being up this morning. 
I plan on eating light today. Veggies, and tuna salad for lunch. maybe an apple and pb for my snack.  I meet my trainer after work for some one on one torture.

I need to make an appt with my massage/art person...I am feeling a little hip flexor rearing its ugly head. bah.  It kept me awake last night until I finally got up and took some advil.

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Post by: merigayle on August 27, 2012, 10:01:35 AM
hope you get that massage soon! DD won't let me touch it or put ice on it. She is running around playing and not seeming stopped by it, at least!
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Post by: Run Amok on August 27, 2012, 10:15:44 AM
I am glad to be back at work today. It's hard to sit around and wallow when you are sharing a 1 bedroom apartment with a 14 year old. ;) DD decided she wanted to sleep with me last night, which was fine except she kept rolling around. So, unfortunately, not so much on the good night's sleep.

Thinking of going for a run after work. We'll see...
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Post by: debbatx on August 27, 2012, 10:38:30 AM
The food was delicious, and we read Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn. Really good book, actually. :)
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Post by: diablita on August 27, 2012, 11:35:51 AM
Good morning.  I was on a good trend but with friends visiting from out of town I ate too much junk over the last two days.  And I'm PMSing.  So I am even today and my blood sugar feels ugh.  It doesn't help that I baked a lemon zucchini cake with icing; did I get that recipe from someone here?


meri, I hope your DD is ok.  That sounds painful.

In the meantime, it's quiet in our 'hood today.  I'm pretty sure our hearing is tomorrow.  It should be interesting.
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Post by: merigayle on August 27, 2012, 02:24:33 PM
still over an hour until dr appt and that means no time for nap, unless she snoozes in the car there :( it looks a bit less swollen, we saw a friend today and the mom was like, holy cow, yep, get to the dr. It most likely looks like a really swollen bug bite, but because it is on her joint, i am taking her. It is huge and red :( I photographed it on my phone just in case it magically disappears before we get there, we have taken her to the dr so many times for rashes in her 3 years of life and half the time she is fine by the time we get there, LOL. She had hives for a week that came and went, at the dr, none, 2 hours later, covered head to toe! LOL

we went to lunch for sushi with her friend and mom and DD ate all my avocado sushi and asked for another order  :e) and learned how to eat edamame from the pod! wheee!
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Post by: diablita on August 27, 2012, 03:08:43 PM
crossing my fingers that it's nothing big or easy to remedy.

And I've done that, too, meri.  I've also drawn a pen around the bump/problem when I was worried about it expanding to track it. 
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Post by: merigayle on August 27, 2012, 03:58:55 PM
Waiting at the dr, ugh.
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Post by: merigayle on August 27, 2012, 07:19:41 PM
so, 3 hour round trip, and it is a bug bite :D At first glance she was very concerned about Lyme with such a large rash, but examined the bite itself and it was not consistent with a tick bite. whew. she said it was a really severe reaction, but i get the same thing, so i was not too terribly surprised. She was not too concerned with the severity of it, but noted it. (like not afraid of anaphalaxis).
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Post by: debbatx on August 27, 2012, 08:49:10 PM
Glad that's all it was!
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Post by: merigayle on August 28, 2012, 07:45:36 AM
It is swollen still, but not as red or hot. She was up all night though, maybe itching? I put cream on it. So I did not sleep at all. I cannot run today anyways, i have a dental cleaning, may fall asleep during that :D
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Post by: MiniDriver on August 28, 2012, 08:57:29 AM
Poor Z. 

I'm starving today.  I don't know if it's just hunger or emotional frustration at the scale not moving despite staying on target with diet and exercise.  I'm slugging away at my coffee, hoping it's thirst.  But I just want to eat.   Pout.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on August 28, 2012, 09:32:21 AM
I am glad it is going to be okay,despite the itching and you not getting any sleep.  You must be super exhausted if you can fall asleep during a cleaning!

I had a tough training session yesterday. 95 lb Squats, pushups and these crazy Russian ab crunches. By the time we were done I could literally not do another pushup!
I am going to be sore  later today.
Today is a rest day for sure! Leftover grilled chicken and cauliflower for lunch. I will take an apple with PB for my snack.

DH went surfing this morning, and I am curled up in bed with the boys. Hank is snoring very loudly. I don't want to go to work today.


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Post by: Run Amok on August 28, 2012, 10:55:53 AM
Sorry Mini- I hope the scale budges for you soon. Just remember that even if it gets stuck a bit, and even if it bounces around a bit, you've done a fantastic job keeping the overall trajectory downword. Your dedication has been an inspiration.  :)

I decided to walk into work today. In brand new shoes. I knew I was developing a  blister but discovered I'd given myself a nice bloody foot. Lovely. I do have emergency shoes here... but they are not exactly cute. I, too, am pouting.

Mouse that workout sounds insane. I wouldn't want to get up either!
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Post by: merigayle on August 28, 2012, 11:09:01 AM
omg RA! glad you had emergency shoes. About to head to the dentist for a cleaning, then i am getting me a big salad for lunch on my way to work :D
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Post by: debbatx on August 28, 2012, 11:29:32 AM
Yikes, RA!

I was a slug again this morning. I slept through the alarms. Oops.
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Post by: merigayle on August 28, 2012, 07:21:18 PM
now DD has a fever and is passed out on the couch :( I hope not related to the bite. ugh. more vibes requested!!! poor thing.
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Post by: diablita on August 28, 2012, 07:52:20 PM
tons of vibes for you.  Can you give her some ibuprofen/tylenol to see if it reduces the fever?
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Post by: merigayle on August 28, 2012, 08:27:24 PM
tons of vibes for you.  Can you give her some ibuprofen/tylenol to see if it reduces the fever?
it is only 100.9, i generally do not medicate until it get higher, let the fever do it's thing. new theory is she picked up something at the drs office yesterday  :eyeroll:
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Post by: diablita on August 28, 2012, 08:33:56 PM
Gotcha.  I agree with the 'letting a low fever run its course' thing, but I was thinking that if it went down with the ibuprofen, it's more likely a bug.  And if not, not.
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Post by: debbatx on August 28, 2012, 10:27:40 PM
Awwww, poor Z. Hope she's better soon, meri.
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Post by: triciaflower on August 28, 2012, 11:27:33 PM
Ran Yesterday and have plans to run again tomorrow with friends. woo woo!!

I posted this on fb last night.. If you are exhausted, run anyway. I was seriously tired. If I didn't have plans to run with people, I totally would have talked myself out of going. So I went. And it was AWESOME. I was no speed demon for sure, but I went longer than I had planned. Then I slept like a log. snore.

Ate really well today, and am looking forward to the scale this week.

Feeling good!!
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Post by: Magic Microbe on August 28, 2012, 11:41:56 PM
it is only 100.9, i generally do not medicate until it get higher, let the fever do it's thing. new theory is she picked up something at the drs office yesterday  :eyeroll:

That's a bit quick. Most viruses have way longer incubation times.
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Post by: triciaflower on August 29, 2012, 12:01:21 AM
I always thought it was at least 48 hours.
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 07:41:42 AM
well after a very long night of fevers, puking and baths, no fever and leg looks 90% better. i got about 2 hours sleep and DH is staying home with DD.  :sleep:
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Post by: cgraz on August 29, 2012, 08:15:47 AM
Ran Yesterday and have plans to run again tomorrow with friends. woo woo!!

I posted this on fb last night.. If you are exhausted, run anyway. I was seriously tired. If I didn't have plans to run with people, I totally would have talked myself out of going. So I went. And it was AWESOME. I was no speed demon for sure, but I went longer than I had planned. Then I slept like a log. snore.

Ate really well today, and am looking forward to the scale this week.

Feeling good!!

That's fantastic...and so true about pushing  yourself to run.
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Post by: VP of Tea on August 29, 2012, 08:19:07 AM
Ran Yesterday and have plans to run again tomorrow with friends. woo woo!!

I posted this on fb last night.. If you are exhausted, run anyway. I was seriously tired. If I didn't have plans to run with people, I totally would have talked myself out of going. So I went. And it was AWESOME. I was no speed demon for sure, but I went longer than I had planned. Then I slept like a log. snore.

Ate really well today, and am looking forward to the scale this week.

Feeling good!!

 :rah:
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on August 29, 2012, 09:48:19 AM
Ran Yesterday and have plans to run again tomorrow with friends. woo woo!!

I posted this on fb last night.. If you are exhausted, run anyway. I was seriously tired. If I didn't have plans to run with people, I totally would have talked myself out of going. So I went. And it was AWESOME. I was no speed demon for sure, but I went longer than I had planned. Then I slept like a log. snore.

Ate really well today, and am looking forward to the scale this week.

Feeling good!!
win!!
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Post by: MiniDriver on August 29, 2012, 10:54:43 AM
Yay tricia!

My car wouldn't start this morning, so I walked to work. It was really wonderful - perfect weather and I barely limped.  It felt so good to be fairly normal.  DH figured out it was just a dead battery, so we won't have to put it in the shop.  Win! 

Still no movement on the scale.   :(  I keep telling myself that it's about healthy living and not numbers on the scale, but it's still annoying. 
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Post by: onawhim on August 29, 2012, 11:07:26 AM
Bleh I have been having heart palpitations and went to the Dr. yesterday and she examined me and then sent me to the ER.  So I got to sit there for 6+ hours in cardiac triage with the other 70 year old men  :D   I guess I have MVP and possibly something wrong with my thyroid  :grr:
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 11:14:47 AM
Good job, tricia!

I need a running buddy. I'm too disgustingly lazy to drag ass out of bed by myself.

onawhim, yikes!! I don't know what MVP is, but I hope you're okay!
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Post by: diablita on August 29, 2012, 11:22:27 AM
mitral valve prolapse?

 :hug: onawhim
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Post by: onawhim on August 29, 2012, 11:25:58 AM
yeah. I have to go for a bunch of heart-y tests still but probably not a big deal.   And they said there is no risk with working out so back on the horse  :D  I thought maybe I was going to have a good excuse to be lazy for life. Foiled!  :P
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Ohhhh. Okay, that makes more sense. Glad you can still work out!
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Post by: MiniDriver on August 29, 2012, 11:44:50 AM
yeah. I have to go for a bunch of heart-y tests still but probably not a big deal.   And they said there is no risk with working out so back on the horse  :D  I thought maybe I was going to have a good excuse to be lazy for life. Foiled!  :P

Ah, the holy grail of an excuse to be lazy! 
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 11:51:27 AM
mini glad you are less gimpy and onawhim, omg, glad you are ok.
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Post by: Run Amok on August 29, 2012, 11:59:17 AM
Ugh. Waiting at the hospital is the absolute worst! Glad to hear that things are probably ok though!

Someone went to sbucks and they made them the wrong drink... so I was gifted with a chai tea latte. Between the sugar and caffeine- I am buzzing! Good thing, too, because I have a lot to get done today and a short day.
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Post by: diablita on August 29, 2012, 12:05:51 PM
Ah, the holy grail of an excuse to be lazy! 

 :d
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 12:57:23 PM
i could use some sugar + caffeine!
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 01:17:29 PM
Ugh, I just spent some time on Etsy looking at ideas for party decorations for Reid's birthday. Everything had a massive spread of delicious-looking food. Now I want cupcakes. LOTS OF THEM.
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 01:46:37 PM
oh i constantly torture myself by going on pinterest and DROOOOOOOOLING.  :nono:
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 02:05:21 PM
LOL!

Also, I don't think I'm a good enough mom to throw some of those parties. Yeesh.
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 02:18:57 PM
totally agree! LOL. and too poor :D


omg, so the mortgage guy said we should get the final ok any minute now, i am literally ready to keel over with anxiety. UGH. DD is sleeping and DH will have to wake her soon for closing, so this is just really annoying.  :panic:
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 02:26:08 PM
 :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers:

Yeah, definitely too poor for some of them. Nor do I have the time. Good Lord.
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 02:30:51 PM
2:33, still waiting for word.  :panic:
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Post by: onawhim on August 29, 2012, 02:33:59 PM
 :fingers:
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 02:34:43 PM
i just finished with my last patient and just killing time here at the office waiting and waiting and waiting. i even brought my phone to the bathroom. thanks for listening to me :)
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
LOL! Yeah, I'd be doing the same thing in your shoes. Ugh. This makes me want to check our interest rate, AND bury my head in the sand and pretend I've never heard of refinancing.
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 03:03:19 PM
ok, we are on for 4pm!  :panic: let's hope this is the real deal. I am really about to pass the eff out! ACK!!! I will let you know when it happens. DH now has to wake DD up from her sick nap, poor thing (and DH!).
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 03:39:44 PM
Sorry about DD's nap, but  :fingers: that the closing happens!
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 03:59:38 PM
I am here and just waiting for DH, so once we sign lots of stuff we should be good.
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 04:04:23 PM
YAY!!!!
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Post by: VP of Tea on August 29, 2012, 04:31:42 PM
 :fingers: crossed it's all signed and done now, Meri!
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 04:49:41 PM
So, I'm trying to convince myself that it's "worth it" to get up and run tomorrow. My very "all or nothing" brain is arguing that, since tomorrow is Thursday, there's no point in getting up early tomorrow because I'll only do that for 2 days before the weekend, so why bother, just wait until Monday, no wait, wait until TUESDAY since Monday is a holiday.

My common sense side is rolling its eyes at the all or nothing side and telling me to CTFU and run in the morning.
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Post by: rocketgirl on August 29, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
:fingers: crossed it's all signed and done now, Meri!

1!
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Post by: rocketgirl on August 29, 2012, 04:57:43 PM
So, I'm trying to convince myself that it's "worth it" to get up and run tomorrow. My very "all or nothing" brain is arguing that, since tomorrow is Thursday, there's no point in getting up early tomorrow because I'll only do that for 2 days before the weekend, so why bother, just wait until Monday, no wait, wait until TUESDAY since Monday is a holiday.

My common sense side is rolling its eyes at the all or nothing side and telling me to CTFU and run in the morning.

So?  I have a lot of weeks where I only run 2 days instead of 3.  Every day you are out there is worth the effort.  A week is never ruined just because you overslept a couple of days.  Every day is brand new.  You can DO this.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 05:12:44 PM
The common sense side of me knows all that. The ridiculous perfectionist side of me thinks that if I didn't get ALL my planned workouts in, the week is an utter failure and I might as well go drown myself in a vat of cheeseburgers. It's the perfectionist side I'm trying to calm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on August 29, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
The common sense side of me knows all that. The ridiculous perfectionist side of me thinks that if I didn't get ALL my planned workouts in, the week is an utter failure and I might as well go drown myself in a vat of cheeseburgers. It's the perfectionist side I'm trying to calm.

Do I need to call your ass tomorrow morning and make you run?!?!?!  (I might need such a call myself, but guilt is a pretty powerful motivator for me.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 05:23:25 PM
LOL!
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 05:34:17 PM
done!!!!!!  :bow2:
too tired to respond to anything else right now.
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 05:37:20 PM
:w00t:

Congrats!!
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Post by: merigayle on August 29, 2012, 06:47:30 PM
we are going to save close to $300,000 throughout the life of the loan  :e)
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Post by: debbatx on August 29, 2012, 08:30:29 PM
Yeah, that's worth it! :yikes:
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Post by: onawhim on August 29, 2012, 08:55:56 PM
Good news! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on August 29, 2012, 09:12:36 PM
The common sense side of me knows all that. The ridiculous perfectionist side of me thinks that if I didn't get ALL my planned workouts in, the week is an utter failure and I might as well go drown myself in a vat of cheeseburgers. It's the perfectionist side I'm trying to calm.

A vat of cheeseburgers sounds awfully messy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on August 29, 2012, 09:30:48 PM
A vat of cheeseburgers sounds awfully messy delicious.

FIFY.  :D
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Post by: diablita on August 29, 2012, 10:03:23 PM
woohoo meri!  I'm so happy for you.  :w00t:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 29, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
The common sense side of me knows all that. The ridiculous perfectionist side of me thinks that if I didn't get ALL my planned workouts in, the week is an utter failure and I might as well go drown myself in a vat of cheeseburgers. It's the perfectionist side I'm trying to calm.

Okie dokie- how about this? If you do it tomorrow you'll feel even more satisfied with yourself for doing it, over all of the objections. See? Now you have to do it to find out.

Congrats Meri!!!!

It's 7:49. I took a nap earlier and I'm contemplating running. I don't have any music though. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 30, 2012, 08:27:52 AM
no run for me again today, DD is sick with a 102.7F fever. Ugh. No fever all day yesterday. I am staying home with her until DH can come home this afternoon. booooo. I had a fever last night too. Not fun.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 30, 2012, 08:57:57 AM
FInally forced some tylenol on her, hope the fever goes down :(
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Post by: diablita on August 30, 2012, 09:05:47 AM
 :hug: meri.  I hope she kicks whatever it is quickly.
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Post by: merigayle on August 30, 2012, 09:26:33 AM
Me too! We r supposed to go to boston tomorrow night and boy am i severely sleep deprived.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on August 30, 2012, 09:32:17 AM
Yay Meri for finally getting the refi finished. That must be such a load of your mind!

I saw our new mortgage papers lying around yesterday and it said 'monthly payments are due through 2042'. DH and I had a chuckle about how very very far in the future that is. (I'm sure we will have sold by then).
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Post by: merigayle on August 30, 2012, 09:47:58 AM
Yep, 30 yrs. I think we are never moving!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 30, 2012, 09:49:49 AM
Bummer meri. I hope the fever breaks and she gets better lickity split. I also try and just let a fever run its course but it's hard when they are so pathetic and feeling so terrible and you know it's the fever talking.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 30, 2012, 09:54:02 AM
Hey, Mouse, if you're reading this- the first thing I thought when I saw the picture of you and dewey on FB is that you are looking super skinny! I didn't want to post that on your FB picture though.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 30, 2012, 10:10:37 AM
I usually let the fever take its course (unless it gets to 103.5 or higher) but she was soooooo misrable i forced some slightly expired tylenol on her and she is doimg better and arts and crafts.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 30, 2012, 10:19:25 AM
Awwww, meri, I hope she's better soon. I usually give Reid ibuprofen with a fever, mostly because if he has one, it's pretty high to begin with, and he's flipping miserable. I figure if it helps him sleep some, too, then I'm good with it. I don't dose him if he's feverish but running around like a normal kid.

Okie dokie- how about this? If you do it tomorrow you'll feel even more satisfied with yourself for doing it, over all of the objections. See? Now you have to do it to find out.

Congrats Meri!!!!

It's 7:49. I took a nap earlier and I'm contemplating running. I don't have any music though. Hmmm.

Ooops. I got a new book last night (cheesy romance novel) and stayed up reading it.  :-[

I'm resetting on September 1st.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 30, 2012, 11:56:51 AM
Work has been nuts and it has effected my exercising. I just can't manage to work 12 hour days, commute for over two hours each day, and run. I am exhausted and it isn't over yet. Our lab is splitting into a new building next wed and we are nowhere near packed. I have spent the last two entire days inventorying all our chemicals and pulling almost 100 duplicates to send and I am not even done with the chemicals yet. Eek!


I think my boss thinks some magical mystery fairy does all of this because he keeps asking me for data...like I have time to do experiments.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 30, 2012, 05:41:52 PM
Okay, I need side dish ideas. A friend of mine is having a Labor Day BBQ on Sunday evening and I need a side to bring. They're doing fried chicken, mashed potatoes, and fried corn (WTF? You can *fry* corn??). Someone else is bringing waffles (yes, really), possibly a cheesy something veggie casserole, and mojitos.

I'd like to do something veggie-based, but still delicious, and I'm stumped. I have a great potato salad recipe, but don't want to do that because of the mashed potatoes.

Help!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on August 30, 2012, 05:57:01 PM
Sub out yellow squash for the pasta in a baked macaroni and cheese recipe.
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Post by: merigayle on August 30, 2012, 06:11:47 PM
quinoa or pasta salad with lots of veggies and low fat dressing?
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Post by: cgraz on August 30, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
quinoa or pasta salad with lots of veggies and low fat dressing?

That would be great - heavy on the veggies. Or some kind of healthy slaw, with a lighter dressing. Or a big green salad. Salad is great with anything at a BBQ.

And wishing you the strength to resist the fried chicken and waffle combo. *sigh*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on August 30, 2012, 07:56:16 PM
And tell us wht fried corn Is :D

I am gettin fatter by the minute, here is to hoping next week life gets back to normal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: bensmom243 on August 30, 2012, 08:45:47 PM
Okay, I need side dish ideas. A friend of mine is having a Labor Day BBQ on Sunday evening and I need a side to bring. They're doing fried chicken, mashed potatoes, and fried corn (WTF? You can *fry* corn??). Someone else is bringing waffles (yes, really), possibly a cheesy something veggie casserole, and mojitos.

I'd like to do something veggie-based, but still delicious, and I'm stumped. I have a great potato salad recipe, but don't want to do that because of the mashed potatoes.

Help!

How about the Broccoli Slaw salad with crunchy ramen noodles on top?  It is one of my favorite go to summer salad, it is so easy and so yummy. 

Ingredients

1 (16 ounce) package broccoli coleslaw mix
2 (3 ounce) packages chicken flavored ramen noodles
1 bunch green onions, chopped
1 cup unsalted peanuts
1 cup sunflower seeds
1/2 cup white sugar
1/4 cup vegetable oil
1/3 cup cider vinegar
Directions

In a large salad bowl, combine the slaw, broken noodles and green onions.
Whisk together the sugar, oil, vinegar and ramen seasoning packets. Pour over salad and toss to evenly coat. Refrigerate until chilled; top with peanuts and sunflower seeds before serving.


I use just one package of ramen and about 1/2 the suggested sugar, delicious every time!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on August 30, 2012, 09:43:09 PM
Red cabbage slaw with carrot ginger dressing.  The dressing can be really flavorful and really low fat without coming off as low fat ... in a food processor add a few roughly chopped carrots (4 large?), a knob of ginger roughly chopped, (I like very gingery but do to taste), 1/3c rice wine vinegar, if you have miso a T or so (if not salt or soy sauce is fine), a T of sesame oil, and another few T of light olive oil or other mild oil (grapeseed), process until smooth.  Google carrot ginger dressing for more exact proportions and variations but it's hard to mess up.

Also, with that menu, I bet a pretty veggie tray with a few homemade dips (hummus, etc.) would be welcomed.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on August 30, 2012, 09:49:55 PM
Meri, glad the refi is done!  Now hopefully you'll all be in top health very soon. 
Deb, I usually take a couscous salad type thing that is packed full of veggies and some feta.  It's fairly healthy and something I can make ahead of time.  Something like that might work for you?
MM, hoping work calms down for you soon. 

I have thoroughly enjoyed my day off today.  Caught up on my missing sleep then DH went out to work and I spent the morning with the kids.  We went on a 1.5 mile trail 'run'...they love it so much, and so do I !!  Although I think I pulled my shoulder out of joint when Rachel slid and I tried to hold her up.  I got a 3 mile run in on the treadmill too, along with my push ups. 

It's gonna be a longer than usual work day tomorrow...hopefully my back can handle it.  Diablita, your tip on stretching hamstrings has really helped!!  I think I need different shoes though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 30, 2012, 10:20:12 PM
Red cabbage slaw with carrot ginger dressing.  The dressing can be really flavorful and really low fat without coming off as low fat ... in a food processor add a few roughly chopped carrots (4 large?), a knob of ginger roughly chopped, (I like very gingery but do to taste), 1/3c rice wine vinegar, if you have miso a T or so (if not salt or soy sauce is fine), a T of sesame oil, and another few T of light olive oil or other mild oil (grapeseed), process until smooth.  Google carrot ginger dressing for more exact proportions and variations but it's hard to mess up.

Also, with that menu, I bet a pretty veggie tray with a few homemade dips (hummus, etc.) would be welcomed.

This sounds delicious.  Do you shred the red cabbage in the food processor as well?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on August 30, 2012, 11:20:33 PM
I like to bring an asparagus, green bean, cherry tomato, and feta salad to events.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on August 31, 2012, 07:15:49 AM
This sounds delicious. 

That is what I was thinking, too. Am going to try this.
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Post by: teetime on August 31, 2012, 09:44:22 AM
I don't.  I don't think we have a shredding blade (at least not for the really kick ass old school processor we use most often) and I actually like longer but thinner strips than you get from the processor ... but with a good knife and a large cutting board it really doens't take much time.

Here is the recipe that I followed the first time I made it.  Since then I've modified to add more ginger and sugar only if the carrots aren't super sweet (usually they add plenty sweetness).  I also double the recipe and save half for salad dressing throughout the week.

http://www.washingtonsgreengrocer.com/recipes/red-cabbage-slaw-carrot-ginger-dressing/detail.htm (http://www.washingtonsgreengrocer.com/recipes/red-cabbage-slaw-carrot-ginger-dressing/detail.htm)

Oh, do follow the pre-salting step.  Comes out much more tender.  And it is great the next couple days after being made.
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Post by: VP of Tea on August 31, 2012, 10:54:07 AM
Teetime, that looks awesome, thanks!
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Post by: diablita on August 31, 2012, 10:56:35 AM
yes!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on August 31, 2012, 11:26:02 AM
Holy cow, all of those sound fabulous! I found a recipe for a green bean, tomato, onion...something else salad, too. I'll have to see what I'm in the mood for. :) Thanks, everyone!!
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Post by: cgraz on August 31, 2012, 11:34:07 AM
I want to host or attend a BBQ just so I can bust out some of these ideas!
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Post by: bensmom243 on August 31, 2012, 11:34:30 AM
I like to bring an asparagus, green bean, cherry tomato, and feta salad to events.

That sounds great, do you have a special dressing that you use?
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Post by: Magic Microbe on August 31, 2012, 12:04:08 PM
That sounds great, do you have a special dressing that you use?

Not really. I normally just mix up a balsamic dressing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 31, 2012, 07:40:03 PM
So, I just weighed myself nekid on my home scale, for the first time in a few weeks. Ironically, I am the exact weight I was when I met DH. I have lost 35 lbs.

Given the choice, I'd take fat & happy over skinny and miserable any day. But, if I have to be miserable, I might as well be skinny too, right?

I am staying at the house tonight. I am supposed to be packing. But, I'm stuck. I own not a stitch of clothing that fits so I might leave just about everything and start to rebuild my wardrobe a few pieces at a time. I purged about 1/2 my shoes though.  :-\
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Post by: Run Amok on August 31, 2012, 07:40:32 PM
P.S. I guess I shoulda done the wlc after all.
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Post by: debbatx on August 31, 2012, 08:48:49 PM
RA,  :hug: I am not a stress dieter. I'm a stress eater. I'd have gained 50 with everything you're dealing with.

I'm restarting tomorrow. I have my goals typed up and ready to post on the fridge.
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Post by: diablita on August 31, 2012, 09:05:52 PM
 :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on August 31, 2012, 10:04:13 PM
I am not a stress dieter. I'm a stress eater. I'd have gained 50 with everything you're dealing with.

I've been thinking a lot about this this week. I wonder what makes some of us stress eaters vs non-eaters.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on September 01, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
I've been thinking a lot about this this week. I wonder what makes some of us stress eaters vs non-eaters.

That is an interesting thought.  For me, it tends to depend on what is stressing me out.  I normally am a stress-eater, but I specifically remember one rough break-up.  I felt emotionally empty, so it felt appropriate for my stomach to feel empty too.  Normally I try to fill the void with food, so that was different for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on September 01, 2012, 07:18:27 AM
So, I just weighed myself nekid on my home scale, for the first time in a few weeks. Ironically, I am the exact weight I was when I met DH. I have lost 35 lbs.


You lost 35 pounds in a "few" weeks??????  How many weeks?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 01, 2012, 08:22:17 AM
nadra, same here.  It is a good questions.

Ice Cream, I think it's been quite a few weeks since RA's ordeals began but I could be wrong?  I think she lost a friend, then moved, then her marriage separation.  I'm not sure where in there the weight loss started.  But she had done the WLC prior to all of this beginning and also lost weight during that time.

 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: RA.  It's been a tough summer for you.  On the bright side, in your FB pictures you look about 20.  So you look fabulous!
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Post by: Run Amok on September 01, 2012, 10:32:32 AM
You lost 35 pounds in a "few" weeks??????  How many weeks?

Oh! No! I started losing weight in December. I lost about 20lbs over a period of 4 months, then kinda stalled and took another 5lbs off over the next 4 months. The rest has come off over the past month. So, really, it's not all *that* dramatic in terms of stress weight loss. But I am thrilled to be down 35lbs from my high.  I don't know the exact numbers (except start and end) because they were on different scales, not always nekid not always at the same time of day/same conditions,etc. I think I had maybe gained a few lbs from my previous low before all this started.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 01, 2012, 10:55:28 AM
Our friends just left.  They visited for a week and we loved having them here, but I am worn out from all the extra work it takes to keep a house up with house guests (esp. with a 5 year-old).  And said 5 year-old is a bit over-indulged so made it a bit tough.

Now I just want to do nothing, but my 4 year-old is not a fan of that idea.  We'll probably go out for a nature walk soon.  On the bright side, she has a sleepover tonight!  Her best friend's mom is the director of their school and she's amazing.  So she's invited J over for a sleepover and I have full confidence that J will be well behaved and will sleep b/c the mom is great at discipline and rule enforcement.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 01, 2012, 12:03:08 PM
Enjoy a break d, you deserve it!
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Post by: diablita on September 01, 2012, 12:51:23 PM
Thanks, RA.  We'll be deciding between an evening hike off the Blue Ridge Parkway or a movie.  Can't go wrong either way.

And...as our friends loaded up the car to drive away, they let their 5 year-old hop into her car seat/booster thing (I've never seen one like it before; may be from Venezuela where they moved from?)  I didn't think anything of it b/c J clips her own seat straps these days.  Except their DD didn't clip the straps and they didn't ask her to.  She was bobbing up and down as they drove away.  This may have something to do with the fact that Vzla has no laws (that I know of) about car seats and our good friend (who is marrying the mom and adopting the DD) has never been a parent until he met her recently.  But anyway, now we have to have an uncomfortable conversation with them when they return to NJ tomorrow.
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Post by: Run Amok on September 01, 2012, 02:27:17 PM
Oooh, and evening hike sounds lovely!!

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Post by: nadra24 on September 01, 2012, 04:49:10 PM
Just got back from a run.  We went to Echo Reservoir which is about halfway between Evanston and Park City, and ran a couple of miles along the trail there.  It's nice and flat, and it was really muddy in some spots which was fun!  Kenyan and I are out of shape, so 25 minutes was good for us.  Then we went to Park City so he could get his favorite Cafe Rio burrito.  I like the food there, but we ALWAYS go there (Kenyan is obsessed) so I opted for a crab roll from the bakery next door.  It is probably good that we got there at the time we did, because 30 minutes earlier I would have gotten the all-you-can-eat french toast which is amazing, but way more than I need to eat after running only 2.5 miles!

Gotta build up the mileage.  I never really got back into a regular exercise schedule after I got my tonsils out at the end of April.  Now I live at 6000 feet, and it's taking me a lot longer to rebuild mileage than it ever has before.  At least Kenyan is in the same boat as me.  Unfortunately when he is in shape he is much faster than I am, so we'll see how long it lasts that we can train together.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 01, 2012, 05:14:53 PM
Went for a shuffle this morning. It's going to take a while before I can actually call it a run. Okay breakfast, good lunch. No idea what we'll do for dinner. Hmmmm. Need to start thinking about that.

 :wah: <---- that is from Reid.
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Post by: Bolloxd on September 01, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
Kid influenced smilies make me happy.

My plans for a run turned into other activities and a nap.  We took the kids to the book store today and I noticed a new local interest book about Henry River Mill Village (Hunger Games District 12).  There were 2 pictures of my Granny in it so I had to buy it.   :)

The house is a wreck so that is the plan for tomorrow, along with a run if I can get my butt out of bed.
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Post by: merigayle on September 02, 2012, 07:57:13 AM
At my MIL's w no internet. Eating just ok, i got DD's illness and still feel like shit. Thankfully leaving soon, LOL.
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Post by: debbatx on September 02, 2012, 09:38:42 AM
Awww, feel better soon, meri!

I hate Jillian right now, that is all.  :o

BUT, I got my second workout in a row done.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 02, 2012, 07:24:32 PM
Migraine for several days, comes and goes but never full gOne, if here tomorrow may go to er or urgent care :( taking tons of advil and aleve, ugh
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Post by: onawhim on September 02, 2012, 08:22:22 PM
 :hug: hope you feel better soon Meri.  I know how you feel debba that 30DS is always harder than you think it will be. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 03, 2012, 06:25:52 AM
Ugh. Migraines are the worst. Sorry meri!

I loaded up my Zune so I'm ready to start running again.  :lambie: I am waiting til we get settled today though!

The best revenge is a living well and getting my ass not only skinny, but fit, is part of that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 03, 2012, 07:36:33 AM
RA- one step at a time :)

I woke up around 4-5am with a migraine, but at 7am, it seems ok, feel fuzzy headed and a tad bit sore, but DD is screaming and yelling and if she sends it back, I am going to be pissed. I really don't want to go to the ER and get drugged up, but i cannot take another day of it. Crossing fingers it stays away.
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Post by: diablita on September 03, 2012, 08:18:43 AM
Crossing my fingers for you, too  :hug:  Do you head home today?


We're having a few families/friends over for brunch this morning.  I did some of the prep last night.  Having bagels with tuna salad (already made), egg salad, nova cream cheese (already made), edamame, red cabbage slaw w/ carrot dressing (teetime's recipe) and assorted fruit and sweets.  The weather is looking iffy; if it cooperates we'll picnic in the front yard and let them ride bikes and fly kites.  Apple orchard visit later this afternoon.

 :fsm: :wah: :tombstone: :bitchfight: :bouquet: :heartbeat: :bouquet: :buttpat: :>D: :fuz   :paw: <---- Jessica asked to add these
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Post by: merigayle on September 03, 2012, 08:28:31 AM
love the emoticons :D

We headed home yesterday actually. I am not sure if the migraine was just sleep deprivation + my MIL or something else :D i am feeling ok, but have that migraine hangover feeling. I just hope it stays away. I even drove the whole way home, but every time we stopped at a rest area, the lights of the rest area made the migraine rage, but once in the car it was manageable, but once i got home it was a 10/10 on the pain scale. If it was not so late and we had not been in the car all day, i would have gone to the ER.

rain here, bummer. I hope your weather holds out.

gotta go thru pinterest soon and plan our weekly menu :)
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Post by: debbatx on September 03, 2012, 09:12:44 AM
C25K this morning. Forgot my inhaler - oops. Yesterday's eating...  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 03, 2012, 10:18:58 AM
C25K this morning. Forgot my inhaler - oops. Yesterday's eating...  :nono:
but yeah for C25K!!!! boo to inhaler.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on September 03, 2012, 11:10:55 AM
Crossing my fingers for you, too  :hug:  Do you head home today?


We're having a few families/friends over for brunch this morning.  I did some of the prep last night.  Having bagels with tuna salad (already made), egg salad, nova cream cheese (already made), edamame, red cabbage slaw w/ carrot dressing (teetime's recipe) and assorted fruit and sweets.  The weather is looking iffy; if it cooperates we'll picnic in the front yard and let them ride bikes and fly kites.  Apple orchard visit later this afternoon.


Hope it comes out well!

I need to join you all for a couple weeks after a slow slide into bad habits (no breakfast and pm snacking for example) capped off by a really overly decadent* weekend with my sister in town.  I haven't felt truly gross since the winter holidays...until now.

*Most decadent ... homemade tahini honey ice cream.  I'd been mulling over recipe ideas and my sister's friend (who owns every kitchen gadget known to man including an ice cream maker) had us over, so I had to try it.  I'd share the recipe but it was dangerously good and not appropriate for a healthy eating thread :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 03, 2012, 12:45:45 PM
Well I ended up running today, hoping the exercise would help. I think it did. Lovely morning for a run. Had the normally crowded trail mostly to myself.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 03, 2012, 01:11:50 PM
Well I ended up running today, hoping the exercise would help. I think it did. Lovely morning for a run. Had the normally crowded trail mostly to myself.
Yeah!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 03, 2012, 01:40:31 PM
RA, that sounds heavenly.  I was hoping to get in a trail run this weekend but it's pouring today and I'm still exhausted.  So yesterday's pavement pound may be it.


Teetime, the red cabbage slaw was OUTRAGEOUSLY good.  Oh my goodness.  If I weren't full and trying to eat reasonably today, I would the rest of the leftovers.  One of my friends ate a whole plateful and everybody wants the recipe.  And it was so easy to make with few ingredients.  A keeper for sure; thank you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 03, 2012, 04:06:00 PM
I don't.  I don't think we have a shredding blade (at least not for the really kick ass old school processor we use most often) and I actually like longer but thinner strips than you get from the processor ... but with a good knife and a large cutting board it really doens't take much time.

Here is the recipe that I followed the first time I made it.  Since then I've modified to add more ginger and sugar only if the carrots aren't super sweet (usually they add plenty sweetness).  I also double the recipe and save half for salad dressing throughout the week.

http://www.washingtonsgreengrocer.com/recipes/red-cabbage-slaw-carrot-ginger-dressing/detail.htm (http://www.washingtonsgreengrocer.com/recipes/red-cabbage-slaw-carrot-ginger-dressing/detail.htm)

Oh, do follow the pre-salting step.  Comes out much more tender.  And it is great the next couple days after being made.
pinned it for later :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 03, 2012, 08:26:09 PM
not healthy but delicious
http://vegandad.blogspot.com/2008/10/chocolate-pumpkin-pudding-cake.html (http://vegandad.blogspot.com/2008/10/chocolate-pumpkin-pudding-cake.html)

i cut the sugar back A LOT and it was still amazing. My first pudding cake!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 03, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
Yay!  Pumpkin time!  Are we still under the Great Pumpkin Drought?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on September 03, 2012, 09:25:05 PM
Teetime, the red cabbage slaw was OUTRAGEOUSLY good. 

YAY!

If you want to post your mock chicken salad recipe, I'd like to give that a try in return :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 04, 2012, 08:12:17 AM
i have a case of organic canned pumpkin hoarded in my cupboards.....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 04, 2012, 09:52:09 AM
Had a hell of a time sleeping last night - I think our a/c is dying. I kept waking up. :( So no workout this morning, but I have the gym tonight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 04, 2012, 10:12:22 AM
Ran again this morning. Then I actually felt good about eating a bit of breakfast.

 Not my photo- but this is my new running route. 18 unterruped miles in the city and like 50+ total. My little segment runs from a beach along the ship canal and out to the lake.  :heartbeat:

(http://armigatus.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/burkegilmantrail5.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 04, 2012, 01:06:37 PM
very nice, RA!

No running for me either, had a patient emergency and did a house call! Atleast i made some extra $$ ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 04, 2012, 02:44:57 PM
Hi y'all!  I'm back from a weekend in Napa.  I didn't worry too much about calories, and just enjoyed it.  I'm sure I'm up a bit, but I suspect a lot of that is due to not drinking much, and eating salty foods a lot.  I had the most delicious spinach salad with bacon and goat cheese, with some sort of dressing I wish I could figure out how to recreate.  Mmmm. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 04, 2012, 02:49:10 PM
Ooh, this is the place we went:

http://www.sugarcafesf.com/html/sugar_cafe_san_francisco_bar_b.php (http://www.sugarcafesf.com/html/sugar_cafe_san_francisco_bar_b.php)

I had the BMFJ salad.  I don't know what bacon marmalade is, but it was freakin' amazing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 04, 2012, 02:50:27 PM
welcome back!  how was it?  I've always wanted to tour napa/sonoma.  We'll be in Southern Cal from Friday through the following weekend but no time to head up.
We really should just hit one of our local wineries (NC wine = not bad); maybe i'll try to find one for the fall and ask my dad to do a sleepover with Jessica.


I ate the rest of the cabbage slaw today.  yum.  On the downside, my ears are totally stuffy; I think my allergies are starting up again.  boo!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 04, 2012, 03:10:28 PM
I'm glad you took a break and enjoyed Napa! :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 04, 2012, 03:14:49 PM
Napa was BEAUTIFUL.  The weather was great, like fall.  We spent one day going to wineries on the main road, and then the next day to wineries on the secondary (less busy) road.  Hands down, we enjoyed the 2nd day more.  The people really make the experience great.  There was one place (Rutherford Ranch, I believe) that did a wine/chocolate pairing tasting, which was really fun.  We had some white chocolate lemon bark with our chardonnay.  Now, I don't like which chocolate OR chardonnay, but this was pretty amazing. 

We had great food while we were there, too.  We ate at a place called Farmstead one day for lunch, and it was really good stuff.  My friend had a bacon bloody mary!  It's a really neat place to visit, and I would totally go back.  We stayed at a resort that was lovely, and even tho I only knew one of the girls we went with (bridesmaids' trip) it was awesome.  The other girls were so great, and welcoming to me.  We are all ready for our reunion at the actual wedding!  Eating out was tricky at times, trying to avoid gluten, but I ate salads and burgers without buns and got by just fine.   Oh, and cheese.  I probably ate too much cheese.  :D 

I'm definitely all wined out for a bit.  But I'll be back to it soon, I'm sure. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 04, 2012, 03:17:19 PM
Oh, FFS. My trainer had to cancel. I guess I can do 30 DS tonight. Reid likes watching it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 04, 2012, 03:27:15 PM
i feel like a fat fuck. i feel gross. i need to run. hope to get some time in on Thursday. really frustrated at myself :( just one of those days.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 04, 2012, 03:36:02 PM
Ohhhh, I've had those days, meri.  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 04, 2012, 03:41:17 PM
i feel like a fat fuck. i feel gross. i need to run. hope to get some time in on Thursday. really frustrated at myself :( just one of those days.

Meri, please don't call yourself names like that.   :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 04, 2012, 04:05:47 PM
Meri...  :( I just want youto know that I have seen many photos of you on fb and I have never, once, ever, even for a second thought "gee, she's kind of a chub, she could stand to lose a few". In fact, quite the opposite. You are a beuatiful, strong, fit, woman and I admire you more than I can say!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 04, 2012, 04:09:43 PM
 :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on September 04, 2012, 04:42:39 PM
Meri...  :( I just want youto know that I have seen many photos of you on fb and I have never, once, ever, even for a second thought "gee, she's kind of a chub, she could stand to lose a few". In fact, quite the opposite. You are a beuatiful, strong, fit, woman and I admire you more than I can say!


1!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 04, 2012, 04:51:28 PM
Thank you :) i know i am not fat but easily still 15+ lbs above pre preggo weight. It just sucks. And i have been really bloated and look pregnant, lol, not good for self esteem. And the power is out at work, argh!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 05, 2012, 06:26:54 PM
if you want to know true craziness, spend an afternoon with my otherwise lovely neighbor and listen to her crap about Obama. She asked me if i was voting for Obama, sure that i was not and almost fell outta her chair when i said i was NOT joking. She must be one of those people that believes all those crazy email forwards. She was going on and on about women not allowed to get mammograms after a certain age per obamacare and she said Obama and his "czars" have violated the constitution, etc. I was czars? you are off your rocker. She was IRATE over this shit. it was insane. Just insane. I knew she was not going to vote for the "colored" guy, but holy heck this shit was over the roof crazy. I need a nap now :( and i kept telling her this is why friends don't discuss politics but she would not stop :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 05, 2012, 10:06:25 PM
OMG, you live next door to Mags?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 05, 2012, 10:22:48 PM
 :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on September 06, 2012, 07:12:49 AM
Come back to Massachusetts.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 06, 2012, 07:43:14 AM
OMG, you live next door to Mags?
dude! it was not even like she listened to Fox News, but those stupid email forward things, LOL.

and fwiw, DH's family in MA (not my MIL) is just like neighbor!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 06, 2012, 10:27:04 AM
LOL! I think a lot of those stupid email forwards start with something Fox News says. And then it gets even MORE twisted up.

Yesterday was kind of a disaster, but I'm back on track today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 06, 2012, 10:44:40 AM
I made pumpkin bread and pretty sure i forgot to put sugar un! Lol. Trouble cooking w a toddler, distraction! Hoping to run after DD's yoga and i drop her off.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 06, 2012, 11:50:17 AM
i feel like utter poop, i think it is the storm front moving in, but will go hop on the TM, even if i just walk.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on September 06, 2012, 12:19:22 PM
I've missed too many runs and eaten too much.  I'm up 1.5 lbs from Monday morning.  :(  I did run today though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 06, 2012, 12:52:30 PM
i did my pathetic run/walk. had to cover the mirror, i am due for aunt flo soon and look like a hog.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 06, 2012, 01:25:34 PM
You do not! Be nice to yourself, meri.  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 06, 2012, 03:24:31 PM
You do not! Be nice to yourself, meri.  :hug:
i know i should be, but i have just been in one of those ruts lately :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on September 06, 2012, 04:09:05 PM
We had a customer go on an insane rant about czars, socialism, hitler, and anything else she could think of. It was like she printed out all the email forwards and referred to each and every one.

It was frightening to see with my own eyes that there are CRAZY people out there.

And they vote.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 06, 2012, 04:31:50 PM
We had a customer go on an insane rant about czars, socialism, hitler, and anything else she could think of. It was like she printed out all the email forwards and referred to each and every one.

It was frightening to see with my own eyes that there are CRAZY people out there.

And they vote.
she must be on the same email ring as my neighbor  :eyeroll: though luckily i did not hear the word Hitler. UGH.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 06, 2012, 06:09:01 PM
one of my patients told me i looked good today and asked if i lost weight (gained 5lbs since i last saw her, but made me feel less blah today :) )
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 06, 2012, 08:48:35 PM
Yay for awesome patients!!! I slipped a bit the past couple of days. Back on the wagon tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on September 06, 2012, 11:48:39 PM
I slipped a bit the entire last WEEK!!

God I feel bloated and fat. I haven't weighed myself, but I know it's up. I have a little party tomorrow and a photo opening this weekend. But next week. BACK ON TRACK!!  :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 07, 2012, 07:19:02 AM
well, i got on the TM yesterday and should have no issue again today, so hoping i am back on my way to the routine. Date night Sat with DH (probably thai) and then sushi buffet (MoS better come with us!!!) Sunday so i am hoping to get atleast 10 miles in Sunday before that :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 07, 2012, 02:08:06 PM
My biggest problem (other than my ass and boobs) is that I just really, really, really resent the hell out of the fact that the only time I can work out is at 5 AM. No matter what, I just can't seem to get over that.

I suck.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 07, 2012, 02:41:52 PM
I resent a lot of things! I am very bitter that I just cannot eat a treat here and there and that i must watch every calorie that goes in my mouth or i will gain. I am so super healthy and it just is not fair that i cannot get my body to cooperate :D

5am is tough. I am not missing those Badwater training mornings, however, i think some of my problem is i went from 70-80 miles a week to nothing, LOL. I got on the TM today ,mostly walked, but i did it. When i sleep poorly, i get this horrible nerve pain in my foot when i run, so there it was today. It is definitely directly related to my cranky back and it gets crankier if i sleep poorly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on September 07, 2012, 03:04:21 PM
My biggest problem (other than my ass and boobs) is that I just really, really, really resent the hell out of the fact that the only time I can work out is at 5 AM. No matter what, I just can't seem to get over that.

I suck.

 :hug:

You don't suck.  If the only time I could go was at 5 am, I don't think it would ever happen.  I'd sooner go at midnight than 5 am.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on September 07, 2012, 03:06:08 PM
:hug:

You don't suck.  If the only time I could go was at 5 am, I don't think it would ever happen.  I'd sooner go at midnight than 5 am.

1.  Early morning working out is not my thing. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 07, 2012, 03:07:13 PM
Thanks, y'all. And meri, I resent all that other stuff, too, but I think the exercise at 5 AM is the one I resent the most.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 07, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
omg on Wednesdays and Fridays when I pick DD up after nap time, she is a monster, like a half asleep monster. She is laying on the couch screaming and crying for daddy. I even offered to take her out for froyo! WTF? I may start leaving her at school until afternoon snack (an hour later) because i cannot stand this crying and screaming for an hour every time  :argh: it is wayyyy too hot to go outside too, it is 94F according to my thermometer (probably closer to 90 in reality) and mega muggy, just really nasty out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 07, 2012, 03:49:39 PM
If it helps at all, it's 98 here. Couldn't go out even if we wanted to.  :o It should top out around 102 later this afternoon. :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 07, 2012, 03:56:30 PM
that is just nasty weather! sunday and monday look nice though! 74F!  DD finally stopped screaching, she is really a nightmare and her teachers were shocked when i told them how she acts when i bring her home. I think she is still half asleep, etc, though she does not do this when she is there until 5:30/6pm on Tues and Thurs. Ugh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 07, 2012, 04:00:44 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty fired up about this weekend. Tomorrow's high is only supposed to be 90!!!

And Reid's a total pill when he first wakes up most mornings. He'll call for us, we'll open the door to his room, and we're greeted with, "NO!! GO AWAY FROM REID! I DON'T *WANT* TO GO TO SCHOOL!!!!"
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 07, 2012, 04:09:20 PM
yep, like that. ugh. it is HORRIBLE. I am really considering keeping her at preschool/daycare an extra hour. I feel guilty cause i want to spend more time time with her, but what quality is it when all she does is scream like a banshee? i got her to watch some tv and calm down. I gotta get some cleaning done. Fun times.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 07, 2012, 04:48:23 PM
I'd see if you can try it for a while - if she's happier after staying an extra hour, go for it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 07, 2012, 04:55:41 PM
I'd see if you can try it for a while - if she's happier after staying an extra hour, go for it.
and then there is that mommy guilt, LOL!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on September 07, 2012, 05:21:57 PM
and then there is that mommy guilt, LOL!!

There is no need to feel guilty about your child not screaming.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 07, 2012, 06:12:12 PM
There is no need to feel guilty about your child not screaming.
True! I will see how the next couple weeks go and may consider for october.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 07, 2012, 08:20:35 PM
Which makes the Mommy Guilt worse - leaving her at school for an extra hour, or picking her up when you do now, knowing she's going to come home screaming and you're going to be cranky and resentful because of it?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 08, 2012, 07:04:41 AM
Which makes the Mommy Guilt worse - leaving her at school for an extra hour, or picking her up when you do now, knowing she's going to come home screaming and you're going to be cranky and resentful because of it?
very true! i am going to talk to them about keeping her there longer, not sure if i can before October. And aunt flo came a few days early. yipee skippy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on September 08, 2012, 07:53:27 AM
Hugs to all of you with screaming children. My 18 month old niece is visiting (along with her parents and my mother) and she is a very cheerful, happy, easy child. But when she is unhappy, we know about it!

So with the visit, I am now halfway through a period of giant non-austerity. To include a giant bowl of licorice (now half empty), stroopwafels (dutch cookies) and cocktails/long drinks pretty much every day. We eat more or less the same as we normally do though.

The weather is supposed to turn here (for the better!) tomorrow. About time. This nasty humid weather is not at all what I had in mind.

They will be here through the 16th and after that it is back to austerity and exercise. Well, back to austerity and adding exercise, as I wasn't doing any before...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 08, 2012, 08:37:27 AM
stroopwafels are a trendy ultrarunning food! LOL
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on September 08, 2012, 09:11:36 AM
stroopwafels are a trendy ultrarunning food! LOL

Ha, I didn't know that! That's funny.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on September 08, 2012, 09:21:25 AM
I love stroopwafels!

Decent weigh-in on Friday, despite some debauchery (and an awful lot of buffalo chicken dip!) over Labor Day weekend.

Later today I'll be running a 4-miler that I am woefully unprepared for. But it's all good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on September 09, 2012, 09:15:52 AM
and then there is that mommy guilt, LOL!!

Oh.. first things first.. no need to have any mommy guilt at all... You need to take care of yourself first before you can be there for the people around you.. If an extra hour to yourself makes you a happier, more sane person.. it's worth it.. Plus, it's not like she's not having fun there!  Cripes.. I used to send my kids to daycare sometimes even when I had a day off.. they liked it and I needed "me" time... Your new mantra should be "no more guilt"
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 09, 2012, 10:59:07 AM
Oh.. first things first.. no need to have any mommy guilt at all... You need to take care of yourself first before you can be there for the people around you.. If an extra hour to yourself makes you a happier, more sane person.. it's worth it.. Plus, it's not like she's not having fun there!  Cripes.. I used to send my kids to daycare sometimes even when I had a day off.. they liked it and I needed "me" time... Your new mantra should be "no more guilt"
working on it :)

ran 10 miles this morning in preparation for pigging out tonight :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 10, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
How are things going, everyone?

I'm hanging in there. Food is good, still a slacker on exercise.  :-\

We found out last night that we have a slow leak coming from the bottom of the toilet in our bathroom, so I'm probably going to have to take a day off of work to deal with that. Flippin' awesome. I can't begin to tell you how excited I am for that.  :eyeroll:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on September 10, 2012, 11:07:32 AM
How are you finding the 30DS debba?

My thyroid is fine they say so they don't know what is causing my heart to be all crazy. So I have to have more tests bleh.  Had to wear the holter monitor all last week.  I am allowed to work out but running is not going so well because I am dizzy and lightheaded all the time.  Also so so tired.  Frustrating.    :wah:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 10, 2012, 11:11:09 AM
I've been a complete slacker! Awful, I know. I really did enjoy it the few times I did it, but then I slept horribly all week last week, so I didn't get much exercise at all.  :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 10, 2012, 11:19:38 AM
Things are going better for me. I've been eating a little more and also excercising regularly. I ran 3 days last week, did tennis one day, did a dance class one day, and a spin class another day.

I've been doing my version of c25k which means I don't start at the beginning and I will run through the protocol twice. I use a podcast called "podrunner" which I like a lot. So, yesterday I ran the week 5, day 2, twice (four 8 minute running segments with 5 minute walk breaks in between). I was able to do that without too much difficulty so I think next week I'll move on to the week 6 mixes and then maybe move to running for 20 minute blocks. I think I need new shoes though. Surprisingly, my shins don't hurt... but everything else does. My hips, hamstrings, knees. Not the joints... more like the attachment points for the ilio tibial band, I would say.

I'm finding it's easier to eat now that we are "home" and we're not living out of suitcases and reusable grocery bags. I had gotten into the bad habit of eating very little and eating like crap when I did eat (a lot of chips & salsa and ice cream  ;)) so I'm trying to get back on the healthy bandwagon. I got the costco bundle of field roast sausages and have been eating those. They make a quick, filling, reasonable caloried meal. ...and eggs. I've been eating a lot of open faced egg sandwhiches. Yesterday I crushed half an avocado on toast, plus some tomato, onion, dijon mustard, a little cheese- under the broiler, and then topped with a fried egg.
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Post by: debbatx on September 10, 2012, 11:21:13 AM
I wish I liked eggs more.
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Post by: Run Amok on September 10, 2012, 12:10:27 PM
I grew up hating them and they still gross me out sometimes... but I've learned to mostly really like them. Which is a good thing because they are a cheap form of protein and I find them very filling and a very reasonable number of calories.
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Post by: debbatx on September 10, 2012, 12:13:34 PM
Yeah, I pretty much only like the scrambled rock-hard, preferably with cheese and tortilla chips crunched up with them. :) Or in a casserole or something. I never seem to make them very well, myself.  :grr:
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Post by: onawhim on September 10, 2012, 12:17:07 PM
I think most things are improved with a runny yolk egg on top  :drooling-5:
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Post by: debbatx on September 10, 2012, 12:24:13 PM
 :o
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Post by: merigayle on September 10, 2012, 02:20:32 PM
onawhim- i hope you get answers!

DH soaked a bag of dry black beans all weekend and never used them. I proceeded to make black bean soup this morning for lunch (we had a play date too, so lunch for 4) and guess what? they were black soy beans, not black beans  :o The bag DH took was in Chinese and he did not realize it and they were not round like the black soy beans i usually get. I pureed the soup and i think it is possible I can save it, but we will see. Luckily i had some pasta salad from yesterday and mac n cheese for the kids. whew.

Hoping to get back on track with exercise this week and be consistent.
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Post by: MiniDriver on September 10, 2012, 03:36:45 PM
I'm relieved I'm not the only one posting "trying to get back on track..."  I've had a bad spell of good week/bad week alternating.  Hoping to get momentum going so I get more good weeks in a row. 

I have come back to the conclusion that I really can't eat grain.  Bread, pasta, crackers, donuts, even oatmeal... they all lead me into cravings, binges, and out-of-control behavior.  I can handle small amounts of sugar, but grains send me spiraling out of control.    I think my multivitamin has enough b vitamins and the rest of my diet has enough fiber so I won't be missing much by eliminating grain.  I don't like taking an entire food group out of my diet, but I think I'm going to try to go a couple of months without it before thinking of slowly integrating it back. 

So frustrating because I love bread in all its forms.
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Post by: merigayle on September 10, 2012, 03:38:05 PM
it's worth a try, i suppose, mini! but all grains? even brown rice and quinoa? Me, carbs like bread and pasta, and sugar are my enemy. I was off them for a while and felt great, but sheesh, they are so g-d yummy.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on September 10, 2012, 05:27:29 PM
I am trying to get back on the working out wagon but somehow I hurt my back (absolutely no idea how) and it has been killing me for a week. It is making everything a little difficult.

I have never had back pain before so this is new to me.
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Post by: diablita on September 11, 2012, 12:39:32 AM
Hi there. Popping in from vacation in California. We're in San Diego area for the next few days, then back up to LA to see friends. Hope you're all doing well!
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Post by: MiniDriver on September 11, 2012, 08:53:06 AM
Have a great vacation, diablita!

mm, sorry your back is bad.  Do you know what you did to strain it?

I nearly succumbed to leftover pizza last night in a fit of premenstrual craving.  I nibbled on bit of cheese and filled up on pumpkin, so I escaped grain-free. 

I tried on my winter suits - the ones that haven't fit for 10+ years.  The jackets fit great, though the skirts are still too snug. They zip, but they are much too tight to wear.  By the time temps cool off enough to wear wool, I hope to be slim enough to wear them.  Inspiration!  I hope to have my winter go-to wardrobe be jeans/slacks with a suit jacket, saving the full suit for important meetings. 
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Post by: debbatx on September 11, 2012, 09:06:43 AM
Great job, Mini!!!

My back is tweaky, too, but right now it's only if I lean a certain way. Unfortunately, that "way" happens to be how I usually lean in to get stuff out of the fridge, which is making life fun. :eyeroll:
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Post by: merigayle on September 11, 2012, 10:02:42 AM
Great news mini. Debba- get to acupuncture!
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Post by: debbatx on September 11, 2012, 10:12:30 AM
I just went - this just happened. I can't afford to go again so soon. :(
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Post by: VP of Tea on September 11, 2012, 01:45:08 PM
MM, I hope your back gets back to normal soon. Onawhim, I hope they figure out what is wrong with you soon too! I don't think heart trouble actually qualifies for the wahmbulance though, I think you are entitled to complain about it, fo sho!

I have scaled things down on the food front the tiniest little bit (which means I don't have alcohol EVERY day, ha) and I am sort of looking forward to getting my shit together again next week when things are back to normal.

This gorgeous cool fall weather makes me want to go out and run, something that hasn't happened in far too long. Oh, and seeing my mother and the shape she is in is scaring me into wanting to work out too...  :yikes:  She is not in horrible shape, but has definitely gotten a lot heavier in the past 15 years or so, especially after she stopped smoking a couple of years ago.
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Post by: Bolloxd on September 11, 2012, 03:24:30 PM
Lots going in this thread... my best to all of you!

I've been lurking, but the new job has kept me pretty busy.  I like the job good enough, but my hours are causing some issues with DH's work.  Hopefully we can get the scheduling worked out since we need the extra money.  I'm on my feet for between 6-8 hours each day.  It is crazy busy working in a pharmacy!!  At least the day flies by but once I get home and slow down I am beyond exhausted.

Last week we went to a Foo Fighters concert in Charlotte during the DNC.  Packed and small venue, we were very close to the band, and it was excellent.  They decided to break their record for longest concert... yay!  3.5 hours of Foo Fighters :D  It was the 1st real date DH & I have had since the kids were born and it was awesome.

My running has been pretty good lately.  On Saturday I did a local 5K in 25:35 and won 2nd in my age group.  I'm hoping to do some more focused training, so Sunday was a hiking day, Monday was 5.5 miles, and today was intervals for 4.3 miles and a trail walk with the kids this morning for 1.3 miles.

Eating has been iffy...  I do not eat during work hours other than snacking on animal crackers or something similar.  Other meals are dependent on if I've been following my meal plan goal.  The scale has been slowly creeping up so I should probably cut back on the cupcakes. :-[

Hoping to get back to posting more in here but we'll see.... my hours this week are crazy. 
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Post by: debbatx on September 11, 2012, 03:46:59 PM
Glad the job's going well - and that's awesome about the 5K! Congrats!!!! DH would be incredibly jealous of you about the Foo Fighters show. :)
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Post by: merigayle on September 11, 2012, 04:41:11 PM
sounds like things are going well, Bolloxd :) DH and I just starting really going on dates, it only took 3+ years  :eyeroll:
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Post by: Bolloxd on September 12, 2012, 08:40:51 AM
Thanks. 

Meri, I think we are in a similar situation regarding DHs and dates.  DH is only barely comfortable with leaving them only because now they can communicate what they want....and forcibly at that!

I did a 4 mile run this morning.  Nice and brisk.  DH gets a massage today (mine is tomorrow) then I work 1-8.  I really need to make sure I eat well or will be starving later.
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Post by: debbatx on September 12, 2012, 09:52:16 AM
Yeah, so I had 3 alarms set for this morning to get me out of bed. Then Reid woke up at 12:30 when DH took the dog out - it freaked him out, he thought someone was coming in the house. So I ended up having to sleep in the recliner in his room.

I didn't get up.

So, so, so tired.
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Post by: merigayle on September 12, 2012, 10:30:59 AM
Dude! we had a rough night too. 12 midnight, she was too hot in her blanket sleeper feetie pjs she insisted on wearing  :eyeroll: and was SCREAMING for some milk which i explained we do not drink until morning as we brushed teeth. Total fit ensued. then middle of the night, maybe 2? she woke up screaming for a cookie she swore she lost in the bed. WTF? LOL! I hope to hop on the TM today, but not high hopes for anything magical :D
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Post by: Courtney on September 12, 2012, 10:32:56 AM
Yeah, so I had 3 alarms set for this morning to get me out of bed. Then Reid woke up at 12:30 when DH took the dog out - it freaked him out, he thought someone was coming in the house. So I ended up having to sleep in the recliner in his room.

I didn't get up.

So, so, so tired.

Give yourself a break, Debba!  You are going to be tired right now anyway, from what I understand.  Try to just maybe get up and move around today at work :)  I like to go the long way to talk to someone here, and I try to tell myself the extra steps are helping...
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Post by: Run Amok on September 12, 2012, 10:52:42 AM
Well shoot. Running has been kind of a bust this week. Last night was my night to run and DD didn't get home until late because of a mix up with scheduling at school. Then I met my dad for a beer and we talked until about 11. So, tonight was kinda rough. I have tennis tonight... maybe I'll try and squeeze a run in before class?  :-\
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Post by: debbatx on September 12, 2012, 11:16:55 AM
Thanks, Courtney. I know it's true, but I've been feeling okay and I want to get into the habit sooner rather than later - because later? It's going to be hard enough to get out of bed as it is. Unfortunately, my job is insanely sedentary. Maybe I can get something done tonight.
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Post by: merigayle on September 12, 2012, 11:34:02 AM
when i was pregnant, in the first trimester, i had to force myself to just walk. i was soooo exhausted.

in other news, my period may kill me. My periods have been fierce, but they are stop and go, which is soooo annoying. I bled thru super tampons 2 days ago, almost nothing yesterday and last night, and i get to work and i am thru a couple tampons already :( wtf? this is cycle day FIVE.
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Post by: Courtney on September 12, 2012, 11:39:19 AM
Thanks, Courtney. I know it's true, but I've been feeling okay and I want to get into the habit sooner rather than later - because later? It's going to be hard enough to get out of bed as it is. Unfortunately, my job is insanely sedentary. Maybe I can get something done tonight.

I wish we were officemates.  I'd drag you over to the gym with me.  :)
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on September 12, 2012, 11:41:05 AM
when i was pregnant, in the first trimester, i had to force myself to just walk. i was soooo exhausted.

in other news, my period may kill me. My periods have been fierce, but they are stop and go, which is soooo annoying. I bled thru super tampons 2 days ago, almost nothing yesterday and last night, and i get to work and i am thru a couple tampons already :( wtf? this is cycle day FIVE.

Have you ever checked to see if you have fibroid tumors?  My periods were so heavy I went through a super plus in 20 minutes some times.. Because what happens is the blood pools around the tumor on top or whatever.. and then all of a sudden decides to gush out. 
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Post by: debbatx on September 12, 2012, 11:49:17 AM
I wish we were, too! There's just a lot going on right now - Reid, me, I'm taking an 8-week online class right now, too, so that's taking up WAY more time than I thought it would, and DH's company is going through a merger, so he's crazy busy, too.  :panic:
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Post by: merigayle on September 12, 2012, 11:54:51 AM
Have you ever checked to see if you have fibroid tumors?  My periods were so heavy I went through a super plus in 20 minutes some times.. Because what happens is the blood pools around the tumor on top or whatever.. and then all of a sudden decides to gush out.
i just recently had a vaginal ultrasound and there were no fibroids (just a semi stuck IUD) on that.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on September 12, 2012, 01:02:06 PM
I sure bitch a lot in here but I am frustrated. Now on top of my back hurting I am sick. I wanted to call in sick today but my experiment just started up yesterday aand I have to fix some problems I encountered (I feel like an engineer trying to design this stuff). No exercise for me. :(
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Post by: debbatx on September 12, 2012, 01:18:08 PM
Aw, that sucks, MM! Feel better soon!
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Post by: merigayle on September 12, 2012, 01:23:26 PM
 :hug: MM!!!
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Post by: MiniDriver on September 13, 2012, 08:46:10 AM
Feel better soon, Magic!

My period has me feeling like the fat lady at the circus.  And of course that makes me want to eat.   >:(

I had to take a long hard look at the dress I was planning to wear today, and concluded it's too short.  2 inches above the knee just isn't work appropriate.  Sigh.  Maybe I can pull it off in winter with tights.
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Post by: Ice Cream on September 13, 2012, 10:49:08 AM
  2 inches above the knee just isn't work appropriate. 

really????
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Post by: Run Amok on September 13, 2012, 11:20:50 AM
Tennis last night. It's been cold and windy in the evenings. I think I need to get some wind-proof running tights. My running is suffering this week. Hopefully tonight.

Feel better soon, Magic!

My period has me feeling like the fat lady at the circus.  And of course that makes me want to eat.   >:(

I had to take a long hard look at the dress I was planning to wear today, and concluded it's too short.  2 inches above the knee just isn't work appropriate.  Sigh.  Maybe I can pull it off in winter with tights.

My period turns me into a bottomless pit. Whenever I find myself wanting to stuff everything in sight into my mouth, I realize that I'm pmsing. But, then, if I give into the urge I find that I spend the next 3 weeks eating like it's going out of style.
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Post by: Courtney on September 13, 2012, 11:26:10 AM
really????

I would wear that, in fact, I do wear that a lot.  But it probably depends on how tall a person is, etc.  There are dresses that I swear are the same length that don't seem work appropriate, and others do.  But certainly with tights in the winter, it should be fine.  :) 

Mini, your post made me thing of this funny thing I saw on Pinterest the other day!  :D

(http://media-cache-ec5.pinterest.com/upload/178173728978676580_qu1w4F4f_c.jpg)
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Post by: onawhim on September 13, 2012, 11:40:55 AM

My period turns me into a bottomless pit. Whenever I find myself wanting to stuff everything in sight into my mouth, I realize that I'm pmsing. But, then, if I give into the urge I find that I spend the next 3 weeks eating like it's going out of style.

Same here. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on September 13, 2012, 11:55:31 AM
Home sick today. Had to work late yesterday in order to pull it off but it is totally worth it. My head is killing me.
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Post by: debbatx on September 13, 2012, 12:17:17 PM
I miss playing tennis.
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Post by: rocketgirl on September 13, 2012, 12:25:23 PM
really????

1.  The dress I'm wearing today is about 3 inches above the knee.  Sitting, it's at mid-thigh.  I'm behind a desk all day.  It probably wouldn't be appropriate for sitdown meetings though. Although initially I had a training class I was going to at lunch that got cancelled.  I'm 5'8".  Everything is always a little short.  I don't worry to much about it.  Besides, the dress I'm wearing today is really fabulous.  It's a bit Jackie O and the fit is just perfect.  And I'm going to an alumni reception after work.

And now that you've had me looking at my legs, I realize they have a lot of bruises on them. 
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Post by: onawhim on September 13, 2012, 12:40:53 PM
Even in private school we were allowed 10cm above the knee for our kilts  :D
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Post by: MiniDriver on September 13, 2012, 01:59:27 PM
really????

For me, yes.  If I was still 35, I'd probably feel more comfortable in that length. 
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Post by: merigayle on September 13, 2012, 03:24:25 PM
I always thought if you stood up and put your arms at your side, it should be below your fingertips.

I met MoS for lunch and pigged out on salad bar, yes that is possible, but atleast i found the FF dressing this time.
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Post by: debbatx on September 13, 2012, 03:52:28 PM
I've totally pigged out at a salad bar before.
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Post by: cgraz on September 13, 2012, 04:17:19 PM
For me, yes.  If I was still 35, I'd probably feel more comfortable in that length. 

Same here - without tights that feels too short to me. I'm not that tall, but still...when I sit down it would definitely be too short. But with tights and boots, probably fine. I walk up and down school staircases a lot, am in and out of the car all day, and am sitting in classrooms and moving around with students. No way I'd take a chance of flashing anyone behind me, below me on the stairs, etc.
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Post by: debbatx on September 13, 2012, 05:49:59 PM
So, question for y'all.

If you missed it, I'm knocked up - it's very early, but I'm very definitely knocked up.

I'm still crazy overweight, though, so apparently my goal during pregnancy is to maintain in the first trimester, and then gain 11-20 pounds in the 2nd and 3rd.

I've never maintained in my *life.* Right now, I'm still following WW, but I'm not sure if I can switch to maintenance mode for the duration of the pregnancy or what.

Any ideas on how to handle this? I gained.... uhhhh.... 35 pounds with Reid. A lot of it was fluid, but I can also say I wasn't making the best possible choices. I love that websites say "maintain!" but then don't give any tips on how to do that!

Help!
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Post by: merigayle on September 13, 2012, 06:28:13 PM
I gained 38lbs with DD eating really well and exercising regularly. My friend gains about 60-80 lbs per pregnancy, no matter what she did.
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Post by: debbatx on September 13, 2012, 07:26:48 PM
Yeah, but I'm way fatter than you, since you are not fat, so I have to be extra-careful with the weight. :-\
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Post by: merigayle on September 13, 2012, 07:34:43 PM
oh i know, i am just saying, sometimes it is not in your control no matter how hard you try, so don't be too hard on yourself.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on September 13, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Officially you cannot continue ww during pregnancy but that doesn't mean you cannot follow a modified points plan.
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Post by: debbatx on September 13, 2012, 08:02:23 PM
Yeah, I know I can't totally control it, but I can at least make the best possible choices and *try.* I mean, if I gain because of fluid, well... fine. I'll be curious this time, actually. Last time I was pregnant during the 2nd hottest summer on record - at the time it was the hottest - so I'm positive that had a lot to do with the fluid gains.

MM, I know I can't officially continue, but do you know if I switched to Maintenance, would it let me switch back later? I only do online, so I'm wondering if that would work.
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Post by: merigayle on September 13, 2012, 08:19:47 PM
Yeah maybe the heat was a contributing factor! Mine was all fat and i have the butt to prove it :)
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Post by: debbatx on September 13, 2012, 08:47:12 PM
Mine was a LOT of fluid. Seriously, I puffed up like a blowfish while pregnant, and the nurse was always nervous when she saw my ankles. But after Reid was born, I dropped 20 pounds in like a week.
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Post by: caito on September 13, 2012, 10:44:13 PM
Congrats Debba!!!!!!!!!!      :bouquet:

Can you ask your MD for advice? 
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Post by: Clementine on September 13, 2012, 11:34:18 PM
Congrats Debba!!!!!!!!!!      :bouquet:

Can you ask your MD for advice?


Or ask your MD to refer you to a Registered Dietician?

In general, MDs receive woefully little training in nutrition so what they know is often dependent on how much they've read up on their own.   :nono:
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Post by: nadra24 on September 14, 2012, 12:15:42 AM

Or ask your MD to refer you to a Registered Dietician?

In general, MDs receive woefully little training in nutrition so what they know is often dependent on how much they've read up on their own.   :nono:

This.  And yet, nobody listens to the dietitian if they have suggestions the doctor didn't recommend!  >:( 

Debba, I'm not completely familiar with WW, but I think that you could definitely still use the points system.  A good place to start would be to eat the number of points you get during maintenance and go with that during the first trimester.  Keep an eye on what your weight is doing.  If you're losing weight on maintenance-level points, then take a look at how many extra points you'd get for breastfeeding and cut that in half.  Generally speaking, pregnancy requires an extra 300 calories per day and breastfeeding requires an extra 500 calories, so even though the math isn't exact that would give you a pretty good idea of how many points you'd need.

PM me if you have more specific questions, since counseling pregnant women about their eating is a big part of what I do all day.  And because I don't think I said it in the other thread, congrats and hooray!
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Post by: Ice Cream on September 14, 2012, 07:02:33 AM
Generally speaking, pregnancy requires an extra 300 calories per day


This site claims 200 extra calories in the last trimester...  That's a big difference from 300 every day over the course of a pregnancy.

http://www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/nutrition/caloriesadayexpert/ (http://www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/nutrition/caloriesadayexpert/)

and this site claims a bit higher:

http://www.eatright.org/Public/content.aspx?id=10933#.UFMQZI6UxUQ (http://www.eatright.org/Public/content.aspx?id=10933#.UFMQZI6UxUQ)

but both agree on the first trimester without increased calorie intake.
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Post by: merigayle on September 14, 2012, 07:39:58 AM
ugh. We had pukefest 2012 last night. DD threw up countless times. I have atleast 6 loads of laundry to do today. I got maybe 3-4 hours sleep so i am betting there will be no run for me today, and i did so good this week! oh well.
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Post by: debbatx on September 14, 2012, 09:00:54 AM
Thanks for the congrats, caito and Nadra!!

And Nadra, the 300 a day is what I'd heard, too, but isn't that for someone already at a healthy weight? I'm not, that's the thing - I'm fat. To be blunt, based on BMI, I'm obese. I'm otherwise in good health, though, and Reid's pregnancy went really well, but I'd still like to at least *try* to do better this time.

It's definitely something I'll talk to the midwives about (if they accept me), or my doctor if I go back there.

I think the extra 300-400 cals only translates to 3 or 4 more points, and then you have the weekly allowance and any activity points (a big fat ZERO so far!). So if I spread all that out over the week, it would be... um.... 40 or so points? So far this week, I've been adding an extra glass of milk with my prenatal (because it's disgusting), and a bit more food at dinner if I'm hungry. Right now, I'm down a bit from last week's weigh-in, but have held pretty steady over the last few days.

I'll have to see if the plan will let me switch to maintenance.
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Post by: Courtney on September 14, 2012, 12:05:31 PM
I think the consensus is that a point is now about 40 calories on WW...  It used to be like 50-75, but with the new system it went down.  At least that is what I've read. 

If you are trying to maintain I'd add on like 5 points to your regular amount for a couple weeks, and see how that goes.  Of course, in theory, you should do that with good, wholesome foods, not ice cream.  :D  But we all know what I'd end up choosing! 


So...  I saw some pics of me in Napa, and me no likey.  It's like, I like headshots, because I don't mind how my face looks.  But there is one where I'm sitting, and apparently that is not flattering.  GAH. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 14, 2012, 12:28:18 PM
I feel your pain Courtney ...I don't like a lot of my wedding pics. My problem now seems to be my arms
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 14, 2012, 03:00:45 PM
Oooh, that's good to know, Courtney - thanks! 5 points seems reasonable. I'll see what that gets me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 14, 2012, 04:23:20 PM
arm are probably the hardest area to fix, imo, after the lower belly! LOL.

just took a 45 minute nap with DD and she is still asleep and she slept the whole way home. She is totally feeling fine and came to work with me and had wayyyyyyyy too much fun :D for some reason, about half my patients came with their spouses today and she had lots of people to entertain :D And one patient, speaking of a discussion from earlier in the week, had uterine cancer and chemo and DD said she was a man, not a woman, because she had little hair, OMG.  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 14, 2012, 05:13:05 PM
I feel your pain Courtney ...I don't like a lot of my wedding pics. My problem now seems to be my arms

Today I'm wearing this purple cape/poncho/thing and it's great because it hides all my "problem" areas.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on September 15, 2012, 12:29:47 AM


If you missed it, I'm knocked up - it's very early, but I'm very definitely knocked up.


Wha!!???
 :rah:

That's great news! Wow.. I need to come around more often.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 15, 2012, 09:41:25 PM
Hee! Thanks, tricia! The semi-big announcement was in the procreative thread, and it wasn't really much of an announcement, LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on September 16, 2012, 03:59:50 PM
Take Nadra up on her offer, debba!

I am starving today.  I just want to eat and eat and never stop.  My period's over so I can't use the hormonal excuse. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 16, 2012, 04:08:52 PM
I finally went back to a ww meeting today. I have gained 9 pounds. :( Gahhh...back to counting points.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 16, 2012, 04:15:46 PM
You can do it, MM!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 16, 2012, 07:57:50 PM
you go MM!!!

I ate well all weekend, but went to the church fair and went to get DD a cookie at the church lady bake sale and they sent me home with a bag of cookies as they were closing up for the end of the fair  :e) :o :e)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 16, 2012, 08:54:23 PM
Ok so today
Breakfast: 1 egg, 3 egg whites, lowfat cheese and 2 slices of toast = 8 pts
Lunch: salad = 6 points
Snack: watermelon = 0 points
Dinner: Filet mignon, asparagus, zucchini, and grean beans = 13 points (12 points for the steak)  :o
Dessert: grilled apples with whipped cream = 1 point


There goes all my points  :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 17, 2012, 12:40:50 AM
MM, why the sad face? That actually looks pretty decent. Day one, on plan, under your belt.  :banana:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 17, 2012, 07:24:43 AM
i ate a lot of WW 0 point soup when i did it because it just filled up the hunger with zero points.

oh, going to prob take DD to an Amish restaurant while out at Thomas the Train today, so after that back to good eating :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on September 17, 2012, 07:47:33 AM
MM, is that the new points plus? What did you put on your salad that made it 6 points? That's not a bad day of points for a weekend day - that's usually when I splurge and dip into the weekly pool. And I am all about working in activity points, even if it's just a couple for walking.

I am learning to load up on fruit & veggies to make lower-point portions feel more filling. My new thing for packing lunches is Musselman's applesauce - the unsweetened one is zero points. So if I need a fruit to fill out my lunch items, I have that, even if I haven't shopped and have no fresh produce around.

I also got my bento box lunch containers and they are small! So I think I am going to have some well-organized and portion-controlled lunches this fall.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on September 17, 2012, 09:19:05 AM
That looks like an excellent diet, MM!   I love watermelon.

cgraz, those bento boxes are tiny!  My lunch salad is about twice that size.  Most of the artful pictures I've seen of bentos have them crammed full of goodies.


I'm feeling surly and unmotivated this morning.  I was really good all last week, only had a few small servings of grains (2 sushi meals), and managed to lose 2 lbs to kick-start the WLC.  But it was a bit disheartening how hard I had to work and how little I ate to lose 2 measley pounds.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 17, 2012, 09:56:45 AM
The little bugger was craving protein this weekend. Good Lord. I had a cheeseburger for dinner Saturday night (not much of a lunch on Saturday - I was at my cousin's baby shower), migas for brunch yesterday, and another goddamn burger last night with mac and cheese as my side.

Between the sodium and the massive points overage, yeah, I gained a bit. I'm not super worried, but I do need to get things under control.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 17, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
MM, is that the new points plus? What did you put on your salad that made it 6 points? That's not a bad day of points for a weekend day - that's usually when I splurge and dip into the weekly pool. And I am all about working in activity points, even if it's just a couple for walking.

My salad had 1 serving of canned crab, a couple  slices iof avocado, and one serving of goat cheese and I sprayed it with olive oil. That was six points. Honestly I hate points plus...I like the fruit is free but I get nowhere near as much food as I got on the old plan. Every time I try to follow it now I cannot stay on points...I am just starving to death even with the massive amount of veggies I eat. I think its why I keep quitting this time around.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 17, 2012, 10:52:21 AM
MM, are you eating your activity and weekly points?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 17, 2012, 11:07:13 AM
MM, are you eating your activity and weekly points?

I generally eat my weekly points but not exercise points. If I eat both I don't lose.

I think my real problem is how low carb the plan has become. Stuff that used to be one point is now three but I sure as hell don't have three times the number of points I used to get.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on September 17, 2012, 11:10:46 AM
My salad had 1 serving of canned crab, a couple  slices iof avocado, and one serving of goat cheese and I sprayed it with olive oil. That was six points. Honestly I hate points plus...I like the fruit is free but I get nowhere near as much food as I got on the old plan. Every time I try to follow it now I cannot stay on points...I am just starving to death even with the massive amount of veggies I eat. I think its why I keep quitting this time around.

How many points are you allotted per day? (Does it vary by person or is it standard? I didn't know if you'd have the same as me.) Because just doing one or two little things, like picking the avocado or the goat cheese but not both, or the eggs without cheese, etc. can help. I found that I ended up trimming out some little piddly one- or two-point add-ons to meals, sandwiches, salads, etc. and it helped me stay within overall. They were things I didn't really miss - one slice of cheese on a sandwich isn't going to make or break it for me.

But still, the points for that day you listed seem great - well within bounds of a decent day, especially if you did any walking or other exercise. For my daily points (which I have adjusted a little) it would be spot-on, without any activity points or anything.

I did find when I first started that I felt my points didn't get me very far and I was hungry, and I hated to dip into the weekly points - so I budgeted myself two more points per day and I have still been losing at a decent rate, but I feel much more satisfied with just a little more leeway. My sister made a suggestion that I found also works well for me - she said she eats her activity points but not her weekly points, if she wants to lose. If she eats her weekly points, then she just maintains. That's about how it goes for me too.

Then again, I was not at all familiar with the old system, so I didn't have to adjust to any limitations other than just getting on the program in the first place.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 17, 2012, 11:21:24 AM
Can you fin the old plan on ebay or something?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on September 17, 2012, 11:26:13 AM
Yeah if the old plan worked better you should go back to that.  I bet it is online somewhere. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 17, 2012, 11:29:37 AM
Yeah if the old plan worked better you should go back to that.  I bet it is online somewhere. 

Well I would in a second but I live with another person who has never followed it and has followed the new plan. I don't really see that working out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 17, 2012, 11:30:17 AM
cgraz, the points you get are based on your height and current weight, so it varies from person to person. I don't want to talk about how many points I get because I'm reasonably tall and fat. :)

MM, I'm assuming you've done all the back to basics stuff like double-checking serving sizes and things? Can you switch up the kinds of carbs you're eating? I've been trying to ditch sandwiches for lunch in favor of something with protein and a lower-point grain. Last week it was couscous chickpea salad.

Can you eat some of your activity points and not all?

How/why would it matter if you and Antag are on different plans? I mean.... no matter what, he's going to get a different number of points, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 17, 2012, 12:17:25 PM
cgraz, the points you get are based on your height and current weight, so it varies from person to person. I don't want to talk about how many points I get because I'm reasonably tall and fat. :)

MM, I'm assuming you've done all the back to basics stuff like double-checking serving sizes and things? Can you switch up the kinds of carbs you're eating? I've been trying to ditch sandwiches for lunch in favor of something with protein and a lower-point grain. Last week it was couscous chickpea salad.

Can you eat some of your activity points and not all?

How/why would it matter if you and Antag are on different plans? I mean.... no matter what, he's going to get a different number of points, right?

It matters at my house, because DH is all "I'm eating a 1 pt granola bar!" and for me, on the new points, it's 3, and it makes me want to punch someone.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 17, 2012, 12:23:14 PM
Hah! Okay, that's a fair point. :D

Ugh, I forgot, on top of everything else I ate this weekend, I had a slice of wheat bread slathered with peanut butter after we got home from the grocery store.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on September 17, 2012, 12:23:56 PM
Doh!

Plus, the new apps make it easy to track everything and they are based on the new program. I love the scanner, even though I'm sure it makes me look like a dork in the grocery store.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 17, 2012, 12:36:26 PM
It matters at my house, because DH is all "I'm eating a 1 pt granola bar!" and for me, on the new points, it's 3, and it makes me want to punch someone.  :D 

Exactly...plus I make the meals so I would have to calculate it both ways.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 17, 2012, 12:42:05 PM
He can calculate his own damn food.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 17, 2012, 12:45:09 PM
He can calculate his own damn food.

I have tried this tactic and he just bitches about how is he supposd to calculate it when he doesn't know what I put in it. Sometimes this is more valid than other times though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 17, 2012, 12:46:17 PM
Oh, FFS.  :eyeroll: (at him, not you)

Don't you have an ingredients list? Or are you the kind of person of whom I am jealous - those who can cook without recipes?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 17, 2012, 12:51:25 PM
Oh, FFS.  :eyeroll: (at him, not you)

Don't you have an ingredients list? Or are you the kind of person of whom I am jealous - those who can cook without recipes?

I almost never use recipes...I cook on the fly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 17, 2012, 01:00:15 PM
Dang, I'm jealous. I can't do that. Still, there has to be something in the WW database that approximates what you're making.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 17, 2012, 03:10:39 PM
Hah! Okay, that's a fair point. :D

Ugh, I forgot, on top of everything else I ate this weekend, I had a slice of wheat bread slathered with peanut butter after we got home from the grocery store.  :eyeroll:

God, out of all the things I gave up when I went gluten free, peanut butter slathered wheat bread has to be at the top of the list of things I miss most.  There is just really no substitute for it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 17, 2012, 04:08:57 PM
went to the Amish smorgasborg (sp?) and did not do too much damage, i could have been happy with just bread (they had a whole bar of fresh baked amish breads, like a dozen or more kinds!) and dessert :D DD dropped a pretzel in the chocolate fountain and is on their poop list now :D They were not happy. I had a big plate of salad first, then just some sides (veggies, mashed potatoes, etc) and then a roll and dessert. I took only a few bites of cake and left the rest. And now back to reality and trying hard to lose some poundage. I am aiming for my next big race in early December. Guess i should tell DH  :sneaking:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on September 18, 2012, 08:41:57 AM
Today I'm wearing the dress I decided was too short last week. Fuck it.

The last time I wore these boots I was in an ambulance.  I've discovered a few more tears than were evident in the dark bedroom this morning, so I'm shopping for a new pair.  Zappos, here I come!

In the latest geographic, there's a blurb on a chinese herb blue hydrangea or something that apparently does all kind of wonderful things - reduces inflammation, helps with weight loss, it might even help with some kinds of cancers - because it stimulates the body's starvation response.  I wonder if low-calorie diets do the same.

 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 18, 2012, 10:26:59 AM
Yay for new boots!

I've been TOTALLY off track with my food since Saturday. Ugh. I've got to get things under control. I'm going out to dinner tonight, though - Mexican food - and on Friday, DH and I leave for our anniversary trip in New Orleans. And if I have to give up wine and coffee, I'm damn well eating dessert, muffalettas, and beignets. Within reason. Somehow.

UGH.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on September 18, 2012, 10:49:17 AM
I'm back on track (I think). Even though I still have almost two packs of stroopwafels in my pantry and they do get stale over time! I'll just have to foist them on my co-workers...

I started this morning by having breakfast again. I find it really helps me make it to lunch. I don't do anything special for dinner (I eat whatever DH feeds me and it's no hardship, trust me!) but I am laying off the soda, wine and snackage.

I need to start packing fruit or yogurt or something for my mid-afternoon snack. And I probably should run...

Hang in there Debba and MM!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 18, 2012, 11:44:55 AM
Thanks, VP!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on September 18, 2012, 07:33:05 PM
Holy shit Debba!  Just read you're all knocked up, Congratulations!!  What is your due date ?
Mini, new boots always brighten the day.  I'm sure you are rocking the dress
VP,  good job on breakfast...that is one of my pitfalls.  Starting the day off right is the way to do it.


So my running has slacked the last few days because of the crazy work hours and my need to sleep to make up for the long days.  I did a poor 2.4 today.  The scale has gone up 5lbs from my usual weight.  I thought and hoped it was a fluke.  Sigh.  Must get back on track.

Also had a shit ton of family drama.  Cannot believe I'm related most days.  Little brother 1 (with recent baby and cheating gf) checked himself into the hospital to detox from drugs.  My dad went psycho and accused mom of cheating because his dead mother told him so in a dream...WTF!  So mom moved out and apparently still has the responsibility of caring for my 10yo nephew because ex-SIL is a shit parent.

Fun times!


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 18, 2012, 07:41:17 PM
omg! family drama is the worst  :hug:

my weight is up. I have been eating ok, but today i had a cookie on my way out the door, and then i had two more :( they were so good. This is why i cannot have anything yummy in my house.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 18, 2012, 08:00:22 PM
:hugs: Bolloxd and MM

Debba, I am SO happy for you!!!!!


And count me in the 'not feeling well and feeling heavy' group thanks to some bug we picked up on the way home + ovulating + haven't had time to run in a few days.  I hope tomorrow will be better.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on September 18, 2012, 08:21:26 PM
This site claims 200 extra calories in the last trimester...  That's a big difference from 300 every day over the course of a pregnancy.

http://www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/nutrition/caloriesadayexpert/ (http://www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/nutrition/caloriesadayexpert/)

and this site claims a bit higher:

http://www.eatright.org/Public/content.aspx?id=10933#.UFMQZI6UxUQ (http://www.eatright.org/Public/content.aspx?id=10933#.UFMQZI6UxUQ)

but both agree on the first trimester without increased calorie intake.

So I'm just getting caught up on this thread after the weekend.  Re-reading my post, I can see that I wasn't very clear on that.  During the first trimester you don't really need extra calories (unless you're losing weight, but that's a special circumstance).  The first website you posted is from the UK, and I wonder if they use different maternal weight gain grids over there than we do.  (You wouldn't think so with something like this, but you never know).  The weight gain grids we use in the US recommend a 1-5 lb wt gain in the first trimester, and then a steady weight gain during the second and third trimesters.  That would be why we recommend increased calories during the last two trimesters, but if the UK has different charts they might have different recommendations.

The thing about calorie recommendations is that they're all estimates anyway.  If you're not gaining enough weight (at any stage of the pregnancy), you should try increasing how much you're eating.  If you're gaining too much, try cutting back.  It's kind of the same thing with weight in general, not just during pregnancy.  I put the numbers out there just as a place to start, and I wouldn't be too surprised if they needed tweaking.


And Nadra, the 300 a day is what I'd heard, too, but isn't that for someone already at a healthy weight? I'm not, that's the thing - I'm fat. To be blunt, based on BMI, I'm obese. I'm otherwise in good health, though, and Reid's pregnancy went really well, but I'd still like to at least *try* to do better this time.

It's definitely something I'll talk to the midwives about (if they accept me), or my doctor if I go back there.
 

I haven't ever heard of a different calorie recommendation for overweight women, though it is probably a little lower.  Some of the weight that you gain during pregnancy is fluids, some is baby, and some is extra body weight stores to support a year or more of breastfeeding (since that's the biological design, I don't mean that as a judgement on someone's breastfeeding decisions in this day and age).  I have no idea how many calories you need for each thing, so I'd kind of just go with Courtney's recommendation of adding 5 points at a time and see what your weight does.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on September 18, 2012, 08:25:48 PM
So Kenyan convinced me to join the WLC.  I am not sure how this is going to go, but I'm glad that he's doing it.  Of course, he's lost about 8 lbs in the last 3-4 weeks, just by adding a little bit of regular exercise and cutting back on regular Gatorade and regular soda (I only buy him G2 and diet soda).  He's also eating better now, since I always make a veggie or a salad with my meals and he's eating real food instead of ordering pizza or getting a burger.  I, on the other hand, have gained those 8 lbs since we got married, because I am not as conscious about portion control now that I'm cooking for two as I was when I was just cooking for myself.  We'll see how it goes!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 18, 2012, 10:12:22 PM
Thanks for the tips, Nadra!!

And thanks for the congrats, Diablita and Bolloxd! Assuming all goes well ( :fingers: :fingers: :fingers:) I'm due May 22nd or so.

I only have 2 days left to get up this week - tomorrow and Thursday. We leave Friday for New Orleans, and there's no way I'm getting up at 5 AM while I'm there. I should suck it up and get up the next two days, right? I've been eating for 10 lately. TOTALLY out of control, and honestly, it's more of a stress thing, I think. I've got DH, Reid, work, the baby, this trip coming up, and I'm taking a class this semester.  :panic:

Yeah, I need to suck it up and get up. And start eating right and stop eating junk just because I can. I know there's nothing I can do about gaining fluid or baby weight, but I sure as hell don't need any extra body fat. If that's all you needed to succeed at breastfeeding, I could breastfeed triplets for a year right now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 20, 2012, 10:58:24 AM
It's funny... I feel like I'm learning to eat all over again. My appetite has somewhat returned and I'm actually happy with my weight right now so I want to avoid gaining much (though I dont have a scale). My plan is to use running to help avoid gain... and of course diet. But, I'm well aware that if I'm going to actually start eating normal quantities of food, I need to lay off the beer, nachos, and ice cream. ;) I've already put my partner in crime on notice that our evenings a the rowie are drawing to a close.

Anyway...

I eat a lot of these: http://74.220.207.120/~fieldroa/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Field-Roast-Saus-SL-6-081.pdf (http://74.220.207.120/~fieldroa/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Field-Roast-Saus-SL-6-081.pdf) I buy them at coscto because I get one package of each. Each one weighs in at around 250 calories with a moderate amount of fat and a decent amount of protein. I find them pretty filling. I like them because they are tasty, easy, and don't taste at all like meat.  ;)

Yesterday, I had an italian one as a late lunch with dijon, sour kraut, and a wedge of cream cheese. For dinner I had a chipotle one with a dollop of sour cream, 1/4 of a huge avocado, tomatoes, lettuce, red onion and cucumber. I also had a 200 calorie protein bar thingy. So, not too bad.

I also eat a lot of egg sandwiches- easy and filling. I usually do two eggs, a slice of bread, and a slice of cheese.

What I haven't been great about is actually cooking dinner. Taco night has been on the board for two weeks and we have yet to eat any tacos. Ditto for pizza night. Ah well... baby steps.

I had tennis last night- but right now I feel like tennis lessons aren't much of a workout. I was going to run after but ended up chatting with one of the other students instead. Tonight I'm hoping to run, although thurs evenings have been the hard run for me to squeeze in... and I need new shoes. So...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 20, 2012, 11:15:49 AM
I'm going to do the best I can in New Orleans this weekend, and when we get back, I'm getting my eating back on track, because this is ridiculous. I'm like a damned bottomless pit right now, but I need to be filling the pit with healthy food, not junk. Ugh. And I put DH on notice this morning that yes, I'm going to start walking in the mornings when we get back and yes, that means the alarms will be going off early, and I'm tired of feeling like I'm causing problems by wanting to work out, so he's going to have to suck it up and deal.

There's a woman I work with right now who's pregnant - she's due early November. She's obese, and was well before she got pregnant. She started having contractions last week. I talked to her yesterday - we're friendly - and she said she has gestational diabetes (but can't be bothered to check her blood sugar, even though "she's following the diet"), is on restricted activity, and being treated for preeclampsia. Um, no thanks. I refuse to let that be me, which means I need to get my shit together. She would be on bedrest, but she can't afford to take early leave, because our maternity policies suck, and out our level, the pay is shit. And I don't think her husband is working.

No, no, and no. That.will.not.be.me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 20, 2012, 11:28:18 AM
that will not be you!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on September 20, 2012, 11:35:57 AM
Sounds like a great motivation Debba.

RA glad the appetite is coming back and you're happy with your weight. 


My big run yesterday was cancelled due to more family drama.  I mean FFS!!  Dad was knocking on the door early yesterday asking DH for help setting up his new internet and phone stuff.  So we went over and he's taken down all pics on the wall with mom in them.  He is obsessed with finding Indian artifacts so was showing us lots of rocks he found.  Normal for him but OTT yesterday.  Then detoxed brother was there and mentioned jail time for 5 years but couldn't talk to me about it without crying so I dunno what for or any other details.


Sheesh.

I've got a late night at work this evening so did a 1.5 mile trail walk with the kids this morning in hopes they will nap today. 

BBQ pork in the crockpot for tonight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 20, 2012, 11:37:43 AM
I put DH on notice this morning that yes, I'm going to start walking in the mornings when we get back and yes, that means the alarms will be going off early, and I'm tired of feeling like I'm causing problems by wanting to work out, so he's going to have to suck it up and deal.

 :fiery:

Do you think it might help you to follow the GD diet now? I know a few people who've done that just as a way to have a healthy eating plan to follow that is approved for preggos.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 20, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
RA, it might. I should look into it; that's actually a really good idea. Duh. If it's super-complicated, I'll do the best I can, because we (DH and I) won't be able to handle making a separate meal just for me. It's hard enough to get dinner on the table in the limited time we have anyway.

And Bolloxd, holy hell. Sorry about all the drama!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 20, 2012, 12:00:13 PM
Wow bolloxed, that's nuts!

Debba, I don't think it's crazy complicated or anything. I think it's pretty much a typical healthy eating plan (whole foods, avoid processed carbs, etc). I was thinking the recommendations as far as how much to eat might be helpful though. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on September 20, 2012, 12:33:49 PM
If DH can't handle making two separate meals, then everyone is eating what Mama needs to eat to ensure the healthiest pregnancy and baby possible! 

I will write you note if you need it.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 20, 2012, 12:37:26 PM
Can you address that note to my toddler, caito? Because he doesn't give a shit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 20, 2012, 12:43:34 PM
i had my best run today in a long time. whew. still not great, but feel the fitness coming back. planning on a 100 miler in December  :panic:

Debba-- Brewer's Diet i think it is called?

Bolloxed--  :e) and  :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 20, 2012, 12:45:48 PM
Oh God, is the Brewer Diet the one that makes you eat an egg every damn day? No. Noooooooo. I hate that stinkin' thing. :)

I looked at the GD diet and it's pretty much how I eat now, so.... eh. I just need to eat a few extra almonds or something.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on September 20, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
If DH can't handle making two separate meals, then everyone is eating what Mama needs to eat to ensure the healthiest pregnancy and baby possible! 

I will write you note if you need it.  :D

... oh, and this also. But, I get it. DH and DD often wouldn't touch my "diet" food (which was really just healthy basic food). But, DH was perfectly comfortable cooking them a meal and I'd just eat on my own.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 20, 2012, 01:15:31 PM
We try really hard to do the family meal time thing, and the vast majority of our meals are healthy. I can make a few tweaks here and there. The reality is, for me, it's all about exercise. I know that's not how it's "supposed" to work, but... that's how it is for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 20, 2012, 01:16:16 PM
I don't cook for DH, he will eat what i make or fend for himself. DD either eats what i eat (or a variation of it) or something simple to prepare, so yes, sometimes we are eating three different meals, but i really only put effort into one meal. I also make DD a large amount of food she can eat over several days. Tues and Thurs i work later and get home around 7:30pm and he always makes her pasta, or nothing and expects me to feed her. Or last week fed her very expired hummus and i was up all night cleaning vomit  :eyeroll:

I do not think the Brewer's diet has you eat an egg, but i am not really sure!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 20, 2012, 01:38:42 PM
I just remember my doula was all hung up on one specific diet and I got lectured every time I said I wasn't following it.  :eyeroll:

Generally, our diet really is pretty darn healthy. Perfect? No. But honestly, not that shabby. Weight loss, for me, is all about exercise. And I have been a giant stressball, pretty much since the second line showed up on that test. Not because of the baby, just that things are super-busy right now. And when I'm this stressed? I eat junk. When I'm *pregnant* and this stressed?  :panic: :panic: :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 20, 2012, 05:05:01 PM
Hey all...I am doing ok. I am down this week but that is probably back on the wagon weight and not real weight. I have been struggling with hunger but I will figure it out. I know that in order to be a healthy weight I pretty much have to be hungry all the time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 20, 2012, 05:12:02 PM
Back on the wagon weight is real weight!!! And your body will adjust - give it a little time. I'm pretty much going to have to detox next week after this week and this coming weekend. Oof. It could get ugly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 20, 2012, 06:27:17 PM
Hey all...I am doing ok. I am down this week but that is probably back on the wagon weight and not real weight. I have been struggling with hunger but I will figure it out. I know that in order to be a healthy weight I pretty much have to be hungry all the time.
yep, i am always hungry if i am in weight loss mode. ugh. no fun.

debba- http://www.drbrewerpregnancydiet.com/ (http://www.drbrewerpregnancydiet.com/)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 20, 2012, 10:00:53 PM
Yeah, that's the one!! Sorry, there's no way in hell I can eat 2 eggs every day. Or liver. Other than that, I already eat a lot of those things, so...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on September 20, 2012, 10:28:34 PM
Poor little David got his first bee sting today.  It was a completely unprovoked attack from a honeybee.... I saw the whole thing.  We gave him antihistamine within seconds to be safe.  He seems fine now but was not happy at the time.  I realized another part of my issues lately has been a sinus headache that has lasted an entire week and I should have started my period on Tuesday...PMS is annoying.

Looking forward to the weekend!!
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Post by: diablita on September 20, 2012, 11:09:59 PM
aw, poor little guy
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on September 21, 2012, 09:26:11 AM
Owie, poor David. Are you sure it was a honey bee though? They are usually not very stingy, though at the end of the summer, they are typically more ornery than in spring.

Yesterday was an ok day. I have my 800 calorie sandwich from Panera for lunch (I kid you not, it lists that on the menu) but because I skipped dinner and just had a small yogurt when I got home after working late, it worked out ok.

And I'm feeding my customers stroopwafels to get rid of them (the stroopwafels, that is). But only the customers I like get one! :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on September 21, 2012, 02:14:05 PM
Glad David's ok! 

I took my blood pressure at the pharmacy today - 106/70 - no wonder I've been feeling dizzy!  Increasing salt/fluid intake. 

Ate too many samples at the store today, but otherwise staying on track. 

Wore a skirt yesterday that was too snug a few weeks ago, with my new boots.  Thank you Zappos!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 21, 2012, 03:19:44 PM
I am totally in the mood for new boots, Mini.  They make me happy!  I can't make myself spend the $ on the ones I want, tho. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 21, 2012, 04:12:18 PM
Mini- that would be high BP for me! LOL

I had an awesome run today!

From DD:  :tennis:
the barn:  :tombstone:
 :spidey: :abs2: :clap: :bigkiss: :baby: :stupid:
let's not discuss the bananas.....
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on September 21, 2012, 04:26:55 PM
Meri, at first I thought you meant you had eaten too many bananas... :D

And that's about normal blood pressure for me too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 21, 2012, 05:56:53 PM
DH is getting chinese food for dinner. sigh. I ordered mooshu veggies, the least awful thing on the menu.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on September 21, 2012, 05:57:01 PM
Wore a skirt yesterday that was too snug a few weeks ago, with my new boots.  Thank you Zappos!

Awesome!  I wore my skinny jeans out to dinner last night.  The ones that the CH talked me into 2009 that always felt too tight to actually go anywhere. I can sit down in them now!  Which means they'll be completely out of style anyday now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 21, 2012, 08:00:15 PM
I am totally in the mood for new boots, Mini.  They make me happy!  I can't make myself spend the $ on the ones I want, tho. 



I want a new pair too. But I should probably focus on fitting back into my favorite pair of brown ones.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on September 21, 2012, 08:13:42 PM
Thanks y'all.  VP pretty sure it was a honeybee since there was a stinger left behind and I saw it fly away.  Generally yellow jackets will keep attacking and keep its stinger... so that was our conclusion.  Also there was a very stubborn honeybee harassing me the day before near the same place. 

Took the kids to the toddler gym today.  We had the whole place to ourselves...fun but also a little strange.



I spent far too much money at work today but got $16 of extrabucks so I'm happy...I may have purchased shit ton of chocolate.  Oops.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 21, 2012, 08:25:53 PM
That BP would be slightly on the high side for me.  Which is why I faint sometimes.


And meri, mooshu vegetables are my favorite Chinese food take-out dish.  We have only a handful of Chinese restaurants in town and they're all either awful or they are noodle shop-type places.  I love The Noodle Shop (one of them downtown, near a killer shoe store.  I think I know where we're having lunch tomorrow  :!: ) but I miss mooshu.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 21, 2012, 08:48:29 PM
So. Much. Food.

Actually, I didn't do too bad today, but I also have early pregnancy bloat, which is why my pants don't fit right. Ready for that to end!!

Bolloxd I hope David is feeling better - Reid's never been stung. I'd probably freak out with fear.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on September 21, 2012, 09:12:23 PM
Took m-i-l out to dinner.  Had papusas.  Feel stuffed, which as usual makes me want to keep eating.  Sigh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 21, 2012, 09:14:12 PM
Pupusas?  Salvadorian food?  They're really good stuffed with squash and cheese.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on September 22, 2012, 09:46:42 AM
I think we are lucky that none of us are allergic to bees but the first one, and all others really, make me nervous.

I got an awesome 8 mile run done this morning, I feel so much better.  Just what I needed.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on September 22, 2012, 10:34:48 AM
One pupusa was filled with pork, one with spinach and cheese. They were delicious.   I am still full.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on September 22, 2012, 12:31:47 PM
Mmmm!

So I weighed in on Friday and hit a good milestone, down into a new decade. That makes me happy - would like about 10 more lbs. And I have a couple of pairs of pants that are looser now. I think I've lost about 14 lbs since starting.

But I'll probably undo it all with birthday festivities - went out for drinks & appetizers with work friends yesterday, and a fancy dinner out tonight with mr. cgraz. Treated myself to a run in the park this morning though, so it's all good.

 :)
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Post by: merigayle on September 22, 2012, 12:41:44 PM
good job and happy birthday Cgraz :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 22, 2012, 01:03:06 PM
So I went out for Chinease last night. I know better and I will pay all day today but it was so yummy! I can already hear my belly rumbling though.  :(

I also looked at the grocery store for Asian sauces that aren't soy based and there was not a single one (out of maybe 20-30 choices. Even black bean sauce was black soybeans.  :o
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 22, 2012, 03:46:20 PM
So I went out for Chinease last night. I know better and I will pay all day today but it was so yummy! I can already hear my belly rumbling though.  :(

I also looked at the grocery store for Asian sauces that aren't soy based and there was not a single one (out of maybe 20-30 choices. Even black bean sauce was black soybeans.  :o
didn't i post about my DH making black soy beans instead of black beans?

you are just going to have to trial and error with your own sauce makings i guess. AND THEN MARKET THEM :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 22, 2012, 10:30:30 PM
So I went out for Chinease last night. I know better and I will pay all day today but it was so yummy! I can already hear my belly rumbling though.  :(

I also looked at the grocery store for Asian sauces that aren't soy based and there was not a single one (out of maybe 20-30 choices. Even black bean sauce was black soybeans.  :o

yep...  I've noticed the same thing, and they all have wheat as well. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 23, 2012, 12:31:27 AM
yep...  I've noticed the same thing, and they all have wheat as well. 

I did se a gluten free soy sauce though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 23, 2012, 07:35:07 AM
Tamari is gluten free soy sauce i thought?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on September 23, 2012, 09:57:04 AM
FML. I didn't lose an ounce last week, and now I just want to chow down out of sheer frustration.   I hate it when I feel like this.  It's 10 am and I want a pizza.  Not a slice, a pizza. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 23, 2012, 10:23:01 AM
Tamari is gluten free soy sauce i thought?

Nope...both contain wheat. But gluten free versions of both exist.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 23, 2012, 10:54:35 AM
Nope...both contain wheat. But gluten free versions of both exist.
maybe that is what i was thinking of, because i have bought it for my celiac SIL and it was definitely gluten free.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on September 23, 2012, 03:17:06 PM
3 miles on the trails with DH.  The weather is perfect today and I've been able to get 2 weeks of laundry finished.  It seems like Dad is missing mom's cooking since He called to see if I had any spare food.  Ha.


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 24, 2012, 08:31:50 AM
 :bigkiss: :spidey: :dosido: :dance3: :abs2: :dancecat: :melon: :taz:  :fiery:  :wah:  :fuz  :bitchfight: :stretch: :spidey: :dancecat: :baby: :stupid: :rockon: :sofahider:

from DD :D

otherwise nothing too exciting here :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 24, 2012, 12:50:07 PM
FML. I didn't lose an ounce last week, and now I just want to chow down out of sheer frustration.   I hate it when I feel like this.  It's 10 am and I want a pizza.  Not a slice, a pizza. 

 :hug:

Re: the soy sauce, it's not a big deal, as I rarely eat it...  I was just surprised!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on September 24, 2012, 05:57:55 PM
Meri that's cute.

I ate the majority of a huge bag of M&Ms last night.   Hard core PMS.  I woke up at 430 with horrible cramps.  Luckily I took a percoset and got to sleep it off.  Rachel was up at the same time so she got some cuddles too.  Work was a blur today and I have no idea how I got home.

Curry for dinner. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 24, 2012, 09:18:24 PM
Omg. Stopped for dinner on the way home from the airport. Hopped on the scale after we unpacked. :o

And that's *after* we walked all over hell's half-acre while we were in NOLA. Holy shit.

Austerity begins tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 26, 2012, 09:58:23 AM
and i had a last minute appt scheduled this afternoon at work, so no run for me today :( oh well.

i feel like a blob. my hormones are out of whack. yesterday was CD 17 and i had spotting, no signs of ovulation this cycle and I bled for like at least 10 days this cycle. So fun times for all, indeed.  :eyeroll: and my back is a MESS, mostly, i think, from sleeping in DD's room. We are trying everything to not have me lay in bed with her at night, but she gets so upset and i cave and i fall asleep in there. ugh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on September 26, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
I've been spinning out of control since Sunday.   :( 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 26, 2012, 12:07:19 PM
So, I did better in NO than I thought - pretty much broke even. Yesterday was awful, because DH didn't pack us lunches - we were too tired when we got home and unpacked - so I bought mine. Um.... yeah. Not a good plan.

We're having frozen pizza for dinner tonight, but otherwise, I should be back on track. Ugh. Now I have to start getting up in the mornings.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 26, 2012, 12:15:27 PM
i am really thinking about getting back to the 5:30am runs, though with DH's new job (3 months there) I could probably do 6-7am, though DD generally wakes up around 6:45am. We will see. I really need something to give.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 26, 2012, 12:19:18 PM
not sure if this will work , but here is a cheer you up from Pinterest, i think i actually LOL'ed!

(http://mommyhasapottymouth.com/wp-content/themes/website/data/php/timthumb.php?src=wp-content/uploads/2012/07/product-potty-thumb.jpg&q=90&w=516)
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Post by: diablita on September 26, 2012, 12:26:01 PM
 :sidesplit: meri

those are hilarious!  I'm all kinds of cranky and you just made me lol.

I am fasting today, until sundown.  I'm usually ok until later in the day but I had to start on the Zyrtec (I give up; can't handle the miserable allergy symptoms) so I've been hungry and grrrrouchy since about 10 am.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 26, 2012, 12:28:18 PM
Hah!!!! The only one I disagree with is the Reese's Pieces. I freakin' love those things. :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on September 26, 2012, 12:32:22 PM
I want one of each please!  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 26, 2012, 12:51:26 PM
Hah!!!! The only one I disagree with is the Reese's Pieces. I freakin' love those things. :D
agreed!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on September 26, 2012, 01:26:21 PM
I am struggling. I wish I could figure out my issues but I just cannot seem to stick to an eating plan and I can't manage to make myself workout.

My back is still hurting and now it is going down my leg (which makes me think sciatic) and I am afraid to run.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 26, 2012, 01:29:49 PM
I know the feeling, MM, and I wish I had advice. I still struggle with it.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 26, 2012, 01:45:57 PM
I am struggling. I wish I could figure out my issues but I just cannot seem to stick to an eating plan and I can't manage to make myself workout.

My back is still hurting and now it is going down my leg (which makes me think sciatic) and I am afraid to run.
i suffer from back pain. I often find that running helps, it loosens me up. Also, stretch out your piriformis, some people, their sciatic nerve runs thru there and can get impinged and running tightens all those lovely things up. And advil. lots of it. My back is a mess this week and advil helps for a few hours at a time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 26, 2012, 02:18:23 PM
Yeah, stretching and advil. I miss advil - can't take it while pregnant. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on September 26, 2012, 02:42:08 PM
Yoga helped my piriformis with sciatica impingement from hell.  Mine was so bad that my leg would go numb (but the painful pins and needles numb)  and it was like trying to run on a wooden leg that was on fire.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on September 26, 2012, 04:09:54 PM
Hah!!!! The only one I disagree with is the Reese's Pieces. I freakin' love those things. :D

I love them too!  They are WAY better than M&Ms.

And yes, I have bought the rice krispy treats as breakfast food.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 26, 2012, 04:28:32 PM
Meri, those are fucking hilarious!!  I love me some spray painted styrofoam peanuts!  :D  And Reese's Pieces.  Mmmmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 26, 2012, 04:47:43 PM
and I love cheetohs.  And would kill for some right now.  Two hours to go.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 26, 2012, 05:56:06 PM
and I love cheetohs.  And would kill for some right now.  Two hours to go.

There is nothing like that orange cheesy goodness. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 26, 2012, 06:44:32 PM
My neighbor always has a huge bin of cheetos. Hard not to stick my hand in there  :sneaking:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 26, 2012, 06:45:03 PM
yes!

PSA: Do not log in to Pinterest if you are fasting.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on September 26, 2012, 07:24:53 PM
yes!

PSA: Do not log in to Pinterest if you are fasting.

I was just about to ask you what you were doing in the food forum if you're fasting!  :)

The worst day of fasting I ever had was a day that my family was fasting for my aunt, who had some medical issues.  I spent the whole day working on menu spreadsheets for work.  It sucked!  (Normally I only fast the first Sunday of each month, and it's easier to avoid food on the weekend.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 26, 2012, 07:25:27 PM
How long do you fast for, Nadra?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on September 26, 2012, 08:07:13 PM
How long do you fast for, Nadra?

It's supposed to be about 24 hours, starting after dinner the night before, skipping breakfast and lunch, and ending with dinner that night.  In practice, I'm not really strict on the actual number of hours.  I start my fast in my evening prayers when I go to bed, and tend to eat dinner earlier than usual when I'm fasting. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on September 26, 2012, 08:13:24 PM
i commend you ladies, i can barely fast for a morning fasting blood test without passing out :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 26, 2012, 08:16:58 PM
Gotcha.  Is it for internal reflection or (spiritual) cleansing or something else?

 :d  it's usually ok until the last few hours, today was just particularly tough b/c of the Zyrtec. 


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on September 26, 2012, 08:33:26 PM
i commend you ladies, i can barely fast for a morning fasting blood test without passing out :D

It's easier if you're fasting with a purpose, for me anyway.  We believe that fasting, when combined with prayer, brings us closer to the Lord and can help prepare us and others to receive blessings.  If I'm trying to overcome a weakness or understand something about the gospel, or if I'm fasting so that others may receive blessings, I can think about that when I get hungry and it takes my mind of of the hunger.  If I don't have a purpose and I'm just fasting because I'm supposed to, it's harder to refocus my thoughts and I definitely think about my stomach every.other.second!  You get used to it, too.  I've been doing it my whole life (well, since I was eight), and now it's just something I do. 

Gotcha.  Is it for internal reflection or (spiritual) cleansing or something else?

 :d  it's usually ok until the last few hours, today was just particularly tough b/c of the Zyrtec. 




I kind of touched on that above, but in a nutshell we fast to strengthen us spiritually, to draw closer to the Lord, and to prepare us (or others) to receive blessings.  One way of looking at it is increasing the intensity of your prayer, if that makes sense, or overcoming the physical so that we can focus on or more fully receive the spiritual.  What about you?  I know that fasting is traditional on some of the holy days, (maybe all of them?) but don't know much more than that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 26, 2012, 08:53:32 PM
That does make sense and is a part of this fast.  There are a few fasts in our culture but the big one is on Yom Kippur (the holiday that started last night and ended at sundown).

The idea behind the holiday is that we've begun the new year (started on Rosh Hashana, last Monday) and had a few days b/w that day and this one to reflect on last year and the things we are sorry for/wanted to do better. 

The idea behind the fast (along with not focusing on other physical needs like bathing, adorning yourself, etc) is that by ignoring all of those physical needs you can spend the day focusing on the spiritual and strengthen your connection with G-d as you ask for forgiveness.
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Post by: nadra24 on September 26, 2012, 08:57:02 PM
That makes a lot of sense to me.  Thanks for your explanation.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on September 26, 2012, 09:39:44 PM
I don't know how y'all fast. I get a terrible headache followed by dizziness if I get too hungry.
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Post by: triciaflower on September 26, 2012, 10:21:27 PM
OMG Cheeeetosssss!!!!!

 :heartbeat:
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Post by: merigayle on September 27, 2012, 07:44:54 AM
and CD19 with full flow period  :fiery:  :bat:  :grr:  :sigh:

and for fasting, i have taken a bunch of Qi Gong classes and they always want you to fast, probably some spiritual enlightenment stuff, but sheesh, i never make it past lunch.
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Post by: Bolloxd on September 27, 2012, 09:44:59 AM
Meri I loved those pics....lol.   sorry AF is being weird though, I'm dealing with similar issues this time around.

 Dev, have you seen the Fresh Beat Band live segment on Nick lately?  That's from their Charlotte show.  Have you told J yet?

 I can only fast if I don't realize it or I get too busy for a chance to eat.  If I have to purposefully fast then it is the hardest thing ever.

We did 1.5 miles of trails yesterday with kids and I did 4 miles this morning with the dog.  Luckily I have a short work day.  My eating still sucks.
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Post by: diablita on September 27, 2012, 10:56:58 AM
Yes, we have been seeing the Fresh Beat Band live segments.  Jessica is SO excited!  We told her a week or so ago.  Do the twins know?
We can't wait to see you guys.
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Post by: Run Amok on September 27, 2012, 11:16:59 AM
So... NY was not exactly a low calorie trip this time (it never is). I feel like I've gained a few lbs lately. So... back on the straight & narrow today. I did run last night and it was awful. Today I'm tired and sore and dragging. No real reason to feel as incredibly craptastic as I do. A bit of a mystery really. Hoping to run again tonight.

I am struggling. I wish I could figure out my issues but I just cannot seem to stick to an eating plan and I can't manage to make myself workout.

I've been spinning out of control since Sunday.   :( 


 :(  Sorry guys. I wish I had something more inspiring to say... but didn't want these two posts to go uncommented on. I hope you regain your mojo soon.
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Post by: rocketgirl on September 27, 2012, 11:38:08 AM
I finally feeling kind of normal today after being sick since about Friday last week.  I have a little cough at night, and still some congestion in my head, but I FEEL so much better.  Hopefully I will be able to run by this weekend.  I skipped most of my runs last week, and then to not be able to run this week either...

I am having chili AGAIN today.  I think it's the last day it's edible. I made it Sunday.  I chunked a bunch of it in the freezer Monday morning, but I've been eating the part that I refrigerated.  I'm kind of tired of the chili.  It makes my stomach noisy.
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Post by: debbatx on September 27, 2012, 03:02:23 PM
So, for the time being, I can't exercise. At all. Not even walk.

That means I *really* need to get with the program when it comes to eating.  :panic:
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Post by: merigayle on September 27, 2012, 03:31:27 PM
So, for the time being, I can't exercise. At all. Not even walk.

That means I *really* need to get with the program when it comes to eating.  :panic:
  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Run Amok on September 27, 2012, 04:40:09 PM
I finally feeling kind of normal today after being sick since about Friday last week.  I have a little cough at night, and still some congestion in my head, but I FEEL so much better.  Hopefully I will be able to run by this weekend.  I skipped most of my runs last week, and then to not be able to run this week either...

I am having chili AGAIN today.  I think it's the last day it's edible. I made it Sunday.  I chunked a bunch of it in the freezer Monday morning, but I've been eating the part that I refrigerated.  I'm kind of tired of the chili.  It makes my stomach noisy.

I am in the same boat. Is it allergies? A cold? Particulate in the air from the fires in another part of the state? Some days I feel fine... some days I feel like I got run over by a truck.

When I make a big pot of soup I usually freeze it into individual portions pretty much right away. Then I don't have to eat it until I get sick of it (unless I want to). :)


So, for the time being, I can't exercise. At all. Not even walk.

That means I *really* need to get with the program when it comes to eating.  :panic:

Hang in there Debba. You're pregnant. Be kind to yourself. I hate the idea of you beating yourself up for the next 8.5 months when hormones are driving your hunger cues right now!
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Post by: rocketgirl on September 27, 2012, 05:04:27 PM
It was definitely a cold.  I had the 2 days of sore throat drainage with fatigue, then the day of maybe it's not happening and I don't feel so bad, followed by 2 days of run over by a truck and can't breathe, followed by lingering cough.  I got off easy too.  Most of the time, my colds turn into a 2 week plus ordeal.

I do have allergies, and I need to get my allergy shots tomorrow, but I can almost always tell the difference.
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Post by: debbatx on September 27, 2012, 05:21:59 PM
Thanks, meri and RA. I'm just going to have to be extra careful for now, until I get cleared to start walking and working out again. I was told, "go to work, go home, be a couch potato." I was like, "Dude, I've been waiting YEARS for someone to give me permission to do that!!!"
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Post by: VP of Tea on September 27, 2012, 05:36:43 PM
for dinner I am having: pink grapefruit yogurt, 6 oz of fruit salad (no melon in sight!) and.... potato chips.

It still beats DQ. By a lot.
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Post by: merigayle on September 27, 2012, 05:57:52 PM
Thanks, meri and RA. I'm just going to have to be extra careful for now, until I get cleared to start walking and working out again. I was told, "go to work, go home, be a couch potato." I was like, "Dude, I've been waiting YEARS for someone to give me permission to do that!!!"
:rotfl:

i have been doing ok today, ran well at lunch. I really need to muster up the oomph to get back to early morning runs and do some 2 a days. I just feel, blech. DD went to sleep wtihout me in her bed last night, i took her to Michaels and she bought glitter glue pens, a lollipop and a pad of paper for reward. I hope this continues, me sleeping in her bed has really killed my back :( It is TERRIBLE.

And in good news, I was stressing over our credit cards, etc, and called one card and they lowered the APR a lot. I had never realized how high it was (they say it was always that high, she looked thru the records) and just was not making any progress, even sending them a lot of money each month. We are starting to do the "pay off the lowest balance card first" thing, starting with DH's card and hope to get them paid off sooner than later. I would really like to do Badwater again, but I have to do it, only if i can pay cash and we can afford it. I paid almost all cash this year for everything, but there's always something that needs $$. Taxes are the big one. Ugh. It is so hard being self employed sometimes. I am putting away more and more each week, so hopefully that will help.

just needed to vent.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on September 27, 2012, 09:28:41 PM
Yes, we have been seeing the Fresh Beat Band live segments.  Jessica is SO excited!  We told her a week or so ago.  Do the twins know?
We can't wait to see you guys.

We've told them but I don't think it will sink in until we're in the car and on the way. 




Deb, that is funny.  Enjoy the permission to take things easy.

Meri, glad you got the APR lowered.  Having credit card debt over your head is so frustrating.  We have a cycle of paying them off and then getting right back in debt.  So crazy but for some reason we keep doing it.  Blah.

My vent:  DH moans about me not doing 5k races with him like a 'family' but he won't train for it.  Then I arrange for a babysitter on race day and he still insists they won't be able to watch TWO toddlers at the same time.  I can't win.   And how on earth can I even think this person could handle both kids alone.... blah blah blah. :eyeroll: 
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Post by: Run Amok on September 27, 2012, 10:11:20 PM
Unplanned rest day. I took a local bus home and the constant stopping/accelerating made me kinda queasy. Blergh. DD, otoh, is out running as we speka.  :heartbeat:
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Post by: merigayle on September 28, 2012, 07:50:44 AM
bolloxd- that is our cycle too! between DH having been out of work and then all the $$ we had to spend when he went back to work, it crept back up.
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Post by: debbatx on September 28, 2012, 09:38:56 AM
Yeah, we're paying off some impressive CC debt right now, too. Ugh. SO annoying. I had one almost completely paid off earlier this year and suddenly, BAM!! I swear, I don't know how we do it. I'm seriously contemplating putting us on a cash-only budget unless it's something we *must* order off the internet, like, say, a crib.
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Post by: merigayle on September 28, 2012, 09:59:41 AM
Yeah, we're paying off some impressive CC debt right now, too. Ugh. SO annoying. I had one almost completely paid off earlier this year and suddenly, BAM!! I swear, I don't know how we do it. I'm seriously contemplating putting us on a cash-only budget unless it's something we *must* order off the internet, like, say, a crib.


I left grad school 10 yrs ago with $35,000 in cc debt, paid it all off. When we bought our house 5 years ago, we put a lot on the cc, like $5000, expecting to pay it off in 12-18 months, then the economy tanked, and then DH was out of work and so on and so on. When he went back to work, we had to buy him a tool box, we bought a dented, used one, for $4500. That was a bargain, believe it or not  :grr: That went on the cc as well. So, just these stupid things that add up. And i had to do 60 credits of continuing ed, that went on the cc. But yeah, pretty much all we do is cash, but the damage is done, and it needs to be paid off. I was so happy to have made that call yesterday. I think this paperless bill thing is part of the problem, i never really get to sit with a paper bill in my hand and REALLY look it over, if that makes sense. We do not live extravagant lives, we maybe eat out 1-2 times a month, max, and never anywhere fancy. I wish DH would pack his lunch, but he cannot plan and half the time, if he does prepare a lunch, he forgets it  :eyeroll:

I went to the bank today to do my weekly banking and i actually feel like we are caught up, esp since we did not have to pay the mortgage in october with the refi. This really helped us catch up. I hope if we can keep the momentum this month, we should be good to do wtih saving and paying off. It is hard, both DH and I have variable incomes, it is hard to plan when your pay can vary so much. Last week I made $800 more than this week, that is a HUGE difference. And totally out of my control :(
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Post by: debbatx on September 28, 2012, 10:18:53 AM
I don't know how you do it with a variable income, meri. My head would explode trying to figure it out. We were planning to sit down and rework the budget this weekend, so I'm going to really push the "cash-only" option. We've been stashing money away for Christmas, so that's covered, at least. I'll have to do some stuff for Reid's birthday party, so I'll have to figure that out - the bakery we use requires a CC deposit, but I can cover that. I'm just SO tired of it.

And then I'll pay the minimum on DH's card, because we're putting everything extra on another card right now, and then I get his bill and it's full of little Amazon charges because he has the impulse control of a rat when it comes to cheap music. Except it's not cheap when it adds up to MORE than the minimum payment and Citi is charging him 10% interest!!! GAAAAAAAH.

This makes me want chocolate.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on September 28, 2012, 10:43:28 AM
Debba...hide you credit cards ins block of ice. If an emergency comes along you can melt it but otherwise they stay unavailable. Use a debit card for your credit card purchases.
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Post by: debbatx on September 28, 2012, 10:53:03 AM
Yeah, we've done that. DH keeps saying he's going to take his CC off his Amazon account, and then "forgets." :eyeroll:
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Post by: merigayle on September 28, 2012, 11:26:17 AM
We never use the credit cards, but we have in the past, used them for some big purchases that had to be made (like the tool box, the CEU classes, etc) and all those good intentions of how they will get paid off, well, more shit hits the fan, ugh.

oh and DH was supposed to get a $1 pay raise 2 weeks ago, still not in his check, and he said that he won't get back pay, i was like, wtf? you better ask for it. But he does not like to ruffle feathers  :eyeroll:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on September 28, 2012, 11:41:56 AM
I ran last night (4.25 miles) which is the first time in weeks. Tiny victory but today and last night my back was killing me.
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Post by: debbatx on September 28, 2012, 11:50:00 AM
Good job, MM!!!

We used the CCs while we were in New Orleans, but that was planned and the cash is in our vacation fund, so I'm not worried about that.
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Post by: Run Amok on September 28, 2012, 11:52:26 AM
I ran last night (4.25 miles) which is the first time in weeks. Tiny victory but today and last night my back was killing me.

More than a tiny victory. Nice work!!

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Post by: merigayle on September 28, 2012, 12:15:30 PM
good job MM!!!

we used cc in Badwater for things like rental cars (mostly because you have to) with the intent of paying off with the next cc statement, pretty much did that, but there was already a balance before that. It's like running on a treadmill!
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Post by: debbatx on September 28, 2012, 12:56:03 PM
It is VERY like running on a treadmill. Makes me insane.
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Post by: merigayle on September 28, 2012, 01:05:08 PM
It is VERY like running on a treadmill. Makes me insane.
yep. but i feel like we are taking steps in the right direction, but the money just seems to vanish! LOL. We lowered our mortgage $600/mo, reduced rent at work $400/mo, no cable tv for 2 years, lowered both car payments in the past 12-18 months, BUT now we are paying again for health insurance (not cheap!) and it always seems to be something that requires $. With all the cuts, you would think there would be a surplus, but so far, not seeing it :( Oh well. As long as we can pay our bills, I gotta be content, because there was a time when we could not do that! Even though it has been almost 4 yrs, it is really hard to adjust to making 1/2 of what i used to make. The economy blows. We've seriously adjusted our lifestyle, but added a kid in there, so it kinda was a wash :D

I also had 2 weeks worth of bank deposits that i took to the bank today, and my account went from little to a lot, so that was just a mind game i mistakenly played with myself :D

ok, gotta jet outta work and catch a run before picking up DD :)

I love our little chit chats/random thoughts here. I  :heartbeat: you gals :)
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Post by: debbatx on September 29, 2012, 08:19:36 AM
GAAAAAAH. WW ladies, does anyone else use the app on your phone? Anyone else having a bitch of a time since the update? I can't even log in to the damn thing! Help!
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Post by: VP of Tea on September 29, 2012, 12:41:15 PM
Sorry debba, no help with the iPhone from me and my stupid phone.

We had a really nice dinner yesterday (venison tenderloin and something that was described as 'dutch peewee potatoes, which cracked me up, and salad) but it was not low in anything! Good though!

Tonight we'll have oktoberfest food. Mmmm, sausage....

I really need to go out and run. The weather is so gorgeous, there is no excuse but I have been so frikkin lazy.
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Post by: merigayle on September 29, 2012, 03:03:52 PM
about to go to a 3 yo bday party at a creamery  :panic:
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Post by: Bolloxd on September 29, 2012, 03:33:01 PM
VP some days it is just hard to get out there.  Enjoy the ocktoberfest though!
Meri, I agree.   :skeered:
Debba, no advice at all about WW.  Hope it gets worked out.

I dragged DH & the kids out of bed this morning.  I ran the 5k race, 2nd in my age group, felt pretty good passing the people going up hills.  :D  It was a cool drizzle the whole time which helped.  Afterwards we did the 1 mile fun run... well... umm... tried.  David did run a little, maybe .3 of a mile??  then they both demanded to be carried the entire way.  My arms are dead.  Right after we crossed the finished line they wanted down to walk!!   :incazzato:  :sigh: 

At least they are napping today...they've not been napping lately.  So that is a bonus.  It also gave me & DH some time to sit down and sort out our finances again...at least to get back on top of it in theory.  Also discovered a charge on my card that I didn't authorize....apparently I'm buying sunglasses in Oregon.  I called the merchant's number on my phone and it was someone in Canada.  So, tried to sort that all out with the bank.  They didn't think it was necessary to cancel/change my card numbers!? 

Guess I should attempt some house cleaning before we get visitors later.  Hope ya'll are having a good weekend!
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Post by: Run Amok on September 29, 2012, 03:39:55 PM
I'm feeling super run down and whiney right now. Glad I got up and did my run this morning though. A bit sore from doing stairs yesterday and I think I have allergies or something. Didn't sleep well last night and soooooooooo tired today.  :wah:
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Post by: merigayle on September 29, 2012, 07:43:34 PM
Dude! everytime i wrote a response on my phone, it went bye bye! LOL.

Bolloxd-- good job :)

RA--  :hug:

No ice cream for me at the party, but i did have a couple bites of cake. DH made spaghetti and no-meat balls for dinner and i used the left over spaghetti squash for me, i just hope i do not wake up starving in the middle of the night like last night :(
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Post by: diablita on September 29, 2012, 10:52:06 PM
hugs to all of you

I'm hoping to get in a run tomorrow.  Hopefully the rain is finished.  My dog is going to pee in my shoes soon if I don't take him for a good run.  (not really, he's the sweetest dog ever, but we always say that)
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Post by: Ice Cream on September 30, 2012, 07:21:33 AM

I ran the 5k race, 2nd in my age group, felt pretty good passing the people going up hills.  :D  It was a cool drizzle the whole time which helped. 

Congratulations!
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Post by: merigayle on September 30, 2012, 03:34:44 PM
DD woke up wayyyyy too early this morning, then i weenied out of running because it was 40 some degrees out, but ran 10 at nap and she is still napping  :o was hoping to go to TCBY for a treat but not if she keeps sleeping! LOL. She needs it obviously. She was a monster all morning.
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Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on September 30, 2012, 04:51:03 PM
The change in light has kicked in. I am like the bottomless pit.
Happens every year around now and lasts a few weeks.

I am craving fat and sugar like a drug addict!
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Post by: merigayle on September 30, 2012, 06:03:23 PM
SB- maybe you need to pack on some pounds pre getting knocked up :D But welcome here :)

No TCBY for us. We had a scarecrow fiasco that only a toddler could have  :eyeroll: i promised to take her to a store to buy a cheap scarecrow because the pumpkin patch was wayyyyy overpriced. Well, they closed at 4, we got there around 4:10 :( she was hysterical. Another woman told us AC Moore had them on sale, se we shlepped all the way over there and bought some. Ugh.
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Post by: Run Amok on September 30, 2012, 06:18:46 PM
The change in light has kicked in. I am like the bottomless pit.
Happens every year around now and lasts a few weeks.

I am craving fat and sugar like a drug addict!

I have been dragging ass lately. Maybe this is the culprit. I have horrible allergies right now too. I am something of a mess. It ain't pretty.
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Post by: diablita on September 30, 2012, 07:14:43 PM
 :hug:  horrible allergies here, too.  I was silly and thought I could tough it out w/o Zyrtec.  :nono:  This was the first morning in several days that I didn't wake up full of disgustingness and suffer an itchy throat all day.
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Post by: diablita on September 30, 2012, 07:15:43 PM
And SB, my DH goes through the same thing.  And then later in the winter he'll have SAD bad.  He's like a plant; definitely doesn't do well without copious amounts of sunshine (or we'd be living in Vancouver right now).  Ireland is not for him, huh?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on September 30, 2012, 08:58:33 PM
Ehhhh, it's been okay this weekend. Not horrible, not great. I need to tighten things up on the food front, but I have two offsite events this week, which means box lunches from Jason's Deli, and my in-laws come in on Thursday, which never ends well, foodwise.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on September 30, 2012, 10:53:50 PM
Dinner was homemade pizza bagels.  I even made the bagels!  But we each ate only a half and the cheese was part-skim.  Grapes and a TJ's 100-calorie chocolate bar for dessert.  I'm hoping to start this week off a bit better.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 01, 2012, 08:00:43 AM
was making the bagels hard? did you boil then bake them?

debba--  :hug:

I did fine this weekend, hoping to continue the trend and hoping to wake up atleast 1 time this week for a 5:30am run. we will see. DD was up a lot last night, she woke up and would not go back to sleep. Stuffy nose, peed a couple times, tossed and turned. She is still asleep, an hour past when she normally wakes up. I am just letting her sleep. We are supposed to go to the children's museum today, we will see. I will pack my lunch, as they have "healthy" options, but the healthy options are still too high in calories for me. Definitely not your regular fast food by any means, but they have a pasta bar and a wood fire oven for pizza and paninis.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on October 01, 2012, 08:27:54 AM
We went to my sister's for the weekend and had a great time, but man did I blow my points! I think I ate all my weekly points in one night. We went to a gastro pub that has amazing duck fat fries. And poutine. And charcuterie. And beer. Doh.

But I did run 4 miles on Saturday and felt great. And every day is a new day, so it's just clean eating for the rest of the week!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 01, 2012, 08:47:33 AM
Cgraz- that's a great way to put it in perspective!

Debba, you'll feel better about the splurge with the inlaws if this week is pretty descent. I usually toss/give away the cookie/chips immediately. Also, just consider the boxed lunch the big meal of the day and make dinner extra healthy. The boxed meals do not have to derail your week!

I am getting back on the "packing my lunch" bandwagon. Cut up veggies with yogurt dip and two hardboiled eggs. Oh and grapes.

Took zyrtec last night and this am is probably a 70% improvement. Better than nothing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 01, 2012, 09:28:07 AM
I think what frustrates me the most with the in-laws is that it's not even a good splurge - there's just nowhere they like to eat that's healthy. FIL *has* to get his bbq, and Mexican fixes. They don't want to deal with taking Reid out for dinner, and "don't want to bother us" with cooking, so we end up just getting carryout for a damn WEEK, and it's rarely worth it.

And you've lost your mind if you think I'm going to spend all day with high school kids - we're helping them fill out the state online common application for college - and *not* have a cookie. If I can't have wine, I'm eating the fucking cookie.
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Post by: Run Amok on October 01, 2012, 10:17:05 AM
Ugh. Sorry debba- that doesn't sound like fun. I guess just do the best you can in terms of making good choices. It sucks so much when you feel like you're trapped into eating stuff that isn't "worth it".

P.S. I totally got between the preggo and her cookie, didn't I?  :panic:
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Post by: diablita on October 01, 2012, 10:22:25 AM
P.S. I totally go between the preggo and her cookie, didn't I?  :panic:

yes!  never come between a mama bear and her babies.  or a pregnant mama and her cookie!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 01, 2012, 10:26:51 AM
Yeah, if I can't drink away my sorrows, I'm at least going to eat the cookie. :)

I'd offer to let my MIL cook for us - she loves it - but then we'd end up with something that tastes like cafeteria food, and Reid would refuse to touch it, and that would *totally* suck. I'm already dreading the look from my FIL when Reid doesn't behave properly at dinner. FIL seems to think that Reid is either 6 months old and completely incapable of doing anything himself, or 6 *years* old, and so should "know better."

And the house looks like shit because I'm supposed to be taking it easy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 01, 2012, 10:45:02 AM
I was looking forward to having some raspberries and realized that my DD ate them all yesterday.  Bummed.  At least we have pineapple but it's making my throat itch.


meri, for the bagels I boiled, then baked.  The rising steps were a lot of work (Rose Levy Beranbaum, always lots of steps) but not too bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 01, 2012, 11:04:18 AM
I was looking forward to having some raspberries and realized that my DD ate them all yesterday.  Bummed.  At least we have pineapple but it's making my throat itch.

That happened at our house this week too. Costco had a big container of them for $3.50, so they went in the cart. I went to costco saturday. They are all gone. :( They were yummy though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 01, 2012, 11:12:57 AM
So w my period coming thursday, my weight is down four lbs, whew!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on October 01, 2012, 01:19:39 PM
And SB, my DH goes through the same thing.  And then later in the winter he'll have SAD bad.  He's like a plant; definitely doesn't do well without copious amounts of sunshine (or we'd be living in Vancouver right now).  Ireland is not for him, huh?

Hell no. My SAD lamp is a savior. When I didn't have it my sugar/fat swings were INSANE!! Total medication via food.

But now it is just a brief, but noticeable, change in tastes. It is much more manageable. And I feel much more sane.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on October 01, 2012, 01:36:56 PM
My SAD lamp is a savior. When I didn't have it my sugar/fat swings were INSANE!! Total medication via food.

I keep meaning to buy one of those. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on October 01, 2012, 01:54:32 PM
I keep meaning to buy one of those. 

I'm a complete SAD lamp evangelist. It saved my sanity and is a huge reason why I'm still here and married to my DH.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 01, 2012, 03:54:34 PM
DH needs a SAD lamp!!!! I tell him that every year.

So i did good. We were at the children's museum and they had a special meal today-- falafel sliders! how good does that sound? well, good but high in calories (buns not pitas, etc), so i just ate what i brought and DD got pizza and i ate her crust :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on October 01, 2012, 11:10:21 PM
I need to get me one of those lamps. We get a lot of sunshine here, but I don't think it's enough to keep my mood from declining during the cooler months.

I just noted that I'm starting to feel a little down already. It usually hits in October. Oh look at the calendar. Right on time. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 02, 2012, 07:44:26 AM
I need to get me one of those lamps. We get a lot of sunshine here, but I don't think it's enough to keep my mood from declining during the cooler months.

I just noted that I'm starting to feel a little down already. It usually hits in October. Oh look at the calendar. Right on time. :(
:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 02, 2012, 09:19:54 AM
DD insisted on pancakes for breakfast, silver dollar ones. Then she did not eat them. I did. And i do not even like pancakes  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 02, 2012, 09:52:54 AM
I've contemplated a SAD lamp before, too, but I don't think my cabin fever is quite bad enough to justify it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 02, 2012, 11:52:31 AM
Yesterday was a disaster. I was fine all day but then I was STARVING by the time we got home and I started dinner (which was pizza...). I snacked a bit while cooking dinner and then overate at dinner. Blerg.

This morning I had a slice of toast with a tsp each of pb and jam. I have greek yogurt & a smidge of jam for a morning snack. Salad + 2 hardboiled eggs for lunch. Grapes + 8 almonds for afternoon snack. Dinner out with my dad tonight.

I am trying to get back into the routine of eating at set times. If I do that, I'm not hungry between. But, my eating has been so eradic for the past 60 days that right now eating little bits frequently is making me much more food focussed than I have been.

Oh, and lots of dfw.

I took zyrtec for the second time last night. I woke up feeling a bit better initially but still really yucky today. Allergies or cold, I can't decide.

Going to shoot for a 2 mile run this afternoon. I'm trying to up my # of days without significantly upping my mileage, so I can get to 5 days of running wihtout injuring myself in the process. Yesterday was a planned rest day, and I needed it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 02, 2012, 11:54:30 AM
Did okay yesterday and am hanging in there so far today. We're doing leftovers for dinner tonight. If I can avoid eating all the chili, I'll be good to go. The scale is inching back down to my pre-pregnancy weight, which is where I'd ideally like to maintain for a while. I gained a bit in NOLA and from some stress eating, and I swear I put on 5 pounds as soon as I got the second line on the pregnancy test. :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 02, 2012, 12:20:12 PM
I am doing ok. Ran last night and have been eating pretty on plan. We are going to Reno for a long weekend this weekend to celebrate my birthday...hopefully I don't go overboard eating.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 02, 2012, 12:55:01 PM
RA-- being starving come dinner prep time is a recipe for disaster, i totally know it!

Debba- hang in there!

MM-- happy birthday :) enjoy!

Ran today. DH set his alarm for 5:30am and then rolled over until 7  :grr: I am hoping, if i get some sleep tonight, to be the one waking at 5:30 and running. I have a mega dentist appt tomorrow and would like to get this in.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 02, 2012, 01:41:02 PM
DH and I are going to try to cook mac and cheese one night when his parents are here. Since we're doing leftovers tonight, that bumps everything else we'd planned back a day. We'll see if his parents will let us get away with serving them just mac and cheese and a salad. FIL will probably not be terribly pleased.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 02, 2012, 02:36:36 PM
I just have to say this to someone...

I used to track my calories on spark people. I still get their emails but they go to my junkmail box so I just ignore them, unless a topic catches my eye. Can I just say that they have the WORST writers at spark? They come up with interesting topics and then they butcher them. This is an excellent example:

http://www.dailyspark.com/blog.asp?post=6_ways_to_combat_rising_food_costs (http://www.dailyspark.com/blog.asp?post=6_ways_to_combat_rising_food_costs)

I love that they say that food costs are going to rise(!). Then, they go on to say that your gallon of milk is going up 10 cents... which is going to add up to a whopping $6.76/ a year. Really?

Then we get into their budget stretching tips...

Portion control, avoid prepared foods, eat less meat, avoid indivdually portioned foods, avoid waste.

Yeah, ok, thanks spark... I could never have puzzled that out on my own.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on October 02, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
I think that site must be geared towards people who have NO CLUE what to eat or how to eat healthfully.

Since we are runners I bet we all tend to have at least a basic knowledge of nutrition.

Well, there is also a good chance they probably get people to write this stuff for free. You get what you pay for!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 02, 2012, 03:34:23 PM
I think it's really true that they start with the very basicest of basics. That is probably appropriate based on what I've seen on the message boards. Seems like they could rotate some good info through too though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 02, 2012, 04:21:32 PM
I see a couple of you take Zyrtec at night.  Is there an advantage to taking it at night vs. firs thing in the morning?  Is it effective for you during the day? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 02, 2012, 04:30:19 PM
I took it at night because the drowsiness tended to hit me in the first few hours after I took it. If I was already asleep during that, well.... no harm, no foul.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 02, 2012, 04:36:15 PM
I take claritin at night and singulair in the morning. Singulair can cause sleepLESSness, LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 02, 2012, 04:49:41 PM
Is singulair prescription?

I take it at night because of the drowsiness. It does still seem to help during the day (24 hour dose). I usually take it about 8:30 and the benefits seem to wear off about 5pm or so.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 02, 2012, 05:03:40 PM
Yes Singulair is prescription. I take it, with flonase as well, at really bad times for allergies. I have this pain in my face which the dr said teeth and the dentist said sinus and the flonase does help tremendously and i continue to use it as needed as no one will take ownership of my face pain :D When my allergies are not that bad, just claritin at night.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on October 02, 2012, 07:39:33 PM
A little girl was in with her parents today and she was HACKING UP A LUNG!!!!  :panic: I soooo don't want to get sick. Keep your sick kids away from public places, people!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 02, 2012, 09:05:29 PM
Hopefully it was just allergies, tricia!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 03, 2012, 07:59:24 AM
no morning run for me :( DD was up around midnight for awhile and then she was talking in her sleep, so i was up again, and then there was thunder, and next thing I knew it was almost 7am! LOL. Oh well. It is another rainy, cranky day and i am getting three teeth worked on at the dentist.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 03, 2012, 09:37:46 AM
Ugh, good luck at the dentist, meri! Reid was mumbling in his sleep at some point last night, but I have no idea what he was saying. I was just glad he didn't wake up.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 03, 2012, 06:09:54 PM
 :skep: So, I think zyrtec was turning me into a bottomless pit. 2 days in a row, I took zyrtec, ate my normal food (that normally keeps me satisfied) was starving all day and then by about 5pm, was so hungry I just started shoving food into my face until I was stuffed to bursting. Not pretty, and not like me. Last night I stayed at a friend's house and forgot my zyrtec. Today? Happy and satisfied all day and not constantly thinking about food/the next thing I can eat/the cand dish/stopping on my way home to pick up a tasty treat, etc, etc, etc.  :skep: Weird, right?

Also, feeling MUCH better today and starting to think maybe I've had a cold not allergies. Guess it doesn't particularly matter though!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 03, 2012, 08:23:38 PM
yes!  I took Zyrtec on the morning of Yom Kippur and was suffering by 10 am.  I'm usually able to get to 3 or 4 pm before I feel really hungry.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 04, 2012, 10:48:51 AM
So yesterday at lunch we were talking about yoga and my coworker didn't know what a sun salutation was so I went to show her....well I cannot do downward facing dog. My back starting shooting pain when I tried. I wonder if I should go to a dr.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 04, 2012, 11:50:39 AM
I would take some NSAIDs and see how it feels tomorrow. Not much the dr can do besides maybe give you steroids.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 04, 2012, 11:55:50 AM
I would take some NSAIDs and see how it feels tomorrow. Not much the dr can do besides maybe give you steroids.

It just worries me because it has been hurting for a full month and if it is still this sore I wonder if it is ever going to go away without some sort of intervention. I have been living off of large quantities of advil.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 04, 2012, 12:04:18 PM
It just worries me because it has been hurting for a full month and if it is still this sore I wonder if it is ever going to go away without some sort of intervention. I have been living off of large quantities of advil.
ah, gotcha. Have you done anything beside advil? Like massage or ice/heat therapy? I personally think steroids are only really effective in acute cases and you are borderline not really that acute anymore, acute is usually 1-6 weeks, imo. Local guided injection of steroids maybe. Physical therapy. Have you tried a TENS unit on it? not sure if either of you have one.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 04, 2012, 12:25:10 PM
ah, gotcha. Have you done anything beside advil? Like massage or ice/heat therapy? I personally think steroids are only really effective in acute cases and you are borderline not really that acute anymore, acute is usually 1-6 weeks, imo. Local guided injection of steroids maybe. Physical therapy. Have you tried a TENS unit on it? not sure if either of you have one.

I would have to go to my primary care dr to get referred to physical therapy.

It is just so odd because I didn't even do anything to injure myself in the first place.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 04, 2012, 01:03:16 PM
I've had that happen. I still have no idea what I did and it took probably 6 months to heal. Apparently soft tissues take forever to heal with me. I sprained my ankle about 10 months ago and it's just now starting to really get close to 100%.  :-\
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 04, 2012, 01:08:50 PM
I would have to go to my primary care dr to get referred to physical therapy.

It is just so odd because I didn't even do anything to injure myself in the first place.
Anything you do can do it, drying off funny after a shower, stepping wrong, sleeping odd, throwing your bag over your shoulder, etc. There is not always a definite causation. I would get a therapeutic massage in the time being.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on October 04, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Sorry about your back MM!

Yesterday was a bit of a disaster on the food front. We met friends for dinner at a cichette place (small plates italian style, or at least that's what they said at the place). It was pretty good! I had 2 glasses of wine and we shared a bunch of food. Then, fig tart and an espresso pudding thingy for dessert (also shared, but I probably ate most of it).

Totally my kind of meal, yum.

 Saturday I have a birthday party to attend and Sunday I am volunteering all day at my town's craft/antiques/general fair, which will also involve lots of not so healthy food. Monday is going to be ugly!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 04, 2012, 07:27:10 PM
Just resolve to do better next week, VP.  You'll be fine.
And MM, sorry your back hurts.

I think I was run over by a truck.  I've been battling allergy symptoms along with cough symptoms for weeks.  I don't think I've actually felt well since we returned from California.  I thought the Zyrtec was catching up with the allergies but today I've been worsening all day; my chest is heavy and it's getting hard to breath.  Off to the doctor tomorrow for me.  And I'm supposed to run a 5K on Saturday, my favorite one of the year.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 04, 2012, 07:29:49 PM
That is me exactly d. I am starting to think maybe its a particularly nasty virus. Sucks big time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 04, 2012, 07:48:57 PM
Singulair!!!!!

Came home to pizza, fries and onion rings. I cannot resist.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 04, 2012, 08:35:10 PM
that's some dinner, meri!

Not you too, RA.  Boo.  DH had this in reverse and his turned into bronchitis.  I am probably going to the MD tomorrow.  And b/c my doctor is off on Fridays, means my good friend's DH will be doing the exam.  :o
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 04, 2012, 08:54:54 PM
Mine was allergies that triggered asthma, that turned into laryngitis, and a dry hacking cough that lasted for WEEKS. I'd finally get rid of it, go for a run, and it would start again. Honestly, no matter what I took, nothing was ever quite enough. After 2 months in a row of not sleeping and losing my voice for a week each month, I went for acupuncture.

I've pretty much been drug-free since August now. That shit is amazing.

Food was okay today - we made semi-healthy mac & cheese and a salad for dinner and fed the in-laws, too. Then FIL took Reid and DH outside to throw the football so MIL and I could clean up the goddamn kitchen. I should have taken off my shoes. I'm already pregnant (they don't know), might as well be barefoot in the kitchen, too.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on October 05, 2012, 12:51:25 PM
I would have to go to my primary care dr to get referred to physical therapy.

It is just so odd because I didn't even do anything to injure myself in the first place.

Do you want the list of things my PT had me do when I hurt my back?  They really helped, and I still do them when it starts to get sore...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 05, 2012, 12:59:52 PM
that's some dinner, meri!

well, i had one piece of pizza and a handful of fries and one onion ring. Not too terrible, but not my healthy planned dinner. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 05, 2012, 01:12:44 PM
Do you want the list of things my PT had me do when I hurt my back?  They really helped, and I still do them when it starts to get sore...

Yes!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 05, 2012, 01:31:33 PM
Yes!

1!

Even though I despise doing PT exercises at home.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 05, 2012, 02:45:57 PM
cheaper and easier than going to the PT :D

I ran, felt good, only good run this week  :eyeroll: I must be hormonal still. I cried during Masterchef (finale) and a Verizon commercial. WTF?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on October 05, 2012, 03:32:07 PM
Ok...

She had me stand against a wall, and then arch my back in and out, trying to touch it flat against the wall, then back. 

Cat/cow or whatever it's called in yoga, where you are on your hands and knees, and arch your back up and down.

Cobra in yoga, where you lay on your stomach, put your hands beneath your shoulders, then push your upper body up.  Do this, then go back into child's pose. 

Stretch your hamstrings (this seems connected to back pain for many people).  Stand, feet about shoulder width apart, then let your upper body hang, supporting your weight with your hands/arms, getting a good stretch in your hamstrings. 

The other thing they had me do was because I'd kind of started walking with my hips all skewed, like holding one higher than the other.  They would have me stand, and purposefully push that hip back to level.  I would do it a lot.  Stand up, do it, stretch a bit, go back to work.  Repeat a lot.  They also had me lay on my back, with my legs bent, and put a small ball of some sort underneath my lower back area, and do some self massage to break up the inflamation (or something). 

Also, if you have a foam roller, you can lay on it longways.  Like with it parallel to your spine, hands out in a T shape.  It helps stretch.  My PT also had me use it on my hamstrings.  She also had me use the big exercise ball to really stretch, arching my back over it, like you were doing a back bend. 

When I first started doing this stuff, it was very gently, because it hurt.  But I kept at it, and lo and behold, it got better.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on October 05, 2012, 07:24:13 PM
Those are great tips Courtney.... thanks for posting.

 This week at work has been exhausting.   I must still be hormonal too because pretty much everything has annoyed the shit out of me.  I desperately need a run.   I've not ran all week and it is making me frustrated.  I'm so glad for the weekend.

I also inhaled a large pizza with DH last night.  Oops.

Have any of you seen the commercial about the  layaway giveaway gasp?  I think it is for Kmart.  It has a lady on it gasping.  Well every single time it comes on the kids freak out and yell MOMMY!!  They think it is me.   It is funny at how they react to it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 06, 2012, 11:55:53 AM
How funny!  I guess I could see that.


I had a miserable night: woke up every hour with my whole body hurting, especially head in sinus area and my back.  When it came time to wake up this morning and go to the race I couldn't catch my breath and head was killing me.  I managed to down some advils, mucinex and went back to bed for two hours and my fever broke.  But I am super bummed that I missed the fun race.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 06, 2012, 05:43:09 PM
I'm glad your fever broke, but that's a bummer about the race, diablita. :(

I'm trying to figure out how to get my in-laws out of my house so I can get dressed for my dinner date with DH. Hmmmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 07, 2012, 08:20:21 AM
I am just going to bail on my run today. Rainy and cold. My back hurts and I am cranky!!! I feel really fat and am up like 10lbs, though i hope it is preovulatory bloat, because nothing i do would account for 10lbs! HOLY CRAP! I had been up about 4-5lbs. I am just going to relish in my crankiness today and maybe take DD shopping. We have a lot of handmedowns but not a lot of pants for her since she refuses to wear jeans.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 07, 2012, 02:21:24 PM
 :hug: meri

and we went through the 'no pants' phase this past summer

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on October 07, 2012, 02:28:28 PM
Hope you get some stress relief meri.

I forced myself to run this morning ....only 2.5 miles but its a start.  Kids slept in this morning and now we're on the way to meet Diablita and see the Fresh Beat Band.  I'm expecting all of the kids to love it.  I'm planning on a drink beforehand.  :). I've got my camera so hoping for pictures to share later.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 07, 2012, 04:31:01 PM
Did okay for breakfast and lunch, only to have DH suggest that we go to Mighty Fine for dinner. It's one of my favorite places, and absolutely delicious, but not exactly healthy.

http://mightyfineburgers.com/#/home (http://mightyfineburgers.com/#/home)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 07, 2012, 05:34:05 PM
DD will wear pants, just not jeans and all our hand me downs are high end jeans  :grr:

We went to Kohls and she got 4 or 5 pairs of pants, very cute, and i got three work tops. I am exhausted and just feel blah, not sure if it is the dreary weather or what. I can barely move off the couch. I do not think i am sick.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on October 09, 2012, 12:39:24 AM
I am now CONVINCED wheat is my enemy. Not necessarily gluten. Just wheat.

 :(

I really like bread, breaded chicken, soups and chowders thickened with flour, chicken pot pie, pie, cookies, cake, etc etc. But when I eat it, my gut gets all bloaty and chubby. So goodbye cruel wheat. Again. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on October 09, 2012, 06:22:33 AM
 >:( Dang.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 09, 2012, 07:30:36 AM
I am now CONVINCED wheat is my enemy. Not necessarily gluten. Just wheat.

 :(

I really like bread, breaded chicken, soups and chowders thickened with flour, chicken pot pie, pie, cookies, cake, etc etc. But when I eat it, my gut gets all bloaty and chubby. So goodbye cruel wheat. Again.
:(

and i just feel fat. I am no long up 10 pounds, but still up, too much. I hate my body right now. I do not eat crap, i do not eat a lot, it just sucks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 09, 2012, 08:37:25 AM
yep, up about 8lbs still. Sigh. Eating tofu scramble for bfast because all my bfast ideas are too yummy (muffins, sweet breads) and even if they are low fat, etc, i still probably eat too much. I am definitely in a rut.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 09, 2012, 10:34:55 AM
I'm just effing bloated. I think it's the progesterone causing the worst of it. It had gone away and then suddenly started back up. I finally realized yesterday that it had gotten bad after they doubled my dose on Friday.  >:( Good news is that even with the in-laws and all their bad, bad food, I'm only up about 2 pounds from the weight I'd be fine with maintaining, and 7 up from my pre-pregnancy weight. But my goddamn jeans don't fit right.  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 09, 2012, 10:39:59 AM
Oh yes, progeterone will do that!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: joan on October 09, 2012, 11:02:42 AM
yep, up about 8lbs still. Sigh. Eating tofu scramble for bfast because all my bfast ideas are too yummy (muffins, sweet breads) and even if they are low fat, etc, i still probably eat too much. I am definitely in a rut.

I don't know how you do it. 
:(

and i just feel fat. I am no long up 10 pounds, but still up, too much. I hate my body right now. I do not eat crap, i do not eat a lot, it just sucks.

I don't know how you do it.  If I ate what you eat, I'd weigh 10 lbs.  I've been trying to eat healthier, but I still want to eat junk, junk, and more junk. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 09, 2012, 11:13:04 AM
Oh yes, progeterone will do that!

Yeah, it finally clicked yesterday that I'd been on the double dose for a few days and I looked at the side effects. INDEED, I do have bloating!!!  :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: Seems a little better today, actually.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 09, 2012, 11:53:10 AM
I don't know how you do it. 
I don't know how you do it.  If I ate what you eat, I'd weigh 10 lbs.  I've been trying to eat healthier, but I still want to eat junk, junk, and more junk.
i know, right? this is the big injustice in the world and i had every stinkin blood test drawn earlier in the year. Everything under the sun, i swear.

But in the car today my neck hurt and i have a palpable little lump, probably a lymph node, but i am going to go all hypochondriac and call the dr if it is still there tomorrow. Thyroid cancer i am sure, LOL!!!

and to add to my crankiness, there is lice at DD's school, i have not checked her yet (just dropped her off) but hope to FSM that she does not have it. I ran back to school with a hat for her and lice repellant spray.

and time to hop on the TM.
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Post by: Courtney on October 09, 2012, 12:08:26 PM
I am now CONVINCED wheat is my enemy. Not necessarily gluten. Just wheat.

 :(

I really like bread, breaded chicken, soups and chowders thickened with flour, chicken pot pie, pie, cookies, cake, etc etc. But when I eat it, my gut gets all bloaty and chubby. So goodbye cruel wheat. Again. 

I totally can empathize. 

I've had good luck using stuff like potatoes and corn starch to thicken stuff, and I've made some tasty stuff with oats & ground oat flour.  I made the worlds tastiest apple crips this weekend, and I have a TO DIE FOR oat cookie bar recpie that also has caramel and chocolate.  It's FUCKING AWESOME. 

In case I wasn't sure if gluten (or maybe just wheat, I guess I'm not 100% sure) was the problem, I accidentally ate it 3 times last week (did I tell y'all this already?), and I paid for it each time.  Jeez.  I went home feeling like shit, and did research and discovered that stuff I thought was ok at a restaurant, was actually not.  My bad, for not paying more attention and doing my homework before we got there.  But it was obvious that I'd eaten something with gluten/wheat.
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Post by: merigayle on October 09, 2012, 01:23:10 PM
well, i had a surprisingly good run. i needed that!
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Post by: Courtney on October 09, 2012, 02:36:31 PM
well, i had a surprisingly good run. i needed that!

I'm hoping to get one later today, in one form or another.  Treadmill or outside.  I'm just pissed because I forgot my headphones.   >:(  I like to watch stuff on my iPad when I run on the mill, but unless I can wrangle some up, that will not be happening. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 09, 2012, 02:52:09 PM
I want someone elses intestines. I am so fucking tired of diarrhea every single goddamned day...but I am 100%the healthy and it is totally normal if I try and talk to the dr. Wtf...it ain't normal!
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Post by: rocketgirl on October 09, 2012, 03:12:46 PM
I want someone elses intestines. I am so fucking tired of diarrhea every single goddamned day...but I am 100%the healthy and it is totally normal if I try and talk to the dr. Wtf...it ain't normal!

See a different doctor.  Maybe it's just IBS and there are patterns you can manage.  Or maybe you have a food intolerance. 

In the end it may be "normal for you" (as in IBS) to do everyday.  But it's not normal in general, and it should be investigated.
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Post by: merigayle on October 09, 2012, 03:48:31 PM
I want someone elses intestines. I am so fucking tired of diarrhea every single goddamned day...but I am 100%the healthy and it is totally normal if I try and talk to the dr. Wtf...it ain't normal!
yes see a different dr or get some acupuncture :D

it's like my seriously low BP, i have dizzy spells that make me almost keel over cause i see is starts, but no one seems to think it is an issue and commend me on how low it is. ftr, it is often 80/60 or 80/56, etc.
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Post by: diablita on October 09, 2012, 08:46:24 PM
yes see a different dr or get some acupuncture :D

it's like my seriously low BP, i have dizzy spells that make me almost keel over cause i see is starts, but no one seems to think it is an issue and commend me on how low it is. ftr, it is often 80/60 or 80/56, etc.

me too, meri
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Post by: nadra24 on October 09, 2012, 10:16:10 PM
Today I ran 30 minutes without stopping, and I didn't feel like I wanted to die at the end!  I think I am finally getting used to the altitude here (6800 feet, ew!)  Then we went to the community rec center to get memberships.  I'm not thrilled with the facility, but it's as good as it gets up here, and less than $400 for both of us for now through the end of 2013.  Plus it's across the street from my office so theoretically I could go on my lunch break.  We'll see.

On the way home, kenyan talked me into getting take and bake pizza.  Sigh.  It's in the oven, but not my favorite kind so I'll probably only have a slice or two. 
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Post by: merigayle on October 10, 2012, 08:27:53 AM
Nadra, this reminds me that i need to figure out how to start using my free gym membership! LOL. I will call them today if i remember.

I had every intention of waking up at 5:30 to run, but i had nightmares last night ( :( ) and just did not sleep well then DD woke up right before 6 and i stayed in her bed until 6:45. BUT my schedule will most likely work out that i can fit a run in before picking DD up.
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Post by: debbatx on October 10, 2012, 09:52:12 AM
*yawn* Apparently every site on the interwebs is down except Yammering, THANK GOD. Nothing at work is working correctly. Considering that everything we do requires one or both of our online databases, it's making it very difficult to actually do work.

The in-laws are gone, so we can start getting back to normal with food. I think we'll probably do leftovers tonight, just to clean out the fridge some, and go from there. I'm hoping that at my appointment on Friday, I'll get cleared to at least start walking again. Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed my medically-enforced laziness, but I'm starting to feel like a slug.
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on October 10, 2012, 09:54:55 AM
Nadra, this reminds me that i need to figure out how to start using my free gym membership! LOL. I will call them today if i remember.

I had every intention of waking up at 5:30 to run, but i had nightmares last night ( :( ) and just did not sleep well then DD woke up right before 6 and i stayed in her bed until 6:45. BUT my schedule will most likely work out that i can fit a run in before picking DD up.
I had nightmares last night, too. 

I have been pretty good about getting my workouts in, but i have not been calorie counting.  I have steadily gained weight. despite the fact that I don't eat crap. I am coming (back) to the realization that I cannot get away with not counting calories.  (sorry bout the double negative). So....back to counting I go.
Plus, I think I am pmsing. 

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Post by: merigayle on October 10, 2012, 10:02:49 AM
I had nightmares last night, too. 

I have been pretty good about getting my workouts in, but i have not been calorie counting.  I have steadily gained weight. despite the fact that I don't eat crap. I am coming (back) to the realization that I cannot get away with not counting calories.  (sorry bout the double negative). So....back to counting I go.
Plus, I think I am pmsing.
i know. right? this is ridiculous. If i do not count every single calorie that goes in my mouth i gain. And i am eating well. No junk, all healthy foods. Life sucks, dude! LOL.

Debba- glad we can entertain :)
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Post by: merigayle on October 10, 2012, 10:05:57 AM
well, poop! my last appt just booked, no running for me today, i should have just dragged myself out of bed this morning. UGH. it is like the 1000th rainy day in a row though. I am so sick of it, but it seems to be the end of the rain.
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Post by: debbatx on October 10, 2012, 10:25:13 AM
It's all misty this morning. Kind of a surprise, I don't think we were expecting it.
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Post by: triciaflower on October 11, 2012, 10:09:15 AM
I totally thought I was dreaming it was raining. Actually I DID dream I was in a rainstorm that turned into tornado falling out of the sky.  :panic:

When I woke up it was all dark and gloomy.  :( I need sunshine.
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Post by: mango on October 11, 2012, 10:33:54 AM
I totally thought I was dreaming it was raining. Actually I DID dream I was in a rainstorm that turned into tornado falling out of the sky.  :panic:

When I woke up it was all dark and gloomy.  :( I need sunshine.

I dream about rain and thunderstorms too sometimes, only to wake up and find it's all sunny and glowy outside (like today).

And that actually saddens me often, as I generally much prefer glum and gloomy weather. It suits me much better, and makes me feel less alone and out of place.

Anyway... sending all the sunshine your way~
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Post by: debbatx on October 11, 2012, 11:27:18 AM
Reid *swore* to me last night that he could "hear the rain." I was like, "Yeah, that's nice, PLEASE go to sleep."

And then I heard the rain. Oops.

I've added a Luna bar to my lunch. I've been craving something sweet around that time, and binging on Reese's Minis probably isn't the best decision. We'll see if it helps.
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Post by: merigayle on October 11, 2012, 11:50:31 AM
some of those luna bars are really good!!!
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Post by: debbatx on October 11, 2012, 12:22:25 PM
The peppermint ones are *fabulous* for dealing with nausea.
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Post by: merigayle on October 11, 2012, 01:04:15 PM
oh yes those are tasty :) i usually get a few luna bars for my races and that is one i always get. There is a coconut one that is good and a macadamia nut one, which is funny because i do not like macadamia nuts in other things! LOL.

I just had a really good run and now time to go to work. Shower first. LOL. I am starting to feel a bit energized about running again. Still feel like a fatso, but whatever, that too shall pass. This describes me exactly:


(http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1344478936200_8378665.png)
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Post by: debbatx on October 11, 2012, 01:22:48 PM
I'm pretty sure I *am* a busted can of biscuits at this point.


Mmmmmmm. Biscuits.
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Post by: Courtney on October 11, 2012, 03:44:50 PM
oh yes those are tasty :) i usually get a few luna bars for my races and that is one i always get. There is a coconut one that is good and a macadamia nut one, which is funny because i do not like macadamia nuts in other things! LOL.

I just had a really good run and now time to go to work. Shower first. LOL. I am starting to feel a bit energized about running again. Still feel like a fatso, but whatever, that too shall pass. This describes me exactly:


(http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1344478936200_8378665.png)

I love that.  :D 

My weight is up FOUR POUNDS from monday.  WTF?  I know it can't be for real.  But jeez.
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Post by: merigayle on October 11, 2012, 06:26:44 PM
I love that.  :D 

My weight is up FOUR POUNDS from monday.  WTF?  I know it can't be for real.  But jeez.
story of my life!!!  :hug:
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Post by: merigayle on October 11, 2012, 08:03:14 PM
and i came home from work FAMISHED and DH had a big bowl of pasta waiting for me. Sigh. It was good.
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Post by: diablita on October 11, 2012, 08:58:45 PM
I've been carefully watching for the last few days b/c we went to the Arboretum this evening with a photographer friend and had our pictures taken.  After that, all bets were off, we went to a yummy Mexican place where I ate my weight in refried beans.  Now I'm happy.  :D
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Post by: triciaflower on October 11, 2012, 10:54:24 PM
I'm pretty sure I *am* a busted can of biscuits at this point.


Mmmmmmm. Biscuits.

 :roll: and..  :hug:
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Post by: cgraz on October 12, 2012, 07:01:51 AM
I just couldn't help eating a burger from Five Guys last night. But, I'd had a light lunch (yogurt, string cheeese, crackers) and had run 2.5 in the morning...so I was actually still within points for the day, counting the activity.

It was kind of a stressful week, and I enjoyed the hell out of that burger, so even though this morning's weigh-in was only a loss of about a pound, I am still pleased. I mean, when you've had a plumber at your house for two days, and you had to call the city to clear the sewer main on your street because you (literally) have a bunch of crap in your sump well, and you've just signed off on the financing for over $17K in sewer line repairs scheduled for next week...

Sometimes you just need a burger. With bacon. And cheese.

But I didn't get fries, so I am still in control.   ;)
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Post by: diablita on October 12, 2012, 07:27:13 AM
ouch! 

We're having very pricy water line work done here, though our "community" (5 of the 7 households are solvent) may not have to pay for it; still waiting to find out.  After this, we pay to fix the road.  And our bill to protect the trees...  I may just need a veggie burger today.  :d
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Post by: Run Amok on October 12, 2012, 10:47:24 AM
Bleah. Was not as good as I could have been on this most recent trip. I need to clean out my bag and just toss the shit I bought at the airport yesterday. Today I am back on track! At least I ran most of the time I was there.
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Post by: VP of Tea on October 12, 2012, 11:11:39 AM
Cgraz, sorry you are having sewage issues, yikes!

diablita, now that Sue has a new avator I keep thinking she is you. I just need to read the name, obviously.

My dinner last night: A large Gary Coffee (so termed by my family for my husband, who introduced them to latte's with booze) and a stroopwafel. Not so austere. Or nutritious. But it tasted fabulous! :D
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on October 12, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
I love that.  :D 

My weight is up FOUR POUNDS from monday.  WTF?  I know it can't be for real.  But jeez.

Seriously!  My friend texted me yesterday to say she thought they put something in the food at the place we were at because she gained 2 lbs.  Ahd she has gaine 2 lbs that she has been holding on to all summer.. so she's gained 4..

I was like wtf.. I can gain 6 lbs in a day if I've had salt and 2 just from the fact that I might not have pooped yet!
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Post by: debbatx on October 12, 2012, 12:20:35 PM
Okay, so I was told today at my 8-week appointment that my target weight gain is 15 pounds.  :o Considering the only thing currently keeping the nausea at bay is eating, I'm pretty sure I'm screwed.
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Post by: Bolloxd on October 12, 2012, 02:16:32 PM
Holy crap (heh) $17K in sewer repair!?  It's a shitty job but someone has to do it.

David caught a bug at the concert last weekend.  Sneezing, runny nose, and some coughing with a slight fever.   Now DH and Rachel has it.... I'm sure to be next, but fingers crossed I miss it entirely.

My running has been crap.  Yesterday I took the kids on a mile long trail walk, then put them to bed for a nap so that I could go run.  What did I do?  I laid on the couch with my running gear and shoes on and fell asleep.  Gah.  I know I need to run and I WANT to run, but then I don't. 

I got a nice ego boost last night.  I was working at a different pharmacy to help them out and got hit on twice!  I was asked if I was married... umm, yep.  Happily married?? Yes, for 12 years!  It was kinda cute if the guy wasn't picking up needles to shoot up drugs with.  Later another guy came in and was smiling & winking at me... he had tattoos all over and a teardrop tattooed on his face.   :skeered:  It must be the pink hair.

Working all weekend and I'm so not looking forward to it.
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Post by: debbatx on October 12, 2012, 02:25:34 PM
Well, at least work is exciting!!
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Post by: merigayle on October 12, 2012, 02:36:44 PM
Debba- yeah that seems unrealistic. I think it is in one of my preggo books, maybe Henci Goers, where it talks about how wrong it is to put limits on women that are unrealistic, and even worse, to pretty overweight women to gain ZERO weight. I understand they do not want everyone gaining 100 lbs, but let's be realistic! My good friend gains about 70 lbs each pregnancy no matter what she does, eats, or exercises, it is how her body works. One of my midwives gained 80lbs in her pregnancy.

Anywho, had a crazy busy day at work which resulted in no running :( I really need to drag my ass out of bed at the butt crack of dawn again.
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Post by: debbatx on October 12, 2012, 02:49:30 PM
15-25 lbs is the recommended weight gain for pregnant women in my range. I'm on the higher end of that range, so 15 is the goal. I don't need to gain weight. There's plenty there for the baby as it is, although it would be nice if it would stop siphoning my brain cells and use the conveniently located belly fat instead.  :eyeroll:

I'll figure out a way to do it. As long as I'm eating well overall, I'm cool with it. If I gain fluid, well... I can't really control that.
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Post by: nadra24 on October 12, 2012, 05:08:23 PM
So I went to the rec center on Wednesday and did a bit of weight lifting today.  I knew I'd be feeling it today so I tried to go super easy, but ho.ly.crap I'm so sore today!  My lower body is fine, but my shoulders and triceps are killing me, I can barely lift my arms up over my head.  It's pathetic, really.  More weight training is in my future for sure...just not today.
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Post by: triciaflower on October 14, 2012, 12:12:00 AM
Well I'm feeling pretty crappy today. One of my dogs dug under the fence, ran out into traffic and got hit by a car. He didn't make it.  :(

I feel a lot better than I did when I got the phone call this morning from a good samaritan who tried to stop him from running into the street. The person who hit him sped away.

She was crying. I was crying. She picked him up, took off his collar, got him out of the street until DH could get there.

My other dog is devastated. I have not posted this on fb yet.
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Post by: nadra24 on October 14, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
Oh tricia, I'm so sorry.
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Post by: Run Amok on October 14, 2012, 12:22:12 AM
Oh, how heartbreaking! I'm so sorry. :(
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Post by: cgraz on October 14, 2012, 06:39:11 AM
Oh my gosh tricia, I'm so very sorry.
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Post by: merigayle on October 14, 2012, 07:10:11 AM
OMG Tricia, that is so terrible and horrible and sad and devestating. I am so sorry for your loss.  :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Post by: diablita on October 14, 2012, 08:31:55 AM
Oh Tricia, I am so, so sorry.   :hug: :hug:
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Post by: merigayle on October 14, 2012, 04:02:06 PM
Bday party for DD's friend. No vegetarian food so i ate some bagel chips and half piece of cake, could have been worse! There was some pizza for the kids, but not even enough for each kid to have one piece! And the parents were really weird. The father is ery gay and he was fighting with his mom and wife, it was crazy. And they do no own a cutting board!!!
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Post by: triciaflower on October 14, 2012, 04:18:01 PM
Thanks everyone. I feel so much better today, though I miss him terribly.
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Post by: Run Amok on October 14, 2012, 04:32:10 PM
Be kind to yourself Tricia.  :hug:

I hopped on the scale today and gained myself most if the way through a decade. Pulled out my idiet book to begin again. :)
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Post by: rocketgirl on October 14, 2012, 04:41:56 PM
Oh Tricia!  So sorry!   :hug:
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Post by: debbatx on October 14, 2012, 05:51:27 PM
Aw, damn, Tricia, I'm so sorry. :(
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Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on October 15, 2012, 04:43:18 AM
Thanks everyone. I feel so much better today, though I miss him terribly.

I'm just logging on here, and I'm so sorry for your loss Tricia. :(   :hug:
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Post by: cgraz on October 15, 2012, 06:39:14 AM
I'm sure you will miss him for a while, tricia. Again, I'm so sorry.  :(

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Post by: onawhim on October 15, 2012, 09:27:07 AM
Tricia :hug:
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Post by: Courtney on October 15, 2012, 10:26:23 AM
Oh Tricia, I'm sorry!!!  That's a terrible thing to go thru.   :hug: :hug:

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Post by: merigayle on October 15, 2012, 12:56:17 PM
So I am trying to be REALLY good about food this week. I feel really fat and unattractive and only want to wear hoodies. I also do not want DH to touch me. It is really bad. Not sure what the hell is going on, but the number on the scale ain't great either :( I actually stopped eating my lunch when i felt the first "full" feeling, whereas i would usually finish what i portioned out for myself as it is already portioned. Ugh. I hope I snap out of this.
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Post by: Run Amok on October 15, 2012, 01:14:37 PM
Oh meri, I'm sorry.  :hug:

I am in the same place this week though, kind of. I'm feeling disgusted with myself for having gained 7lbs...even though my low was attained unreasonably... and 7lbs is probably not bad considering how I lost it, there have been 2 business trips in the past 3 weeks, and my overall loosey-goosey approach to eating lately.

So, today is day 1. Except, I have lunch with a friend. I've convinced her to go here (http://www.specialtys.com/2012/ (http://www.specialtys.com/2012/)) with me for lunch. They are sort of like panera, except way better- but their soups and salads are decent caloriewise. So, I'll probably get a soup, toss the roll and come back and eat the sandwhich I packed after lunch.

My plans is to start over with phase1 of the i-diet-except not totally lambaste myself if I end up eating out a meal or two (and try and keep it reasonable when I do). The big things will be no booze, no candy, and if I am not eating out- eating something off the phase 1 menu.

So, wish me luck!

Started the day with 1 slice of sprouted wheat/high fiber bread with 1tsp of pb and 1ts p of jam and half an apple. About to eat my snack of 2/3 cup of 2% yogurt, 1tsp of jam and 6 almonds. Lunch in an hour. Dinner will probably be two veggie dogs +sauteed onions, peppers, and a salad. DD has her counseling appointment at 4pm and we still have grocery shopping to do, which means dinner will be late- that is the big danger zone for me!
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Post by: merigayle on October 15, 2012, 01:22:10 PM
good luck to you too :) I have not tasted DD's mac n cheese yet :D That is a big one. I have a halloween party to go to Saturday and that is going to be tough. Ugh. I feel like i could make excuses until New Year's if i tried. I actually got asked to pace for the Atlantic City marathon this weekend and said no. I am just feeling way too fat. I have plans, but if i was not feeling so fat and out of shape, i would have totally jumped on that opportunity.
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Post by: Run Amok on October 15, 2012, 01:33:45 PM
That is very true. I made excuses for YEARS before I finally decided to really change things. I mean, you're in a really different spot than I was... but there is always an excuse lurking right around the corner. I started losing weight a few days before christmas last time and managed to survive. ;) But, I also know that if I don't nip it in the bud NOW it's a slippery, slippery slope that will land me right back where I started in no time flat.
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Post by: merigayle on October 15, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
The two big times in my life i lost a big chunk of weight, one was starting right before Thanksgiving, and the other was about the same time of year as well. LOL. I did just finish the rest of my lunch after DD went to sleep, BUT that is in lieu of looking for ADDITIONAL food to eat once she goes to sleep.
I eat really well, i do not overeat, but for some reason my body just hates me! I need to cut out all refined products. I know this, but it is so hard. I love to bake, and even if it is healthy baked stuff, it is still flour, albeit whole wheat, and sugar, even raw sugar or agave or brown rice syrup. It is really hard with a toddler who always wants to bake with me and make brownies, etc. I make black bean flourless ones, but still there is sugar in them. I just have to stay focused and motivated. I think I also need to wake up at 5:30am, but something always gets in the way of that!!! But really, i need to work on that, i felt a lot better when i did that, no missed workouts and i was able to do 2 a days many days a week.

This stuff was much easier when i lived by myself :D
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Post by: Run Amok on October 15, 2012, 02:12:36 PM
Meri- you are the most disciplined person I know. It is terribly unfair that you should be so disciplined and yet struggle so mightily.  :-\
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Post by: merigayle on October 15, 2012, 02:22:20 PM
Meri- you are the most disciplined person I know. It is terribly unfair that you should be so disciplined and yet struggle so mightily.  :-\
I agree :D :D :D There is no rhyme or reason to my body and it's willy nilly weight gain :D I know when i was eating macrobiotic 100% i lost weight, felt great, etc, but I also spent 2-3 hours a day cooking. I don't even have time to shower some days!!!! LOL. But I am trying to get back to some of those basics, like miso soup before every meal, including breakfast. I think this helps in many ways, first it is filling and almost no calories, and second, it gets your stomach ready for the food and promotes digestion etc. The latter is why it is recommended prior to every meal. Breakfast, as usual is always my toughest meal of the day. This morning I had miso soup and left over tempeh loaf. I have to just realize that i have to eat non breakfasty foods for breakfast and move on :D When I did the macrobiotics i ate steamed rice with gomasio on top (a mixture of sesame seeds and sea salt). Seriously. Every morning. With miso soup. The diet is a bit bland, what can i say? :D

Oh and now i am going to die from the arsenic in the rice.... i cannot win :D :D :D
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Post by: Run Amok on October 15, 2012, 03:38:42 PM
Hey, any diet that starts the day with gomasio, rice, and miso soup is ok by me!

I survived lunch with my friend. I had a cup of vegan chili. When I get hungry in a bit I'll eat my sandwich and apple. I brought black bean soup today so I'm really not too far off from what I'd planned anyway. I resisted the hunk of focaccia that was on my tray. My friend ate it for me so then I didn't have to feel guilty about tossing it. It's fresh, warm, and sooooooo good there. But, so was the lasgna I had for dinner last night... and I really can't have it all and not gain. So, no to the bread.  :d
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Post by: merigayle on October 15, 2012, 03:41:09 PM
mmmmm fresh bread is the best. So hard to resist! If i was on a deserted island and could only pick three foods, one would be bread and butter! I love it that much. I have no idea what dinner is going to be. I will figure it out soon i guess. I saw a recipe for a millet sweet potato casserole.
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Post by: triciaflower on October 15, 2012, 05:42:45 PM
Three foods I would pick would be candy corn, kitkats, almond joy.

Wait. Whaaat?
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Post by: merigayle on October 15, 2012, 06:47:18 PM
Three foods I would pick would be candy corn, kitkats, almond joy.

Wait. Whaaat?
mine would be ice cream, pizza and bread w butter :D
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on October 15, 2012, 06:58:20 PM
mine would be ice cream, pizza and bread w butter :D

Pizza, bread and butter and french fries!!!
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Post by: merigayle on October 15, 2012, 07:46:29 PM
Pizza, bread and butter and french fries!!!
ooooh. Curly fries?? i need some sweets though, so ice cream or birthday cake it would be! :D
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Post by: Run Amok on October 15, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Jeeze! I leave you people alone for like 5 minutes and you bust out the pizza, French fries, and Halloween candy!
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Post by: diablita on October 15, 2012, 09:23:33 PM
I know, right?!?  I've been bad for the last few days and feeling it.  I feel huge, too, but it does have to do with the snacking.    :hug: meri

We made a thunder run down to Trader Joe's (over an hour away) on Saturday and got their 100 calorie chocolate bars as nighttime snack.  I'm actually not a huge sweet dessert person but this usually does it for me.  I ate a bit too much potato at dinner time, but at least I haven't eaten any other snacks tonight.

austerity starts NOW  :d
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Post by: nadra24 on October 15, 2012, 09:42:46 PM
Trader Joe's opens up in SLC one month from tomorrow!  I am beyond excited, Kenyan totally makes fun of me for my love of Trader Joe's. 
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Post by: triciaflower on October 15, 2012, 10:17:00 PM
There's a Trader Joes opening up here too. CANNOT WAIT!!!!
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Post by: Run Amok on October 15, 2012, 11:54:42 PM
well, I was hungry when I went to Costco and I may have binged on produce. But, otoh, this program involves a fuckofalot of veggies, so ill probably make a good dent in the pile.

Veggie dogs and a salad for dinner. Day1 was a success! It really helps to already be out of the habit of booze, and carbs, and sweets...mostly.

I also made a big batch of applesauce to freeze and eat with my am yogurt.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 16, 2012, 10:01:21 AM
Day 2 off to a good start. Already finished off one giant tumbler of water and had my breakfast toast. I actually measured out the 1tsp portion of pb and jam today and found that I was using less than I'm allowed. I have an apple I can snack on in a little while, if I'm hungry, which was meant to be part of my breakfast... but I might just wait until snack #1, which is yogurt & homemade apple sauce (yum!).

Lunch is black bean soup, plus a cheese & veggie sandwich (I got some of those "flat out" bread thingies someone here seemed to like)... and my apple if I don't eat it. Not sure about dinner yet or afternoon snack yet. Maybe a bean burrito with sauteed veggies and a salad. Need to grab a few more things at the grocery store tonight.

The major difference this time around is that I'm working out. Last time I wasn't. I remember Diabolita had a hard time on this plan while she was running... so I'll have to keep an eye on that. Mostly I think I will need to make sure I actually eat all my calories. This plan does a good job of controlling hunger and I find that one of the more challenging aspects is actually eating all the meals and snacks. I do find I do a little better with eating everything if I eat my morning and afternoon snacks together in the afternoon.  So, I might decide to make those changes later, and that might also help me follow the plan and keep up my running, but for now I'm trying to follow the plan.

I also no longer have regular access to a scale... so I'll just have to weigh myself periodically when I'm at the house. Not ideal because I can't do the consistent "first thing in the morning" weight... but that's ok.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 16, 2012, 11:19:34 AM
This morning i had a nice big cup of tea and miso soup and then went running with the jogging stroller  :o There was no where good to pop a squat, it was rough! LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on October 16, 2012, 12:49:56 PM
There's a Trader Joes opening up here too. CANNOT WAIT!!!!

Allegedly here as well.   :fingers:

I just found a big stash of candy pumpkins.  This is B.A.D.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 16, 2012, 12:58:19 PM
Allegedly here as well.   :fingers:

I just found a big stash of candy pumpkins.  This is B.A.D.

Throw them away!!!!

I say that, and it's a great idea, but I can't do it.

I bought a bag of candy on my last business trip. I only at a few pieces and then I found myself eating a few pieces each evening. I decided that I needed to go back on my diet, so even though I didn't *want* them, I went ahead and finished the rest of the bag. Because, I can't throw candy away, and DD doesn't need to eat it either.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 16, 2012, 02:13:09 PM
I am up weight wise but I am back on the running wagon. I just wish my back didnt hurt...my dr did give me the strong advil at my appointment yesterday though so maybe that will help. We did 5 miserable miles yesterday sfter I napped for 3 hours. Do vaccines make yall tired? I cannot figure out why I was so exhausted yesterday.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 16, 2012, 02:35:27 PM
Depend on the vax. Some can make you feel kinda punky for a few days, yes.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 16, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
Depend on the vax. Some can make you feel kinda punky for a few days, yes.

I had TDaP and Flu. I cannot think of any other reason why I was so tired.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on October 16, 2012, 03:47:04 PM
Throw them away!!!!

I say that, and it's a great idea, but I can't do it.

I bought a bag of candy on my last business trip. I only at a few pieces and then I found myself eating a few pieces each evening. I decided that I needed to go back on my diet, so even though I didn't *want* them, I went ahead and finished the rest of the bag. Because, I can't throw candy away, and DD doesn't need to eat it either.

Heh, they aren't my stash.  They are the office stash, in the candy bowl.  I don't even care that they are probalby germ covered since it's a common candy bowl.  I fucking love those little suckers. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 16, 2012, 06:56:20 PM
Shoot. Waited to long and didn't pack a pm lunch and now I'm staaaaarving. Now to make it home without making a poor decision!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 16, 2012, 07:22:08 PM
I hope you make it home ok, RA.


I just ate a bunch of bread, manchego and brie for dinner along with a lot of snow peas.  And I'm 1/4 of the way into a bottle of Layer Cake Malbec.  And I'm playing hooky from work tomorrow to go for a late morning hike with a friend and then to a favorite Indian restaurant.  And I need to have surgery (including skin graft) next month to remove a malignant melanoma.

Life is short.  Enjoy every moment.

 :smiliewine:
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Post by: rocketgirl on October 16, 2012, 08:52:36 PM
And I need to have surgery (including skin graft) next month to remove a malignant melanoma.


Um, what?!?!   :hug:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 16, 2012, 09:11:51 PM
So my stomach hurts..probably from a new prescription. Of course I totally convinced need myself that eating would help. It didn't.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 16, 2012, 09:53:31 PM
I always eat for an upset tummy too, and usually convince myself that something like mavncheese is just what I need!

Ugh, D, that is awful. So sorry. :( cheese and wine for dinner it is!

I managed to stay on track despite one of the roughest days I've had in a while. Drowning my sorrows in a bottle of wine sounds pretty fantastic right now.
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Post by: diablita on October 16, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
Good for you, RA.  extra points today.  I'm sorry it was a tough one, though.  Care to talk about it?


And yes, when your physician takes a pathology sample and then leaves you a voicemail during his lunch hour two days later, it ain't ever good.  Ironically I had just set up an interface for the same pathology lab w/ one of our local clients (not my derm) the week before.  And complimented them on 2 day turn-around for cancer cases and the quality of their readings.  So when my derm left tha msg two days later I knew it wouldn't be great.  It's very superficial melanoma, so hopefully will be removed (and grafted) and no more treatment required other than 3 month surveillance for a few years.   :fingers:
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Post by: triciaflower on October 16, 2012, 10:15:12 PM
Best wishes  :fingers: I'll be sending you good vibes!
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Post by: Bolloxd on October 16, 2012, 10:20:58 PM
Diablita, that sounds scary, but glad to hear they are so quick to get things moving forward.


I have been in the frumpy mindset lately too.  Like I can't be bothered to put in the effort anymore....to try to prevent the steep decline I've signed up for a half marathon at Myrtle Beach in February.  So, umm, I kinda need to get off my arse and start training.  DH has decided to train with me.  I may regret agreeing to that but we shall see.  He is also going to Montreal for 5 days to do some work so I'll be a single mom for a bit.   Heaven help me, and I may be crazy, but I'm planning on trying to kick off some potty training this weekend.  :panic:

It also seems I've gotten the cold everyone has had earlier in the week.  It's just started tonight with lots of drainage.   :wah:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 16, 2012, 10:45:17 PM
Well, D, sounds like the best possible outcome. Fingers still crossed though.

Nope, this one stays in the vault, but thanks for asking. Felling a might better after eating. Wish I'd run earlier, but I had nuthin left by the time I got home. Was supposed to go climbing tonight too ... But, I'm blowing off the world in favor of hiding under the covers. I even left the kitchen a mess's. It'll still be there tomorrow. ;)

B, training for a race is a great idea.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 16, 2012, 11:52:07 PM
Running didnt help my tummy either. :( But at least I ran when I really, really didnt feel like it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on October 17, 2012, 12:04:09 AM
Yikes, diablita!  Hope it all turns out ok.

RA, those FlatOuts make really good flatbread pizzas, especially if you have a pizza stone or if you bake them for a few minutes before you add toppings.
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Post by: diablita on October 17, 2012, 07:28:11 AM
That's a great idea, Nadra!

RA, I hope today is a better day.

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Post by: merigayle on October 17, 2012, 08:26:41 AM
diablita  :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: I am soooooo overdue for a derm visit :(

DD was up a lot last night and i got about 4 hours of sleep so no early morning run for me. I got most of my sleep 10-1 and 5-7  :grr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on October 17, 2012, 10:20:36 AM
Yikes, diablita!  Hope it all turns out ok.

RA, those FlatOuts make really good flatbread pizzas, especially if you have a pizza stone or if you bake them for a few minutes before you add toppings.

I wish I could find a good gluten free alternative like this.  I've got some pizza crusts, and they are good, but they are just more calories than I want for a light meal.  That used to be one of my go-to meals, flatbread pizzas.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 17, 2012, 10:47:33 AM
Yep, I'm looking forward to using them for pizza!

Mostly I try and just skip whatever the starch portion is of a meal- but sometimes it's nice to have a bit of "bread". I've become acustommed to skipping the bun with veggie dogs/sausages/burgers. My go-to meal on this diet is often a salad, a side of sauteed veggies and then either a veggie burger/sausage/hotdog. I should probably branch out... but it's just so easy! Lastnight I did a black bean pattie with sauteed cauliflower, onions and peppers that I spiced with curry powder, cumin and chili powder and a huge salad with romaine, spinach, pepers, onion, cukes, tomatoes and a little lemon/dijon mustard. Yummy, satisfying, super easy, and all of about 300 calories. I really don't miss the bun.

For some reason, though, for lunch I just can't do salad. It always feels like too much cold food. I need something warm mid day.

A bit hungry post breakfast today, might eat my mid-morning snack a bit early. I do have an extra apple and some grapes today though... should have plenty of food to get me through.

Running tonight. Come hell or high water, I am running tonight. Too easy to fall off the bandwagon the minute fall hits!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 17, 2012, 10:48:15 AM
can you make pizzas on a gluten free tortilla instead? i like this brand

http://www.foodforlife.com/products?tid_1=15&tid=All (http://www.foodforlife.com/products?tid_1=15&tid=All)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 17, 2012, 10:55:41 AM
I also like these a lot, but have been having a hard time finding them in they city. http://www.latortillafactory.com/products-3.aspx (http://www.latortillafactory.com/products-3.aspx) The big thing is that they are 80 calories and have 12g fiber and 9 g of protein. The diet I follow really emphasises protein and fiber so they fit in really well with that. I use them for pizzas, to make crackers, etc. The I usually buy a high fiber bread. I do like the flat out wraps though... so I might stick with those (also super convenient that I can get them at costco!).
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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 17, 2012, 11:26:29 AM
I also like these a lot, but have been having a hard time finding them in they city. http://www.latortillafactory.com/products-3.aspx (http://www.latortillafactory.com/products-3.aspx) The big thing is that they are 80 calories and have 12g fiber and 9 g of protein. The diet I follow really emphasises protein and fiber so they fit in really well with that. I use them for pizzas, to make crackers, etc. The I usually buy a high fiber bread. I do like the flat out wraps though... so I might stick with those (also super convenient that I can get them at costco!).

Those are what I use for tortillas.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on October 17, 2012, 12:10:56 PM
can you make pizzas on a gluten free tortilla instead? i like this brand

http://www.foodforlife.com/products?tid_1=15&tid=All (http://www.foodforlife.com/products?tid_1=15&tid=All)

Definitely!  I just haven't seen any GF tortillas (other than corn ones, which are not too bad topped with pizza stuff, but not quite what I'm looking for).  I wonder if they are in the frozen section, where the GF pizza crusts are? 
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Post by: debbatx on October 17, 2012, 02:03:07 PM
Diablita, that happened to me when I was 16, except I didn't need the graft. Good vibes to you!!! Where is it located? Mine was on my arm. I'm overdue for a derm visit, too. Just what I want to do while pregnant. :D

I don't even want to talk about food right now.  :-[
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 17, 2012, 02:21:40 PM
Definitely!  I just haven't seen any GF tortillas (other than corn ones, which are not too bad topped with pizza stuff, but not quite what I'm looking for).  I wonder if they are in the frozen section, where the GF pizza crusts are?
The Ezekiel stuff/Food for Life stuff is frozen. I eat their tortillas, bread, pitas, etc. It is sprouted grains, so may take a bit to get used to the flavor/texture, but i love them.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on October 17, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
The Ezekiel stuff/Food for Life stuff is frozen. I eat their tortillas, bread, pitas, etc. It is sprouted grains, so may take a bit to get used to the flavor/texture, but i love them.

Is sprouted grain gluten free?  I have not really looked at any of that at the store, because I assumed it wasn't.  Maybe I should check again...
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Post by: Run Amok on October 17, 2012, 04:14:40 PM
Is sprouted grain gluten free?  I have not really looked at any of that at the store, because I assumed it wasn't.  Maybe I should check again...

Not if it's wheat. It looks like they do have a rice product. I think la tortilla factory makes a GF wrap from teff & millet though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on October 17, 2012, 04:26:29 PM
Sheesh, I fall of the wagon for a week and we have all sorts of shit hitting the fan.

Tricia, I am so sorry about your dog, that must have been heart breaking.  :hug:

Diablita, yikes, malignant melanoma sounds scary and I hope that it is indeed easily fixed with surgery (next month?)!  :fingers: for you.

Merigayle, I don't understand how you can possibly not be at ideal weight with the healthy way you eat and the amount of exercise you do! Life is not fair.

Bolloxd, good luck with potty training! You are a brave soul.

I am not making any progress on the eating well/exercising front and I'm totally not motivated to change anything. At least I don't really like halloween candy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 17, 2012, 04:42:11 PM
Someone here (D?) suggested this soup. I picked some up recently and I woudl second it as a recomendation. Only 60 calories/cup. I'm a little more hungry after lunch than I typically am when I do a bean soup. But, it was tasty anyway! Your 60 calories buys you 2 grams each of protein and fiber. :)

(http://www.imaginefoods.com/sites/www.imaginefoods.com/files/hcgproducts/menu/creamy_gardenbroccoli_lis.png?1324017345)
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Post by: merigayle on October 17, 2012, 04:57:11 PM
Some of the Ezekiel stuff is gluten free, but not all.

Yeah, life is not fair  :bat: i should be a size two :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 17, 2012, 06:37:00 PM
RA, yes that's the soup we love.  On Monday I cooked this fabu meal with fresh potatoes and greens from our farm share and chicken and DD begged for the broccoli soup instead.  :skep:

We buy the one that's not light in sodium.  It doesn't seem high though.  I guess I should look at the salt content.
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Post by: Run Amok on October 17, 2012, 07:36:14 PM
I didn't buy the light sodium one either that's just the pic I found. In fact,I added more salt!

I am laying on the couch. Soooooo tired. Don't feel like running.  :wah:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on October 17, 2012, 08:32:01 PM
Tricia, I am so sorry about your dog, that must have been heart breaking.  :hug:

thanks.  :)

I LOVE Ezekiel bread! It's a little dense for sandwiches imo, so I usually just have an open-faced sandwich.

Those tortillas look good. I've seen that brand in our stores, looking forward to trying them. I like how there is no fake sugar (or any sugar for that matter!) in them. I've tried to buy those little deli flats and ALL of them have sucralose in them. YUK.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 17, 2012, 11:16:57 PM
The flat out ones don't have sucralose. The do have malatol and sugar and generally are "food".

The thing that always surprises me about this diet is how much food it is. I branched our a bit and made a bean burrito- beans, cheese, salsa, sour cream, sauteed veggies and a big salad. Full and satisfied.

Did my run and of course felt better.

Made dd a pot of potato soup. So tempting to eat a big bowl, but I made my dinner, and roasted a spaghetti squash for another night.

Then I hyperventilated about the state of my kitchen, cleaned it, took the dog for a walk and am finally sitting down to watch a bit of tv before bed. So much to do but I give up. Having a bit of a pity party about doing it all myself everyday. #sigh#
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 18, 2012, 07:26:23 AM
RA- that is my kitchen daily  :eyeroll: we do too much cooking! LOL. Anywho, did you see the spaghetti squash with avocado sauce recipe i made recently? it was soooo good. Have a spaghetti squash for later this week for it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on October 18, 2012, 08:56:30 AM
We cook every day. Our kitchen is always a disaster. It's a never-ending cycle. Clean the kitchen. cook cook cook. Dirty kitchen. Lazy lazy. Clean. cook cook cook.
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Post by: merigayle on October 18, 2012, 09:03:57 AM
We cook every day. Our kitchen is always a disaster. It's a never-ending cycle. Clean the kitchen. cook cook cook. Dirty kitchen. Lazy lazy. Clean. cook cook cook.
yeppers.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 18, 2012, 09:25:38 AM
We cook every day. Our kitchen is always a disaster. It's a never-ending cycle. Clean the kitchen. cook cook cook. Dirty kitchen. Lazy lazy. Clean. cook cook cook.

That comment could probably use some explanation. I cook every day and clean every day. But, my new kitchen is much smaller/less counter space and it just feels like it gets covered in crap really quickly. Also, DH was a neat freak. So, although I'd generally pick up- he did a lot of cleaning too. If I left something to grab later- 90% of the time, he'd just take care of it.  He also cooked at least half the time.

wHaving to do it all, all my self, every single day is just exhausting, hence the whambulance. I mean... I did it myself for 5-6 years (though admittedly, I didn't cook much at home in those days). It's just an adjustment period to have to handleeveryfuckingthing myself. My car needs a new windshield and I have a tire that needs to be looked at, dd needs to go to the dr and have a wart on her finger frozen off, and she's due for a dentist appointment, and there is a lightbulb and two door handles I need to fix.  :'( So... it's not just about the kitchen.
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Post by: diablita on October 18, 2012, 09:37:29 AM
 :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on October 18, 2012, 09:57:18 AM
thanks.  :)

I LOVE Ezekiel bread! It's a little dense for sandwiches imo, so I usually just have an open-faced sandwich.

Those tortillas look good. I've seen that brand in our stores, looking forward to trying them. I like how there is no fake sugar (or any sugar for that matter!) in them. I've tried to buy those little deli flats and ALL of them have sucralose in them. YUK.

No big loss, those flat sandwich things taste like shit, IMHO.  I much preferred light bread, the sara lee kind.  Back in the day, when bread was something I did.  :(  I do good like 90% of the time with this whole GF thing, but every once in a while, I'm sad for the absence of bread in my life.  I love(d) sandwiches.

RA,  :hug: 

We had our annual health screenings today at work.  I'm healthy, but fat.  *sigh*  My glucose was actually a bit high today, tho.  It's usually in the 90s, and today it was 111.  So that concerns me.  Oh, and the "being obese" thing.   :incazzato:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on October 18, 2012, 11:04:57 AM

wHaving to do it all, all my self, every single day is just exhausting, hence the whambulance. I mean... I did it myself for 5-6 years (though admittedly, I didn't cook much at home in those days). It's just an adjustment period to have to handleeveryfuckingthing myself. My car needs a new windshield and I have a tire that needs to be looked at, dd needs to go to the dr and have a wart on her finger frozen off, and she's due for a dentist appointment, and there is a lightbulb and two door handles I need to fix.  :'( So... it's not just about the kitchen.

Welcome to my life.  I hate asking for help even though sometimes I want it desperately.  But I'm scared to accept help sometimes for fear of having to re-adjust to no help.  I'm a mess.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 18, 2012, 11:52:02 AM
so 4 days into eating super duper clean, nothing refined, no sugar, nothing. I am up 2 lbs. WTF body. I am so sick of this. Just needed to rant, now time to hop on TM :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: omega lambda on October 18, 2012, 01:11:27 PM
We cook every day. Our kitchen is always a disaster. It's a never-ending cycle. Clean the kitchen. cook cook cook. Dirty kitchen. Lazy lazy. Clean. cook cook cook.

This is us now too.  In the last couple of years, I would say our eating habits have really changed into better habits.  It was hit or miss so much of the time because of the availability of decent and inexpensive restaurant/takeout food.  It was way too easy to be too tired to cook, or it's too late to cook.  Since we've been spending the majority of our time in the mountains, the nearest restaurant is a 20 minute drive from our house, and the others are about 30 minutes.  Our habits really changed when all our meals were more convenient at home.  The biggest change though, is how much more often I'm running the dishwasher!  I enjoy eating more home-made meals, and am thrilled the habit continues when we are in SoCal where fast and inexpensive food is 5 minutes away.  But the never-ending cycle of cooking (the fun part) and the cleaning (the not so fun part) does get a tad tedious.  If I could do the cooking and magic brownies did all the cleaning while I worked or relaxed, my world would be perfect.  :D

RA and Caito -  :hug: :hug: :hug:  I would gladly share my magic brownies if I had some.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 18, 2012, 02:25:07 PM
It is a difficult balance- for sure- being mindful of eating healthy and convenience. These days, it's not TOO tough to come up with hitting your calorie targets with prepared items... but, for me, the taste and satisfaction isn't there. 1200 calories a day of lean cuisine and canned soup would leave me starving! The flip side of that is that it takes some time even to assemble simple things. Like last night, the only cooking for myself that I did was to sautee some veggies and make a salad. Which really isn't a big deal- but yeah, it's slightly more effort than popping something in the freezer or grabbing take out.

Part of it is also that I know that if I stay ahead of it, it's a little easier. So, if I'm chopping salad veggies, I chop enough for a couple of days. It's not a huge deal to roast some squash off for another night. But, before I know it I have messy counters and pans to clean and things to pack up and put away and and and and...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on October 18, 2012, 02:54:58 PM
DH leaves this evening for his trip and I have that full blown snotty cold.  Blah.  Will add more when I get kids to bed.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 18, 2012, 03:07:13 PM
Bolloxd-- feel better!

It is a difficult balance- for sure- being mindful of eating healthy and convenience. These days, it's not TOO tough to come up with hitting your calorie targets with prepared items... but, for me, the taste and satisfaction isn't there. 1200 calories a day of lean cuisine and canned soup would leave me starving! The flip side of that is that it takes some time even to assemble simple things. Like last night, the only cooking for myself that I did was to sautee some veggies and make a salad. Which really isn't a big deal- but yeah, it's slightly more effort than popping something in the freezer or grabbing take out.

Part of it is also that I know that if I stay ahead of it, it's a little easier. So, if I'm chopping salad veggies, I chop enough for a couple of days. It's not a huge deal to roast some squash off for another night. But, before I know it I have messy counters and pans to clean and things to pack up and put away and and and and...
i generally make most of our meals for the week on Sundays and Mondays, it makes it a real nobrainer on the nights i get home from work late or what to take for lunch.

Ugh. I am debating going to see my dr, but i had a billion blood tests drawn earlier in the year, i think 9-10 vials and about 30-40 tests, and nothing came up except my zinc was on the low side. Not sure if it is worth the time and money to go talk to her and since i am not fat, though 20lbs over where i was prepregnancy, no one really wants to take me seriously.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 18, 2012, 03:59:32 PM
I like the idea of weekend cooking, but it just seems like our weekends are so busy that by the time I get to sunday evening, the last thing I want to do is anything more than absolutely necessary. This week, I was unpacking groceries at 9:30pm on sunday. Some of it is still just finding the balance of when to clean the house, and grocery shop, and run errands, and still have a life... kwim?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 18, 2012, 04:13:42 PM
A life?? What is this life of which you speak?



In other news, I have a celebratory pint of ice cream in the freezer. My class is over tonight. WOOOHOOO!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on October 18, 2012, 04:16:34 PM
I made it through the day without going to the snack machine.   It was touch and go there for a while. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 18, 2012, 07:22:44 PM
Yay Debba!  Congrats on finishing!

And Yay MD, congrats on not finishing or starting (the snack)

I was pretty good today.  A bit of snacking, but mostly on snow peas.  I need a day or two to get myself back down to full austerity again.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 18, 2012, 07:48:26 PM
I came home to a piping hot pizza and put it away (on the counter, not in me!) and ate my lentils and broccoli. I also ignored the fresh loaf of bread on the counter. This all better be worth it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 18, 2012, 08:15:58 PM
yay meri!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on October 18, 2012, 09:35:39 PM
Wow, y'all are demonstrating some good willpower there!

I had a short nap this afternoon which helped me feel better but still rough.  We went to the airport early so the kids could watch the airplanes.  They thought it was fun but seemed to get scared with the loud noises, even though it wasn't *that* loud.  Once we got back home and settled in they asked to go to bed at 8:30...which rarely happens but I took advantage of it.  I've cleaned up the house a bit, and just surfing until I'm bored.

Once this cold is gone I'm getting back on the wagon.  I must.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on October 19, 2012, 07:18:11 AM
I came home to a piping hot pizza and put it away (on the counter, not in me!) and ate my lentils and broccoli. I also ignored the fresh loaf of bread on the counter. This all better be worth it.

Who made it or brought it into the home, knowing that you are trying to lose weight?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on October 19, 2012, 07:36:23 AM
Checking in on my weigh-in day...another 2 lbs down, so since the end of June I have now lost 20 lbs. I'd like to get down another 8 or 9, but I already feel pretty good about the changes I see so far.  :)

Things have been really busy this week with work - a series of 12-13 hour days left me with little or no time to run, and I even had to miss yoga last night because I really had to finish up some work before we go away for this weekend's races in PA. So I am happy about still having a loss, because the high-stress times with long days like that were always when I'd end up in the Wendy's drive-thru! Instead, this week I did manage to pack my lunch, and had a salad the day I ate at Panera. Yesterday at lunch with a colleague (who is a big-time food pusher!) I did indulge in a couple of boneless buffalo wings (but happily they were not coated in fried batter!) and a salad with cheese and a little ranch dressing, but it seems like it didn't set me back in the scheme of things because I had a light breakfast and a very small dinner (since I was still full from that big lunch). And once I had the wings, I made the choice to skip the beer. Doing the one-or-the-other decision-making seems to help me avoid going off the rails when it comes to a "cheat."

As far as cooking, I don't really have time or energy to cook much during the week, and mr. cgraz is doing the paleo diet so he brings food with him to work throughout the week - so to be successful, we have to prep on the weekend. Since we started this, we try to get set up on Sunday - grill a bunch of chicken and roast some veggies, stock up on veggies & fruit and plan which ones to cook/eat first (most perishable), and I also get things like yogurt, string cheese, unsweetened applesauce, and carrots that I can easily grab for lunches on the road.

I do use my bento boxes too! I haven't had quite the elaborate (and cute) meals packed in them, and I don't pack them all at the beginning of the week...which is what I'd like to do at some point. But they still work great to keep things organized and to help me visualize good small portion sizes. They looked small to me at first, but it is actually plenty of food! I think I used to chronically overpack lunch stuff and then feel compelled to eat it all.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 19, 2012, 07:38:51 AM
Who made it or brought it into the home, knowing that you are trying to lose weight?
i never announce that i am trying to lose weight, DH does not care to hear me whine about my weight. I did not even eat the crust DD left over! I was, however, ready to get up at 5:30am to run, but DD was up again last night and then i could not go back to sleep for HOURS until 5am. yeah, not gonna happen.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on October 19, 2012, 07:43:34 AM
i never announce that i am trying to lose weight, DH does not care to hear me whine about my weight. I did not even eat the crust DD left over! I was, however, ready to get up at 5:30am to run, but DD was up again last night and then i could not go back to sleep for HOURS until 5am. yeah, not gonna happen.

Sorry to hear that - it must be so frustrating when you really want to run and it just can't happen.

Even if you're not telling him you want to lose weight, does he know that you'd prefer not to indulge in stuff like pizza too often? I know there have been times when mr. cgraz and I try not to "sabotage" each other but it is hard. With him doing the paleo thing, he says pizza is what he misses the most and that is tough because a slice of cheese pizza is totally my "emergency" food. It is a reasonable amount of points on WW, and so I feel ok about having it when I am in a pinch (like this week). I was relieved when I showed up at home with a couple of slices at 8 pm one night this week (I was starving!) and he was on his way out to see his chiro, so he did not even smell it to be tempted! I would have felt terrible eating it in front of him.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 19, 2012, 08:16:55 AM
I don't blame him at all. He keeps vegetarian at home, and he is NOT vegetarian, so he makes a lot of concessions for us. And sometimes i do eat the pizza, so he never knows.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 19, 2012, 08:40:35 AM
CGraz, that is awesome! I love the feeling of those new habits becoming automatic and realizing the old choices don't even sound good anymore! That is exactly what it's all about. :) oh and congrats on the 20lb loss. That is a significant ount of weight. Nice work! That is about where I decided I was ok leaving things, but maintenance comes with its own set of challenges.

I've been Pleasantly surprised at how well this week has gone. Hoping to hop on the scale tomorrow and hope to be pleasantly surprised there too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on October 19, 2012, 09:47:45 AM
I don't blame him at all. He keeps vegetarian at home, and he is NOT vegetarian, so he makes a lot of concessions for us. And sometimes i do eat the pizza, so he never knows.

Oh, I wasn't blaming him! I was more saying how easy it is to accidentally tempt your spouse without meaning to. (Although in my example, I did know darn well mr. cgraz would want that pizza but I was just so hungry!)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 19, 2012, 10:26:56 AM
Oh, I wasn't blaming him! I was more saying how easy it is to accidentally tempt your spouse without meaning to. (Although in my example, I did know darn well mr. cgraz would want that pizza but I was just so hungry!)
yep. so true. He never does it on purpose and is respectful of my choices. DD is finally old enough to start to realize she is vegetarian but not everyone is and accidentally i may have made it appear that DH is vegetarian, oops. LOL. I forget what i said, but DH blames me :D It is really hard to explain to her with out traumatizing her on meat production (i would not do that) and not villianizing people who do eat meat. Luckily her school is primarily vegetarian and her BFF at school is veg too, so there is very little exposure for her to anything otherwise.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 19, 2012, 12:16:09 PM
Well, that sucks... went to the dr today and not only did I get two shots (Flu and DTAP) but they weighed me and my weight (albeit, totally dressed) was the same weight I was last week. Wah!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 19, 2012, 12:27:20 PM
Be prepared for the arm pain from the tdap. Mine is finally fading today but it is still swollen and hot...mine was Monday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 19, 2012, 12:41:07 PM
Be prepared for the arm pain from the tdap. Mine is finally fading today but it is still swollen and hot...mine was Monday.

I was actually thinking about you today. They gave me the side effects sheets and both listed fever, and generally feeling punky as side effects. So, I'm preparing for a weekend on the couch!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on October 19, 2012, 01:49:05 PM
I found this on pinterest and though it would fit well here.

(http://media-cache-lt0.pinterest.com/upload/187462403210619826_7UFPd7oa_c.jpg)




So the kids decided to get up at 6:00 this morning...ugh.  Far earlier than usual.  I was lucky that some zyrtec knocked me out and I got some good sleep.  They've been naked all morning and done pretty well so far.  A couple of accidents from Rachel, she just didn't catch it in time... and some leaking from David... on my pillow!  So, I'll be doing some laundry.  It's my fault to let them play naked on my bed.

I put them to bed in just undies.  I expect they'll get up from their nap early and wet.  Wasn't sure what to do exactly for nap time so I'm experimenting.   

I need to put together a healthy meal for us for later.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 19, 2012, 02:48:06 PM
good luck with the peepees!

I went to costco and avoided ALL the samples. No joke. I need a gold medal. There were pierogies, cake, yogurt, bread and butter, cheese, spinach dip on crusty bread, chocolate something or another and so much more.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on October 19, 2012, 05:37:42 PM
Well, that sucks... went to the dr today and not only did I get two shots (Flu and DTAP) but they weighed me and my weight (albeit, totally dressed) was the same weight I was last week. Wah!

I never have myself weighed at the dr.'s office.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: VP of Tea on October 19, 2012, 05:48:51 PM
I can't set foot in a dr's office without them weighing me. First thing they do, regardless of what kind of doctor, it seems.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 19, 2012, 06:03:47 PM
you know you can refuse to be weighed, right? i do :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: mango on October 19, 2012, 06:31:59 PM
Or when you get weighed, just don't look at the number, tell the person weighing you that you don't want to know how much you weigh, and s/he will oblige.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 20, 2012, 09:13:21 AM
So i am down a pound today. I have a party to go to tonight. I am not going to not eat anything, but just be really mindful about what i will eat. There will be butternut squash soup and i am bringing guacamole (i am carving a small pumpkin to look like it is puking out the guac, saw it on pinterest, lol).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 20, 2012, 11:43:38 AM
Have fun merry!

I feel cruddy today. I'm blaming the shots. Beautiful day, but I know if I run it will be a disaster. So rest day #2.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on October 20, 2012, 12:12:02 PM
Good luck meri with the party food. 
RA hope you feel better.  Maybe a walk in the nice weather will help.

Day 2 of potty training.  OK I guess but just ready to be done.  And WHY do they both have to go at the same time!?  Oh yeah, to make it a challenge.

 Planning on a run during their nap.  My 2 miles yesterday were poor but expected after such a long break and a cold.

I have noticed with DH away that I'm more efficient at keeping the house relatively clean. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 20, 2012, 12:48:13 PM
Have fun merry!

I feel cruddy today. I'm blaming the shots. Beautiful day, but I know if I run it will be a disaster. So rest day #2.


:(
Nice to know I am not nuts though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 20, 2012, 02:33:41 PM
Good luck meri with the party food. 
RA hope you feel better.  Maybe a walk in the nice weather will help.

Day 2 of potty training.  OK I guess but just ready to be done.  And WHY do they both have to go at the same time!?  Oh yeah, to make it a challenge.

 Planning on a run during their nap.  My 2 miles yesterday were poor but expected after such a long break and a cold.

I have noticed with DH away that I'm more efficient at keeping the house relatively clean.
i can see that.

Are you doing the potty training in a weekend dealio? DD pretty much trained on her own very young, we were very lucky. I was told her using cloth diapers helped, but whatever, i am not going to question or care :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on October 20, 2012, 04:08:10 PM
I have noticed with DH away that I'm more efficient at keeping the house relatively clean. 

Yes, same here
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 20, 2012, 06:28:15 PM
:(
Nice to know I am not nuts though.

Feeling a bit better this afternoon. Contemplating a run. We'll see. I'm not usually one to be sensative to shots. I wonder if it's this particular combo that's rough, or what. Either that, or it's the diptheria or pertussis piece of it that's particularly nasty. I've had tetnus and flu shots in the past and never had much more than a sore arm.

Or, maybe it's this year's flu shot. Or, again,maybe just a bad combo to do all together.

I woke up in the middle of the night with a splitting headache and my tummy all upset and then just generally have felt on and off sh1tty all day. Maybe I should take it as a rest day afterall. OTOH, maybe getting my blood pumping will move all the nasties through faster.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 20, 2012, 07:43:23 PM
Feeling a bit better this afternoon. Contemplating a run. We'll see. I'm not usually one to be sensative to shots. I wonder if it's this particular combo that's rough, or what. Either that, or it's the diptheria or pertussis piece of it that's particularly nasty. I've had tetnus and flu shots in the past and never had much more than a sore arm.

Or, maybe it's this year's flu shot. Or, again,maybe just a bad combo to do all together.

I woke up in the middle of the night with a splitting headache and my tummy all upset and then just generally have felt on and off sh1tty all day. Maybe I should take it as a rest day afterall. OTOH, maybe getting my blood pumping will move all the nasties through faster.

I ended up with a tummy ache also.

But I ran the days I felt shitty (even with a stomach ache) and I didnt feel any worse.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 20, 2012, 08:16:32 PM
I am out of time today. Also, it's SUPER windy out. I can handle running in the rain but the wind kills me. I had to work a little bit this afternoon and that ended up taking prescedence. I've run or worked out for 5 of the last 7 days though, so I'm ok with it. I am not going to get the pumpkin cupcake... but probably will get roped in to pizza for dinner tonight.

I had scrambled an egg with veggies for breakfast and then made these http://urbanposer.blogspot.com/2011/07/spring-onion-rosemary-garlic-spaghetti.html (http://urbanposer.blogspot.com/2011/07/spring-onion-rosemary-garlic-spaghetti.html) and topped them with spaghetti sauce, a little parm + a salad for lunch... so still have been pretty well on track.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on October 20, 2012, 08:43:20 PM
Phew.  I'm so glad they are in finally in bed. 

They missed a nap today, so I missed my run, because mom came over *exactly* at their nap time.  I hate it when she does that, but I couldn't complain too much because she brought some supplies for me. 

Meri, I'm trying my own version of training in 3 days.  Kind of just winging it while letting them run around naked/bottomless all day.  They get a diaper at nap & bed time.  There were more accidents today than yesterday and I think they're over the sticker chart I made.  At least David is.  They both refuse to poop in the toilet, which is apparently another level of training.  At least they recognize when they need to go and will tell me. 

I had all these big plans of things to accomplish while DH was away.  It is not gonna happen.  At least my eating has been greatly improved the last few days...  I'm beginning to think DH is a bad influence.  But I do miss him.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 20, 2012, 09:04:18 PM
bribery!!!!!

i ate ok at the party- guacamole, some burrito with out the tortilla, just the bean filling, 1 cake pop, a couple crackers and a cookie and 2 bites of cake. Compared to what was there, i did really well, and everything was small portions.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on October 20, 2012, 09:35:34 PM
bribery!!!!!

i ate ok at the party- guacamole, some burrito with out the tortilla, just the bean filling, 1 cake pop, a couple crackers and a cookie and 2 bites of cake. Compared to what was there, i did really well, and everything was small portions.

Home early!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on October 20, 2012, 10:44:17 PM
Sounds like you did well!  I cannot refuge large pieces of cake.... ever.


I am doing bribery too.  They get a sticker chart, a happy dance from me, and a choice of a small cheap toy from a collection of things I got cheap.  Trouble is they want all the toys.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 21, 2012, 06:58:32 AM
yes they want all the toys! LOL.

MoS-- it started at 6, though most people did not start showing up until closer to 7:30 and poor C was passed out on the couch so DD did not get to play with her until they woke her up closer to 7:30. We left around 8:40, i was hoping to leave at 8, but K said they were doing the costume and recipe contest at 8, but you know how they are, but DD won the costume contest so we had to stay for that, the kid's division that was.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 21, 2012, 08:31:56 PM
We just got a huge box of spices from Penzeys as a wedding present. So excited!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on October 21, 2012, 09:17:55 PM
We just got a huge box of spices from Penzeys as a wedding present. So excited!!!

 :heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 21, 2012, 09:19:42 PM
My dad just stopped by. He is a baker by trade. He brought me a beautiful, still warm, loaf of bread. I loooove his bread, but totally not on my eating plan. I was going to just gift it to a friend at work, who I know also loves his bread. But, then, he says "oh, it's an experimental loaf, let me know what you think!". So, I guess I'm eating it. I'll probably eat most of the loaf because I can't let something like that go to waste. Turns out it's fantastic! Lots of yummy grains that got all toasted on the outside. Yuuuuum!

But, really, the reason bread isn't "on plan" for me is that it causes swings in bloodsugar, which lead to over eating. I am feeling pretty good about things and don't think I'll go off the deep end, so it should be fine.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 21, 2012, 09:35:37 PM
Vegetable soup (well I added a bit of beef for my husband but otherwise its all veggie) and warm bread for dinner followed by apple crisp. I cannot wait! I LOVE soup.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on October 21, 2012, 10:05:16 PM
RA & MM, both of those sound fantastic.  Yum. 

My eating has been good up until this evening.  I'm hitting PMS territory.  The kids didn't nap again today which makes it difficult for me to get anything very productive done - like a run.  I did tidy up the deck and bring in some plants since it's getting too cold for some of them.

Potty training is going pretty good.  R didn't have any accidents today and D had one....and it was funny.  They were in their room when I heard R yell 'David you're peeing! David you're peeing!'  He replies 'Oh no! Mommy I pee!'   They both helped clean it up and aren't too concerned about stickers/toys anymore so I think it's sinking in.   :fingers:  They don't even like going in their diapers for naps/bedtime and ask for the toilet instead of just using the diaper.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on October 22, 2012, 06:54:37 AM
Good weekend for running but bad weekend for eating! We were at the RW Half Marathon & Festival - my sister ran her first half, and mr. cgraz did the hat trick (5K & 10K on Saturday, half on Sunday). I did the 5K and ran well, so I was happy - but I think I ate as if I was doing the half! Lasagna, bagels - oy! I didn't track much because we were eating out, so I'll try to piece it together today and then just keep it on track for the rest of the week.

And surprise! My period came 3 days early, gah. Which is annoying because I'm usually like clockwork, but good because (a) it didn't come any earlier which would have been inconvenient this past weekend, (b) I have a huge workshop that I'm running on Weds and if I felt like crap that day would be rough, and (c) it will be over by this coming weekend, and we have another weekend away that includes a 5K in costume on Sunday, so I will be glad not to be dealing with it then either.

So, I look on the bright side that I got any PMS cravings out of the way with the weekend's crazy eating, and I can move on and deal with it today and tomorrow, and then get on with my busy self.

MM I love soup, too and this time of year always makes me love it even more. And glad you could enjoy the bread without feeling like it opened the door to overeating, RA.

Bolloxd, that is great that they are catching on. Potty training seems like it can be so stressful (and can cause a lot of extra laundry!) but that sounds like a lot of progress in a few days.

Hope everybody else had a good weekend.
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Post by: merigayle on October 22, 2012, 07:52:36 AM
oooh MM that is a great gift!

RA- eat some, freeze the rest.

Cgraz-- i did not know you were running that race, MoS was there. I regret not running it, i just could not plan that far in advance. I am sure it was a class act, i ran their old half years ago (where i have my PR!) and it was just a great event with the course, course support and entertainment and post race food.
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Post by: cgraz on October 22, 2012, 08:05:56 AM
Yeah, MoS and I exchanged messages, but we were both there with groups of people and things were hectic, so we did not get to connect. Sounds like she had a great race though! (See her thread in Running about it...) It really was a great venue and very well-organized. We loved it!

ETA...my mind is still blown by the hat trick - over 800 people did it! That is a lot of running in one weekend!
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Post by: merigayle on October 22, 2012, 08:09:59 AM
Oh I forgot to add that i took DD and our 8yo neighbor to the amusement park for their Halloween celebration and we did NOT do their trick or treating trail and as much as i wanted pumpkin spice funnel cake (OMG, i would never consider funnel cake, but this smelled beyond incredible!) we just got some popcorn for snack. We were there 3-6pm, so it was not really more than snack time. And i resisted taking the girls to the Amish smorgasbord buffet on the way home :D
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Post by: Bolloxd on October 22, 2012, 09:57:58 AM
That's a lot of running cgraz.  Sounds like it was fun!  The whole hormone thing is frustrating but glad it worked out for the best.
Meri, I don't eat funnel cake often but I love it.  Pumpkin flavor sounds interesting.  You seem to be surrounded by tons of food all the time and show some great will power.

D woke up last night and ended up in the bed with me.  He was a squirming monster last night and I had bad dreams so not feeling rested.  Glad DH will be back tomorrow night.
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Post by: debbatx on October 22, 2012, 10:56:18 AM
So. Tired. We went to Houston for my niece's birthday on Saturday. We left around noon, Reid slept for an HOUR in the car. It's a three-hour drive.  :'( The party didn't start until 5.30, but we all went early to help set up (us, my parents, and my sister, her DH, and W). Got back to their house around 8, when my sister decreed that W needed "time to wind down." Given that no one in my family does anything against my sister or W, that meant Reid got (unneeded) wind-down time, too, because if we'd tried to put him to bed on time, he'd never have slept because of the noise everyone was making. So it was NINE FORTY-FIVE before he went to sleep. In a P&P. In our room.

Yeah, he woke up at 2 and didn't calm down until almost 3:30 when he finally agreed to lay down in bed with us. I don't know how y'all co-sleepers do it.  :nono:

So we're exhausted. And have eaten horribly all weekend. I have to get back on track, but now I'm at the stage where nothing sounds good, but not eating means letting my stomach get empty, and *that* means feeling nauseous. Awesome.
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Post by: merigayle on October 22, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
heh, 9:45 would be pretty close to normal bedtime for zoe. Which is why i am always exhausted! LOL.

Bolloxd-- yep, not all the time, but sometimes, there are a lot of temptations. If they were giving the funnel cake out for free, i may have had to try it. It smelled sooooo divine.
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Post by: debbatx on October 22, 2012, 01:41:27 PM
Well, he normally goes to bed at 8, so....
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Post by: merigayle on October 22, 2012, 02:18:10 PM
Well, he normally goes to bed at 8, so....
i absolutely hate when people cannot respect little kid's and baby's sleep schedules! "Oh does she really need a nap?" YES, YES SHE DOES OR SHE IS THE DEMON CHILD.  :grr:
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Post by: debbatx on October 22, 2012, 03:34:06 PM
THANK YOU. God, my family drives me nuts. "Well, he needs to learn to be flexible." Whatever, he's not yet 3. He can learn to be flexible when he's older. Right now, he needs a nap and he needs to go to bed on time. Shut. Up.
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Post by: merigayle on October 22, 2012, 03:35:24 PM
yep.

DD is still napping. I shoudl probably check her for vitals! But i have been enjoying doing nothing on the internet :D
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Post by: merigayle on October 22, 2012, 03:39:54 PM
well she is snoring away! she did not nap yesterday, i thought she was, but she laid in bed quiet for 90 minutes! I was shocked when i went in to wake her up to go to the amusement park! She was so exhausted that she went to bed at 7:45 last night and woke up a few times and was up for real at 7:20!!!! She has been napping over 2 hours but is snoring, she may just need the sleep. Her sleep was pretty crappy last week with her diarrhea issues.
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Post by: debbatx on October 22, 2012, 04:00:56 PM
Awwww, let her rest.
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Post by: merigayle on October 22, 2012, 05:26:40 PM
I woke her at 4pm (2.5 hour nap!) and then we played outside a little bit. I do not want her to not sleep tonight! LOL.
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Post by: debbatx on October 22, 2012, 05:38:55 PM
Yeah, at that point I'd have woken her up, too! Unless she was still sick, of course, but it doesn't sound like that's the case.
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Post by: Run Amok on October 23, 2012, 10:43:39 AM
I know this is a "good" problem to have... but I've reached the akward point where people are telling me "wow, you've lost a lot of weight, you look great" etc. I know this is a compliment... but every time someone comments on how much weight I've lost, all I hear is "jeeze, you were a fvcking fat @ss before!".
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Post by: onawhim on October 23, 2012, 11:06:27 AM
I know this is a "good" problem to have... but I've reached the akward point where people are telling me "wow, you've lost a lot of weight, you look great" etc. I know this is a compliment... but every time someone comments on how much weight I've lost, all I hear is "jeeze, you were a fvcking fat @ss before!".

I am the same way.  MY CW's are not good at sugar coating anything.  They told me I used to look like a fat boy and now I look much better  :D
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Post by: triciaflower on October 23, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
That's annoying! But I'm sure the intent was clearly to give a compliment, even though the delivery was a bit off.

I once heard someone tell another person, "WOW! You're looking fit!" And I thought that sounded so perfect. It's acknowledging you notice a change without making it seem like you sure noticed the person had been gaining weight.  :D

 

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Post by: merigayle on October 23, 2012, 11:24:57 AM
I'd take the compliments!!!!! LOL.

About to hop on the TM. My face is a mess with little pimples and i think my aunt flo is here a few days early. Gotta love these hormones. Have not hopped on the scale in several days, it just depresses me.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 23, 2012, 11:31:50 AM
I have a strange workout issue. Lately when I run my pf will start acting up, eventually causing sharp pains through the sole of my foot...ok that I am used to but after that my foot goes numb and only slowing down to a walk fixes that. WTF?
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Post by: merigayle on October 23, 2012, 11:33:59 AM
new insoles or new shoes needed?
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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 23, 2012, 11:36:02 AM
new insoles or new shoes needed?

I could try new insoles. These are new shoes...of the same style I normally buy.
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Post by: merigayle on October 23, 2012, 11:39:37 AM
could it not be PF but coming from your back? If i do not sleep well, my back acts up and it manifests as nerve pain my foot when i run. Fun times!
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Post by: rocketgirl on October 23, 2012, 11:43:00 AM
Where exactly on your foot is it?
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Post by: Run Amok on October 23, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
I have a strange workout issue. Lately when I run my pf will start acting up, eventually causing sharp pains through the sole of my foot...ok that I am used to but after that my foot goes numb and only slowing down to a walk fixes that. WTF?

I do get numbness sometimes. I've been told it's swelling related and lacing my shoes very loosely was recommended. That helped, stretching mid run, helped, and backing off a bit on mileage and the rebuilding slowly helped. I hadn't noticed it much this time around- but it started happening while I was running on the TM and then I noticed it happening outside more recently- I'm taking it as a sign I just need to give a little more time before I start running 5mi regularly. Last time, it did go away as I got a little stronger.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 23, 2012, 11:52:26 AM
Where exactly on your foot is it?

The pain is on the anterior inside of the hell. The numbness starts at my heel but my entire foot goes numb..it is always right after the pf starts throbbing (the pf hurts constantly but this is throbbing shooting pains).
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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 23, 2012, 11:54:59 AM
I do get numbness sometimes. I've been told it's swelling related and lacing my shoes very loosely was recommended. That helped, stretching mid run, helped, and backing off a bit on mileage and the rebuilding slowly helped. I hadn't noticed it much this time around- but it started happening while I was running on the TM and then I noticed it happening outside more recently- I'm taking it as a sign I just need to give a little more time before I start running 5mi regularly. Last time, it did go away as I got a little stronger.

I have gotten that advice before also but if my shoes are laced any looser they would fall off my foot. I suspect it might be swelling from the pf though but that would ne the bottom of my foot swelling.
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Post by: rocketgirl on October 23, 2012, 01:01:32 PM
Can you go to a toy store and get a superball/bouncy ball?  I think you need a 27 mm or 32 mm.  My physical therapist had me roll my foot over one.  It's got enough give that you're not going to get bruising, but it's certainly small and firm enough.  You can FEEL it breaking up bubbles in your fascia.
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Post by: merigayle on October 23, 2012, 02:22:06 PM
or the frozen water bottle!

I was at Target to pick up a couple things on my way to work and i actually almost passed out. It was really freaky. I had to hold onto something. I had a small granola bar of DD's in my pocket and ate it and felt a bit better, but omg, i thought i was going to go down! How embarrassing!  :e) I had eaten ok today too. I had tofu "omlete" for bfast, a bowl of quninoa around 11:45 before my run, an apple and a pear, ran for 50 minutes, and then headed to target. Totally bizarre.
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Post by: Run Amok on October 23, 2012, 04:05:14 PM
That is really weird meri! Glad you are feeling better.

I met my dad here for lunch, and totally over did it: http://www.georgetownliquorcompany.com/menu.html (http://www.georgetownliquorcompany.com/menu.html) We each ordered a sandwhich and gave eachother half. YUMMY!

I'll run later and do a light dinner, though. It's fine.
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Post by: merigayle on October 23, 2012, 04:07:31 PM
i want to eat there! YUM!
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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 23, 2012, 07:04:56 PM
Can you go to a toy store and get a superball/bouncy ball?  I think you need a 27 mm or 32 mm.  My physical therapist had me roll my foot over one.  It's got enough give that you're not going to get bruising, but it's certainly small and firm enough.  You can FEEL it breaking up bubbles in your fascia.

Oh I am super familiar with PF "cures" as I have struggled with severe PF for a long time. At one point a few years ago I was going to ART 2 times a week but I simply cannot afford that for something that only fixes the problem for a short while. None of the ball or ice things seem to make one iota of difference. The only thing that stops it is not running and never wearing cute shoes (which I pretty much do anyway). :( It got so bad that my chiropracter suggested that if I didnt back off running I may end up having it seperate completely from my bone. But I just really started up again so it sure as hell cannot be overuse.

But the foot numbness thing is new...at least in relation to this.
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Post by: diablita on October 23, 2012, 07:07:49 PM
i want to eat there! YUM!

Me too!  CH meet up.
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Post by: merigayle on October 23, 2012, 07:58:22 PM
not sure what to tell you MM. Acupuncture and myofascial release would be what i would suggest next, probably starting with the MFR. You can go to www.myofascialrelease.com (http://www.myofascialrelease.com) and see if anyone is in your area.
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Post by: Ice Cream on October 23, 2012, 08:31:53 PM
The only thing that stops it is never wearing cute shoes

I am stuck, too, with ugly shoes... not to mention expensive, as a result of PF.  But it helps.  It really hurts when I look at all the nice shoe threads in yammering.  I want those, too.
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Post by: diablita on October 23, 2012, 09:04:19 PM
ouch.  sorry ladies.
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Post by: caito on October 23, 2012, 10:02:26 PM
MM, what running shoes do you wear?   Brand/model?   Just curious.  And what do youu wear all day on your feet  at work?

  PF totally sucks.

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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 23, 2012, 11:10:25 PM
MM, what running shoes do you wear?   Brand/model?   Just curious.  And what do youu wear all day on your feet  at work?

  PF totally sucks.



Yay...a shoe expert!

Asics 2160s...got a great deal because they are old. And I use superfeet.

At work I wear various sketcher sneakers.
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Post by: merigayle on October 24, 2012, 07:50:37 AM
I would wear your running shoes to work and see if that helps. I wear Earth shoes to work, they are negative heel shoes (heel lower than forefoot) and for some, not all, this can help with PF because it stretches out your achilles. I really do not care about cute shoes luckily. I also do not buy leather, so i am excluded from most shoes and handbags anyways :D

No morning run for me.
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Post by: Bolloxd on October 24, 2012, 09:48:39 AM
Another tip MM is try to alternate the shoes you wear daily.  That has helped me at work, it gives each pair a chance to rest.

Meri hope you're ok.  Are you hydrated?  That sometimes causes me to be dizzy.

I ran 3.5 yesterday and hope to do some today.  Got DH home late last night...we were both moody and hungry.  Hope today is happier.  Only had one potty accident yesterday and R requested he bathroom while out eating.... so I'm pleased with how it's all gone.  Must train DH now on how to manage it once I'm back to work tomorrow.

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Post by: merigayle on October 24, 2012, 10:43:31 AM
i did not take my morning allergy medicine yesterday and i think that was the culprit, headache, stuffy ears this morning. DH is home sick. DD was up once last night but talking in her sleep and kept waking me up. I just could not pull myself out of bed at 5:30 am :( I took my allergy medicine + flonase today. Still feeling foggy headed, but i do not think it is a cold, i do think it is still allergies. Stupid me for thinking 1 allergy med was sufficient  :eyeroll:
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Post by: caito on October 24, 2012, 11:17:12 AM
Yay...a shoe expert!

Asics 2160s...got a great deal because they are old. And I use superfeet.

At work I wear various sketcher sneakers.

The 2160s are a good stability shoe, so that's good.  And adding the Superfeet is great for PF.  But the shoes are old.  2 versions old.  How many miles do you have on them?  If it's over 450, get a new pair.  Also, consider the Asics Kayano.  Same stability of the 2100 series (the newest version is now the 2000 series) but with additional cushioning.  I wore this shoe when I struggled with PF.  Other similar models are the Brooks Trance and Saucony Hurricane.  Or the Saucony Omni, even. 

Also, the Superfeet will last you about two pairs of shoes.   If you wear the Superfeet every day, you may need a new pair already.

Since you are on your feet all day at work, it may be a good idea to make sure your shoes have a good level of stability and cushioning as well.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on October 24, 2012, 12:32:57 PM
The shoes are brand new but the superfeet are not. I used to wear kayunos and I really liked them but they made a change to them and they were rubbing the top of my foot raw. When that happened I switched to new balance but then all the pf started happening so I switched back to Asics. The other complication is that I wear narrow so selection islimited.
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Post by: debbatx on October 24, 2012, 01:27:19 PM
At the risk of derailing, veggies no longer taste good. I can get them down, but.... bleh.  :(
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Post by: merigayle on October 24, 2012, 01:39:57 PM
At the risk of derailing, veggies no longer taste good. I can get them down, but.... bleh.  :(
:( in first trimester (like first 15 weeks) i could only eat veggies if they were in salad (ie a vessel to transport salad dressing into my mouth) or from the Chinese food place! LOL.

I actually feel like crap and wonder if it is not allergies, but a head cold coming on  :panic: still feel light headed but heavy headed at the same time and that i could keel over.
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Post by: debbatx on October 24, 2012, 01:48:11 PM
I was a bottomless pit a few weeks ago, then last week, NOTHING sounded good, and now it's only sweet stuff. I'm wondering if salsa might work with veggies instead of hummus. Nice and cold, the tomatoes can taste pretty sweet.... hmmmm....
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Post by: cgraz on October 24, 2012, 06:23:29 PM
The shoes are brand new but the superfeet are not. I used to wear kayunos and I really liked them but they made a change to them and they were rubbing the top of my foot raw. When that happened I switched to new balance but then all the pf started happening so I switched back to Asics. The other complication is that I wear narrow so selection islimited.

I had that same issue with a change in the Kayanos - all of a sudden my foot seemed to ride higher in the shoe and the top was too tight. It was the strangest thing. I loved them, too, so it bummed me out.

Even if the shoes are newly purchased, if they are an older model that would mean they've been sitting on a shelf somewhere for a while, yes? So would that break down any of the supportive/cushioning material in the shoe, over time?

I hope you get some relief, I know PF can be a real tough one to get rid of. My sister had good luck treating it with acupuncture. (I know, I say acupuncture for everything...but man, I know it works for me and mr. cgraz for lots of things...)
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Post by: merigayle on October 24, 2012, 07:11:46 PM
I had that same issue with a change in the Kayanos - all of a sudden my foot seemed to ride higher in the shoe and the top was too tight. It was the strangest thing. I loved them, too, so it bummed me out.

Even if the shoes are newly purchased, if they are an older model that would mean they've been sitting on a shelf somewhere for a while, yes? So would that break down any of the supportive/cushioning material in the shoe, over time?

I hope you get some relief, I know PF can be a real tough one to get rid of. My sister had good luck treating it with acupuncture. (I know, I say acupuncture for everything...but man, I know it works for me and mr. cgraz for lots of things...)
you and me both :D


btw, i have the BIGGEST pair of cranky pants on today  :grr:
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Post by: cgraz on October 24, 2012, 07:44:22 PM
btw, i have the BIGGEST pair of cranky pants on today  :grr:

Sorry about the cranky pants. I hate that.
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Post by: debbatx on October 25, 2012, 10:21:37 AM
I'm a believer in acupuncture these days, too. Nothing else has helped my allergies like it has. I'd totally be checking with my acupuncturist to see if she could help with something like PF. I'm probably going to have her work on my back next time I go.
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Post by: merigayle on October 25, 2012, 10:25:14 AM
I have the worst cramps, hope my run makes it better not worse later.
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Post by: debbatx on October 25, 2012, 11:28:06 AM
Okay, I've figured it out. If I eat nothing but the Chobani Non-Fat with the fruit on the bottom - which is pretty much all that sounds good right now - I can eat 11 a day. That's okay, right? .....Right?  ;)
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Post by: Run Amok on October 25, 2012, 11:41:31 AM
Meh. This week has not been great. Tuesday lunch with my dad, then the rest of the loaf of bread, and a few pieces of candy corn for dinner. Then yesterday lunch out with a client (I had a veggie burger, skipped the bun but ate all the cheese and a few of the fries) and pizza for dinner last night.  :o Tomorrow night meeting a friend for dinner at a place I'm not going to be good at. *sigh* Trying to be good in between. Back on track for real on saturday.
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Post by: merigayle on October 25, 2012, 11:44:58 AM
Debba- whatever you can eat is fine. Your body and baby will be fine.

So I just got in a fight with DD's preschool director. She knows that we cloth diapered (because she was in diapers when she first started) and told me to buy her plastic pull ups. I was like, i will not. She said she has had some nap time accidents and the cloth trainers i brought for nap time are not good enough. Well, i agree with that, BUT she has not had a nap time accident in a couple weeks. She said she had and that she did two loads of DD's blankets this week and i basically called her out on it and the naptime teacher was not there and the other one just kinda played dumb and said she could not remember any recent accidents. I will look into a cloth alternative that is more waterproof, but i was just pissed because DD really has not had that many nap time accidents lately, maybe just a couple in the past month (over the summer she had a bunch for the first time in a year!). ARGH. I should get on the TM but between that and my crazy bad cramps i may just bail. I took advil and still feel like shit. I can barely stand up straight without pain.
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Post by: debbatx on October 25, 2012, 11:47:46 AM
Oh, I know it'll all even out in the end. I just either want yogurt, or a bacon cheeseburger with fries, upsized, please. There's no in-between. It's making me insane because I'm also trying really hard to watch the weight gain.
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Post by: merigayle on October 25, 2012, 11:59:09 AM
i hear from so many women that they just crave greasy burgers in pregnancy! LOL. maybe that is why i liked chinese broccoli? I lived on toast, dry cereal, bagels and butter, pasta and butter and that is about it in the first trimester :D

I just ordered two pairs of more waterproof training pants. My poor kid has not had any accidents in weeks and cries every day that she does not need the training pants she has at school, which are not fully waterproof. This just really pissed me off, DD has been out of diapers for over a year and they know we don't use disposable ones for many many reasons. I just do not know why she thought DD was having all these accidents when she has not been having all these accidents  :grr:
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Post by: merigayle on October 25, 2012, 12:14:29 PM
and like that, i ran out of time to run. oh well. i just realized i need to buy cat litter anyways.
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Post by: debbatx on October 25, 2012, 12:20:24 PM
That would make me mad, too, meri.

I think the burger thing is maybe a protein/salt combo. It's the only thing that sounds better than fruit-enhanced yogurt right now.
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Post by: merigayle on October 25, 2012, 12:24:23 PM
oh yes, i craved potato chips and tater tots a lot in pregnancy. I was buying tater tots every week and DH was just like, i have NEVER seen you eat a tater tot in your life! LOL.

Yeah, I am still really pissed off. I have just been really cranky, going to blame the hormones i guess. DD better hope she has no more accidents now that i just said she did not have any in a few weeks :D
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Post by: Bolloxd on October 25, 2012, 10:25:48 PM
Meri that would piss me off too!  I have been blessed with cramps today while at work.  Thanks to percoset  I'm tolerating it well now.  :)

Deb I ate tons of Mac & cheese and peaches with the twins.  Whatever works for you!

Long day today and I'm ready for bed.
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Post by: Ice Cream on October 26, 2012, 07:11:24 AM
The shoes are brand new but the superfeet are not. I used to wear kayunos and I really liked them but they made a change to them and they were rubbing the top of my foot raw. When that happened I switched to new balance but then all the pf started happening so I switched back to Asics. The other complication is that I wear narrow so selection islimited.

taping for PF.  DH says it helps him.

Plantar Fascitiis Tape Job (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKGDhxcdtzE#)
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Post by: merigayle on October 26, 2012, 07:56:01 AM
Last night DD was bouncing on my uterus and it felt like i was in labor. I almost keeled over. I feel better today, except i barely slept last night. DD woke up around 11:30 and went right back to sleep, but DH was snoring and i was so pissed off still about DD's school, and that i came home ot her Thomas the train shirt inside out and not sure why they had her turn it inside out at school, so another thing to bitch about this morning.  :bat: It is unclear from my 3.5yo if just she had to turn her shirt inside out or all the kids did. I really do not know why. They are having a big 20th anniversary celebration for the school tomorrow, so wondering if they did pictures, but then why not just change her shirt to something in her clothing bag? fun times.
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Post by: debbatx on October 26, 2012, 09:48:32 AM
All those issues would make me nuts, meri. Reid is ready to move up to the next class, even though he doesn't turn three for another month. He's bored senseless in his class right now, poor kid. There are 2 3-year-old classes, but the one *he* wants is full. The other teacher is perfectly nice, too, he just knows the teacher he wants a little better. His jackass BFF is in the class he wants, too. I'm not sure what to do. Push to move him up now, to a class he doesn't necessarily want to be in, or have him wait until the next school-wide move up and hope a spot opens up in the class he wants.

Ugh.

Oh, and despite a mini-binge yesterday (I could *not* handle the veggies at lunch), the scale is doing okay. I'm back down to a point where I'd like to hold steady for a while. If I could drop another 5 - which would put me at my pre-pregnancy weight - that would be awesome, but I'm not sure I can manage it.

I need to come up with lower-point, healthy lunches that won't make me gag. Apparently one cup of lentil soup is 4 points. WTF, who eats 1 cup? That's not going to help fill me up!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 26, 2012, 10:51:32 AM
1 cup? yeah, not good.

Well, if you want his separate from jack ass friend, move him now, LOL.

So I asked about the Thomas the Train shirt being turned inside out and she said it was distracting and the other kids were very distracted by it, blah blah blah, that it was not offensive, just too distracting for the other children.  :confused: I really do not have any other options and there is a lot of positives about where she is at right now, but this director is an old hippy and sometimes i just think she has totally lost her marbles and has no idea what she is talking about. I am going to call the Waldorf Academy and Montessori places today and talk to them. Waldorf would not be until the fall unfortunately and i am not sure the new Montessori school has financial aid. Her one friend went to a new preschool, but i do not want to put her there for a year THEN move her again, that is just too much for a wee one, imo. Ugh.
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Post by: debbatx on October 26, 2012, 11:13:54 AM
He is separated right now - his jackass friend is in the class he wants to move to.  :eyeroll: But he also loves the teacher in that class (the one with his friend), I love the teacher in that class, and I just don't know the other 3-year teacher as well. I'm sure she's great, I just don't know her as well. Gah.

And that's just stupid about the shirt.

I'm totally at a loss about lunch right now. Oh well.
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Post by: merigayle on October 26, 2012, 11:17:09 AM
i ate a lot of buttered and salted plain pasta when pregnant :D
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Post by: debbatx on October 26, 2012, 11:22:48 AM
Trying to maintain my weight, though!
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Post by: merigayle on October 26, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
Trying to maintain my weight, though!
portion control. but yeah, not very filling when you hav 3/4 cup :D
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Post by: debbatx on October 26, 2012, 11:50:54 AM
That's my point. I need stuff that's filling, but low-point. Veggies, right now, sound disgusting. I guess I can eat apples all day long.
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Post by: merigayle on October 26, 2012, 12:16:17 PM
i have a bag of honeycrisps next to my desk that i am eating any time i am hungry.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 26, 2012, 12:58:07 PM
I may have to do that. One of the guys I work with brought back Pei Wei for his lunch today. I almost tackled him for it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on October 26, 2012, 01:53:30 PM
Pei Wei is always disappointing to me...never quite as good as I wish it was. So tell yourself that it wouldn't have been good enough to make it worthwhile! I know you want to be healthy and conscientious, but remember that you're growing another human in there and it's ok if you do what you need to, to feel full and satisfied and cope with nausea, etc. Don't be too hard on yourself in terms of pressure to diet.

Weigh-in Friday for me, and no change. I feel like the carb-loading of last week kept me from losing, but at least I'm level. And clothes seem to fit differently this week, like even with no change, things are redistributing. Maybe the yoga and running are finally doing something.  :)

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 26, 2012, 02:43:32 PM
I ate at Pei Wei once at a race in Raleigh and it was disgusting. Not one of the four of us liked our meals. Blech.

I got my TM slog done. Now time to pick up DD for a play date.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 26, 2012, 02:55:32 PM
Oh, I know I'd regret it (and I didn't have any), but it just *smelled* so good.

Thanks for the lift, cgraz. I'm just trying to be careful because I'm obese as it is, so gaining too much is a bad idea, even if all I want to eat is junk right now.
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Post by: Run Amok on October 26, 2012, 08:03:36 PM
I am starving today! I don't know what's wrong with me!  :panic:
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Post by: diablita on October 26, 2012, 08:15:32 PM
me too, RA.  PMS here
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on October 27, 2012, 01:55:56 PM
I am starving today! I don't know what's wrong with me!  :panic:

I was starving all week
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Bolloxd on October 27, 2012, 10:43:23 PM
AF has kicked my butt the past day or so.  No energy at all.  The kids were both up at 4 am this morning so none of us got much sleep.  We spent the morning over at my Dad's place while DH worked on his computer again.  He's beyond paranoid that someone is watching all he does online and is monitoring his cell phone.  We've had to calm him down a lot the last few days.  :eyeroll:  I did some cleaning up over there and set him straight on a few things, in a direct daughterly way.

Poor eating today.  I'm probably gonna pay for it next chance I get to run.  We did move some furniture around today as some exercise.

My mind has gone blank...must be bed time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 28, 2012, 12:52:05 AM
I am a bottomless pit. I had to show two horses 60 miles apart today. Then I did a one hour barre class. I ate a good breakfast but ran out of time for lunch. Had more than enough dinner. Plus beer. Still starving. Bleah. I blame the running.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 28, 2012, 07:01:28 AM
AF has been a real bitch to me lately too. Making up for all that time i did not have a period! Still crampy yesterday on CD5. Lovely, right? Cramps were worst on day 3.

Going to try to sneak a run in. I made DD a choc cake the other day per her request, healthy, but still chocolate cake. I can't stop taking little tastes off of it  :eyeroll: oh well.

My husband has run a few days in the past week and is now planning races he wants to run. He does this all the time, signs up for races, never goes, and eats the entry fee, and wants to know why i am annoyed! Especially since he suggested i miss a race i am already commited to and run every year as a pacer to run a race he wants to run.  :grr:
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Post by: merigayle on October 28, 2012, 03:42:19 PM
I ran and walked on the TM for three episodes of the office, lol
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Post by: triciaflower on October 28, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
I used to love Pei Wei. I think they and many other chains have gone downhill. My guess is their quality is suffering because of their quest to save money.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 09:42:02 AM
Holy crap, I am SO tired this morning. My weight is back down a bit (which is good, after the last week or so), but Reid has been waking up between 5:30 and 6 for the last 5 days, and it's killing me. I could go back to bed right now.

I'm seriously tempted to call in sick on Wednesday so I can have a day to sleep and get some stuff done around the house and then go to the pumpkin painting party at Reid's daycare, but I don't think my conscience will let me do that. :( Damn that responsibility gene.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on October 29, 2012, 09:51:54 AM
Why is it irresponsible to take a mental health day? I took one Friday myself. We just get one bucket of time off though.
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Post by: diablita on October 29, 2012, 10:10:12 AM
Right.  Debba, I'm guessing you have PTO but are saving it for when the baby comes?  Mama needs tome time too and one day here and there might help to make a healthier, happier mama when baby comes.   :buttpat:


I'm exhausted.  When we were headed to bed last night we heard what sounded like the scariest thunder ever.  Turned out to be a huge old, dead tree trunk ripping off from its base and falling over, taking other trees with it.  It was pitch black out and we couldn't figure out if the trees making the noise were fully down or maybe halfway stuck on a canopy of other trees (they're all super tall).  So we took DD and dog down to the spare bedroom downstairs (this is a mountain house so the main/entry floor is upstairs) to sleep.  Which everyone managed to do but me.  :luvcoffee:
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 10:24:47 AM
Because it leaves my coworkers in the lurch. Someone will have to cover my "job" for the day - we have 5 tasks that we rotate on, and one of the backups will have to do it for me. If I were a backup, I'd do it, but it's really hard for me to just say "Eh, fuck it, someone else can do my job for the day." We have sick time and vacation time. I could call in sick - enough people know I'm pregnant that no one would really blink - but it just seems like a shitty thing to do. Also, someone else in our department just had a baby, and she milked her sick time for all it was worth, and it left us all scrambling to cover for her. It left a really bad taste in people's mouths, and I don't want to do the same thing.

I'm SO glad the tree didn't fall on your house, diablita!!!
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Post by: merigayle on October 29, 2012, 11:28:44 AM
debba- you need DH to take Reid out for the day over the weekend (this would nver happen in my house, only the reverse happens, but nice to wish).

I am going to get fat doing nothing but sitting around for days waiting for a storm to come!
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 11:31:07 AM
 :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit:

Thanks, meri, I needed that. :D
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Post by: merigayle on October 29, 2012, 12:41:32 PM
I may have thrown a little fit the other day necause last weekend i took DD out twice, once for three hours and once fr five, ThEN Dh stayed home from work sick wednesday and i was so jealous. Ugh. He does not even realize i never get to relax.
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 12:47:21 PM
I will say this - DH has been GREAT the last few weeks. He took Reid 2 weekends in a row and most nights so I could get my final projects done for my class. He's really stepped up since the doctor put me on "couch potato" status and the exhaustion has kicked in. We've just been insanely busy. This was our first weekend with nothing going on since Labor Day. We're all exhausted and need a break.
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Post by: merigayle on October 29, 2012, 01:22:55 PM
That is good. My DH would not know what to do with DD even with major direction.  :eyeroll:
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Post by: cgraz on October 29, 2012, 01:25:37 PM
I think I am going to lose a few pounds in the next few days because my stomach is doing flip flops. Had to force myself to eat something for lunch while I can still enjoy hot food. I did make sure to get some fruit and healthy stuff for our provisions, like unsweetened applesauce cups (my new favorite snack since being on WW).

This is going to be the longest day (and night)!
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 01:44:48 PM
Good luck, cgraz!!!

And meri, yeah, he's been great. The problem is that Reid totally knows how to push DH's buttons, and does. And DH reacts every.single.time.  :eyeroll:
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Post by: Run Amok on October 29, 2012, 02:09:47 PM
I think I am going to lose a few pounds in the next few days because my stomach is doing flip flops. Had to force myself to eat something for lunch while I can still enjoy hot food. I did make sure to get some fruit and healthy stuff for our provisions, like unsweetened applesauce cups (my new favorite snack since being on WW).

This is going to be the longest day (and night)!

Make your own applesauce- it's so easy and sooooooo much tastier than what you get in those cups.
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Post by: cgraz on October 29, 2012, 02:16:39 PM
Make your own applesauce- it's so easy and sooooooo much tastier than what you get in those cups.

I've done that before - just haven't had time this year. You need so many apples! I remember how much it cooks down. But that's a good reminder. Maybe a post-hurricane project.  :P

Meanwhile, Musselman's unsweetened will do in a pinch (or an evacuation)!
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Post by: merigayle on October 29, 2012, 02:43:59 PM
cgraz-- hang in there!!!!!

debba- oh DH cannot handle DD's 3 year old ways and has little patience and they push each others buttons. Like last night they had a big fight because she wanted to wear her tutu and he said it was too cold, so i was like, um, just make her put it over pants and a shirt. Duh. He does not think that way. I say no when things are ridiculous from her, but generally i work with her requests, cause she is just 3 and not out to get us. If she wanted to wear her ballerina outfit, i would not have blinked an eye and made her wear tights or pants and a shirt under it. Duh. But instead they had this huge fight upstairs  :eyeroll:
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 02:47:09 PM
DH got shitty with Reid the other day because Reid didn't take the frozen waffles out of the box "the right way." He just dumped them on the counter, and DH was like, "Why does he do it like that? Why does he always have to make a mess??"

A. They're FROZEN. It's not a mess. Good God.
B. Uh, he does it like that because that's how *I* do it.

But really, DH? You're going to get pissy over how Reid removes frozen waffles from a box? WHY CAN YOU NEVER READ THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT STUFF I GIVE YOU??? THIS! IS! NORMAL!!!!
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Post by: merigayle on October 29, 2012, 03:51:29 PM
Yep
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 03:52:22 PM
Also? You're losing to a toddler. :eyeroll:
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Post by: merigayle on October 29, 2012, 04:19:46 PM
There was just a fight in our house because DD wanted to be naked, then she wanted feeties and daddy was giving her pjs without feet  :panic:
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 04:23:30 PM
Yeah, that sounds about right.
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Post by: Bolloxd on October 29, 2012, 05:12:11 PM
It sounds like I'm fairly lucky in that DH will generally go with the flow when he's watching the kids. 

Dev, we've had trees crashing down near us and it is SCARY!  So glad you all are safe.  Are you getting much snow yet?  We've just got lots of cold wind here.

We have done pretty good on the potty training front.  R has not had any accidents for going on 3 days now!  D was doing well but had 2 accidents this morning...just too engrossed with tv.  But he always feels guilty about it and I make him help tidy it up.

Over the weekend we went to a pumpkin patch/farm which they loved.  We've been carving pumpkins this morning...well, I have.  I love roasted pumpkin seeds.  DH & I went on a 2.5 mile run during their nap, so I'm feeling pretty good after that.  DH & I spent some time just relaxing the other day and it was great.  Usually he is working or I am away at work, so it was good to just be together. :)

I need to finalize the kids' costumes this evening. 
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
We bought fake pumpkins and scotch-taped googly eyes and construction paper noses/mouths on them. I'm lazy.
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 05:33:57 PM
Oh, a quick update on my pregnant coworker with all the issues? She had the baby on the 24th, a full 15 days before her due date. TEN POUNDS.

Yeah, I'll be busting my ass to avoid gestational diabetes, thanks.  :o
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Post by: merigayle on October 29, 2012, 05:46:18 PM
Omg! I do know a few women with 10+ lb babies
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 05:47:21 PM
I know that some women just have big babies - hell, Reid was 8 lbs, 11 oz - but a 10-pounder a full two weeks early? I'm putting my money on the GD.
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Post by: merigayle on October 29, 2012, 06:28:02 PM
Oh yes! My mother had it w my brother and he was ten lbs and i was early and five lbs!

Just ate a bowl of brussel sprouts. Still have power for now and unsure what else to eat
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Post by: debbatx on October 29, 2012, 08:40:01 PM
Reid was right on time - born on his due date - I'm just fat. :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on October 30, 2012, 11:49:08 AM
So my running is really getting back on track. We ran 4 days last week which is acceptable (5 would be optimal). Now I just need to get my eating under control.
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Post by: Run Amok on October 30, 2012, 11:55:10 AM
Good job MM! I have a really hard time upping my mileage and controlling my eating at the same time. Running makes me hungry!!!
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Post by: debbatx on October 30, 2012, 12:08:20 PM
Great job, MM! I was supposed to start back at the gym tonight, but my trainer had to cancel. He's starting a new day job on Thursday, so he's trying to wrap up at his current job. I'm okay with that - Reid keeps waking up at 5:30, so I'm exhausted.
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Post by: merigayle on October 30, 2012, 06:42:24 PM
good job MM!
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Post by: Run Amok on October 30, 2012, 07:46:53 PM
I was planning to run tonight but my tummy is realllly iffy and it's straight up poring rain. Bleah.
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Post by: merigayle on October 30, 2012, 08:13:10 PM
i am a fair weather runner!
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Post by: debbatx on October 30, 2012, 09:10:02 PM
I'm planning on getting up and going for a walk in the morning. Reid's been waking up at 5:30 anyway. What's a half hour earlier?
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Post by: Bolloxd on October 31, 2012, 08:34:04 AM
i am a fair weather runner!

I call BS!  Badwater is in no way considered to be fair weather!  :). But yeah, I don't like running in rain either.

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Post by: debbatx on October 31, 2012, 08:46:52 AM
I'm a bad person. I called in sick today. I kind of hate myself for it, but it's done now, and I really do have a lot I need to get taken care of here.
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Post by: diablita on October 31, 2012, 09:14:13 AM
you are not a bad person, debba.  please.  you're taking a mental health day.  I took one two Wednesdays ago, badly needed, and it helped a lot.
enjoy yours and Happy Halloween!
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Post by: debbatx on October 31, 2012, 09:17:55 AM
Thanks, diablita.
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Post by: merigayle on October 31, 2012, 10:58:41 AM
I call BS!  Badwater is in no way considered to be fair weather!  :). But yeah, I don't like running in rain either.
nah, heat is ok for me, i detest wet or cold and the combination of the two. ice is a no go for me as well.

it is my bday, i will go out to dinner and i will enjoy it :)
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Post by: diablita on October 31, 2012, 10:17:59 PM
where did you go?  sushi buffet?
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Post by: merigayle on November 01, 2012, 08:20:08 AM
vegan buffet. And they only had cake cut into 1 inch x 1 inch squares, so not too much damage. They had some avocado sushi with brown rice, and then i had a little bit of everything-- spicy string beans, general tsao's, sweet and sour "meat"balls, stirfry, etc. I had nothing fried, and just a little bit of rice, no noodles, so i was happy with it. I ate a ton though.
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Post by: debbatx on November 01, 2012, 09:53:42 AM
I don't mind running in a drizzle or light rain. A downpour or super-cold weather (for us) - BLECH. Noooooo!

Glad you had a good birthday dinner, meri!! My day off really helped. I'm still tired - I woke up twice last night, both within a couple of hours of the alarm going off - but I'm definitely more relaxed. Getting done what I did yesterday (and sneaking out to a movie) gave my brain a big ol' break.
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Post by: cgraz on November 01, 2012, 09:56:15 AM
I am eating a bagel thin that was fried in butter. Eff it, it's a disaster and I am hungry. Food cooked on my stovetop is my only option for something hot.
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Post by: merigayle on November 01, 2012, 10:16:47 AM
Cgraz, all i wanted to do during storm was eat!
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Post by: Run Amok on November 01, 2012, 11:52:58 AM
Glad the day off helped!

Meri, that sounds like a great dinner!

I was planning to run yesterday afternoon, but got a call from dd at 2 that I needed to pick her up from school because her ride was going to be super late. Spent 3 hours in the car instead of running. Traffic was soooooooo horrible!

I *need* to run today but my tummy is in a total uproar. :(
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Post by: debbatx on November 01, 2012, 12:39:34 PM
Thanks - I could use about 3 more days like that! It's kind of sad that I'm looking forward to next Friday's checkup because it means I get to come to work late. I'm seriously contemplating taking Reid's birthday off (11/28), taking him to his checkup, then sending him to school so I can get stuff done around the house for his party that Saturday.
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Post by: merigayle on November 01, 2012, 01:09:44 PM
i secretly hoped the hurricane was a miss and that i would send DD to preschool and then take a day off to myself :D HAHAHAHA.

Oh and remind me to NEVER EVER EVER get on the scale the day after eating chinese food! wtf was i thinking, I *know* i will be up, a lot, yet i got on there and got super depressed. ugh. i want to smack some sense into myself.
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Post by: debbatx on November 01, 2012, 01:30:49 PM
Awwwwwwww. Yeah, sodium bloat sucks. :( One of the perks of my otherwise crappy job is Christmas break and spring break. I keep Reid in school for most of those days - I'll keep him out here and there or pick him up early or something - and actually get time to myself. It's AWESOME.
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Post by: merigayle on November 01, 2012, 01:34:37 PM
after the couple issues we had last week with DD's school, oh and yesterday she did not play outside, the GIRLS stayed inside because it was so muddy from the hurricane  :grr: and i have been exploring my options. There are not many that i would consider, but looking, and some of it may take away a lot of my time with DD, but at the same time, give me more time to self and more time for work, so i am considering it. WIll prob post more in yammering when i need some more ideas on what to do.
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Post by: debbatx on November 01, 2012, 03:04:14 PM
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat???? The girls weren't allowed to play in the mud?? Oh, hell no.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on November 01, 2012, 03:16:48 PM
Thanks - I could use about 3 more days like that! It's kind of sad that I'm looking forward to next Friday's checkup because it means I get to come to work late. I'm seriously contemplating taking Reid's birthday off (11/28), taking him to his checkup, then sending him to school so I can get stuff done around the house for his party that Saturday.

Do you get monday the 12th off? We do!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 01, 2012, 03:33:39 PM
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat???? The girls weren't allowed to play in the mud?? Oh, hell no.

 :fiery:

fuck that noise!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 01, 2012, 03:38:03 PM
Monday the 12th? No. Why?

ETA: Oh, duh. Veteran's Day, right? Nah, we're open.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 01, 2012, 03:56:05 PM
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat???? The girls weren't allowed to play in the mud?? Oh, hell no.
yeah i know. it is this batshit crazy director, she is the issue. She said the girls had to stay inside because it was too muddy. I am pretty sure I found a place for her, just trying to figure out Tues and Thurs afternoon childcare options, because DH cannot get to her before 5:30 most times. Just emailed the admissions person about it. There is the super fancy Waldorf academy as an option as well, but the cost is quite prohibitive. I am going to apply for financial aid, but the price increase from Prek to 1st grade (and inbetween) is so steep, that I fear that we would not be able to send her there past kindergarten :( This other place is just preschool and K, so all kids move up after that. Ugh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 01, 2012, 04:33:21 PM
Yeah, I'm starting to look around at options other than the neighborhood school, just in case it goes to shit in the next few years, and good lord. I really don't think we can afford any other options. It's mind-boggling how much private school would cost.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 01, 2012, 06:52:28 PM
Yeah, I'm starting to look around at options other than the neighborhood school, just in case it goes to shit in the next few years, and good lord. I really don't think we can afford any other options. It's mind-boggling how much private school would cost.
yep. i assumed we would send her to the charter school in the neighboring district, but 75+ kids on the waitlist for K and 60+ for 1st grade :( I will try, but really not hold my breath. The place i want to send her is $10,000 for their preK, $14,000 for K4 and K5, $16,000 for 1st grade. We could probably make it work for $8-10,000/yr, it would probably negate any savings we could accumulate and put any luxury out of our reach, but i think education is really important. They offer financial aid and the woman said on avg, you get 50% of what you need, so if the 3rd party company says you need $4000, they give you $2000. My concern is that we would be priced out of the school pretty darn fast :( There is a preschool that is $3000/yr and about $250/month for extended day, but leaves us with the evenings to figure out on Tues and Thurs. The Waldorf school (the pricey one) has a pickup and drop off to where DD is now (i would be fine with her there for 6 hrs a week and she will go there in the summer). There is a Montessori school near my office but it is $11,000/yr and no financial aid. Sigh. This sucks. I feel like a loser. There is the alternative school that would be probably at most, $10,000, but I would like to wait until 1st grade to send her there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on November 01, 2012, 07:44:54 PM
meri, I don't think you should feel like a loser b/c you can't afford the fortune it would take to send DD to private school for many year.  It's expensive!

There are so many great public schools in our area.  Are there none in yours?  (if not, sorry) 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 01, 2012, 07:57:36 PM
kinda a long story, but both DH and I had really bad public school experiences. The way our school districts are divided, ours is very far away. There are 2-3 closer districts, but the districts are divided quite oddly. The school is fine, but I am really a fan of private school education and the more personalized teaching and no teaching to the tests. We will find a way to send her to private school, but it may not be my top choice.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 01, 2012, 09:12:43 PM
One of the reasons we bought our tiny little house was because of the school district. It's good now, but in 3 years, who knows, you know?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 02, 2012, 07:57:37 AM
Ok, so I guess a busy 5k weekend, followed by the stress of a hurricane, followed by being chilly and eating comfort food is not all bad - I have lost another 4 lbs this week and am down 23 lbs overall since I started in July. I want to get another 5 or so down, and then I will work on a plan to maintain.

I have to say, I think WW really opened my eyes to some basic things that worked well for me. I don't think it's anything magical about the points, but really the overall way of thinking about meals and stuff. The tracking forced me to account for what I was eating and I pretty much eliminated mindless grazing and snacking. And I cut out a lot of junk and included more veggies and fruits. Plus, it gave some added motivation to increase activity, which I definitely did - it was like a little competition with myself to earn those activity points, or to have the incentive to have a treat if I got activity points for the day. It gave me a way to make different decisions - ie, I'll have the beer or the dessert, but not both. And I know I don't do well with deprivation (or feeling that way) so it was also good that there is a margin for treats once in a while, and that it gives you a fresh start (new points every day/week) if you feel like you totally went overboard at any point (like on vacation or something). Whatever that combination of things adds up to, it is working really well for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 02, 2012, 08:01:46 AM
good news, cgraz. I know when i started WW years ago, it really showed me TRUE portion sizes. Portions are SMALL :(

Oh and no public school has full day kindergarten :( that is another reason to send her private.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 02, 2012, 09:44:34 AM
Yeah, it's amazing how small portions really are. I keep telling DH, the recipes we make are intended to feed 4. If you eat half of it....

Luckily (?) for me, I get my portion, I serve one up for Reid, and if DH eats the rest, I don't have to worry about going back for seconds. WW has also helped me make better decisions - like I used to eat pretzels with my lunch every day, but they weren't worth the points, so I swapped to veggies and hummus. Of course, now that sounds disgusting, but it worked really well for a long, long time.

At the moment, I'm a salt zombie. You know how zombies shuffle around, moaning, "Brains.... braaaaaaaaiiiiiiiinnnnnns...." all the time? Yeah, I do that, only I'm moaning "Saaaaaaaaaalt....saaaaaaaaalllllllllltttttttt." It's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 02, 2012, 11:38:14 AM
i craved salt and potatoes like nobody's business in my first trimester and beyond!

So talking with the more affordable preschool, where she could go until Kindergarten and it is another hippy place, it is a cooperative preschool and the director has put me in touch with parents who could take DD to her current place 2 afternoons a week or watch her in general. Such nice people! DD's friend moved there in September and the mom just RAVES about it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 02, 2012, 11:46:58 AM
It's insane how much salt I want right now. Like, I want to go to Wendy's at lunch and get a burger and fries just for the salty taste.  :eyeroll:

That's great that you found a school where you can get help with the after-school care part!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on November 02, 2012, 11:53:18 AM
I actually got up early and ran before work. That never happens! Now I can relax on a Friday night. Yay!
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 02, 2012, 11:54:47 AM
I actually got up early and ran before work. That never happens! Now I can relax on a Friday night. Yay!

Nice! I love that feeling.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 02, 2012, 11:56:06 AM
Great job, MM! I think I'm going to get up and go for a walk tomorrow morning. I can take a nap in the afternoon if I need to.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 02, 2012, 12:15:53 PM
yeah MM!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on November 02, 2012, 12:54:44 PM
I talked antag into going to the worlds largest corn maze tomorrow. I hope it is really fun. One of my friends couldn't find her way out...she ended up following a group.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 02, 2012, 02:48:24 PM
report back about the maze!

so i am up THREE MORE POUNDS! WTF BODY???!?!?! However, i kicked ass on my TM run. Time to pick dakid up.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 02, 2012, 02:50:29 PM
Saaaaaaaaaaalllllllllt. Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllt..... :tombstone:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 02, 2012, 03:02:35 PM
I guess but that was wednesday and weight up more today! Ugh
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 02, 2012, 03:05:36 PM
Oh, I was just talking about me. But it can take me a few days to lose the sodium bloat.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on November 02, 2012, 10:26:44 PM
report back about the maze!

so i am up THREE MORE POUNDS! WTF BODY???!?!?! However, i kicked ass on my TM run. Time to pick dakid up.

Well my coworker called them to get hours and they said it was closed for the season due to wind and storm damage. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 03, 2012, 07:16:10 AM
Well my coworker called them to get hours and they said it was closed for the season due to wind and storm damage. :(
:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 03, 2012, 09:52:04 AM
i forgot, i was down a few lbs this morning from the highest weight i have seen since i was pregnant and that puts me only at 10lbs above summer Badwater weight  :grr:  However, looks like we are going to put DD in a new preschool starting in January and it would be me LOTS more time to run, and more time to work, so i am hoping to really knock this weight off. I am only eating 1400-1600 cals/day and running about 4 miles a day, so i do not think i am overeating or undereating. I wish i actually got to eat some good grub to gain the weight i gain. It is really depressing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 04, 2012, 05:43:22 PM
I hope it works, meri! Long, long weekend here, filled with bad food. Ugh. (The cheeseburger last night was totally worth it, though.) Back on track tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 05, 2012, 12:02:01 AM
Yeah, so Halloween has not been good for me. Ran fri, sat, Sun. though.

Tonight I made a bunch of food for the week.

I had some curry sauce and chutney in the freezer, so made curry for dinner plus three lunches. Cooked off farro and eggs. Roasting tomatoes and applesauce simmering on the stove now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 05, 2012, 07:26:56 AM
been doing ok and bought a big head of cabbage to make WW 0 point soup today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 05, 2012, 09:25:56 AM
Back on track today, sort of. We were exhausted when we got home yesterday, so didn't get to the grocery store, meaning I have to come up with something for lunch. I'll probably get a sandwich from the cafe upstairs. They're not huge, but they can't be terribly healthy, but.... they're not awful, either. But after this weekend, it'll be a vast improvement.

Now, to get out of bed and take the dog for a walk tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 05, 2012, 12:14:15 PM
I spent the last week hiking 5-10 miles a day.  And I still gained 5 pounds, due to 5 Guys hamburgers, biscuits and gravy, grits, quiche, and spoonbread. 

Now it's officially 2 months til I hit the beach in Jamaica.   It's going to be ugly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 05, 2012, 12:22:13 PM
Did you both get your vacation time approved, Mini? 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 05, 2012, 12:41:33 PM
I'm just hoping to be close to the same weight on Friday that I was on October 12th. It'll keep me from getting yelled at by my doctor. :)

Mini, you just send the biscuits and gravy my way, 'mmmmkay?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 05, 2012, 12:53:53 PM
Mini, are you totally healed up from your accident this summer? If you're hiking that much, I'm guessing the answer is yes!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 05, 2012, 01:11:52 PM
been doing ok and bought a big head of cabbage to make WW 0 point soup today.

Oh.. I need to do that!  I love that soup.  I think I have it on Pinterest somewhere... Do you have the recipe pinned and if so, what is the name of the board?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 05, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
I just repinned it to my "what i am making this week" board, probably the last one, scroll down, of my boards on my profile.

Just ate a bowl or it. Totally yummy. I completely altered it, but still good, added 3xs the liquid and 3xs the veggies :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 05, 2012, 02:56:50 PM
Did you both get your vacation time approved, Mini? 



Yes!  The Boss's Boss finally said: you've got the time, I'll take care of it. 

I'm at about 90%.  I had some pain in my ankle hiking, but it was manageable.  I still don't have full flexibility.  Lawyer is still working on extracting bucks from the insurance company. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 05, 2012, 03:47:29 PM
MOS- I've made a couple of the soup receipes here- low points and decently yummy http://kitchen-parade-veggieventure.blogspot.com/2006/01/day-285-weight-watchers-zero-points.html (http://kitchen-parade-veggieventure.blogspot.com/2006/01/day-285-weight-watchers-zero-points.html)

Glad to hear you are mostly back!

Lunch with a friend. I had a bowl of veggie soup. It wasn't really all that satisfying so I might treat it as a snack and still eat the lunch I brought in a little while. It'll be a little over on the calories (the soup is only about 100calories per serving, but there was some cheese shaved on top), but that's ok.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 05, 2012, 03:50:41 PM
Pinning the asian WW 0 point soup!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 05, 2012, 04:23:20 PM
Thanks for the link, RA!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 06, 2012, 10:55:24 AM
Mmmm, soup!  Two days post-vacation healthy eating, and it's nice to be back in my usual rut.  I'm a little hungry, but trying to fill up on DFW.  Hydration is a big problem this time of year with the heat kicking on. 

12 pounds til vacation!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 06, 2012, 11:00:29 AM
Is the soup filling? I'm still looking for other lunch options.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 06, 2012, 11:02:50 AM
Debba, I'd say not on its own. But, my lunch is usually soup + a sandwhich and an apple and all of that together is decently filling. Have you tried eating smaller portions more frequently? That might help also.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 06, 2012, 11:04:18 AM
Yeah, I do that already. I need a low-point sandwich, and that doesn't exist because of the bread. Hmph.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 06, 2012, 11:30:29 AM
What kind of bread are you using?

I seem to remember that the sara lee delightful bread is pretty low points- like 1pt/slice, or something? The slices are small, but they taste like real bread.

My 300 calorie lunch usually looks like 1 cup of soup, 2 slices of bread, 1 slice of lf cheese + as many veggies as I can cram onto the sandwich. You could do a few slices of lunch meat instead though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 06, 2012, 11:35:06 AM
Whole wheat. It's 2 pts a slice, so 4 for a sandwich. Add some protein and it's pretty easy to get an 8-point sandwich without trying very hard. I can't do raw veggies on their own right now - they make me gag. :( That's why I was looking at soup.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 06, 2012, 11:46:24 AM
There is a sara lee delightful whole wheat (that is usually the one I buy). If I go straight wheat, I look for the one with the least calories and then I do one slice (cause they are usually 90 calories/slice, but can be much more if you don't watch it).  It's ok for me... but I can see how a half sandwich and a cup of soup might feel meager... and really doesn't seem like enough food for a pregnant lady!

Also, by then I've had breakfast, a morning snack, and know there is another snack coming soon.

Are leftovers an option for you for lunch?

What about soup plus a couple of hardboiled eggs? Calories would be about the same, might be more filling. I don't know if you like them or not though.

Do you like tzatziki? I sometimes make a little dish of savory yorgurt to eat along with my soup instead of a sandwich. If you like tzatziki you might enjoy it. But then you just said raw veggies make you gag.  :-\

The nice thing about the zero point soup (it's only zero points for the first cup, after that it does have some point value... I think) is that you can eat as much of it as you like. So you could eat a half a sandwich and a big bowl of soup and you might feel satisfied.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 06, 2012, 11:47:47 AM
I have been using the Arnold Pocket Thins - they are soft and satifying, but only 3 points and shaving that one point off helps when making a sandwich!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 06, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
I miss bread.  :( 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 06, 2012, 12:12:41 PM
Oooh, thanks for the tip, cgraz!

And I really only need an extra 300 calories a day, which isn't hard to do when you're a bottomless pit. I'm just trying to make better choices and work a little more variety in to my diet. A bigger portion of the 0-point soup is a good idea, maybe with leftovers or even the sandwich or something. Leftovers are occasionally an option, assuming DH doesn't eat 3 portions at dinner.  :eyeroll:

I usually do breakfast, a Chobani cup around 10:15, lunch, another snack at about 3:15 (a Luna or another Chobani these days), and then dinner. I had been doing almonds and string cheese in the afternoon, but they started making me gag, too.  :-\

Sorry about the bread talk, Courtney.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 06, 2012, 12:19:03 PM
:D 

It's ok!

I'm such a mess this week!  We are moving on Saturday, and we have been traveling the past two weekends, so my food choices have been limited and crappy.  Es no bueno. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 06, 2012, 12:34:28 PM
Oh, I hate stuff like that. We've had something every single weekend since Labor Day. This coming weekend is our first weekend off, and I actually have a lot to get done around the house.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 06, 2012, 01:57:33 PM
Oh, I hate stuff like that. We've had something every single weekend since Labor Day. This coming weekend is our first weekend off, and I actually have a lot to get done around the house.  :sigh:

I'm letting it derail me, which I don't have to do...  but TBH, when we were back for DH's grandma's funeral, my food choices were so limited.  The luncheon had bread, pasta salads, and other pot luck type foods that I can't really take a chance with (gluten is everywhere).  I was STARVING by the time we got done late in the afternoon.  The only thing to grab at that point came from a convenience store, and well, you know how that goes.  Hello snickers and cheetos.  :D 

Then we got to my mom's and she'd made, special for me, these awesome no-bake peanut butter chocolate cookies.  Deeeelish.  Then fast food on the way home, which basically means french fries or gas station food.  Last weekend was a bit better, since we were in Ft. Worth, but still... 

Now this week, I can't seem to get myself on the bandwagon, and I can't really buy groceries since I'd just have to move them, and blah blah blah.  I'm going to have a baked potato and some steamed veggies for lunch, I think.  Tonight will probably be a salad from either qdoba or mad greens. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 06, 2012, 02:01:39 PM
You know, sometimes you just have to go with it. I gave myself a bit of a pass last week with halloween. I could have fought, and won, the urge. But, I just went with it. *shrug* It's a new week. Not the end of the world, you know?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 06, 2012, 02:23:59 PM
At least cheetos and snickers don't have gluten? I'm trying to look on the bright side, here!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 06, 2012, 02:58:02 PM
At least cheetos and snickers don't have gluten? I'm trying to look on the bright side, here!

Oh yeah, totally!  :D 

RA, definitely.  I'm going to just get thru the week/weekend and then we'll make some good changes at home!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 07, 2012, 04:28:13 PM
Hopped on the scale for the first time in a couple of weeks and back within 3lbs of my lowest. So, happy with that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 07, 2012, 04:52:38 PM
I have to cook something tonight. Frozen pizza and leftover takeout is killing me. I've just been completely exhausted by the time I get home lately. Hmph.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on November 07, 2012, 05:35:15 PM
great stuff, RA.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 07, 2012, 08:18:43 PM
Hopped on the scale for the first time in a couple of weeks and back within 3lbs of my lowest. So, happy with that.
good job
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 07, 2012, 08:30:11 PM
Cooked tonight. Yay! Beef and broccoli stir-fry. Deeeelicious.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on November 07, 2012, 10:22:12 PM
Yay RA and debba!   I'm getting the snacking back under control as well.

endomondo has been SO good for me.  The challenge with my co-workers ends next Friday (zombie run next Sat) and I'll really miss it.  Today was 42 degrees, drizzy/miserable and I still got a lunchtime run in.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 08, 2012, 08:28:46 AM
endomondo?

Breakfast is always the hardest meal for me. Either it is not filling or nothing sounds good and healthy. I am making a baked oatmeal recipe right now. http://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/2011/03/15/cookie-dough-baked-oatmeal/ (http://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/2011/03/15/cookie-dough-baked-oatmeal/)
DH and DD have been sick on an off for a couple weeks with colds/coughs and i am doing my best to stay healthy and not fall into their sick comfort eating/snacking. I have a little cough and post nasal drip/sore throat, but come on, moms are not allowed to get sick, LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 08, 2012, 08:52:07 AM
it was yummy!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 08, 2012, 09:37:40 AM
Meri- endomondo is an app for your phone that tracks your runs- distance, pace, etc. It's a pretty cool little app. Kind of squirrelly for me, but others don't seem to have the same issues.

D- I hope you keep running! I like seeing what you and Rio are up to. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 08, 2012, 10:56:26 AM
Reid has, I think, a nasty case of allergies going on right now. He sounds terrible, and has an awful cough, but doesn't seem sick, if that makes sense. Poor kid. And then last night at 12:30 he said his ears hurt. I really hope it's not turning into an ear infection, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if it did.  :sigh:

Lunch-wise, I'm still just eating apples and PB&J and Chobanis, sometimes with a Luna bar thrown in there for kicks. Not great, but there's nothing horrible in there, either. I was exhausted last night when I got home, but I managed to pull myself together and make the stir-fry anyway. It was delicious, and I need to remember that tonight. I didn't want to do it, but I did, and it worked and was great.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on November 08, 2012, 05:11:06 PM
Lunch-wise, I'm still just eating apples and PB&J and Chobanis, sometimes with a Luna bar thrown in there for kicks. Not great, but there's nothing horrible in there, either. I was exhausted last night when I got home, but I managed to pull myself together and make the stir-fry anyway. It was delicious, and I need to remember that tonight. I didn't want to do it, but I did, and it worked and was great.

I saw a soup recipe and thought of you ... cooked veggies, filling (I've made a variation before), and some ginger to calm the nausea. http://www.skinnytaste.com/2012/02/skinny-yet-creamy-carrot-ginger-soup.html (http://www.skinnytaste.com/2012/02/skinny-yet-creamy-carrot-ginger-soup.html) (note, skip ff sour cream and use yogurt or ff half and half instead)  Butternut squash and other veggies would work too.
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Post by: debbatx on November 08, 2012, 05:17:00 PM
Ooooh, thanks!!
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Post by: diablita on November 08, 2012, 07:26:18 PM
hi teetime!  how are you doing?
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Post by: teetime on November 09, 2012, 09:54:26 AM
hi teetime!  how are you doing?

Overall, great!  Though, by life domain, this varies :)

Had an amazing vacation a couple weeks ago -- took off a month from TTC -- ran and hiked and drank wine all I wanted (and got a very pretty ring to make things with J official :))

In terms of healthy eating and fitness, closer to a rant than a rave currently.  Back at the TTC thing (the biggest domain specific downer) and this current round of meds has me feeling like a giant puff ball.  Which may also be due to the post vacation bad habits (we were super active and when camping never eat too much so came home feeling good but got out of the habit of cooking full meals so have been snacking which always leaves me feeling pretty gross).  Thanksgiving will be challenging as I'll soon be in a 2ww and am going to try my hardest to not over workout this time around.

Anyway!  What have you cooked lately that I can try to make sure we have a nicely stocked fridge leading up to the holiday?
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Post by: merigayle on November 09, 2012, 10:01:46 AM
teetime- glad you had a nice trip. Those fertility meds, esp progesterone will puff you up. I think they say women gain an avg of TWENTY pounds during fertility treatments! Are you on pinterest?
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Post by: teetime on November 09, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
teetime- glad you had a nice trip. Those fertility meds, esp progesterone will puff you up. I think they say women gain an avg of TWENTY pounds during fertility treatments! Are you on pinterest?

Christ really?!  At barely 5'1" that would be a 20% increase :nono:

Luckily I've only puffed up a bit around this time (close to ovulation) and then by the time I get my period start to feel better ... it's all in my fingers, boobs, and abs area though so that's no fun.  I've only had to take progesterone once in 7 cycles so maybe that has helped.  Also, I can attribute most of it to habits too so luckily the meds don't seem to be driving too much more than some water retention that hasn't been long term.  :fingers: that would continue if I have to move on to IVF (actually  :fingers: :fingers: I don't have to take that step at all ... I wouldn't mind staying a bit bloated if there was a baby in there!)

I am sort of on pininterest.  Have an account and can poke around.  I just rarely go as I don't quite understand what to do with it.  (E.g., you search for a chicken recipe and get 12 pictures of the same thing)
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Post by: merigayle on November 09, 2012, 11:25:51 AM
yeah searching can be hard, i like to look at what other people post (friends and people i followed on pinterest along the way). I will search for vegan and get boards and then if people posts some pretty good recipes, then i will follow them, etc.
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Post by: debbatx on November 09, 2012, 11:54:38 AM
OMG, the progesterone gave me awful bloat when they upped the dose. Like, I hadn't gained any weight, but couldn't fit into my jeans anymore.  :nono: It did go away eventually. Ugh.

cgraz, I'm with you on the pinterest thing. I have it, I've used it a little, but I never really do anything about the stuff I've pinned. I dunno.

12-week visit today. Everything's looking good, and my weight held steady! The nurse was like, "We don't want you to diet, you know." I was just... "Uh, I'm not. Believe me. I'm not dieting. At. All." WTF? I'm supposed to only gain 15 pounds, but then the nurse is.... concerned, I guess?... when I stay steady? I'm FAT, lady. Believe me, there's plenty for the baby. PLENTY.
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Post by: merigayle on November 09, 2012, 12:50:04 PM
you can't win, debba!!
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Post by: debbatx on November 09, 2012, 12:59:53 PM
I know! The baby's doing just fine - nice strong heartbeat, the correct number of limbs (I think), measuring right on time, so clearly I'm eating enough. And I'm certainly not dangerously tiny or anything. So... WTF? I'm doing what you told me to!
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Post by: teetime on November 09, 2012, 01:08:53 PM
yeah searching can be hard, i like to look at what other people post (friends and people i followed on pinterest along the way). I will search for vegan and get boards and then if people posts some pretty good recipes, then i will follow them, etc.

Did you ask because there are some boards on the topic (weight and fertility meds)?  I'd certainly seek them out.  (Or did you just notice another Meredith among your followers and guess it was me ;)?)
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Post by: merigayle on November 09, 2012, 02:37:44 PM
How did i not know you were a meredith???  :panic: awesome! No, i mentioned it because of all the kick ass recipes and you asked about good recipes lately. I put all my entrees that i made in a separate board labeled meals i have made or soemthing like that :D

pinterest can be hard to navigate, for sure!
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Post by: teetime on November 09, 2012, 04:23:39 PM
How did i not know you were a meredith???  :panic: awesome! No, i mentioned it because of all the kick ass recipes and you asked about good recipes lately. I put all my entrees that i made in a separate board labeled meals i have made or soemthing like that :D

pinterest can be hard to navigate, for sure!

Ah, I will check them out.

Years ago (almost certain old CH/Coolrunning years ago) we split a shipment of PB2 and you sent a couple jars to me.  I'm that Meredith :)
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Post by: debbatx on November 09, 2012, 04:34:37 PM
Met DH for lunch - we got Thai food. Now it's all I want. Whatever they put in the sauce for my #15? I want it. MORE.

Sadly, I'm facing a likely blah (in comparison) dinner. :(
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Post by: merigayle on November 09, 2012, 05:20:09 PM
Ah, I will check them out.

Years ago (almost certain old CH/Coolrunning years ago) we split a shipment of PB2 and you sent a couple jars to me.  I'm that Meredith :)
omg! too funny. That was so long ago, i do vaguely remember that! LOL.
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Post by: merigayle on November 09, 2012, 07:49:36 PM
If i am prepared, i do well. I brought my soup to work yesterday and today in addition to my lunch and yesterday i never even ate my snacks (fruit) because i was not even hungry. Today was fine, i felt no mojo on my run and it was just a walk. I am trying to avoid eating some bread. Almost bed time i think i can make it :D
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 10, 2012, 07:05:26 AM
I've lost 5 lbs since Tuesday!  Last weekend I looked at an old picture from when I worked with the sports nutritionist in Maine 5 years ago.  I called him to see if we could work on line or over the phone and decided to plunk the $$$ down to work with him.  I am eating basically the same foods, but in different combos.  My main problem is my gut.  He has me eating every 2 to 2 1/2 hours. My other problem is no mindfulness of if I am really hungry or not. So having a set schedule of what to eat and when to eat it takes that piece away from me.  Nothing I eat has changed, but for instance, I was eating oatmeal with either nuts, fruit or peanut butter... He wants me to eat oatmeal with a scoop of whey protein and almond milk.  Apparently the protein is a better combo with the carb.  Ny calories are around 1700 (although two days I came in at 1500) but the frequent eating keeps my metabolism burning like a furnace....I eat 8 meals (some of which are either just a apple or just almonds)  usually at 6, 8, 10:30, 12:30, 2:30, 4:30, 6:30 and then real dinner at 7:30 ish.
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Post by: diablita on November 10, 2012, 08:28:15 AM
that's great, MOS!!

 :lambie: :fsm: :tombstone: :hiker: :cat: :doglick: :rub:  <--- Jessica wanted me to post these for you
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Post by: MiniDriver on November 10, 2012, 08:46:02 AM
Wow, MoS!

I've worked like a galley slave to take off 3 of the 5 vacation pounds and woke up this am to find 2 back on! :mad: I'm assuming it's just bloat, but still fucking demoralizing.
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Post by: debbatx on November 10, 2012, 08:46:49 AM
Aw, mini, that sucks!! You can do it!
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Post by: cgraz on November 10, 2012, 09:28:34 AM
Amazingly, when I weighed in Friday after the 10 days of now power and eating things like pasta, stew, pasta, oatmeal, and other stovetop-friendly foods, I hadn't gained. Still doing ok. So I celebrated by going out to eat with neighbors to the local Mom & Pop Italian place, and chowing down on chicken parmesan, rolls, and red wine.

Today is a new day.  :)
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Post by: merigayle on November 10, 2012, 10:49:52 AM
good job cgraz!

 :bow2: MoS

I am down a few lbs from my high high weigh ins of last week/earlier in the week. That makes me feel good. Will probably make another large batch of WW 0pt soup.
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Post by: debbatx on November 10, 2012, 11:21:09 AM
Good job, cgraz!! MoS, that's really inspiring. I'm working on holding steady for a bit longer - not trying to lose, just trying to not gain too much.
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Post by: cgraz on November 10, 2012, 11:25:01 AM
Holy crap, I just went through some of my pants to see what fits now that I am seeing the weight loss from the past 5 months really showing results and the size 10s I have been wearing are a little loose. I am fitting into some size 6 pants for work! I was a 12 when I started. I guess it really is making a visible difference now! Still size 8 for jeans - I do think some of those 6s are a little looser cut than a true 6, but I'll take it.
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Post by: debbatx on November 10, 2012, 11:27:18 AM
That's fabulous cgraz!!!! Congrats!!!
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Post by: merigayle on November 10, 2012, 11:30:13 AM
awesome cgraz!!!
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Post by: cgraz on November 10, 2012, 11:41:55 AM
It does feel good. I am very short, just so it doesn't sound like I am bragging about the small size. I still think I look pretty average in size, and am not a small framed person for my height.
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Post by: merigayle on November 10, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
i went to costco and only had one sample :)
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 10, 2012, 04:00:41 PM
i went to costco and only had one sample :)

Good job!

So I ran today , a little over 6.5 miles and my last 3 were under 9 min mile base but it felt easy to me. I'm already noticing a difference in my running which is the main reason to do this. I want to be faster and run another marathon and maybe even qualify for Boston again
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Post by: merigayle on November 10, 2012, 04:38:57 PM
Yeah, MoS!!! I am going to the NJ Marathon if you are interested in a flat, easy spring race :)
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 10, 2012, 05:24:19 PM
Yeah, MoS!!! I am going to the NJ Marathon if you are interested in a flat, easy spring race :)

When is it?

I'm trying to get my speed up because for the month of December I've been promised one night a week of running with you know who.. His easy easy day.. my tempo day!!!  Although, even on my tempo day I won't be able to run as fast as his easy day..
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Post by: merigayle on November 10, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
Early may :) I am a pacer and run it every year, except when i was pregnant. It is a nice race. Long Branch, NJ. Probably gonna get a hotel the night before.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 10, 2012, 06:45:15 PM
Early may :) I am a pacer and run it every year, except when i was pregnant. It is a nice race. Long Branch, NJ. Probably gonna get a hotel the night before.

May 10th is my nieces wedding, so that probably wouldn't work... thinking of a possible trip to Pineland...
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Post by: merigayle on November 10, 2012, 06:55:47 PM
May 10th is my nieces wedding, so that probably wouldn't work... thinking of a possible trip to Pineland...
:(

Pineland Farms? Not a fast race, all trails, a fun time and a big party.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 10, 2012, 07:01:47 PM
:(

Pineland Farms? Not a fast race, all trails, a fun time and a big party.

Yesp.. done the 25 k 3 times... I need any excuse to go to Maine.
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Post by: merigayle on November 10, 2012, 07:46:23 PM
You should do the  50k there!
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Post by: MiniDriver on November 11, 2012, 08:58:27 AM
Back down to a pound less than Friday - 3 less than yesterday?  The scale makes no sense. 

My husband offered me a pumpkin donut and slice of custard pie, and I declined both.  He ate 'em.  He's trying to lose too, but only in a half-hearted not giving up desserts kind of way.
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Post by: merigayle on November 11, 2012, 10:35:05 AM
mmmmm pumpkin donut..........
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 11, 2012, 11:01:36 AM
Back down to a pound less than Friday - 3 less than yesterday?  The scale makes no sense. 

My husband offered me a pumpkin donut and slice of custard pie, and I declined both.  He ate 'em.  He's trying to lose too, but only in a half-hearted not giving up desserts kind of way.

I went to a cake cupcake party last night. Gorgeous cakes and cupcakes. I.did.not.eat.a.crumb.
Somehow I think it's easier to resist when you are a) in the first week of a program and b) paying a rjdiculous amount of $$ for someone to tell you what to eat and you have to report back to him what you ate and your weight.
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Post by: MiniDriver on November 12, 2012, 09:02:38 AM
Almost back to pre- vacation weight!  Now comes the hard part: 10 lbs by Jan 1.

I am so ready for the Holiday WLC. 
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Post by: cgraz on November 12, 2012, 09:06:01 AM
Holidays will be tough. I am determined to keep things really on track for the next week and a half (!!) until Thanksgiving, and then Christmas will be coming up pretty quickly. Luckily we don't have many holiday parties or things like that, but there will be the family gatherings.

I just want to keep on track and not lose ground over the holidays. Anybody have any strategies? My first one might be offering to host Thanksgiving so I can keep the dishes on the lighter side with plenty of veggies.
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Post by: debbatx on November 12, 2012, 10:30:58 AM
Holidays are tough for us, too. Thanksgiving, Reid's birthday party, the in-laws come in - which makes cooking difficult, although I might try a little harder this time - Christmas, New Year's....  :panic:
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Post by: merigayle on November 12, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
So I took DD to the new preschool today, she LOVED LOVED LOVED it, that is, until she realized that it meant leaving her current place :( She loved it so much so that we were getting ready to leave and she wanted to go back to the purple classroom (that would be hers) for another 20 minutes! She played in the playground, which is beyond awesome, for at least 30 minutes. They were like, she can start tomorrow if you want and i was like, oh, i was thinking january, but may consider Dec 1. I have to talk to her current place now. ugh. She will go there 2 afternoons for 2-3 hours, so she won't be totally gone.
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Post by: debbatx on November 12, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
Awww, that's awesome that she's all fired up about the new place, and bittersweet that she's sad about not being at her current spot as often. But her current place, that director sounds nuts. You're doing the right thing.
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Post by: merigayle on November 12, 2012, 12:21:31 PM
I know. DH is going to go Wed night (although it will be empty of kids! LOL) to check it out. To say the playground was incredible is a far understatement. It is 2.5 acres (the playground!!) and is just full of amazing things for them. It is wooded and across from all these farms. It is a few miles from our house (4?) but in an area i have never ventured to. It is a parent cooperative, so each parent (well, one per kid) has to do 3 hours a week as a classroom aid, i could easily do Tues mornings. Now we have to decide to start her now or in January. Now being Dec 1. And then i have to talk to insane director lady :(
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Post by: debbatx on November 12, 2012, 12:26:22 PM
Sounds awesome!!
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Post by: merigayle on November 12, 2012, 01:04:07 PM
Except they  do not nap!  :panic:
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Post by: debbatx on November 12, 2012, 01:43:11 PM
Ack!!!
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Post by: merigayle on November 12, 2012, 02:16:00 PM
I know, but DD is on the verge of no more naps anyways. So i guess it will be fine once we get thru the transition.
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Post by: debbatx on November 12, 2012, 02:27:51 PM
Oh, if she's on the verge, then I wouldn't worry too much. Every time I think Reid's on the verge of dropping his nap (*sob*) he turns around and sleeps for 2 hours for me, so....
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Post by: merigayle on November 12, 2012, 02:39:12 PM
today she would not nap and after 1 hour, i just made her lay on the couch and watch tv (right now).
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Post by: debbatx on November 12, 2012, 02:52:47 PM
I wish. The few times Reid hasn't napped, our attempts at "quiet time" have been miserable failures.  :eyeroll:
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Post by: merigayle on November 12, 2012, 02:57:25 PM
she just was not evn winding down at nap time and after an hour i was just fed up with laying in there with her. It was too frustrating! I have my sewing class tonight, so DH gets to deal with her :D
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Post by: debbatx on November 12, 2012, 03:38:38 PM
LOL - good luck to your DH.
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Post by: merigayle on November 13, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
OMG! DH emailed me that DD told the bat shit crazy school director that she was going to a new school. No more details than that. I was hoping to just avoid talking to her about it and talk to the teacher taht handles all the financials  :nails: :panic:
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Post by: merigayle on November 13, 2012, 06:44:17 PM
OMG OMG OMG! Talked to DH and the director approached him and asked him straight out. My super shy husband  :yikes: he told her we just started talking about it and have not made a decision yet. She told him they need 1 month notice and i have no issue with that, but is it notice if she is still going to be going there???? I dunno. I am like, let's send her tomorrow to the new place! LOL. We go tomorrow night with DH to look at it.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 14, 2012, 08:33:20 AM
OMG OMG OMG! Talked to DH and the director approached him and asked him straight out. My super shy husband  :yikes: he told her we just started talking about it and have not made a decision yet. She told him they need 1 month notice and i have no issue with that, but is it notice if she is still going to be going there???? I dunno. I am like, let's send her tomorrow to the new place! LOL. We go tomorrow night with DH to look at it.

OMG!  Awkward!
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Post by: merigayle on November 14, 2012, 08:38:53 AM
I am going to drop DD off in 20 minutes, hopefully my interactions with her director will be brief and i can talk to the other woman who handles the financials when i pick her up. AND i have a dentist appt this morning.  :'(
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Post by: debbatx on November 14, 2012, 10:12:27 AM
Eeeek! Good luck!
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Post by: merigayle on November 14, 2012, 12:22:44 PM
well i was the better person and instead of avoiding her this morning, i approached her and told her we were looking at it for the fall and did not expect them to have an immediate opening and that we are returning tonight with DH and then will make a decision and can i talk to her assistant (who does the financials and schedule) at 3pm when i pick Zoe up.  :fingers: DH is part convinced they are going to tell me to hit the road instead of taking her for 6 hours a week + when the new place is closed, but i do not think so, there is one boy who comes just a couple days a month.
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Post by: Run Amok on November 14, 2012, 12:35:17 PM
I have been a bottomless pit the past few days. I need to just toss the leftovers from the dinner party I had this weekend. Too tempting! I need to get back onm track!
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Post by: debbatx on November 14, 2012, 12:36:55 PM
The guy in my department just brought in Wendy's for his lunch. I'm about to beat him up for his food. It's the salt thing again. Normally I'm not a big fan of Wendy's.
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Post by: cgraz on November 14, 2012, 12:41:57 PM
Oh, I have been craving fast food something fierce this week. (Sure enough, checked the calendar...yup, period is due on Sunday...) We were parked near a Wendy's to get gas the other day and when the smell wafted in the window, I just about lost my mind. Wendy's is my favorite of the fast food chains, but I am even drooling over the idea of a McD's cheeseburger and fries.

Glad to be resisting but it is hard! Salt is always a big weakness for me.
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Post by: debbatx on November 14, 2012, 01:05:55 PM
I have a 3-hour seminar this afternoon. I may have to run out in a bit and get a bag of Fritos and a coke to get me through. I'm about to fall asleep.
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Post by: merigayle on November 14, 2012, 01:45:57 PM
being vegetarian helps in this department :D
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Post by: debbatx on November 14, 2012, 01:57:34 PM
I did it. I went out and got Fritos and a Coke. Apologies to Newbie, because that's not a very healthy lunch for an 11-week old fetus, but OMG SO GOOD.
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Post by: Run Amok on November 14, 2012, 02:17:34 PM
being vegetarian helps in this department :D

Not really. Being vegan, probably yes. But, fritos and coke are totally veggie. Lots of options at taco bell, taco time, and the breakfast sandwhiches at jack in the box are yummy, and available all day.  :d
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Post by: onawhim on November 14, 2012, 02:25:58 PM
Not really. Being vegan, probably yes. But, fritos and coke are totally veggie. Lots of options at taco bell, taco time, and the breakfast sandwhiches at jack in the box are yummy, and available all day.  :d

I can do tons of damage without any meat in the picture for sure  :D
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Post by: merigayle on November 14, 2012, 05:09:39 PM
Not really. Being vegan, probably yes. But, fritos and coke are totally veggie. Lots of options at taco bell, taco time, and the breakfast sandwhiches at jack in the box are yummy, and available all day.  :d
i guess. i have never been to a taco bell and jack in the box are not in our area. i don't drink soda, that was a hard habit to quit :D
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Post by: merigayle on November 14, 2012, 05:12:38 PM
Oh and DD's current school says they may not want her for only 2 afternoons (and when the other school is closed) a week  :'( So they will let me know tomorrow, which means we would not start DD until Jan, but i really wanted to start her in 1.5 weeks. We are going back in  alittle with DH to look at the school again. I am so upset with DD's current school that even if they say ok, i may find alternate plans. :( BUT part of me thinks i am just listening to my emotions and making rash decisions :D
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Post by: debbatx on November 14, 2012, 05:18:17 PM
Uh, her current school director sounds bonkers. I don't think you're making a rash decision.
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Post by: merigayle on November 14, 2012, 05:37:10 PM
DH said pay for december and dont even send her, so he is more pissed! No matter what i hink i need to look elsewhere for those two days.
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Post by: merigayle on November 15, 2012, 12:01:25 PM
They said no and i actually almost cried. Even though we have had issues over the past month or so, it has been a really nice place for Zoe, i just think she is ready to move on and i guess they cannot accept that. I asked about camp and they said they need to know in Feb/March, IF they have space for her :(
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Post by: debbatx on November 15, 2012, 12:37:09 PM
Ugh, I'm sorry they're being so difficult. :( Do you have other options for those two days?
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Post by: merigayle on November 15, 2012, 01:36:26 PM
The new place gave me a mom who was interested and i talked to her. SHockingly professional (for another hippy school), she watches a few kids in her home and she could pick DD up those two days and watch her. She is child abuse cleared, FBI cleared and is about to be certified as a home care provider for children. She is sending me references next and we are meeting her tomorrow afternoon :) Whew. Seems like everything is falling into place.
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Post by: debbatx on November 15, 2012, 01:52:29 PM
Excellent!!!

In food-related news, I think I'm going to quit WW for the rest of the pregnancy. It's too hard to manage points right now, and I'm really trying to focus on maintaining. I'm tired of the software being concerned for me since I'm not losing weight. :) Plus that's almost $20 a month.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 15, 2012, 03:27:46 PM
Debba, I think that is a good decision.  :)  Maybe just focus on eating whole foods as much as possible and not beating yourself up? 

I just rejoined.  Now I need to actually TRACK something.  :D 

My trainer just KILLED my abs.  Holy shitsnacks.  I've got some steamer veggies and a yogurt for lunch.  My boss and I are going for a 2 for 1 starbucks treat this afternoon, so I'm saving 3 points for a skinny peppermint mocha.  Mmmmmmm.  It will be just the ticket. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 15, 2012, 03:37:35 PM
eating my cabbage soup like a religion :D Debba, sounds like the right choice for now. Courtney, hugs to your abs :D
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Post by: Run Amok on November 15, 2012, 04:22:22 PM
Debba, I think that is a good decision.  :)  Maybe just focus on eating whole foods as much as possible and not beating yourself up? 

yes! for the love of pete!
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Post by: Courtney on November 15, 2012, 04:50:12 PM
eating my cabbage soup like a religion :D Debba, sounds like the right choice for now. Courtney, hugs to your abs :D

They definitely need a hug.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 15, 2012, 04:56:15 PM
I'll never be able to stop beating myself up, at least, not for a long, long time, and likely not without therapy, which isn't an option at the moment, so.... eh. But I am going to quit for the time being. It's stupid to pay for it when I'm not trying to lose, but rather maintain and then control the gain.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 17, 2012, 11:58:05 AM
OMFG one of my patients asked me if i gained 10lbs since i last saw her in June  :grr: :nono:
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Post by: cgraz on November 17, 2012, 12:07:19 PM
Who the hell would do that?

Not to mention, that I don't know how noticeable 10 pounds really is.
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Post by: merigayle on November 17, 2012, 12:31:59 PM
I am 5'8", can't be THAT noticeable  :sigh:
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Post by: debbatx on November 17, 2012, 09:57:50 PM
Good lord.  :fiery: (give her some accupressure)
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Post by: merigayle on November 18, 2012, 04:47:54 AM
she is a foreign born physician, so to her, it was probably a totally appropriate comment, but yeah, not so much  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 19, 2012, 01:26:50 PM
Today's rant:

Last Monday I weighed 1x3.  I was happy, because I'd like to be 8 pounds less than that by the end of December and that seemed realistic. 

After a week of eating right and exercising 1.5 hours per day, by Friday I weighed 1x5.  That's right, instead of losing, I gained 2 pounds.  Water, I explained to myself and vowed not to stress about it.

I had a couple of brownies and handful of munchkins this weekend, but otherwise I ate pretty well and stayed active.

This morning?  1x8.  5 pounds more than the Monday before, and +3 from the DAY before.

Now I need to lose 13 before the end of December, which seems entirely unrealistic. 

Trying very hard not to hate. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 19, 2012, 01:37:51 PM
Oh, that sucks, Mini! Keep doing what you're doing, though - because it sounds like you're doing everything right. It has to come off eventually. You're drinking enough water, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 19, 2012, 01:59:35 PM
Oh, that sucks, Mini! Keep doing what you're doing, though - because it sounds like you're doing everything right. It has to come off eventually. You're drinking enough water, right?

Yeah, and peeing like crazy, so I'm not retaining water.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 19, 2012, 02:03:33 PM
Sometimes I feel like it takes my body a week or longer to process actual weight gain (and definitely loss!) because when I think I've had a killer week, a lot of times I won't see the loss I expect. Or vice-versa - if I have blown it, I don't see that gain right away. I'm not sure what the deal is, but I never really see the day-to-day correspondence of what I have done diet & exercise-wise to how my weight goes. So I just go with it and focus on the big picture.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 19, 2012, 03:13:19 PM
What cgraz said. My body seems like it's always running a couple of weeks behind.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on November 19, 2012, 04:00:36 PM
I am 5'8", can't be THAT noticeable  :sigh:

I'm 5'8" and 10 lbs is a couple of sizes different.  But most people don't actually notice.  Just me.

Your patient is an asshat.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 19, 2012, 04:37:39 PM
I'm 5'8" and 10 lbs is a couple of sizes different.  But most people don't actually notice.  Just me.

Your patient is an asshat.

Seriously? I am 5'3" and it takes me at least 10 lbs to change one size, if not more. I really didn't switch anything in my wardrobe until I was about 15 lbs into the diet.
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Post by: rocketgirl on November 19, 2012, 05:18:52 PM
Seriously? I am 5'3" and it takes me at least 10 lbs to change one size, if not more. I really didn't switch anything in my wardrobe until I was about 15 lbs into the diet.

Yes.  I've lost about 15 lbs and gone from 8/10 to 2/4.   Some of that is size creep, but not all of it.  I gain in my waist, butt, and upper thighs, so it doesn't take a big change for my pants to not fit.  One reason that I don't wear pants that frequently.  Skirts and dresses are much more forgiving of a couple of lbs one way or the other. 

Size creep is the number one reason that I'm sure I want to even get back down to my original weight; I won't be able to buy anything small enough.  The number two reason is that I don't want to lose any more boob because then I won't be able to buy bras that fit.  (Really.  Even when I was an AA, I need bras cut like a B, but just not sticking out so far; they don't cut AA bras that way.  Or A bras.  So the  underwire was always digging someplace it didn't belong and the cups were too close together.)  I'd have to be way more active to do that anyway.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 19, 2012, 06:05:15 PM
mini- story of my life  :hug:

10lbs is not really a size change on me, closer to 15 is.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 20, 2012, 09:33:26 AM
It depends on the sizes, and of course sizes are crazy. I have clothes that run in sizes from 6 to 10 that all fit about the same.

1x5 today.  No hope for getting back to 1x3 anytime soon with Thanksgiving and my birthday this week.  Sigh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 20, 2012, 09:37:15 AM
I'm not doing great, not doing horrible either. The holiday eating thing has kind of derailed me and I find myself using excercise as an excuse to "cheat" too often. Overall, my meals are pretty decent with probably a little more crap than necessary. Back on the straight and narrow starting monday. Not that I'll go crazy between now and then, but the disrupted schedule this week is kind of tough.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 20, 2012, 10:27:10 AM
I'm holding steady here. Considering, that's a good thing. Thanksgiving will likely derail me a bit, but whatever. I need to start getting up and walking in the mornings.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 20, 2012, 11:06:04 AM
Last Monday I weighed 1x3.  I was happy, because I'd like to be 8 pounds less than that by the end of December and that seemed realistic. 

I'm going to be totally honest and tell you that I think 8 by the end of December could actually be a pretty significant stretch. I mean, you can generally expect to lose 1-2lbs, on average, per week. So, 8lbs by the end of December requires that you lose the maximum each week. When you add into that that you've been dieting for a while and lost quite a bit already, losing in the upper end of the spectrum, continuously, for a month seems like it could be a recipe for frusteration and disapointment as your body does what our bodies do and gains a bit, loses a chunk, stays the same, loses a little more, gains a few, etc, etc. I would suggest that a goal of 4-5lbs would probably be more inline, although that could even be tough given the holidays, etc.

I don't at all mean this to be discouraging, I just wonder if you're setting yourself up for a lot of self flagellation based on a goal that is really a pretty decent reach.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 20, 2012, 11:35:59 AM
Regarding sizes, the smaller you are, the fewer pounds between sizes (from my experience).  When I went from a 22 to a 20, it was over 20 lbs.  Slightly less as I got down to a 14/16.  But not much.  I suspect that were I ever to get below a 14 and could keep losing, that number of pounds needed to get in the next size would be even smaller.  But I'll probably never know. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 21, 2012, 10:40:22 AM
I'm going to be totally honest and tell you that I think 8 by the end of December could actually be a pretty significant stretch. I mean, you can generally expect to lose 1-2lbs, on average, per week. So, 8lbs by the end of December requires that you lose the maximum each week. When you add into that that you've been dieting for a while and lost quite a bit already, losing in the upper end of the spectrum, continuously, for a month seems like it could be a recipe for frusteration and disapointment as your body does what our bodies do and gains a bit, loses a chunk, stays the same, loses a little more, gains a few, etc, etc. I would suggest that a goal of 4-5lbs would probably be more inline, although that could even be tough given the holidays, etc.

I don't at all mean this to be discouraging, I just wonder if you're setting yourself up for a lot of self flagellation based on a goal that is really a pretty decent reach.

Yahbut from last monday it was 6 weeks to the end of December.  Plenty of time to lose 8 pounds at 1-2 pounds per week. 

I'm back at 1x3 this morning, for no good reason.  I'm amending my December goal to 1x0, which I hoped to reach by the end of November. 

Courtney, yes sizes do work that way.  In plus sizes, a size is 2 inches bigger/smaller.  In misses sizes, it's one inch.  So to go from a 20 to an 18 is about 20 pounds, to go from a 8 to a 6 is closer to 10 pounds.   Noting of course that sizes vary tremendously, so I have some 8s that are looser than 6s, etc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 21, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
Yahbut from last monday it was 6 weeks to the end of December.  Plenty of time to lose 8 pounds at 1-2 pounds per week. 

I'm back at 1x3 this morning, for no good reason.  I'm amending my December goal to 1x0, which I hoped to reach by the end of November. 

Courtney, yes sizes do work that way.  In plus sizes, a size is 2 inches bigger/smaller.  In misses sizes, it's one inch.  So to go from a 20 to an 18 is about 20 pounds, to go from a 8 to a 6 is closer to 10 pounds.   Noting of course that sizes vary tremendously, so I have some 8s that are looser than 6s, etc.

That makes sense...  I mean, I guess it does, considering how weird women's sizing is in general.  :D

I'm feeling more hopeful now that my doctor has identified a thyroid problem, so hopefully when we get this under control, I will be able to see a difference in my body based on what I'm eating.  Right now it seems like regardless of what I eat (mostly crap vs mostly real food) I stay the same or gain slightly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 21, 2012, 03:29:59 PM
They did identify something? That's good! What did they find? (not that you have to tell us, of course, I'm just nosy.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on November 23, 2012, 10:52:51 AM
I hope everyone had a great holiday!

So I went our dress shipping on wed and almost ended up in tears. Which do I look like a bad male cross dresser in absolutely everything? It is so frustrating...I just want to look feminine and sexy but I am shaped like a fotball player guy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 23, 2012, 11:45:08 AM
Sorry, MM.  Some shopping trips are like that.  I keep telling myself it's not me, it's the clothes that aren't right, but I still end up feeling lumpy and unattractive.  Don't get discouraged.  Maybe get some style advice from a personal shopper?

I tried to keep things under control yesterday, but still am hearing my body say "hey, you ate a lot yesterday, why not keep eating?" I'm eating an apple right now to keep from going overboard at lunch.
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Post by: cgraz on November 23, 2012, 12:10:03 PM
Sorry MM. I know the feeling - having a body that doesn't work with current style trends is frustrating.

Woke up this morning and weighed in - between Thanksgiving and the wine tasting we went to last Saturday, I gained about a pound or so. I really think any Thanksgiving gain will show up in the next week, but I will try to eat well and exercise a lot, so I can minimize that. Now it's about damage control in between eating/drinking occasions from now until Christmas. We have a holiday party to go to December 1, and there will be many vodka tonics consumed then, so I need to be realistic about where I'm at and where I could be after the holidays.

I ate a lot yesterday but didn't go crazy, still, I felt really uncomfortably full after dinner and even into the night. I think my body is just not used to such a heavy meal! And so much grazing...on cheese and salami. Mmm. I gave away a good portion of leftovers to MIL, but still have a lot of food in the house. I don't even know how to track most of this stuff in terms of WW points, unless I enter every recipe and figure it out.

Meanwhile, I had a sliver of apple pie for breakfast. I didn't give any of that to MIL, and I probably should have!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 23, 2012, 02:39:54 PM
MM- hugs! This is why i never ever go shopping :(  i find it depressing. When i was at my prepreg race weight, i could just walk into a store and everything looked awesome. Yeah, i miss those days.

Thanksgiving, well, it was ok food wise. I had two brownies for dessert and my dinner consisted of heavily dressed salad and green bean casserole and some veggies and dip and one roll. Could have been worse, could have been better, but butter would have meant starving.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 24, 2012, 09:09:56 PM
Ugh. I have been off the workout train for a few days and then I re-sprained my ankle last night walking down the steps. It's a little sore, and I also have a headache, so one more day of not running for me.  :o

I am, however, filling the freezer with goodness. I'm in the process of making braised cabbage, beans with sage and rosemary, baked beans, tomato barley soup, crackers, and apple sauce. I think that's it. All into the freezer in individual portions for easy access. Also going to chop a bunch of romaine + spinach for easy salads. Oh, and precooked farro for breakfast and I bought a bag of grapefruits at costco to peel and segment also.

I still have a couple of servings of black bean soup and some chickpeas masala and an indian eggplant dish in the to eat too.

Fridge stocked with salad fixins. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on November 25, 2012, 12:17:28 AM
No weight gain for me over Thanksgiving weekend...I ate reasonably on Thursday, but then got a stomach bug and spent all day yesterday puking.  Feeling better today, but I still haven't eaten much.  Blah.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 25, 2012, 07:04:09 AM
i weighed yesterday and was only up a pound or so. i am just trying to do my best and with the new year kick it into high gear again. my workouts have been hard to get in, DD starts her new school Monday, so once we are in our new routine, i should be able to get back into it, though it appears i will have to run at 5am Wed and Fri mornings.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on November 25, 2012, 08:35:19 AM
oh no, RA!  I'm so sorry about your ankle.  And I enjoy seeing your runs on endomondo; I guess I won't be able to give you "pep talks" for a bit?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 25, 2012, 05:00:20 PM
Hopped on the scale this afternoon. Ho.ly.Shit.  :o
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Post by: merigayle on November 25, 2012, 05:35:38 PM
Hopped on the scale this afternoon. Ho.ly.Shit.  :o
:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 25, 2012, 06:29:17 PM
I am avoiding my scale like the plague! I figure next Friday will be the bad one - I weighed in the day after Thanksgiving but I don't think the damage had been metabolized yet!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 25, 2012, 08:06:08 PM
Eh, I kind of expected it after Thanksgiving, leftovers, eating cheeseburgers 2 meals in a row (thanks, Dad), spaghetti and meatballs last night, and then migas this morning. I haven't had a stretch like that in a long damn time. The only thing missing was the wine and margaritas.

It's supposed to be 60 tomorrow morning at 5. I'm going for a walk.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 25, 2012, 11:35:14 PM
oh no, RA!  I'm so sorry about your ankle.  And I enjoy seeing your runs on endomondo; I guess I won't be able to give you "pep talks" for a bit?

It's not bad. I just tweaked it a bit. I'm hoping to run tomorrow. It is a little sore, but I think it will be ok. we'll see!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 26, 2012, 09:37:23 AM
Debba, do you follow hungry girl at all? I know you are off of WW but still trying to eat healthily. I like HG, but never end up making their stuff, for some reason. Anyway, I was browsing there last night and thought of you- they usually include the points plus value of their recipes.

So the diet I follow has a couple of recipes that feature corn bran... something I have to order online in a 5lb quantity. PITA,so I never did. But, this time around, I decided to order it and try and out some of the recipes that use it.

One of them is her answer to hot cereal. I guess there has been at least one study that has demonstrated that within an hour of eating oatmeal, at least some people end up hypoglycemic- which, of course, kick starts the hunger cycle. Her quick fix is to just add some wheat bran to the mix, which really seems to do the trick, at least for me.

But, she also has a longer cooking option that involves farro (which has a good amount of protein and fiber) and corn bran. Then I've been topping it off with her stewed prune recpie, which I also hadn't tried because... yuck. But, the farro cereal and the stewed prunes make a nice, satisfying, warm, filling breakfast at about 200 calories. It does take a little time to prep, but it's mostly just time over the stove so I make it along with dinner or my sunday night prep and it's not a big deal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 26, 2012, 11:27:08 AM
what is the difference between corn bran and corn meal?

Hungry girl is great, but for me, she uses too much prepared foods and artificial sweeteners for my tastes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 26, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Thanks for the tip, RA - I'll check it out. The vast, vast majority of our recipes come from Cooking Light. I adore that magazine. The scale was back down a bit this morning - to a manageable, though not great, level. I'll take it for now. Birthday cake on Saturday (and leftovers on Sunday!) coming up this weekend. And no, I do not give away large portions of cake after Reid's birthday. The cake from the bakery we use is just too damn good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 26, 2012, 11:51:40 AM
So, can I bitch a bit about my SIL?  I'm gluten free, and have been now since April.  I don't expect her to know much about it, or anything like that.  But she tells me, all know it all like, "Oh, there's only 2 tbsp of flour in this recipe, and it's really spread out, so you can eat it."  Um, no.  No, I cannot.  Don't act like you know, when you don't.  Ask about it, sure.  Or just tell me what's in it, fine.  But don't say that and then get butt hurt when I choose to eat something else.   :argh:

I'm sick after spending the weeekend cooped up in a smoke filled house.  Super. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 26, 2012, 12:06:56 PM
That sucks, Courtney. :(
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Post by: Courtney on November 26, 2012, 12:13:17 PM
That sucks, Courtney. :(

It's not too bad, just a head cold.  But jeez.  It happens like clockwork after a weekend there.  MISERABLE. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 26, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
I meant that all of it sucked - from the "it only has a tiny bit of flour" thing, to the smoke-filled house, which would knock me on my ass for days. That's just no fun.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 26, 2012, 12:41:31 PM
Yeah, that is right up there with the crazy stuff people do to vegetarians. Just a little bit of flour all spread out. Good grief. (Although I do use that same justification when addressing how healthful a dish is that contains a stick of butter..."but it's a stick in the whole recipe, and there are at least a dozen servings, so you're really only getting one pat of butter in what you ate!")

Now I am trying to handle the leftovers responsibly. I made pot pie, and skinnied up the recipe a wee bit by making it with lowfat milk instead of heavy cream, but it still has a buttery crust, etc. So having just one portion will be key, instead of the seconds I usually have because I love it so much.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 26, 2012, 12:41:58 PM
what is the difference between corn bran and corn meal?
Totally different products. Kind of like the different between flour and wheat bran. Corn bran is really just a very low calorie way to get additional fiber in your diet and that is pretty central to this way of eating.

Here is a little comparison chart of different kinds of bran- I use oat, corn, and wheat- although very differently. http://healthy-living.org/html/bran_comparison.html (http://healthy-living.org/html/bran_comparison.html) I use oat bran sparingly because it's pretty high in calories and low in fiber (though high in protein). Corn bran is moderate calories, very high fiber but low in protein. Wheat is lowest in calories, high protein, and moderately high in fiber. So, farro + corn bran combines the good properties of wheat bran and corn bran and gets a nice boost of additional protien from skim milk.

She has a recipe for crackers that I want to try (I don't have a rolling pin though, so need to sort that out) and also a recipe for cookies.

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Hungry girl is great, but for me, she uses too much prepared foods and artificial sweeteners for my tastes.

 I don't  get the sense that debba could exist on brown rice and steamed veggies though. :P I was thinking that HG might offer debba some ways to do lower points versions of familiar foods.

Here's a good example of the kind of thing she does. I might chose to use a little bit of real sugar instead of the splenda, myself. http://www.hungry-girl.com/chew/show/2225 (http://www.hungry-girl.com/chew/show/2225)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 26, 2012, 01:01:45 PM
thanks for the explanation.

MIL is a smoker and why we have only been ONCE with DD to see her and it was in summer, with all the windows open. It was barely tolerable. The last time we went (i dunno 8 years ago? 7?) I got so sick from two days there i vowed to never go back.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 26, 2012, 01:09:45 PM
Yeah, that is right up there with the crazy stuff people do to vegetarians.

I was thinking the same thing. I do understand how someone who doesn't really understand the gluten free thing might thing that a little bit of flour in an entire recipe might not be a big deal, sort of along the lines of a little bit of butter in a whole recipe isn't a big deal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 26, 2012, 01:39:53 PM
I was thinking the same thing. I do understand how someone who doesn't really understand the gluten free thing might thing that a little bit of flour in an entire recipe might not be a big deal, sort of along the lines of a little bit of butter in a whole recipe isn't a big deal.

Yeah, that makes sense...  It probably pushed my buttons because she was telling me, in no uncertain terms that I could and should, eat her soup.  She likes to do that.  Had it not had flour in it, I still wouldn't have wanted to eat it because it was some sort of ham, rice, potato, and bean soup, which is GROSS IMHO.  :D  When it comes to food, we don't share a lot of tastes.  This is not news, and it was one of her controlling little tricks.  She got offended when DH didn't finish his bowl of her soup (he didn't like it).  In the past, she's gotten offended when I don't eat her stuff, because it is something I don't like.  I don't force her to eat shit she doesn't like, or even expect it!  I don't know why it can't go both ways. 

They have given me shit about my eating habits for about 11 years, ever since I lost weight and would every once in a while cook my own veggie burger instead of a real burger, or make something quasi healthy for a holiday meal.  It's ANNOYING.  I'm not a vegetarian (not that there is anything wrong with that to me, but they sure act like it's the weirdest thing ever, and act like since I sometimes don't eat something meaty, I must be a vegetarian  ;;}).  They all like these weird (to me) fruit/jello/whipped cream salads, and there were literally THREE of them on the table this weekend at dinner.  I opted for the safe foods I knew I could eat for sure (ham, mashed potatoes with some butter, and corn).  I hadn't checked the ingredients on jello or pudding to know if they add gluten (it's added to the weirdes stuff, I swear) so I opted to be safe, and I know I probably offended them.  But I'm not going to make myself sick just to be nice.  I even made breakfast both mornings for everyone.  The second morning was a monkey bread deal that I couldn't eat, but I made it anyway.  I try not to be a total PITA with this whole GF thing, and I think I'm polite about it, and never make a big deal out of it.  Yet, I don't think it came across that way. 

And yeah, the smoke thing is bad.  My FIL and BIL smoke constantly, in the house.  It's horrible.  I have to stop taking things into the house, becuse the smoke smell is there forever in stuff like shoes.  I wash everything else as soon as I get home.  Gross.

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Post by: Run Amok on November 26, 2012, 01:45:23 PM
Oh yeah, I totally get it. People are getting better about the vegetarian thing... but it is frequently way more of a big deal than it should be, which is annoying. I only bring up the veg thing because it sounds like you're encountering a lot of the same push back we get.
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Post by: Courtney on November 26, 2012, 02:04:43 PM
Totally. 

And it's a huge pet peeve of mine when people make unsolicited commentary on what someone is eating.  STFU and MYOB!!  :D 

I think I'm cranky right now because I'm hungry :D
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Post by: debbatx on November 26, 2012, 02:22:58 PM
No, debba cannot subsist on brown rice and steamed veggies. :) That orange chicken recipe looks really good, though. I really do love Cooking Light. Lots of good stuff in there, and it all has a ton of flavor. To me, a lot of the WW recipes were always really bland, but CL does a great job with flavor.

We're doing beef and broccoli stir-fry tonight. Mmmmmm.
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Post by: cgraz on November 26, 2012, 02:38:34 PM
I have definitely made some "keepers" from Cooking Light over the years.

This Parmesan Chicken & Rice is one good one, lots of flavor and I don't even include the mushrooms: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/parmesan-chicken-rice-10000000642342/ (http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/parmesan-chicken-rice-10000000642342/) I make it with brown rice, too. It's great with a simple side of steamed green beans.

And their Chili Mac is a good basic dinner, all in 1 pot, which I am a big fan of: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/chili-mac-10000000222455/ (http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/chili-mac-10000000222455/) Nothing else needed to go with it - it's loaded with veggies and very satisfying.
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Post by: debbatx on November 26, 2012, 02:41:20 PM
Thanks!
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Post by: merigayle on November 26, 2012, 02:42:27 PM
i have always been happy with Cooking Light.
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Post by: Run Amok on November 26, 2012, 02:50:31 PM
I think I'm cranky right now because I'm hungry :D

We call that "hangry" 'round these parts. It's a good name for it, because it's true. Also, it always makes us laugh, which seems to help.
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Post by: Courtney on November 26, 2012, 03:15:41 PM
We call that "hangry" 'round these parts. It's a good name for it, because it's true. Also, it always makes us laugh, which seems to help.

:D

I'm far less cranky right now, having eaten lunch! 
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Post by: rocketgirl on November 26, 2012, 03:42:19 PM
That Parmesan Chicken and Rice thing is da bomb!  (I DO use the mushrooms.  Love them!)  I had no idea it was from Cooking Light though.  I got it from ya'll.  I usually serve with a side of spinach or asparagus, but those are kind of my favorite green vegetables.
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Post by: debbatx on November 26, 2012, 03:45:54 PM
I'm definitely going to have to check that out then. :) I tend to cook primarily out of their Quick and Easy recipes, but we venture out into more complicated or time-consuming recipes on weekends. I love their stuff.
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Post by: merigayle on November 26, 2012, 07:21:43 PM
you wanna buy a whole set of Cooking Light annuals? :D Mine are up for sale! LOL.
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Post by: debbatx on November 26, 2012, 08:39:46 PM
LOL! No, thanks. I still have an embarrassing number of issues. :)
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Post by: triciaflower on November 26, 2012, 10:30:19 PM
I just signed up for a half.  :yikes:
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Post by: Courtney on November 26, 2012, 11:24:50 PM
High five!
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Post by: Run Amok on November 27, 2012, 12:28:21 AM
When is it TF? I'm considering signing up for one in march. There is a super early bird special through the first for $55... and I'm thinking of doing it. But, march seems so far away...
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 27, 2012, 05:54:49 AM
When is it TF? I'm considering signing up for one in march. There is a super early bird special through the first for $55... and I'm thinking of doing it. But, march seems so far away...

Oh trust me.. it's not when you are training for a half.. go for it!!!
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Post by: cgraz on November 27, 2012, 06:52:17 AM
I just signed up for a half.  :yikes:

Woo hoo! I am still debating signing up for one too! I think I can do it but it isn't until May, so I am kind of wavering. I predict that my sister and mr. cgraz will work the peer pressure over Christmas when we're all together and I will sign up then. I made this deal with my sister that if she tried a tri, I would do a half - so now that she is seriously entertaining doing the Danskin with me, I am stuck making good on my word!
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Post by: merigayle on November 27, 2012, 07:17:16 AM
wtg Tricia!
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Post by: debbatx on November 27, 2012, 10:58:08 AM
Awesome, tricia! Which one?
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Post by: Run Amok on November 27, 2012, 11:04:17 AM
Oh trust me.. it's not when you are training for a half.. go for it!!!

 :skep:
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Post by: Run Amok on November 27, 2012, 11:05:42 AM
Ok, so I'm considering joining a new gym. They do a lot of classes I like and are really reasonable- $12/drop in or $60/month. It's about 3 miles from my house so I'm kind of thinking run there, do the class... and work up to running home. Which probabyl means bussing home at least at first. Am I nuts? Parking is kind of a nightmare there- you have to park a few blocks away anyway.
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Post by: debbatx on November 27, 2012, 12:22:45 PM
I don't think that's totally nuts, as long as the bus part works and it's not a skeevy area or you'd be running roads that would be difficult to cross or something. I think it's a great idea, actually. I could, in theory, walk to our gym, but I'd probably get run over.
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Post by: Run Amok on November 27, 2012, 12:49:16 PM
No, it's actually a fairly pleasant run, though it's up hill most of the way there. The bus route is pretty simple on well-served lines- though I do have to switch about halfway through. I could always ride the one bus for part of the way home and run the rest of the way (all a nice gentle slope downhill). Maybe I'll give it a try tonight.
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Post by: onawhim on November 27, 2012, 12:55:18 PM
How about biking?  I do not think it is crazy.  I run to the pool and walk to yoga.   
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Post by: debbatx on November 27, 2012, 01:26:21 PM
Good luck! I'd love to walk to the gym, but the threat of getting run over is too real - I'd have to cross an extremely busy 6-lane road.
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Post by: Run Amok on November 27, 2012, 02:12:35 PM
How about biking?  I do not think it is crazy.  I run to the pool and walk to yoga.   

That's a great idea. I should pick up my bike. I've thought about biking to work. It's an easy enough to commute (but then there is the being stinky at work all day problem...)
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Post by: merigayle on November 27, 2012, 02:51:36 PM
baby wipe baths!!!

snow day today. totally foiled all plans of exercise, outside of running a sled up and down the hill 100 times.
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Post by: debbatx on November 27, 2012, 03:07:21 PM
Sled hill training sounds pretty good. Also sounds like another reason for me to be grateful that I live in Texas.
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Post by: merigayle on November 27, 2012, 03:35:12 PM
Sled hill training sounds pretty good. Also sounds like another reason for me to be grateful that I live in Texas.
we were not even supposed to get this!!! we were supposed to get FLURRIES and rain. I guess it rained at my office, but i am 20 miles west and probably 5 degrees cooler. We probably got 5 inches!!! Totally unexpected. They called DD's school cancelled after we left this morning, because it went from rain to snow to really dangerous really quickly. I got there to an empty parking lot  :grr: but my friend lives inbetween school and our house, so we went there and played for 3 hours!
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Post by: debbatx on November 27, 2012, 05:35:07 PM
Yeah, that does NOT sound fun to me.
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Post by: diablita on November 27, 2012, 08:29:51 PM
it sounds like fun to me!  :D
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Post by: diablita on November 27, 2012, 08:34:59 PM
RA, that gym sounds great.  You should totally try it.  I just found out there's a good crossfit gym near my house where I could work out on lunch break but I'm so prone to overuse injuries that I'm worried I'll kill myself there.

So I just registered for this phenomenal race in January run on one of the most beautiful courses in the country.  They have an 8K, 30K and 50K.  I registered for the 8K yesterday.  And today the JCC got in touch to tell me that they nominated me for the Board of Directors, want me on the board, and the first meeting is that same day later in the afternoon.  I suppose I could still go run the race (it's like 90 minutes away) and then come back and go to the meeting.  But we were planning on getting a cabin near the course for the weekend and now that won't work.  oh well.

Here are a couple of pics:
It's like fingers of land surrounded by Lake Fontana. 

(http://main.nc.us/graham/graphics/tsalimap.gif)

And the views look kind of like this.  Western NC is called "The Land of Sky" and this is why.  It's often mistier:

(http://buffal0b1ll.com/bikes/images06/tsali1.jpg)
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Post by: diablita on November 27, 2012, 08:36:25 PM
And since I'm feeling chatty: tomorrow is my excision.  Turns out the melanoma is not in-situ, it's Stage 1 invasive.  So I'm having the excision done tomorrow and then my friend (a plastic surgeon) will do a skin graft next Tuesday to close it up provided the pathology shows clean margins.  I could use a bit of vibing.
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Post by: onawhim on November 27, 2012, 09:06:25 PM
You got it  :fsm:
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Post by: teetime on November 27, 2012, 10:02:11 PM
And since I'm feeling chatty: tomorrow is my excision.  Turns out the melanoma is not in-situ, it's Stage 1 invasive.  So I'm having the excision done tomorrow and then my friend (a plastic surgeon) will do a skin graft next Tuesday to close it up provided the pathology shows clean margins.  I could use a bit of vibing.

Lots and lots of them coming your way!!
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Post by: diablita on November 27, 2012, 10:18:23 PM
thanks ladies  :heartbeat:
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Post by: Courtney on November 27, 2012, 11:20:14 PM
VIBES totally on the way!!
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Post by: triciaflower on November 28, 2012, 12:09:08 AM
I'm doing the Alamo 13.1. on March 24th. It's the second year and it looks like a smallish race. I looked at the times and I wouldn't be DFL, so that's plus. Seems like a nice chunk of walkers will be behind me, hopefully.

I think if I had not gone to see friends running the Rock N Roll, I might not have given it a second thought. But seeing all the runners made me itchy to get out there again. I've been run/walking the last few weeks to get back into the swing of things. So I have a few more weeks of that before I start my full-on training.  :runner:

I gained about 5 pounds over the last week. Not fun. :( Most likely just salt bloat. But still!
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Post by: triciaflower on November 28, 2012, 12:10:54 AM
And since I'm feeling chatty: tomorrow is my excision.  Turns out the melanoma is not in-situ, it's Stage 1 invasive.  So I'm having the excision done tomorrow and then my friend (a plastic surgeon) will do a skin graft next Tuesday to close it up provided the pathology shows clean margins.  I could use a bit of vibing.

Sending you good thoughts and vibes that everything will go well for you.  :hug:
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Post by: triciaflower on November 28, 2012, 12:21:10 AM
Sorry- I'm kind of catching up on the last few pages of posts.  :P

Courtney.. could you stay in a hotel next time to avoid the whole smoke-filled house? I would not be able to handle that. So inconsiderate of guests. And I HATE when people comment on what I'm eating or not eating. Leave me alone FFS!

Debba..Questions about your beef with broccoli: What cut of meat do you use? Mine is always tough. Do you marinate it first?
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Post by: cgraz on November 28, 2012, 06:09:51 AM
Big vibes to you diablita, hope it all goes well.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 28, 2012, 06:36:28 AM
And since I'm feeling chatty: tomorrow is my excision.  Turns out the melanoma is not in-situ, it's Stage 1 invasive.  So I'm having the excision done tomorrow and then my friend (a plastic surgeon) will do a skin graft next Tuesday to close it up provided the pathology shows clean margins.  I could use a bit of vibing.
Vibes from here
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Post by: Ice Cream on November 28, 2012, 07:28:55 AM
And since I'm feeling chatty: tomorrow is my excision.  Turns out the melanoma is not in-situ, it's Stage 1 invasive.  So I'm having the excision done tomorrow and then my friend (a plastic surgeon) will do a skin graft next Tuesday to close it up provided the pathology shows clean margins.  I could use a bit of vibing.
Good luck!
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Post by: merigayle on November 28, 2012, 07:50:07 AM
 :fingers: and good vibes D!

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Post by: fancypants on November 28, 2012, 09:37:03 AM
And since I'm feeling chatty: tomorrow is my excision.  Turns out the melanoma is not in-situ, it's Stage 1 invasive.  So I'm having the excision done tomorrow and then my friend (a plastic surgeon) will do a skin graft next Tuesday to close it up provided the pathology shows clean margins.  I could use a bit of vibing.
Thinking of you today and sending all the awesome vibes I have!!!!!

I popped in here because I need to get on board with some daily motivation, and I'm glad I did!
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Post by: Courtney on November 28, 2012, 10:30:57 AM
Sorry- I'm kind of catching up on the last few pages of posts.  :P

Courtney.. could you stay in a hotel next time to avoid the whole smoke-filled house? I would not be able to handle that. So inconsiderate of guests. And I HATE when people comment on what I'm eating or not eating. Leave me alone FFS!

Debba..Questions about your beef with broccoli: What cut of meat do you use? Mine is always tough. Do you marinate it first?


Staying in a hotel would result in WW3 with the in-laws.  :D 
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Post by: MiniDriver on November 28, 2012, 10:49:11 AM
And since I'm feeling chatty: tomorrow is my excision.  Turns out the melanoma is not in-situ, it's Stage 1 invasive.  So I'm having the excision done tomorrow and then my friend (a plastic surgeon) will do a skin graft next Tuesday to close it up provided the pathology shows clean margins.  I could use a bit of vibing.

VIBING!!!
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Post by: diablita on November 28, 2012, 11:24:01 AM
thanks for all the vibes.  excision completed.  It was a bit weird when they turned on the exhaust just before the procedure and I realized that it was for the cautery and basically the same as the hood over my range.
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Post by: debbatx on November 28, 2012, 11:39:07 AM
Just catching up - glad the excision went well and vibes for clean margins!!

And tricia, we use boneless sirloin or flank steak. I think the key is getting pretty small bits in there so they cook quickly and evenly. Last time it worked great. :)
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Post by: Run Amok on November 28, 2012, 12:05:19 PM
Still keeping my fingers crossed, Di. Hoping, hoping, hoping for clean margins!

Welcome blue! We chat a bit about everything here so hop right in. =)

10 miles in the past two days, feels great. A little sore today. Planning to run to the gym tonight and do a core class then run or bus home. We'll see. It's uphill all the way there and a gentle slope all the home. :)

I have been feeling really good about my eating this week. Eating mostly on plan. Seem to be skipping my afternoon snack, but picking up those calories at dinner. Last night dinner was around 460 calories, so a little more than plan, but not terrible. I was a little hungry before bed, but not enough to do anything about it.  :P I am really glad that I took 8 months, or so, to really focus on calories in before calories out. In the past trying to diet AND excercise all at once was just too much. But fixing the diet first and losing a bunch of weight has made it so much easier to get back into running without being starving all the time.

I was thinking, last night, how sucky it is to be female sometimes. I am either nearly powerless to resist cravings, or not craving anything at all, totally depending on where I'm at in my cycle and it just seems like such an injustice. But, it is what it is, as they say.

My counselor has convinced me that group sessions could be helpful to me. I don't actually know if I can manage talking about this with other people. It seems an impossibility. But I am going to try. First session is tomorrow evening. So, a few extra miles leading up to that couldn't hurt. 

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Post by: diablita on November 28, 2012, 12:33:21 PM
I've been seeing nice runs on endomondo, RA!  We should start our own little group 'challenge' just to track our runs.  It's fun to catch your friends while they're out and send pep talks.  Have you ever gotten one before?  Hilarious!

Anyone else in this group on endomondo besides us and debba?  Does RioG post in this group (she is)? 

I can just see meri in the news feed: 
meri is running blah blah blah
meri is still running blah blah blah
meri won't stop running blah blah blah
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Post by: Run Amok on November 28, 2012, 12:39:29 PM
Tim is, also natasha... I didn't know debba was on there!
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Post by: merigayle on November 28, 2012, 12:54:25 PM
nah my running has been really sporadic lately. hoping once the new year rolls around, with DD's school changes and everything else, i can get back into a good rhythm again.
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Post by: rocketgirl on November 28, 2012, 01:28:49 PM
thanks for all the vibes.  excision completed.  It was a bit weird when they turned on the exhaust just before the procedure and I realized that it was for the cautery and basically the same as the hood over my range.

Vibes for clean margins and the prettiest skin graft ever!
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on November 28, 2012, 01:59:43 PM
RA- I love running to the gym and taking a class, but my gym is just about 1.25 mi from my house. It takes me soooo long to warm up to the point that exercise is enjoyable, that if I drive and take the class I'm miserable most of the time.
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Post by: Run Amok on November 28, 2012, 03:25:00 PM
I have that problem too. It takes me at LEAST 2 miles to stop grumbling about being out there.
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Post by: debbatx on November 28, 2012, 04:34:21 PM
Tim is, also natasha... I didn't know debba was on there!

I didn't know I was, either! :D I need to check it out, though. I want to get back to walking, soon. I've been sleeping like crap lately, though, which makes it hard to get up at 5.  :grr:
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Post by: diablita on November 28, 2012, 05:22:05 PM
Oops.  I imagined that.  :)


and thanks everyone
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Post by: debbatx on November 28, 2012, 06:13:25 PM
 :D No worries!
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Post by: triciaflower on November 28, 2012, 10:33:04 PM
What is endomondo?

Diablita.. I'm glad everything went alright.
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Post by: Run Amok on November 28, 2012, 10:36:48 PM
It's an app for your phone that tracks your route, pace, time, etc. http://www.endomondo.com/login (http://www.endomondo.com/login)
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Post by: triciaflower on November 28, 2012, 10:44:50 PM
ooooh! New running app! Checking it out now.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 28, 2012, 11:56:38 PM
nah my running has been really sporadic lately. hoping once the new year rolls around, with DD's school changes and everything else, i can get back into a good rhythm again.

Are you running on Sunday?  I have to work Saturday and am going to miss out on Betzwood.
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Post by: merigayle on November 29, 2012, 07:07:00 AM
Are you running on Sunday?  I have to work Saturday and am going to miss out on Betzwood.
sadly no :( Monday will be my long run. I have an art class in the morning and then will prob take DD to Dutch Wonderland's Xmas thing.
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Post by: debbatx on November 29, 2012, 09:37:19 AM
I'm seriously contemplating slipping Reid a sleeping pill or something. He's been waking up at anywhere between 5:15 and 5:45 for the past week.  :luvcoffee: Except I can't drink coffee.  :'( It's also seriously messing with any attempt to exercise. GAH.
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Post by: merigayle on November 29, 2012, 09:40:41 AM
I'm seriously contemplating slipping Reid a sleeping pill or something. He's been waking up at anywhere between 5:15 and 5:45 for the past week.  :luvcoffee: Except I can't drink coffee.  :'( It's also seriously messing with any attempt to exercise. GAH.
:hug:
we gave DD benedryl once for hives and she bounced off the wall, i was secretly hoping for a good nights sleep :D

Anywho, DH got up early (for once!) this morning and woke DD up and then she woke me up  :grr: i am trying to motivate to get on the TM and my reward is i am going shopping before work :D I saw the cutest skirt at target the other day and then maybe to TRU since i got the groupon over the weekend. I have something to return at Sears too. I dunno how much time i will have.

DD is doing AWESOME at her new school. Previously, we had fights EVERY MORNING because she would not get her ass ready and out the door, no matter how early i started getting her ready. Today she got mad at ME because she was antsy to go to her new school!!!!  :bow2: this is the first day the after care lady is picking her up since we had snow day on Tuesday, she seems excited and prepared. My only concern is that she ate none of her lunch yesterday and her teacher said she sat with her and tried her best and got her to take a few bites. different lunch today, so  :fingers:.
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Post by: debbatx on November 29, 2012, 10:29:08 AM
That's great, meri!!!

And yeah, we've given Reid allergy medicine in the past - for actual seasonal allergies - but he's refused to take it lately. I think it helped with the sleep a bit, but even when he took it, he'd still occasionally wake up early. This has been pretty much all week, though. Ugh. Over Thanksgiving break, he slept until 7 every morning.

I just feel like I can't get up to walk if he's right between sleep and awake around that time - I don't want to be the one to wake him up, you know? And then if I managed to sneak out without waking him, if he wakes up later then DH has to deal with it alone, and DH is a grump a lot of the time anyway, and worse when Reid does stuff like this.  :sigh:
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Post by: merigayle on November 29, 2012, 11:07:57 AM
Sounds like my DH  :eyeroll: She gets really annoyed when she wakes up in a bad mood and i am like, wtf? you are about to walk out the door and i am the one tending to her and doing damage control.

I had a shitty ass run. My back seized up right before i got on the TM. Going to shower, pack my lunch and go shopping before work :D I have a late night tonight, so i better pack dinner too.
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Post by: Run Amok on November 29, 2012, 11:16:56 AM
I didn't work out last night. I totally could have but it was raining and I am out of contacts and hate foggy glasses. And I misread the schedule at the gym and didn't like the classses scheduled (not a zumba fan). So... I skipped it. Dinner/eating was on track though.

Today, we'll see. I'm full of dread about this group session thingy I'm going to tonight. I brought running stuff so I can run on the TM (we have a small gym at work) before I leave. We'll see if that happens. I'd like to do SOMETHING today though, since yesterday I didn't do anything.

I totally screwed up the food thing this morning. I was out of pre-made breakfasts and ran out of time to grab cereal or toast or something. I did scrounge and apple and a few almonds at work and so far so good there. I should have brought a bar to snack on though. Lunch I'm covered for. But, group goes until 6:30 which means we won't get home until 7. Don't really want to eat *out* because I'm already doing that friday and saturday evenings. Friday will be pho though, so that's not terrible. But, regardless, don't particularly feel like spending the money or calories to eat out tonight. But, I know we'll both be STARVING by 7pm. hrmph.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 29, 2012, 11:20:29 AM
Good luck, RA - I hope the group session helps! And good job on the food, even with the challenges.

I just realized I'm a dumbass. If Reid wakes up at 5.15, he can get in the stinkin' stroller and go with me. Duh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 29, 2012, 11:28:01 AM
I just realized I'm a dumbass. If Reid wakes up at 5.15, he can get in the stinkin' stroller and go with me. Duh.

There ya go! Although... you are braver than I. Tot in a stroller at 5:15 am is commitment!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 29, 2012, 11:40:00 AM
Eh, that's only if he wakes up. If I can sneak out without him, I'd prefer that.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on November 29, 2012, 01:48:29 PM
Ah, the stroller. I had 7 years of runs with those little feet sticking out in front of me.

I've been doing some much needed housework today. DH is working from home, and we had egg white frittata(s?) for brunch. DD has swim practice every night from 5:30-:7:30. With drive time, etc, that means we can eat at 4:00 or late, and I don't want to do late. Therefore, I've been eating brunch and an early dinner, and then taking some sort of fruit to snack on towards the end of practice.

I was going to go to the gym at 2:00, but I'm pissed at the boxers and boxing for business reasons, so I'm going to get on the treadmill instead. I'm kinda pissy in general.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 29, 2012, 02:28:09 PM
went shopping and that super cute skirt looked cute on the rack, but not on me :( totally bummed. Then i went to the mall to return sneakers i bought DD that were too small (and with no receipt they took them back!!) and the mall smelled soooo good, mrs fields, etc, i got a small TCBY, i was starving to death.
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Post by: MiniDriver on November 29, 2012, 04:48:08 PM
Now that we're almost at the end of November, who's in for -5 in December?  I really need to stay motivated.  I've been doing very well despite a very stressful week, and hit 1x1 today. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 29, 2012, 04:54:23 PM
Can I do "hold steady" December?
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Post by: Run Amok on November 29, 2012, 05:04:43 PM
Seriously annoyed right now. Was going to sneak out a bit early so I could go run. Well, I came in early, so I coudl leave early so I could run. But now I'm outta time. grumble grumble grumble
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 29, 2012, 06:04:40 PM
Now that we're almost at the end of November, who's in for -5 in December?  I really need to stay motivated.  I've been doing very well despite a very stressful week, and hit 1x1 today. 

I'm trying...  I just started my thyroid meds today, so hopefully that will make this somewhat easier.

Debba, I think you asked about that, I don't think I answered (?)...  my NP found that my reverse T3 was high, which mimics hypothroid, which is the symptoms I have.  So I'm hopeful about this.  We'll see.  It's not like I expect magic, but it would be nice to see my body reflect lifestyle changes. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 29, 2012, 06:51:38 PM
Seriously annoyed right now. Was going to sneak out a bit early so I could go run. Well, I came in early, so I coudl leave early so I could run. But now I'm outta time. grumble grumble grumble
this is the story of my life!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on November 29, 2012, 07:57:42 PM
okay I downloaded endomondo. Now what? I like how there are other people's runs on there. I haven't poked around too much yet.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on November 29, 2012, 10:15:14 PM
Tricia, what's your username on endomondo?  I'll friend you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 30, 2012, 07:03:07 AM
Hi blue! Glad you're here. Hope some treadmill time helped you get past feeling generally pissy.

Sounds like I should check out this endomondo? I never would have guessed that's a running app from the name.  :D

I weighed in today and was pleased that a good week has me back where I was before Thanksgiving, so that's a relief. Of course I could potentially repeat the same cycle, since I'm going to a Christmas party on Saturday night where there will be lots and lots of food and drink! But in a weird way, it makes me feel better to know that if I do, and I gain a couple of pounds, then I have the power to get back on track pretty reasonably. I'm within a pound and a half of my goal weight, and that makes me hopeful that once I reach that, it is something I could maintain.

Oh, and last night at yoga, my teacher said I have an "admirable chaturanga" (yoga pushup) and I did a great shoulder stand without the help of the wall - woo hoo! My arms are starting to look a little more defined - one night this week, mr. cgraz touched my arm and went "whoa!" when he felt my tricep. So of course then I flexed for him.  :D It is exciting to feel stronger, but to see some small changes (even if only I really see them) is even better.

It was our last class with that yoga teacher - he is moving back to the city and won't be teaching in NJ any more. We've been taking class with him for about a year, and it has been really neat. I think about where I have been in terms of my relationship with my body over the last year, and it has changed a lot for the better. After the IVF and then the ectopic and surgery, I was not really feeling connected or feeling like I had the power to be strong, feel good, etc. and it showed. Now I feel so much better and I can't think of any other way to describe it but it's as if my body and I are on the same team again. The fertility stuff is still unresolved (just acupuncture and trying, for $$ and insurance reasons - not sure how much longer we will even hope for that), but I don't feel as helpless for some reason. I think the yoga classes have really helped a lot - and now taking control of feeling better about my weight and health have also added to the positive changes.
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Post by: diablita on November 30, 2012, 07:32:39 AM
 :heartbeat: cgraz I'm glad you're feeling so strong, mentally and physically
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Post by: merigayle on November 30, 2012, 07:34:40 AM
 :hug: cgraz. Not sure where in NJ you are, but Dr Check at Cooper rocks and his IVF is pretty inexpensive. I think he is the best doctor around and even though I am in PA, so many of my patients see him. His office is nuts crazy, but he gets results. I have a 48yo going in for retreival tomorrow and she has 4 follicles!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 30, 2012, 09:04:15 AM
Thanks, guys.

That's about 1.5 to 2 hours from me, meri - not sure it would be feasible, but I'll keep Dr. Check in mind. My acupuncturist also recommended someone near me, but right now we are in flux with insurance/finances, because mr. cgraz just lost his job and we also financed a huge and very necessary home repair. So kind of waiting to see what comes next, without flipping out about it too much.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 30, 2012, 09:37:49 AM
Sounds like you're doing great, cgraz - good for you!!
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Post by: merigayle on November 30, 2012, 10:38:37 AM
sorry to hear about his job loss :( never fun. Cooper specializes in difficult cases and high FSH/older women/poor responders. There is also the SHER institute somewhere in NJ that is really good for difficult cases, they specialize in autoimmune issues.

The nuns just dropped off a cookie tray at work  :panic: what to eat first? :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 30, 2012, 10:44:26 AM
Thanks, guys.

That's about 1.5 to 2 hours from me, meri - not sure it would be feasible, but I'll keep Dr. Check in mind. My acupuncturist also recommended someone near me, but right now we are in flux with insurance/finances, because mr. cgraz just lost his job and we also financed a huge and very necessary home repair. So kind of waiting to see what comes next, without flipping out about it too much.

Oof, that's a lot of stuff to deal with!   :fingers:, vibes, etc for you guys that the job stuff looks up shortly and that it all works out!!   :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 30, 2012, 10:56:18 AM
Oof, that's a lot of stuff to deal with!   :fingers:, vibes, etc for you guys that the job stuff looks up shortly and that it all works out!!   :hug:


Thanks, the job thing is a huge stresser, and that just hit the fan this week, so it's hard not to panic, but it's scary.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 30, 2012, 10:58:40 AM
Thanks, the job thing is a huge stresser, and that just hit the fan this week, so it's hard not to panic, but it's scary.

My DH got laid off about 8 years ago, and it was a HUGE stressor for us.  And not panicking is tough.   :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 30, 2012, 12:11:56 PM
So, I went to the group session yesterday. It was honestly one of the most difficult things I've ever done in my life. I was about 30 minutes early and I spent that entire time battling against a panic attack. Someone here taught me the trick to hold your breath as long as you can, so I did that over and over again and that kept me sitting in that seat. When it was time to go in, everyone else seemed so... fine... and chipper, and I just wasn't and that made it even harder. We introduced ourselves, which I could barely do without bursting into tears... and I fought both to keep my composure and also to not get up and leave, for the next 30 minutes or so while the facilitator went over ground rules and curriculum of the group (it is 8 sessions). Then it was time for everyone to share their story. I honestly wasn't sure I could do it and had been dreading this moment for a long time. Surprisingly... I was able to force the words out, and talk about it and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

By the time we were done it was going to be so late so I grabbed dd and we went out to dinner at a dumpling house. I ordered pretty much everything on the menu, knowing it was more than I could eat. DD helped me eat some of what I'd ordered (hers was taking a long time and she was starving) but it was all rice based and lots of soy sauce, etc and we did order dessert. It was fine *once* but I don't want to get into the habit of doing this every session. So, I need to figure out dinner for those nights. Maybe I'll just do a packed lunch kind of thing. We'll see.



But in a weird way, it makes me feel better to know that if I do, and I gain a couple of pounds, then I have the power to get back on track pretty reasonably.

I think this has been really big for me. I don't stress too much about going off the rails for a few days, because I know that it's within my power, and not that difficult to get it back on track. Having an eating plan that you don't dread makes this much easier. My goal is to maintain during the holidays and then work on loosing a few more after the holidays.

Fingers crossed on the job thing. That is so hard!
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Post by: Magic Microbe on November 30, 2012, 12:35:59 PM
Great job RA.....it has got to help to not be keeping it all bottled up inside.

Do you know why you can't talk about it? Does it just feel too personal? Don't be intimidated by the others...they are probably just different personalities. I am a talker so I basically tell my life story to anyone who will listen. Doesn't make me any emotionally healthier than you though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on November 30, 2012, 01:05:47 PM
So, I went to the group session yesterday. It was honestly one of the most difficult things I've ever done in my life. I was about 30 minutes early and I spent that entire time battling against a panic attack. Someone here taught me the trick to hold your breath as long as you can, so I did that over and over again and that kept me sitting in that seat. When it was time to go in, everyone else seemed so... fine... and chipper, and I just wasn't and that made it even harder. We introduced ourselves, which I could barely do without bursting into tears... and I fought both to keep my composure and also to not get up and leave, for the next 30 minutes or so while the facilitator went over ground rules and curriculum of the group (it is 8 sessions). Then it was time for everyone to share their story. I honestly wasn't sure I could do it and had been dreading this moment for a long time. Surprisingly... I was able to force the words out, and talk about it and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

By the time we were done it was going to be so late so I grabbed dd and we went out to dinner at a dumpling house. I ordered pretty much everything on the menu, knowing it was more than I could eat. DD helped me eat some of what I'd ordered (hers was taking a long time and she was starving) but it was all rice based and lots of soy sauce, etc and we did order dessert. It was fine *once* but I don't want to get into the habit of doing this every session. So, I need to figure out dinner for those nights. Maybe I'll just do a packed lunch kind of thing. We'll see.


I think this has been really big for me. I don't stress too much about going off the rails for a few days, because I know that it's within my power, and not that difficult to get it back on track. Having an eating plan that you don't dread makes this much easier. My goal is to maintain during the holidays and then work on loosing a few more after the holidays.

Fingers crossed on the job thing. That is so hard!

I'm glad you went.. some times the things that are the hardest for us to do are the things we need the most too do.  You are brave for facing this head on.
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Post by: Run Amok on November 30, 2012, 01:07:35 PM
Do you know why you can't talk about it? Does it just feel too personal?

Too personal. Too traumatic. Too big and overwhelming. To risky in terms of judgement from others, and probably judgement of myself. 

I am still skeptical that the group will help. But willing to show up for the next 7 weeks. The hardest part is over, I think.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 30, 2012, 01:38:41 PM
Too personal. Too traumatic. Too big and overwhelming. To risky in terms of judgement from others, and probably judgement of myself. 

I am still skeptical that the group will help. But willing to show up for the next 7 weeks. The hardest part is over, I think.
:hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on November 30, 2012, 02:28:11 PM
I think it's awesome that you went, RA. I hope it helps.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: mango on November 30, 2012, 03:22:16 PM
The hardest part is over, I think.

Most definitely.
You have taken a very brave first step.
Best wishes, RA.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on November 30, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
Currently trying to decide whether to hit the tm or go out and run. I hate the treadmill. But it could be pooring by the time I get home,then I won't run. *sigh*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on November 30, 2012, 07:24:16 PM
Too personal. Too traumatic. Too big and overwhelming. To risky in terms of judgement from others, and probably judgement of myself. 

I am still skeptical that the group will help. But willing to show up for the next 7 weeks. The hardest part is over, I think.

That's exactly what everyone fears, RA...   :hug:  In an environment like that, I hope you find what you need to cope/deal/etc.  I'm glad you are giving it a shot. 
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Post by: diablita on November 30, 2012, 08:31:37 PM
BIG hugs for RA and cgraz tonight.    :bouquet:
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on November 30, 2012, 09:45:52 PM
BIG hugs for RA and cgraz tonight.    :bouquet:
No kidding. And RA, the first time is the worst.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on November 30, 2012, 10:02:31 PM
Thanks, guys.

RA, I'm really glad you went to the group, and I hope it becomes something that is even more helpful. Doing the hard work will only help in the long run.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on December 01, 2012, 07:02:25 AM
RA: Good for you!  I could never handle a group; one single therapist in the room was already a lot to handle.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 01, 2012, 09:22:10 AM
I'm headed to the airport in a bit to fly to a fight, and then fly right back as soon as it's over and I have . . . A bag full of fruit!!!  I'm hitching a ride on with my associate in his plane, and he's one of those people who burns a million calories a day in nervous energy, so he never seems to worry what he eats. He always has mounds of crap on the plane and then eats a half a cow for dinner, and then more crap on the flight back. I made the mistake of telling him a while ago that I love red velvet cake, which he had never had, so last time we had a trip, he had red velvet cupcakes with cream cheese frosting from some bakery near his house. I ate 3, plus a lot of other stuff. Not good.  When I got home, I had trouble sleeping because I was so stuffed.  I'm determined to do better today, though. I hate being the "dieter," but I can't eat like that. Unfortunately, I get Ito the mindset that "we'll, it's just for today," but there are an awful lot of "todays" this time of year.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on December 01, 2012, 09:46:07 AM
Go blue!  And what a fun trip!  Where are you headed and in what kind of plane? 

Flying out of little FBOs in small planes is such an adventure.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 01, 2012, 10:32:00 AM
GAAAAAAAAH. So, I put on a few pounds over Thanksgiving. Some of it came off nicely, great. Some of it stuck around, eh, that's to be expected. I figured out what a lot of it was last night. I got home, and my left ankle was totally swollen up. Puffy.As.Hell. My right ankle, too, but not as bad as the left. It's all fluid. DAMMIT. I was hoping I'd go a little longer before that started up. Thing is, I can't lose fluid weight while pregnant. If my body decides to puff up like a blowfish (it did last time), well, there you have it.  >:(

My ankles are still slightly puffy this morning, but not as bad.

And I seriously doubt it's a symptom of anything bad. It happened last time, too, and there was never any problem. I just retain water and possibly make enough blood to support 5 people while pregnant.  :grr:
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Post by: merigayle on December 01, 2012, 10:51:54 AM
debba-- just drink more water!!!!

mmmmm cupcakes.......

this cookie tray is going to be the death of me.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 01, 2012, 10:52:57 AM
Go blue!  And what a fun trip!  Where are you headed and in what kind of plane? 

Flying out of little FBOs in small planes is such an adventure.

We're going to New York for the Cotto/Trout Fight in MSG!  I'm super excited. The plane is a Cessna "mini-jet.". I'm sure it has a number or real name or something.  It really is a great way to travel. No lines, no stress, in and out. If you can't be rich, it's nice to have a rich friend. The guy I'm going with co-manages one of my fighters with me. He loves boxing and has a great business mind but has picked a lot of loser fighters over the years.  I think he keeps me around because I can spot good undeveloped talent better than he can and I don't get on his nerves. I am lucky to go along with him, even if he tries to make me fat.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 01, 2012, 10:54:09 AM
GAAAAAAAAH. So, I put on a few pounds over Thanksgiving. Some of it came off nicely, great. Some of it stuck around, eh, that's to be expected. I figured out what a lot of it was last night. I got home, and my left ankle was totally swollen up. Puffy.As.Hell. My right ankle, too, but not as bad as the left. It's all fluid. DAMMIT. I was hoping I'd go a little longer before that started up. Thing is, I can't lose fluid weight while pregnant. If my body decides to puff up like a blowfish (it did last time), well, there you have it.  >:(

My ankles are still slightly puffy this morning, but not as bad.

And I seriously doubt it's a symptom of anything bad. It happened last time, too, and there was never any problem. I just retain water and possibly make enough blood to support 5 people while pregnant.  :grr:

I did the same exact thing with both of my pregnancies. It sucks to be a blowfish!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 01, 2012, 11:08:13 AM
Meri, if I drink more water, I'll float away or get hyponatremia. I drink close to 5 liters a day already.

And blue, I'm SO GLAD it's not just me!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 01, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
Meri, if I drink more water, I'll float away or get hyponatremia. I drink close to 5 liters a day already.

And blue, I'm SO GLAD it's not just me!
LOL!

ACK! One of my patients asked me if i was pregnant.  :fiery:
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Post by: Run Amok on December 01, 2012, 12:56:20 PM
Have fun blue!

Debba that us the worst, so sorry!

Run #4 on the books. 21 miles so far and hoping for a few more tomorrow. Headed to the gym in a few to do a bodypump class then I have 2 horses to show to potential adopters later. Dinner with a friend later tonight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 01, 2012, 01:55:29 PM
At least I know what's causing it. I mean, yeah, we went a little bonkers over Thanksgiving weekend, but not THAT crazy. And I've been behaving myself, food-wise, all week. So the extra pounds made NO sense until I saw the cankles last night.

Still. SO. FRUSTRATING.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 01, 2012, 05:24:29 PM
At least I know what's causing it. I mean, yeah, we went a little bonkers over Thanksgiving weekend, but not THAT crazy. And I've been behaving myself, food-wise, all week. So the extra pounds made NO sense until I saw the cankles last night.

Still. SO. FRUSTRATING.
hey at least when someone asks if you are preggo you really are :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 01, 2012, 08:00:05 PM
Hah! Good point! (that sucks that someone asked you that, though. I mean, really, people.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on December 01, 2012, 09:24:44 PM
At least I know what's causing it. I mean, yeah, we went a little bonkers over Thanksgiving weekend, but not THAT crazy. And I've been behaving myself, food-wise, all week. So the extra pounds made NO sense until I saw the cankles last night.

Still. SO. FRUSTRATING.

Do you wear TED hose while you're pregnant?  My sister has to.  They are not attractive, but prevent cankles.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 02, 2012, 07:01:31 AM
Hah! Good point! (that sucks that someone asked you that, though. I mean, really, people.)
dude, this woman patted my belly and said, oh are you pregnant!!!!!!  :e) I was wearing a cute shirt under a cardigan that was empire waist, but not baggy, pretty slim fit. WTF????
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 02, 2012, 07:11:13 AM
Seriously Meri, I would have punched her.  People are idiots.
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Post by: merigayle on December 02, 2012, 07:38:11 AM
Seriously Meri, I would have punched her.  People are idiots.
i ran out of the room to the MT who is a good friend and was like, wtf?? she looked at me and was like, yeah i have no idea. I came home crying to DH and told him and he was like, YOU ARE NOT FAT!!!!!!!!!! So in the past three weeks, two people asked if i was pregnant and one asked how much weight had i gained since the summer :( 6 fucking pounds beotch.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 02, 2012, 08:21:47 AM
i ran out of the room to the MT who is a good friend and was like, wtf?? she looked at me and was like, yeah i have no idea. I came home crying to DH and told him and he was like, YOU ARE NOT FAT!!!!!!!!!! So in the past three weeks, two people asked if i was pregnant and one asked how much weight had i gained since the summer :( 6 fucking pounds beotch.

People really can suck it.  One of my boxer's told me recently, "You need to start  running more.  You're putting on weight.  I say this out of love."  It took every ounce of restraint I had not to say, "I don't get paid to weigh a certain amount.  You do.  And you embarrassed the crap out of my at you last fight when I had to go to the promoter the day before the televised weigh-in and tell him that there was no way you  were going to make weight because you snuck out to Dairy Queen every day when you were in training
camp."

As for today, DD wants homemade hot and sour soup, and while I'm at it I think I'll make some other kind of soup we can eat for lunches this week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 02, 2012, 08:32:31 AM
dude, this woman patted my belly and said, oh are you pregnant!!!!!!  :e) I was wearing a cute shirt under a cardigan that was empire waist, but not baggy, pretty slim fit. WTF????

WTF is right.. I was at a barre amp class with MY TWENTY FIVE  year old daughter and I am 51 and since I am old and hard of hearing I didn't even hear the instructor ask me this but my daughter was like " the instructor asked when you were due" and apparently kept giving pregnancy modifications during the class.. I mean WTF !!! I was with  my TWENTY FIVE year old daughter and I'm 51 and uterusless... how could you even hint that I was pregnant..

I thought of sending a complaint/suggestion to the gym about instructors not asking this unless they were sure, but I didn't bother.. I never went to another barre amp class though  :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:
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Post by: merigayle on December 02, 2012, 09:21:25 AM
OMG MoS!!!! That takes the cake for sure.

Glad I am not the only one who has gone thru this, but sad that we all have! LOL.
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Post by: debbatx on December 02, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Do you wear TED hose while you're pregnant?  My sister has to.  They are not attractive, but prevent cankles.

No. I probably should look into it, but I just haven't bothered. The swelling goes down overnight. Getting more exercise would help.
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Post by: merigayle on December 03, 2012, 07:58:06 AM
So my friends and i took our DD's to an amusement park last night for thei Xmas thing and then to CiCi's pizza bc my friend wanted to go to one badly and there are none near us. It was like a kid's dream restaurant! LOL. I had to cut DD off from eating, she ate so much and then had a bad tummy ache that night :( anywho, i tried to be good and had two plates of salad and just a couple small pieces of pizza. Could have been worse! LOL. My friends wanted to do Froyo after and i was like, no way! My kid may explode! LOL.
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Post by: cgraz on December 03, 2012, 08:06:25 AM
I cannot believe all these people who would make pregnant comments like that! Don't they know what women's bodies look like?!? Lacking that, at least have the manners to keep your mouth shut.

We went up to visit friends for their annual Christmas party this weekend, and it was a great time. I totally blew any semblance of healthy eating...lots of party food (so good!), drinks (many vodka tonics), and then a cheeseburger and fries for lunch the next day, before hitting the road to drive home. But it was totally worth it and I enjoyed it all. So I start a good on-plan week as of today.  :)
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Post by: merigayle on December 03, 2012, 08:27:54 AM
sometimes it is totally worth it :D

yeah, what is wrong with people? told my friends at dinner last night and they were like, you definitely do NOT look pregnant, maybe because you are thin (awww, shucks) and you were sitting, your shirt poofed out? But seriously, wtf is wrong with people?
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 03, 2012, 08:57:03 AM
I don't know what is wrong with me.  I was motivated to eat well yesterday, and then I got all stressed out and ate half a box of peanut brittle.  Then I was stressed out that I ate the peanut  brittle.  Then I was making grilled cheese sandwiches for the kids and I burned one so I ate that, too.  The only good note is that I made myself log the calories, so at least I know what I did.

I did have a nice quick run this morning before I woke the kids up for school.  I have a lunch date with my husband to the "big salad" place, and then sparring this afternoon, so hopefully I'm back on track.
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Post by: MiniDriver on December 03, 2012, 09:07:04 AM
I would have cut a bitch who dared to make pregnancy comments around me.  No, I just have a gut, OK?

Blue, I did some stress eating over the weekend too, and was rewarded with a 7 pound swing on the scale (likely due to salt, but still!!! 7 fucking pounds of water?).  That sort of thing annoys the hell out of me.  I have to work hard every day to get each pound off, but they bounce on with glee the moment I step out of line, even briefly.
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Post by: merigayle on December 03, 2012, 09:24:11 AM
Mini, your body is just like mine! IT SUCKS.

Blue- oh i eat leftover DD food all the time  :eyeroll: it is a hard habit to break. esp since i hate to waste food :D

Oh Mini, i did say, NO I AM FAT, LOL. Just to shut her up.
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Post by: debbatx on December 03, 2012, 09:49:44 AM
I feel like crap. My allergies are killing me - at least, I hope it's allergies, and not a cold - and all I want to do is sleep, but I can't, because I'm at work. And somehow they managed to turn on the heat in our room ONLY, so it's broiling in here and it's supposed to be in the 80s today, so really, no need for heat at ALL. Ugh.

On the plus side, the scale was cooperating relatively well this morning. My next dr. visit is on Friday, so I'm hoping I can keep things where they are.
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Post by: merigayle on December 03, 2012, 10:48:11 AM
Debba-- time for acupuncture????

I slogged an hour on the TM, more walking than anything, but moving is good, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 03, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
I just went a couple of weeks ago - can't afford another treatment until my next scheduled appt. I wish! And good job on the TM!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 03, 2012, 11:05:12 AM
I cannot believe all these people who would make pregnant comments like that! Don't they know what women's bodies look like?!? Lacking that, at least have the manners to keep your mouth shut.

We went up to visit friends for their annual Christmas party this weekend, and it was a great time. I totally blew any semblance of healthy eating...lots of party food (so good!), drinks (many vodka tonics), and then a cheeseburger and fries for lunch the next day, before hitting the road to drive home. But it was totally worth it and I enjoyed it all. So I start a good on-plan week as of today.  :)

I drank and ate too much at my Christmas party on Saturday night, then ate greasy food the next day, too.  :D  I don't know what it is about the day after drinking, but a burger and fries is pretty much the best thing ever.  I then used that as an excuse to eat shit all day, tho.   :nono:  My stomach hurt badly last night. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 03, 2012, 11:06:56 AM
I drank and ate too much at my Christmas party on Saturday night, then ate greasy food the next day, too.  :D  I don't know what it is about the day after drinking, but a burger and fries is pretty much the best thing ever.  I then used that as an excuse to eat shit all day, tho.   :nono:  My stomach hurt badly last night. 

Yeah, it was all I could think of - having a cheeseburger and fries.

But likewise, my stomach definitely has issues with not being used to eating that kind of stuff!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on December 03, 2012, 12:21:50 PM
I'm definitely an advocate of grease to mop up the effects of drinking the night before.  I love a grilled cheese with fries.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 03, 2012, 12:54:24 PM
Heh. My mom and I got exceedingly drunk at a friend's wedding once, drunk enough that my very health-conscious mother got the munchies after we got back to our hotel and ordered PIZZA. And the next day at lunch, the waitress did her usual spiel about appetizers and mentioned queso, and my mom's eyes lit.up. and she said, "Ooooooh, QUESO!!! YES!!"

It was hilarious. And yes, grease is the best thing ever for a hangover.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 03, 2012, 01:16:15 PM
Heh. My mom and I got exceedingly drunk at a friend's wedding once, drunk enough that my very health-conscious mother got the munchies after we got back to our hotel and ordered PIZZA. And the next day at lunch, the waitress did her usual spiel about appetizers and mentioned queso, and my mom's eyes lit.up. and she said, "Ooooooh, QUESO!!! YES!!"

It was hilarious. And yes, grease is the best thing ever for a hangover.

:D

We had grease for lunch and grease for dinner.  That is why I felt so bad when I went to bed!  No grease today.  I'm going to get either a salad from qdoba or a baked potato from wendy's for lunch.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 03, 2012, 01:21:55 PM
Grease really messes me up right now. I suspect (and have suspected in the past) that my gallbladder isn't functioning at 100%, and having problems with greasy food is one of the symptoms. Which sucks, because a cheeseburger is one of my favorite things ever. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on December 03, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
Grease really messes me up right now. I suspect (and have suspected in the past) that my gallbladder isn't functioning at 100%, and having problems with greasy food is one of the symptoms. Which sucks, because a cheeseburger is one of my favorite things ever. :(

I suspect I have gallbladder problems also. But it always clears up so I havent asked my Dr about it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on December 03, 2012, 01:47:41 PM
I got on the scale yesterday.   :(  I guess I have been eating too much.  Or to put another spin on it, not exercising enough - like not more than short walks for my dog.  I NEED to run but I am just having so much trouble getting up.  I have been really late to work everyday as it is.
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Post by: debbatx on December 03, 2012, 02:13:01 PM
I suspect I have gallbladder problems also. But it always clears up so I havent asked my Dr about it.

Yeah, normally it comes and goes, but I think being pregnant is exacerbating the issue.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 03, 2012, 03:25:15 PM
Yeah, normally it comes and goes, but I think being pregnant is exacerbating the issue.

My SIL had terrible gall bladder issues at the end of her 2nd pregnancy, and a pregnant gal at work just had hers removed.  I hope yours starts behaving, Debba!
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Post by: debbatx on December 03, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
Thanks, I do, too!
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Post by: Run Amok on December 05, 2012, 10:47:51 AM
Blech. Feeling kind of yucky today. DD is home from school with what sounds kind of similar. Headachey, unhappy tummy, overall "blah" feeling.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 05, 2012, 11:27:19 AM
My allergies are attempting to kick my ass. They haven't succeeded so far, but they've definitely landed a few good hits.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 05, 2012, 11:49:23 AM
my allergies have just been awful lately.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 05, 2012, 11:52:28 AM
OBH said in another thread that the cedar pollen is starting to bloom. That usually kicks my ass, so I'm betting that's what it is. The acupuncture is helping, though. Normally I'd feel much, much worse.
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Post by: merigayle on December 05, 2012, 12:06:10 PM
i think here it is moldy leaves. Not much left to be allergic to :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 05, 2012, 01:26:15 PM
Yeah, we've got mold, too. That's pretty much a constant irritant. Combine it with seasonal pollen, and my ass is usually kicked. The acupuncture is helping, though.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 06, 2012, 08:13:05 AM
Allergies are so sucky. They've wrecked a lot of my work outs lately.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 06, 2012, 12:14:38 PM
Ugh, we got a little cold front in yesterday (maybe Tuesday, now that I think about it) and it's kicking up more pollen. I woke up this morning to post-nasal drip, a swollen tonsil, and general crappy-feeling-ness. I'd like to go back to bed now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 06, 2012, 01:44:57 PM
So i did an hour or so on the TM, some walking, some running, probably 4.5-5 miles. Felt ok, but when i sleep crappy i get searing nerve pain in my foot (from my back) and it was relentless. So, my RD friend is totally convinced i have some thyroid issues that are not showing up on blood work, with the weight issues, low body temperature, etc. Anywho, I started some thyroid supplements and i really think they are making a difference. It has been 2-3 weeks. Oh and i have not gained a pound and have been eating cookies! LOL.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on December 06, 2012, 01:45:58 PM
I suck.  I don't even like turkish delight.  But there's a box of it 6 feet from my desk and I've been noshing on it all day.  Damn.   :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 06, 2012, 02:23:06 PM
what is turkish delight?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on December 06, 2012, 02:24:32 PM
. So, my RD friend is totally convinced i have some thyroid issues that are not showing up on blood work, with the weight issues, low body temperature, etc. Anywho, I started some thyroid supplements and i really think they are making a difference. It has been 2-3 weeks. Oh and i have not gained a pound and have been eating cookies! LOL.

what are you taking? I have symptoms that do not correlate with blood work as well.  It is very frustrating.  I am sourced out to a law office today and there was a catered lunch.  Lemon bars in my mouth!  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 06, 2012, 02:43:40 PM
what are you taking? I have symptoms that do not correlate with blood work as well.  It is very frustrating.  I am sourced out to a law office today and there was a catered lunch.  Lemon bars in my mouth!  :D
Thyroid Response by Innate. Could all be in my head, but who knows!
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Post by: debbatx on December 06, 2012, 03:22:59 PM
Interesting!
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Post by: diablita on December 06, 2012, 03:27:12 PM
runs off to buy that stuff...
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Post by: merigayle on December 06, 2012, 03:27:35 PM
LOL!!!! You guys are too funny :D
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Post by: diablita on December 06, 2012, 03:32:01 PM
typing with my left hand:

Day Three post-op and I'm doing much better.  I can't bend my right elbow until follow up appt next Monday.
I also can't exercise and b/w that and the fact that I seem to be bloated from the anesthesia (can't think of another reason?) and the abx that are upsetting my stomach (b/c of skin graft) I'm feeling quite huge but I know it's temporary.  And I don't have cancer anymore, so am not complaining.
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Post by: onawhim on December 06, 2012, 03:34:53 PM
Glad you are feeling better  :hug:
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Post by: merigayle on December 06, 2012, 03:44:49 PM
 :hug: diablita. I am PETRIFIED of going to the derm, but you are a good example set for the rest of us :) I am convinced every freckle is abnormal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on December 06, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
what is turkish delight?

Horrible jelly candy coated with powdered sugar.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 06, 2012, 04:49:04 PM
Horrible jelly candy coated with powdered sugar.
gotcha
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 06, 2012, 06:12:50 PM
so after everyone making comments about me gaining weight, being preggo, etc, a patient;s father who come with her to her appts was shocked when i told him i had a daughter and then said, excuse me, how old are you? i cannot believe you have a 3.5yo kid.  :preen:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 06, 2012, 08:13:10 PM
so after everyone making comments about me gaining weight, being preggo, etc, a patient;s father who come with her to her appts was shocked when i told him i had a daughter and then said, excuse me, how old are you? i cannot believe you have a 3.5yo kid.  :preen:

 :heartbeat: :heartbeat:

I get that a a lot with "I can't believe you have a 25 year old... great feeling!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 07, 2012, 08:46:35 AM
That's a better turn of events, meri! Very interesting about the thyroid, too.

Hope your recovery continues to go well, diablita!

So as suspected, I gained back the 3-ish pounds that I've been swapping back and forth from pre-Thanksgiving, to Thanksgiving, to a good week, to a week with 2 Christmas parties and no running. So they're baaaaack. But this is a new week, so I'll do my best to offset upcoming holiday stuff on Saturday and Sunday, and I think for starters minimizing the booze will be a good strategy. We'll see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 07, 2012, 10:24:57 AM
Yeah, booze can really throw ya for a loop.  It's got calories, AND I tend to eat junk then.  Like, OMG, you know what sounds good at 12:30 am?  WINGS?   :nono:  :D

W
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Post by: cgraz on December 07, 2012, 10:38:38 AM
Yeah, no kidding! And the 2 cupcakes and cream puff that were sounding (and tasting) really good after a couple of prosecco & chambord cocktails...double whammy!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 07, 2012, 11:47:54 AM
Up a bit at this month's appointment, but I was expecting it, and no one seemed concerned. Between the fluid retention, Thanksgiving, Reid's birthday party, and a get together I went to on Wednesday.... yeah, that was about right.

The baby scared the crap out of me, though. They couldn't find the heartbeat on the doppler, so we had to do an ultrasound. Everything's fine, but  :o :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

This kid's already a stubborn little thing.
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Post by: merigayle on December 07, 2012, 12:11:45 PM
the midwife could not find a heart beat on me until i was 20 weeks. No joke. I had two ultrasounds to check for viability because of it! no anterior placenta or anything !!! i feel your pain.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 07, 2012, 12:45:05 PM
I've ultrasounds at every visit, now, so we've been able to see it every single time. But yeah, today was SUPPOSED to just be the doppler. Nope!  :nono:
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Post by: merigayle on December 07, 2012, 01:04:39 PM
but it all turned out ok! whew!

and i gotta brag! had my first locked thread :D
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Post by: Magic Microbe on December 07, 2012, 01:31:05 PM
but it all turned out ok! whew!

and i gotta brag! had my first locked thread :D

Mine have been locked bucease of she who cannot be named but yours is a mystery.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 07, 2012, 01:34:01 PM
Mine have been locked bucease of she who cannot be named but yours is a mystery.
i thought Sue was sick of the Fionn dick talk, no?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on December 07, 2012, 02:22:56 PM
i thought Sue was sick of the Fionn dick talk, no?

I don't think that was it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 07, 2012, 02:28:55 PM
well i for one did NOT lock it. Sue did. Who knows why. The parody threads? People being mean?

I came home for 10 minutes to do dishes and light the fire in the wood burning stove before picking DD up and ate her left over breakfast :( it was yummy! :D
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Post by: onawhim on December 07, 2012, 03:30:16 PM
I am also confused by that lock.  Oh well. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 07, 2012, 04:53:33 PM
I think it was starting to turn into the original thread all over again - or was heading that way. Maybe? That was my guess, at least.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on December 08, 2012, 03:26:28 PM
Hi there!  Just checking in to see how you're doing.  I need a nap but can't fall asleep.

I've been really good about not snacking at night (other than a fruit or TJ's 100 cal chocolate bar) and the anesthesia bloat is going away so the scale is closer to where it should be.  But this no working out thing is killing me.  F/u appointment on Monday; hopefully the big bandages will come off my arm so I can use it again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 09, 2012, 09:40:06 AM
Want to work out, but it's supposed to be in the high 20s/low 30s the next few mornings. Uhhhhh. No thanks. (I know, I'm a wimp.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 09, 2012, 12:03:36 PM
Any options for a back-up workout plan if the weather is a deterrent? Something else you can do? I know I'm working up a very intimate relationship with the treadmill in the basement, personally - now that it's colder and darker when I'm working out, and the weather has been lousy lately.

If you don't have anything like that at home or at a gym, is there a video or something you can use to work out inside?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 09, 2012, 06:10:04 PM
The gym doesn't open early enough for me to go in the mornings, or I'd do that. I could attempt a dvd, but it's a crapshoot on whether or not it would wake up Reid - our house is tiny and his room opens onto the living room, and is next door to the office, so it's 50/50 on waking him up.

I might try the dvd idea - I can do some prenatal yoga, which should be pretty quiet.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on December 10, 2012, 07:17:34 AM
The gym doesn't open early enough for me to go in the mornings, or I'd do that. I could attempt a dvd, but it's a crapshoot on whether or not it would wake up Reid - our house is tiny and his room opens onto the living room, and is next door to the office, so it's 50/50 on waking him up.

I might try the dvd idea - I can do some prenatal yoga, which should be pretty quiet.

turn sound off?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 10, 2012, 07:18:38 AM
Hope it works out to do the DVD or something...even a quick 20 minutes or something would make you happy for having done it.  :)

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 10, 2012, 10:44:09 AM
turn sound off?

Then I don't know WTF to do next!!!

I skipped this morning. DH woke up at 3, the dog woke up at 4, freaking out over our smoke detector chirping - don't know why, but it scares her to death when it does that - yeah, there was no way I was going to make a 5 AM workout. Will attempt again tomorrow!
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 10, 2012, 10:57:53 AM
The clementines are finally here!  I finally have a nervous munching food that isn't a million calories.

Headed to the gym in a little while for a boxing work out.

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Post by: merigayle on December 10, 2012, 11:17:45 AM
I just got another crate of them :)
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Post by: cgraz on December 10, 2012, 11:41:20 AM
Yeah, I bought some last week and they were so good! I hate when you are excited to eat them and they are blah.
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Post by: onawhim on December 10, 2012, 12:08:52 PM
the last box I bought was dry and gritty so I have not bought any more  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 10, 2012, 12:56:59 PM
Gah!!! Just opened up my "pineapple" yogurt, stirred it up good, and took a big bite.

....yeah, that's actually lemon-flavored yogurt. Dammit!
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Post by: merigayle on December 10, 2012, 01:09:55 PM
chobani? the lemon is nasty.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on December 10, 2012, 01:30:42 PM
I like the lemon liberte yogurt.  I tried the chobani blood orange though and the grainy pulpy texture made me gag. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 10, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
Yeah, chobani. I got through it, and it's not like someone forced me to eat sushi or something, but it's not an experience I'd want to repeat. Then again, I liked the blood orange flavor.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 10, 2012, 02:40:30 PM
I like the lemon liberte yogurt.  I tried the chobani blood orange though and the grainy pulpy texture made me gag. 

I tried that too, and threw it away.  Nasty.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on December 10, 2012, 03:39:55 PM
Yeah, I bought some last week and they were so good! I hate when you are excited to eat them and they are blah.

pits...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on December 10, 2012, 09:46:26 PM
I like the lemon Liberte, too.  Sorry about the disappointment, debba


So I have my right arm back!  :w00t:  I have a smaller bandage covering the graft and can't run for a week or two but I can start walking.  And I can bend it.  I'm so, so happy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on December 10, 2012, 10:01:24 PM
 :w00t:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on December 10, 2012, 11:12:38 PM
My favorite is the black cherry flavor of chobhani!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 11, 2012, 06:49:02 AM
Hooray for bending your arm, diablita!

I want to like Chobani but when I buy it, I never end up eating it. I am addicted to the Muller Corners strawberry flavor though. It's not Greek yogurt, just regular. It's my post-yoga or post-run treat.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 11, 2012, 07:35:23 AM
Good news, D!
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 11, 2012, 10:02:36 AM
Hooray for bending your arm, diablita!

I want to like Chobani but when I buy it, I never end up eating it. I am addicted to the Muller Corners strawberry flavor though. It's not Greek yogurt, just regular. It's my post-yoga or post-run treat.

I always bought store brand until I bought Chobani and now there is no going back.  If you don't like pits, don't get passion fruit, it is little pits or granule type things in it.  I love all flavors, lemon included but I do think so far the blood orange is my favorite.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 11, 2012, 10:51:12 AM
So, I've been on my thyroid meds for over a couple weeks (I think), and my weight is frustrating me still.  I've been tracking my calories for a full week, every single day, and have been under most days and only over 1 day.  Yet I gained almost a pound.  WTF?  My body temp is also not increasing.  I don't know how long it's supposed to take.  In fact, my body temp seems to be lower than before.  It was 93.6 the other morning.   That cannot be good.  It had been 94-95ish most days, with an occassional 96.  When I saw the 93.6, I was like "Am I really even alive?"  Then I told my DH that if he killed me, he could probably get away with it if he had a decent alibi close to the murder time, since my body temp is so off, the coroner would not be able to really pinpoint the time of death.

This is the shit I think about.   :eyeroll:  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 11, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
Yay, diablita!

As for the chobani, I think the disappointment stemmed from expecting it to taste like pineapple, and then not tasting that way at all. And it took me a few bites to figure it out - I thought it had gone bad or something.

Courtney, can you call the doctor back and let them know what's going on? From everything I've read, it can take time to get the dosage correct.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 11, 2012, 11:54:49 AM
I am going to see the doc again soon.  :)  I need to reschedule the appointment, so this is a good reminder to call her! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 11, 2012, 11:59:47 AM
As for the chobani, I think the disappointment stemmed from expecting it to taste like pineapple, and then not tasting that way at all. And it took me a few bites to figure it out - I thought it had gone bad or something.

Yeah, that is a very unhappy surprise when your mouth is expecting one flavor and you get something so different. It's not even that it's totally bad, just not what you were ready for!

Courtney, hope some follow up helps get that more on track. That is a low temp!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 11, 2012, 12:29:06 PM
Courtney-- from what i see with my patients, it is VERY hard to get thyroid meds at the right level, and even once you do, to keep them at the right level over time. Also, how you take your medicine is very important, for example, it is recommended with many thyroid meds, to take before food and not with any other medication or supplements. I have some patients who take it around 3-4am and go back to sleep. It seems to help with the absorption.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on December 11, 2012, 05:23:10 PM
So, I've been on my thyroid meds for over a couple weeks (I think), and my weight is frustrating me still.  I've been tracking my calories for a full week, every single day, and have been under most days and only over 1 day.  Yet I gained almost a pound.  WTF?  My body temp is also not increasing.  I don't know how long it's supposed to take.  In fact, my body temp seems to be lower than before.  It was 93.6 the other morning.   That cannot be good.  It had been 94-95ish most days, with an occassional 96.  When I saw the 93.6, I was like "Am I really even alive?"  Then I told my DH that if he killed me, he could probably get away with it if he had a decent alibi close to the murder time, since my body temp is so off, the coroner would not be able to really pinpoint the time of death.

This is the shit I think about.   :eyeroll:  :D


My body temp rarely gets over 95.

It is super frustrating when I am sick and think I have a high temp and it reads 98 or 99....that is a high temp for me but nobody believes me.
I also can no longer eat at my husband's favorite restaurant because I get so cold in that place that I am completely miserable and shivering.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 11, 2012, 05:56:56 PM
I'm usually in the 97s somewhere.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on December 11, 2012, 05:58:23 PM
So, I've been on my thyroid meds for over a couple weeks (I think), and my weight is frustrating me still.  I've been tracking my calories for a full week, every single day, and have been under most days and only over 1 day.  Yet I gained almost a pound.  WTF?  My body temp is also not increasing.  I don't know how long it's supposed to take.  In fact, my body temp seems to be lower than before.  It was 93.6 the other morning.   That cannot be good.  It had been 94-95ish most days, with an occassional 96.  When I saw the 93.6, I was like "Am I really even alive?"  Then I told my DH that if he killed me, he could probably get away with it if he had a decent alibi close to the murder time, since my body temp is so off, the coroner would not be able to really pinpoint the time of death.

This is the shit I think about.   :eyeroll:  :D

wait 6 weeks to allow the meds time to do their thing, and then call your doctor.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on December 11, 2012, 06:34:35 PM

My body temp rarely gets over 95.

It is super frustrating when I am sick and think I have a high temp and it reads 98 or 99....that is a high temp for me but nobody believes me.


I am the same way. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 11, 2012, 06:37:58 PM
interesting that we all have this issue!
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Post by: Courtney on December 11, 2012, 06:55:29 PM
wait 6 weeks to allow the meds time to do their thing, and then call your doctor.

Thank you, Witchy.  :D  I was hoping you might see this.  It hasn't been that long, I know. 

I'm supposed to take it an hour before I eat, or 2-3 hours after I eat.  So I take one dose first thing in the AM (but I also take my allergy meds then, maybe I should switch those to night?), but depending on my schedule, I sometimes take it before lunch, sometimes in the afternoon.  What sucks is that by the time it's been 2-3 hours after lunch, I'm hungry, again, and the idea of waiting another hour to eat something does not please me. 

She mentioned something about a liquid form I can take once a week (?) but apparently the pills are supposed to work a bit better.  I'm a bad pill swallower (I gag about half the time) and then there's the whole food/drug thing.  SO maybe that is an option.  We'll see. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on December 11, 2012, 07:02:03 PM
it's more important that you take them in a consistent manner, every day.  so, get up and take the pill immediately.  take your allergy meds then, too, if that's when you can remember to take them.  and do that every day.  don't forget to take them and then do it 4 hours later.

i wake up, take my pill, go down to the kitchen and have a glass of water and a slice of toast.  i don't wait an hour to eat, because i can't.  if i wait an hour to eat, i won't have a chance to eat until lunch (and possibly not until supper) and the low-blood-sugar-monster is a terrible monster.  and if i wait to take my pill, i won't take it.  'cause my brain is not accustomed to taking pills at any time other than in the morning.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 12, 2012, 07:55:08 AM
made a big pot of 0 pt soup yesterday. It definitely curbs the eating.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 12, 2012, 08:48:11 AM
made a big pot of 0 pt soup yesterday. It definitely curbs the eating.
do you have that posted on your pinterest?  I used to make that all the time.. I think maybe I will make it this weekend
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 12, 2012, 09:30:23 AM
I need to make a pot of that, but I don't know if I'll have time this weekend or not. Hmmmmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 12, 2012, 09:59:52 AM
do you have that posted on your pinterest?  I used to make that all the time.. I think maybe I will make it this weekend
yep.

it took me no time to make and i simmered it while in the shower :D I pretty much make it up as i go along.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 12, 2012, 11:05:27 AM
Good Lord. Where is it on your Pinterest? You have so much stuff!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 12, 2012, 11:14:47 AM
it's more important that you take them in a consistent manner, every day.  so, get up and take the pill immediately.  take your allergy meds then, too, if that's when you can remember to take them.  and do that every day.  don't forget to take them and then do it 4 hours later.

i wake up, take my pill, go down to the kitchen and have a glass of water and a slice of toast.  i don't wait an hour to eat, because i can't.  if i wait an hour to eat, i won't have a chance to eat until lunch (and possibly not until supper) and the low-blood-sugar-monster is a terrible monster.  and if i wait to take my pill, i won't take it.  'cause my brain is not accustomed to taking pills at any time other than in the morning.

Yes, I know that is right!!  I am good about it in the AM, first thing when I get up.  That way I can have something (coffee with milk, typically) when I get to work an hour or so later.  It's just the 2nd go round of pills that is throwing me for a loop.  I need to probalby just put a reminder in my calendar so it pops up at 11:00.   And yes, the low blood sugar monster sucks.  I get cranky. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 12, 2012, 12:28:41 PM
http://www.food.com/recipe/ww-0-point-weight-watchers-cabbage-soup-128956 (http://www.food.com/recipe/ww-0-point-weight-watchers-cabbage-soup-128956)
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Post by: debbatx on December 12, 2012, 12:34:21 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on December 12, 2012, 12:39:23 PM
I'm another low-body temper, if I get up to 97-98 I'm really sick.  I wonder what this means about us?

Courtney, I don't know much about thyroid meds, but I do know dosage can be tricky.  Witchy is wise.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 12, 2012, 01:20:50 PM
I'm another low-body temper, if I get up to 97-98 I'm really sick.  I wonder what this means about us?

Courtney, I don't know much about thyroid meds, but I do know dosage can be tricky.  Witchy is wise.
slow metabolism, easy to gain weight, possible undiagnosable thyroid issues.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on December 12, 2012, 01:28:55 PM
Yes, I know that is right!!  I am good about it in the AM, first thing when I get up.  That way I can have something (coffee with milk, typically) when I get to work an hour or so later.  It's just the 2nd go round of pills that is throwing me for a loop.  I need to probalby just put a reminder in my calendar so it pops up at 11:00.   And yes, the low blood sugar monster sucks.  I get cranky. 

Not the same medication, but I set my watch alarm so that I remember to take my birth control at the same time every day.  It is dorky, but it works for me.  We don't want any ducklings just yet!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on December 12, 2012, 01:31:35 PM
Yes, I know that is right!!  I am good about it in the AM, first thing when I get up.  That way I can have something (coffee with milk, typically) when I get to work an hour or so later.  It's just the 2nd go round of pills that is throwing me for a loop.  I need to probalby just put a reminder in my calendar so it pops up at 11:00.   And yes, the low blood sugar monster sucks.  I get cranky. 

she has you taking them twice a day?  with all due respect, wth? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 12, 2012, 02:17:48 PM
she has you taking them twice a day?  with all due respect, wth? 

No idea :D 

It's a T3 ER 5MCG cap, which I take 2 of in the AM and 2 before lunch. 

I don't know much about how it's supposed to work, TBH. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on December 12, 2012, 02:25:19 PM
slow metabolism, easy to gain weight, possible undiagnosable thyroid issues.

Yeah that's me.  When I'm fat, thyroid tests go off.  When I'm thin they're ok. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on December 12, 2012, 02:47:51 PM
ah, you're on liothyronine.  it has a shorter half life than levothyroxine.  call your doctor if you aren't feeling any better - 6 weeks is too long to wait.

i still can't figure out why she has you taking several doses of 5mcg per day.  that makes no sense to me.  but whatever.  i ain't no doctah.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 12, 2012, 03:03:36 PM
ah, you're on liothyronine.  it has a shorter half life than levothyroxine.  call your doctor if you aren't feeling any better - 6 weeks is too long to wait.

i still can't figure out why she has you taking several doses of 5mcg per day.  that makes no sense to me.  but whatever.  i ain't no doctah.



I need to schedule my follow up.  I'm also supposed to do this yeast test, where I spit in a vial 4 times a day to see if I'm extra yeasty (I have the symptoms), but you can't have caffiene, and there are these weird rules around when to spit and stuff.  So I don't want to be doing this craziness at work, and on the weekends, I keep forgetting.  But I'll follow up with her on the thyroid stuff now. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on December 12, 2012, 03:23:50 PM
I need to schedule my follow up.  I'm also supposed to do this yeast test, where I spit in a vial 4 times a day to see if I'm extra yeasty (I have the symptoms), but you can't have caffiene, and there are these weird rules around when to spit and stuff.  So I don't want to be doing this craziness at work, and on the weekends, I keep forgetting.  But I'll follow up with her on the thyroid stuff now. 

With all due respect to you and your Dr the systemic candida stuff is not actually backed up by any real scientific evidence.
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Post by: Courtney on December 12, 2012, 03:46:44 PM
With all due respect to you and your Dr the systemic candida stuff is not actually backed up by any real scientific evidence.

I've read a variety of things about it and am a bit wary myself.  But (TMI coming) I get yeast infections way too much if I'm not very, very careful (and sometimes even when I am), so it's something that I've wondered about for a while.  I mean, not everyone gets these things 3-4 x a year, and FOR SURE every time they take antibiotics, so something has to be off somewhere.  Where?  I don't know.  :D  I've learned how to avoid them for the most part, but all it takes is sitting around too long in damp workout clothes.  Gross, I know. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on December 12, 2012, 04:55:53 PM
Your normal bacterial flora is likely more sensitive to things like antibiotics than other peoples. Daily probiotics could possibly help.

They are now discovering that a lot of food intolerances and digestive issues are likely linked to a bacterial flora issue but there isn't enough data yet for any real "cures" to be suggested. Chrones disease has long been linked to microbial flora and resulting inflammation
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 12, 2012, 05:38:10 PM
ugh. stress is gonna kill me. The after school lady who has been watching DD, well, it just ain't working. I am taking her to work with me one or two days next week and have someone watching her thru the end of the year. Put an ad up on care.com and  :fingers: to find someone.
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Post by: debbatx on December 12, 2012, 05:58:10 PM
Aw, bummer that she didn't work out. I hope you can find something else soon!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 12, 2012, 06:12:17 PM
Yeah there were a couple of issues this week that tipped the scales :(
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Post by: Courtney on December 12, 2012, 07:01:26 PM
Your normal bacterial flora is likely more sensitive to things like antibiotics than other peoples. Diaphragm probiotics could possibly help.

They are now discovering that a lot of food intolerances and digestive issues are likely linked to a bacterial flora issue but there isn't enough data yet for any real "cures" to be suggested. Chrones disease has long been linked to microbial flora and resulting inflammation

Well I wish they would get this shit figured out already!  :D 

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Post by: witchypoo on December 12, 2012, 10:45:16 PM
I've read a variety of things about it and am a bit wary myself.  But (TMI coming) I get yeast infections way too much if I'm not very, very careful (and sometimes even when I am), so it's something that I've wondered about for a while.  I mean, not everyone gets these things 3-4 x a year, and FOR SURE every time they take antibiotics, so something has to be off somewhere.  Where?  I don't know.  :D  I've learned how to avoid them for the most part, but all it takes is sitting around too long in damp workout clothes.  Gross, I know. 

caprylic acid supplement
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 13, 2012, 10:54:04 AM
Yeah there were a couple of issues this week that tipped the scales :(

Dang. I've heard good things about care.com and sittercity, though.  :fingers: :fingers: :fingers:

Still holding pretty steady, weight-wise. Whew.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 13, 2012, 11:46:17 AM
ugh. stress is gonna kill me. The after school lady who has been watching DD, well, it just ain't working. I am taking her to work with me one or two days next week and have someone watching her thru the end of the year. Put an ad up on care.com and  :fingers: to find someone.
That sucks. Stressing about your child (and her care) is the worst).

I am unreasonably excited today that my knee didn't hurt one bit during my workout.
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Post by: merigayle on December 13, 2012, 01:14:54 PM
good news on your knee :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 15, 2012, 07:58:30 AM
so today is CD1 of my period and i was down 2 lbs on the scale! wow. And i cannot say i have been eating all that well, i am, except for the cookies :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 15, 2012, 09:13:35 AM
Two pounds is awesome.  Especially when you don't expect it. 

I'm a little nervous about eating this weekend.  We're making cookies and treats for the kids' teachers.  I'm flipping through the recipe cards trying to decide what would be the least tempting to me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 15, 2012, 01:42:25 PM
so today is CD1 of my period and i was down 2 lbs on the scale! wow. And i cannot say i have been eating all that well, i am, except for the cookies :D

Oh man the cookies!  I'm fearing this.. but luckily I have someone to give them to :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 15, 2012, 04:06:14 PM
Oh man the cookies!  I'm fearing this.. but luckily I have someone to give them to :)
come with tins to fill to gift right away. or i have some boxes and bags for the cookies. right to gifting. DH is probably going to go with an army of cookies to work.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on December 15, 2012, 04:28:19 PM
I've been a baaaad girl this week. Ate with abandon and zero excercise. I did zumba and bodypump this morning though. I don't think I love zumba but it was too cold and rainy and windy to run.
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Post by: MiniDriver on December 15, 2012, 06:26:45 PM
I'm in love with the lateral trainer at the gym. 

Video to show what it does. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzQHOcBrSso#ws)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 15, 2012, 06:56:41 PM
come with tins to fill to gift right away. or i have some boxes and bags for the cookies. right to gifting. DH is probably going to go with an army of cookies to work.

The majority of mine are going to CT.. Just have to make it through the week, but will probably freeze them.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 15, 2012, 07:35:44 PM
Up a little from a few days ago, but I expected that after the massive Jason's Deli sandwiches we got from work yesterday. And the potluck the day before.  :nono: Since it's not supposed to be 20 degrees in the morning this week (sorry, Northern People, I'm a cold-weather wimp), I'm planning on getting up and walking this week. Hopefully that will mitigate some of the damage.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on December 16, 2012, 07:01:08 AM
come with tins to fill to gift right away. or i have some boxes and bags for the cookies. right to gifting. DH is probably going to go with an army of cookies to work.

Frankly, any home-baked cookies I receive always get thrown out ASAP.  I do not need temptation in the house.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: meredith on December 16, 2012, 07:20:28 AM
Frankly, any home-baked cookies I receive always get thrown out ASAP.  I do not need temptation in the house.
i hate wasting food, i regift!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on December 16, 2012, 07:44:49 AM
i hate wasting food, i regift!

I hate the feeling of going to bed thinking I overdid it on junk food.  I prefer the feeling of "I did the right thing for myself."  Many a pound has been put on for the sake of "saving food".

As far as I know, most people want to keep their weight gain at a minimum, esp. at this time of the year.  I will give fruit baskets anytime, or other healthy food stuff that does not perish.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on December 16, 2012, 07:46:19 AM
Welcome, Meredith!  Post #1, I see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 16, 2012, 07:47:42 AM
No one ever gives me cookies. I don't know whether to be sad, or glad.  :hah:

If I did get them, and I worked in an office, I'd bring them in - a basket of cookies for one person = recipe for overindulgence, but a basket of cookies for a bunch of people = just a little bit of holiday sweetness.

One cookie would be nice.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on December 16, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
a basket of cookies for one person = recipe for overindulgence, but a basket of cookies for a bunch of people = just a little bit of holiday sweetness.

One cookie would be nice.

This thread actually has me convinced me that some people have a hard time resisting, and I do not want to contribute to (1) their posting in some blog that they regret having had too many, for whatever reason, and to (2) tempting those who have a hard time with weight loss, but are trying. 

I believe people should buy their own junk food and thus be able to take full responsibility for it.  Going somewhere to buy it is a conscious decision, whereas just putting your hand in the jar and eating a few is most often unconsciously and quickly done. 

Not to mention that those who are healthy and food conscious eaters are being "blamed" in the office for not having them. We have seen plenty of that in this thread, too.
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 16, 2012, 09:08:02 AM
Frankly, any home-baked cookies I receive always get thrown out ASAP.  I do not need temptation in the house.

Wow.. perfect!  I giess  :eyeroll:  Anyway... I'm giving my cookies to my friend, who will take them to his family in CT.. His elderly Mom won't be making any cookies... and to my daughter and will bring some to work... I will probably freeze some to bring to my sister in laws for Christmas as well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on December 16, 2012, 09:22:51 AM
This actually reminds me: My neighbor came over a few years ago with a "thank you" gift: a dozen cider donuts.  Mind you, there are only two of us in the house, and we do not eat that kind of food. As she left, I said to DH, "I am throwing them out.", and I put them in the garbage. He said, "no, bring them to work tomorrow."  So, I took them out of the garbage and placed them out of sight and smell. 

About an hour later, my neighbor shows up again at the kitchen door and says: "You know, I gave you the wrong package, this one is meant for you. Can I have the donuts back?"  I was so glad they were not in the garbage.  She would have seen where I had "stored" them.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on December 16, 2012, 09:34:17 AM
I know I have trouble resisting treats when they are in my house, so I often prevent them from being there too.  I will take a serving (or maybe two) and then either freeze or toss the rest.  If I have someone else to give it to, great. 

  Otherwise I eat too much and just feel bad about myself later.     I too have gotten over the guilt of not keeping all the goodies/treats that I somehow end up with.  I appreciate the gift, but I don't need to consume the whole thing to do so. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 16, 2012, 10:12:35 AM
I know I have trouble resisting treats when they are in my house, so I often prevent them from being there too.  I will take a serving (or maybe two) and then either freeze or toss the rest.  If I have someone else to give it to, great. 

  Otherwise I eat too much and just feel bad about myself later.     I too have gotten over the guilt of not keeping all the goodies/treats that I somehow end up with.  I appreciate the gift, but I don't need to consume the whole thing to do so. 

I will start this out by saying and I working with a nutritionist now and am really not allowing myself my "wants".. However, I did just take a very great course at work called Energy for Life and there was a huge portion of the course presented by a nutritionist and even with all of my research in the past, it was soo soo informative. In short.. she talked about how she would be "good" all week and then go crazy on the weekend.. until she started doing her current job..

She taught about the plates.. the "peace plate" with 40 % carb 40% fruits/veggies/ 20% protein.. She also advocated every day 80/20 "needs/wants".  Now that isn't to say eat all of your food and then your wants.. but she did say that in a healthty eating program there are room for "wants" to the extent of 20%.. You have to adjuster your "needs" down for that day.. most likely by redicing a carb/bread to make up for the want. Although I presonally am not following an eating plan like that right now.. I do see the value of it.. Allowing yourself something you "want" every day would seem to me a good way to avoid "want binges".. Of course everyone needs to know their danger food... and certain there is no reason for a single person to need 2 dozen cookies in the house.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 16, 2012, 11:23:58 AM
Good points all around. I like the idea of learning to balance needs and wants, and I think doing WW has helped me do that - trading more activity for a "treat" or choosing between two treats but not having both. For me, making a plan to be successful from here out and not just "on a diet" means being able to look at a plate of cookies and take just one. I know I won't be able to remove temptation forever or in every setting - some will always be out of my control. I don't want my choices to isolate me from others, and I love to enjoy food and celebrations with others, so being able to manage it in a healthy way is important to me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: meredith on December 16, 2012, 12:36:50 PM
I have no problem, if the cookies are packaged straight up and wrapped as gifts, I would not unwrap them. It is when they are just hanging out that i will eat them :D I brought all our extra cake pops to DD's school this week, otherwise we would have all eaten them, one a day, per person, til they were gone.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 16, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
OMG
WHY AM I POSTING AS MEREDITH? And why did j post in all caps?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on December 16, 2012, 08:49:57 PM
OMG
WHY AM I POSTING AS MEREDITH? And why did j post in all caps?

IT FEELS GOOD, DOESN'T IT!  SO EXPRESSIVE! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 16, 2012, 08:50:24 PM
IT FEELS GOOD, DOESN'T IT!  SO EXPRESSIVE! 

 :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 16, 2012, 09:08:59 PM
IT FEELS GOOD, DOESN'T IT!  SO EXPRESSIVE!
  :D I am on the kindle which I rarely ever use to.post tron and it has autocorrect and puts punctuation in silly Milly. Lol
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on December 16, 2012, 09:30:04 PM
Good points all around. I like the idea of learning to balance needs and wants, and I think doing WW has helped me do that - trading more activity for a "treat" or choosing between two treats but not having both. For me, making a plan to be successful from here out and not just "on a diet" means being able to look at a plate of cookies and take just one. I know I won't be able to remove temptation forever or in every setting - some will always be out of my control. I don't want my choices to isolate me from others, and I love to enjoy food and celebrations with others, so being able to manage it in a healthy way is important to me.

You definitely have to figure out what works for you, and what your low value items are. For me, it's about making trade offs. For example, I could live on pasta, bread, beans, and all things sweet. In fact, I did for a long time. But I get chubby on that kind of diet.

I haven't given up pasta completely. But, if I eat pasta I eat 1 cup of pasta with several cups of steamed veg, sauce, and a modest amount of cheese (2 measured table spoons). I also eat a huge salad with it. I get to have pasta and I enjoy it and I don't feel deprived at all. So, that is one kind of moderation.

Another thing is realizing that I don't really like most baked goods and they aren't worth it. Eating a cookie is likely to set off a food sugar spiral that will affect me for the rest of the day. Also, once I go for one cookie, it's too easy to go back for more. So, for me, eating that cookie is a pretty big splurge. So, 99% of the time, I avoid the cookie. Honestly, I don't miss them when I'm really good about not eating sugar. If I let it sneak back in, I think about it crave it, and it's a problem for me.

So, for me, instead of eating the occassional cookie, or the occassional bag of chips, or other stuff that's just not that important... I'd rather be able to eat a splurgy meal at a restaurant with a friend. 2 meals/week is about 10% of your meal consumption. I try to eat within plan for all but 2 meals or so a week and that seems to work out ok. It helps me keep in mind that eating lunch out, or that bag of chips, or that bagel that someone brought in is one of my splurgy meals. That might be fine, but if I already have stuff planned... I'm not going to "waste it" that way.

Also, a lot of is habitual. If I'm on plan and eating 6 small meals a day of limitted variety... I'm happy, satisfied, not craving other stuff, not hating my "diet", and it also helps me make good choices when I *do* go out (because I'm used to eating smaller portions and can really only handle a few bites of the really rich stuff).

But, it's all about what works for you. Orza had great success doing that french version of atkins. I tried it and gained weight in the couple of days I was on it and was craving things like mad. The plan I'm doing now works really well for me and I never feel deprived... but others didn't like it. It's all about finding the right balance for you!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on December 17, 2012, 08:58:42 AM
Yes, find what works for you!  And be prepared to change and adapt.   What worked for me 10 years ago (or even 2 years ago) doesn't work for me now. 

I'm making the transition to a vegan lifestyle, and it's really helped with weight fluctuations.  Last weekend, eating some meat, cheese, and dairy I gained 4 pounds of water over the weekend.  Other weekends I've gained up to 7 pounds.  This weekend I only gained a half-pound, and that may have been premenstrual.  I'm also having fewer premenstrual symptoms (due to increase in soy?)  So for this time of my life, the vegan plan is working. 

I'm not a perfect vegan.  I still have skim milk in my coffee.  I just can't handle it black, or -horrors- doing without coffee entirely.  I had some sushi and a few strips of bacon on Friday.  And when I go on vacation, I probably will eat whatever I want. 

I don't throw out cookies, but I convince myself they're not mine.  They're my husband's. They're my step daughter's, they don't belong to me so I can't eat them. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 17, 2012, 09:28:37 AM
The Silk plain, unsweetened soy milk is what DH uses in his coffee, they also make soy and coconut based creamers as well.

I am 99.9% vegan, but last night ate some phyllo pizza and of course cookies :D going to package them up today and maybe the mailman will stop by today and i can give him some :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 17, 2012, 09:42:54 AM
The Silk plain, unsweetened soy milk is what DH uses in his coffee, they also make soy and coconut based creamers as well.

I am 99.9% vegan, but last night ate some phyllo pizza and of course cookies :D going to package them up today and maybe the mailman will stop by today and i can give him some :D

Mine were already out the door today :).. I was so tempted to eat more last night while watching the game but I had way too many while tasting at your house!  Thanks for a great time.. it was so fun and all of the kids were so great!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 17, 2012, 09:46:44 AM
Mine were already out the door today :).. I was so tempted to eat more last night while watching the game but I had way too many while tasting at your house!  Thanks for a great time.. it was so fun and all of the kids were so great!!
except my DH was convinced there was going to be ER trips for some of the kids. He is a worry wart :D Debating if i should go out and run errands or hide inside until i pick up DD this afternoon. It is so cold and wet out, but i wanted to hit up TJ Maxx. Meh. May just hide inside. But i wanted to get a big tin for the cookies, but i may just make a basket and wrap it up for DH's work. Today will probably be my last run for two weeks, I really cannot run when DD is home and winter break starts tomorrow at noon :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 17, 2012, 10:41:38 AM
except my DH was convinced there was going to be ER trips for some of the kids. He is a worry wart :D Debating if i should go out and run errands or hide inside until i pick up DD this afternoon. It is so cold and wet out, but i wanted to hit up TJ Maxx. Meh. May just hide inside. But i wanted to get a big tin for the cookies, but i may just make a basket and wrap it up for DH's work. Today will probably be my last run for two weeks, I really cannot run when DD is home and winter break starts tomorrow at noon :(

Yeah.. that one boy fell a million times!  Some times I think no running for two weeks is a good break.. A mental break of always feeling like you have to do something... and then you come back refreshed.

I am so totally exhausted today... Stayed up for the entire Pats game and then up at 5:45 for my personal training session this morning... I think I'm going to fall asleep at my desk.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 17, 2012, 11:24:13 AM
you must be exhausted. I forced myself on the TM and just walked, but better than the lay on the couch and watch tv i was about to do. I am going to spend the rest of the day wrapping gifts and just relaxing. I am just exhausted. my period sucks. They have not all sucked lately, but this one does. And icky days make me lazy. AND i was moving the TM and dropped it on my toe! another reaosn i just walked.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 17, 2012, 12:21:33 PM
you must be exhausted. I forced myself on the TM and just walked, but better than the lay on the couch and watch tv i was about to do. I am going to spend the rest of the day wrapping gifts and just relaxing. I am just exhausted. my period sucks. They have not all sucked lately, but this one does. And icky days make me lazy. AND i was moving the TM and dropped it on my toe! another reaosn i just walked.

OMG.. Yes.. I am so exhausted.  I've been up late every single night for the past week.. Have to stop this!  I am going to make myself stop at the gym on the way home for a little bit just so I can say I did something since I didn't get there early enough to get any cardio done today.  I think I am going to go take a nap in my car during lunch!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on December 17, 2012, 05:35:21 PM
Frankly, any home-baked cookies I receive always get thrown out ASAP.  I do not need temptation in the house.

Send them to ME!!! I love cookies!  Sadly, I am willing to eat cookies instead of real dinner.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 17, 2012, 05:47:50 PM
Why is that sad?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on December 17, 2012, 05:56:24 PM
Why is that sad?

Well, in theory, I ought to care more about my health than to eat something with no nutritional value whatsoever and call it a meal.

On that other hand, how much worse for you are cookies than, say, a grilled cheese sandwich?  (Even if it is gouda on French bread using real butter...)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 17, 2012, 06:10:45 PM
I may have had cookies for bfast.... They are all boxed up nicely now though and sealed :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on December 17, 2012, 08:20:43 PM
I AM SO SORE!

Yesterday afternoon we had a Chanukah party with some friends and their kids.  We had like 20 people here and I put out mostly healthy food:
fruit salad
teetime's cabbage slaw with carrot-ginger dressing (so, so good)
crudite
apple sauce for the latkes
nuts

I MADE ABOUT 100 LATKES. Plus I put 2 zucchinis through the shredding blade on the food processor, added a small bit of the potato mixture and potato starch flour (we used it in our latkes to make them GF) and some spices & eggs and I made patties out of them too.

Since I didn't use my arm for nearly 2 weeks and am just now allowed to use it a bit, the whole right side of my body is crazy sore from all the cleaning, prepping and latke flipping.  I hurt.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on December 18, 2012, 09:27:31 AM
Send me latkes!  Yum!

I'm +2 today, more TOM that party-related. 

Now I have an unhappy problem.  I've already taken the suit pants I'm wearing today in once.  They are now so baggy I'm worried they'll slip off my hips.  Do I buy new suit pants now?  I'm still 20 pounds from my goal weight.  But given the slow progress I've made this year, I don't anticipate getting to my goal weight until May.  That's 6 months in increasingly baggy pants!  I think I've answered my own question.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 18, 2012, 11:27:59 AM
Yup. I think if you can find one or two inexpensive pieces that can help you transition, it is worth buying a couple of basics - I have black pants in almost every size, for example.  ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on December 18, 2012, 04:44:23 PM
yup :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 19, 2012, 04:39:32 PM
diablita, how ar eyou feeling now? thinking of latkes with dinner tonight. Stacy pita chips are made with crack.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 19, 2012, 05:16:33 PM
I'm pretty excited.. My nutritionist has upped my calories 200 a day, adding a carb at dinner (I currently only have one carb at dinner once a week) for the next two weeks.  It's to maintain for two weeks since I'm kind of plateued and then take away like 3-400 calories starting January 2nd and kick start another round of hopefully weight loss.  I just signed up for a half in april which I'd like to run and train pretty hard for to see how much I can improve from my 1:55 with a few pounds off.. but it's nice to have a little extra leeway over the next 2 weeks... beer=carb right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 19, 2012, 05:32:42 PM
Nice! I'm thinking about a nutritionist after the baby - we'll see. How did you find yours?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 19, 2012, 05:56:50 PM
Nice! I'm thinking about a nutritionist after the baby - we'll see. How did you find yours?

I actually worked with him when I lived in Maine he worked out of the gym I went to and I really leaned out. Now that I live in pa it's actually pretty easy to just work with him on line and we have a phone conference once a week
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 19, 2012, 05:58:49 PM
Oh, cool! The clinic I go to has a weight management program, but it's basically a liquid diet at first, and very, very $$$$.  :-\ I may just go back to WW.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on December 19, 2012, 06:10:08 PM
I am going to try to make the recipe in the vegan thread that involves the pasta and black beans and artichokes.  Will have to run to the store for canned tomatoes, green onions, and cayenne.  Believe it or not, I actually have black beans and artichokes in my pantry.  (I'm not sure how that happened, but I have them...)

Will probably pick up some spinach too.  Not sure if I will serve any or not, but I need some anyway.

I have a guinea pig coming over tonight to eat with test it with me.  :D  Maybe I should pick up some milk in case we end up needing to eat cereal for dinner instead.

Well, poo.  He doesn't feel well.  So I will probably skip the trip to the store and not cook after all.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on December 20, 2012, 09:57:27 AM
There's a huge buffet of pastries downstairs.  Luckily I'm lazier than I am greedy, but still... >:(  Don't they know I have a weigh-in tomorrow?   >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 20, 2012, 01:14:35 PM
We just got a big box of Enstrom's toffee.   :nono:

That shit is like crack, I swear. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on December 20, 2012, 02:28:44 PM
so, food has been really terrible, despite my best intentions. Blerg. I've been working out a lot though, so that is good.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 27, 2012, 08:02:15 AM
I have eaten like there's no tomorrow. I dread getting on the scale in the morning.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 27, 2012, 08:14:58 AM
Oh yeah. I attempted to track up to about Monday, but after a family celebration on Sunday and the start of the Christmas debauchery on Monday, it was already getting scary to see the numbers, so I stopped!  :D

The saving grace will be that I did go for a swim (!) on Monday with my sister at her gym, and that mr. cgraz and I got lost when we went out for a run on Christmas Day and ended up doing 4.5 miles instead of 3. Doh!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 27, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
Holy crap, the food fest continues around here until Saturday night, at least. My in-laws leave sometime on Sunday and then things can get back to normal. It's also in the 20s outside right now.  :o I know for a lot of you, that's nothing, but around here, that's COLD. I just don't have cold-weather workout gear for anything that cold.  :snowball: I'm off work, so I may go for a walk later if/when it warms up, or I may do some yoga or something.

Or, I might go see Les Miz and eat a cheeseburger. :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on December 27, 2012, 09:09:14 AM
MOS, the nutritionist sounds great.  I'd be choosing pasta instead of beer (I'm a pastaholic). :)


diablita, how ar eyou feeling now? thinking of latkes with dinner tonight. Stacy pita chips are made with crack.

I'm doing pretty good, thanks.  Down to just a small covering over the graft and the incision from the origin site is healing nicely.  I'm heading out for a trail run in a bit. :w00t:  (I'll have to stay on service roads for a little while longer though; can't risk falling on single track.)  For the long-term stuff I need to find a place that does derm body photography (may have to travel to Charlotte for this) and a therapist.  But I'm good for now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 27, 2012, 10:33:17 AM
What is body derm photography?  A good friend of mine has had some scary/crazy skin cancer bouts as well, and I wonder if she has done this? 

Eating over the weekend wasn't awful, but that is mostly becasue we just stayed at home.  This weekend is our christmas with DH's family, and to call it a food fest would be an understatement.  GAH.  I'm going to take solace in the fact that lots of it is stuff I can't eat (gluten).  :D  However, there is no gluten in potato chips and chocolate, so I'm probably screwed. 

I'm in charge of breakfasts on saturday and sunday mornings.  I am looking for new ideas.  But they aren't exactly willing to try new things, so I'll probably do a variation on an egg casseroley dish and monkey bread, like usual. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 27, 2012, 12:45:12 PM
Stomach bug, third day, up two pounds. Body why do you hate me?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on December 27, 2012, 04:06:02 PM
Courtney, they take pics close-up of your whole body and all the marks on it so that you have a baseline.  Then as you go to your derm screenings, they can compare the worrisome ones to the picture to see if they're changing.


Oh no, meri.  I'm sorry about the stomach bug AND wtf is your scale thinking???
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 27, 2012, 04:26:36 PM
Wow, it makes so much sense to do the pictures - I'm surprised more dermatologists don't do that. I always wonder about it when I do my yearly check - like how will she know if something on my back looks any different as compared to last time. Because I won't really know, unless it is irritated or otherwise bothering me. Glad you're doing well, and hope all the follow-up continues to go well too.

Sorry to hear about the stomach bug, meri. Hope you're feeling better soon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on December 27, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
Courtney, they take pics close-up of your whole body and all the marks on it so that you have a baseline.  Then as you go to your derm screenings, they can compare the worrisome ones to the picture to see if they're changing.


Oh no, meri.  I'm sorry about the stomach bug AND wtf is your scale thinking???

That makes sense!  My DH has LOTS of moles, so I often wonder if either of us would notice if one changed. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on December 27, 2012, 05:09:23 PM
I'm surprised it's not more popular, too.  It's probably a cost-of-doing-business thing, but more customers would make it more cost-effective.

When you have enough of a family/personal history to warrant frequent screenings and a lot of things look suspicious, they take a lot of 'bites' which can leave you quite cut up.  The pics allow the derms to take a slightly less aggressive approach, hopefully saving some skin that's not actually needing removal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 28, 2012, 08:45:52 AM
Yeah, with digital cameras now, I would think it would cost less, too. It's something worth keeping in mind - I could even have mr. cgraz take pics of my back or something, just so we have a comparison ourselves.

So it's weigh-in day...up 3.2 lbs from last week. So that includes a family dinner on Sunday, Christmas Eve, and Christmas Day. And the day we drove home was kind of a bad food day, too. Considering just the amount of sopressata, cheese, and wine that I consumed, I'm surprised it wasn't more! Not even counting the meals and desserts...yikes. So I guess it could have been worse. Back on track now!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 28, 2012, 09:20:17 AM
Weeks like that always managed to get me, cgraz, no matter how "good" I tried to be. Great job on being honest with yourself and getting back on track!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 28, 2012, 09:26:33 AM
Yup, and I didn't try that hard to be good, too.  :D I love that kind of food too much to sit idly by while noshing is going on. I did try to keep it within reason, stop when I was satisfied, and to consciously enjoy all of it, rather than just mindlessly stuffing my face. With three days of celebratory eating and drinking, I knew it would be a gain of some kind.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 28, 2012, 09:47:45 AM
I'm the same way - I love that kind of food. Forcing myself to eat carrot sticks instead of cheese and potato casserole would kill me. However, I have learned that I don't need *all* the cheese and potato casserole.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 28, 2012, 10:02:14 AM
Exactly. I might love the Pioneer Woman's twice-baked potatoes, as made by my sister for our Christmas Day dinner, but I can do with one of them (which I cut into small bites, savor, and save for my last bite!), and not two or three.  :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on December 28, 2012, 10:02:48 AM
I'm going to need to go look up that recipe now.... :D
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Post by: cgraz on December 28, 2012, 10:03:28 AM
Don't do it! You'll wish you never knew...and I don't want to be responsible!
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Post by: debbatx on December 28, 2012, 10:12:09 AM
LOL!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on December 28, 2012, 08:29:41 PM
Yeah, I am so off track right now. I'm going to get back on track next week. I need to eat out less, make better choices, eat fewer sweets, etc, etc, etc. Blerg.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on December 30, 2012, 09:06:05 AM
Yesterday was my first day back on track.  I had 1600 calories (all of them healthy except the 300 of beer -- oops), and did a 4 mile run and a 1 round trip walk to the bar. 

Now let's see if I can rack up 2 good days in a row.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on December 30, 2012, 11:28:36 AM
I have been totally off track for such a long time that the Holidays actually made it easy to get back on the wagon.  This whole week I have stuck with very simple meals of protein, veggie and rice or sweet potato. My snacks at work apple with peanut butter. I don't even want to think about eating sweets, stuffing, or rich foods.
Blerg
  :o

I feel better this week after eating simple whole foods. I also managed to get exercise every morning since Thursday. Hopefully I will be able to hang on the trend!!
I have step class this morning, and I usually enjoy it. It is fun and goes by quickly so it is a great way to get the blood pumping in the am. For the rest of the day I am going to prune my roses back. 
We have friends coming up for Sunday dinner (simple fare again!) and game night tonight.

Also, I signed up for a class through the experimental college that I think will be a fun challenge. It is called Eskrima. (filipino stick fighting!!) I am very excited about it. It starts the 26th of January...it is supposed to be for all ages, fitness and non experience needed. 




Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 30, 2012, 11:30:51 AM
Sounds like you're on a roll with the good stuff. :) Can't wait to hear more about that class! It sounds really interesting. Trying something new is a great way to get motivated and energized.
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Post by: diablita on December 30, 2012, 12:41:34 PM
Sounds like you're on a roll with the good stuff. :) Can't wait to hear more about that class! It sounds really interesting. Trying something new is a great way to get motivated and energized.

1!  My DH goes to an MMA class that includes Escrima.  He really enjoys that part.  "esgrima" is Spanish for fencing, I'd guess that's where the Philipino word comes from.
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Post by: Run Amok on December 30, 2012, 01:38:46 PM
Nice work, Mouse! I'm looking forward to returning to routine. I think. Sort of. I need to run today though! It's a beautiful sunny day out there.
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Post by: merigayle on December 30, 2012, 02:27:20 PM
Cannot wait to get back to our routine!
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on December 30, 2012, 03:20:31 PM
I'm quite proud of myself that I ran outside the past two days.  Yesterday in a snow storm and today in 32 degrees with 25 mph winds.  Normally I would find a reason to blow both of those runs off
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Post by: merigayle on December 30, 2012, 03:48:24 PM
Wtg! The wind is fierce today!
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Post by: Run Amok on January 01, 2013, 12:16:55 AM
Ugh. For reals this time... back on track NOW. My running tights are bulgy in places they weren't before.

Today was what I'm going to call a 70% day. Hot cereal & stewed prunes (sounds yucky but actually YUM!) for breakfast, lentil soup and an apple for lunch, cookies and peanut brittle for a snack (30% naughty), 5 mile run, soup, garlic toast (whole grain bread and a tiny bit of butter and a tiny bit of cheese) and 1/2 a fieldroast sausage for dinner. Tea now.

I haven't been running much but have been working out 6 days/week. BUT I've also been eating out way too much.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 01, 2013, 12:39:08 AM
Happy new year!

I have just eaten my face off...chicken parm, several glasses of red wine, many rolls hot from the oven...prosecco with Chambord, apple pie, ice cream...

Tomorrow is a new day!
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on January 01, 2013, 12:24:37 PM
Yesterday I had two slices of pie, and then spent all night being miserably guilty about it. I don't know wtf is wrong with me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 01, 2013, 01:05:12 PM
Only feel guilty if each slice was half the pie. Otherwise, what's done is done. No guilt, move on!

(says the lady who just ate cold pizza leftovers for lunch)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 01, 2013, 02:41:21 PM
Sooo hard when home all day. I was giving DD some coconut ice cream and i was literally drooling/mouth watering. I did not even lick the spoon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 01, 2013, 03:08:09 PM
Absolutely - no beating ourselves up over what's done. Just focus on making better choices now that all the holiday temptations are past. Good times ahead.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 02, 2013, 12:12:02 AM
Back on the wagon tomorrow, for sure. I'm just giong to keep saying that until it happens.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 02, 2013, 09:20:25 AM
I heard this piece this morning on NPR - thought it was really interesting. Clearly I'm not losing weight right now, but still... come June or so, I'm going to keep this in mind!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/01/02/168371575/can-skinny-models-undermine-your-dieting-goals (http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/01/02/168371575/can-skinny-models-undermine-your-dieting-goals)
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Post by: merigayle on January 02, 2013, 10:44:25 AM
I heard this piece this morning on NPR - thought it was really interesting. Clearly I'm not losing weight right now, but still... come June or so, I'm going to keep this in mind!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/01/02/168371575/can-skinny-models-undermine-your-dieting-goals (http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/01/02/168371575/can-skinny-models-undermine-your-dieting-goals)
wow
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Post by: debbatx on January 02, 2013, 10:55:26 AM
Yeah, it was really interesting.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 02, 2013, 11:39:14 AM
11:30 and i ate my lunch :( eating healthy, for me, is hard to not be hungry. Breakfast, as usual, is the hardest meal and i am always hungry early on. I need to just buck up and eat lunch/dinner foods for breakfast, i think it will keep me fuller longer. I had a bit of oatmeal and actually a slice of baked tofu, but that was 3-4 hours ago.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 02, 2013, 11:47:33 AM
Yeah, I need to improve my breakfasts, too. Not right this second, though - too much going on. I'll think on it this month and try to come up with a plan for Feb, maybe.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 02, 2013, 12:50:31 PM
I heard that piece this morning, too.
So as expected I'm feeling overfed today.  I was pretty good overall (but still eating a bit more than normal) until NYE/NY Day when I just snacked on little things all day that added up.

On my way home from dropping DD at school, I swung into Earth Fare and picked up a package of snow peas and a bunch of juicy fruit (e.g., oranges, strawberries).  I know my body will want me to graze today so I'll mostly snack on the snow peas plus some of the lighter fruit and then tomorrow I can start to bring my calories back down to where I want them for weight loss.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 02, 2013, 02:30:06 PM
I'm still hungry.  I knew this would happen: I had a Rudi's bagel flatz w/ a slice of cheese for breakfast, a ton of snow peas and a light string cheese.  My body's just going to have to suffer today.
I may post a lot in this thread to take my mind off.  :>D:
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Post by: Courtney on January 02, 2013, 03:03:53 PM
:D

I hear ya, D.  I had a baked potato and about 1/3 of a Wendy's chili for lunch.  I'll be hungry in like 30 min. 
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Post by: triciaflower on January 02, 2013, 03:06:12 PM
I just made me a big plate of bean and cheese nachos.  :drooling-5:
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Post by: diablita on January 02, 2013, 03:15:14 PM
:) Courtney.  Misery loves company.

oops, didn't actually mention lunch:

(http://www.amys.com/images/uploads/products/large/000064.jpg)

I love this line of frozen dinners for days when I squeeze a run/lifting on my lunch break and don't have time to prepare more.  But today, the calories aren't cutting it.  LOL.
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Post by: diablita on January 02, 2013, 03:15:37 PM
and I'm so grateful I can't swipe any of Tricia's nachos.
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Post by: merigayle on January 02, 2013, 03:24:44 PM
Mmmmmm nachos. What were we talking about? Lol
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Post by: diablita on January 02, 2013, 03:25:16 PM
 :D :D
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Post by: cgraz on January 02, 2013, 03:34:07 PM
Did someone say nachos?

I had leftover chicken parm from NYE for lunch. It was just a small portion and I felt it was my duty to eat it up so it did not go to waste. Now that's done, thank goodness.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on January 02, 2013, 03:52:39 PM
Leftover black bean and artichoke pasta from the vegan thread.  And a vanilla yogurt for dessert.  And a Coke.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 02, 2013, 04:02:50 PM
Naaaaaachos!!!!

And I was only up a pound and a half at my checkup today, so yay!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 02, 2013, 04:21:34 PM
yay is right!  I ate an entire package of snow peas and now I'm not feeling so good.
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Post by: cgraz on January 02, 2013, 04:54:05 PM
Ohhhhh, that's a lotta fiber.
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Post by: debbatx on January 02, 2013, 04:55:26 PM
Yeah, that's a lot of snow peas. I love them, but  :o
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 02, 2013, 05:31:04 PM
I like the Amy's Mexican frozen entrees also.  They are great for emergency lunches.

Right now I am on a Kefir kick.  I have been taking probiotics for a long time, and I have seen a difference in my health. My hair is thicker and healthier than I can remember. My digestive health seems to do better also. I have ibd-constipation variety and probiotics have really helped with it. I also have noticed a relationship between flare ups and when I eat breads etc.  so I have been trying to manage my wheat intake to the bare minimum....which sucks because I love a good bread.  I started drinking kefir a week ago, and am trying to have a fresh glass every morning (in addition to my probiotics) to see if this will help with my digestion, etc.  DH drank a whole container of it the other day, and was then horrified to learn that each cup has 240 calories!

I am 8 for 8 on exercise days. I feel much better. Also have been eating better...for me the two are intrinsically linked. My goal is to do some kind of exercise every am...walk run swim or lift.... And no wine in work nights. 

Now I want nachos.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 02, 2013, 05:34:00 PM
Back to work tomorrow, so back to a more regular schedule. Whew. Contemplating getting up and doing yoga in the morning. It's going to be COLD, though!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 02, 2013, 05:43:35 PM
Back to work tomorrow, so back to a more regular schedule. Whew. Contemplating getting up and doing yoga in the morning. It's going to be COLD, though!!
can you get up and turn the heat on, go back to bed, then get up in a hour and do warm yoga??  Cus that is totally what I would do!!!
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Post by: debbatx on January 02, 2013, 06:04:09 PM
I'd have to get up at 4 to turn on the heat - have to get up at 5 to do yoga. The real issue is that there's no vent in our bathroom, which is where I'll be yoga-ing, so it's always colder (or hotter) than the rest of the house.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 02, 2013, 06:25:48 PM
So I haven't been posting in this thread much because I haven't been eating healthy or doing much activity but I am turning over a new leaf.

We are determined to get back into proper running shape and I need to drop some weight. I am not far off of what I was when I first joined WW years ago. :(
Today we went shopping and I bought chicken breasts, a bunch of healthy soups, and a ton of veggies and fruit. Hopefully that will keep us on track!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 02, 2013, 06:32:45 PM
I'd have to get up at 4 to turn on the heat - have to get up at 5 to do yoga. The real issue is that there's no vent in our bathroom, which is where I'll be yoga-ing, so it's always colder (or hotter) than the rest of the house.
your bathroom must be large!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 02, 2013, 06:34:03 PM
So I haven't been posting in this thread much because I haven't been eating healthy or doing much activity but I am turning over a new leaf.

We are determined to get back into proper running shape and I need to drop some weight. I am not far off of what I was when I first joined WW years ago. :(
Today we went shopping and I bought chicken breasts, a bunch of healthy soups, and a ton of veggies and fruit. Hopefully that will keep us on track!
you can totally do this, mm.  You have done it before. When do you do your exercise? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 02, 2013, 06:37:11 PM
your bathroom must be large!

1! I could not do so much as a downward dog in my bathroom! Would an inexpensive space heater help take the chill off? Whatever small steps can set you up for success in following through on your plans, might be worth it.

And MM, good to see you back. Shopping for healthy food is a great start to change things again.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 02, 2013, 06:49:49 PM
you can totally do this, mm.  You have done it before. When do you do your exercise? 

Mostly after work. I suck very badly at getting up early. I may start running at work so I can be done before I come home.
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Post by: debbatx on January 02, 2013, 09:22:03 PM
It's not that big - there's *just* enough space from the door to the counter to fit in my yoga mat, and that's about it. I'll probably crack my head on the counter or the doorknob at some point. :D

A space heater might be a good idea - thanks!
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Post by: merigayle on January 03, 2013, 07:58:25 AM
chickpea salad for breakfast :D
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Post by: diablita on January 03, 2013, 09:11:20 AM
Good morning.  I stopped by the market on my way home from dropping DD off for another bag of snow peas.  I'll never be able to eat them again.  :D

I didn't even go crazy at all over the holidays but I did snack more often and often my meals were just a bit larger than usual.  I already feel better today after being much better about my eating yesterday.
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Post by: merigayle on January 03, 2013, 09:19:38 AM
i used to eat so many carrots my hands and feet turned orange :D
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Post by: debbatx on January 03, 2013, 09:29:22 AM
Back to work today, which means back to a more normal eating pattern instead of grazing all day. DH is home and not feeling well. Whatever it is, I really hope it's stress-related (don't I sound awful?) and not contagious. Ugh.
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Post by: merigayle on January 03, 2013, 09:39:14 AM
Back to work today, which means back to a more normal eating pattern instead of grazing all day. DH is home and not feeling well. Whatever it is, I really hope it's stress-related (don't I sound awful?) and not contagious. Ugh.
not awful!!!
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Post by: diablita on January 03, 2013, 09:44:39 AM
yup.  I get it.
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Post by: debbatx on January 03, 2013, 09:57:58 AM
I just really don't want to get sick, especially not with what could be a stomach virus. And I REALLY don't want Reid to get it.
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Post by: rocketgirl on January 03, 2013, 01:22:45 PM
I just really don't want to get sick, especially not with what could be a stomach virus. And I REALLY don't want Reid to get it.

It really could be stress.  I've been known to throw up on a Sunday night and it has totally had to do with going to work on Monday morning.
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Post by: debbatx on January 03, 2013, 02:26:16 PM
Yeah, and DH has a digestive system that reacts badly to stress, for sure.
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Post by: diablita on January 03, 2013, 04:39:08 PM
How's he doing this afternoon?  How are you?
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Post by: debbatx on January 03, 2013, 05:08:32 PM
Not sure - he was taking a nap earlier, and he just emailed me about something, so he must be awake, but I don't have a health report. I'm doing fine - just sleepy, which is normal for this time of day. :) I don't want to go to the gym tonight, either, but that's just me being lazy.
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Post by: merigayle on January 03, 2013, 06:42:50 PM
so first day with sitter went well. whew.

anywho, forgot to mention i was down a pound this morning!!!!!!!
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Post by: diablita on January 03, 2013, 08:36:31 PM
yay for both!
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Post by: debbatx on January 03, 2013, 08:50:04 PM
Yay, meri!

DH is tired, but seems to be okay. No fever. Just some digestive issues today.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 04, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
Yay Meri!

Deb...I guess that means stress and not sick...which is good for you and Reid. Bummer for the DH tho.  Stress sucks.

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Post by: debbatx on January 04, 2013, 01:26:41 PM
Yeah, that's what it's looking like. Or a virus that Reid and I are immune to. I wish I could help him with his stress, but part of me thinks he gets a rush from it, because he refuses to do anything about it. Oh well!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 04, 2013, 01:27:42 PM
Yeah, that's what it's looking like. Or a virus that Reid and I are immune to. I wish I could help him with his stress, but part of me thinks he gets a rush from it, because he refuses to do anything about it. Oh well!
or he is just male :D
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Post by: debbatx on January 04, 2013, 01:37:17 PM
Yeah, that's definitely part of it!
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Post by: triciaflower on January 04, 2013, 01:56:11 PM
I bought a tagine yesterday and I'm so excited to use it. I unearthed a couple of old threads to help me get over my paranoia about cracking it.  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 04, 2013, 04:25:11 PM
Debba- tagged you on something on pinterest.

So i have this patient who comes in every month and she came in today. She is probably about 10 lbs overweight. She runs and horseback rides. Well, she is telling me that she has no appetite and if she eats under 2400 cals/day she feels like crap.  :e) I was like, wow. I did not say anything, but i was in my head, like, if i eat 2400 cals/day i would be HUGE! She must have an incredible metabolism. She has been seeing me for years and has maintained her weight. I think she is pretty average for her age (50?). But my jaw was just hitting the floor. She runs about 1 time a week :D
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Post by: debbatx on January 04, 2013, 04:53:44 PM
How would I find it??
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 04, 2013, 06:13:41 PM
I dunno, maybe in notifications?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 04, 2013, 06:55:00 PM
Where are the notifications??  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 04, 2013, 07:04:32 PM
here it is

http://www.gltc.co.uk/fcp/product/-/storage_tables_chairs_toy_boxes/Underbed-Play-Table-with-Drawers/10000002938 (http://www.gltc.co.uk/fcp/product/-/storage_tables_chairs_toy_boxes/Underbed-Play-Table-with-Drawers/10000002938)
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Post by: debbatx on January 04, 2013, 07:29:08 PM
Thanks! And very cool!
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Post by: merigayle on January 04, 2013, 08:04:37 PM
Since you said you are always pulling apart the track after playing with it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 05, 2013, 07:56:38 AM
I bought a tagine yesterday and I'm so excited to use it. I unearthed a couple of old threads to help me get over my paranoia about cracking it.  :panic:

So exciting! I don't know anything about using one or the dangers of cracking it, but I'm sure you'll do fine and have some fun playing with new recipes! Look forward to updates on the yummy things you make.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on January 05, 2013, 10:32:34 AM
I made a chicken stew with preserved lemons and olives. It was amazing! The chicken was moist and flavorful. I'm planning to make spareribs in there next or maybe a veggie stew.

Whoever said preserved lemons was like pledge was right but wrong. They're DELICIOUS!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 05, 2013, 10:37:16 AM
meri, I wanted to make a tvp recipe you've posted before (it's made in a pan w/ bbq sauce and then you grill it, I think?) but now can't find it.  Do you know which one I mean?  Mind linking me?
I tried looking for it on one of your Pinterest boards but man do you have a lot of pins! :)
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Post by: diablita on January 05, 2013, 10:38:42 AM
nevermind, just found it.  though it looks like it needs wheat gluten and not tvp.  I'm not sure where in the market to find vital wheat gluten?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 05, 2013, 10:43:39 AM
oh the vital wheat gluten ribz? yeah, it is a flour type product. In our market it is often with the flour or the organic bagged stuff like Bob's Red Mill, or in the organic baking section. In my local natural food store it is in with all the gluten free type flours.
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Post by: diablita on January 05, 2013, 11:06:31 AM
thanks!
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Post by: merigayle on January 06, 2013, 07:07:35 PM
anyone interested in buying a brand new, never used, vegetable spiraler? i have two.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 06, 2013, 07:30:37 PM
anyone interested in buying a brand new, never used, vegetable spiraler? i have two.
Yes!!!  I was just reading about using one for sewet potatoes or zucchini.  How much?
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Post by: diablita on January 06, 2013, 08:00:13 PM
eep.  I just bought one.  Why are you selling yours?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 06, 2013, 08:10:03 PM
I accidentally bought two and by the time I got around to returning it amazon said it was too late q
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Post by: Run Amok on January 07, 2013, 09:13:25 AM
You can often find vital wheat gluten in the bulk section of health food stores. Pretty sure WF will have it. It's basically just the gluten from flour. You can make seitan from flour but it's a very long process, as I recall.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 07, 2013, 09:31:47 AM
and if you need bread flour, you just add 1 tbs of vital wheat gluten to AP flour and you get bread flour ;) saved me some money the other day.

RA- -what was it that you put in your oatmeal to make it more filling? I forget.

Going ot hop on the TM for the first episode of BL if it is on hulu  :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 07, 2013, 09:40:17 AM
Wheat bran. I can't remember the proportions though... I think it's 50\50, but I'll check when I get home. Lately I've been making the i-diet hot cereal though, which is farro plus corn bran. That is also really filling, and also meets the 4:1 carb/protein ratio so I eat it after I run too.

This is the first totally back to normal week, so looking forward to getting back on track for real.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 07, 2013, 09:48:43 AM
Thanks!


 7 mins into BL and i am blubberin! Hormonal much?
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Post by: diablita on January 07, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
thanks, I found it at our regular grocery store and was pretty pleased!

I made the bbq seitan recipe from Pinterest and liked/not loved it but I didn't have the nutritional yeast and didn't grill (I broiled it) so I'll try again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 07, 2013, 01:56:49 PM
I broiled it too, we do not have a grill. I thought it was yummy. I wonder what you did not like about it. It is one of those dishes that even DH likes! HAHA.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 07, 2013, 02:56:33 PM
Meri, let me know how much money you want for the spiral dealie!  I'll paypal it to you :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 07, 2013, 03:55:56 PM
So, I'm back on my diet today. I did a terrible job of planning because I'm STARVING and craving sugar like crazy.  :( Normally this isn't an issue. I think it's because all of my meals are on the lighter side today. Wah.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 07, 2013, 04:25:21 PM
RA, that always sucks.  :( 

I'm doing a weight loss challenge with a variety of people, and the prize is $500.  Have I mentioned that?   :fingers: for me!  It's from Jan to June, so my guess is that whomever can be consistent for that long will win, easy. 

I'm doing so much reading right now, and based on some of my food allergy type issues, I'm looking, very hard, at a Paleo type program.  I don't think I could ever be 100%, but it sure makes sense for me based on what I read.  Giving up gluten was so good for my gut, and it seems like the lingering stuff is probably dairy related (sadly).  I gave up dairy for a week or so a while ago, to see, but it was before I was GF.  I should just suck it up and try again.  My friend was just diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease, and she and I had so many similar issues.  I'm seeing the same naturopath/RN as she is, and we are treating my thyroid.  But my friend was telling me that from what she knows, Hashimotos kind of comes on as a result of untreated food allergies (it may be more than this, I'm not sure), and they are treating it for her with a gluten free and dairy free diet.  She wonders if maybe I've just caught all of this before it turned into that for me (she's probably 5+ years older than me).  So anyhoo...  that's kind of what I'm looking at right now.  Not happily, but I'm considering it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 07, 2013, 04:25:50 PM
Oh, and for my meat eating friends, I wanted to share this recipe that I ran across, that sounds so good:

http://iowagirleats.com/2012/03/28/homemade-trader-joes-chili-lime-chicken-burgers/ (http://iowagirleats.com/2012/03/28/homemade-trader-joes-chili-lime-chicken-burgers/)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 07, 2013, 04:32:25 PM
Friends of ours have done paleo for a few years and they really love it - both for how they feel on it and for weight management. They just eat lots of fruits and veggies, and they do allow non-paleo days as warranted - we were at a party and they definitely partook of the cheesy dips and breads and pigs in blankets and stuff.

So that's the hard thing if you're doing it for reasons like you describe - after you do it for a while and start to feel better, then allowing yourself "cheats" would just make you feel like crap, probably.

But there are lots of resources out there for good paleo food, and when it comes down to it, it's really just stuff like grilling up some chicken and making veggies with it, having salad or fruit, etc. The trick is to keep the variety and to stay satisfied if you are a lover of stuff like cheese or sweets. (Which I am.) But even if you adapt it to your needs - like would you have to give up regular potatoes, or just grains, breads, etc. - you might really like it after you get used to it.

When mr. cgraz did a one-month strict paleo challenge (including exercising daily), he lost 30 pounds. It took me 6 months to lose 30 pounds on WW!

I have to say, eating even somewhat paleo when he was on it (because I prepared the meals for both of us) did leave me feeling less loagy and sluggish, in general. Now, whether it's a combination of eating well with WW and exercising more, or whatever, I do notice that eating carby bread stuff and sweets or lots of cheesy stuff makes me feel really tired and heavy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 07, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
Guys lose so fast, don't they?  Sheesh!! 

I need to get my DH more on board than he is right now.  He has a major sweet tooth, and it's hard to always be the one saying no to stuff, and then when I try to just pretend like we don't have any chocolate, it's SUPER HARD. 

I think the key for me, if I do attempt this, is to find variety.  Potatoes are tough.  I love them.  And they are the only carb that I really eat now with meals (no bread, no pasta, and I don't like rice), so it's a bit of a crutch.  Plus, my DH isn't a big fan of cooked veggies, so I feel like I'd need to make different meals for us, which ain't happening. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 07, 2013, 05:06:12 PM
Yeah, sounds like getting him on board will be key. Finding ways to make veggies so he will like them more, coming up with good paleo treats, etc. I know I have seen paleo brownie recipes and I think there are things made with cocoa powder that are paleo-friendly, so you can find ways to satisfy the desire for chocolate. I think lots of the Larabar flavors are paleo-friendly if you need snacks or energy bars, and there are tons of recipes out there to try. I know my friends have made muffins and things, so it's just a matter of experimenting. I am sure there's a lot of stuff on Pinterest too!

I think even if you try adapting paleo to your own needs, ie allowing yourself regular potatoes! - it could be good, right? I mean, there's only so many sweet potatoes one person can eat, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 07, 2013, 05:07:53 PM
I sure hope my Dr apt today gives me some help. I am super tired of my belly hurting every damn day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 07, 2013, 05:13:18 PM
I sure hope my Dr apt today gives me some help. I am super tired of my belly hurting every damn day.

I hope so, too, MM. 

Have you tried giving up certain foods?  It was crazy how fast I knew gluten was a problem when I went off it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 07, 2013, 05:14:09 PM
Yeah, sounds like getting him on board will be key. Finding ways to make veggies so he will like them more, coming up with good paleo treats, etc. I know I have seen paleo brownie recipes and I think there are things made with cocoa powder that are paleo-friendly, so you can find ways to satisfy the desire for chocolate. I think lots of the Larabar flavors are paleo-friendly if you need snacks or energy bars, and there are tons of recipes out there to try. I know my friends have made muffins and things, so it's just a matter of experimenting. I am sure there's a lot of stuff on Pinterest too!

I think even if you try adapting paleo to your own needs, ie allowing yourself regular potatoes! - it could be good, right? I mean, there's only so many sweet potatoes one person can eat, right?

Right?  :D  I need to just do some planning.  I got my temporary kitchen resituated a bit last night, so that cooking isn't as big of a PITA.  That should help. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 07, 2013, 06:20:55 PM
MM i hope you get some answers or closer to answers.

Courtney- one of my patients has hashimotos and was vegetarian already and giving up gluten mAde a huge difference for her, not so much any other dietry changes, but everythin is worth a try. Instead of going paleo, what about doing an elimination diet and really find the triggers than giving up so much? As far as DH, mine eats what i make or makes his own, i ain't a diner!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 07, 2013, 08:32:59 PM
I hope so, too, MM. 

Have you tried giving up certain foods?  It was crazy how fast I knew gluten was a problem when I went off it. 

So he suggested IBS (which I basically already knew) and suggested I try giving up dairy to see if it helped.  :( They are also testing me for gluten intolerance.

He also showed me this website but he prefaced it with the fact that he wasnt showing it to me as my Dr  :d:
http://www.notmilk.com/ (http://www.notmilk.com/)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on January 08, 2013, 01:35:33 AM
So he suggested IBS (which I basically already knew) and suggested I try giving up dairy to see if it helped.  :( They are also testing me for gluten intolerance.

He also showed me this website but he prefaced it with the fact that he wasnt showing it to me as my Dr  :d:
http://www.notmilk.com/ (http://www.notmilk.com/)

Why are you sad at giving up dairy?  There are plenty of good substitutes. I just bought a wonderful soy yogurt yesterday. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 08, 2013, 07:11:06 AM
WOW! I am impressed your dr showed you the notmilk site!!!!!! There really is not much good to come from dairy products. You can get calcium and protein elsewhere, imo. I am experimenting with cashew cheeses right now and so far everything has been tasty. Thinking about making DD a cashew cheese pizza tomorrow, or a block of it to put on crackers. Will report back :) There are so many substitutes out there now, that eating dairy free is not that bad and in CA, you have access to even more than we have here. The coconut milk based ice creams are amazingly delicious, though some brands are very high in calories, so just look. DD has been eating some almond milk yogurt and it is not bad when i taste it. You can also try goat's milk if you want, which some people can tolerate over cow's milk.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 08, 2013, 10:25:07 AM
MM i hope you get some answers or closer to answers.

Courtney- one of my patients has hashimotos and was vegetarian already and giving up gluten mAde a huge difference for her, not so much any other dietry changes, but everythin is worth a try. Instead of going paleo, what about doing an elimination diet and really find the triggers than giving up so much? As far as DH, mine eats what i make or makes his own, i ain't a diner!

I'm kind of considering that, more of a modified paleo thing.  Grains (wheat specifically, but that is pretty much all I ate) are not a big problem for me, it's the notion of giving up dairy that is the toughest.  I literally JUST read about cashew cheese yesterday, so I'm curious what you think.  I also wonder if maybe just cutting WAY back on it would work.  Because I'm not sure I want to live in a world entirely without cheese (or frozen yogurt).  :D 

I've also heard that about goat's milk...  which is good because I f-ing love goat cheese on stuff like pizza and salad.  Mmmmmm. 

Ice Cream, I know MM has a soy allergy/intolerance, so soy is most likely not doable for her. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 08, 2013, 11:13:24 AM
I would rather not give up dairy because I can't do soy and we can't do nuts so I would really lack options. And cheese is about my favorite food ever.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 08, 2013, 11:26:47 AM
MM- how was your appointment?

I'm not giving up dairy. I eat less of it these days as a weight control measure.

Most of the dairy alternatives seem to have very little in the way of nutrition. The coconut milk stuff, in particular, is all calories (carbs and fat) and is generally pretty highly processed.

I like nuts... but I eat them like 6 at a time.

So... I'm just really not a fan of the whole dairy alternative thing. When I was vegan, I just ate other stuff...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 08, 2013, 11:49:45 AM
I would rather not give up dairy because I can't do soy and we can't do nuts so I would really lack options. And cheese is about my favorite food ever.

I feel the same way. 

I avoid soy (not nazi like, but just don't ever purposely eat it) because I have a mild intolerance to it. 

I feel like without dairy, getting protein in a snack form is tough.  I'm not going to munch on a chicken breast for a snack.  It's not appetizing to me.  And nuts (why can't you do nuts?  are you allergic) really don't have that much protein in them, comparatively speaking.  Plus they are calorie dense, and I struggle with not eating a bunch in one setting. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 08, 2013, 12:35:26 PM
i make chickpea salad for snack. :D I am not very exciting. ANd soups. Soups are my go to snack lately.

I would try cutting out dairy totally then having it on occassion and see how your body reacts, if it reacts at all. I am hoping ot try another cashew cheeze recipe tomorrow, will keep you posted :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 08, 2013, 12:48:08 PM
I feel the same way. 

I avoid soy (not nazi like, but just don't ever purposely eat it) because I have a mild intolerance to it. 

I feel like without dairy, getting protein in a snack form is tough.  I'm not going to munch on a chicken breast for a snack.  It's not appetizing to me.  And nuts (why can't you do nuts?  are you allergic) really don't have that much protein in them, comparatively speaking.  Plus they are calorie dense, and I struggle with not eating a bunch in one setting. 

I can have nuts for snacks but I don't like them.  I can't use them in meals though because antag is allergic.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 08, 2013, 12:53:44 PM
My friend with Hashimotos who is vegetarian and recently went gluten free has a severe nut allergy as well! It must be tough for her. Not sure if she does soy or not. Next time i see her i will have to ask.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 08, 2013, 01:28:19 PM
I can have nuts for snacks but I don't like them.  I can't use them in meals though because antag is allergic.

Ah, gotcha.  Makes sense. 

I could eat peanut butter for every meal, so you know, nuts are probably a trigger food for me.  :D  I can't keep them around. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 08, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
My friend with Hashimotos who is vegetarian and recently went gluten free has a severe nut allergy as well! It must be tough for her. Not sure if she does soy or not. Next time i see her i will have to ask.

I like food way too much. That sounds horrific.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 08, 2013, 01:51:04 PM
And I just realized that if I tried to give up dairy I would no longer be able to have lattes. I don't know if I can give up my weekly coffee shop latte.  :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on January 08, 2013, 01:52:04 PM
RA, that always sucks.  :( 

I'm doing a weight loss challenge with a variety of people, and the prize is $500.  Have I mentioned that?   :fingers: for me!  It's from Jan to June, so my guess is that whomever can be consistent for that long will win, easy. 

I'm doing so much reading right now, and based on some of my food allergy type issues, I'm looking, very hard, at a Paleo type program.  I don't think I could ever be 100%, but it sure makes sense for me based on what I read.  Giving up gluten was so good for my gut, and it seems like the lingering stuff is probably dairy related (sadly).  I gave up dairy for a week or so a while ago, to see, but it was before I was GF.  I should just suck it up and try again.  My friend was just diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease, and she and I had so many similar issues.  I'm seeing the same naturopath/RN as she is, and we are treating my thyroid.  But my friend was telling me that from what she knows, Hashimotos kind of comes on as a result of untreated food allergies (it may be more than this, I'm not sure), and they are treating it for her with a gluten free and dairy free diet.  She wonders if maybe I've just caught all of this before it turned into that for me (she's probably 5+ years older than me).  So anyhoo...  that's kind of what I'm looking at right now.  Not happily, but I'm considering it.

Interesting Courtney.

Years (like 15) ago I developed really weird not fun mouth/throat sores. While less severe than in the past, they are still with me. No doctor ever diagnosed a cause. Despite no symptoms (no fatigue, weight gain, etc.) I was diagnosed with progressive hypothyroidism that I finally had to treat (TSH kept rising and my fertility doctor said it was time). Recently my mother (an MD) was reading about Celiac and called me. She is not one to recommend any restrictive dietary changes (esp. for me) but given my infertility and recognized thyroid issues, she insisted I attempt GF. So, I am.  So far, in the past two weeks, not one mouth sore?! I'll get tested for the antibodies during my next doctor's appt. (did not have them 15 years ago but only tested once).  Don't know if I would keep this up after a successful pregnancy (if lucky enough to have one) but it does seem that those with autoimmune issues can easily have more than one issue.

BTW, any gluten free resources you'd like to share would be most welcome.  We are doing a no sugar no flour post new years thing right now so it should be easy but I keep getting tricked.  Who knew soy sauce was a gluten bomb.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on January 08, 2013, 02:00:39 PM
I know it is faddy but I am another person who does feel better when they limit gluten.  I am allergic to almonds as well so most paleo baking recipes do not work for me.  I try and avoid other tree nuts now just in case.  I tested positive for the lupus antibody and a couple of other autoimmune things so it can't hurt to try to avoid foods that do not agree with me.  I am not giving up dairy but I mostly eat it cultured (kefir and yogurt) which seems ok for me. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 08, 2013, 02:10:09 PM
MM did the dr have any feedback on your tummy issues?

Another one who can eat gluten with no issues here. Dairy too. I do tend to feel better if I limit the fatty/rich foods though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 08, 2013, 02:43:12 PM
MM- you can always use rice milk or almond milk or hemp milk or coconut milk.

Teetiime- that is interesting. Have you had your full workup for autoimmune stuff with the RE? Have they ever tried low dose steroids through the transfer and beyond? Not just the medrol pack.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 08, 2013, 03:07:34 PM
Interesting Courtney.

Years (like 15) ago I developed really weird not fun mouth/throat sores. While less severe than in the past, they are still with me. No doctor ever diagnosed a cause. Despite no symptoms (no fatigue, weight gain, etc.) I was diagnosed with progressive hypothyroidism that I finally had to treat (TSH kept rising and my fertility doctor said it was time). Recently my mother (an MD) was reading about Celiac and called me. She is not one to recommend any restrictive dietary changes (esp. for me) but given my infertility and recognized thyroid issues, she insisted I attempt GF. So, I am.  So far, in the past two weeks, not one mouth sore?! I'll get tested for the antibodies during my next doctor's appt. (did not have them 15 years ago but only tested once).  Don't know if I would keep this up after a successful pregnancy (if lucky enough to have one) but it does seem that those with autoimmune issues can easily have more than one issue.

BTW, any gluten free resources you'd like to share would be most welcome.  We are doing a no sugar no flour post new years thing right now so it should be easy but I keep getting tricked.  Who knew soy sauce was a gluten bomb.

Gluten intolerance/celiac can manifest in all sorts of ways, and I could believe that it's what might be causing your mouth sores...  Be aware, that if you are being tested for the antibody for Celiac that you need to be eating gluten at the time, or the test isn't really valid (that's my understanding).  My RN asked if I wanted to do that test, and I opted out because I didn't want to start eating gluten again (it makes me feel that bad).  I figured whether or not I actually have Celiac is irrelevant, I can't tolerate gluten anyway.  I actually don't think I have celiac, because the potential for cross contamination at resturants, and even at home, is very possible and I don't get sick.  So I suspect mine is just an intolerance.  Anyhoo... 

Here's what I've learned about gluten in foods.  It's in EVERYTHING.  Soy sauce, right?  Ugh.  WHich is an ingredient in lots of stuff, too.  Also, look for Modified Food Starch on labels.  It may be corn or potato starch, but it is likely wheat starch.  If it specifically says corn starch or potato starch, you should be ok. 

http://www.yumuniverse.com/ (http://www.yumuniverse.com/)

http://detoxinista.com/ (http://detoxinista.com/)

http://www.againstallgrain.com/ (http://www.againstallgrain.com/)

Three blogs I just discovered.  I've also been looking at the book Everyday Paleo.  I haven't pulled the trigger yet!  But it looks pretty good.  Normal type foods.  As neat as it is to really eat different things, it's not just me I have to consider.  It's not really fair to make my spouse, who doesn't have any food allergy issues, eat stuff he doesn't like.  I know, I can make him cook his own stuff, but as a meat & taters girl from KS myself, it's really ok by me.  :D  There are other blogs, but I have them saved at home.  I'll try to remember to share them when I get home.   

MM, if you are into making your own latte, you could do almond milk.  Or rice or coconut milk.  I don't know if coffee shops use those...  I've never asked at Starbucks, but that's pretty much the only place I go right now. 

There are a number of reasons I'm considering Paleo/dairy free of some sort.
-I did allergy testing with an allergist a little over a year ago and he showed a mild allergy to milk lectin (or whatever it's called)
-I did food allergy testing (Cyrex) with my RN/naturopath and she showed an intolerance to whey
-The friend of mine diagnosed with hashimotos, and the thought that if I do have an allergy, if I can fix it now, I may not have to deal with some of the stuff later
-Anecdotally, people with gluten issues often have dairy issues

The reason(s) I don't want to is because I love cheese.  And fro-yo.  :D  Oh, and chocolate. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 08, 2013, 03:16:16 PM
I buy vegan chocolate btw ;)


here is a good article i just read, posted it in MM's thread too, mentions hashimotos as well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 08, 2013, 04:16:41 PM
I don't drink coffee at home and no none fo the coffee shops around have anything but soy milk. Plus cheese and frozen yogurt. :( I really, really, really don't want to give up dairy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 08, 2013, 04:31:41 PM
I know yo udon't but maybe if you try it and see how you feel? if you feel awesomely better, it may be worth looking into giving up. And you can bring your own milk for them to froth. You know I have an answer for everything :D but i used to work in a coffee shop and we did have soy, but people would bring in rice or almond milk.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on January 08, 2013, 05:21:27 PM
Teetiime- that is interesting. Have you had your full workup for autoimmune stuff with the RE? Have they ever tried low dose steroids through the transfer and beyond? Not just the medrol pack.

No. But most REs in the area don't focus much, if at all, on autoimmune explanations (so I would have to switch doctors likely).  I have only done a million clomid cycles and 2 IUIs so far.  Moving on to IVF now as I either don't respond to a really low dose of meds or way over respond after a slight increase.  No idea what they give, beyond progesterone, after transfer.  The only nice thing about not ovulating is that I don't have pre cycle meds so will know more once we get the okay to start stims.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: teetime on January 08, 2013, 05:23:04 PM
Gluten intolerance/celiac can manifest in all sorts of ways, and I could believe that it's what might be causing your mouth sores...  Be aware, that if you are being tested for the antibody for Celiac that you need to be eating gluten at the time, or the test isn't really valid (that's my understanding).  My RN asked if I wanted to do that test, and I opted out because I didn't want to start eating gluten again (it makes me feel that bad).  I figured whether or not I actually have Celiac is irrelevant, I can't tolerate gluten anyway.  I actually don't think I have celiac, because the potential for cross contamination at resturants, and even at home, is very possible and I don't get sick.  So I suspect mine is just an intolerance.  Anyhoo... 

SNIP


Thank you!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 08, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
I would rather not give up dairy because I can't do soy and we can't do nuts so I would really lack options. And cheese is about my favorite food ever.

I am with you on cheese being a favorite. I will say that I think cutting out most cheese was really good for my weight loss last year. I need to get back to that. It's easy to sneak a little in here and there, and the reality is that I was *fine* without it!

A lot of latte places here have a couple of different options for lattes now, not just soy.

Could you try it for a week or two and just see if it helps?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 08, 2013, 06:15:35 PM
No. But most REs in the area don't focus much, if at all, on autoimmune explanations (so I would have to switch doctors likely).  I have only done a million clomid cycles and 2 IUIs so far.  Moving on to IVF now as I either don't respond to a really low dose of meds or way over respond after a slight increase.  No idea what they give, beyond progesterone, after transfer.  The only nice thing about not ovulating is that I don't have pre cycle meds so will know more once we get the okay to start stims.
ah, i thought you had done IVF already. Keep me posted and if you have any questions let me know.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 08, 2013, 08:17:44 PM
I also love cheese - I would have a very hard time giving up dairy. I say this, as I just finished a slice of cheese pizza, my go-to food.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 08, 2013, 08:59:30 PM
In other news, this is a busy workweek and it was rapidly declining into a bad eating week - potential for lunch out every day, etc.

So tonight after acupuncture, on the way home I made a concerted effort to stop at the small grocery store that I pass by, so I could pick up some stuff to pack lunch for the rest of the week, and to make another good but easy dinner later in the week (roast chicken, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, sweet potatoes).

I thought that was a decent intervention to help get the week on track and was feeling good about making good choices...and I planned to get home and eat a small dinner of a half-portion of pork chop (WW recipe made with dijon mustard, very tasty) and some carrots and broccoli that we have leftover from last night.

But mr. cgraz had bought pizza. Which was sweet, but more than I wanted to eat. But I couldn't resist it. At least I only had 1 slice of plain cheese (fairly thin crust, not too filling, but so good) and 1 small slice of salad pizza (just thin crust with no sauce or cheese, topped with mixed greens lightly dressed - OMG so good).

So tomorrow, the crackdown on the rest of the week shall commence.

I also bought pistachios, which I have really been craving. But to help avoid a pistachio-palooza where the points will be racked up, I portioned them out into snack-sized baggies in 2-point servings. Ta-da! I'm very pleased with myself for that - otherwise I could have torn through the whole bag in no time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on January 09, 2013, 05:07:22 AM
MM- how was your appointment?

I'm not giving up dairy. I eat less of it these days as a weight control measure.

Most of the dairy alternatives seem to have very little in the way of nutrition. The coconut milk stuff, in particular, is all calories (carbs and fat) and is generally pretty highly processed.

I like nuts... but I eat them like 6 at a time.

So... I'm just really not a fan of the whole dairy alternative thing. When I was vegan, I just ate other stuff...

Why are you trying to lose weight?  You bought a size 2 skirt at Target????
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 09, 2013, 08:59:53 AM
Good job on stopping for healthy stuff, cgraz, AND on not eating a whole pizza (which is what I would have done)!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 09, 2013, 09:11:44 AM
If I hadn't eaten lunch at Chipotle, I probably would have had at least another slice...but that lunch left me feeling full (and huge) for most of the afternoon into evening! I think feeling so gross was what made me want to turn things around.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on January 09, 2013, 10:15:18 AM
I would rather not give up dairy because I can't do soy and we can't do nuts so I would really lack options. And cheese is about my favorite food ever.

What about Hemp milk?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 09, 2013, 12:00:19 PM
Hemp milk?  I had no idea there was such a thing.

I managed my 30 minutes running, and then did 2 sets squats, shoulder press's, and kettle bell swings with 40lbs. ( kettle bell was with 20) 
I am always glad when I exercise so I have a hard time understanding why it is so difficult to motivate


Still eating simply... Feeling better digestively as a result. I am continuing my new affair with kefir!! 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 09, 2013, 12:06:36 PM
I haven't seen hemp milk anywhere, although my naturopath has recommneded it.  Today after I see her (in the hippie dippie crunch mecca of Boulder) I'm going to stop at one of the health food stores to check there, and to get some Lara bars and maybe some other natural, gf snacks.  This weekend we are traveling back to KS, which means eating on the go and limited options.  So if I can throw some snacks in my purse, I should be ok. 

I'm planning a run today. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 09, 2013, 12:06:37 PM
In other news, this is a busy workweek and it was rapidly declining into a bad eating week - potential for lunch out every day, etc. 

You should be super proud of everything you've done to get your week under control. For me, 90% of staying on track is being able to just grab something quick, when I need it, without too much thought. That means putting in the work at other times of the week so there is always something there to grab.

Don't worry too much about the pizza, it happens! But, might be worth a talk to dh about accidental sabotage- it's so easy to do!

Why are you trying to lose weight?  You bought a size 2 skirt at Target????

I reached a weight I was very happy with this summer and am trying to maintain that. Of course, my weight fluctuates up and down a bit and currently (following the holidays, travel, and general lack of discipline) I'm at the upper end of the 10lb range I'd like to stay in. It makes sense to me to find a little discipline and get back to where I'm a little happier than let things continue to slide upward. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 09, 2013, 12:14:50 PM
If I hadn't eaten lunch at Chipotle, I probably would have had at least another slice...but that lunch left me feeling full (and huge) for most of the afternoon into evening! I think feeling so gross was what made me want to turn things around.

I was starving last night when I got home. I passed  Wendy's, a Whataburger, and a Chipotle, and I damn near stopped at every single one. They all sounded delicious.

I settled for Honey Nut Cheerios instead. Not *nearly* as satisfying.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 09, 2013, 12:17:32 PM
Mouse- wtg on y our run!

At our store, the hemp milk is on the shelf with the other shelf stable non-dairy milks. There is also brown rice milk.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 09, 2013, 12:32:16 PM
Crap, now I really want Whataburger for lunch. And there's one around the corner. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on January 09, 2013, 12:33:44 PM
Crap, now I really want Whataburger for lunch. And there's one around the corner. :(

 >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 09, 2013, 12:36:08 PM
It's the salt! I'm dying for salt right now!!! And WB is probably the saltiest fast food out there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 09, 2013, 12:49:09 PM
I managed my 30 minutes running, and then did 2 sets squats, shoulder press's, and kettle bell swings with 40lbs. ( kettle bell was with 20) 
I am always glad when I exercise so I have a hard time understanding why it is so difficult to motivate

Nice work! I have the same problem re: feeling better after I excercise but having a hard time getting started. Joining a gym and doing classes has helped a little. But, my running is slipping. So hard to keep the running up with the weather has been so stormy and yucky and I haaaaate the treadmill. Brought my running stuff in case I get motivated to hit the 'mill at lunch. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 09, 2013, 01:00:14 PM
I have never seen hemp milk but I never looked either.  Milk isn't much of an issue for me since I never drink it and rarely use it. Cheese and treats are my issue.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 09, 2013, 01:13:57 PM
I was starving last night when I got home. I passed  Wendy's, a Whataburger, and a Chipotle, and I damn near stopped at every single one. They all sounded delicious.

I settled for Honey Nut Cheerios instead. Not *nearly* as satisfying.

Gah, same here.  I had planned a healthy meal for when I got home, but after trying on jeans for an hour at different places, I wanted to eat a bag of cheetos and then go for ice cream.  And my gluten intolerance saved me from a binge on valentine's candy.  I wasn't perfect, I did eat a Reese's egg, but that 170 calories was way better than how many was in that tub of cherry heart candy, I feel certain.  *sigh*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 09, 2013, 01:18:31 PM
It's raining and gross outside, which is saving me from Whatasizing my ass today. There may still be Doritos in my future, though. Need to see if I have any change.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 09, 2013, 01:24:19 PM
I see this lady on the train every morning eating her breakfast of one slice of dry wheat toast and four nuts. Please let me never be this person.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on January 09, 2013, 01:34:04 PM
It's the salt! I'm dying for salt right now!!! And WB is probably the saltiest fast food out there.


I am just mad because we do not have it here and I want it  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 09, 2013, 01:46:32 PM
LOL!!! I ended up just getting a bag of Doritos from the vending machine. It's too rainy to go out.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 09, 2013, 01:54:36 PM
I see this lady on the train every morning eating her breakfast of one slice of dry wheat toast and four nuts. Please let me never be this person.
:rotfl:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on January 09, 2013, 05:04:35 PM
I see this lady on the train every morning eating her breakfast of one slice of dry wheat toast and four nuts. Please let me never be this person.

I would rather be her than the woman who eats a donut or a muffin every day for breakfast.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 09, 2013, 05:26:51 PM
I would rather be her than the woman who eats a donut or a muffin every day for breakfast.


I suppose. But I like food. I think of feeding myself boring bland food every single day as punishment.

Plus I like muffins.  ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 09, 2013, 09:17:08 PM
You should be super proud of everything you've done to get your week under control. For me, 90% of staying on track is being able to just grab something quick, when I need it, without too much thought. That means putting in the work at other times of the week so there is always something there to grab.

Don't worry too much about the pizza, it happens! But, might be worth a talk to dh about accidental sabotage- it's so easy to do!

I reached a weight I was very happy with this summer and am trying to maintain that. Of course, my weight fluctuates up and down a bit and currently (following the holidays, travel, and general lack of discipline) I'm at the upper end of the 10lb range I'd like to stay in. It makes sense to me to find a little discipline and get back to where I'm a little happier than let things continue to slide upward. :)

Thanks RA - yeah, I didn't want to take the wind out of his sails this time, but I was wishing he hadn't got pizza! If he makes a habit of it, we'll talk. He's out of work now, and being home all the time, he's finding ways to "help" so I am trying to appreciate things and pick my battles.  ;)

The question of why watch your weight / watch what you eat when you are xyz size is something kind of on my mind now that I've hit some good goals. I know people think I look ok, but I feel like I still have to be on top of things, or it could easily go back the other way. And even though I've hit some big goals, I do want to go a little further, but I'm starting to get that weird kind of feedback from people when I talk about doing WW, or being aware of making certain kinds of choices, or turning down stuff. It makes me want to say "how do you think I got this way?! I need to keep it up!"

And debba, as for salt...that's what my latest infatuation with the pistachios is really all about - so satisfying to crack those salty shells and slurp out the nuts! It's so wrong, I know...but I can't help it.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 09, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
I see this lady on the train every morning eating her breakfast of one slice of dry wheat toast and four nuts. Please let me never be this person.

 :D

I sometimes laugh at myself counting out things like crackers or nuts, or chocolate chips or delicious tiny chocolatey goldfish...but I always give myself more than 4!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 09, 2013, 09:34:54 PM
I would rather be her than the woman who eats a donut or a muffin every day for breakfast.


Not me. 

I'd rather be chubby than obsessed.  Not that you can't be both at the same time,
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 09, 2013, 09:36:11 PM
Not me. 

I'd rather be chubby than obsessed.  Not that you can't be both at the same time,
I should probably say more. 

The original comment about the donut felt judgy to me.  Maybe it wasn't. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 09, 2013, 11:03:28 PM
I should probably say more. 

The original comment about the donut felt judgy to me.  Maybe it wasn't. 

To be fair my comment was probably judgey also.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on January 10, 2013, 02:29:32 AM
I should probably say more. 

The original comment about the donut felt judgy to me.  Maybe it wasn't. 

The original comment about the toast and the nuts was judgy. I replied in kind.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on January 10, 2013, 04:46:06 AM
I would rather be her than the woman who eats a donut or a muffin every day for breakfast.


Oh the horror of being me! :D

I eat a scone or something equally decadant -donut, muffin, croissant - every morning plus a full-fat latte for breakfast now and I'm still skinny. My past-anorexic self would have a heart attack from surprise. So, you know what, it isn't a case of either or. You eat muffins and you're fat slob - you eat toast and 4 nuts and you're a healthy eater.

I know, shocker!

Having been in the depths of disordered eating. Let me tell you, I would not go back to being that person for all the money in the world.

And learning this lesson - that I can eat a variety of foods (even decadant ones) in varying quanties (because in disordered eating exact quantities with little/no variation become very very important), and enjoy these foods and not turn into some disfigured horrible nasty blob that people would judge to be weak willed and imperfect* which I so deeply feared turning into for all those years  -- was so refreshing! (*and that is my demons talking, not actually what I think about people who are overweight)

I can recognize disordered eating from a mile away. It is like looking into a mirror and seeing my past self reflected back at me. I have been known to stare when I see it in action, because I am so absorbed and curious about how I must have come across to other people. 

Right or wrong, I would probably had the same thought as MM about the woman on the train. But I would have said "Please don't let me go back to that place." And when I was in that place, I felt I was doing everything RIGHT and everyone else were just unhealthy, lazy, misinformed people judging me because they were too undisciplined to do what I did. God I felt so superior, but also terrified and supremely self-loathing, and I was so delusional!  :nono:


Would I judge toast train lady as less than, no. But I would feel a surge of empathy and hope she wasn't feeling trapped and fearful like I was so many years ago.



Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 10, 2013, 07:04:58 AM
I have learned the hard way that i always have to be mindful of what i am eating and mindful of my portions. The weight will surely creep back up. I wish I could eat whatever I want.

This week has been ok so far, yesterday a little snacking after work (it was 3pm) and came home with DD then she wanted to make cupcakes, which i did not eat, but i did lick the frosting spoon :D and really, it was tofu frosting, but somehow it did taste yummy! you put enough confectioners sugar in something and it is yummy :D

I never made my cashew cheese because i need cheese cloth. I guess the market sells that?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 10, 2013, 09:48:21 AM
ok i bought the cheese cloth and now the recipe i am looking at does not call for it :D LOL!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 10, 2013, 10:38:43 AM
You're awesome, SB.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 10, 2013, 10:43:36 AM
Is that really disordered eating?

Ideally- my way of eating calls for many tiny meals per day.

So, I might eat a slice of toast with 1tsp each of pb and jelly, and a small piece of fruit for breakfast.

2 hours later I might eat 6oz of yogurt and 8 almonds.

...and so on and so forth.

Of course, that is during the "lose" phase. But maintain is only a few calories more/day... so a lot seems to stay the same.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 10, 2013, 11:20:03 AM
Is that really disordered eating?

Ideally- my way of eating calls for many tiny meals per day.

So, I might eat a slice of toast with 1tsp each of pb and jelly, and a small piece of fruit for breakfast.

2 hours later I might eat 6oz of yogurt and 8 almonds.

...and so on and so forth.

Of course, that is during the "lose" phase. But maintain is only a few calories more/day... so a lot seems to stay the same.



Is it disordered eating to eat the same bland thing every morning for years? Maybe not but it sure as heck would be my definition of hell. I see this woman almost every morning. Not to mention that eating on the train is against the rules. ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on January 10, 2013, 11:39:56 AM
I love toast.  It makes some sense to eat it dry on the train to avoid a mess or such.  Some people want something really light and bland when they first wake up.  I am not one of those people  :D  I would totally be peanut butter banana toast sandwich lady.  But I don't eat on the train. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 10, 2013, 12:46:30 PM
Maybe it's disordered eating when it's controlling you, and not vice versa? You seem to have a good handle on your eating plan, RA, not "OMG, if I eat one crumb more than my precise allotted amount of toast and almonds then all is lost and I will be FAT! FAT I TELL YOU!!!!!"

Of course, in my vaguely disordered eating world, it's "Fuck, I ate an extra almond. Might as well have some chips, a Big Gulp, and a few king-sized candy bars to go with it. Fatass."
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on January 10, 2013, 12:51:05 PM
RA - I can't speak to whether california train lady is practicing disordered eating or not. But, I probably would have thought the same way as MM.
It does make that ED antennae stand up a bit. Only the lady knows for sure, of course.

My point was more that it isn't an EITHER/OR. Proposition.

A lady eating dry toast and nuts is not necessarily healthy and a lady eating a donut every morning is not necessarily unhealthy.

And, Meri, I'm 20lbs heavier than I was at my worst. So I do gain weight. :D  I've found a good balance at the moment.  :fingers: But it can be hard to avoid the really, really good ice cream they sell here.

And, I also really like toast. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on January 10, 2013, 12:55:04 PM
Maybe it's disordered eating when it's controlling you, and not vice versa?

That's how I would view it. Disordered eating is not WHAT you eat, per se. It is your whole relationship with food and how it defines and controls you.

Quote
Of course, in my vaguely disordered eating world, it's "Fuck, I ate an extra almond. Might as well have some chips, a Big Gulp, and a few king-sized candy bars to go with it. Fatass."

Oh, I have had days like that. Less now than before, thankfully. And some days you just need a good junk food binge. :D
But when I would "fail" back then,  I would fail spectacularly. (And, of course, then hate myself for days and do all sorts of exercise to run it off, etc. ) I still don't understand how it got to that point.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 10, 2013, 12:59:43 PM
I, too, like toast. Dry toast, buttered toast, cinnamon sugar toast, any kind of toast, LOL!!! This is why I do not eat it :D

So cashew goat cheeze is "aging" in my cupboard overnight, but so far, first lick, OMFG!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 10, 2013, 01:02:31 PM
SB, you've never seen one of my true binges. They were pretty spectacular. I don't think I ever crossed the line to a full-blown eating disorder, but I think I've come fairly close a few times.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 10, 2013, 01:06:00 PM
Luckily I never really dealt with an eating disorder. Growing up with an obese mom with very unhealthy attitudes towards food gave me issues, but nothing too disordered. My issue until i went to WW in grad school, was portion control. I got fat on smoothies full of healthy things! Now, I struggle to maintain my weight and get back to my pre-pregnancy race weight (wish i really hope to see one day) but i think that is just part my body chemistry, genetics, and my body hating on me ;) just kidding on the last one. I do like sweets, but besides ice cream, was never one to binge. Ice cream is just so yummy and goes down so easily that it is too easy to eat the whole thing! LOL. DH though is a binge eater. He ate an entire box of cookies in a day the other day and an entire package of organic newman o's (oreos) in 2 days. He just does not eat enough during the day, so i just think he is too hungry at home.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on January 10, 2013, 01:26:14 PM
My DH will go all day with very little food (he says he's too busy at work) and at 9pm at night when he's home from work he will eat a huge meal and then snacks. I keep trying to sell him on the idea of lots of smaller meals throughout the day. Some day hopefully it catches on.  :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 10, 2013, 02:48:56 PM
I, too, like toast. Dry toast, buttered toast, cinnamon sugar toast, any kind of toast, LOL!!! This is why I do not eat it :D

So cashew goat cheeze is "aging" in my cupboard overnight, but so far, first lick, OMFG!

All you people who claim to love dry toast. Do you mean toast or bread? Would you just have au untoasted plain slice of store bought wheat bread as a snack? I sure as hell wouldn't. Ick.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on January 10, 2013, 02:56:27 PM
All you people who claim to love dry toast. Do you mean toast or bread? Would you just have au untoasted plain slice of store bought wheat bread as a snack? I sure as hell wouldn't. Ick.

Yes. As long as the bread is fresh. I like plain, fresh bread from a new opened bag. And the bread here is really good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 10, 2013, 03:04:19 PM
I have issues with portion control....I can put the food away. DH likes to cook, and always makes more than enough so it is difficult to have appropriate portions. We go around and around about this and he finally understands and makes an effort to make smaller meals. And I make a better effort to make appropriate portions when there is more than enough.

I did my morning 30 minutes before work today.  I am feeling kind of funky today though. I hope I am not getting sick.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 10, 2013, 03:08:39 PM
All you people who claim to love dry toast. Do you mean toast or bread? Would you just have au untoasted plain slice of store bought wheat bread as a snack? I sure as hell wouldn't. Ick.
yes!

I think DH's mental well being would be more even keeled if he ate regularly. He could easily skip breakfast and not eat until dinner time  :o I wake up STARVING, no way that would work for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on January 10, 2013, 09:25:29 PM
Would you just have au untoasted plain slice of store bought wheat bread as a snack?

If it is bread I want to eat it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 11, 2013, 09:20:20 AM
After reading Mother Teresa's post in the flu thread...I went and got the flu shot yesterday. Just.in.case (my doc always wants me to get it due to my asthma.)
Then I came home and took a nap. 

I am finishing up my coffee and then I am heading up to do my "morning 30" before work. I have a massage after work tonight that I am very much looking forward to.  :)

DH and I have switched new my afterwork ritual from one or two glasses of wine to drinking chamomile and lemon tea, and I am finding that I am sleeping SO much better. I was waking up after a few hours and would not be able to fall asleep again. Now, I am sleeping through the night and feeling well rested.

Anyway, have a great day everyone.   :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 11, 2013, 09:42:01 AM
I think we are going out for a date night tomorrow. I do not like eating out but I think it will be nice. I feel like DH and I are so not on the same page right now, lots of stress with the holidays, DD, etc, that it will be good. her yoga place has "drop and dine" yoga tomorrow. We will probably do thai. I think i got eggplant with brown rice last time. I have my period and am sooooooooo bloated. Hope to see a drop on the scale once the bloating is gone. Have done really well this week with food and exercise.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 11, 2013, 09:53:36 AM
meri, I hope you have fun and get better connected. 

We have a crazy weekend starting today.  We're going out tonight.  My dad is picking up J from school and taking her to dinner.  I'm surprising Philip by taking him to a creperie he's been dying to go to.  I'll probably have a salad (good) and pomme frites (bad). 

Then a friend's son is having his Bar Mitzvah tomorrow so there will be a luncheon after the service, then a dinner tomorrow night.  I'm sure we won't be virtuous.  And then on Sunday we have a board meeting at the JCC (I'm being elected to the board) so the day will be full of sitting around.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 11, 2013, 10:12:59 AM
DD has been a handful lately, and we are just exhausted. I think it will be good to have some one on one time, even if just for an hour :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 11, 2013, 10:38:51 AM
For sure.  Even if she's been an angel, you need time for you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 11, 2013, 03:20:10 PM
If it is bread I want to eat it. 

1

I used to eat bread plain, bread with butter, bread with pb, bread dipped in spaghetti sauce, bread with cheese on it...  So yeah. 

Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on January 11, 2013, 07:05:07 PM
1

I used to eat bread plain, bread with butter, bread with pb, bread dipped in spaghetti sauce, bread with cheese on it...  So yeah.
I can eat a loaf of bread. Crappy, white bread. And if it's good bread, even better.

But right now I'm eating chicken and vegetable soup.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 11, 2013, 08:59:09 PM
To use a phrase I just heard-  I ate my feelings a lot tonight. 

Ugh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 11, 2013, 09:17:33 PM
 :hug:

Sorry. I've had days weeks like that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 11, 2013, 09:40:36 PM
To use a phrase I just heard-  I ate my feelings a lot tonight. 

Ugh.

 :hug:

are you visiting the IL's right now?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 11, 2013, 09:46:01 PM
Sorry Courtney. Hope tomorrow is a new day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 11, 2013, 11:35:54 PM
:hug:

are you visiting the IL's right now?
:hug:

are you visiting the IL's right now?
No...  :). We were supposed to head to KS this weekend for my niece's 4th birthday party, and the weather was so bad that we turned around about an hour into the trip.  I'm bummed.  I not only want to see her, but I struggle mightily when I'm the only one who can't be around.  :(. It's my issue, for sure, and I'm sad. 

On top of that, we had an uncomfortable conversation with someone, or rather my dh did, and conflict and anger make me so super uncomfortable.  People I'm invested in being upset at each other just bothers me, and even tho none of that was bad or earth shattering, it was enough to push me over into a giant binge.  *sigh*

Tomorrow, my mom will Skype me in on parts of the party, so we can wish her a happy birthday and stuff.  I just need to chillax and realize that it's ok to miss stuff sometimes, even tho it pains me. 

:)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 12, 2013, 07:36:21 AM
Courtney- that sucks about the weather :(

BUT in good news, i was right, period bloat is mostly gone and i was down a couple pounds on the scale!!!!  :clap:  This definitely encourages me to keep eating all this soup and cabbage :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 12, 2013, 08:16:02 AM
I'm sorry Courtney - I know how important things like that are to you, and as a fellow devoted Auntie, I completely understand. Hope you enjoy skyping in and you get to do something special at a later visit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 12, 2013, 11:25:55 AM
I am sorry you missed your visit, Courtney.  And I am like you, in that I avoid confrontation like the plaque...I dread it, and I tend to dwell on it when it occurs. Not good at all.
 :hug:  Don't beat yourself up over the eating...move on from it.   :hug:

DH and I had a bottle of wine ( I should have stopped at one glass!) with dinner last night, and I feel awful this morning. I am such a ninny. We are planning on a new run loop down off the Avenue of the Giants this am...and we are going to go anyway. Hopefully I will burn the hangover out of my system. ugh
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 12, 2013, 12:37:12 PM
Thanks y'all!  :).
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Post by: merigayle on January 12, 2013, 05:02:10 PM
Came home from work at 2pm to piping hot pizza from the pizzaria, i resisted. We are going out to dinner and with the movement on the scale i was not going to tempt it. And I do not want to ever eat dairy. Not sure about dinner, thai or mexican. Mexican would be fine cause i would just eat a salad or veggie fajita with not fixings with it, just the veggies.
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Post by: merigayle on January 12, 2013, 08:45:59 PM
Ordered a salad and forgot to order dressing on side :( but overall not too bad
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Post by: MiniDriver on January 14, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
I haven't weighed myself yet after returning from vacation (ToM), but my pants still fit so I haven't done that much damage.  Back on track yesterday and today, back to vegan after having meat/fish/dairy on vacation.

The food was awesome and totally worth it.  Saw several people photographing their meals "meals & miles style" and cracked up.  Now the biggest problem is fighting the expectation that I'll have limitless food, fighting the expectation of dessert.

We made time to exercise every day, both in the gym and just out having fun.   We took a spin class one day and really enjoyed it.  Our teacher was in some sort of program in which she got her vacation free if she taught two classes a day.  I've got to check that program out! It would be totally worth getting teacher certified for it.

Time to start working on getting fit for Summer! 

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Post by: Courtney on January 14, 2013, 11:05:51 AM
Holy crap, I'd totaly teach 2 classes a day to get a free vacation.   :yikes:
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on January 14, 2013, 11:15:29 AM
I haven't weighed myself yet after returning from vacation (ToM), but my pants still fit so I haven't done that much damage.  Back on track yesterday and today, back to vegan after having meat/fish/dairy on vacation.

The food was awesome and totally worth it.  Saw several people photographing their meals "meals & miles style" and cracked up.  Now the biggest problem is fighting the expectation that I'll have limitless food, fighting the expectation of dessert.

We made time to exercise every day, both in the gym and just out having fun.   We took a spin class one day and really enjoyed it.  Our teacher was in some sort of program in which she got her vacation free if she taught two classes a day.  I've got to check that program out! It would be totally worth getting teacher certified for it.

Time to start working on getting fit for Summer! 



When we went to Mexico was always had this too.. techers of yoga/pilates/aerobics who were there for free.. They were not as fun as the resort entertainment staff though :(
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Post by: MiniDriver on January 14, 2013, 11:23:07 AM
One of my favorite meals from the trip was pumpkin/spinach/ricotta stuffed into cannelloni shells.  I've got to experiment with proportions, but it should be easy to prepare.

I modified a spinach-ricotta recipe thus:

Prepared or home-made tomato sauce
3 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
1 small onion, chopped
2 garlic cloves, finely chopped
10 oz baby spinach
 3/4 cups ricotta (12 oz fresh or 15 oz supermarket-style)
1 cup canned pumpkin
1 large egg, lightly beaten
1/2 cup chopped fresh flat-leaf parsley
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon black pepper
8 (6- by 4-inch) fresh pasta rectangles or 8 oven-ready (sometimes labeled "no-boil") lasagne noodles


Make cannelloni:

Heat oil in a 5- to 6-quart heavy pot over moderately high heat until hot but not smoking, then sauté onion and garlic, stirring occasionally, until lightly browned, about 5 minutes.
Add spinach and sauté, stirring, until just wilted, about 3 minutes. Remove from heat and cool completely.

Stir together ricotta, pumpkin egg, parsley, salt, pepper in a bowl, then stir in spinach mixture.

Boil pasta 2 pieces at a time in a 6- to 8-quart pot of boiling salted water , stirring to separate, until just tender, about2 minutes for fresh pasta or about 6 minutes for oven-ready noodles. Gently transfer with a slotted spoon to a large bowl of cold water to stop cooking, then remove from bowl, shaking off water, and lay flat on kitchen towels (not terry cloth). Pat dry with paper towels. Trim oven-ready noodles (if using) as closely as possible to 6 1/4- by 5 1/2-inch rectangles.

Preheat oven to 425°F.

Spread 2/3 cup sauce in buttered baking dish.
Spread about 1/3 cup ricotta filling in a line along 1 short side of 1 pasta rectangle, then roll up to enclose filling. Transfer, seam side down, to baking dish. Make 7 more cannelloni in same manner, arranging snugly in 1 layer. Spread 1/2 cup more sauce over cannelloni. Bake, covered with foil, in middle of oven until sauce is bubbling, about 20 minutes.

Dunno if I can work out a vegan version - I left out the mozzarella and parm cheese, but I think the stuffing won't work without the ricotta and egg.

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Post by: Run Amok on January 14, 2013, 11:34:33 AM
I've been meaning to try these. I'm not vegan... but cheese is pretty calorie dense.  http://www.pbs.org/food/fresh-tastes/stuffed-shells/ (http://www.pbs.org/food/fresh-tastes/stuffed-shells/)
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Post by: merigayle on January 14, 2013, 11:36:32 AM
That stuffed shells recipe is really easy and really tasty, even DH gobbles it up, actually, the last time i made it, he ate most of it! It reheats nicely too. Mini, i was actually going to post RA's recipe, because you can use tofu in place of the ricotta.
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Post by: Run Amok on January 14, 2013, 11:37:34 AM
That stuffed shells recipe is really easy and really tasty, even DH gobbles it up, actually, the last time i made it, he ate most of it! It reheats nicely too. Mini, i was actually going to post RA's recipe, because you can use tofu in place of the ricotta.

I got it from you, lady.  :P
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Post by: debbatx on January 14, 2013, 11:37:58 AM
Sounds like a great trip, Mini!

We did okay this weekend - not too horrible, not perfect, but that's okay. The scale is creeping upward, but as long as it stays at "creeping" pace, I'm fine with that. I still have a little over 18 weeks to go and about 7 pounds to gain (ideal would be 5, personal max would be 10). Of course, if I go over that, even with careful eating, then I do. Reid was 8 lbs, 11 oz. It takes some calories to sustain that size of a kid!
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Post by: diablita on January 14, 2013, 11:53:12 AM
same here over the weekend: not great, not horrible
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Post by: Courtney on January 14, 2013, 02:02:13 PM
Ugh, so my NP/naturopath lady wants me to do this yeast free diet for a while.  I don't know how long that means.  So I tried. 

And all it did was induce some real binge eating.  Deprivation is not something I apparently handle well.   :nono:  Gah.  The diet is essentially meat and non-starchy veggies, minus tomatoes.  And almonds.

I suppose physically I can do it, but mentally it's fucking with me, and I've just today settled back into reasonable eating, as opposed to binge eating. 
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Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on January 14, 2013, 02:06:39 PM
Ugh, so my NP/naturopath lady wants me to do this yeast free diet for a while.  I don't know how long that means.  So I tried. 

And all it did was induce some real binge eating.  Deprivation is not something I apparently handle well.   :nono:  Gah.  The diet is essentially meat and non-starchy veggies, minus tomatoes.  And almonds.

I suppose physically I can do it, but mentally it's fucking with me, and I've just today settled back into reasonable eating, as opposed to binge eating. 

 :hug:

Did she explain what she thought yeast free would do for you?

And, are you sure it is the new eating plan, and not just the time of year? I find January is a very hard month to stay on track, personally.
It is like the lack of sunlight finally hits unmanagable proportions in my brain and my body suddenly just craves sugar/carbs uncontrollably. It is complete self medication, I'm sure.
But it is a fight for most of the month to not just go crazy.
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Post by: Courtney on January 14, 2013, 02:15:08 PM
:hug:

Did she explain what she thought yeast free would do for you?

And, are you sure it is the new eating plan, and not just the time of year? I find January is a very hard month to stay on track, personally.
It is like the lack of sunlight finally hits unmanagable proportions in my brain and my body suddenly just craves sugar/carbs uncontrollably. It is complete self medication, I'm sure.
But it is a fight for most of the month to not just go crazy.

She did explain what the reasoning was, and while I'm not sure I buy it, I was going to give it a shot.  I actually think I gave myself an anxiety induced nausea episode the night before I was to start it, and then I ate that way all day, and I was visibly down.  DH couldn't figure out wtf was wrong with me when he got home.  And then all weekend, I was sneak eating and binge eating.  Stuff I had a decent handle on up until this.  My shitty weekend was not a big help to all of this, but I gave up on the eating plan before it got very shitty.  Lucky for me, we get a lot of sunshine even in January here in CO.  It's beautiful and sunny right now.  :) 

She told me that nearly no one can stick to this diet, but that she wanted me to try.  I did, but I seriously lasted a day before I was shoving cheetos in my mouth.  It feels impossible, and I can't get myself amped up to even really try, becuase I don't want to.  The idea of eating nothing but meat and veggies for weeks is not something I can wrap my head around. 
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Post by: cgraz on January 14, 2013, 02:18:17 PM
Can she tell you how long she means by "a while" so you have a time frame in mind? I know when mr. cgraz did the paleo challenge, he found it easier to stick to because he knew exactly when it would end. Maybe that would help? Not saying a month is what she has in mind, but even if you set your first goal to try it for a week, maybe that could work?

Also, try focusing on the things you can have, instead of what you can't...and find some favorites that you can go-to when you need some satisfaction. Like if it's focused on meat, is there a particular thing you really like, maybe a nice steak or a pork chop? Or a favorite way to have a certain veggie?

Hang in there, I know you've been dealing with a lot of frustration lately.
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Post by: merigayle on January 14, 2013, 02:22:11 PM
cgraz has some good advice.

I also think meal planning and seeing and planning what you will eat and what you can have will help.

When I went macrobiotic, it was not super severe changes, but enough to really take time to figure out and fall into a pattern. I had health reasons for doing it and that was my motivating factor, and i was excited to try new foods and new recipes. I tried all sorts of vegetables i would never have touched and cooking methods that i never would have tried before.

Does she think you have systemic candida?
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Post by: Magic Microbe on January 14, 2013, 02:49:32 PM
If you cant do it then you cant do it. I wouldn't sacrifice the gains you have made over this.
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Post by: Courtney on January 14, 2013, 02:50:29 PM

Does she think you have systemic candida?

Yes.  And we will probably treat with drugs anyway, but I know that I should do this.

The problem with focusing on what I can have is that it sucks.  I eat meat, but it's not like I crave it.  And veggies are fine, but I can't use any dressings (no dairy, no vinegar, no sugar, no anything to make a decent dressing or sauce).  I'm supposed to use tomatoes sparingly, whatever the fuck that means.  It's so boring and bland, and the food sucks.  No fruit.  I mean, WTF, no fruit?  Really?  No pork either.  So chicken and beef are it (and maybe some seafood, but I'm not a seafood eater).  But it's not like you can put anything on it.  No cheese.  No yogurt. 

So my options are things like baked chicken breast and broccoli.  Neat.  Not tasty by any stretch.  I've been searching recipes all weekend, looking for something new to try, but literally every recipe has stuff in it that I am not supposed to eat.  You know, for flavor.  :D 

So clearly, I associate happiness with good food, and the thought of eating bland food for weeks (the paper she gave me says 8 weeks, but I don't know if that is what she wants).  And even if we do treat with drugs, I'm supposed to try and stick to this as closely as possible.  I know I'm a picky eater, but seriously?  I'm allowed to eat eggs, but the downside is that I don't really like eggs all the much, especially without cheese.  I made up some egg things in my muffin pan to freeze, for breakfasts, and they are fine, but I don't really want to eat them.  I will, I guess. 

I know I'm whining. 

I just know, historically, that if I do this, it's going to end in another binge.  A big ol' FUCK IT sort of deal.  I can't stop thinking about that sort of food right now, and I'm back to eating things I like (healthy foods, just not on this stupid yeast free diet).  I don't like all or nothing approaches, where you can't have X (and Y and Z) at all.  That sort of mindset is a big fat failure for me.  I've already given up gluten and my diet soda vice in the past year, and apparently that is all I've got in me. 

/whine
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Post by: MiniDriver on January 14, 2013, 03:06:34 PM
{{Courtney}}
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Post by: Courtney on January 14, 2013, 03:20:10 PM
{{Courtney}}

Thanks :)  I'm just feeling sorry for myself right now.  Not particularly helpful, but it is what it is!

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Post by: caito on January 14, 2013, 03:37:20 PM
Oh man, that does not sound like a reasonable or enjoyable diet at all, Courtney.   :(   Ugh.

Will your nutritionist understand that what it does to the quality of your life just isn't worth it? 
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Post by: Courtney on January 14, 2013, 03:51:35 PM
Oh man, that does not sound like a reasonable or enjoyable diet at all, Courtney.   :(   Ugh.

Will your nutritionist understand that what it does to the quality of your life just isn't worth it? 


She's probably going to have to.  :D 

We'll see, I see her again in a few weeks to evaluate my thyroid meds, so we'll touch base again then.  In the mean time, I'm going to focus on eating fewer sweets, because that isn't a bad thing.  That isn't going to equate to no sweets, I'm sure.  I'm also going to work on more veggies in my diet, which is an ongoing theme for me. 
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Post by: merigayle on January 14, 2013, 04:01:20 PM
can you have any grains or beans? soy?

here is a no vinegar dressing, non dairy-- http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2011/08/low-fat-tahini-chickpea-dressing.html (http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2011/08/low-fat-tahini-chickpea-dressing.html)

if you can have lemon juice you can sub that for the apple cider vinegar, can you not have AC vinegar? http://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/2011/06/02/crazy-good-ranch-dressing/ (http://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/2011/06/02/crazy-good-ranch-dressing/)

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Post by: merigayle on January 14, 2013, 04:14:17 PM
ranch dip http://theveganstoner.blogspot.com/search?q=dip (http://theveganstoner.blogspot.com/search?q=dip)
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Post by: Courtney on January 14, 2013, 04:18:50 PM
can you have any grains or beans? soy?

here is a no vinegar dressing, non dairy-- http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2011/08/low-fat-tahini-chickpea-dressing.html (http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2011/08/low-fat-tahini-chickpea-dressing.html)

if you can have lemon juice you can sub that for the apple cider vinegar, can you not have AC vinegar? http://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/2011/06/02/crazy-good-ranch-dressing/ (http://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/2011/06/02/crazy-good-ranch-dressing/)


Beans are allowed sparingly (whatever that means?), and only a couple grains are ok (quinoa is the only one I'd ever really heard of).  No vinegars at all.  I can do a lemon juice or lime juice I think. 

Soy would be allowed, but I know I have a bit of an allergy to it, so I typically avoid it if I can.  Not like crazy, but I don't drink soy milk, or anything. 

I appreciate you looking for ideas :) 

I can have avacado, so I bought one, but I have no idea what to do with it.  :D  I don't usually like it much, but I'm willing to try!  What should I do with it? 
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Post by: Run Amok on January 14, 2013, 04:23:08 PM
I love avocado tossed with lemon juice, garlic, salt, and pepper. Or make it into guac with shallots, cumin, salt, pepper, lime. Can you have grapefruit? I like to make a salad of supremed grapefruit and sliced avocado. No dressing or anything... just eat as is. Also, avocado smashed on toast (rub with a garlic clove) with salt & pepper on top is really good.
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Post by: Courtney on January 14, 2013, 04:50:55 PM
I may try the guac idea.  Maybe I could dip raw veggies in it.  I love bell peppers of all kinds for this. 

No fruit :(  That's not to say that is going to actually happen! 
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Post by: Ice Cream on January 14, 2013, 05:29:15 PM
She did explain what the reasoning was, and while I'm not sure I buy it, I was going to give it a shot.  I actually think I gave myself an anxiety induced nausea episode the night before I was to start it, and then I ate that way all day, and I was visibly down.  DH couldn't figure out wtf was wrong with me when he got home.  And then all weekend, I was sneak eating and binge eating.  Stuff I had a decent handle on up until this.  My shitty weekend was not a big help to all of this, but I gave up on the eating plan before it got very shitty.  Lucky for me, we get a lot of sunshine even in January here in CO.  It's beautiful and sunny right now.  :) 

She told me that nearly no one can stick to this diet, but that she wanted me to try.  I did, but I seriously lasted a day before I was shoving cheetos in my mouth.  It feels impossible, and I can't get myself amped up to even really try, becuase I don't want to.  The idea of eating nothing but meat and veggies for weeks is not something I can wrap my head around. 


There must be something wrong with the diet if nearly no one can stick to it. 
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Post by: merigayle on January 14, 2013, 06:21:11 PM
Systemic candida is a bitch to get rid of and i have two patients who have it about 95% gone. Ohshe glows website has a great avocado sauce for spaghetti squash, on phone so cant really link, it would e under pinterest main dishes i made board.


I made 5 portions of hot and sour soup and 6 portions of cabbage pad thai, this fat better start melting off! Lol
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Post by: nadra24 on January 14, 2013, 06:25:38 PM

There must be something wrong with the diet if nearly no one can stick to it. 

Elimination diets are kind of like that, though.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on January 14, 2013, 07:18:13 PM
Systemic candida is a bitch to get rid of and i have two patients who have it about 95% gone. Ohshe glows website has a great avocado sauce for spaghetti squash, on phone so cant really link, it would e under pinterest main dishes i made board.


I made 5 portions of hot and sour soup and 6 portions of cabbage pad thai, this fat better start melting off! Lol

There is no real peer reviewed scientific evidence to show that systemic candida even exists.
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Post by: cgraz on January 14, 2013, 07:22:26 PM
What about spices, like cinnamon? You can make an easy breakfast cereal with quinoa, kind of like oatmeal. It is pretty good. Adding cinnamon is one of those things that makes me feel like I'm eating something that's a "sweet" even if I haven't put in sugar.

I swear I have seen avocado used to make chicken salad somewhere recently, probably Pinterest. I have definitely seen people sub that in for creamy things. You could mash that up with some chunks of chicken, and wrap it in lettuce for a kind of "sandwich" for lunch. I know my paleo friends do a lot of lettuce wraps instead of using bread.

What about other things with a lot of flavor, like garlic? If you can make roasted garlic, that is a great way to add flavor to other veggies. Or other herbs and spices. And salt? Pepper? Those simple things go a long way.

I love me some carbs, believe me - but one of my new favorite meals is roasted chicken (spatchcocked!) with garlic and salt & pepper rubbed all over it, with roasted carrots (I have a great secret for making them come out awesome!), and cauliflower mash. I make the cauliflower by just steaming it (I use chicken broth for the liquid to give it extra flavor - would a brand of chicken broth with no bad stuff in it be a possibility, if there is such a thing?) and then mashing it with salt & pepper using my stick blender. No butter needed, no milk. It's not mashed potatoes, but it is really good. It feels like a decadent, comforting meal, but there is really nothing "bad" in it.
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Post by: Courtney on January 14, 2013, 08:39:53 PM
There is no real peer reviewed scientific evidence to show that systemic candida even exists.

I know, which is why I'm unsure.  But there has to be something to it, considering the yeast infections I get, despite the preventive measures I take.  I just don't think I can entirely do this diet without doing some damage in the form of binge eating, depression, etc. 

Cgraz, I'd love to know your secret for carrots!  And those are all great ideas that I can definitely be on board with, I think I'm also going to try some stuffed peppers using beef and quinoa. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on January 14, 2013, 08:45:20 PM
I know, which is why I'm unsure.  But there has to be something to it, considering the yeast infections I get, despite the preventive measures I take.  I just don't think I can entirely do this diet without doing some damage in the form of binge eating, depression, etc. 

Cgraz, I'd love to know your secret for carrots!  And those are all great ideas that I can definitely be on board with, I think I'm also going to try some stuffed peppers using beef and quinoa. 

I suspect it is your microbial flora (not systemic candida but your entire community of gut flora). There is quite a bit of evidence pointing to an unhealthy (ie abnormal) intestinal flora leading to both IBS and yeast infections. In fact this is the very reason that antibiotics sometimes causes yeast infections and diarrhea, bloating, etc. Ever tried probiotics?

My issues are also likely related to microbial flora hence why my dr was trying to get me to test giving up dairy and why I am actually really trying probiotics for a while.
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Post by: cgraz on January 14, 2013, 08:47:06 PM
For the carrots, I swear they come out better if you use full-size carrots and cut them down into carrot sticks, instead of just using baby carrots. (As much as I love the convenience of the baby carrots...trust me!) So peel and cut your carrots into sticks, then if you can use olive oil toss them in a little of that, just enough to lightly coat them. Lay them on a shallow pan in a single layer (I usually use a cookie sheet lined with non-stick foil, because I hate to wash pans!) and add salt and pepper as you like. Then seal the pan with a top layer of foil for the first 15 minutes of cooking - put them in a 400 degree oven. After 15 minutes, take the foil off, and cook until browned - maybe another 15 minutes? I just kind of keep an eye on them, because I usually have them in the oven with the chicken too.

Cooking them covered first really makes them start to get tender before they brown up and caramelize, so they get that nice roasted flavor without burning by the time they cook through. It makes all the difference!

Between the carrots and the mashed cauliflower, with roasted chicken, this makes a real comfort food kind of meal, and it is all very good for you - just chicken and veggies! This is what we had with my family on Christmas Eve at my sister's, and she didn't really make enough carrots - we were practically fighting over them. When my niece wouldn't eat her carrots, everyone else volunteered to snatch them up so they wouldn't go to waste! LOL. Seriously this has launched carrots up into my top favorite cooked veggies.  :D
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Post by: Run Amok on January 14, 2013, 09:03:59 PM
I have a fridge full of veggies that need eating and am trying to get back with the program of actually cooking. Tonight I'm trying this: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/whole-wheat-spaghetti-50400000122932/ (http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/whole-wheat-spaghetti-50400000122932/)  I might use shallots instead of onions though. Skip the bread crumbs and limit myself to 1 cup of pasta.
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Post by: diablita on January 14, 2013, 10:35:46 PM
cgraz, that sounds delicious.

And Courtney, I'd feel the same way that you do.  Give yourself permission to eat in your healthy (but not uber restrictive) way if you feel the need to binge.  Maybe that will help?
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Post by: diablita on January 14, 2013, 10:45:34 PM
I have a fridge full of veggies that need eating and am trying to get back with the program of actually cooking. Tonight I'm trying this: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/whole-wheat-spaghetti-50400000122932/ (http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/whole-wheat-spaghetti-50400000122932/)  I might use shallots instead of onions though. Skip the bread crumbs and limit myself to 1 cup of pasta.

Looks delicious; please report back.
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Post by: Run Amok on January 14, 2013, 11:02:34 PM
...apparently I will be roasting carrots later this week! I also have some asparagus to eat... that sounds like a good combo!

So, I suck at following recipes and made my own take on it. I carmelized onions, roasted the kale with garlic (then tossed with lemon), cooked pasta- combined these three, then topped with two over easy eggs. Half a head of kale, half an onion, 1 cup of pasta, and 2 eggs made a HUGE bowl of food. I'm taking the other half to lunch tomorro with a field roast sausage. Very tasty combo, will make again. I might try the original recipe sometime but I was roasting some chicken for dd anyway and the whole poaching eggs, blah, blah, blah just was too fussy/too much work for a monday night!
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Post by: cgraz on January 15, 2013, 06:18:11 AM
Nice! Sounds like making your own take on it worked out really well. I love it when that happens...getting inspiration from a certain combination in a recipe and then making it in a way that works with what you like, or the time you have, or what you have on hand.
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Post by: merigayle on January 15, 2013, 07:44:40 AM
There are tests to test the different flora in your gut and one of my patients had NONE of one and has to take some specialized probiotics with this one strain in it. I am not sure what the test was, she went to a local hospital's integrative medicine clinic and they did TONS of tests. If i remember when i am at the office i can look it up and see if i wrote down what test it was, pretty sure i wrote down the specialized probiotic she was taking.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 15, 2013, 08:25:18 AM
I am a big believer in probiotics, and I take one every morning well before I eat anything. I think it has helped my digestion ( I struggle with ibs-c), my skin, my hair, my mood.
I take jarrodophilus brand.

I feed a specific brand to my dogs also, and have noticed a huge difference in Hanks skin, and coat. He no longer itches himself crazy or has foot issues.

And, of course, i continue my love affair with Kefir.  :D

I am off to the gym this morning to meet a friend. Weight circuit and then maybe a swim.

Lunch is lentil, cauliflower curry, apple and peanut butter.

Have a good day all!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on January 15, 2013, 09:09:13 AM
Got on the bike after work yesterday and probably shouldn't have.  Only did a half-hour, but my knee's complaining about it this morning.  Time for a rest day.

Still working on the pumpkin-spinach stuffed shells idea.  And trying to come up with another idea for this weekend. Maybe black eyed peas and kale? (http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2013/01/korean-inspired-black-eyed-peas-and-kale-bowl.html)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 15, 2013, 10:39:12 AM
I suspect it is your microbial flora (not systemic candida but your entire community of gut flora). There is quite a bit of evidence pointing to an unhealthy (ie abnormal) intestinal flora leading to both IBS and yeast infections. In fact this is the very reason that antibiotics sometimes causes yeast infections and diarrhea, bloating, etc. Ever tried probiotics?

My issues are also likely related to microbial flora hence why my dr was trying to get me to test giving up dairy and why I am actually really trying probiotics for a while.

I trust your sciency knowledge, MM!  Tell me about probiotics.  What are you doing?  I've really only heard the buzzword from Jamie Lee Curtis, I know very little about them.  I'll google as well, but I 100% trust you. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 15, 2013, 10:42:10 AM
What, exactly, is Kefir?  Is it something with these magic probiotics?  :D 

cgraz, those carrots sound GOOD.  I shall try those this week if I pick up some carrots! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 15, 2013, 12:05:09 PM
And I'd like to know about the probiotics for your dogs, Mouse.  Poor Eddie gets so itchy in the Spring and Fall.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on January 15, 2013, 12:16:28 PM
Kefir is a fermented milk drink and has tons of probiotics in it.   Way more than yogurt.  It tastes like slightly fizzy runny yogurt (to me).  I love it.  The Liberté brand is really good. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on January 15, 2013, 12:51:46 PM
Anyone see the vegan article in the health section of the NYTimes?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 15, 2013, 01:19:19 PM
And I'd like to know about the probiotics for your dogs, Mouse.  Poor Eddie gets so itchy in the Spring and Fall.
dev.... My vet recommended we try him on them... It has probiotic specific to the canine gut flora in addition to digestive enzymes. It is called iflora pet probiotic. It is in powder form and I sprinkle about 1/8th teaspoon on their evening meal

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 15, 2013, 01:24:44 PM
Kefir is a fermented milk drink and has tons of probiotics in it.   Way more than yogurt.  It tastes like slightly fizzy runny yogurt (to me).  I love it.  The Liberté brand is really good. 
yep!!!  Good stuff!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on January 15, 2013, 01:27:33 PM
Anyone see the vegan article in the health section of the NYTimes?

I did.

(For those who didn't, it's here: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/how-to-go-vegan/ (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/how-to-go-vegan/))
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 15, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
not a bad article!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on January 15, 2013, 02:38:50 PM
I did.

(For those who didn't, it's here: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/how-to-go-vegan/ (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/how-to-go-vegan/))

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Since then, I’ve spoken with numerous vegan chefs and diners who say it can be a challenge to change a lifetime of eating habits overnight.

I don't think it's necessary to make changes overnight.  Make changes gradually.  Not ready to give up sushi?  Don't!  Find a path that works for you.  It might take a month or two to work out the transition, or even longer.  The point is to start the path towards a "plantstrong" (as Mr. Engine #2 calls it) diet. 

She got to the point later, in a way:

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Finally, don’t try to replicate your favorite meaty foods right away. If you love a juicy hamburger, meatloaf or ham sandwich, you are not going to find a meat-free version that tastes the same. Ms. Voisin advises new vegans to start slow and eat a few vegan meals a week. Stock your pantry with lots of grains, lentils and beans and pile your plate with vegetables. To veganize a recipe, start with a dish that is mostly vegan already — like spaghetti — and use vegetables or a meat substitute for the sauce.

And I agree that it's easier to transition with meals that are already mostly vegan - bean burritos, for another example than it is to expect a vegan meal to taste like (or have the mouth feel) of meat or cheese.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 15, 2013, 02:44:31 PM
Ate the other half of my kale pasta for lunch. Yum!

I did.

(For those who didn't, it's here: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/how-to-go-vegan/ (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/how-to-go-vegan/))

Personally, my response was:  ;;}

I think they could have pretty much started and ended with avoiding meat/dairy substitutes for a while. If you can find a "milk" you like, fine (I like the unsweetened coconut milk in the tetra pak, myself)... but the cheeses and the meat substitutes don't taste like meat. So, if you're expecting them to, you will be sorely disappointed.

I wish they would have focused a little more on recommendations of foods that are "naturally" vegan... i.e. not pizza that tastes good even if it's not cheesy and not substituting squash rav for cheese rav and not subbing tofu scrambles for egg scrambles. How about looking, instead, at incorperating whole grains, veggies, and legumes into your diet. Or, building layers of flavor/how to get the best flavor out of your veggies.

I think getting more comfortable with foods that start out vegan, can help reshape your idea of what a meal looks like. One of the biggest challenges for people is often that they conceptualize a "meal" as a protein with some sides. Having a satisfying vegan meal is partly about accepting a new kind of meal.

I kind of thing she just perpetuated the myth that vegans subsist on a bunch of fake crap designed to look/taste like meat/dairy... which really doesn't have to be the case.

My 2 cents worth anyway...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 15, 2013, 02:58:46 PM
dev.... My vet recommended we try him on them... It has probiotic specific to the canine gut flora in addition to digestive enzymes. It is called iflora pet probiotic. It is in powder form and I sprinkle about 1/8th teaspoon on their evening meal



thanks!  researching now...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 15, 2013, 03:04:04 PM


I think getting more comfortable with foods that start out vegan, can help reshape your idea of what a meal looks like. One of the biggest challenges for people is often that they conceptualize a "meal" as a protein with some sides. Having a satisfying vegan meal is partly about accepting a new kind of meal.

I kind of thing she just perpetuated the myth that vegans subsist on a bunch of fake crap designed to look/taste like meat/dairy... which really doesn't have to be the case.

My 2 cents worth anyway...
totally agree. growing up we always had meat as focus of dinner, some potato product and some "vegetable" (i use the term vegetable loosely because ours consisted of canned green beans, canned corn or frozen spinach  :o None of my meals resemble that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on January 15, 2013, 03:07:44 PM
I wish they would have focused a little more on recommendations of foods that are "naturally" vegan... i.e. not pizza that tastes good even if it's not cheesy and not substituting squash rav for cheese rav and not subbing tofu scrambles for egg scrambles. How about looking, instead, at incorperating whole grains, veggies, and legumes into your diet. Or, building layers of flavor/how to get the best flavor out of your veggies.

I think getting more comfortable with foods that start out vegan, can help reshape your idea of what a meal looks like. One of the biggest challenges for people is often that they conceptualize a "meal" as a protein with some sides. Having a satisfying vegan meal is partly about accepting a new kind of meal.

I kind of thing she just perpetuated the myth that vegans subsist on a bunch of fake crap designed to look/taste like meat/dairy... which really doesn't have to be the case.

My 2 cents worth anyway...

I think the people who commented on the article got this point across pretty well (but, of course, it would been nice to have more emphasis on it in the article text). And there were actually a LOT fewer "anti-vegan" comments on this article than on most NYTimes articles that discuss veganism.

I also think that this comment is right on:

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Why does everything have to be 100%. That last 2% is 80% of the effort. Just be 95, or even 90% vegan and I'd wager u get 99.99% of a 100% of the vegan diet heath benefits.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 15, 2013, 03:15:51 PM
Well, I agree and don't agree. If you're going to be vegan, it's kind of about going 100%. But, I'm all about skipping the "manifesto" approach to eating. Eat what you think is right for you... it doesn't have to have a name or rules.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 15, 2013, 03:28:18 PM
Which is why i do and do not like labels. Labels are good so i can say, hey i am vegan, so people know and can accomodate, but seriously, i will eat ice cream, so i am not really vegan. People get so hung up on labels. I know people who have done it different ways-- go whole hog cold turkey vegan and others who eased into it. I think if you eat a standard american diet, going vegan and not eating just junk is hard. It can be a lot more cooking than many are used to and a lot of flavors and textures people are not used to. I look at what we ate growing up and it was pretty darn bland and no though-- meatloaf 2xs a week, steak/burgers 1x, spaghetti 1x, chicken 1x, pizza 1x, dinner at grandmas (chicken or brisket) 1x week. So, yeah, not much variation, pretty bland, not much effort cooking. We did not really eat fast food besides pizza but that may have been more about there being no fast food places in our town growing up :D Oh how things have changed!Imagine going from my mother's menu right into what i eat now-- pad thai, curries, quinoa, lentils and veggies, cashew cheeses, baked tofu, etc. Yeah, quite the shock of flavors, colors, tastes, textures, cooking methods, etc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on January 15, 2013, 03:35:53 PM
Well, I agree and don't agree. If you're going to be vegan, it's kind of about going 100%. But, I'm all about skipping the "manifesto" approach to eating. Eat what you think is right for you... it doesn't have to have a name or rules.

Right. Which is why I would never call myself vegan, but don't have a problem with saying "I eat a mostly vegan diet". Of course, I mostly just keep it to myself unless someone asks.

There are some vegan advocates who say that vegans would be a lot better off if they didn't make it look so hard (i.e. obsessively worrying about an ingredient that makes up <1% of a product, etc). Getting more people to eat "mostly vegan" (or even "sometimes vegan") would be way better for the planet/animals than saying "you're either in or out". (i.e. 100 people eating 80% vegan may be better than 20 people eating 100% vegan)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 15, 2013, 03:41:20 PM
well, obsessively worrying about an ingredient when you make decisions also on moral or religious reasons is not "making it look hard" but everyone can pick the level they feel most comfortable with. DD went to a yoga class Saturday and they had fruit snacks, there was gelatin in them. She had already eaten them, i cannot turn back time, but i did not take any home with us as DD wanted, however, if I know in advance i always bring a substitute or check ingredients. At her old school i brought her own soy milk, but would let her eat yogurt, because i felt like she was excluded enough with her dietary needs and the yogurt was from the farm down the street. I do pick my battles. My neighbors feed her cheetos. I survive. But at the same time, things like gelatin are a HUGE no-no for me and some things have other ingredients like "beef juice" (Hostess cupcakes) that i just cannot overlook. I do not say i make it look hard though, cause i have been doing this for so long and know all the substitutions. As you can see, i always have an answer for MM on non dairy alternatives :D and anyone else looking for non dairy alternatives :D


oh and i want to make this tomorrow. http://veggiegrettie.com/2012/01/27/vegan-dessert-hummus-peanut-butter-chocolate-chip/ (http://veggiegrettie.com/2012/01/27/vegan-dessert-hummus-peanut-butter-chocolate-chip/)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 15, 2013, 03:45:05 PM
beef juice???????
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on January 15, 2013, 03:47:38 PM
well, obsessively worrying about an ingredient when you make decisions also on moral or religious reasons is not "making it look hard" but everyone can pick the level they feel most comfortable with.

I agree, but hard-core vegans who insist on telling others that they're doing it "wrong" because they're eating gelatin or honey or whatever aren't really helping the cause IMHO. I'm certainly not saying that people who want to eat 100% vegan shouldn't do so.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 15, 2013, 03:54:29 PM
I agree, but hard-core vegans who insist on telling others that they're doing it "wrong" because they're eating gelatin or honey or whatever aren't really helping the cause IMHO. I'm certainly not saying that people who want to eat 100% vegan shouldn't do so.
which is where if people are doing it for health reasons, they really do not need to be so stringent with their ingredient checking. And if you cook from scratch, then you do not have to worry :D

just a quick google search for Hostess, here are the ingredients in a twinkie

Enriched wheat flour, sugar, corn syrup, niacin, water, high fructose corn syrup, vegetable and/or animal shortening – containing one or more of partially hydrogenated soybean, cottonseed and canola oil, and beef fat, dextrose, whole eggs, modified corn starch, cellulose gum, whey, leavenings (sodium acid pyrophosphate, baking soda, monocalcium phosphate), salt, cornstarch, corn flour, corn syrup, solids, mono and diglycerides, soy lecithin, polysorbate 60, dextrin, calcium caseinate, sodium stearoyl lactylate, wheat gluten, calcium sulphate, natural and artificial flavors, caramel color, yellow No. 5, red #40.[12]


Though i remember it saying beef juice cause i had to take it home (in college) and make sure it did not say BEET juice.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 15, 2013, 05:03:51 PM
I trust your sciency knowledge, MM!  Tell me about probiotics.  What are you doing?  I've really only heard the buzzword from Jamie Lee Curtis, I know very little about them.  I'll google as well, but I 100% trust you. 

Frankly I am very surprised you naturopath hasn't suggested it. Probiotics are actually really well studied and there are even clinical trials (one of which I was a reseracher on back in grad school).

Basically when looking for a probiotic you want
1) As many cells as possible. Some only have 2 billion cells but frankly that is really low because a lot of the cells are lost going through the stomach. 10-12 billion is far better.
2) A mix of bugs. The common ones are different strains of Bifidobacteria and different strains of lactobacillus. Every company has their own patented strains but most don't have any published research on them so a mix is better.
3) Taking it with dairy can actually protect the cells against the harsh condition of the stomach. Although if you are not doing dairy it comes in pill form that you can take with food.
4) If you want to take it in a yogurt or food product make sure that it is one with ADDED strains (preferrable the 10-12 billion cells mentioned above). What is in the product itself isn't going to be enough to make a difference.
5) Sometimes products also contain prebiotics which are basically just food for the bugs once they get in your body.

I will see if I can find some websites to link to.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 15, 2013, 05:44:31 PM
God, why would you put beef fat in a muffin??? 

Weird. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 15, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
Frankly I am very surprised you naturopath hasn't suggested it. Probiotics are actually really well studied and there are even clinical trials (one of which I was a reseracher on back in grad school).

Basically when looking for a probiotic you want
1) As many cells as possible. Some only have 2 billion cells but frankly that is really low because a lot of the cells are lost going through the stomach. 10-12 billion is far better.
2) A mix of bugs. The common ones are different strains of Bifidobacteria and different strains of lactobacillus. Every company has their own patented strains but most don't have any published research on them so a mix is better.
3) Taking it with dairy can actually protect the cells against the harsh condition of the stomach. Although if you are not doing dairy it comes in pill form that you can take with food.
4) If you want to take it in a yogurt or food product make sure that it is one with ADDED strains (preferrable the 10-12 billion cells mentioned above). What is in the product itself isn't going to be enough to make a difference.
5) Sometimes products also contain prebiotics which are basically just food for the bugs once they get in your body.

I will see if I can find some websites to link to.

What are you doing?  Are you eating yogurt or taking a pill?  I could make smoothies with it in yogurt form (I don't really enjoy eating yogurt, but it's good mixed up with some berries!).  If you are eating it, what specific ones do you recommend? 

Could you hold my hand please?  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 15, 2013, 06:14:10 PM
I know you are addressing Anna... But I use Jarrodophilus brand in pill form. It has multiple strains.

http://www.jarrow.com/product/228/Jarro-Dophilus_EPS (http://www.jarrow.com/product/228/Jarro-Dophilus_EPS)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 15, 2013, 06:16:59 PM
God, why would you put beef fat in a muffin??? 

Weird.

cupcake and let me look up my patient's probiotics.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 15, 2013, 06:17:48 PM
hmmm don't see it in her chart. she is a good friend of mine (and an RD) so let me email her and ask :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 15, 2013, 06:28:20 PM
What are you doing?  Are you eating yogurt or taking a pill?  I could make smoothies with it in yogurt form (I don't really enjoy eating yogurt, but it's good mixed up with some berries!).  If you are eating it, what specific ones do you recommend? 

Could you hold my hand please?  :D 

I am taking a pill since I am trying to cut down on dairy. I am taking the CVS brand one with 10 billion cells. I haven't been taking it long enough to really see an effect though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 15, 2013, 06:41:23 PM
I always thought probiotics had to be in the fridge?

also, most of the non dairy yogurts have probiotics in them too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 15, 2013, 07:27:27 PM
I always thought probiotics had to be in the fridge?

also, most of the non dairy yogurts have probiotics in them too.

Yes, I was told that the better ones were kept in fridge?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 15, 2013, 07:52:34 PM
I always thought probiotics had to be in the fridge?

also, most of the non dairy yogurts have probiotics in them too.

Not necessarily. Lyophilized bacteria do not need to be kept cold.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 15, 2013, 09:15:14 PM
I know you are addressing Anna... But I use Jarrodophilus brand in pill form. It has multiple strains.

http://www.jarrow.com/product/228/Jarro-Dophilus_EPS (http://www.jarrow.com/product/228/Jarro-Dophilus_EPS)

Thank you!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 15, 2013, 09:27:11 PM
God, why would you put beef fat in a muffin??? 

Weird. 

It's confusing grammatically, but it is listed as a subset of ingredients in the shortening. Which is fat. Potentially from animals. So not entirely surprising.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 15, 2013, 09:33:46 PM
I have to share that I have the most horrendous pimple emerging on my forehead.  It's taken days to even slightly get to the surface but it's now almost here.  I had to hide it w/ concealer at a party this weekend. 

I almost never get pimples (a few a year) so when it first started to show as this weird spot that was quickly getting bigger and darker I of course had a worry in the back of my head.  ha!  I wish this thing would just come out and get it over with already.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 16, 2013, 07:31:02 AM
Diablita-- i hate pimples, aren't we too old for that? :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 16, 2013, 07:34:09 AM
I know, right? Wrinkles and pimples (on me!) and it just doesn't seem fair!  >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 16, 2013, 09:58:46 AM
okie dokie, here is her email regarding the probiotics she recommends as an RD

Two kinds.
Theralac - has a patented way to protect the actual bacteria so more gets absorbed http://www.theralac.com/default.aspx (http://www.theralac.com/default.aspx)

Renew Life- has many kinds, good brand, more strains and higher number is what is good, http://www.renewlife.com/probiotic-supplements.html (http://www.renewlife.com/probiotic-supplements.html)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 16, 2013, 11:06:31 AM
There are some vegan advocates who say that vegans would be a lot better off if they didn't make it look so hard (i.e. obsessively worrying about an ingredient that makes up <1% of a product, etc). Getting more people to eat "mostly vegan" (or even "sometimes vegan") would be way better for the planet/animals than saying "you're either in or out". (i.e. 100 people eating 80% vegan may be better than 20 people eating 100% vegan)

This might be true if by eating vegan you hope to change the world. Personally, I don't eat meat because I find it vile. I don't really give a flying fadoo what anyone else eats. I think proseletizing is annoying, no matter the goal.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 16, 2013, 11:45:19 AM
I just ran across this on a blog I read:

http://www.yumuniverse.com/2011/01/31/easy-coconut-kefir-yogurt/ (http://www.yumuniverse.com/2011/01/31/easy-coconut-kefir-yogurt/)

It's about probiotics, so I figured I'd share. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 16, 2013, 11:46:14 AM
I should add that I'm not going to do that, because I'm surpremely lazy, but I figured someone else might be interested!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 16, 2013, 03:37:16 PM
I should add that I'm not going to do that, because I'm surpremely lazy, but I figured someone else might be interested!

For my own curiosity can you ask your naturopath about probiotics next time you see her? I am curious as to her response.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 16, 2013, 04:12:02 PM
For my own curiosity can you ask your naturopath about probiotics next time you see her? I am curious as to her response.

Absolutely.  I'm going to be trying them in the meantime, I think. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on January 16, 2013, 08:03:17 PM
I am going to start probiotics.  I have IBS, and now that you all have brought it up, I feel kind of silly that I hadn't tried before.  Will report back. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 16, 2013, 09:07:34 PM
I am going to start probiotics.  I have IBS, and now that you all have brought it up, I feel kind of silly that I hadn't tried before.  Will report back. 

No worries...I felt silly too. I friggin studied them for my masters thesis and my dumbass didnt consider taking them until my Dr mentioned it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 16, 2013, 11:30:54 PM
I bought some kefir with probiotics today! 

But I'd guess that to be regular (heh) about it, taking a supplement/pill is probably the way to go, huh?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Schrödinger’s Bat on January 17, 2013, 04:42:04 AM
I started taking them around xmas after 2 close together stomach flus.

I am not superwoman...yet. :D   But I have noticed that my heartburn has lessened a bit. I still have it, but it isn't as bad as it has been.
Could be completely coincidental...who knows.

The one thing I was told is to NOT take them with anything hot, especially tea or coffee, as that will kill the bacteria.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 17, 2013, 11:46:17 AM
scale budged down again!  :rah:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on January 17, 2013, 01:10:11 PM
scale budged down again!  :rah:

W00t!

I haven't gotten on the scale yet after vacation.  Tomorrow's the deadly day.  I've eaten well this week, just in portions that are a we bit bigger than they should be.  I've been hungry, and given vacation portions it's been challenging to scale back.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on January 17, 2013, 01:50:43 PM
After two weeks of super religious myfitnesspalling, my scale is budging, too. The first week I was starving because I was used to eating soooo much more. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 17, 2013, 02:27:50 PM
I am always starving and am telling myself that i am not feeling hunger, but it really feels like hunger! LOL. Anywho, laying in bed at night browsing pinterest makes me super hungry too, i feel so silly because i complain to Dh that i am hungry in bed, but here i am looking at pinterest, doh.

And cross your fingers DD did not get sick from her friend yesterday. They were hugging and playing together all day and today her friend is very sick. UGH..
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on January 17, 2013, 08:28:11 PM
Fingers crossed that the germs did NOT transfer.

And I'm laying in bed looking at Pinterest and getting hungry too!  Ha!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 17, 2013, 09:14:07 PM
 :fingers:

I made the most delicious garbanzo salad tonight for dinner tomorrow.  And it was so satisfying: I always buy canned beans but I actually made these from dry and they're so easy and so good.  Why did I never do this before???

The bean salad marinates overnight but it's basically garbanzos with red onion, red pepper and a lemon/parsley vinaigrette with lots of garlic and a splash of cumin and paprika to give it a bit of Moroccan flavor.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 17, 2013, 11:23:35 PM
mmmmm that sounds amazing!

Home-made beans are soooooooo much better than canned. Night and day. They also freeze really well, so you can just make a pot here and there and stick 'em in the freezer. I usually freeze them in 1-2 cup portions.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 18, 2013, 07:26:40 AM
yes, i freeze the extras. I made a whole big batch of chickpeas in the pressure cooker the other night and they were so sweet and tasty freshly made. No more cans ever!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on January 18, 2013, 08:18:11 AM
Didn't gain on vacay!  W00t!



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Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 18, 2013, 10:05:30 AM
Didn't gain on vacay!  W00t!



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Nice!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 18, 2013, 11:12:16 AM
Great job, Mini!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 18, 2013, 11:47:20 AM
Yay Mini!!


Good to know about the beans, ladies.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 18, 2013, 03:44:06 PM
yay Mini!

UGH, DD is home sick and i came home and she requested monkey bread. Lord save me from that evil temptress.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on January 18, 2013, 06:19:10 PM
Didn't gain on vacay!  W00t!



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awesome!!!!


I think hummus made fresh from dried garbanzos is the best.ever.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on January 19, 2013, 08:53:48 AM
yay Mini!

UGH, DD is home sick and i came home and she requested monkey bread. Lord save me from that evil temptress.

I was just looking at a recipe for this last night...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 19, 2013, 10:28:58 AM
I was just looking at a recipe for this last night...
i posted it on FB last night.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on January 19, 2013, 11:10:18 AM
i posted it on FB last night.

Oh.. I wasn't looking at yours!  LOL.. that's funny
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 19, 2013, 12:59:50 PM
Oh.. I wasn't looking at yours!  LOL.. that's funny
i must have read your mind :D or DD did!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 20, 2013, 12:05:56 PM
Yum and i omitted the olive oil
http://ohmyveggies.com/recipe-roasted-cauliflower-hummus/ (http://ohmyveggies.com/recipe-roasted-cauliflower-hummus/)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 20, 2013, 07:16:32 PM
I was hoping you'd post it here.  Thanks!  I pinned it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 21, 2013, 07:02:56 PM
I *always* weigh myself in the morning, however, I took a rare evening shower tonight and since i was naked and in the bathroom, i hopped on,  :nono: +5. Ugh. Sticking to morning weigh ins :D

My eating has been ok. Not super stellar like the past week, but not bad by any means. So I guess good :) i made another batch of cabbage pad thai for week's lunch and a big pot of hot and sour soup. I tried making pita bread and burger buns tonight. The buns, they were for DD, and they were dense. I took a bite, not bad, but DENSE. The recipe said cut into 8, i could have easily gotten ten i think. The pitas were not bad. A little on the dense side, but i only had white whole wheat flour, not white. They puffed up nicely in the oven. I will definitely experiment with that recipe some more.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on January 22, 2013, 10:02:21 AM
I did a lot of stress eating over the weekend, but I'm back on track today so far.  Gotta have something to feel good about. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 22, 2013, 10:39:38 AM
I definitely went off-plan this weekend - didn't even track at all. It's so hard with meals at something like a work conference or meeting. I did have plenty of fresh fruit and salad whenever it was available. But bigger meals than I am used to, plated full breakfast, 3 course lunches with dessert, buffets for a couple of the dinners, etc. And with a cocktail reception each night and wine at dinner, I also had more drinks than I normally would. I did ok with getting out to run on Friday and Sunday during the windows of free time that I could find - it helped that a great beach location made that very appealing! I couldn't wait to get out there.  :)  So we'll see if there is a bump when I get to Friday's weigh in. I'll try to resist weighing myself before then, so I have a chance to offset it with good choices throughout the rest of this week.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: fancypants on January 22, 2013, 10:49:32 AM
I'm making "pizza casseroles" for our church's soup kitchen this morning, and I keep telling myself that if I eat the pepperoni I'm stealing from the homeless. It's not working.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 22, 2013, 10:51:08 AM
 :D

That's too funny.

I would be telling myself that little bites while cooking are part of quality control and don't have any points.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 22, 2013, 01:37:50 PM
stealing from the homeless :D atleast there is good karma in your pepperonis

I am exhausted. 3 hours doing co-op at DD's school, right to the gym, 50 mins on an EFX machine (? i thought it was an elliptical when i hopped on and was too embarrassed to get off) and now at work for a busy day. I need a nap!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 24, 2013, 09:36:22 AM
my weight is up 5lbs today. ate nothing different. wtf  :fiery: midcycle, just post ovulation, so not really hormones to blame.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on January 27, 2013, 08:19:24 AM
Oh, meri I know that horrible feeling!   Grrr!!! 

I've been eating like a horse all weekend.  It's taking all my self-control not to utterly stuff myself.  Luckily I have some good meals planned for the week ahead so if I can avoid snacks I will be ok.   I wish I understood better what makes me want to eat until I feel like bursting and still want to eat more. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 27, 2013, 08:26:38 AM
I would love to know what causes those days where I'm just non-stop hungry.

On the other hand, having been sick all last week, I didn't eat much and was under my daily points pretty much every day. Weird. I think when I'm sick, I also don't really want milky or carby kinds of foods, because they stick in my throat. I tend to eat more fruit and broths and stuff.

So since Thanksgiving I have basically been ping-ponging the same 3-4 pounds back and forth. Now that I have a few weeks with no major celebrations or occasions on my calendar, I'm determined to make the final push for 5 more pounds down to my goal, and then I'll figure out how to maintain.

The trick will be figuring out the best way to eat while training for a half, without going nuts with carbs and stuff and without stuffing myself when I'm hungry after a long run. And I'm planning to swim 1x a week and I always get out of the pool totally ravenous. So I have to make good post-workout food choices.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 27, 2013, 09:18:45 AM
yeah training and eating without gaining is hard!

Yesterday I was back down a few of those pounds, but seriously, grrrrrr.  :grr:

My coworker said to me yesterday "i've been meaning to tell you that you look so healthy and strong lately" that was nice.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 27, 2013, 09:11:09 PM
Between the salt cravings and the ankle/leg swelling, the scale is NOT my friend lately. Holy crap.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 27, 2013, 10:31:03 PM
I did a mine mile run this morning and I survived! I essa bit worried because I haven't done more than six for months bit I was visiting my friend and her group was doing nine. Thankfully they gallowalk so I survived. Yay!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on January 27, 2013, 11:05:08 PM
I would love to know what causes those days where I'm just non-stop hungry.

On the other hand, having been sick all last week, I didn't eat much and was under my daily points pretty much every day. Weird. I think when I'm sick, I also don't really want milky or carby kinds of foods, because they stick in my throat. I tend to eat more fruit and broths and stuff.

So since Thanksgiving I have basically been ping-ponging the same 3-4 pounds back and forth. Now that I have a few weeks with no major celebrations or occasions on my calendar, I'm determined to make the final push for 5 more pounds down to my goal, and then I'll figure out how to maintain.

The trick will be figuring out the best way to eat while training for a half, without going nuts with carbs and stuff and without stuffing myself when I'm hungry after a long run. And I'm planning to swim 1x a week and I always get out of the pool totally ravenous. So I have to make good post-workout food choices.

What half are you doing?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 28, 2013, 12:11:38 AM

The trick will be figuring out the best way to eat while training for a half, without going nuts with carbs and stuff and without stuffing myself when I'm hungry after a long run. And I'm planning to swim 1x a week and I always get out of the pool totally ravenous. So I have to make good post-workout food choices.

Well, as you saw on the other thread. I am in this same boat. I have been STARVING since my 9 yesterday. Starving. And eating everything in sight. Yesterday was pretty rough because I was starving and I would eat, and then my tumy would say "no thank you". I am embarassed to even list everything I ate yesterday.  :-[ So, yeah, I'd like to figure this out. Hoping eating a couple of extra hundred calories every day throughout the week will help.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on January 28, 2013, 07:06:47 AM

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And I'm planning to swim 1x a week and I always get out of the pool totally ravenous. So I have to make good post-workout food choices.

It helped for me to drink a LOT during the workout and then afterwards, too, and to eat a slice of bread afterwards. 

But I admit, one of the reasons why I gave up swimming is the hunger, although I had more problems with itchy skin.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 28, 2013, 07:14:02 AM
What half are you doing?

www.mdhalfmarathon.com (http://www.mdhalfmarathon.com)

My sister lives down in MD, and she talked me into doing my first half, so we are doing it together. She says it's a nice course, not so hilly like the RW Half! It's a ways off - May - so I have a good amount of time.  :)

RA, I don't know if it's a matter of better/more calories before, and then also something more satisfying after. With WW, it's kind of loose how they count activity points vs. calories, so it's not too scientific as far as counting calories. I'm also going to focus more on ongoing hydration - not just right before or during a workout. I think that contributes to my hungry feelings after.

Ice Cream, that fits in with what you're saying too - more water! I think I'll also throw a small bar in my bag - I like the Special K cereal bars for cutting right into hunger but not upsetting my stomach. I'll either have a little bit shortly before swimming or have it to nibble right after, so I don't have to feel hungry all the way home and let it get out of control.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: debbatx on January 28, 2013, 11:38:07 AM
Aaaaand, the scale is back down a few this morning. I guess getting up to pee 5 times a night is helping.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 28, 2013, 12:02:59 PM
Trader Joes stopped carrying my bread. Grrrr!

They claim they replaced it but the replacement has double the calories and isnt even the same type of bread.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 28, 2013, 12:47:59 PM
Trader Joes stopped carrying my bread. Grrrr!

They claim they replaced it but the replacement has double the calories and isnt even the same type of bread.

What one do you like? I like their sprouted wheat fiber bread. It's 90cal/slice- but they are big slices, so I just use one and cut it in half. I also buy the sara lee delightful wheat- which is 45 calories/slice. DD likes that one better.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 28, 2013, 02:39:14 PM
What one do you like? I like their sprouted wheat fiber bread. It's 90cal/slice- but they are big slices, so I just use one and cut it in half. I also buy the sara lee delightful wheat- which is 45 calories/slice. DD likes that one better.

Its a local bread company called alverado street bakery and they make a flax seed wheat bread that is just perfect (not sweet, a little crunch, and 90 cals for 2 slices).

(http://www.alvaradostreetbakery.com/images/uploaded/1291794463Essential-Flax-Seed-Bread_thumb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 28, 2013, 02:40:04 PM
no long run due to DD's school closing for snow we never got.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 28, 2013, 02:45:40 PM
Its a local bread company called alverado street bakery and they make a flax seed wheat bread that is just perfect (not sweet, a little crunch, and 90 cals for 2 slices).

(http://www.alvaradostreetbakery.com/images/uploaded/1291794463Essential-Flax-Seed-Bread_thumb1.jpg)

My parents were part of the original coop that started that bakery... my mom designed their logo.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 28, 2013, 02:46:40 PM
You might have to go to a healthfood store to find it. I can find it in the refridgerated section of our local healthfood coop (it comes in frozen).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on January 30, 2013, 12:08:34 PM
Probiotic update:   

I've been taking them for a week and I feel less bloated.  Also (TMI!) have had more formed stools.

I'll update again after it's been a month.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 30, 2013, 12:14:49 PM
That's awesome! Glad it seems to be working!

MM- are you taking them also?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on January 30, 2013, 12:43:03 PM
Probiotic update:   

I've been taking them for a week and I feel less bloated.  Also (TMI!) have had more formed stools.

I'll update again after it's been a month.

What did you end up taking?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 30, 2013, 12:46:00 PM
Good news!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 30, 2013, 12:48:35 PM
That's awesome! Glad it seems to be working!

MM- are you taking them also?

Yes but I ran out so I need to get more. I think they are helping.

Also turns out I am not gluten intolerant.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on January 30, 2013, 01:00:19 PM
What did you end up taking?

Renew Life Ultimate Flora Adult Formula
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042L1S1S/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042L1S1S/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 30, 2013, 01:37:57 PM
... well no wonder your tummy wasn't thrilled with you after chowder and mac & cheese!

Oops! Misread that. Glad you are not gluten intollerant, that would suck!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 30, 2013, 02:04:23 PM
Yes but I ran out so I need to get more. I think they are helping.

Also turns out I am not gluten intolerant.
well atleast you do not have to ditch gluten!

and i noticed my scale can have  variation of 5 lbs depending on how i stand on the scale. UGH.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 31, 2013, 12:36:05 PM
I an proud of myself for getting up early to run in the morning today. I am never successful at getting up early and I despise morning runs buying am going out with coworkers tonight to celebrate one of our undergrads getting into the grad program so now I won't feel guilty tonight.

By the way this kids story is amazing to me. He moved to the us from China at sixteen six years ago speaking almost no English. He had problems with the high school because th hey put him in ninth grade and went teaching him English so he dropped out and went to adult school and got his ged. He then went to community college and transferred to Berkeley (a top university) and now he is accepted into one of the top five programs in the country for grad school. Amazing!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on January 31, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
That is a very cool story, wow!

And way to go for getting the run in early and now being able to go out and enjoy the evening. Very nice! I am still working on making better use of morning time to get runs in, and not having much success just yet.

I think I am within about a pound of my goal weight and I feel funny about it. Like I will be afraid to stop doing WW because I'll gain back. I'll have to wrap my head around sensible maintaining and not continual dieting.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on January 31, 2013, 12:41:30 PM
That's awesome, MG! I found that college was a much better learning environment than high school for me, as well. I did something similar- didn't finish high school and went straight to college. I didn't need to get my GED, just pass basica skills evals for my tuition assistance.

Good for you for doing morning runs. I like the idea of morning weekday runs but...yeah...never happens!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on January 31, 2013, 12:47:46 PM
They never happen for me either.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 31, 2013, 02:12:56 PM
good job MM, i need to get on that early morning kick again. ugh.

so i am really frustrated that the scale won't budge. I am ODing on cabbage and soup and everything healthy. I am not perfect diet wise, but pretty damn close. I am considering trying to eliminate all grains and see if that has an effect, if you think it may? (the collective you). I do eat brown rice, oatmeal and quinoa, probably 1-2 servings a day, closer to one, generally at bfast. I really do not know what else to do beside starve myself. (which i do not want to do.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: leggova on January 31, 2013, 11:41:25 PM
good job MM, i need to get on that early morning kick again. ugh.

so i am really frustrated that the scale won't budge. I am ODing on cabbage and soup and everything healthy. I am not perfect diet wise, but pretty damn close. I am considering trying to eliminate all grains and see if that has an effect, if you think it may? (the collective you). I do eat brown rice, oatmeal and quinoa, probably 1-2 servings a day, closer to one, generally at bfast. I really do not know what else to do beside starve myself. (which i do not want to do.)

You say this constantly that you are nearly starving yourself. Have you actually tracked all your calories religiously over a period of time? I mean everything, even taking bites of your kids plate etc. I find that I can fool myself VERY easily in terms of the number of calories I am consuming and it is only when I really track it that I lose weight consistently. But that means tracking EVERYTHING. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 01, 2013, 07:03:19 AM

so i am really frustrated that the scale won't budge. I am ODing on cabbage and soup and everything healthy. I am not perfect diet wise, but pretty damn close. I am considering trying to eliminate all grains and see if that has an effect, if you think it may? (the collective you). I do eat brown rice, oatmeal and quinoa, probably 1-2 servings a day, closer to one, generally at bfast.

If you place oatmeal in a glass of water, it absorbs the water.  If you put a piece of salmon or tempeh in water, it does not absorb as much water.  The same happens when it's in your body.

Whenever I visit my family for a few weeks, I eat less grains and more protein, basically in the form of salmon. I lose weight in pounds. When I come back, I get back to what I weighed before I left, because I get back into the grains.  I do not eat more overall calories here.  Grains, however, absorb water, whereas the protein does not.  I assume I just retain less water at my family's place.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2013, 07:14:10 AM
You say this constantly that you are nearly starving yourself. Have you actually tracked all your calories religiously over a period of time? I mean everything, even taking bites of your kids plate etc. I find that I can fool myself VERY easily in terms of the number of calories I am consuming and it is only when I really track it that I lose weight consistently. But that means tracking EVERYTHING. :)
I have not tracked recently in the past few weeks, but I can try it again, though when I track, i really do not see any changes with my weightloss. And that is every bite. I generally find I will lose weight if i go under 1000 cals/day. If i am training A LOT, i can get away with a little more but that SUCKS.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 01, 2013, 07:31:34 AM
Or might it be that your body is telling you something?  I guess, from your posts, that you are at a healthy weight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2013, 07:32:18 AM
Or might it be that your body is telling you something?  I guess, from your posts, that you are at a healthy weight.
I guess I am technically at a healthy weight, but for me, I feel really fat, I am 10 pounds above my prepregnancy weight and almost 20 pounds above my racing weight, and i was NOT underweight then.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 01, 2013, 07:50:23 AM
Is it not so much about the weight, but leanness or muscle tone? Fitness? I don't necessarily weigh less now than I did when I got married and was as thin as I've ever been...but I feel as if I do, because I am much more fit and toned. Sometimes there is more to it than the number of pounds.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2013, 07:56:30 AM
Is it not so much about the weight, but leanness or muscle tone? Fitness? I don't necessarily weigh less now than I did when I got married and was as thin as I've ever been...but I feel as if I do, because I am much more fit and toned. Sometimes there is more to it than the number of pounds.
definitely not muscle! I feel like jello, LOL. I have been trying to do some weights, but when i say weights i mean 8 & 5lbs :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on February 01, 2013, 05:14:00 PM
If you are at a healthy weight and want to change your body, you need to lift heavy (heavier) weights.  Building muscle feels incredible. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 01, 2013, 05:22:56 PM
If you place oatmeal in a glass of water, it absorbs the water.  If you put a piece of salmon or tempeh in water, it does not absorb as much water.  The same happens when it's in your body.

Whenever I visit my family for a few weeks, I eat less grains and more protein, basically in the form of salmon. I lose weight in pounds. When I come back, I get back to what I weighed before I left, because I get back into the grains.  I do not eat more overall calories here.  Grains, however, absorb water, whereas the protein does not.  I assume I just retain less water at my family's place.

Ok, I can't explain the science of it, but my understanding is that it goes deeper than this. That the glycogen (maybe?) actually holds onto water and when we eat less carbs there is less glycogen in our bodies which translates into less water... i.e. water weight. But... I don't think I'm explaining it exactly correctly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2013, 06:21:42 PM
If you are at a healthy weight and want to change your body, you need to lift heavy (heavier) weights.  Building muscle feels incredible.
i do not want to be this weight but 10-20 lbs lighter a i was prepregnancy. There is a huge weight range for healthy weight at my height and i am well in that range but on the upper side. I really do notwant to sy what i weigh but it is tooooo high or racing and almost four years after having DD i really want to get more competitive at my races but patience is wearing thin.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 01, 2013, 06:34:56 PM
Have you thought about talking with a nutritionist? It seems like MoS had a great experience in working with one and she got good results. Maybe that would help sort out what has you stuck at that weight, and what can prepare you for more training.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2013, 06:57:32 PM
Have you thought about talking with a nutritionist? It seems like MoS had a great experience in working with one and she got good results. Maybe that would help sort out what has you stuck at that weight, and what can prepare you for more training.
I have in the past and the only one that helped cost $350 for the first visit and $250 for the follow ups :( The other ones suck. My friend who is an RD has no advice for me except she is convinced i have an undiagnosed thyroid issue but no tests have shown anything, so what can i really do about it?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 01, 2013, 06:59:08 PM
meri- what about just trying the meds. Some people have had that work for them, even if their thyroid #'s are within scope. My understandign with thyroid is that it could be "low for you" but not "low for the average", if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 01, 2013, 07:33:55 PM
Ok, I can't explain the science of it, but my understanding is that it goes deeper than this. That the glycogen (maybe?) actually holds onto water and when we eat less carbs there is less glycogen in our bodies which translates into less water... i.e. water weight. But... I don't think I'm explaining it exactly correctly.

I think we are saying the same thing...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 01, 2013, 08:11:39 PM
meri- what about just trying the meds. Some people have had that work for them, even if their thyroid #'s are within scope. My understandign with thyroid is that it could be "low for you" but not "low for the average", if that makes sense.
How to talk dr into that?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on February 02, 2013, 07:47:28 AM
I still think weight training will help change the composition and shape of your body.   And building muscle helps your metabolism.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on February 02, 2013, 08:03:34 AM
I still think weight training will help change the composition and shape of your body.   And building muscle helps your metabolism.

Yes, it definitely does.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 02, 2013, 08:06:19 AM
I still think weight training will help change the composition and shape of your body.   And building muscle helps your metabolism.

Yep, caito is wise.

Plus, for me, more than anything else has, it has changed the way I feel. I didn't lift weights, but have built up core strength and muscle, and my arms are toned - all from yoga, and now pilates too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 02, 2013, 10:22:16 AM
I still think weight training will help change the composition and shape of your body.   And building muscle helps your metabolism.

Any thoughts on this?

http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/can-you-really-boost-your-metabolism?page=single (http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/can-you-really-boost-your-metabolism?page=single)

I am in the camp that it does not make significant help, 30-50 calories a day at the most.  (I do upper body weight work myself.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 02, 2013, 01:42:03 PM
Any thoughts on this?

http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/can-you-really-boost-your-metabolism?page=single (http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/can-you-really-boost-your-metabolism?page=single)

I am in the camp that it does not make significant help, 30-50 calories a day at the most.  (I do upper body weight work myself.)
I dunno about the metabolism.. all I know is when I strength train and feel lean and strong I feel  better about my body, which makes me feel better mentally, which makes me feel like I want to eat better and more healthfully... it's like a chicken and egg thing.. or a circle.. they all work together...

I do think that having more muscle helps me to run faster times... if that is a goal.. The oxygen gets processed more efficiently and lactate threshold is met later..
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 04, 2013, 11:22:49 AM
I still think weight training will help change the composition and shape of your body.   And building muscle helps your metabolism.

agree. 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 05, 2013, 08:35:53 PM
I was at the gym today and hopped on the scale with my sweatsuit on before I changed into my workout clothes. A woman saw me do it and commented at how brave I was to do it so fully clothed, lol! Anywho, I weighed the same as naked in my house! Effing scales all lie.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 06, 2013, 09:58:08 AM
I'm sure all scales have slight variations, are calibrated differently or might be a little off as compared to each other. I figure as long as I always use the same scale to weigh myself, I am getting a good representation of how much I've lost, etc. I always weigh myself at the same time of day each week and wearing the same thing (or not wearing, really  :P ).

So how do you guys figure out where your goal is and when you're switching into a maintenance kind of mode? I hit one goal, then made a lower one...hit that, then made a lower one. I think I'll hit that soon, and part of me wants to push for 5 more to hit a slightly lower one. Part of me still feels like there is weight to lose, and part of me feels like this is a pretty good place to be. But I don't really know. Just 5 more is enticing but would be a pretty low weight for me. OTOH, I am also eating well and exercising more than I ever have, so why wouldn't I push for a lower goal than I have had in the past?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 06, 2013, 10:33:39 AM
not sure, will let you know when i hit my goal :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 06, 2013, 10:51:28 AM
Cgraz, I did kind of the same thing...and I stopped when I got to a weight I was comfortable and felt sustainable. You'll get to a weight that will be very challenging to maintain and that is probably a little too low. Personally, I want to be able to have french fries and beer, from time to time, and not feel guilty about it!

I started at 155lbs. Initially I wanted to get to 140. I had gained and lost that 15lbs a number of times. So, my first goal was just to get there. I felt that 135 might be sustainable for me. When I got there- I set my eyes on dropping below 130. Both 140 and 130 were places I got stuck for a good while. But, when I broke through 130, I had hope that I might get to 120, which is what I weighed when I got married. I ended up getting pretty close over the summer (on the devastation diet... I don't recommend it). Since then I've just tried to stay around 125... which is possible for me if I eat well most of the time and leaves me some room for splurging. Now that I'm running a lot more, I've bumped up my calories and... we'll see. I won't lie and say I'm not worried about gaining some weight. Though, it's not so much about weight as it is fitting in my clothes.

I seem to have lost any concept of my body image though... it's the stranges thing. Every day when I put on smaller clothes than I used to be able to wear, I'm sure they are not going to fit. When I go shopping, I always grab a size or two too big. Some of this is just store size. In some stores, size 2's are a little loose. In other stores, I can barely squeeze myself into a 4.

So, I don't know what the answer is for you... but I think you'll figure it out!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 06, 2013, 11:06:17 AM
Thanks, RA...that sounds very similar to my pattern and my numbers.

I started at 164 in July, and initially WW set the standard 10% body weight goal for me, so after I hit that then I bumped it down for a little longer reach to a goal of 135, which was always a "good" weight for me without much effort or special consideration to diet or exercise. I hit a bit under that and figured I'd try for 130...and right around then I hit the ping-pong of Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Year's and basically swapped the same 2-3 pounds back and forth for a few weeks.

So now I'm right about to hit 130 dead on (or even a hair under) and I am debating trying for 125. That would be a number I haven't seen in a very long time...maybe when I got married, although back then I never weighed myself and wasn't exercising (was living on Special K and stress), so whatever the number is, I feel more fit now than I did then.

I'm just not sure if 125 might be that "too low" number where I have to constantly work for it and I start to feel deprived or can't indulge and enjoy food. This is definitely the point where smaller increments of loss take more work, in general. I think exercise is the biggest variable in how that will work, since I am doing a lot more of that now and will be eating differently as that continues.

ETA...and the body image thing is definitely something I related to. I was in a store the other day and could not bring myself to pick up a pair of size 4 pants to try on, even though I have resurrected some of the size 4's in my closet. It's like I don't quite believe it...although I do still wear 6's too, and everything seems to vary in terms of fit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 06, 2013, 12:25:38 PM
Nice work! Losing close to 40lbs in 6-7 months is a real accomplishment!

I don't think there is anything wrong with going for 125. Unless you are 5'10"+ 125 is definitely not into scary-skinny territory. If you get there and it's tough to maintain... than you know. I also think that if your sick of the discipline required to keep losing, and you want to take a break, that is fine too. You can always come back to it and continue to work your way down.

I may still try and go for 120 at some point. I'm focussed a bit more on my running/training right now and not as worried about my weight. And, of course, a fit 125 is thinner than a sedentary one... so there is also that. I think when I got down to 120 before I got married I met J and wasn't working out as consistently so I lost some weight just in losing muscle. That was 10 years ago, so I could be misremembering that also...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 06, 2013, 07:04:58 PM
Thanks!

There are moments where I get tired of "being on a diet" for so long, but overall I am used to eating this way and it is comfortable. So yeah, I'll see. For my height (5'3") being 125 would be fine, although I've always said I have a large frame so the 130's felt fine, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on February 06, 2013, 10:24:03 PM
I'm easing my way back to better eating and sort of started the "i-Diet" today.  I did the breakfast menu but then winged it for the rest b/c I have to go grocery shopping.

Dinner was a soup I threw together that was super delicious.  I made an adaptation of a white bean and chard (instead of escarole) soup that I pureed a bit to make it thick.  It was really delicious.  I am really loving using dry beans.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 07, 2013, 07:19:28 AM
How do you prep the beans? Did you use a crock pot? I love soups with white beans (usually involving sausage, LOL) and would love to try making them from scratch because I've always used canned and everyone says making your own is so much better.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 07, 2013, 08:02:39 AM
Do you have a pressure cooker? That makes it simple. I made chickpeas the other day and it was 24 minutes, not soaked!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2013, 09:51:47 AM
If you don't have a pressure cooker, the beans just need to soak over night. You can also bring them to a boil, then turn the stove off and let them sit for 2 hours. That works, but it doesn't rehydrate them evenly, so over night is best.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on February 07, 2013, 12:36:52 PM
I don't have a p.cooker so I just let them soak overnight.  I'm not a good plan-aheader (like my word choice today?) but I'm starting to get better b/c the beans are SO much more delicious.

Here's the soup recipe:

White Bean Soup with Chard or Escarole


Soak 1 lb dry cannelini beans in a pot of cold water (to cover by a couple of inches) overnight

The next day drain and rinse the beans.  Add 4 cups water and 4 cups veg broth and 1/4 cup vegetable oil (not totally necessary but my MIL's version has a lot of oil and Philip likes at least some).  Add 6 whole cloves garlic and grate 1/2 small onion into the pot and bring to a boil.  Lower to a simmer and cook until the beans are soft.  Take a stick blender and puree the soup until somewhat smooth or put half in a blender (in batches).

Add 1 tsp cumin and 1 tsp paprika plus salt & pepper to taste.  Add finely sliced chard or escarole and cook for a bit longer until slightly wilted.
(rainbow chard would probably make it fun for kids).  I also added a splash of balsamic vinegar.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 07, 2013, 12:42:03 PM
Beans freeze really well, that helps with the lack of planning ahead, LOL.

So I want to do more date nights with DH but not at the risk of my diet. It sucks. I guess I could always just get steamed veggies or something, but then DH gets all pouty but i tell him i am not there for the food, but for the company!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 07, 2013, 01:15:05 PM
Yep, I'm with merigayle- I freeze them and that helps. I make a big bactch of beans and then I freez them in 1-2 cup portions, which is perfect for soup making. :) I also love beans with roasted veggies and with pasta too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on February 07, 2013, 01:20:19 PM
My dinner was SO GOOD last night.  In theory I was making an Italian sausage marsala dish that I'd made before and not liked all that much (but I had Italian sausage in the freezer and some leftover green and red bell pepper from having made the shrimp and grits Sunday).

But then I couldn't get the recipe to come up, and so I winged it.  I also couldn't find marsala wine at Publix, so I bought grenache, which sometimes tastes sweet to me and figured it would have to do.  It was SO VERY VERY GOOD, so I am sharing.

Chopped red and green bell pepper - maybe 1/3-1/4 of each - it was leftover so not really sure.
1/2 chopped yellow onion
5 Italian sausages
4 roma tomatoes
maybe a tablespoon and a half of dried Greek oregano (from my old garden)
probably a tablespoon and a half of garlic (from a squeeze bottle or jar)
some basil
some salt
some pepper
grenache red wine

Took a little olive oil and started the peppers, onions, and garlic in a big frying pan first.  Added the rest as we got the tomatoes sliced and the rest of the ingredients out.  Added red wine.  Stirred here and there.

Started the sausages separately in a different frying pan with some water.  Package said to cook 15 minutes covered.  Turned them once.  Then added the sausages to the other stuff.  Added more wine.  Covered and cooked until rest of wine was absorbed.

Served over 1/2 box of cooked (duh) vegetable rotini.

It was really really good.  I will totally make this again.  The boy liked it too.

I always surprise myself when I cook something and it turns out well, ESPECIALLY if I'm winging it.  I'm so not a cook.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 08, 2013, 01:54:56 PM
Merigayle!!!    We watched "running on the sun" last night. It made me think of you.
 How many years have you done that race?! 

I mean... I know how awesome you are but seeing that movie really compounded it!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on February 08, 2013, 01:59:01 PM
It always makes me LOL when I find silly nutrition things.  I like drinking the Starbucks VIA Refreshers from time to time and wanted to check the calorie count since I was in the mood to have one.  Apparently the calories per serving are 35...per 1/2 packet.  :eyeroll:  So the instructions show that you should pour a packet into 16 oz. of water BUT they don't want you to know that this is 70 calories.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 08, 2013, 02:44:05 PM
Merigayle!!!    We watched "running on the sun" last night. It made me think of you.
 How many years have you done that race?! 

I mean... I know how awesome you are but seeing that movie really compounded it!!!
i have run it twice an crewed twice, my fave movie :D we quote it a lot out there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 08, 2013, 04:13:02 PM
It always makes me LOL when I find silly nutrition things.  I like drinking the Starbucks VIA Refreshers from time to time and wanted to check the calorie count since I was in the mood to have one.  Apparently the calories per serving are 35...per 1/2 packet.  :eyeroll:  So the instructions show that you should pour a packet into 16 oz. of water BUT they don't want you to know that this is 70 calories.

I hate that sort of thing!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 08, 2013, 05:25:44 PM
i have run it twice an crewed twice, my fave movie :D we quote it a lot out there.
I really enjoyed it. The marines were awesome. Do you know if he ever tried again?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 08, 2013, 05:44:51 PM
I really enjoyed it. The marines were awesome. Do you know if he ever tried again?
i know he finished atleast once. Chris moon was there this year, lisa smith was my running coach, dan jensen is there almost every year and has never seen the movie and jack dennes is there every year helping out. Go read kirk johnson's book To The Edge! I have probably seen that movie over 100 times!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on February 08, 2013, 06:14:20 PM
i know he finished atleast once. Chris moon was there this year, lisa smith was my running coach, dan jensen is there almost every year and has never seen the movie and jack dennes is there every year helping out. Go read kirk johnson's book To The Edge! I have probably seen that movie over 100 times!
I  will read it.
Chris moon is such an inspiration, and I loved jack dennes and his wife. I was surprised by how attached I got to all the runners.  Maybe because of you I felt more invested or something. Anyway it was a very good documentary. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 08, 2013, 06:16:15 PM
It is a great movie albeit outdated (a lot of rule changes, etc) but my favorite badwater movie by far. And the woman who won the race, raced with her twin sister and a couple years ago her sister was competing in a tri and was hit by a car an died. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on February 10, 2013, 09:10:45 AM
Today is day 3 or 4 of eating the "i" Diet breakfast (I've been following more loosely for the rest of the day) and I have to say, I really enjoy it.  I eat 1/3 - 1/2 cup of Bran Buds + the 2 tbls of granola (I found this Carrot Cake Love brand at Earth Fare) and coconut milk.  I'll also add that it is VERY cleansing.  I had plenty of fiber in my diet before but this takes it to a whole new level.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 10, 2013, 11:32:47 AM
That does sounds like a good way to start your day!  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 10, 2013, 05:14:08 PM
i went out to lunch with some friends, including MoS, and DD. I logged everything i ate. I sat there at the table and logged :D we went to the sushi buffet and i did my best to log everything. I did good. Only one roll (1 order of avocado roll), lots of salads, and mostly fruit for dessert. I had a couple bites of the dessert, but no soft serve or cookies :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 10, 2013, 07:26:11 PM
i went out to lunch with some friends, including MoS, and DD. I logged everything i ate. I sat there at the table and logged :D we went to the sushi buffet and i did my best to log everything. I did good. Only one roll (1 order of avocado roll), lots of salads, and mostly fruit for dessert. I had a couple bites of the dessert, but no soft serve or cookies :D

I didn't log.. I just added quick added calories, but I didn't want to log.. At least I ran ten miles before hand.. thank god.. because I had two plates of food and two small plates of  dessert!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 10, 2013, 07:47:43 PM
I didn't log.. I just added quick added calories, but I didn't want to log.. At least I ran ten miles before hand.. thank god.. because I had two plates of food and two small plates of  dessert!!!
You did not do too bad!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 21, 2013, 11:52:16 AM
Update on the probiotics thing...  I had my annual Ob/Gyn appt yesterday, and I talked to her about my tummy issues, and my skepticism around a low-yeast diet, etc...  she asked if I'd tried probiotics, and suggested that I give it a go as well.  So off I went to Walgreens where I picked something up.  I took the first one this morning, so I'll let y'all know how it goes.  SG, MM, are you guys still taking them?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 21, 2013, 01:35:10 PM
good luck, i hope it helps!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on February 21, 2013, 02:49:03 PM
Update on the probiotics thing...  I had my annual Ob/Gyn appt yesterday, and I talked to her about my tummy issues, and my skepticism around a low-yeast diet, etc...  she asked if I'd tried probiotics, and suggested that I give it a go as well.  So off I went to Walgreens where I picked something up.  I took the first one this morning, so I'll let y'all know how it goes.  SG, MM, are you guys still taking them?

So my med insurance forced me to go to a two hour group GI class for people with IBS (a two hour class about poop!). I thought it would be a waste of time and it mostly was but I learned a few things. The presenters were a dietician, a GI doc, and a psychologist.

The dietician went on and on and on about upping fiber (which I already knew but I already eat a ton) and talked about avoiding foods one at a time as a test for 2 weeks (dairy and wheat being the two big ones). The GI doc talked about probiotics. She basically siad that everyone with IBS issues should try them for a full bottle and then continue with them on a much less frequent basis (once a week or so) if they appear to be working. If they don't appear to be working she suggested switching brands as they all include different strains. She did mention the yeast thing (which surprised me since I think it is mostly woo) but also suggested probiotics as the cure for it.  :d

I took probiotics for a full course and it did seem to help (TMI: my poops were finally regularly solid for the first time in maybe years)...but I ran out and need to get more as my symptoms are back. I only did a short 15 day course though which wasnt really long enough.

The GI doc also explained why the pain and bloating which I never really knew. Apparently if your poops are normal they trap the gas inside and eliminate in as part of the feces (which is why healthy poops float). People who have too hard or soft poops dont get the gas trapped and it stays in the upper portion of your intestine (because gas rises). Then your body tries to get it out by contracting and cramping (which doesn't work very well) so you end up in pain and bloated. When you sleep the gas can escape better because you are lying down which is why issues with pain are generally worse later in the day.

The psychologist indicated that depression, anxiety, and stress are highly linked and taught relaxation exercises. She and the GI doc also noted that anti depressents in very small doses can actually help with GI problems in people who dont have depression which I thought was interesting.

The GI doc also said that it is unlikely a Dr will ever be able to solve IBS issues and you kind of just have to play around with diet and suggestions until you come up with a personalized solution.  >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on February 21, 2013, 02:56:10 PM

The GI doc also explained why the pain and bloating which I never really knew. Apparently if your poops are normal they trap the gas inside and eliminate in as part of the feces (which is why healthy poops float). People who have too hard or soft poops dont get the gas trapped and it stays in the upper portion of your intestine (because gas rises). Then your body tries to get it out by contracting and cramping (which doesn't work very well) so you end up in pain and bloated. When you sleep the gas can escape better because you are lying down which is why issues with pain are generally worse later in the day.


Mine is usually worst in the morning, but there are two reasons (1) I have sinus drainage and swallow a lot of air at night to clear it, which isn't (as) necessary when I am upright and (2) I tend to sleep curled up on my side which helps keep it trapped.  I usually lie flat on my back for a while in the morning before I get up for real and some will work through.  Regular exercise (in particular running) help a LOT.  I knew I was having trapped gas.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on February 21, 2013, 03:24:41 PM
That's interesting, MM! I wouldn't have thought that fiber would be good for ibs because it can definitely loosen things up!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 21, 2013, 05:29:13 PM
So my med insurance forced me to go to a two hour group GI class for people with IBS (a two hour class about poop!). I thought it would be a waste of time and it mostly was but I learned a few things. The presenters were a dietician, a GI doc, and a psychologist.

The dietician went on and on and on about upping fiber (which I already knew but I already eat a ton) and talked about avoiding foods one at a time as a test for 2 weeks (dairy and wheat being the two big ones). The GI doc talked about probiotics. She basically siad that everyone with IBS issues should try them for a full bottle and then continue with them on a much less frequent basis (once a week or so) if they appear to be working. If they don't appear to be working she suggested switching brands as they all include different strains. She did mention the yeast thing (which surprised me since I think it is mostly woo) but also suggested probiotics as the cure for it.  :d

I took probiotics for a full course and it did seem to help (TMI: my poops were finally regularly solid for the first time in maybe years)...but I ran out and need to get more as my symptoms are back. I only did a short 15 day course though which wasnt really long enough.

The GI doc also explained why the pain and bloating which I never really knew. Apparently if your poops are normal they trap the gas inside and eliminate in as part of the feces (which is why healthy poops float). People who have too hard or soft poops dont get the gas trapped and it stays in the upper portion of your intestine (because gas rises). Then your body tries to get it out by contracting and cramping (which doesn't work very well) so you end up in pain and bloated. When you sleep the gas can escape better because you are lying down which is why issues with pain are generally worse later in the day.

The psychologist indicated that depression, anxiety, and stress are highly linked and taught relaxation exercises. She and the GI doc also noted that anti depressents in very small doses can actually help with GI problems in people who dont have depression which I thought was interesting.

The GI doc also said that it is unlikely a Dr will ever be able to solve IBS issues and you kind of just have to play around with diet and suggestions until you come up with a personalized solution.  >:(

Very interesting info. 

I'm going to take the probiotics for a month at least, since that is how many pills I got. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on February 21, 2013, 06:30:40 PM
I started taking probiotics a few weeks ago because I just kept feeling bloated and uncomfortable in the late afternoons.  And it seems to be working! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 22, 2013, 09:39:25 AM
I started taking probiotics a few weeks ago because I just kept feeling bloated and uncomfortable in the late afternoons.  And it seems to be working! 

What do you take and where do you get them?  Any special kind I should be on the look out for?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 22, 2013, 09:59:09 AM
What do you take and where do you get them?  Any special kind I should be on the look out for?
Go to Whole Foods and ask them.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on February 22, 2013, 10:27:32 AM
I just grabbed a box off the shelf at CVS.  They are not cheap.   I think I have the Culturelle brand, or something like that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on February 22, 2013, 10:40:04 AM
I just grabbed a box off the shelf at CVS.  They are not cheap.   I think I have the Culturelle brand, or something like that.

That was the one the gastroenterologist recommended!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on February 22, 2013, 10:44:56 AM
Oh good!  That was a lucky guess!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 22, 2013, 11:08:27 AM
Go to Whole Foods and ask them.

I mean why would I need to take them if I have no issues?  I think I get all the fermentation I need from all the kimchee I eat!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 22, 2013, 11:34:58 AM
I mean why would I need to take them if I have no issues?  I think I get all the fermentation I need from all the kimchee I eat!
then you don't need to take them :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on February 22, 2013, 12:28:39 PM
I mean why would I need to take them if I have no issues?  I think I get all the fermentation I need from all the kimchee I eat!

If you are feeling fine then there is no reason to take them.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on February 22, 2013, 01:12:54 PM
If you are feeling fine then there is no reason to take them.

OK good!  I just hear so many people talking about them in real life too!  Thought I was missing something!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 23, 2013, 06:51:01 AM
If you are feeling fine then there is no reason to take them.

I was in whole foods yesterday and saw the prices...  gee, no need to buy these if you don't have issues.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 23, 2013, 07:58:07 AM
I keep thinking I want to try them...I don't have major issues, but there are definitely times where I wonder if things are working as they should be.

In other news, I am stalled in terms of weight, which is not entirely surprising since I hit my goal but then lowered it a little. I haven't been super strict, and it's harder to lose even a few pounds at this weight, so if I want to get any lower, I need a couple of solid weeks of not dipping into extra points. But OTOH, I'm decently happy where I'm at, and if there are social things like a lunch out or beers with friends, I'm not going to deprive myself entirely. I'll find the balance. Meanwhile, running a lot is also making me hungry.  :D My new post-run treat is a small glass of skim milk with chocolate Ovaltine. Yum.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 24, 2013, 12:34:55 PM
I'm still taking the probiotics and still having much less bloating!  I still have IBS symptoms (loose stools from time to time) but that has slightly improved.  The decrease in bloating alone will keep me on them!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on February 24, 2013, 07:31:18 PM
Sweet! A poop thread!
 :rockon:
Queen of the Loo, stopping in (Meri sent me over here)

piggy backing on the latest thread topic~~~> I take floragen3 probiotics...pharmacist recommended.

I've got a host of lovely problems, the top of the list is microscopic colitis. Loose frequent stools, urgency, yadda yadda.
Those of you who know me recall that I'm doomed to run in the dark of the early morning or to trudge on a TM, due to my frequent need to pitstop.  Gak.

Nothing in western medicine has "cured" it....not steroids, not cholestyramine (which I'm still on) nothing.
GI doc did bloodwork which shows no celiac. She said IBS-D...duh...and I am also guessing an underlying gluten sensitivity adds to some of my issues.

So my next step is to (gasp) suck it up and go GF for 30+ days. Oy. This will be more difficult than it was to lose all my flubber on WW. Oy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on February 24, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
Hey Karen.  Do you go in for your routine colonoscopy screenings?  It's extra important for you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on February 24, 2013, 07:38:35 PM
Yup. Clear as can be for both visits...pink, smooth, healthy.
Must be cuz I eat a healthy diet and "evacuate" so well.
;)

 Nothing...until they did three little biopsies during my 2010 colonoscopy, all of which came back positive for the microscopic colitis.

Grrr.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on February 24, 2013, 08:05:51 PM
Need to add that my MC is " somewhat controlled " with the cholestyramine. 'somewhat' is the key word. :/
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on February 24, 2013, 08:17:20 PM
Hi porty!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on February 24, 2013, 09:44:58 PM
Hi Porty!  Nice to see you!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on February 26, 2013, 03:46:59 PM
Well. I eat better when I'm talking to you guys. So here I am.

Smack me back into eating healthy.

 :bitchfight:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 26, 2013, 04:31:05 PM
Well. I eat better when I'm talking to you guys. So here I am.

Smack me back into eating healthy.

 :bitchfight:

I hear ya. 

SMACK!?  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on February 26, 2013, 04:32:13 PM
mmmm sugar smacks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 26, 2013, 07:34:21 PM
Stop that!  :fiery:

Nice to have you back. Not nice that you need to be smacked, but missed your part in the conversation here!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 27, 2013, 11:36:13 AM
So, I've been on the probiotics for a week now, and there is a definite difference in my issues.  I've pooped more in the past week than ever in my life.  Which is definitely a good thing!  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on February 27, 2013, 11:40:05 AM
  I've pooped more in the past week than ever in my life.

Thank you for sharing this...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 27, 2013, 11:41:07 AM
Thank you for sharing this...

You're welcome. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on February 27, 2013, 11:43:54 AM
Courtney,
Well played!

I poop more than everyone on this board combined...so when folks talk about NOT going, my little ears perk up.

Sad. But true.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 27, 2013, 11:48:36 AM
Courtney,
Well played!

I poop more than everyone on this board combined...so when folks talk about NOT going, my little ears perk up.

Sad. But true.

:D

We aren't exactly shy about sharing TMI type info here, and I know several others had been interested in probiotics.  I'm kind of surprised! 

Good to see you, Porty!  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on February 27, 2013, 12:10:48 PM
Courtney,
Well played!

I poop more than everyone on this board combined...so when folks talk about NOT going, my little ears perk up.

Sad. But true.

I probably can't beat you but I can give you a run for your money.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on February 27, 2013, 02:21:25 PM
So, I've been on the probiotics for a week now, and there is a definite difference in my issues.  I've pooped more in the past week than ever in my life.  Which is definitely a good thing!  :D

Super glad it is helping!

I started back on them also this week.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on February 27, 2013, 02:25:02 PM
I'm having other kinds of issues, so I'm trying probiotics too!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on February 27, 2013, 08:57:08 PM
I probably can't beat you but I can give you a run for your money.

{{MM}}
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on February 27, 2013, 10:00:20 PM
I'm taking probiotics! Well.. I'm doing an every other day thing until I see what they do.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: bensmom243 on February 27, 2013, 10:11:49 PM
So, I've been on the probiotics for a week now, and there is a definite difference in my issues.  I've pooped more in the past week than ever in my life.  Which is definitely a good thing!  :D

That's a great update!! Which brand did you go with?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on February 27, 2013, 10:45:22 PM
Wtpj: there's a few of us on here that are primarily GF so if you have any questions, speak up.  It hasn't been quite as hard as I would have expected although I'm definitely not 100%; I think part of what made it easier for me was not even trying all the GF breads, mixes, etc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on February 28, 2013, 08:58:01 AM
Thnx for the support!
I'm trying some of my own pea-brained experiments at this time.
Oy. giving up gluten for 30+ days seems worse torture than spending the holidays with my in-laws. Oy.

 :skeered:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on February 28, 2013, 09:31:50 AM
Thnx for the support!
I'm trying some of my own pea-brained experiments at this time.
Oy. giving up gluten for 30+ days seems worse torture than spending the holidays with my in-laws. Oy.

 :skeered:

It is not as bad as you think.  Really.  Or you need worse in laws  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on February 28, 2013, 11:52:23 AM
It is not as bad as you think.  Really.  Or you need worse in laws  :D

 :sidesplit: Exactly!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on February 28, 2013, 03:58:05 PM
That's a great update!! Which brand did you go with?


The dude at walgreens said they were all pretty similar, so I picked Nature Made triple probiotic. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: radial on February 28, 2013, 08:52:57 PM
Wtpj, sounds like you have food allergy.  Maybe wheat, maybe soy, maybe something else.  But your little "pea-brained experiments" are exactly the right way to figure it out.  I hope it's something simple like gluten intolerance because as others have pointed out, it's not all that difficult to cut wheat out of your diet.  Much easier than talking yourself into running long distances on a regular basis.  And, it's not very often that you get to solve a problem that's been plaguing you for decades.  :fingers:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 02, 2013, 05:55:40 PM
So the husband and I had a big argument this morning and he drove off all pissed off leaving me home all upset.

So I managed to avoid the urge to eat and went out running instead! Yay...a win. And I did 8 miles because he eventually came to his senses and found me in the park but I was already over half done...so I ran / walked extra.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 02, 2013, 06:06:39 PM
So the husband and I had a big argument this morning and he drove off all pissed off leaving me home all upset.

So I managed to avoid the urge to eat and went out running instead! Yay...a win. And I did 8 miles because he eventually came to his senses and found me in the park but I was already over half done...so I ran / walked extra.
I always have a really good run when i am angry :D Except at Badwater, I got pissed at DH (who was not even on my crew) and i kicked up my pace and overheated  :fiery: Good job not going for the food. I am at the point where there is just nothing yummy beside fruit in the house :D it sucks. LOL

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on March 03, 2013, 06:17:06 PM
I should go running. The weather is nice.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on March 03, 2013, 06:39:44 PM
I should go running. The weather is nice.

Yeah! Go enjoy it.  :)

"Bad" food weekend for me, but c'est la vie. I enjoyed it all and ran 8 miles on Saturday, so I'm not beating myself up. I really enjoyed Saturday night's meal - it was a great dinner out at a nice steakhouse as part of a work function. And the food was excellent. I did refrain from too many "extras" like having only one glass of wine, a nibble of dessert, and not overloading on apps or bread. So I focused on the parts that were really good - filet mignon with risotto - very yummy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lintu on March 04, 2013, 03:02:36 PM
Hi there!  Joining up with you all as I try to do better with eating and exercise.   :)
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: RioG on March 04, 2013, 03:18:26 PM
Hi there!  Joining up with you all as I try to do better with eating and exercise.   :)
me too (again).  Hoping to dig through and find good recipes when I replace my computer. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on March 04, 2013, 09:41:55 PM
Ran 2.75!! WOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!   :runner:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 04, 2013, 10:16:41 PM
nice work!

I was off the wagon for a couple of days (I think my plastic surgery and derm follow ups freaked me out a bit) but I'm back to it.  And I've worked out every day for the last several.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on March 05, 2013, 06:48:54 AM
Nice, tricia! Woo hoo!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 05, 2013, 07:19:29 AM
wtg Tricia!

Diablita-- i think you missed my post a couple weeks ago, but i did go to a new derm, first skin check in about 18 years? and had one biopsy that came back ok. So thank you for the swift kick.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 05, 2013, 11:10:01 AM
I did miss it.  So glad you went and very happy to read that you're ok.  Were you calm during the waiting period?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 05, 2013, 08:46:15 PM
I did miss it.  So glad you went and very happy to read that you're ok.  Were you calm during the waiting period?
I was because she told me not to lose any sleep over it. I really liked the we dr. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on March 13, 2013, 08:16:08 PM
Not to make excuses or anything, but I've been a wee bit busy these last few days and have not made time to run due to utter exhaustion. boo. Once we get on a schedule and routine, I'm making it a priority to get out and run.

I SWEAR!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on March 13, 2013, 09:05:23 PM
Eating healthy food requires so much chopping!  Today I chopped cauliflower, zucchini, onion, garlic, sweet potato, poblanos, green onion, cilantro, and radishes.  If I had my own prep cook, I'd get so much more done.   :P
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on March 13, 2013, 09:22:45 PM
lol @ SG.  You need your own cooking shoe.

And Tricia, I'm so happy for you.  How are you guys doing with all the big changes?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on March 13, 2013, 09:29:10 PM
I am proud of myself. I have made a new plan to run before I leave work in Berkeley at least once a week because the route is hilly and I can run while it is still light out. I have now done this two weeks in a row! Yay for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on March 13, 2013, 10:08:56 PM
Eating healthy food requires so much chopping!  Today I chopped cauliflower, zucchini, onion, garlic, sweet potato, poblanos, green onion, cilantro, and radishes.  If I had my own prep cook, I'd get so much more done.   :P

So true! It is the prep that kills me. So much chopping. Sounds like you were making something really good, though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on March 13, 2013, 10:47:56 PM
So true! It is the prep that kills me. So much chopping. Sounds like you were making something really good, though!

I made these stacked veggie enchiladas.    http://www.perrysplate.com/2011/03/stacked-roasted-vegetable-enchiladas.html (http://www.perrysplate.com/2011/03/stacked-roasted-vegetable-enchiladas.html)

(The radishes were just for snacking.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 13, 2013, 11:10:27 PM
How were they?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on March 14, 2013, 06:45:41 AM
Nice, MM! It's great to make a plan like that and follow through.  :)

Hope to hear more about  how you're doing, tricia...

Those enchiladas sound delicious.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on March 14, 2013, 07:19:38 AM
Tricia,
 Congrats on the life changes!
Keep up the fitness routines to give you stamina for those <squeal!> changes


SG,
I am going to try that recipe. Looks delish.

MM,
For sure: Yay you!!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on March 14, 2013, 07:43:31 AM
So true! It is the prep that kills me. So much chopping. Sounds like you were making something really good, though!

I really like to chop... it's one of my favorite activities in the kitchen.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on March 14, 2013, 08:42:50 AM
How were they?

Good!  I added a can of black beans, left out the bell peppers as they tend to disagree with me, and served with avocado instead of sour cream.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on March 14, 2013, 08:43:30 AM
I really like to chop... it's one of my favorite activities in the kitchen.

Are you for hire?   :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 14, 2013, 01:48:08 PM
I am neutral about chopping. Depends on the ingredient and as i get older and more comfortable with bigger and sharper knives, it only gets easier.

So, not much else to report here. I just cannot lost a pound to save my life. It sucks. I have been enjoying the fitness pal app though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 15, 2013, 01:51:00 PM
I can I come back here? I've been pretty much eating whatever I want lately but since I will be mostly sitting on my arse for the next 6 weeks, and then slowly building up from there (so I'll be in top form for running all next winter. wheee!) I guess I better start eating like it matters.  :azn:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 26, 2013, 10:42:51 AM
RA, I'm back on track too. 

The transition to vegan was a lot harder than I thought.  I felt I had permission to eat as much as I wanted, as long as it was vegan.  Big mistake.  So I binged on bread, crackers, and candy in addition to my planned meals.  I think I'm one of the few people to gain weight upon transitioning to vegan. 

So now I'm back on minimal wheat and sugar.  And getting on the bike trainer after work. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 26, 2013, 10:48:55 AM
The transition to vegan was a lot harder than I thought.  I felt I had permission to eat as much as I wanted, as long as it was vegan.  Big mistake.  So I binged on bread, crackers, and candy in addition to my planned meals.  I think I'm one of the few people to gain weight upon transitioning to vegan. 

Nope, I'm right there with you. I would weigh 300 lbs if I tried to be vegan. I just do much better with hunger control with some animal protein in my life.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on March 26, 2013, 10:52:35 AM
Nope, I'm right there with you. I would weigh 300 lbs if I tried to be vegan. I just do much better with hunger control with some animal protein in my life.

With me, I think it was withdrawal from dairy.  I ate cheese almost every day.  Now that I've been cheese-free for about a month, my body doesn't miss it as much so hopefully the binges are over.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2013, 11:03:07 AM
RA, I'm back on track too. 

The transition to vegan was a lot harder than I thought.  I felt I had permission to eat as much as I wanted, as long as it was vegan.  Big mistake.  So I binged on bread, crackers, and candy in addition to my planned meals.  I think I'm one of the few people to gain weight upon transitioning to vegan. 

So now I'm back on minimal wheat and sugar.  And getting on the bike trainer after work.
Yeah, I do not eat that type of stuff for the most part, maybe an occassional spelt tortilla or ezekial bread toast. But overall, no crackers, chips, bread, etc. But it is baby steps. I college what did I eat? Cereal and lots of it. Pizza. Ice cream. I got fat. Now, I base my meals around mostly beans, and there are veggies, whole grains (mostly brown rice and quinoa, sometimes barley and millet) and try to minimize my sweets. Lately it has been frozen banana ice cream (just frozen bananas in blender = perfect froyo consistancy) or a piece of fruit. I love sweets, especially something sweet after dinner. It takes time, you are doing well :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 26, 2013, 11:19:30 AM
With me, I think it was withdrawal from dairy.  I ate cheese almost every day.  Now that I've been cheese-free for about a month, my body doesn't miss it as much so hopefully the binges are over.

I eat cheese every day, usually multiple times a day. :D In most cases I can live with out it and probably am about where I should cut back. I have found that in most cases I don't miss it, if I leave it out (some exceptions).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 26, 2013, 12:45:46 PM
Meri, did you get your vitamix replaced? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lintu on March 26, 2013, 12:48:54 PM
You know what makes it really easy to be motivated to exercise?  When it's your main escape from your kids and the primary source of sanity!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on March 26, 2013, 01:50:18 PM
You know what makes it really easy to be motivated to exercise?  When it's your main escape from your kids and the primary source of sanity!

Or visiting for an extended period with an elderly mother who complains a lot.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 26, 2013, 02:29:10 PM
Meri, did you get your vitamix replaced?
yes! last monday!!! :D I returned it with the peanut butter still in it :D they were shocked and said no one ever returns them. New one seems to be doing well. We are a smoothie making machine and DD is loving them. I am sneaking flax oil and liquid Vit B into hers and may try some spinach next (if she is not around to see) because i did that today for me and it tasted great. kale, no, spinach, yes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on March 26, 2013, 06:32:10 PM
Oh good!  I am maybe going to pick mine up tonight :)  Costco has the same one as BBB for $125 less, which is more than I'd save with the BBB coupon. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on March 26, 2013, 06:53:43 PM
Court,
Birthday girl's new kitchen has to have new toys!!!  8)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 27, 2013, 07:15:52 AM
Oh good!  I am maybe going to pick mine up tonight :)  Costco has the same one as BBB for $125 less, which is more than I'd save with the BBB coupon.
yep
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on March 27, 2013, 07:22:41 AM
Blergh, I have been so hungry lately! Weight loss has definitely been stalled, but I think that is ok - just focusing on eating enough of the right stuff while training for the half, coming up in May. I'm still within 5 pounds of a goal weight that I think may or may not be a little low for me, so it's all good. Trying to keep the focus on feeling fit and being happy with how I look.

RA, good to see you back here, although I'm still sorry that you're sidelined. Just glad you are taking time to really rest it and heal.

Working on good strategies to get through Easter weekend with family invading and lots of cooking scheduled to take place.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 27, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
It's all the running you're doing. Caito yelled at me about it in another thread and I decided she was right. I was eating 1800-2200 calories/day while I was training for my half. I wasn't stepping on the scale, so I don't know what my weight was doing... but I didn't get any bigger.

But, someone in my injury thread said that when they stopped running their appetite went away and they lost a bunch of weight, and that has been true too. Well, I don't know about a bunch... I'm back down to pretty much my lowest weight in 10 years. Of course, I'm now  :panic: because I know it's just muscle wasting.

I'm pretty happy at the size I'm at though.

I'm not really following the eating plan very closely. Just trying to eat a reasonable breakfast, lunch, get a snack or two in there... and then it's a free for all for dinner. Some nights I'm not that hungry so I might have something snack sized. Some nights I want something a little more substantial. I eat out for dinner a few times a week and try and keep it reasonable, but also not impose too much restriction on myself. Moving out of the city has helped me curb my (dangerous) affection for the various ice cream and frozen custard shops that were within walking distance of my apartment!

I will say that the thing I'm most happy with with the diet I went on last year is that it seemed to re-set my eating habits. I don't battle cravings anymore. I don't feel the need to eat until I'm stuffed. I look forward to food, and I enjoy food... but I don't miss the way I used to eat. I feel like I have a core way of eating that serves me well *most* of the time, but leaves plenty of room for indulgence also. It's a good place to be.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on March 27, 2013, 01:38:47 PM
My appetite has been super weird lately!  I get filled up with not very much food, and then one or two hours later I'm starving.  This is problematic for multiple reasons.  First, even if I have an afternoon snack I tend to be so hungry after work that I skip my run so I can go home and eat.  Second, I find it more difficult to make healthy food choices when I'm snacking.  I'd rather eat three balanced meals a day and call it good, rather than feeling hungry and having to think about food all the time.  I haven't been working out much lately either.  If that were the case, the increased hunger would make sense.  (Well, this week it makes sense because my period started this morning, but I've noticed this change for the past 2-3 weeks)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 27, 2013, 01:43:06 PM
Maybe try breaking things down into smaller meals and just plan to eat more often? Then instead of snacking on whatever... you're eating purposefully and prepared for it, when hunger strikes.

Also, I've had to just come to terms with the fact that my "dinner" time is more like 4:30/5. So, I do best to eat something dinner sized then and then maybe a snack or something around regular dinner time- if I do get hungry later. I eat lunch at 11:30, though, so I guess that makes sense.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on March 27, 2013, 01:57:05 PM
Thanks RA - I remember that! I agree, with all the running, it's fired up my appetite. Plus, I have been indulging in things like small portions of baked chips, which just make me want larger portions of baked chips. It's like a gateway food, I swear.  :P

Glad to hear that you feel good about your eating habits. That's one thing I would be concerned about with any injury or period of inactivity...that I'd slide into bad habits or worry too much about what I was eating. As it is now, if I don't run for a day or two, I have to fight feeling like I am being "bad" or going to gain weight instantly and lose fitness instantly. I know most of the time I think about it all reasonably and overall I have good habits, but those little voices are there, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 27, 2013, 02:15:29 PM
That is pretty much where I am at too. I still have those thoughts. In fact, I stepped on the scale today SURE that I'd gained a lot of weight. I was surprised to see I'd actually dropped some. Overall, I'm happy with my eating and weight... but I do find myself feeling like a "cheater" and thinking "that skinny girl over there probably doesn't eat 4 licorice whips after lunch and that is why she's skinny and you're not".

I too am afraid I will wake up fat again one day. I can't bring myself to donate my bigger clothes, even though I never wear them... because what if they fit me again? I should just do it. I know I'll feel better for it. ...and it's silly to think that'd I'd regain 30lbs over nigth and not notice. Right?

I've found that sometimes the scale is my friend. I've tried going by "feel" of my clothes. But then I obsess about whether those pants are tighter than they were last time I tried them on. So, like today, getting on the scale and SEEING a reasonable number helped me shut up the insecurity voices.

But then, on the other hand, Saturday night I had dinner with a friend and we ate a like 5 baskets of chips, had guac, I had a beer and amargarita, and cheese enchiladas. So... although the voices in my head are berrating me for dipping into the candy bowl, I'm also not depriving myself by any means.


Also... You are training for a half marathon. Eat real chips, for goodness sake!

But, honestly, I was pleasently surprised that pretty much no matter what I ate, i was running enough miles that it just didn't seem to matter. So, I say, live it up while your mileage is high and rein it in when you're in a more maintenance running phase!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on March 27, 2013, 02:53:30 PM
Well lookie there. I lost 7 pounds without even trying.

 :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on March 27, 2013, 02:56:31 PM
Also... You are training for a half marathon. Eat real chips, for goodness sake!

Okay, okay!  :D

Well lookie there. I lost 7 pounds without even trying.

 :D

Woo hoo!  :banana:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on March 27, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
I'm back on caffeine.  :nails: I don't want to think about the headaches I'll get when I quit again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on March 27, 2013, 04:08:56 PM
Isn't caffeine a job requirement?  ;)

I was off it for a few months last summer and gradually went back on, just to the tune of 1 cup in the morning. If I have something else later in the day, it's decaf. Considering that the only other thing I drink is water and seltzer, I don't think that one cup is going to be my downfall.

If I had unlimited access to tasty delicious coffee, I'd probably drink way more than that though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on March 27, 2013, 04:18:40 PM
RA,
Donate the larger-sized clothes.
When I was Removing my 50 slabs of blubber on WW, our leader once discussed the clothing topic with us.
He said, "if you save your fat person clothes, then you're giving yourself license to gain it back. If you purchase new, smaller sizes, you'll be more motivated to make smart food choices, eat in a meaningful manner, stay fit, etc."

Good luck! Maintaining a healthy weight and lifestyle is a never ever ending journey.  :lambie:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on March 27, 2013, 06:50:21 PM
I managed to have my meals all at the wrong time today.  Had 2 hard boiled eggs and 2 slices of buttered toast around 10:30, and hunger plus time didn't match up again until around 4:15.  So I went home and ate lunch (leftover pizza plus a bunch of animal cookies)  and sliced up a bunch of stuff and started a chicken soup in the crockpot.  Hopefully I'll be hungry enough to eat some of it by 8 or so.  Also that it tastes ok.  I've never made it before and I just kind of winged it. I need to go to the store and buy more containers; almost all of mine are already in the freezer with various foodstuffs in them.  And a few are probably at someone else's house.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on March 27, 2013, 07:12:51 PM

But, someone in my injury thread said that when they stopped running their appetite went away and they lost a bunch of weight, and that has been true too. Well, I don't know about a bunch... I'm back down to pretty much my lowest weight in 10 years. Of course, I'm now  :panic: because I know it's just muscle wasting.


I think that may have been me.  When I was injured, I walked, and lost way so much weight so easily.  In fact, I have decided to run 5 easy miles a day this week, and I have no constant desire to eat.  I do not believe it's muscle: what evidence do you have?  I saw my fat % go down.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 27, 2013, 07:34:15 PM
Well, I'm not doing anything (not supposed to even walk)... so I guess it's just an assumption. But, I was sick the preceding 3 weeks, so maybe it's not muscle at this point. Looking  forward to walking!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on March 27, 2013, 07:40:54 PM
Maybe try breaking things down into smaller meals and just plan to eat more often? Then instead of snacking on whatever... you're eating purposefully and prepared for it, when hunger strikes.

Also, I've had to just come to terms with the fact that my "dinner" time is more like 4:30/5. So, I do best to eat something dinner sized then and then maybe a snack or something around regular dinner time- if I do get hungry later. I eat lunch at 11:30, though, so I guess that makes sense.

I suspect that part of my problem is that I only work two days a week, and on the days I don't work I have very little along the lines of a schedule or a routine.  I don't really eat meals, I mostly just graze.  Then when I do work, my eating habits are all out of whack.  I'd prefer not to snack at work if I can get around it, partly because there's not a regular time for me to take a break, and partly because I'd rather not eat in my office.  It might be a good idea for a while though, and maybe I'll be able to transition to more of a three meals a day eating pattern.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on March 27, 2013, 10:26:27 PM
Well, the soup was bland.  But salt and pepper fixed that.  It's edible.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on March 27, 2013, 11:07:25 PM
Well, the soup was bland.  But salt and pepper fixed that.  It's edible.

What did you put in it, veggie wise?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on March 28, 2013, 06:09:27 AM
20# since Feb. 1st.  Whoohoo!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on March 28, 2013, 06:42:54 AM
I need to go to the store and buy more containers; almost all of mine are already in the freezer with various foodstuffs in them. 

Nice feeling, isn't it?  I got some Ball jar freezable containers, 1 and 2 cups each, and am making soups on the weekends for the second half of the workweek. It all goes into the freezer.  It is great.  I have some bean soup and some squash soup waiting for tonight and tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 28, 2013, 10:08:25 AM
20# since Feb. 1st.  Whoohoo!

 :bow2:

Nice feeling, isn't it?  I got some Ball jar freezable containers, 1 and 2 cups each, and am making soups on the weekends for the second half of the workweek. It all goes into the freezer.  It is great.  I have some bean soup and some squash soup waiting for tonight and tomorrow night.

Yep! Love that! I have a bunch of the ziplock ones and a bunch of the  glad (sorry roach!) ones. I need to buy a few more. I feel like I can never have enough!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on March 28, 2013, 06:37:29 PM
What did you put in it, veggie wise?

I used some leftover chicken broth, 1/2 a beer, and water
Chunks of chicken
carrots
celery
onion
garlic
thyme
Italian parsley
salt
pepper
bowtie pasta

I was going to throw in some potato, but they'd gone bad.  Mainly it needed more salt and pepper.  And more chicken broth and less water.  But I certainly used up some leftovers, which was the point.  And I have several bowls of the stuff in the freezer, had lunch today, and provided lunch for the guy I kind of date (with instructions to add a bunch of salt and pepper).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on March 28, 2013, 06:55:58 PM
I used some leftover chicken broth, 1/2 a beer, and water
Chunks of chicken
carrots
celery
onion
garlic
thyme
Italian parsley
salt
pepper
bowtie pasta

I was going to throw in some potato, but they'd gone bad.  Mainly it needed more salt and pepper.  And more chicken broth and less water.  But I certainly used up some leftovers, which was the point.  And I have several bowls of the stuff in the freezer, had lunch today, and provided lunch for the guy I kind of date (with instructions to add a bunch of salt and pepper).

I was told on this forum to add balsamic vinegar to any soup.  They promised me instant flavor...  Try it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on March 28, 2013, 09:16:57 PM
A tiny bit of balsamic is great when making tomato sauce!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on March 28, 2013, 10:23:00 PM
I don't have any regular balsamic.  I have chocolate balsamic vinegar which I haven't figured put what to do with yet
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on March 28, 2013, 10:35:31 PM
Chocolate balsamic vinegar sounds like it would be awesome as a dressing for a strawberry spinach salad!  Not so much in the chicken soup, though.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on March 31, 2013, 05:26:08 PM
Yummy wrap inspired by the instinct diet book- that will likely be my lunch all week:

1/2 cup mixed grilled veggies (I have some leftover from a bbq and tons more I can grill)
2tbs of lowfat alfredo sauce or feta cheese
1/4 cup of balega bean salad from tj's but any bean salad or cooked bean would work
100 cal high fiber wrap of your choice
side salad

about 300 cal add more cals by increasing the cheese or beans
easy to carry to work and do the wrapping part there
yum!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 01, 2013, 06:52:25 AM
Yummy wrap inspired by the instinct diet book- that will likely be my lunch all week:

1/2 cup mixed grilled veggies (I have some leftover from a bbq and tons more I can grill)
2tbs of lowfat alfredo sauce or feta cheese
1/4 cup of balega bean salad from tj's but any bean salad or cooked bean would work
100 cal high fiber wrap of your choice
side salad

about 300 cal add more cals by increasing the cheese or beans
easy to carry to work and do the wrapping part there
yum!

What is balega bean salad.  I googled and balega seems to be a sock brand...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 01, 2013, 07:11:20 AM
I was wondering the same thing...  :) I do love the socks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 01, 2013, 11:09:41 AM
Sorry, misspelling- it's Balela... it's a middle eastern bean salad. You could make it on your own, or any bean salad will work. The trader joe's version is really piquant and yummy, so I've been buying that one. It's pretty much beans, parsley, lemon, onion, and maybe a little oil. Lots of lemon though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on April 01, 2013, 01:24:09 PM
He grilled steaks last night, but they were weird.  Looked more like pork.  Tasted like steak though.  Are the steaks at the store usually dyed or something?  I think these were those Omaha steaks or something similar.  There was some kind of event in town recently where you could get something like $20 steaks for $25.

He had carrots and potatoes in the fridge, so I cut up and boiled the carrots, drained, and added butter and honey.  Cut up the potatoes with oil, parsley, garlic, and salt and oven-roasted.

For dessert, a chocolate Easter bunny, sort of like that Nestle Crunch bar.

And wine. The Rex Goliath pinot noir is not bad for cheap.

I don't know that any of that was healthy eating, but it met scrounging through the fridge for food and making something from scratch.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 01, 2013, 01:44:08 PM
How interesting that you had Balela yesterday, RA.

I made a big batch of Balela salad yesterday morning. I heart tj's, and tried to find a similar recipe.

Turned out quite tasty, IMHO.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 01, 2013, 01:52:32 PM
I only wish they sold it in a big vat! That stuff is deeeeeeeeeelish!

If you shop at tj's (and like balela) another summer salad you might like starts with their whole wheat couscous. On the back (side?) is a recipe for tabouleh. I make the couscous as described on the box and then add diced green peppers, red onion (or shallots), mint, and a can of chick peas. I don't love parsley, so I skip it. Anyway, lasts several days in the fridge and is quite refreshing. You can add feta...or not. You could definitely add cukecumber- but then it only lasts 1 day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 01, 2013, 03:19:52 PM
I love tabouleh....num num num
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 01, 2013, 03:34:45 PM
I should say that the recipe I mention really isn't a traditional tabouleh- it's just a tangy summery salad. Yummy though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cindyleigh on April 02, 2013, 06:46:38 PM
20# since Feb. 1st.  Whoohoo!

Wow!  My goal is 20# by Aug. 24 (my sister's wedding).  That's just about 20 weeks.

Of course, if I lose 40 by then ...I would be thrilled!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 03, 2013, 08:23:57 AM
i am pretty convinced that my inability to lose weight is directly related to abnormally high levels of stress i endure. Once my spring race season is over (mid may) i am going to try to focus on some weight training and see if that helps. I just do not want to start right now as my first race is Saturday and then i have 2 races following that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 03, 2013, 10:56:39 AM
Yesterday I stepped on the scale after two weeks of only kinda sorta monitering my eating and I was at my low weight still!  So happy about that.  I do pretty much log my food but have gone over ALOT.. I guess maybe not terribly over when I calculate my exercise.. but really, some days I had 2200-2400 calories and I still sort of lost. I do get some type of exercise ( usually running and elliptical on an active rest day) at least 6 days a week, but I was also kind of injured a bit from my fall and a pulled groin over the last two weeks.

I am convinced some times that the more I eat (obviously within reason and good healthy whole foods) the more I lose or stay stable... so strange but maybe there is something to this theory of holding onto weight if you aren't getting enogh calories.

I wonder if yoga is helping?  I don't burn that much but maybe something about it?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BobM59 on April 10, 2013, 10:15:59 AM
I've finally reached a weight where I feel that I don't really need to LOSE any more weight.

I am not satisfied with my overall body composition.  I need to build more lean muscle while I keep my body fat in the ballpark of where it's at right now.

Has anyone who was previously strong and heavy done this successfully?  For reference:

Age          Weight             Strength            Notes
21             235                   Very High            Playing football.   Lifting only.
22             180                   Very High            Ended football career, lifted AND ran every day.  Young/single
23-30        190-200            Moderate            Career blossomed, free time fell.  Running only.
30             220                   Moderate            First kid / Sympathy weight.  Yikes.
31             190-200             Low                   See 23-30
33             175                    Low                   Low-carb diet + running.  Need to add power.

Halp!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on April 10, 2013, 10:27:50 AM
you need isometric exercises, maybe some weights.  up the miles.

what's your running pace (generally)?  easy for you?  or moderate effort?

eat some carbs - you'll need them if you're moving more.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BobM59 on April 10, 2013, 10:52:21 AM
you need isometric exercises, maybe some weights.  up the miles.

what's your running pace (generally)?  easy for you?  or moderate effort?

eat some carbs - you'll need them if you're moving more.

I do about 35 miles / week at different length runs.  In the 7 range I do about 7 minute miles, down in the 4 range I'm closer to 6:20.  If I do a 10 miler, maybe 7:30.  All are hard by the end of the run!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 10, 2013, 12:49:33 PM
Hope you'll accept advice from an old lady who loves to cross train.

Start lifting again, but differently than the old school 'football workout' lifting:
Multiple muscle groups instead of isolation.

Example~~~> bicep curls while squatting on a Bosu Ball. :D  challenging and fun!
Example~~~> reverse lunges with overhead press.

Kettle bells, Heavy sandbags, ship ropes, etc etc are fitness toys which lend themselves to increasing mass and core strength.

Do you have weights in the basement? Belong to a gym?

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 10, 2013, 12:51:18 PM
Witchypoo is wise: add more good quality carbs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 10, 2013, 03:09:01 PM
Hope you'll accept advice from an old lady who loves to cross train.

Start lifting again, but differently than the old school 'football workout' lifting:
Multiple muscle groups instead of isolation.

Example~~~> bicep curls while squatting on a Bosu Ball. :D  challenging and fun!
Example~~~> reverse lunges with overhead press.

Kettle bells, Heavy sandbags, ship ropes, etc etc are fitness toys which lend themselves to increasing mass and core strength.

Do you have weights in the basement? Belong to a gym?



Agree. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 10, 2013, 03:20:55 PM
Court,
Do you have a basement in your new place?
Workout area!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 10, 2013, 05:15:23 PM
Court,
Do you have a basement in your new place?
Workout area!!

Yes ma'am!  The treadmill is already set up! 

I have a fabulous on-site gym at work, so I'm not looking to do too much more right now.  But I love having space if I decide I want to!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BobM59 on April 10, 2013, 08:24:54 PM

Do you have weights in the basement? Belong to a gym?



Yes, and yes.  They do not have heavy ropes or kettlebells unless you buy time with a trainer though, which is a ripoff.  My basement weights are a pretty good set of dumbbells from P90X.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 11, 2013, 07:27:22 AM
That is a ripoff - they should have some kind of group training class with the kettlebells or something. People would love that. They're being pennywise, pound-foolish, or something.

Have you done P90X?

Can you do CrossFit? I know it's the trendy thing right now, but mr. cgraz was in a similar position - weight loss but also loss of strength/muscle for various reasons - and he has really been loving CF for helping him build back some upper body, which has never been his strong area. Plus all those squats are bringing his booty back, and I'm not going to complain about that.  :D

I know it's expensive, but maybe if you did a short round of classes, then you could learn some stuff you could do on your own. One of my friends does all kinds of CF workouts at home and has her own kettlebells, balls, etc. I think she follows blogs that post daily workouts or something. She does not go to CF gym.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BobM59 on April 11, 2013, 08:24:23 AM
I do have P90X at the house; I've done it in the past multiple times.  I'm not a rockstar at it, but I do enjoy it.

I've thought about CF - I've got a few good friends that are WAY, WAY into it, but it feels like such a dramatic change, and could be really time consuming.  With baby girl due in 6 weeks, I'm thinking of just dropping 1 or 2 runs per week in favor of lifting heavy (at least until we get re-situated).

My other concern is that weight management has always been SUCH a pain in the ass for me.  As previously mentioned I have a natural inclination to being really heavy - I don't want to lose ground on all the fat I've burned, or on my speed, which is best ever.

There have been lots of good suggestions, I think I just need to man up and try out something - be it P90X, CF, kettlebells, etc.  Thanks to all that gave some good ideas!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lintu on April 11, 2013, 09:10:05 AM
Yesterday I stepped on the scale after two weeks of only kinda sorta monitering my eating and I was at my low weight still!  So happy about that.  I do pretty much log my food but have gone over ALOT.. I guess maybe not terribly over when I calculate my exercise.. but really, some days I had 2200-2400 calories and I still sort of lost. I do get some type of exercise ( usually running and elliptical on an active rest day) at least 6 days a week, but I was also kind of injured a bit from my fall and a pulled groin over the last two weeks.

I am convinced some times that the more I eat (obviously within reason and good healthy whole foods) the more I lose or stay stable... so strange but maybe there is something to this theory of holding onto weight if you aren't getting enogh calories.

I wonder if yoga is helping?  I don't burn that much but maybe something about it?

This has always been my experience.  The more I eat, the lower I stay.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 11, 2013, 09:55:50 AM
I do have P90X at the house; I've done it in the past multiple times.  I'm not a rockstar at it, but I do enjoy it.

I've thought about CF - I've got a few good friends that are WAY, WAY into it, but it feels like such a dramatic change, and could be really time consuming.  With baby girl due in 6 weeks, I'm thinking of just dropping 1 or 2 runs per week in favor of lifting heavy (at least until we get re-situated).

My other concern is that weight management has always been SUCH a pain in the ass for me.  As previously mentioned I have a natural inclination to being really heavy - I don't want to lose ground on all the fat I've burned, or on my speed, which is best ever.

There have been lots of good suggestions, I think I just need to man up and try out something - be it P90X, CF, kettlebells, etc.  Thanks to all that gave some good ideas!

A former PRTer/CHer (I am not sure how much he posted here) is very into CF, and he has talked about how much his running improved as a result.  I was surprised!  But you do some plyometric stuff there, which I'm sure is good for speed.  I just started CF on Tuesday with their Elements class at my local place, and watching them do a real workout while we learned was crazy.  They were lifting HEAVY weights.  Most of the workouts aren't super long, which I like.  The gyms are always pricy, but mine offers an option for 2x week, which is cheaper, so I think I'm going to go that route, because I work out with a trainer 2x a week at work (free) and it's all weights.  The other thing about CF is that it's all high intensity interval stuff, so you are getting your heart rate up and should be burning massive calories.  At the end of our Elements class, after we'd done a billion squats to work on form, we did a mini workout, which was 5 min of AMRAP (as many reps as possible) of 5 pushups, 10 situps, 15 squats.  My heart was thumping at the end of it! 

I also find that I will do cardio on my own (mostly) and that I need extra accountability for weights, so the group atmosphere of CF and my training group at work are a big help.  I've been lifting now for over a year, 2 x a week, and I'm amazed at how much stronger I am.  I've doubled my weight in nearly everything.  More than doubled in a couple areas, and I can now do about 15 pushups on my toes (I can't get ALL the way down, but it's big progress).  A-maz-ing as far as I'm concerned. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 11, 2013, 10:15:53 AM
Ditto to what Courtney said - and also that the workouts are quick. My friend who does it all at home loves that it can be 20 minutes sometimes. So maybe not totally time-consuming, depending on where you go with it.

As for me - yoga and pilates have definitely helped my core strength and also muscle tone in my arms and all over. I think it's the inversions in yoga and all the chaturanga (yoga push-ups). That has given a big boost to my running, for sure. And it has made me more in tune with my body as far as food and exercise in general.

I think this might be the week that I hit that number I've been chasing for the past couple of months. I'm not sure if that is a good thing! What do I do next? Maintenance scares me a little. I haven't been here before, and have always been a little fluffier, so I am sort of afraid of losing where I'm at if I change the plan I've been following. Guess I won't know till I get there. And the half marathon is coming up...May 11th. Getting closer. Eep!
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Post by: merigayle on April 11, 2013, 11:18:43 AM
I just bought a CF groupon for when my spring racing season is over next month.
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Post by: triciaflower on April 11, 2013, 04:10:25 PM
Finally coming up for air.

Schedule about to change tomorrow. So I WILL make time to run! I haven't run in 4 weeks. I will have no more excuses. I will have lots of rest. So running is totally on the agenda for this weekend!! WOOT WOOT!!!!

It may only last a couple of weeks. But I'll take it. The weather is beeyooteeful.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 12, 2013, 06:52:12 AM
Woot woot! When the weather starts to get so nice, it really is something to look forward to, to get out there!

So I hit it, The Number. I clicked my WW plan over to "maintenance." I'll still track but with more points, which might be perfect timing so I can eat more with long runs going to do for the half.
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Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2013, 07:23:55 AM
Woot woot! When the weather starts to get so nice, it really is something to look forward to, to get out there!

So I hit it, The Number. I clicked my WW plan over to "maintenance." I'll still track but with more points, which might be perfect timing so I can eat more with long runs going to do for the half.
congrats!
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Post by: Ice Cream on April 12, 2013, 08:02:30 AM
I got the Fitbit Zip two days ago.  I wore it yesterday for the first time, and I was interested to see that I think I move much more than I actually do (aside from the running).  I had over 21,000 steps, incl. a 7.3 mile run.  I thought that I reached close to 10,000 steps just from all the daily activities I do, excluding the running.

I do not know how accurate the calorie burn estimate is...  But this is a fun little tool for fitness, and I can see how it can help one move more.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 12, 2013, 08:48:02 AM
Woot woot! When the weather starts to get so nice, it really is something to look forward to, to get out there!

So I hit it, The Number. I clicked my WW plan over to "maintenance." I'll still track but with more points, which might be perfect timing so I can eat more with long runs going to do for the half.

Yay!
One comes the rough part....forever is a long time to maintain. ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 12, 2013, 08:49:48 AM
Yeah, I am finding it hard to think of the state I'm in as something more than a temporary one. Weird. I guess I could start by acknowledging the state I'm in, to begin...I keep reaching for the wrong size clothes and I can't commit to buying anything, really.
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Post by: Run Amok on April 12, 2013, 08:59:20 AM
Yeah, I am finding it hard to think of the state I'm in as something more than a temporary one. Weird. I guess I could start by acknowledging the state I'm in, to begin...I keep reaching for the wrong size clothes and I can't commit to buying anything, really.

Yeah... me too. Or I put something on and am shocked that it's huge on me. Or I buy clothes and they are too big. But, just do it. Just commit. The problem I have is getting rid of the big stuff.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 12, 2013, 09:25:05 AM
Get rid of it!!
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Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2013, 09:49:09 AM
I am at a point where i think i need to toss the skinny clothes in my closet. Seriously, 1/2 of my closet of clothes i have not fit into since before i was pregnant 4+ years ago :(
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Post by: witchypoo on April 12, 2013, 12:11:44 PM
leptin
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2013, 12:25:40 PM
 This is the fifth day of headache. It must be allergies but I am miserable. It makes eating right really hard when I feel like crap.
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Post by: cgraz on April 12, 2013, 12:26:42 PM
Crap, that sucks. Have you taken anything for allergies or for the headache itself? Hope you get some relief. Drink lots of water.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2013, 12:29:49 PM
Crap, that sucks. Have you taken anything for allergies or for the headache itself? Hope you get some relief. Drink lots of water.

I am on a prescription steroids nasal spray which works really well for keeping my nose from running. I have been downing advil for the headaches but it doesn't work. I can't takeother allergy needs because they all make me a zombie.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2013, 01:09:22 PM
Have you tried singulair?
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Post by: diablita on April 12, 2013, 02:23:45 PM
Woot woot! When the weather starts to get so nice, it really is something to look forward to, to get out there!

So I hit it, The Number. I clicked my WW plan over to "maintenance." I'll still track but with more points, which might be perfect timing so I can eat more with long runs going to do for the half.

:w00t:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 12, 2013, 07:40:37 PM
Have you tried singulair?

I have a different asthma inhaler.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 12, 2013, 08:07:02 PM
I have a different asthma inhaler.
It is an oral med that originally was for asthma but is now widely used for allergies, not to replace your inhaler.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 13, 2013, 10:51:38 AM
Then no. The nasal steroid ifs the only prescription med I have ever been given.
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Post by: merigayle on April 13, 2013, 10:56:23 AM
Then no. The nasal steroid ifs the only prescription med I have ever been .
for me, when my allergies are at their worst, i use the trifecta: calritin, flonase and singulair.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on April 13, 2013, 11:47:35 AM
for me, when my allergies are at their worst, i use the trifecta: calritin, flonase and singulair.

Claratin is definitely a no go. That its one of the worst zombie offenders. Non drowsy...hah...might as well be a sleeping pill.
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Post by: merigayle on April 13, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
Claratin is definitely a no go. That its one of the worst zombie offenders. Non drowsy...hah...might as well be a sleeping pill.
I never had it have that effect on me. Other allergy meds, on the other hand, yes siree!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 13, 2013, 01:22:41 PM
Claratin is definitely a no go. That its one of the worst zombie offenders. Non drowsy...hah...might as well be a sleeping pill.

OMG, that is so funny...Claritin (D, though) is like speed for me. I even lose weight on it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 13, 2013, 01:42:06 PM
Claratin is definitely a no go. That its one of the worst zombie offenders. Non drowsy...hah...might as well be a sleeping pill.

I'm really sensitive to this kind of thing too. Zyrtec not only makes me sleepy but turns me into a binge eater. Fun!  :d
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on April 13, 2013, 02:52:38 PM
Nasal steroids are wonderful.   :heartbeat:  Although I have to be careful which one or I'll have nosebleeds.

Singulair somehow helps with allergy-related coughing for me, which helps me sleep better.  I'll still cough if the drainage is really bad, but Singulair keeps me from coughing just from the presence of allergens in the air/bed/whatever. 

Unfortunately, I have neither right now, and we are full on in tree pollen season.  (I need to see my allergist again.  I got my GP to write them, but then couldn't get them filled because elaborate written justification is needed in order for insurance to cover it.)  If I didn't get allergy shots it would all be even worse.

Zyrtec does not make me sleepy.  (Actually neither does Claratin, but Zyrtec works better for me.)  Benadryl does unless I am doing something active.  So it's fine to take Benadryl and go walk, hike, ride, etc, but not fine to take Benadryl and try to read a contract.   :sleep: 

It may help to take the real Sudaphed with your antihistimine.  That shit keeps me up all night. 
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Post by: merigayle on April 13, 2013, 04:17:53 PM
yeah I cannot use Flonase in the winter because i get severe nosebleeds and need to then get my nose cauterized  :nono:
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Post by: rocketgirl on April 13, 2013, 05:45:46 PM
yeah I cannot use Flonase in the winter because i get severe nosebleeds and need to then get my nose cauterized  :nono:

Both Rhinocort and Nasonex are not as bad for the nosebleeds, but Flonase has a generic and those don't.  You still need a humidifier in winter, and I still get a few nosebleeds, but nowhere near the every day it got to be with Flonase.
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Post by: diablita on April 13, 2013, 11:15:25 PM


Zyrtec does not make me sleepy.  (Actually neither does Claratin, but Zyrtec works better for me.)  Benadryl does unless I am doing something active.  So it's fine to take Benadryl and go walk, hike, ride, etc, but not fine to take Benadryl and try to read a contract.   :sleep: 


This is how Zyrtec is for me. I'm generally ok while I'm moving but when I stop zzzzzz
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lintu on April 14, 2013, 09:11:14 AM
I love nasal steroids.  Best thing ever.

Claritin and Zyrtec, etc, don't make me tired, but they also do nothing for my allergies.  Prior to Veramyst, the only thing that helped my allergies was Benadryl, and that knocks me out big time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 14, 2013, 05:05:01 PM
I stepped on the scale today and it had been two weeks since I last weighed and I was down 5 lbs!  Granted it was after my run, but I had eaten three times and I usually weigh myself after my run.  I had to get on my scale 3-4 times since I thought it was broken.. It's the lowest I've weighed in forever.  And frankly, I'm not even trying too hard right now.  I figured I'd wait until after my half next week and put another big push on then before I start my marathon training.

I am logging my food, but I have had wine and some pasta and I haven't been totally within calories. And I had upped my fitness pal to 1700 calories a day, not even counting my exercise calories.. I have been doing yoga 3x/week plus running 5 or 6 days.

Some times I think I lose better when I add some calories in.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 14, 2013, 06:24:54 PM
Nice work, MoS!
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Post by: all-smiles on April 14, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
MoS: you should look at the group on there titled "eat more to weight less". Often times they post in the general forums under the 'in place of a road map'thread title; it's some interesting reading. 

PS: amazing job! You've been kicking butt in a lot of arenas lately :heartbeat:
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 15, 2013, 06:34:15 AM
MoS: you should look at the group on there titled "eat more to weight less". Often times they post in the general forums under the 'in place of a road map'thread title; it's some interesting reading. 

PS: amazing job! You've been kicking butt in a lot of arenas lately :heartbeat:


I'll have to check that out.  I mostly log on in my phone and I don't think the forums come up on the phone?
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Post by: Ice Cream on April 15, 2013, 07:10:37 AM
I stepped on the scale today and it had been two weeks since I last weighed and I was down 5 lbs!  Granted it was after my run, but I had eaten three times and I usually weigh myself after my run.  I had to get on my scale 3-4 times since I thought it was broken.. It's the lowest I've weighed in forever.  And frankly, I'm not even trying too hard right now.  I figured I'd wait until after my half next week and put another big push on then before I start my marathon training.

I am logging my food, but I have had wine and some pasta and I haven't been totally within calories. And I had upped my fitness pal to 1700 calories a day, not even counting my exercise calories.. I have been doing yoga 3x/week plus running 5 or 6 days.

Some times I think I lose better when I add some calories in.

did you buy that green dress?  Will you stiff fit into it?
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Post by: MiniDriver on April 15, 2013, 12:23:54 PM
Yay MoS!

I'm still struggling with binging.  Candy and bread/crackers.  I'm trying to break the binge/guilt/self-hatred/binge cycle, but it seems impossible.   It's especially annoying because I'd just gotten to a point where I was happy with how my clothes fit, happy with how I looked in the mirror.  Now I'm back to clothes being a tad too snug and looking lumpy.  Not a good feeling heading into Spring and Summer. 



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Post by: all-smiles on April 15, 2013, 02:05:40 PM
Yay MoS!

I'm still struggling with binging.  Candy and bread/crackers.  I'm trying to break the binge/guilt/self-hatred/binge cycle, but it seems impossible.   It's especially annoying because I'd just gotten to a point where I was happy with how my clothes fit, happy with how I looked in the mirror.  Now I'm back to clothes being a tad too snug and looking lumpy.  Not a good feeling heading into Spring and Summer.


Ugh, the only way I can gain control over most simple carbs is complete avoidance :grr: It's like a damn drug once I start; so for the most part I just don't get started...because once I do, whooo boy!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BobM59 on April 16, 2013, 08:18:39 AM
Ugh, the only way I can gain control over most simple carbs is complete avoidance :grr: It's like a damn drug once I start; so for the most part I just don't get started...because once I do, whooo boy!

You're absolutely right; it's the insulin response that triggers massive spikes in sugar.  You're not weak; it's that damned science working against you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 16, 2013, 10:19:22 AM
I can't stop weighing myself. It's like I think that having gone into maintenance, I am instantly going to gain because I'm not losing. WTF is wrong with me. I am definitely running enough to just eat normally. I need to get out of my head on this.
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Post by: cindyleigh on April 16, 2013, 11:40:32 AM
Well, so much for the Mediterranean diet!  Despite walking 30,000 steps a day and watching what I ate, I managed to gain 2 lbs in Barcelona.  (it was worth it!)

Back on the wagon, though!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 16, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
Considering doing a total detox.

Whole30 is on my mind. No grains, no sugar, among other things.  :yikes:

Talk me down! Will it be too much deprivation?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 16, 2013, 05:52:11 PM
My 2 cents is that there's nothing wrong with trying it out!
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 16, 2013, 05:55:32 PM
did you buy that green dress?  Will you stiff fit into it?
Going for the alterations on Friday.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 16, 2013, 05:57:23 PM
It's supposed to help with a lot of ailments, such as inflammation.. as well as some addictions. Right now I think I might be addicted to sugar. I got control of it last summer, but it's back in full force! I can do without bread. I can do without chocolate. Most grains. But sugar. I don't know.  :nails: I crave it. BAD.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 16, 2013, 05:58:34 PM
Ugh, the only way I can gain control over most simple carbs is complete avoidance :grr: It's like a damn drug once I start; so for the most part I just don't get started...because once I do, whooo boy!

I am totally a carb addict.. I am ok with an english muffin and egg for breakfast and sandwich with lean protein for lunch... as long as it's paired.. Bit crackers, cookies, toast, bread and butter at night set me off.. I try to not have carbs at night if possible unless I have a long run scheduled within two days or the week leading up to a race, like this week.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 16, 2013, 08:17:28 PM
Considering doing a total detox.

Whole30 is on my mind. No grains, no sugar, among other things.  :yikes:

Talk me down! Will it be too much deprivation?
What can you have? And focus on that ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 16, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
Considering doing a total detox.

Whole30 is on my mind. No grains, no sugar, among other things.  :yikes:

Talk me down! Will it be too much deprivation?

I'm not going to talk you down, I'm going to recommend it. :D  I love it.  I still cheat with my small bowl of oatmeal in the morning though.  Sometimes I alternate with an unsweetened coconut/fruit/nut thing, which is delicious, but I do love my oatmeal.  I haven't had bread, white potato, crackers, any of that for a few months. I do eat butter, but otherwise no dairy.  Lots and lots and lots of non-starchy veggies.  Avocados.  Lean meats.  It's the only way I've been able to control my carb addiction.  I don't miss living like that.  Plus, I no longer crave for that evening sip of wine.  I like the whole30 because it strips your diet down for 30 days, then you get to incrementally add in things week by week afterwards so you have the opportunity to feel how they affect you. 

Plus I feel better.
Plus I've now lost 27# since 2/1, without blinking an eye.


Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 16, 2013, 10:06:21 PM
I've been researching menus and food lists. I must have a plan if I am going to be successful. I tried to get DH to do it with me, but no dice. I'm still on the fence but I'm pretty sure this is going to happen in May. I have to wait until after our city's annual 2 week-long party called Fiesta. I must have my once-a-year funnel cake. It's non-negotiable.  :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 17, 2013, 06:59:06 AM
Considering doing a total detox.

Whole30 is on my mind. No grains, no sugar, among other things.  :yikes:

Talk me down! Will it be too much deprivation?

Why should we talk you down? Why would we object to anyone eating like this?  I copied this from my google search:

The Whole30 in a nut shell is, “Eat real food – meat, seafood, eggs, tons of vegetables, some fruit, and plenty of good fats from fruits, oils, nuts and seeds”. Eat foods with very few ingredients, all pronounceable ingredients, or better yet, no ingredients listed at all because they’re totally natural and unprocessed.

But I do not understand where the grains objection comes in.  What is wrong with plain oatmeal or rice?  To me, that is real food. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 17, 2013, 07:22:07 AM
Ice cream, the cliff note version is that some people don't digest grains well and other people don't metabolize them well.  (insulin resistance).  Plus, nutritionally speaking grains are empty calories compared to veggies.

I think it's a great trial for a person to go grain free for a while.  Grain free doesn't mean carb free- the point of the whole 30 isn't to lose weight, it's to teach a different way of eating.  Many people lose weight anyway.  Eat plenty of fruits, squashes and there will be enough carbs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2013, 07:24:44 AM
I did the Eat To Live (i think that is what it was called, dr furman?) diet a couple years ago and may go back to that. It was heavily based on veggies, and limited amounts of legumes and grains. I did not lose any weight, but i was also nursing at the time, so i may try it again, gotta find where i put the book.
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Post by: leggova on April 17, 2013, 08:29:41 AM
Plus, nutritionally speaking grains are empty calories compared to veggies.

http://www.choosemyplate.gov/food-groups/grains-why.html (http://www.choosemyplate.gov/food-groups/grains-why.html)


Nutrients
Grains are important sources of many nutrients, including dietary fiber, several B vitamins (thiamin, riboflavin, niacin, and folate), and minerals (iron, magnesium, and selenium).
Dietary fiber from whole grains or other foods, may help reduce blood cholesterol levels and may lower risk of heart disease, obesity, and type 2 diabetes. Fiber is important for proper bowel function. It helps reduce constipation and diverticulosis. Fiber-containing foods such as whole grains help provide a feeling of fullness with fewer calories.
The B vitamins thiamin, riboflavin, and niacin play a key role in metabolism – they help the body release energy from protein, fat, and carbohydrates. B vitamins are also essential for a healthy nervous system. Many refined grains are enriched with these B vitamins.
Folate (folic acid), another B vitamin, helps the body form red blood cells. Women of childbearing age who may become pregnant should consume adequate folate from foods, and in addition 400 mcg of synthetic folic acid from fortified foods or supplements. This reduces the risk of neural tube defects, spina bifida, and anencephaly during fetal development.
Iron is used to carry oxygen in the blood. Many teenage girls and women in their childbearing years have iron-deficiency anemia. They should eat foods high in heme-iron (meats) or eat other iron containing foods along with foods rich in vitamin C, which can improve absorption of non-heme iron. Whole and enriched refined grain products are major sources of non-heme iron in American diets.
Whole grains are sources of magnesium and selenium. Magnesium is a mineral used in building bones and releasing energy from muscles. Selenium protects cells from oxidation. It is also important for a healthy immune system.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 17, 2013, 08:42:10 AM
I'm too busy to google right now- compare nutrient density of whole grains vs. veggies.  Unenriched grains.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: leggova on April 17, 2013, 09:45:43 AM
I'm too busy to google right now- compare nutrient density of whole grains vs. veggies.  Unenriched grains.

It was your use of the term "empty"....

BTW...ever get a response from that woman about the different ways that the body uses energy from carbs vs protein?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 17, 2013, 09:52:56 AM
I can understand making choices that lean toward more nutritionally dense foods, ie, getting more bang for your buck in what you consume...but that doesn't make the other stuff empty, when you're talking about real food. Doritos = empty. Whole grains = not empty.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2013, 10:24:01 AM
I can understand making choices that lean toward more nutritionally dense foods, ie, getting more bang for your buck in what you consume...but that doesn't make the other stuff empty, when you're talking about real food. Doritos = empty. Whole grains = not empty.
1!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 17, 2013, 12:14:28 PM
So I hesitate to jump in now with talk of frozen yogurt but I'm too excited so want to share that we just bought a Yonanas.  :)  I was waffling about buying one but DD had a tough dentist visit this morning and frozen banana yogurt seemed like the perfect solution.  It makes really delicious banana frozen yogurt (only had bananas in the freezer.)  I can't wait to freeze up more fruit and try it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 17, 2013, 12:53:54 PM
So I hesitate to jump in now with talk of frozen yogurt but I'm too excited so want to share that we just bought a Yonanas.  :)  I was waffling about buying one but DD had a tough dentist visit this morning and frozen banana yogurt seemed like the perfect solution.  It makes really delicious banana frozen yogurt (only had bananas in the freezer.)  I can't wait to freeze up more fruit and try it!

ooh, fun!! 

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 17, 2013, 12:54:57 PM
I can understand making choices that lean toward more nutritionally dense foods, ie, getting more bang for your buck in what you consume...but that doesn't make the other stuff empty, when you're talking about real food. Doritos = empty. Whole grains = not empty.

ITA with this! I found that mostly protein and veggies worked fine for me when I was not excercising much. But once I started to kick up the miles in running... I needed more and my stomach could only tolerate so much in terms of all the fiber between the produce and whole grains. So, I actually went back to some pretty refined carbs and it worked out ok. I just don't think it's a simple as "good" vs "bad". Ok... I agree that doritos and coke are bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 17, 2013, 12:56:28 PM
I've been researching menus and food lists. I must have a plan if I am going to be successful. I tried to get DH to do it with me, but no dice. I'm still on the fence but I'm pretty sure this is going to happen in May. I have to wait until after our city's annual 2 week-long party called Fiesta. I must have my once-a-year funnel cake. It's non-negotiable.  :D

:D

It sounds very much like paleo, which I'm loosely following.  More fruit than the recomend on paleo, but it's definitely a better way of eating.

Grains are out for me, mostly due to gluten.  But even the GF ones are not much of a staple in my diet anymore.  Occassionally I'll bake with oats, and corn is still hard to avoid, but it's definitely good.  For me, the things I overeat on are grain based, and sugar based.  So corn chips, pasta, bread, candy, etc...  I don't think you can go wrong with whole foods. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 17, 2013, 01:13:54 PM
I can understand making choices that lean toward more nutritionally dense foods, ie, getting more bang for your buck in what you consume...but that doesn't make the other stuff empty, when you're talking about real food. Doritos = empty. Whole grains = not empty.

But this is part of the reason I love the Whole 30 so much.  It's quite up front about saying that food like Doritos shouldn't be included in comparisons.  It compares whole foods against whole foods.  And then, unlike the EFL diet that meri suggested that seems to limit whole grains for life, it's designed for you to make your own decisions afterwards.

This is a screenshot of the software I use to balance what my horses eat.  It's very basic.  It does show mineral ratios on another screen.  I can project for intended weight gain or loss, exercise level, throw in some parameters for diseased horses (insulin resistance), insert what I want to feed and it tells me how well I'm meeting the NRC guidelines. 

I wish there were something similar for humans, because if you're meeting your goals and daily requirements, I don't give a fcuk what you eat!
(http://www.horsejournals.com/files/styles/listing_image_no_crop/public/pictures-videos/listings/21.png?itok=aF2reJn9)

It even lets me mouse over each of those bars and it tells me the percentages of foodstuffs each nutrient comes from.  I love this software, it could be more comprehensive but it's not that expensive.  It's gone through the bother of loading most commercial feeds and if you're feeding whole feeds it puts in national averages.  Or, if you do your own feed testing you can enter in that data.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 17, 2013, 01:21:50 PM
So I hesitate to jump in now with talk of frozen yogurt but I'm too excited so want to share that we just bought a Yonanas.  :)  I was waffling about buying one but DD had a tough dentist visit this morning and frozen banana yogurt seemed like the perfect solution.  It makes really delicious banana frozen yogurt (only had bananas in the freezer.)  I can't wait to freeze up more fruit and try it!
fabulous! and our Vitamix does the job perfectly as well ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 17, 2013, 01:26:05 PM
Yeah, but my point is that there is a place in my diet for all whole foods. I'm not fueling myself like a horse. And (short of food allergies or intolerances) I'm not throwing out an entire food group, wholesale. YMMV.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 17, 2013, 01:33:07 PM
Yeah, but my point is that there is a place in my diet for all whole foods. I'm not fueling myself like a horse. And (short of food allergies or intolerances) I'm not throwing out an entire food group, wholesale. YMMV.

The Whole30 doesn't throw out any whole food long term.  Well, maybe white sugar.  It's intended to be like a reset button.  The 30 means 30 days. And I hope you're not fueling yourself exactly like a horse, their basic calorie requirement is around 19,000 calories a day.  Otherwise, IMO, the basic premise of meeting nutritional and energy needs is the same.  It's absolutely how I look at nutrition.  Easier, because they don't mind eating the same thing every day.  Each of my beasts has a vastly different diet depending on workload, weight, and how they utilize fats and carbs.  One gets 3# a day of a super high carb diet (heresy for some horse owners), another needs fat/fiber for energy to be at his best.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 17, 2013, 01:37:16 PM
.  Each of my beasts has a vastly different diet depending on workload, weight, and how they utilize fats and carbs.  One gets 3# a day of a super high carb diet (heresy for some horse owners), another needs fat/fiber for energy to be at his best.

...and yet we try and one sized approach for ourselves. It's just not that simple.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 17, 2013, 01:48:20 PM
...and yet we try and one sized approach for ourselves. It's just not that simple.

I didn't try low carb for years because I didn't think it was rational.  Moderation is KEY!  JUST EAT WHOLE GRAINS!

If you're happy with your diet, wonderful!  If you're complaining about diet related issues, change it up.  I did.  I ate the humble pie of all the crap I gave low carbers over the years.  Went for it and love it.

Even meeting the NRC isn't enough with the ponies- they're all different and if deficiencies are noted they're addressed.  (Copper/zinc, vit E/selenium, you know the drill)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Lintu on April 17, 2013, 05:27:23 PM
I've been wanting to try Whole30 but I need a LOT of calories right now and I'm not sure I can afford to get them with zero grains!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 17, 2013, 09:42:39 PM
I already eat a mostly whole food diet. We cook almost all of our meals. I'm so used to cooking that when I DO eat restaurant food, I get a dehydration headache from all the salt.

My hesitation is the grain thing. I love my grains! I don't believe they are evil. I do think refined flour and such should not be in any diet. We eat rice at least 3 times a week. Corn is a staple too in the form of tortillas and chalupa shells. However. I wonder if taking all the grains and other allergens out then slowly adding each one back in will help me determine what is causing my incessant itching! I seriously think it's food-related. But I can't pinpoint it. It might be the sugar. It might be the wheat. I am also bloating and have strange IBS issues.

I think I just talked myself into it.  :nails:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 18, 2013, 08:03:32 AM
I already eat a mostly whole food diet. We cook almost all of our meals. I'm so used to cooking that when I DO eat restaurant food, I get a dehydration headache from all the salt.

My hesitation is the grain thing. I love my grains! I don't believe they are evil. I do think refined flour and such should not be in any diet. We eat rice at least 3 times a week. Corn is a staple too in the form of tortillas and chalupa shells. However. I wonder if taking all the grains and other allergens out then slowly adding each one back in will help me determine what is causing my incessant itching! I seriously think it's food-related. But I can't pinpoint it. It might be the sugar. It might be the wheat. I am also bloating and have strange IBS issues.

I think I just talked myself into it.  :nails:



My dr. linked the itching to the non active ingredients in my supplements.  He was right.  Apparently, lots of pills have some ingredient that causes itching.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: caito on April 18, 2013, 08:14:17 AM
And I hope you're not fueling yourself exactly like a horse, their basic calorie requirement is around 19,000 calories a day. 

I wish I were a horse.  I'd be awesome at it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 18, 2013, 08:15:04 AM
I had a major reaction to zinc supplements last year (the only thing that showed up not normal on my blood work) and got an itchy rash all over my face.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on April 18, 2013, 09:01:35 AM
I wish I were a horse.  I'd be awesome at it.

 :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 18, 2013, 10:26:51 AM
I already eat a mostly whole food diet. We cook almost all of our meals. I'm so used to cooking that when I DO eat restaurant food, I get a dehydration headache from all the salt.

My hesitation is the grain thing. I love my grains! I don't believe they are evil. I do think refined flour and such should not be in any diet. We eat rice at least 3 times a week. Corn is a staple too in the form of tortillas and chalupa shells. However. I wonder if taking all the grains and other allergens out then slowly adding each one back in will help me determine what is causing my incessant itching! I seriously think it's food-related. But I can't pinpoint it. It might be the sugar. It might be the wheat. I am also bloating and have strange IBS issues.

I think I just talked myself into it.  :nails:



There is a form of celiac disease that manifests in itchy skin.  I know two people who have this, it's like dermatitis or something.  I don't know for sure. 

Caito- :D  :D 

I weighed in again this morning for my official WW weight.  Up less than a pound, which is odd considering I've been down over a pound for several days.   :eyeroll:  I suspect it's some salt from last night?  AND, on top of that, my folks were here for 4 days (thursday night thru tues morning, actually) and while I ate WAY better than I would have in the recent past, it was still a lot of eating out, and I didn't track much.  So I'm not too bummed about a slight bump in weight.  I bet I'm back down again tomorrow, and then hopefully even a bit more next week. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 18, 2013, 11:11:55 AM
I want to be a horse, too.  Love love love oats.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 18, 2013, 09:49:14 PM
Woot!  Just took my BP- it's down from 144/83 in January to 119/74.  Happy dance! It hasn't been this low for years!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 18, 2013, 10:05:36 PM
:w00t:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 19, 2013, 06:41:11 AM
Woot!  Just took my BP- it's down from 144/83 in January to 119/74.  Happy dance! It hasn't been this low for years!

Well played!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 19, 2013, 06:50:14 AM
Note to self: do NOT weigh in the morning after a dinner event at Maggiano's.  :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 19, 2013, 04:48:27 PM
oh yeah.  I'll bet.

In unnecessary gadget news, I just made banana strawberry froyo in the Yonanas machine.  I don't have any trouble getting my DD to eat fresh fruit in general, but it is pretty nice having her beg for the yogurt as her one special treat of the day.  And the consistency is really nice.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 19, 2013, 04:54:23 PM
Cool! I haven't looked into that much but it does look like fun.

Yeah, I am kind of irritated - I had a great, solid week otherwise, and ran Tu, We, and today, not to mention the 12 I did on Sunday - but just one day of having a chicken salad club sandwich for lunch and a heavier (but not talking gorging over the top here) dinner with wine and dessert, and I am up 4 pounds today. WTF? This is why my head gets all twisted around doing maintenance and not consciously working on losing. I feel like I drop my guard for one day and it's blown. It took me weeks to get to that goal number, half to a pound at a time, and now I'm back where I was about a month or more ago. Just like that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on April 19, 2013, 05:56:03 PM
Woot!  Just took my BP- it's down from 144/83 in January to 119/74.  Happy dance! It hasn't been this low for years!

 :)
Awesome!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: witchypoo on April 20, 2013, 12:12:14 PM
Cool! I haven't looked into that much but it does look like fun.

Yeah, I am kind of irritated - I had a great, solid week otherwise, and ran Tu, We, and today, not to mention the 12 I did on Sunday - but just one day of having a chicken salad club sandwich for lunch and a heavier (but not talking gorging over the top here) dinner with wine and dessert, and I am up 4 pounds today. WTF? This is why my head gets all twisted around doing maintenance and not consciously working on losing. I feel like I drop my guard for one day and it's blown. It took me weeks to get to that goal number, half to a pound at a time, and now I'm back where I was about a month or more ago. Just like that.

SALT.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 20, 2013, 06:30:21 PM
SALT.


 :!:

Oh yeah. Restaurant food.

This week will be better.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on April 21, 2013, 12:37:22 AM
Cgraz realistically you know you didn't gain four lbs overnight; salt and extra alcohol will do it every time :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 22, 2013, 02:35:30 PM
Saw this on FB today:

 :sidesplit:

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/s480x480/391158_485335458207168_1317317541_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 22, 2013, 02:40:36 PM
 :roll:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 22, 2013, 03:00:37 PM
I was watching an HBO documentary about diet and a Dr who researches obesity was explaining that a person who had lost weight and was now a healthy weight would need 20% less calories to maintain that weight than someone who had been that same low weight their whole adult lives. And the effect never seems to disappear.

Awesome.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on April 22, 2013, 03:46:01 PM
I was watching an HBO documentary about diet and a Dr who researches obesity was explaining that a person who had lost weight and was now a healthy weight would need 20% less calories to maintain that weight than someone who had been that same low weight their whole adult lives. And the effect never seems to disappear.

Awesome.

I've read similar things...  I do think it has to do with losing muscle mass, tho.  Did they talk about why the thought this was? 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 22, 2013, 04:37:01 PM
I was watching an HBO documentary about diet and a Dr who researches obesity was explaining that a person who had lost weight and was now a healthy weight would need 20% less calories to maintain that weight than someone who had been that same low weight their whole adult lives. And the effect never seems to disappear.

Awesome.

Yes, I think there are a number of studies supporting this. The diet I follow includes a table that shows you what your "maintain" calorie level is for your age/height/activity level/weight. I think for me the calorie difference is about 250/day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 22, 2013, 04:50:04 PM
I've read similar things...  I do think it has to do with losing muscle mass, tho.  Did they talk about why the thought this was? 

He said it was something metabolic but there is no way to overcome it (so likely not muscle related...though he didnt say this).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 22, 2013, 04:53:27 PM
Yes, I think there are a number of studies supporting this. The diet I follow includes a table that shows you what your "maintain" calorie level is for your age/height/activity level/weight. I think for me the calorie difference is about 250/day.

But he explained that it is aside from all those factors. You can have two folks with the same stats for every one of those factors and the person who lost 50 pounds 5 years ago will have a much lower caloric need for some metabolic reason.

Which explains why it is so difficult to maintain if you have ever been significantly overweight.

I think the key though is not to use it as an excuse. Although sometimes that is damn hard.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 22, 2013, 04:58:24 PM
But he explained that it is aside from all those factors. You can have two folks with the same stats for every one of those factors and the person who lost 50 pounds 5 years ago will have a much lower caloric need for some metabolic reason.

Right... that's what I'm saying. There is one table for people who've never lost weight and a different for those who have. It's sad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 22, 2013, 05:05:09 PM
Couldn't/doesn't that also link to leptin resistance?

Re: muscles, isn't it also because dieting can cause them to become fat adapted- slow twitch vs fast twitch?  That's not entirely a bad thing, I remember having discussions with either Looney or Droopy about using diet to better fat adapt muscles for ultras.

If they can be fat adapted, can't they be switched back through appropriate training?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 22, 2013, 05:19:45 PM
Right... that's what I'm saying. There is one table for people who've never lost weight and a different for those who have. It's sad.

It sucks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 22, 2013, 05:20:58 PM
Couldn't/doesn't that also link to leptin resistance?

Re: muscles, isn't it also because dieting can cause them to become fat adapted- slow twitch vs fast twitch?  That's not entirely a bad thing, I remember having discussions with either Looney or Droopy about using diet to better fat adapt muscles for ultras.

If they can be fat adapted, can't they be switched back through appropriate training?

I don't think they have pinned down the cause.

I know nothing about the second part of your statement but it doesn't sound right to me. I would have to look up some studies.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 22, 2013, 05:32:15 PM
http://www.meandmydiabetes.com/2012/08/11/western-states-100-low-carber-wins-ultramarathon-steve-phinney-and-jeff-volek-study/ (http://www.meandmydiabetes.com/2012/08/11/western-states-100-low-carber-wins-ultramarathon-steve-phinney-and-jeff-volek-study/)

That sort of thing. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 22, 2013, 06:17:38 PM
I have been starving lately and DD refused to get in tthe jogging stroller all weekend :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 22, 2013, 08:21:22 PM
I have been starving lately and DD refused to get in tthe jogging stroller all weekend :(

what is her objection?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 22, 2013, 08:30:51 PM
what is her objection?
Sunday was cold and Saturday she just wanted to go to the playground and run at the track. She made it 2/3 mile and was one :D she is almost four, can't force her to get in. That can turn into a nightmare.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 22, 2013, 08:39:53 PM
We reached a point where J wouldn't get in anymore.  I hope you're not at that point yet but if you are then your DH will just need to help a bit more.   :hug:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on April 22, 2013, 10:26:33 PM
Umm, I *might* be known for getting hangry 0:)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 23, 2013, 07:36:50 AM
Sunday was cold and Saturday she just wanted to go to the playground and run at the track. She made it 2/3 mile and was one :D she is almost four, can't force her to get in. That can turn into a nightmare.

let's hope it's just a one time thing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 23, 2013, 12:12:45 PM
http://www.korr.com/solutions/files/faq-4-3.pdf (http://www.korr.com/solutions/files/faq-4-3.pdf)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 23, 2013, 01:58:18 PM
We reached a point where J wouldn't get in anymore.  I hope you're not at that point yet but if you are then your DH will just need to help a bit more.   :hug:
how old was she when she stopped? We have gone thru phases where she wants to go in then does not want to go in, but then down the road changes her mind and asks to go in. I think she wants to run herself now, but she did not go for the, why don't you sit in the stroller and you can run down our street at the end? LOL! I thought she would be good for atleast a mile at the park, but we only madei t 2/3.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 23, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
Around 3ish. The "I can do it myself" phase kicked in hard then. After that she'd only get in for rare occasions and not for long.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 23, 2013, 06:22:37 PM
Around 3ish. The "I can do it myself" phase kicked in hard then. After that she'd only get in for rare occasions and not for long.
so i guess i should be happy we made it this far, as she turns four in May.  :'( She wanted to go a month ago, so hoping it was just an off weekend.

when i was running my race 2 weeks ago, a guy pushing a double jogging stroller (up the hill!) started running with me. He was a marathoner and was asking me all these questions about running 100 miles. he was like, how does it work? i said, well, it is 8 loops of 12.5 miles. He said, no no, like HOW do you do this? LOL. but i was like, SHIT! you are pushing TWO kids up a hill!!!!  :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: ZiggyStardust on April 24, 2013, 12:37:21 PM
so i guess i should be happy we made it this far, as she turns four in May. 

Definitely! :d

Signed,
The mom of a kid who  has NEVER in his 3 years enjoyed riding in a stroller for any length of time. :pissed:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 24, 2013, 12:43:04 PM
Definitely! :d

Signed,
The mom of a kid who  has NEVER in his 3 years enjoyed riding in a stroller for any length of time. :pissed:

Mine too! She started walking at 10 months and would NEVER sit in the stroller once she was mobile. Not for a minute.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 24, 2013, 03:21:59 PM
I have a physical on Monday.  :panic: :pissed: I hate getting weighed!
Ever since I was an overweight kid, being weighed freaks me out.

I'm fit, strong, and healthy.
However, I am fluffier than when I last went to the doc.
 :skeered:
I don't wanna get weighted....simply put, I'm paranoid over numbers on the scale.

Just venting.

Carry on.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on April 24, 2013, 03:23:58 PM
I hate it too.   :hug:  You can ask them not to tell you the number. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 24, 2013, 03:34:26 PM
I shall avert my eyes when I step onto the platform....

"okay, mrs. Porty, looks like you're a few pounds heavier than when you were here in 2011."

...yah, I'll request: ixnay on the atfay.
 :fuz
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 24, 2013, 06:08:49 PM
Can you request not to be weighed? I do.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on April 24, 2013, 06:55:38 PM
Meri,
I did that once, years ago, with a different clinic.
I could try it again, I suppose.
Or just suck it up and admit I am a plump middleagedrecreationaljogger.
 :nono:


:)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: ZiggyStardust on April 24, 2013, 07:09:05 PM
I have a physical on Monday.  :panic: :pissed: I hate getting weighed!
Ever since I was an overweight kid, being weighed freaks me out.

I'm fit, strong, and healthy.
However, I am fluffier than when I last went to the doc.
 :skeered:
I don't wanna get weighted....simply put, I'm paranoid over numbers on the scale.

Just venting.

Carry on.

True dat!  We had a nurse come to the house for life insurance physicals last week, and the scale he brought definitely weighed "heavier" than my normal bathroom scale (which I step on once in a blue moon).  Plus, I was fully clothed for the life insurance physical, so perhaps that added a tad bit of weight...but when I saw the number I was like wha-wha-whaaaat???  :panic: 

I know, I'm about 10 lb heavier than pre-kid, and I just can't get that weight to move (in fairness, I'm not trying as hard as I could be; but I'm also not eating THAT differently than I used to)...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 24, 2013, 07:24:10 PM
I did my life insurance physical six months pregnant!  :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: ZiggyStardust on April 24, 2013, 07:43:13 PM
I did my life insurance physical six months pregnant!  :panic:

See, a high number then wouldn't have bothered me, really; I'd have been all, "Well, I'm nurturing another life within my own body."   8)

But now?  No excuse except my twin loves of dessert and beer, and the fact that I'm no longer training for marathons...   :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: bensmom243 on April 24, 2013, 08:29:21 PM
Can you request not to be weighed? I do.

My doctor doesn't make patients get on the scale.  In her experience, too many women skip physicals because they don't want to get weighed, so she takes that piece out. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 24, 2013, 08:32:51 PM
My doctor doesn't make patients get on the scale.  In her experience, too many women skip physicals because they don't want to get weighed, so she takes that piece out.
:heartbeat:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on April 24, 2013, 08:53:27 PM
I refuse to get weighed, but I have no weight to lose.  Getting weighed makes me feel like cattle.

My gynecologist always makes a comment about it, like "I do not understand why you don't want to get weighed."  My gen. practitioner never makes any comment, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on April 25, 2013, 01:32:17 PM
I just discovered Morningstar Farms chickpea 'burgers' and they're SO good.  They are 3 WW points which is not bad and very filling.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 27, 2013, 07:15:15 AM
Question:
I keep hearing that it's almost impossible to burn fat while your insulin levels are peaked.  (as in, directly after a meal)

It sounds true, is it?

Like this line of thinking:
http://drritamarie.com/blog/2012/04/25/hypoglycemia-and-the-myth-of-eating-frequent-small-meals/ (http://drritamarie.com/blog/2012/04/25/hypoglycemia-and-the-myth-of-eating-frequent-small-meals/)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 27, 2013, 10:06:59 AM
Question:
I keep hearing that it's almost impossible to burn fat while your insulin levels are peaked.  (as in, directly after a meal)

It sounds true, is it?

Like this line of thinking:
http://drritamarie.com/blog/2012/04/25/hypoglycemia-and-the-myth-of-eating-frequent-small-meals/ (http://drritamarie.com/blog/2012/04/25/hypoglycemia-and-the-myth-of-eating-frequent-small-meals/)
i should not be hungry until at least 5-6 hours after a meal? wtf? i would die.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 27, 2013, 11:44:48 AM
Question:
I keep hearing that it's almost impossible to burn fat while your insulin levels are peaked.  (as in, directly after a meal)

It sounds true, is it?

Like this line of thinking:
http://drritamarie.com/blog/2012/04/25/hypoglycemia-and-the-myth-of-eating-frequent-small-meals/ (http://drritamarie.com/blog/2012/04/25/hypoglycemia-and-the-myth-of-eating-frequent-small-meals/)

It sounds really pseudosciency to me. This chick is a chiropracture and acupuncturist... that's where I stop reading. ;) She cites "recent research" but doesn't actually point to any of this recent research...etc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on April 27, 2013, 12:08:17 PM
It sounds really pseudosciency to me. This chick is a chiropracture and acupuncturist... that's where I stop reading. ;) She cites "recent research" but doesn't actually point to any of this recent research...etc.
 

I've been hearing about it over and over and over again.  That was just the first site that came up on a google search.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/425097-insulin-lipolysis/ (http://www.livestrong.com/article/425097-insulin-lipolysis/)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on April 27, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
 

I've been hearing about it over and over and over again.  That was just the first site that came up on a google search.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/425097-insulin-lipolysis/ (http://www.livestrong.com/article/425097-insulin-lipolysis/)

Here is a good article that I think talks about the concept (in relation to the zone diet)

http://escholarship.org/uc/item/9pg2j7wk (http://escholarship.org/uc/item/9pg2j7wk)

It seems as if it is a gross oversimplification...not 100% untrue but not correct either.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 27, 2013, 06:10:28 PM
It sounds really pseudosciency to me. This chick is a chiropracture and acupuncturist... that's where I stop reading. ;) She cites "recent research" but doesn't actually point to any of this recent research...etc.
chiropractor with a certificate in acupuncture to be exact, which is REALLY different. ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 28, 2013, 06:38:59 AM
I was waiting for MM to come and give it the MM Science CheckTM.  :D

So the salty restaurant food thing was spot-on, apparently, and I'm more or less back where I started...which is good. Trouble is, I like salty restaurant food!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on April 28, 2013, 06:46:33 AM
I was shocked when DD and I went to the vegan Chinese place the other day that my weight was not up! I am usually up 4+ lbs!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 28, 2013, 06:49:36 AM
The funny thing is, I salt a lot at the table* and it doesn't seem to have that effect at all...so restaurant food must have a TON. Yikes.

*Although let it be noted that mr. cgraz and I have a raging debate about this, in which I assert that it allows me to enjoy the salt but actually use less overall, because I taste it more by using the salt at the table, versus using more in the cooking process, during which I do season, but use a modest amount of salt, generally. He does not buy that theory. Either way, I love me some salt.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on April 28, 2013, 08:52:09 AM
I think leptin is an emerging area of research. So...

I lost 35 lbs eating 6 small meals a day. I still think a lot comes down to eating fewer calories...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: radial on April 28, 2013, 09:18:01 AM
The funny thing is, I salt a lot at the table* and it doesn't seem to have that effect at all...so restaurant food must have a TON. Yikes.

Might be the MSG in addition to the salt in restaurant food.  They both make you retain water.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on April 28, 2013, 11:46:10 AM
I think leptin is an emerging area of research. So...

I lost 35 lbs eating 6 small meals a day. I still think a lot comes down to eating fewer calories...

I think this is the reality behind a lot of things, like paleo and other special diets or ways of planning meals differently. They couple whatever the "gimmick" is with plain old sense like eating more veggies & fruit, less crap, and less overall. As long as it works for people, it's all good.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 01, 2013, 11:05:31 PM
I started the whole30 yesterday.

 :nails: :argh:
MUST. HAVE. SUGAR!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on May 02, 2013, 12:56:42 AM
Oh man days 3-5 I was a complete beast :skeered: it wasn't pretty at.all   :nono: Are you on there website? Lots of good info there and there was another blog called thefoodmakesthegirl that was great for recipe and weekly meal planning.  I also like paleomg.com however I think she has a few that are not WT approved.  Hang in there; maybe I'll join you over the next fe days,,,hmm!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 02, 2013, 06:43:12 AM
good luck ladies

I started crossfit this week (boot camp training class) so I'm sure I'll be hearing all about the benefits of paleo soon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on May 02, 2013, 06:56:20 AM
No doubt!

Is anyone else here doing CrossFit? All-smiles?

I lost those salty pounds after my post-pasta bloat, so I am hanging near goal weight again. We'll see how it ends up this week.

For the paleo stuff, when mr. cgraz did it, I found that weekly food prep was the key - so have plenty of fresh veggies & fruits cut up and ready to go, and do stuff like grill up a bunch of chicken or something. It definitely helps! (And that's true with any kind of healthy eating plan...)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 02, 2013, 07:09:15 AM
I am going to start Cross Fit after my May races.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on May 02, 2013, 11:06:07 AM
I started the whole30 yesterday.

 :nails: :argh:
MUST. HAVE. SUGAR!!!!!!

LOL.  It took me a week before I stopped wanting to stab everyone I saw.  Then the "flu" hit.  Drink boullion.  Maybe take some potassium.  It passes.  Honestly, I don't think about bread anymore.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 02, 2013, 01:42:45 PM


For the paleo stuff, when mr. cgraz did it, I found that weekly food prep was the key - so have plenty of fresh veggies & fruits cut up and ready to go, and do stuff like grill up a bunch of chicken or something. It definitely helps! (And that's true with any kind of healthy eating plan...)

It looks like it requires a lot of planning!  It's definitely not for me, but there are actually vegetarian Paleo followers.  not sure what they eat other than vegetables, nuts and eggs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 04, 2013, 11:44:29 PM
What do you mean by "flu" what's what's going to happen? Am I going to get sick!? noooooooooooo!

And I'm on day 5. and I sooooo wanted a dq dipped cone. Like bad.

I DID say no to cake yesterday and a cookie on day 2! Little victories.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 04, 2013, 11:48:15 PM
oh.. and my bottom number of my blood pressure is down significantly.

And i don't feel so bloaty and fat anymore.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on May 05, 2013, 06:34:07 AM
Some people don't get the "flu" at all, some get hit really hard with it.  I was whalloped!  It usually begins at around the seven day point and there are a lot of theories why. 

First, it is associated with lowering carbs.

Some feel it's a carb withdrawal.
Others feel it's forcing the body to use fat burning rather than glucose burning.
Others feel it's an electrolyte imbalance.

Having been through it, I'd say yes to all three.  Boullion helps with the electrolytes and is surprisingly yummy.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on May 06, 2013, 12:52:38 AM
I had the carb flu and one was one grumpy, exhausted witch :grr:  And even worse, I've backslid the last few weeks and am going cold turkey again tomorrow :pissed:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on May 06, 2013, 09:56:40 AM
I've heard that if you've been through it once and not a huge amount of time has passed since falling off the wagon that the second time around is not nearly as bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BobM59 on May 08, 2013, 09:16:17 PM
Thought I was at my goal weight.  Started eating more and lifting to try to pack on some good muscle.

Lost five more pounds.  Weighed in this morning at an absurd 171.5; this is a number that I don't even understand.  Thinking about reintroducing the carbs just to avoid losing more, even if it means I tack on some crap.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on May 09, 2013, 12:40:26 PM
Way to go Bob!  You're at a point that worries me a little.  I love what I eat and how much I eat.  I'm kinda hoping the weight loss slows/stops as I reach where I want to be so I don't have to change anything.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on May 09, 2013, 11:18:22 PM
Day 10. still no sugar and all that other stuff! I couldn't believe it was possible to have stew without rice.. but today i did just that.

So far so good. I honestly do not think I can live like this forever, but it has given me a nice foundation of healthy food combinations that don't include bread or rice.

For now, I'll see if I can go a few more days.. then a few more.  :) It has been a wonderful detox for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on May 10, 2013, 06:34:39 AM
Good stuff.  :)

Yeah, if nothing else it does prompt you to create a different kind of variety and changes some of those "go-to" food assumptions, like the need for rice.

Have you tried mashed cauliflower yet? I loved having that as a base for something like stew or chili. So yummy. I don't pretend it's mashed potatoes, I take it for what it is, but it is very tasty and makes a nice combo with those kinds of things.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on May 10, 2013, 01:40:37 PM
Tricia, are you allowed other kinds of grains? I was a HUGE rice lover but have learned to skip it most of the time. Sometimes I will use farro or barley (not pearled) instead.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: all-smiles on May 12, 2013, 12:41:14 AM
RA I think Tricia and a few others are doing a Whole 30 which is no grains at all; it's very limiting however, it's all about trying to establish a platform and new habits :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 16, 2013, 07:38:36 AM
I think us moms/parents need to be really careful about how we are around our kids. Our neighbor is 8yo and she is underweight for her age, always has been small, just like DD. Her mother is an eternal fad dieter (she is doing a detox diet right now) and the little girl refused a piece of cake the other night because she thinks she is getting fat.  :'( I am very careful about what i say around DD but i am going to be even more careful as she gets older. I grew up with a mother who did lots of fad dieting and it was really hard with my relationship with food. Hearing this 8yo talk about what her mom eats/diets/etc is really upsetting and always a good reminder. I know I am not perfect and there are times where i will say something to DH like, i am not going to eat that, it will make me fat, or that is too fattening for me to eat. DD is not part of the conversation, but kids are sponges. Must rework my wording, like, that food does not make me feel good when i eat it or that i am just not in the mood for it, instead of villainizing foods. I know in Dr Sear's healthy eating book for kids, he talks about discussing with children how healthy foods make them strong and grow and feel good, vs junk which does not.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BobM59 on May 16, 2013, 01:03:14 PM
Must rework my wording, like, that food does not make me feel good when i eat it or that i am just not in the mood for it, instead of villainizing foods. I know in Dr Sear's healthy eating book for kids, he talks about discussing with children how healthy foods make them strong and grow and feel good, vs junk which does not.

I think it's okay to be firm with your kids.  For example, if you teach them about insulin response, then they'll know that while sugar-loaded junk makes them feel GREAT for a bit, the lift will ultimately leave them even more hungry and unsatisfied than a piece of fruit and some yogurt.

Since my whole family has always been overweight, we are careful to try to set up good eating habits and push her to try lots of healthier foods.  We also try to reward good deeds with non-food rewards, but I also feel the occasional ice cream needs to be part of a kid's upbringing.

Balance and awareness, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on May 16, 2013, 08:12:43 PM
Yes! I had to stop myself more than once from saying something like, oh this ice cream will cheer you up.    :-\ But she gets ice cream, no fear there :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on May 18, 2013, 02:14:36 PM
So I'm going through my clothes and trying to organize for the season. I have 4 sizes to pack away - hard to believe just last summer, I was wearing the biggest of those. I'm torn about whether to bin them up and keep them packed away, or donate/give away. What if...

I'm still not confident in my ability to stay this size for the long term. I spent most of my adult life in the mid-range of the sizes I am packing away. This is uncharted territory.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on May 18, 2013, 03:56:24 PM
Donate.

When you keep them, you're allowing yourself license to gain again.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on May 18, 2013, 04:06:28 PM
I knew you were going to say that!  :panic:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on May 18, 2013, 04:13:14 PM
I knew you were going to say that!  :panic:



:D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Magic Microbe on May 18, 2013, 08:25:07 PM
So I tried to run on the treadmill here in Denver today. I almost died. The guy next to me noticed I was struggling and commented. He then proceeded to high five me and tell me he was going to stop at 3 but felt guilty when she saw me keep going to 5.

Apparently he didn't want to be bested by a fat chick.  :P
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on May 19, 2013, 12:49:42 PM
21 day challenge...
http://www.youtube.com/smashthefat (http://www.youtube.com/smashthefat)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on May 19, 2013, 02:07:30 PM
Donate.

When you keep them, you're allowing yourself license to gain again.

Meh. It's not like keeping the stuff that's too small encourages you to lose weight.  Even when it's stuff that you really really love. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on May 21, 2013, 04:49:33 PM
I guess I shouldn't have worried about whether a salad would be filling enough.  (Usually I find they aren't). 

Spinach, 3/4 of a grilled chicken breast, green olives, pine nuts, feta,  1 1/2 hard-boiled eggs, balsamic vinagrette.

I'm having trouble eating it all.  I guess I didn't need the eggs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on May 21, 2013, 11:15:50 PM
And...apparently it was filling enough that I just had a buttered English muffin and a glass of EmergenC and called it dinner.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 22, 2013, 11:02:53 AM
it sounds VERY filling, similar to a chef's salad
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on May 22, 2013, 11:03:40 AM
I met dulce de leche the night before last and my DH is SO happy.  He's content just to dip his spoon in; forget about spreading it on cookies.  (and I have no access to obleas here)
Thank goodness it's too sweet for me!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on May 26, 2013, 11:04:02 AM
Dulce de leche is my favorite ice cream.


I had creme brulee for my dessert last night.  I shared with my friend but I really wanted one to myself.

I am focusing on my daily activity....my goal is to get 5 days a week of something in....with 2 days including heavy weights. This week was a success.
I am focusing on my portions again, and I feel pretty good.  I think I am going to have to ditch my nightly wine though if I want to see any real changes since I am basically at a stable weight.
Boo.
I will try 1 week and see what happens.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on June 01, 2013, 04:09:36 PM
I hit another milestone today, 45# down.  Whoohoo!  There were a few goals- one a good weight (35# lost), a weight that would make me happy (45#lost), and a let's see what I look like if I weigh what I did in HS if I still feel motivated (55# lost).  I'm having a good time with it and feel like taking off the last 10# for fun.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on June 01, 2013, 04:49:27 PM
I hit another milestone today, 45# down.  Whoohoo!  There were a few goals- one a good weight (35# lost), a weight that would make me happy (45#lost), and a let's see what I look like if I weigh what I did in HS if I still feel motivated (55# lost).  I'm having a good time with it and feel like taking off the last 10# for fun.

Boom! Well played!
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 01, 2013, 09:47:38 PM
Nice work!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on June 02, 2013, 10:59:49 AM
fantastic!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 02, 2013, 04:19:50 PM
way to go!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on June 02, 2013, 05:00:30 PM
Damn, CheryG, nice job!!!

I'm down 5lb since getting my Fitbit and trying to up my produce and water intake.  I've also cut down my serving sizes and make sure that I either go for a walk, take a shower, or something incompatible with eating before deciding if I do indeed need seconds.  90% of the time I don't if I give myself that break.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 02, 2013, 08:14:11 PM
Those are VERY good ideas, Courtney. 

I was just given birthday money from my family (yes, my grandma still does that. lol) and may use it to treat myself to an Up from Jawbone.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on June 02, 2013, 08:40:51 PM
Thanks everyone!  This reminds me, I need help.  Will start a thread in Yammering, for Fionn.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 03, 2013, 05:43:50 AM
Damn, CheryG, nice job!!!

I'm down 5lb since getting my Fitbit and trying to up my produce and water intake.  I've also cut down my serving sizes and make sure that I either go for a walk, take a shower, or something incompatible with eating before deciding if I do indeed need seconds.  90% of the time I don't if I give myself that break.  :)

I like y fitbit, but the calorie estimate seems low.  I also think it counts extra steps, but I still like it for day-to-day comparison reasons.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 04, 2013, 12:51:09 AM
So I made it 3 weeks on the whole 30 and I felt great. Lost a few pounds. But with being so incredibly busy with so many changes in my life (AGAIN!!)  I lost the my mojo to plan all my meals and then everything went to hell. Now I'm all bloaty, itchy, and bitchy again.

Soo.. Starting on the 10th, (because my birthday is the 9th) I will start over. I got some good results as far as my blood pressure, overall happiness, and general energy go. So I am going to use that as a motivator.

Maybe I'll have time to post here again!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 04, 2013, 06:06:59 AM
So I made it 3 weeks on the whole 30 and I felt great. Lost a few pounds. But with being so incredibly busy with so many changes in my life (AGAIN!!)  I lost the my mojo to plan all my meals and then everything went to hell. Now I'm all bloaty, itchy, and bitchy again.

Soo.. Starting on the 10th, (because my birthday is the 9th) I will start over. I got some good results as far as my blood pressure, overall happiness, and general energy go. So I am going to use that as a motivator.

Maybe I'll have time to post here again!

Maybe you could consider planning some meals, but not all.  This would be an easier way into transitioning into a new life style.  It would avoid the feeling of "failure".  It would also be easier to maintain the new habits.  It does not have to be all or nothing.

Happy upcoming b'day!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 04, 2013, 08:47:51 AM
Funny. I Don't feel liked I "failed." I mean, yeah I couldn't make it the whole month. And I'm okay with that. It's just I need to get better at planning meals or else I fall back into my go-to meals of sandwiches and pasta and sugar.  :preen:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on June 04, 2013, 09:26:13 AM
Tf,
I read that as pasta and sugar sandwiches.  :skeered:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on June 04, 2013, 10:54:32 AM
Tf,
I read that as pasta and sugar sandwiches.  :skeered:

 :eats:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 05, 2013, 04:30:46 PM
:eats:

I know, right??!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: seattlegirl on June 12, 2013, 04:26:19 PM
Went to the doctor today... I'm 11 lbs lighter than 1 year ago!  Down 5.5 lb in about the last month, when I started weighing myself regularly again (and wearing my Fitbit).

Wednesdays are my night to cook.  I made a pasta salad with whole wheat pasta and olive tapenade as the dressing, to be served over mixed greens and alongside chicken sausages.  Mmm.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 12, 2013, 05:23:05 PM
good job, SG!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 12, 2013, 07:59:42 PM
Congratulations to SG
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Post by: diablita on June 12, 2013, 09:14:10 PM
yay SG!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on June 12, 2013, 09:22:21 PM
Hey, first time I've checked out this thread. I've been low-carb for 9 days and have lost some noticeable weight. Struggling with the "flu" a bit, I think, but overall doing fine.  :) Way to go, peeps!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on June 13, 2013, 07:20:12 AM
Greenman, have you tried upping your salt/potassium?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on June 13, 2013, 12:06:30 PM
Greenman, have you tried upping your salt/potassium?

Hadn't thought about it. I'm heading for the gym in a sec and I'll take a sport drink (homemade, no sugar) with some of both. I am salting my food pretty regularly. Would you recommend switching to "lite salt", that stuff with half NaCl and half KCl?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on June 13, 2013, 06:28:16 PM
I usually would take either an electrolyte tab or drink a cup of boullion.  If it's going to fix what ails ya, you'll feel the difference quite quickly. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on June 13, 2013, 06:42:08 PM
Cool, I keep forgetting about bouillon. I have some in the kitchen. Gotta get it out and go to town.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: qarhon on June 16, 2013, 12:34:21 PM
I'm starting the Whole 30 tomorrow (grocery shopping / planning today). I'm living alone for the next 5 weeks, so it's pretty good timing to not have to deal with other people's eating habits.

I've been dealing with a bunch of vitamin/mineral deficiencies over the past year despite eating 'healthy', and spent several months getting tested for a slew of possible GI conditions. None of which I apparently have. GI doc told me to just take a multivitamin and supplement as necessary :skep:, so I figure experimenting with my diet can't hurt too much...

Any tips?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 16, 2013, 01:22:28 PM
from the whole 30 website:
"Sugar, alcohol, grains, legumes and dairy are all food groups that have significant potential down sides, and may not contribute positively to your health.
The more you eliminate these “less healthy” foods from your everyday diet, the healthier you will be."


Grains and legumes, really?????  But we have covered this before.  Hundreds of times.




Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: qarhon on June 16, 2013, 04:14:10 PM
from the whole 30 website:
"Sugar, alcohol, grains, legumes and dairy are all food groups that have significant potential down sides, and may not contribute positively to your health.
The more you eliminate these “less healthy” foods from your everyday diet, the healthier you will be."


Grains and legumes, really?????  But we have covered this before.  Hundreds of times.


Yeah, it's extreme. But since I went through a ton of GI related tests recently I'm certainly willing to consider that food sensitivities of some sort could be related to my vitamin/mineral absorption issues. I don't really want to spend the rest of my life having blood drawn every 3-6 months to check on things and supplementing to fix problems; I've already been doing that with iron for almost 10 years.

I don't have the bio background to properly consider the scientific references the whole 30 group names but the self-experimentation aspect of it interests me most. It is essentially an elimination diet (which my doc had suggested I consider trying, anyway) where you add things back in one at a time after 30 days of restricted eating. I have no intention of eating this way long term (give up wine and cheese?  :nono:) but am hoping I might learn something useful about my body's reaction to foods. And giving up added sugars doesn't seem like a bad idea either.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on June 17, 2013, 06:15:51 AM
qarhon- good for you!  I don't have many tips for you, but I do have some.

The first week might be brutal.  Day three I would have killed for bread.  This will pass.

Plan for your weak points, whether it be hunger after work/before dinner, emotional eating, or eating while traveling.  I keep bags of baby carrots to snack on while making dinner, a few black olives maybe.  Emotional eating, well, the only time now I CRAVE grains is when I'm upset.  I know that and simply ignore it.  And as far as meals while traveling, most of the major grocery stores around here have excellent salad bars where I can fill up to my hearts content on good greens, shredded zucchini/squash/cabbage, etc.

Have fun with it and keep us posted!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 17, 2013, 07:01:02 AM
 :doglick: :hiker: :cat:  :purr: <--- Jessica is reading with me this morning
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 17, 2013, 07:50:55 AM
:doglick: :hiker: :cat:  :purr: <--- Jessica is reading with me this morning

I think she likes animals.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 17, 2013, 10:24:31 AM
good guess :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on June 17, 2013, 10:46:03 AM
Cravings sometimes pop up at weird times. I'm almost two weeks in, and last night I had the oddest urge for some malted milk balls.  :yikes: It's not a deprivation thing, like with pizza or whatever; I haven't had mmb's in AGES.  :old: I might have succumbed if I hadn't felt sorry for the malted milk men.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 17, 2013, 12:00:49 PM
qarhon good luck!! I LOVED how I felt when I was doing the whole30. If I could only make it through the entire 30 days!

It all comes down to planning.

I will start it again soon. This sugar fog is no bueno.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 17, 2013, 01:34:12 PM
from the whole 30 website:
"Sugar, alcohol, grains, legumes and dairy are all food groups that have significant potential down sides, and may not contribute positively to your health.
The more you eliminate these “less healthy” foods from your everyday diet, the healthier you will be."


Grains and legumes, really?????  But we have covered this before.  Hundreds of times.






You know, just because you do fine with them, and don't want/need to give them up doesn't make it BS. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 17, 2013, 01:51:06 PM
You know, just because you do fine with them, and don't want/need to give them up doesn't make it BS. 

Whole grains, legumes, and dairy, are unhealthy? For everyone?  :azn:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 17, 2013, 01:52:01 PM
Cravings sometimes pop up at weird times. I'm almost two weeks in, and last night I had the oddest urge for some malted milk balls.  :yikes: It's not a deprivation thing, like with pizza or whatever; I haven't had mmb's in AGES.  :old: I might have succumbed if I hadn't felt sorry for the malted milk men.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 17, 2013, 02:14:23 PM
Whole grains, legumes, and dairy, are unhealthy? For everyone?  :azn:

To be clear, I have never said that. 

But I get tired of people acting like it's bs that some people may not find themselves feeling good while eating either of them. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 17, 2013, 02:22:11 PM
To be clear, I have never said that. 

But I get tired of people acting like it's bs that some people may not find themselves feeling good while eating either of them. 


I totally did not read her post that way. What I read is that she was questioning the whole 30's position that grains, legumes, and dairy are unhealthy foods. They make a pretty broad sweeping statement. Not, "some people don't feel well when they eat them", but "the less you eat of them, the healthier you'll be". Personally, I think that's a bs thing to say. But, my feeling that way doesn't have any impact whatsoever on whether or not some people feel better eliminating all of those things from their diet. *shrug*
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 17, 2013, 02:44:56 PM
I'm perhaps oversensitive.  :)

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: qarhon on June 17, 2013, 04:49:19 PM
Thanks for the craving related tips - I'll make sure to stash a couple of Lara bars in my office in case I need something super convenient.

Day 1 has been easy, not surprisingly.  :D I'm tracking my food consumption to see which nutrients I need to focus on (fairly easy for veggies/fruit/meat) -- I'm getting plenty of Vitamin A, C, and folate but lacking in several other things (iron, calcium, Vit D and Vit B12 are all a bit low, but I didn't eat any red meat today). I can't really account for things beyond iron/calcium/vitC/vitA for foods with nutrition labels, though - so I'm not sure how much the canned salmon on my lunch salad contributed to those other categories.

I don't normally track, but it appears that my super filling meals today are lower total calories than I normally consume. I'm pretty happy with my current weight and will have to see if I need to adjust. Even with relatively low carb consumption and no grains, I'm still easily meeting daily recommended values for fiber intake.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on June 17, 2013, 05:17:49 PM
Since you're eating meat you should be fine on B12.  Calcium and vit D might be more tricky since you're not doing dairy, but D is hard to get in food anyway. Leafy greens are high in calcium, but they also contain compounds that make it harder to absorb the calcium.  Can you do nuts and seeds?  If it were me, I'd probably take a supplement and not worry about it, but if you're close to hitting your needs but not quite there I probably wouldn't worry about it too much.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 18, 2013, 02:31:40 PM
Yes to nuts and seeds.

And about grains being "unhealthy." It doesn't necessarily say that. It basically says some people are more sensitive to some food items, and thus it calls for eliminating them for the month. The whole purpose is at the end, you gradually add them back into your diet (in moderation and if you desire) and see what causes problems. They give reasons these foods are especially prone to causing problems (mold on peanuts, for example, may not affect everyone.)

I found my biggest addiction is sugar. It is also the one thing that causes my brain fog and crankiness when I eat too much of it.

So, yes.. I'm with Courtney. But maybe I'm just sensitive too.  :bouquet:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on June 18, 2013, 06:11:06 PM
Yes to nuts and seeds.

And about grains being "unhealthy." It doesn't necessarily say that. It basically says some people are more sensitive to some food items, and thus it calls for eliminating them for the month. The whole purpose is at the end, you gradually add them back into your diet (in moderation and if you desire) and see what causes problems. They give reasons these foods are especially prone to causing problems (mold on peanuts, for example, may not affect everyone.)

I found my biggest addiction is sugar. It is also the one thing that causes my brain fog and crankiness when I eat too much of it.

So, yes.. I'm with Courtney. But maybe I'm just sensitive too.  :bouquet:

Hey, at least we are in good company.   :preen:

Sugar.   :nono:  GAH. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on June 18, 2013, 06:40:12 PM
Hey, at least we are in good company.   :preen:

Sugar.   :nono:  GAH. 

I know. I just ate a giant Tiger's Blood shaved ice from the local sno cone stand. It was SOOOOOO good. But now I'm tired.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: qarhon on June 18, 2013, 08:01:40 PM
Since you're eating meat you should be fine on B12.  Calcium and vit D might be more tricky since you're not doing dairy, but D is hard to get in food anyway. Leafy greens are high in calcium, but they also contain compounds that make it harder to absorb the calcium.  Can you do nuts and seeds?  If it were me, I'd probably take a supplement and not worry about it, but if you're close to hitting your needs but not quite there I probably wouldn't worry about it too much.

I'm thinking going back on a multivitamin is a good move for now, anyway. I managed to end up with a B12 deficiency on a non-vegetarian diet while taking a multivitamin, and am a bit concerned I might have other undiagnosed deficiencies (docs only checked for most likely ones, I was on the low end in several). I took high doses of individual supplements for several months but stopped the multi at the time...

Nuts/seeds is a great recommendation - I hadn't realized they were so nutrient-rich overall! 20%+ DV iron in an ounce of pumpkin seed kernels and ~30% DV calcium in an ounce of sesame seeds is way more than I expected...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on June 18, 2013, 08:06:44 PM
I'm thinking going back on a multivitamin is a good move for now, anyway. I managed to end up with a B12 deficiency on a non-vegetarian diet while taking a multivitamin, and am a bit concerned I might have other undiagnosed deficiencies (docs only checked for most likely ones, I was on the low end in several).

Was me, I'd focus on the B complex. It's been many years since I took a nutrition class, but IIRC the B vitamins are crucial for the Krebs cycle, which is how you're converting food energy into body energy, and if that isn't operating at high efficiency now that you're changing energy soucres,  then you're likely to run down (and crave carbs -- IIRC sugar cravings, especially, may be a sign of B deficiencies, where the body thinks it's not getting enough food when actually it's just not converting enough).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 19, 2013, 05:13:39 AM
we eat a lot of nutritional yeast, that is very high in B vitamins.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on June 19, 2013, 06:25:30 AM
B deficiency in undiagnosed celiac patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11280545 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11280545)

While comparing nutritional yeast to animal sources of b vitamins, I learn that most nutritional yeast is fortified and that's why it's so high?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on June 19, 2013, 07:43:42 AM
yes it is fortified. I like giving it to DD because it is also has protein and iron in it. I make a paste out of it with a little earth balance spread for her tofu raviolis or gnocci.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on June 19, 2013, 08:36:53 AM
I mix it in with my eggs ( I'm an omnivore ) and sometimes in with beans/lentils.
 :preen:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: qarhon on June 19, 2013, 08:56:22 AM
B deficiency in undiagnosed celiac patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11280545 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11280545)

While comparing nutritional yeast to animal sources of b vitamins, I learn that most nutritional yeast is fortified and that's why it's so high?

Yeah, I read all about celiac over the past 6 months - I had tons of things going on suggestive of celiac but bloodwork and endoscopy both came back negative. I took 2 mg daily of sublingual B12 for over 6 months (daily dose needed is a couple of micrograms) and am finally back into normal-ish numbers.


yes it is fortified. I like giving it to DD because it is also has protein and iron in it. I make a paste out of it with a little earth balance spread for her tofu raviolis or gnocci.

I'm a bit wary of depending on fortified foods for B12; several months of supplements that were in swallowing pill (vs. dissolving under the tongue) form didn't help me at all and the fortified foods usually contain the same type of B12. Apparently it is not uncommon to have issues absorbing enough B12 as cyanocobalamin in the stomach but no one has really figured out why.

It was pretty concerning when I was getting tingling extremities last summer on top of the fatigue, inability to concentrate, and forgetfulness (which I thought was an iron problem). My work productivity took a huge hit that I'm only now really recovering from, and I probably shouldn't have been driving in hindsight. My B12 levels were technically within 'normal' for US levels (typically >200 pg/ml)  but just barely, and they were very low by European and Japanese standards (>500 pg/ml). Apparently it is common for people to experience deficiency symptoms in the 200-500 range.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: qarhon on June 19, 2013, 08:58:27 AM
Was me, I'd focus on the B complex. It's been many years since I took a nutrition class, but IIRC the B vitamins are crucial for the Krebs cycle, which is how you're converting food energy into body energy, and if that isn't operating at high efficiency now that you're changing energy soucres,  then you're likely to run down (and crave carbs -- IIRC sugar cravings, especially, may be a sign of B deficiencies, where the body thinks it's not getting enough food when actually it's just not converting enough).

I need to find a good comprehensive nutrition resource that is beyond the very basics... this is exactly the kind of stuff I'd like to learn more about. Thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 19, 2013, 11:04:01 AM
I'm a bit wary of depending on fortified foods for B12; several months of supplements that were in swallowing pill (vs. dissolving under the tongue) form didn't help me at all and the fortified foods usually contain the same type of B12. Apparently it is not uncommon to have issues absorbing enough B12 as cyanocobalamin in the stomach but no one has really figured out why.

Have you tried shots? This was what helped me. But, I think I'm deficient again. I need to get tested.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on June 21, 2013, 07:03:34 AM
 :cat: :purr:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 27, 2013, 12:45:35 PM
Can I please vent for a minute about the annoyances of not being able to maintain a steady weight?

So, apparently, the trick to losing  few lbs is for me to go buy a bunch of clothes. I've been hovering around 130-132, which is 8-10lbs heavier than I want to be. I figured that as my mileage increased the weight would just take care of itself. Well, this week I'm back down to 126. The jeans and all the running clothes I JUST BOUGHT a couple of weeks ago are too effing big.  >:( I know, I should be happy about this... it's just irritating to have everything constantly too small or too big and never just right.  :fiery:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on June 27, 2013, 01:08:55 PM
Well, one way to look at it is that at least you're at a size where 5 pounds makes a difference.  :buttpat: I have to go up or down 10-15 before my clothes fit noticeably differently. But I know what you mean; all my decent jeans keep sliding off my hips at the moment, and I don't really have time or ambition to go looking for more.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on June 27, 2013, 06:10:15 PM
I know, I should be happy about this... it's just irritating to have everything constantly too small or too big and never just right.  :fiery:

I feel your pain.  All the clothes I planned on wearing this summer are huge.  I wore a cute as a button wrap dress when I went out to eat last night and it barely worked.  I had to pin it.  Sh!t!   I LOVE that dress!  And breeches. :(  Hopefully my new pair is tightening back up in the dryer.

Then again, it's an excuse to go buy MORE stuff.  This caught my eye on an ebay used clothing shop.  Perfect for a summer potluck I think.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/LONDON-TIMES-SUMMER-DRESS-6-FLORAL-PATTERN-RUFFELED-FRONT-WRAP-STYLE-TOP-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/JtUAAMXQVfpRnPWV/$(KGrHqV,!rUFEuVIguCUBRnPWVf50w~~60_57.JPG (http://cute dress!)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Run Amok on June 27, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
OH, yeah, my breeches are all HUUUUUUUGE. All my beautiful full seats. Blech.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on June 27, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
I hear that. Good point about being at a size where 5-10 pounds make a difference. It really is like this weird window of fit vs. not fit and it's crazy.

Plus, I am PISSED that I can't find anything at Marshall's or TJ Maxx any more because of the size I am looking for. It's crazy. Nothing fits, until I buy something new, and then that doesn't fit either.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 28, 2013, 07:33:05 AM

Plus, I am PISSED that I can't find anything at Marshall's or TJ Maxx any more because of the size I am looking for. It's crazy. Nothing fits, until I buy something new, and then that doesn't fit either.

I am surprised: I shop there all the time and I think they have a huge range of sizes, plus petites and women.  But if I were in between sizes, I would consider buying a few used things.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on June 28, 2013, 07:46:15 AM
I always thought so, but I'm down to a size 2 and there is little or nothing to pick from. I hate to even say it, because I feel weird about being a size 2, but there you have it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on June 28, 2013, 09:38:12 AM
 :panic: size 2?

Even as a pre-schooler, I've never been a 2.

Damn you, little petit tiny itty bitty people. ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on June 28, 2013, 09:48:07 AM
 :-[

I feel very weird about it. I never have, either. Ever.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on June 28, 2013, 10:53:26 AM
:panic: size 2?

Even as a pre-schooler, I've never been a 2.

Damn you, little petit tiny itty bitty people. ;)

Don't forget there's been "size inflation" in the garment industry; as people get larger on average, the clothing makers have been making the sizes larger too -- a 2 today is bigger than a 2 in the 1980s, for instance.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 28, 2013, 11:42:07 AM
I always thought so, but I'm down to a size 2 and there is little or nothing to pick from. I hate to even say it, because I feel weird about being a size 2, but there you have it.

That is what I am...  no problem. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on June 28, 2013, 11:54:10 AM
That is what I am...  no problem.

It may also have to do with where you each live. Stores select their merchandise based on the population they're serving so an urban store might have a better selection of smaller sizes than a suburban or rural one. And a store in the northeast or Colorado might have more small sizes than one in the deep south. (Those are sweeping generalizations, but you see what I'm saying. I've definitely found that the same chain in a city center carries different styles than one in a more suburban/rural area.)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 28, 2013, 03:33:34 PM
Don't forget there's been "size inflation" in the garment industry; as people get larger on average, the clothing makers have been making the sizes larger too -- a 2 today is bigger than a 2 in the 1980s, for instance.

Yes.  I now buy size two, but I have stuff that I bought at the Gap 20+ years ago, and the label says 6 or 8, I forget which one exactly.  It fits perfectly well.  And I did maintain my weight.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: rocketgirl on June 28, 2013, 06:39:18 PM
I always thought so, but I'm down to a size 2 and there is little or nothing to pick from. I hate to even say it, because I feel weird about being a size 2, but there you have it.

Absolutely.  They rarely have anything smaller than 8 (except in dresses), hardly have skirts at all, and never have pants in long.  Ever.

I can't believe I'm a 2 when I weigh 10lbs more than last time I was a 2.  Hell, I have 6 s in my closet that are still too tight.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on June 28, 2013, 06:48:55 PM
Absolutely.  They rarely have anything smaller than 8 (except in dresses), hardly have skirts at all, and never have pants in long.  Ever.



Come shop in Massachusetts.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on June 29, 2013, 08:00:55 AM
Come shop in Massachusetts.

I should! I'm actually up in MA for the weekend. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on July 18, 2013, 06:46:45 AM
WTF? Nobody has been perpetually ranting since June 29th?
 :pissed:

I perpetually rant about my colon.
So, who else has something that is always a thorn in their fitness side?
 :sportscaster:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on July 18, 2013, 06:51:59 AM
WTF? Nobody has been perpetually ranting since June 29th?
 :pissed:

I perpetually rant about my colon.
So, who else has something that is always a thorn in their fitness side?
 :sportscaster:


well right now it's the heat wave... 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on July 18, 2013, 07:45:10 AM
Currently still raving, no rant.  I hit the bottom of weight loss and am now trying to eat more, which has always been difficult point for me.  I'll get over it. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: BobM59 on July 18, 2013, 10:47:16 AM
Currently still raving, no rant.  I hit the bottom of weight loss and am now trying to eat more, which has always been difficult point for me.  I'll get over it. 

Here, here.

I'm trying to find a way to eat at a level that lets me maintain my current weight or gain lean muscle as I lift more.  It's very difficult for me, since my normal body type is quite big.  I can usually put on muscle quickly, but I'm afraid to load up on protein like I feel like I should in fear of packing on lard.

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on July 18, 2013, 11:12:22 AM
I've hit a plateau: Four straight days at the same weight. Pondering how to shake myself out of it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: qarhon on July 18, 2013, 12:00:24 PM
Rave:

I finished my Whole 30 (no dairy, no grains, no added sugar, no legumes for 30 days) earlier this week. I wasn't super careful about additives, had a beer on the 4th, and occasionally had a glass of wine / fruit popsicle / dark chocolate, but otherwise stuck with it. I was interested in this both as an elimination diet and for maximizing micronutrient absorption after having several deficiencies during the past year and going through a bunch of tests which didn't find anything helpful.

I lost 5 pounds without trying, and was rarely hungry. I have way more energy after lunch instead of my usual afternoon slump + immediate snacking (usually cheese) when I get home. I didn't have too hard of a time adjusting at the start, but I think that was in part because I was careful to make sure I ate at least 100g carbs/day (sweet potatoes and bananas mostly) and avoided the effects of going too low carb. Spent a lot of time cooking and spent way more money on groceries than normal, but I also hardly ate out and ate a way healthier diet than I might have otherwise while living alone for a month. I've also been increasing my running distance during this past month from being able to handle ~3 miles nonstop to now doing 6+ miles -- I've never run this far before and have no clue if it's at all related, but I feel great.

One interesting side effect is that my tolerance for alcohol is super low now -- I easily feel the effects of 1 glass of wine -- curious if it's related to carb/fat/protein intake since I don't usually drink a lot anyway but can typically handle more than that! I haven't been great about adding things back in one at a time for the elimination diet aspect, but I think I'll probably mostly continue eating this way for awhile. I had a physical last week and am curious if I will see any changes in my vitamin/mineral labwork.

My n=1 experiment went well, and I'm pretty happy about it...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on July 18, 2013, 03:44:16 PM
qarhon, that's awesome!  Whoohoo for you!

 :rah: 

Please report back about the bloodwork, I'm curious about your experiment too. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on July 18, 2013, 08:01:22 PM
yes!  nice work!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on July 19, 2013, 06:47:49 AM
Great results! :) wow
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on July 19, 2013, 11:03:54 AM
I was down 5lbs when i returned from Death valley, but i think most of that was probably water weight, however, i ate very little while i was out there. Mostly because i was having stomach issues. I am not sure if it was from the heat, or because I had a runner who was much faster than myself and running harder than i am used to (even for short distances at a time) at that temperature, was probably the culprit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on July 23, 2013, 08:57:03 AM
I'm trying to bring things back into my diet to determine what sets off my allergies.

So far, I'm totally confused.  Popcorn is OK.  Gluten free products are NOT OK.  Still trying to decide if it's coincidence.  I've tried one bread and one soy free, dairy free flour mix.  I feel like crap within a half hour.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 23, 2013, 09:07:06 AM
Are there any common ingredients in the bread and the flour mix?

Still maintaining ok here...doing the usual summertime cookouts and stuff and indulging within reason. Part of me still wonders how long I can maintain this weight/size, but I think as long as I continue exercising regularly and eating reasonably, I'm ok.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on July 23, 2013, 09:16:47 AM
Off the top of my head- potato, rice, tapioca.

Not the usual suspects.  I also had trouble with quinoa.  ????
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on July 23, 2013, 09:58:21 AM
Interesting...and bummer about the quinoa. I love that stuff.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on July 23, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
I'm trying to bring things back into my diet to determine what sets off my allergies.

So far, I'm totally confused.  Popcorn is OK.  Gluten free products are NOT OK.  Still trying to decide if it's coincidence.  I've tried one bread and one soy free, dairy free flour mix.  I feel like crap within a half hour.

Can you explain what "feel like crap" means?
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Post by: CheryG on July 23, 2013, 01:16:13 PM
Can you explain what "feel like crap" means?

My allergies come back, full bore.  One of the surprising things to me about the whole diet was that my allergies went away.  Years of taking allergy meds every single day and then *poof* they were gone.

1/2 hour after eating, my nasal passages swell, the headache comes back and I'm exhausted.  Vaguely nauseous.  It will last at least 4 hours before settling down a bit and will be gone 24 hours later.
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Post by: onawhim on July 23, 2013, 01:25:46 PM
Were you doing the whole 30 thing Chery?  I am sure you have said. 
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Post by: CheryG on July 23, 2013, 01:30:30 PM
Were you doing the whole 30 thing Chery?  I am sure you have said. 

Pretty much.  Paleo in general.  No dairy, no legumes, no sugar, the only grain I ate was a small bowlful of oats in the morning.
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Post by: Magic Microbe on July 23, 2013, 01:55:00 PM
Have you tried potatoes alone, rice alone, ect.
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Post by: Ice Cream on July 23, 2013, 02:45:36 PM
My allergies come back, full bore.  One of the surprising things to me about the whole diet was that my allergies went away.  Years of taking allergy meds every single day and then *poof* they were gone.


Sounds to me like the allergy meds did not work for you.  Did you take them while on whole 30?
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Post by: CheryG on July 23, 2013, 03:12:06 PM
Sounds to me like the allergy meds did not work for you.  Did you take them while on whole 30?

No.  After relying them for years (we're talking over a decade that I'd be worse without them, and that worse was asthma/rescue inhaler) I did not need them once I was on the Paleo diet.
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Post by: merigayle on July 24, 2013, 05:33:50 AM
Interesting. I agree with MM, try each ingredient singularly and see if you have the reaction.
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Post by: CheryG on July 24, 2013, 06:20:56 AM
Have you tried potatoes alone, rice alone, ect.

Not yet.  Gotta let this bout simmer down first.  Yesterday I decided to make sure it wasn't a fluke thing so I had the GF free flour for lunch too.  Blerg.  BAD idea.

What if, eating potatoes and rice on their own, organic non-fortified cr@p, I don't get a reaction?  I happened to think of that, that the popcorn wasn't fortified or treated with anything.  It's just 100% corn I throw in the whirly pop.  The oats I eat in the morning that are fine are 100% oats. 

I've always thought that GF seemed overly processed, is there something they do to that stuff that would trigger?  It's not like I'm totally eating organic as I'll occasionally eat liverwurst that is chock full of preservatives, but otherwise I'm not eating much at all in that department.
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Post by: wherestheportojohn on July 24, 2013, 07:37:51 AM
Mmmm,liverwurst...gross but delicious.


GF food labels are worth reading, just like any food in a bag or box.
All kinds of processing going on.

With my little experiment, I've noticed a return of some gi issues with some GF crackers, cereals. Processing, baby.
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Post by: onawhim on July 24, 2013, 08:26:19 AM
I find the GF foods pretty hard on the digestion since they all have a million flours and sugars and gums and stuff.  I just don't eat any of that stuff. 
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Post by: merigayle on July 24, 2013, 08:36:47 AM
You can make your own flours, even just using a magic bullet or blender. I have made rice flours and oat flours in my blender with the grinding blade.
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Post by: Ice Cream on July 24, 2013, 01:09:01 PM
You can make your own flours, even just using a magic bullet or blender. I have made rice flours and oat flours in my blender with the grinding blade.

or buy wholesale at whole food or any health store.
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Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2013, 12:22:45 PM
so i know a few people here went gluten free. I did for a short while earlier in the year, but probably for only a week or two. I have been having some odd health issues over the years and all my blood work usually comes back ok. The only thing last year that showed up was zinc was low, but then i had an allergic reaction to the supplement. Otherwise, everything else was fine.

http://glutenfreenetwork.com/symptoms-treatments/gluten-intolerance-symptoms-how-do-you-know-if-gluten-is-making-you-sick/ (http://glutenfreenetwork.com/symptoms-treatments/gluten-intolerance-symptoms-how-do-you-know-if-gluten-is-making-you-sick/)

so i have been looking at what are the more unusual signs of gluten intolerance and what do you know, most of my random health things fall under here.

Here is the list from the above link


    Weight loss or weight gain
    Nutritional deficiencies due to malabsorption e.g. low iron levels
    Gastro-intestinal problems (bloating, pain, gas, constipation, diarrhea)
    Fat in the stools (due to poor digestion)
    Aching joints
    Depression
    Eczema
    Head aches
    Exhaustion
    Irritability and behavioural changes
    Infertility, irregular menstrual cycle and miscarriage
    Cramps, tingling and numbness
    Slow infant and child growth
    Decline in dental health

dental issues were not on MY list, but it was there and i have nothing but issues with my teeth and i take SUCH good care and eat SOOOO well. My big symptoms are inability to lose weight, fatigue, funky menstrual issues, IBS (alternating kind), muslce aches and pains, dizziness

So i think everything but dizziness was on there, but i think that is low blood pressure, which has always been an issue of mine. I am trying to increase my caffeine a little as well as my salt. That was the only things i could find on line to help. I don't want to have too much caffeine because then it will make my sleep worse!
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Post by: radial on August 05, 2013, 12:56:19 PM
With that set of symptoms, it really does seem like you are allergic to something.  Might be gluten, might be soy, might be something else.  If I were you, I would do an elimination diet or two just to see if I could identify the the problem food(s). 
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Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2013, 02:14:08 PM
Gluten i do not eat a lot of but i know a little can make a difference. Soy is harder, i put edamames in my lunch every day! Lol. But will think of that next week to add. I have never had tummy issues but lately i have, many months now.
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Post by: wherestheportojohn on August 05, 2013, 06:53:12 PM
{{Meri}}
I don't wish tummy issues on anyone. :(
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Post by: CheryG on August 05, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
I gave up trying to figure it out.  It seems like any grains more than one serving of oats a day puts me over the edge.  Even the popcorn became troublesome.  I tried.  Maybe I'll try again later.
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Post by: merigayle on August 05, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
Gluten free oats?
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Post by: radial on August 05, 2013, 08:32:35 PM
Gluten free oats?

Definitely okay in my case. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on August 05, 2013, 08:34:56 PM
Gluten i do not eat a lot of but i know a little can make a difference. Soy is harder, i put edamames in my lunch every day! Lol. But will think of that next week to add. I have never had tummy issues but lately i have, many months now.

Soy is a big one. It causes all those issues and more for me.
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Post by: BobM59 on August 05, 2013, 08:53:21 PM
I have gone off the deep end with Olive Oil cooking the last few months.  If that stuff turns out to actually be bad for you, I'll be dead in minutes.  Stick a fork in me, and expect it to come out smooth, olive-y, and really good at sauteeing mushrooms.
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Post by: CheryG on August 06, 2013, 06:18:16 AM
Gluten free oats?
Sometimes.  Quaker is OK too, but that might be gluten free and simply not labeled as such.  I'd imagine they process a lot of oats and would have specific machines to do so.  Nothing else gluten free works and maybe the oats wouldn't if I ate more than one serving a day.  Haven't tried, ain't gonna.  Spent last week feeling like cr@p messing around with it.  24- 48 hours of taking the grains away again, eating plenty of protein, fats, fruits, and leafy greens the energy and overall feeling of well being come back soaring.  (still not eating dairy or legumes)

I had wanted to add in the grains because I wanted to stop losing weight and had started running again.  Plus I wanted to see how I'd feel.  Bad idea!  Started dropping weight again the moment I took the grains away, so I'm trying to make sure I eat enough, just by eating more of what is already on the menu.  Trying to remember to put a T of coconut oil on my oatmeal, etc.

Ha!  To Bob and the olive oil!  Pour it on baby!
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Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2013, 06:42:36 AM
Well, oats are gluten free, but generally are cross contaminated, so if you are avoiding gluten, buying ones labeled gluten free ensure there is no cross contamination from the processing procedure.

I have a whole laundry list of health complaints and from googling, soy is more of the digestive kinds, unless it is an allergic reaction like hives/itching. I will see if after a few weeks of no gluten how i feel and then decide about soy. I do not eat a ton of soy, but it is often part of my diet several times a week and soy sauce is a staple in my house :( I did buy tamari.
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Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2013, 09:36:48 AM
i made gluten free, low fat, vegan zucchini bread this morning and it was not terrible :D LOL!!!! I am going to make banana bread to take to my race this weekend.
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Post by: CheryG on August 06, 2013, 10:01:22 AM
This was quite good the second day, toasted, with honey it jam.  Calorie dense!  Gluten free.
http://www.elanaspantry.com/paleo-bread/ (http://www.elanaspantry.com/paleo-bread/)
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Post by: merigayle on August 06, 2013, 12:22:44 PM
very NOT vegan though, LOL!

I had another bite of the zucchini bread and it is quite tasty! Must not eat it all :D
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Post by: onawhim on August 06, 2013, 12:39:10 PM
This was quite good the second day, toasted, with honey it jam.  Calorie dense!  Gluten free.
http://www.elanaspantry.com/paleo-bread/ (http://www.elanaspantry.com/paleo-bread/)

My spouse started doing the whole 30 thing so I did that with him as moral support and I dropped weight like crazy.  I find it hard to eat enough on that diet. 
I know I do feel better gluten and soy free.  I think oats and rice are ok but I am not really eating those now.  I am allergic to almonds so most paleo baking is out for me. 
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Post by: CheryG on August 06, 2013, 09:04:01 PM
I am allergic to almonds so most paleo baking is out for me. 

I actually eat very little of the paleo baking.  I made that bread as a trial to see how it would fit in, and it was like crack.  I have my odd little pancake recipe on Sunday mornings but that's it.  It just seems to work well for me to have guidelines and "no flour or flour like products" seems to help keep me out of trouble.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on August 06, 2013, 09:10:45 PM
What is your pancake recipe?
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Post by: radial on August 06, 2013, 09:12:16 PM
I actually eat very little of the paleo baking.  I made that bread as a trial to see how it would fit in, and it was like crack.  I have my odd little pancake recipe on Sunday mornings but that's it.  It just seems to work well for me to have guidelines and "no flour or flour like products" seems to help keep me out of trouble.

You've really got things under contol :bow2:.  But if you keep talking about how your problem is being too skinny, things are going to get ugly.  Trust me.  :)
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Post by: CheryG on August 06, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
What is your pancake recipe?

http://terragarcia.blogspot.com/2013/03/pancake-14c-coconut-flour-14c-oat-bran.html (http://terragarcia.blogspot.com/2013/03/pancake-14c-coconut-flour-14c-oat-bran.html)

OK radial, I'll shut it! :)
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Post by: teetime on August 07, 2013, 09:25:21 AM

I had wanted to add in the grains because I wanted to stop losing weight and had started running again.  Plus I wanted to see how I'd feel.  Bad idea!  Started dropping weight again the moment I took the grains away, so I'm trying to make sure I eat enough, just by eating more of what is already on the menu.  Trying to remember to put a T of coconut oil on my oatmeal, etc.


How about yams and potatoes, are those okay (I don't really understand the paleo/whole 30 rules). Are nuts and nut butters out? Otherwise, they are good runners food and make maintaining weight sadly easy.
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Post by: CheryG on August 07, 2013, 01:26:20 PM
Oh, I totally eat yams and nuts.  No nut butters.  I'm not exactly sure what onawhim meant, but the diet is a very filling and appetite curbing one for me.
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Post by: onawhim on August 07, 2013, 02:07:04 PM
Oh, I totally eat yams and nuts.  No nut butters.  I'm not exactly sure what onawhim meant, but the diet is a very filling and appetite curbing one for me.

Yes.  I just mean I am not hungry on this diet so I do not feel like eating more.    Probably why it works so well  :D  I make pancakes with eggs and bananas for long run/race mornings.  I eat sweet potatoes as well. 
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Post by: merigayle on August 09, 2013, 05:34:56 PM
So I had an idea of a diagnosis for me and one of my colleagues and the RD that works with me all came up with the same diagnosis when i gave them just a list of symptoms. Hashimotos. Supposedly it does not always show up on blood work, and one of the first things to do is eliminate gluten. In 5 days I have not had any tummy issues, though my period is due end of next week and things seem to be worse with my period thru to ovulation, but not always. Also, my hands are not stiff in the morning. I was unable to really close them first thing in the morning. So interested to see how things continue and if it is a fluke or a trend in the right direction. The RD says it can take 6 months to get the gluten out of your system. I eat so little gluten compared to a standard american diet, but enough that i do eat some. It has atleast kept me from finishing DD's food :D
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Post by: Ergonomic Mouse on August 10, 2013, 11:15:54 AM
No.  After relying them for years (we're talking over a decade that I'd be worse without them, and that worse was asthma/rescue inhaler) I did not need them once I was on the Paleo diet.
Same here.  I have horrible allergies, and allergy induced asthma.  Been taking Zyrtec and singulair for over 10 years...and also have a slew of nasal spray and inhalers. Every year I would get at least major exacerbation of symptoms and have to take pred. Sucky!!  I also have suffered from ibd-constipation for at least 6 years. I have to drink citrucel every day, and sometimes miralax. MIserable bloating and just feeling bad.

So at the first of the year I read Primal Blueprint, and was very interested. I have been off all of the meds since March. I just don't need them. I no longer stuff from the ibd-c, no bloating and I feel pretty damn good.

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Post by: Ice Cream on August 10, 2013, 06:05:11 PM
So I had an idea of a diagnosis for me and one of my colleagues and the RD that works with me all came up with the same diagnosis when i gave them just a list of symptoms. Hashimotos. Supposedly it does not always show up on blood work, and one of the first things to do is eliminate gluten. In 5 days I have not had any tummy issues, though my period is due end of next week and things seem to be worse with my period thru to ovulation, but not always. Also, my hands are not stiff in the morning. I was unable to really close them first thing in the morning. So interested to see how things continue and if it is a fluke or a trend in the right direction. The RD says it can take 6 months to get the gluten out of your system. I eat so little gluten compared to a standard american diet, but enough that i do eat some. It has atleast kept me from finishing DD's food :D

RD = race director????
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Post by: merigayle on August 10, 2013, 08:00:25 PM
Registered dietician
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Post by: Mom of Scooby on August 10, 2013, 08:48:58 PM
So I had an idea of a diagnosis for me and one of my colleagues and the RD that works with me all came up with the same diagnosis when i gave them just a list of symptoms. Hashimotos. Supposedly it does not always show up on blood work, and one of the first things to do is eliminate gluten. In 5 days I have not had any tummy issues, though my period is due end of next week and things seem to be worse with my period thru to ovulation, but not always. Also, my hands are not stiff in the morning. I was unable to really close them first thing in the morning. So interested to see how things continue and if it is a fluke or a trend in the right direction. The RD says it can take 6 months to get the gluten out of your system. I eat so little gluten compared to a standard american diet, but enough that i do eat some. It has atleast kept me from finishing DD's food :D

Cecy has felt so much better since she stopped eating gluten.
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Post by: merigayle on August 11, 2013, 05:47:20 AM
Cecy has felt so much better since she stopped eating gluten.
I will say in 1 week, I have seen a huge improvement in my tummy. Hands are significantly less stiff as well.  :fingers: this is part of the solution.
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Post by: diablita on August 11, 2013, 07:46:40 AM
 :fingers: meri
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Post by: merigayle on August 11, 2013, 07:06:02 PM
:fingers: meri
thanks :) saw my BFF today at the race and she is super smart biologist (microbiologist) and i rattled off a list of my symptoms and she said Hashimotos too.
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Post by: merigayle on August 27, 2013, 04:30:59 PM
So it has been about one month. A lot of symptoms have improved, much to my surprise this quickly. I am less "tin man" like in the morning, though still having some joint discomfort, it is definitely better. Some of my skin stuff has cleared up, and this is really recent, like past few days, my stomach issues are 80% better and during my period when they are at their worst, they were markedly better, very much so. So I am going to keep continuing on this path. I keep meaning to call an endocrinologist, but seriously, my free time is so limited, i am hoping dietary changes are what i need for now.
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Post by: diablita on August 27, 2013, 06:56:49 PM
that's great news, meri!  I hope the improvement continues!
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Post by: merigayle on August 27, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
Me too.
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Post by: wherestheportojohn on August 28, 2013, 07:03:19 AM
Meri,
Yay to those improvements!

:)
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Post by: triciaflower on September 20, 2013, 05:40:28 PM
I was beginning to think this thread went away forever!

I am now 18days into my Whole30. And I FEEL AMAZING!!!!  I've lost 10 lbs and my blood pressure firmly in the "normal" range.

My only problem is I am getting bored. I bought two new cookbooks, "Well Fed", and "Against the Grain." I'm hoping to avoid what caused my downfall last time. Which was BOREDOM with the food!! I know there are a million things to eat. But what?!

Any advice from the veterans?
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Post by: CheryG on September 20, 2013, 06:48:45 PM
congrats tricia!

when I get bored I click on Pinterest and do a search for Paleo.  TONS of ideas pop up and I waste a lot of time drooling over recipes.  Some aren't 100% Whole30 compliant, but many are.

Here's my recipe board...
http://www.pinterest.com/gelindeful/fude/ (http://www.pinterest.com/gelindeful/fude/)
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Post by: merigayle on September 20, 2013, 07:13:51 PM
Wtg Tricia!
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Post by: diablita on September 20, 2013, 10:01:34 PM
that's great!
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Post by: triciaflower on September 21, 2013, 12:08:45 AM
Pinterest!! YES!! Thanks! I also came across this:

http://www.paleofood.com/ (http://www.paleofood.com/)

Not pretty, but there seems to be a lot of ideas.
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Post by: CheryG on September 21, 2013, 07:27:50 PM
I like that it's not fancy!  Good one!
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Post by: RioG on September 21, 2013, 07:45:28 PM
I think I'm working my way up to a whole 30 attempt.  I just need to wrap my head around black coffee. :(
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Post by: CheryG on September 22, 2013, 12:40:37 AM
Try it cold?  I don't know why but of coffee is hot I prefer it with stuff in it.  Cold I prefer it black.  The DH makes a pot in the morning and turns the coffee maker off so by the time I get up it's perfect.
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Post by: GreenMan on September 22, 2013, 01:06:01 AM
I have iced cold-brew coffee every day. Cold-brewing makes it taste SOOO much better.
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Post by: CheryG on September 22, 2013, 07:29:55 AM
And Rio, for sure I'll cheerlead here but over at the UDBB there's a pack of rabid Paleo/Whole30 folk that would be thrilled to help.  JamiD, Nianine, etc.  I think horse people are more open to trying it because we're so fussy about how we feed our critters.  The Whole30 seems totally normal and/or even less obsessive by comparison.
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Post by: onawhim on September 22, 2013, 09:31:26 AM
You can add coconut milk.  That is what I do.  Or almond milk. 
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Post by: Courtney on September 22, 2013, 12:03:09 PM
Can you make it a mocha somehow?

My morning caffeine is what stops me from trying something like this.  Terrible, but true!!
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Post by: CheryG on September 22, 2013, 07:09:50 PM
Well, if that's all that is stopping you, use chocolate coconut milk!
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Post by: Courtney on September 22, 2013, 09:23:18 PM
Well, if that's all that is stopping you, use chocolate coconut milk!

I hate coconut milk.  :D. I tried to like it, but it tastes....  Coconutty! 

I'm reading a lot on this.  I think it's the route I should go. 
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Post by: CheryG on September 22, 2013, 09:59:27 PM
Almond milk maybe?  :d

Doooo it.  If you don't like it you can always stop.  Even then, it's only 30 days.

I am insanely glad I tried it!

Maybe Tricia should tell more about how amazing she feels!
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Post by: triciaflower on September 22, 2013, 11:12:59 PM
I am so glad I gave it another go.

When I did it in May, I wasn't completely 100% on board. And as a result, I ran out of ideas and just got so bored with food. I LOVE to cook. I LOVE to eat. This time around, I got so sick of feeling sick. Feeling cloudy. Tired. Irritable. Fat. So I went all in. I researched recipes. I shopped the night before and cooked the night before so I would have food for the next couple of days.

I find that if I cook ahead a bit, I am more likely to have no problems. I also try to have some sort of quickie thing ready in the fridge. Soup. Grilled chicken. Tuna salad (I found a compliant mayo.)

I FEEL SOOOO GOOOOD. I have no bloating issues. I feel it mostly in my gut. My clothes are fitting better. And I've lost pounds.

I will say this. If you eat out at restaurants for most of your meals now, you are doomed.
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Post by: merigayle on September 23, 2013, 06:57:38 AM
i drink black tea
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Post by: Courtney on September 23, 2013, 09:46:53 PM
I am so glad I gave it another go.

When I did it in May, I wasn't completely 100% on board. And as a result, I ran out of ideas and just got so bored with food. I LOVE to cook. I LOVE to eat. This time around, I got so sick of feeling sick. Feeling cloudy. Tired. Irritable. Fat. So I went all in. I researched recipes. I shopped the night before and cooked the night before so I would have food for the next couple of days.

I find that if I cook ahead a bit, I am more likely to have no problems. I also try to have some sort of quickie thing ready in the fridge. Soup. Grilled chicken. Tuna salad (I found a compliant mayo.)

I FEEL SOOOO GOOOOD. I have no bloating issues. I feel it mostly in my gut. My clothes are fitting better. And I've lost pounds.

I will say this. If you eat out at restaurants for most of your meals now, you are doomed.

We eat out a lot right now, for a whole host of reasons.  The big one is that I'm being lazy. 

Thank you for sharing that, Tricia.  I feel like we've had some of the same issues over the years, so I really am thrilled for you, and I find it incredibly hopeful and inspiring.  I need to get my DH on board.  I can't do it without that, I'm sure.  I'm also very easily swayed, apparently, which is just a side effect of not being invested and wanting to really make a change.  I feel like I've constantly got something "special" going on, and I tend to fail pretty hard then.  For example.  Thursday I have wine & painting night with friends, then the weekend after this coming one, I have a trip home to my family's house where my mom will make amazing food, and then the weekend after that, we have company in the form of DH's cousin & wife, and we will be literally hanging out at a beer festival (although, I don't drink beer due to gluten) and eating bar food as a result.  I just feel like it sucks so bad to not be a part of things, which is totally my issue, but knowing that doesn't make it suck less to me.  I want to be able to be normal, and eat food in moderation and not have special circumstances be a huge deal.

Yet, I also want to feel better.  Even after giving up gluten, I still have plenty of GI issues.  They are far better, mind you, which has made it entirely easy to stay way from it. 

A lot of this is in my head (not the feeling better issue) and I know it's stuff I have to work on.  I'm not, and have never been, good at being black and white at stuff.  So going whole hog into a plan is always tough for me.  When I get a handle on moderation, I do ok, but that doesn't fix the GI issues, for sure. 

Did y'all want a novel on the inner workings of my mind?  :D 

And tea is gross.  :D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on September 23, 2013, 11:10:39 PM
I went to a catered party this weekend and did not get rice, beans, or tortillas. I chose a pile of grilled meat, and lots of fruits and veggies. No one looked at me funny. No one cared that I was not eating tacos. I never once felt like I wasn't part of the fun.

DH isn't with me 100%. But I do most of the cooking, so he eats what I eat. I may make him some rice, but other than that he is on this by default. Except the time we were on our own for dinner and I came home to see he had made nachos. NACHOS!! :bat: I love nachos.  >:(

I am the sugar addict who got used to drinking a coke a day, and dessert with every meal. Now I don't miss those things at all. I do miss pizza. And burgers and fries. But now I know that I CAN say no to these things. It's possible!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Courtney on September 23, 2013, 11:29:32 PM
I'm so thrilled for you, Tricia  :)

Seriously, and I read with a lot of hope. 

And to be honest, I already feel like I miss a lot of foods (sandwiches, good pizza, rolls, etc) and I'm still kind of fucking pissed off about it, apparently.  :D  It's a mental thing, to be sure. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on September 23, 2013, 11:42:56 PM
Oh god I love sandwiches.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on September 30, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
Tonight I asked the DH if he feels any differently since I've changed what I(we) eat.  He's not totally Paleo, but by proxy he eats that way frequently.  I've noticed that he's been happier in general with more energy, he says he feels better and he's lost 15#. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: radial on September 30, 2013, 09:09:30 PM
Tonight I asked the DH if he feels any differently since I've changed what I(we) eat.  He's not totally Paleo, but by proxy he eats that way frequently.  I've noticed that he's been happier in general with more energy, he says he feels better and he's lost 15#.

Holy shiatsu!  He should be kissing your feet.  :bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on October 03, 2013, 03:03:58 PM
My Whole30 is officially DONE!!

I am down 14 pounds.

I had cheesecake today. IT. WAS. AWESOME. It was also super sweet. Like almost too sweet. The old me would have had another piece.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on October 03, 2013, 06:48:38 PM
Whoohoo Tricia!!!!  Congrats!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on October 03, 2013, 07:56:35 PM
My Whole30 is officially DONE!!

I am down 14 pounds.

I had cheesecake today. IT. WAS. AWESOME. It was also super sweet. Like almost too sweet. The old me would have had another piece.
:bow2:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on October 03, 2013, 08:40:36 PM
 :preen: Yay to Tricia, CheryG, and Mr. CheryG!!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on October 04, 2013, 07:28:33 AM
:bow2:

My Whole30 is officially DONE!!

I am down 14 pounds.

I had cheesecake today. IT. WAS. AWESOME. It was also super sweet. Like almost too sweet. The old me would have had another piece.

Wow!  Is that 14 pounds in 30 days????  Congratulations
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on October 04, 2013, 05:49:32 PM
Yep. I think a lot was water bloat. I don't anticipate my weight to drop that radically in the coming weeks. In fact, it's kind of stayed at that amt for the last week.

I am going to try to keep it up for most of my meals. But realistically, I know I won't be able to do it 100%. It was tough, especially when I failed to plan anything. Or had to eat out and resort to ordering a la carte sides of steamed things.  :nono:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on October 08, 2013, 11:21:18 PM
We have to stop the low-carb plans because Pat Robertson says they are EVIL (http://gawker.com/pat-robertson-thinks-low-carb-diets-violate-god-s-princ-1442796162)!

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“Everybody thought Atkins was wonderful and they’ve got all these scientific tests, but ... The carbs are the fire that burn everything completely.”

"Sooner or later, it violates the principles that God set down.”

 :panic:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on October 09, 2013, 03:31:55 PM


 :panic:
:roll:

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on October 16, 2013, 05:19:30 PM
Now this: High-carb diets may be implicated in Alzheimer's Disease (http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/bittman-is-alzheimers-type-3-diabetes/?_r=0).  :yikes:

That looks legit, in fact. The studies mentioned have appeared in mainstream, peer-reviewed science journals. Looks like keto will be a regular part of my life henceforth.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: radial on October 16, 2013, 10:45:00 PM
Now this: High-carb diets may be implicated in Alzheimer's Disease (http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/bittman-is-alzheimers-type-3-diabetes/?_r=0).  :yikes:

That looks legit, in fact. The studies mentioned have appeared in mainstream, peer-reviewed science journals. Looks like keto will be a regular part of my life henceforth.

Welcome to the dark side :).
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on October 16, 2013, 10:50:38 PM
Welcome to the dark side :).

(http://media.tumblr.com/85d343d2254804e917db97b10cce6e36/tumblr_inline_mtlac0leBn1r79k32.gif)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on October 23, 2013, 09:07:43 PM
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/sweden-becomes-first-western-nation-to-reject-low-fat-diet-dogma-in-favor-of-low-carb-high-fat-nutrition/ (http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/sweden-becomes-first-western-nation-to-reject-low-fat-diet-dogma-in-favor-of-low-carb-high-fat-nutrition/)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on October 23, 2013, 10:07:17 PM
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/sweden-becomes-first-western-nation-to-reject-low-fat-diet-dogma-in-favor-of-low-carb-high-fat-nutrition/ (http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/sweden-becomes-first-western-nation-to-reject-low-fat-diet-dogma-in-favor-of-low-carb-high-fat-nutrition/)

 :yikes:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on October 23, 2013, 10:54:50 PM
I think that article is probably misleading. The news story linked at the bottom (http://www.thelocal.se/50384/20130923/ (http://www.thelocal.se/50384/20130923/)) appears to give a slightly less biased view of the report.
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The report by the SBU recommends that eliminating carb-rich food such as bread and potatoes will speed up weight loss quicker than a conventional low-fat diet. However, in the long-term there is little difference between how effective various diet plans are says the report.
I think those findings are pretty much in line with many studies I've seen before (i.e. a lot of diets are effective, at least in the short term, and being at a healthy weight may be more important than how you get there). The SBU's full report doesn't appear to be available on their website yet, but their Diet and Obesity project should be published this fall (http://www.sbu.se/en/Ongoing-projects/ (http://www.sbu.se/en/Ongoing-projects/)). Unfortunately, their reports are in Swedish with abstracts translated into English.

However, this is a report by an independent committee and does not reflect the national policy of Sweden. (The SBU appears to be similar to the US's Institute of Medicine.)
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The SBU is an independent national authority tasked by the government with assessing health care interventions and providing advice on which sort of treatments are most effective. The authority's findings are also meant to be impartial and scientifically reliable and serve as a basis for decision-making by policymakers, healthcare providers, and patients.
Sweden's National Food Agency does say that the Nordic Nutrition Recommendations have recently been revised (http://www.slv.se/en-gb/Group1/Food-and-Nutrition/ (http://www.slv.se/en-gb/Group1/Food-and-Nutrition/)) and links to the new NNR, which can be downloaded here: http://www.norden.org/en/publications/publikationer/nord-2013-009 (http://www.norden.org/en/publications/publikationer/nord-2013-009) Based on my (admittedly very cursory) reading of them, they do not appear to be promoting a low carb, high fat diet.

Sweden's national dietary guidelines (available in English on the NFA website) were last revised in 2005 and were based on the 2004 NNR so one might expect the next revision to also reflect these new NNR. (Here's a blurb about a study released last year about mortality rates among people who closely followed the guidelines: http://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/o.o.i.s?id=24890&news_item=5881. (http://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/o.o.i.s?id=24890&news_item=5881.)) It is, of course, possible that the next revision will also take into account the new report by the SBU, but my guess is they won't do a complete 180 as suggested by Chery's article. Will be interesting to see...
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: GreenMan on October 23, 2013, 11:04:57 PM
Thanks, Clementine, for the research. The original link raised a few flags, but I didn't have time to fact-check it. Glad you did.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Clementine on October 23, 2013, 11:08:27 PM
Thanks, Clementine, for the research. The original link raised a few flags, but I didn't have time to fact-check it. Glad you did.  :)

No problem. I have a very hard time trusting any website with the tagline "News that Impacts Your Health that Other Media Sources May Censor!", whether it aligns with my personal beliefs or not.  ;)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on October 24, 2013, 07:12:44 AM
Can I also point out the different interpretations/meanings of the word diet? Sometimes, it means "weight-reduction plan", but it can also mean "daily food intake".  The article, mentioned here, concentrates on weight loss.


"The report by the SBU recommends that eliminating carb-rich food such as bread and potatoes will speed up weight loss quicker than a conventional low-fat diet. However, in the long-term there is little difference between how effective various diet plans are says the report."

I suspect they are interested in telling people where they will see rapid loss, which may be encouraging in the early stages.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on October 24, 2013, 07:43:36 AM
Yeah, I didn't bother to fact check past the linked articles on the bottom, I was all distracted by a cool webinar I watched yesterday.

Props to my brother's fiance, she just posted on FB that she's lost 120#!  She's one of those "I now weigh less than I did in HS" people.
http://instagram.com/p/f0fYNciZQ5/# (http://instagram.com/p/f0fYNciZQ5/#)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on October 24, 2013, 11:28:37 AM
Yeah, I didn't bother to fact check past the linked articles on the bottom, I was all distracted by a cool webinar I watched yesterday.

Props to my brother's fiance, she just posted on FB that she's lost 120#!  She's one of those "I now weigh less than I did in HS" people.
http://instagram.com/p/f0fYNciZQ5/# (http://instagram.com/p/f0fYNciZQ5/#)

Fantastic!  My husband has lost 58 lbs so far doing low carb paleo :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on October 24, 2013, 06:04:29 PM
Fantastic!  My husband has lost 58 lbs so far doing low carb paleo :)

Whoohoo! 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 04, 2013, 02:13:05 PM
I've been snacking out of control and have put on at least 20 pounds this year.  So back to no sugar, no wheat.  Today is the first day of the rest of my life.   

I have 13 weeks til we go to Negril.  If I can lose a pound a week in that time, I'll be more secure on the beach.  Incentive!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 04, 2013, 08:10:31 PM
I've been snacking out of control and have put on at least 20 pounds this year.  So back to no sugar, no wheat.  Today is the first day of the rest of my life.   

I have 13 weeks til we go to Negril.  If I can lose a pound a week in that time, I'll be more secure on the beach.  Incentive!
You know you can do it!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 05, 2013, 09:22:46 AM
You know you can do it!

Day 1 was successful!  Now, on to Day 2.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 05, 2013, 12:29:36 PM
Day 1 was successful!  Now, on to Day 2.
thatta girl!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on November 05, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
:rockon: mini!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on November 05, 2013, 08:50:37 PM
Go Mini, go Mini!!!! :lambie:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 06, 2013, 08:45:54 AM
Day 2 successful, on to Day 3.

Thanks for the encouragement, everyone.  I keep thinking "Jamaica, Jamaica."
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on November 06, 2013, 08:46:36 AM
You can do this.  It gets easier after the first week for sure  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 07, 2013, 09:06:35 AM
Day 3 down, almost ready to stop counting days.  Going out to dinner tonight.   :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 07, 2013, 12:40:32 PM
Day 3 down, almost ready to stop counting days.  Going out to dinner tonight.   :D
good job
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 12, 2013, 09:12:56 AM
Staying constant, ate out twice, binged on plantain chips once, but otherwise doing well.  My skirt zipped this morning, though it's not as loose as I'd like it to be.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 12, 2013, 11:58:28 AM
Staying constant, ate out twice, binged on plantain chips once, but otherwise doing well.  My skirt zipped this morning, though it's not as loose as I'd like it to be.
small steps!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on November 13, 2013, 08:41:32 AM
One step back: Went out to dinner last night and had fried fish.  Delish, but not on plan.  Now that the kitchen's coming together, won't need to eat out as much. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 13, 2013, 10:09:30 AM
today is a new day :) what will be the first meal you cook in your brand new kitchen? must be EPIC!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on November 19, 2013, 07:10:13 AM
What happened to Minidriver? She was posting diligently about the new diet.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on November 19, 2013, 08:23:47 PM
So I'm participating in a fitness challenge on FB, my friend posts workouts and we get points for posting photographic evidence of our workouts and also our food diaries from myfitnesspal or the like.  We also get bonus points for inspirational posts.  OMG, I just can't with some of the food diaries these girls are posting.  Yesterday one of them did 1300 calories of exercise, and ate 1400 calories.  MFP gives you a calorie goal based on how quickly you want to lose weight (or not) and then if you burn calories through exercise you get a bigger calorie budget.  Based on the calorie goals that these girls are posting, they have it set to move 1 lb per week.  Then they have a 500-1000 calorie deficit on top of that.  That is so not healthy!  A 1700 calorie deficit is not good for you!  The workouts are great, but I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to continue with this group due to the food journals and some of the thinspo that is being passed off as inspirational posts.  Gah!
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: ihop on November 20, 2013, 10:06:12 AM
nadra - a group of friends and I did a workout challenge for one month.  It was fun - encouraging and got some new ideas.  The second month they added a clean eating challenge (organic, no processed foods, etc).  I lasted a week before I removed myself.  It became a competition about what people were eating (or not).  It was awful.  And if you weren't eating paleo and/or adding protein powder to meals, then everyone assumed you weren't eating healthfully.  Ugh.  And I still don't understand how protein powder is clean - it is a processed food!  But half of the women had the same trainer who also thinks she is a RD - one of my pet peeves.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: onawhim on November 20, 2013, 10:20:21 AM
Well I think most people way underestimate their calories eaten and way overestimate calories burned.  I mean it is hard to burn 1300 cals.  I would have to run 19 miles or something for that.   I doubt most people are doing that every day.   And not when they eat nothing.  I see that stuff on MFP all the time.  "I burned 50000000 cals and only ate 500 and gained weight!!!!"  I am sure there are some people who are being extreme but most people are probably not being honest or not counting properly.  If they are it won't last long. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on November 20, 2013, 10:49:02 AM
I was in a running group when i first started running and all the woman had eating disorders or disordered eating and i had to quit and find a new one.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on November 20, 2013, 02:09:26 PM
Nadra,
Dump the competition, if you can get out gracefully.
Ditto on what Meri, IHOP, an doña whim have said.
So sad for those women, as they will likely become ill, injured, and possibly set themselves up for longterm unhealthy habits.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on November 20, 2013, 10:09:49 PM
But hey, at least they'll be hot date prospects.
http://www.returnofkings.com/21313/5-reasons-to-date-a-girl-with-an-eating-disorder (http://www.returnofkings.com/21313/5-reasons-to-date-a-girl-with-an-eating-disorder)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: nadra24 on November 20, 2013, 10:34:54 PM
Nadra,
Dump the competition, if you can get out gracefully.
Ditto on what Meri, IHOP, an doña whim have said.
So sad for those women, as they will likely become ill, injured, and possibly set themselves up for longterm unhealthy habits.

Today's numbers look better, from what I'm seeing.  Not so scary low, most everyone is eating at least 1200-1300 calories now.  I wonder if the really low numbers the first two days were more a result of people being gung-ho and really watching what they ate, and some people mentioned that they had had a last weekend of indulgence before the challenge started.  I know that I ate way too much on Sunday night, and wasn't very hungry for much except fruits and veggies on Monday.  There are still some fairly big deficits, but not enough to really screw up metabolisms.  I think it helped that the group leader posted hers, and said her appetite has been low and she needed a second dinner and she had one.  She also told someone else who had really low numbers that they needed a second dinner too!  I chatted with her a little bit off the group board, and expressed my concerns.  She was pretty receptive to it, and said she'd love it if I posted my professional opinions on the board.  One thing that is kind of tricky is that she had gastric bypass surgery about 5 years ago, and she's pretty dialed into what works for her nutritionally.  That is fine, obviously she's going to need to eat smaller meals than most people.  I just hope that people don't look to her food journals as examples of what they should be eating. 

I think I'll continue to see how it goes for a while, and just ignore the screen shots of the food journals if it keeps bugging me.  The thinspo has also been much better, more posts about training to be badass instead of training to be thin.  The workouts have been pretty good so far, so I'd like to keep going with it if I can. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on November 21, 2013, 07:07:54 AM
Today's numbers look better, from what I'm seeing.  Not so scary low, most everyone is eating at least 1200-1300 calories now.  I wonder if the really low numbers the first two days were more a result of people being gung-ho and really watching what they ate, and some people mentioned that they had had a last weekend of indulgence before the challenge started.  I know that I ate way too much on Sunday night, and wasn't very hungry for much except fruits and veggies on Monday.  There are still some fairly big deficits, but not enough to really screw up metabolisms.  I think it helped that the group leader posted hers, and said her appetite has been low and she needed a second dinner and she had one.  She also told someone else who had really low numbers that they needed a second dinner too!  I chatted with her a little bit off the group board, and expressed my concerns.  She was pretty receptive to it, and said she'd love it if I posted my professional opinions on the board.  One thing that is kind of tricky is that she had gastric bypass surgery about 5 years ago, and she's pretty dialed into what works for her nutritionally.  That is fine, obviously she's going to need to eat smaller meals than most people.  I just hope that people don't look to her food journals as examples of what they should be eating. 

I think I'll continue to see how it goes for a while, and just ignore the screen shots of the food journals if it keeps bugging me.  The thinspo has also been much better, more posts about training to be badass instead of training to be thin.  The workouts have been pretty good so far, so I'd like to keep going with it if I can. 

I had to look up thinspo.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on November 21, 2013, 07:19:31 AM
<shudder>
Thinspo and pro-Ana sites.
<shudder>
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: Ice Cream on November 25, 2013, 07:05:56 AM
what happened to Mini's renewed interest in this thread?
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: MiniDriver on December 12, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
Damn.  Need to start over.   :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: cgraz on December 12, 2013, 04:09:56 PM
Damn.  Need to start over.   :nono:

That's ok. Starting over is better than not starting over.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on December 12, 2013, 07:54:05 PM
That's ok. Starting over is better than not starting over.

Wise woman. :)

Keep on truckin', mini.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on December 13, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
atleast i have the sense to wait until after Xmas :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 11, 2014, 11:01:55 PM
lord help me, I started the Whole Life Challenge today.   :nono:
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: CheryG on January 12, 2014, 07:56:03 AM
lord help me, I started the Whole Life Challenge today.   :nono:

Whoohoo!!!!  You're gonna do great!

Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 12, 2014, 08:07:59 AM
thanks CheryG!  It's pretty daunting b/c of my work trips and b/c I'm a vegetarian.  But I made it through dinner at a pizza joint last night: we went with a bunch of friends so our kids could play in the arcade area.  I shared a salad and veggies + hummus with a friend who got me into the WLC. 

Last night I cooked up a bit of brown rice and I'm simmering chickpeas now.  Should help to be prepared.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: wherestheportojohn on January 12, 2014, 10:18:22 AM
Good vibes for success, Dev.
I was reading your fb feed. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: diablita on January 13, 2014, 08:53:40 AM
Thanks!  Day two was not bad, though the 70 ounces of water made my run challenging.

I'm traveling today/tomorrow for work so my little suitcase has more LARA bars and peanut butter packets in it than clothing.
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: radial on January 13, 2014, 09:30:33 AM
Thanks!  Day two was not bad, though the 70 ounces of water made my run challenging.

I'm traveling today/tomorrow for work so my little suitcase has more LARA bars and peanut butter packets in it than clothing.

That's a *lot* of water!  Glug, glug, glug. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: merigayle on January 13, 2014, 10:14:04 AM
What is the Whole Life Challenge? Is it like the Whole 30? Do i have to google?
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Post by: radial on January 13, 2014, 11:02:11 AM
What is the Whole Life Challenge? Is it like the Whole 30? Do i have to google?

Similar, but the cycle is 60 days (think Whole60).  Also, it's not as narrowly focused on food as the Whole30 program.  The things you track include food, exercise, stretching, supplementation, and a grab bag of "lifestyle" challenges.  Also, it's got a baked in social component.  People form teams, compete with each other, post in forums, blog about their experience, etc.  There seems to be a close relationship with the Crossfit movement as most of the teams are composed of people who belong to a particular crossfit box (gym). 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on January 13, 2014, 12:21:34 PM
I jumped back on the weight watchers wagon.  :sigh:
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Post by: merigayle on January 13, 2014, 12:47:06 PM
Similar, but the cycle is 60 days (think Whole60).  Also, it's not as narrowly focused on food as the Whole30 program.  The things you track include food, exercise, stretching, supplementation, and a grab bag of "lifestyle" challenges.  Also, it's got a baked in social component.  People form teams, compete with each other, post in forums, blog about their experience, etc.  There seems to be a close relationship with the Crossfit movement as most of the teams are composed of people who belong to a particular crossfit box (gym).
thanks!

MM-- what is wrong with that? you have done WW before and it worked.  :hug:
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Post by: Magic Microbe on January 13, 2014, 02:16:00 PM
thanks!

MM-- what is wrong with that? you have done WW before and it worked.  :hug:

Because I despise tracking but I will get over it.
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Post by: wherestheportojohn on January 13, 2014, 03:39:08 PM
I jumped back on the weight watchers wagon.  :sigh:

:rockon:
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Post by: merigayle on January 13, 2014, 07:54:01 PM
Because I despise tracking but I will get over it.
We all do!
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Post by: cgraz on January 13, 2014, 08:09:29 PM
We all do!

Not me. I loved it. Had to wean myself off tracking after a while. I kind of miss it.

I know, I'm weird.

Good luck with the challenge, diablita!
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Post by: CheryG on January 13, 2014, 08:22:35 PM
Not me. I loved it. Had to wean myself off tracking after a while. I kind of miss it.

I know, I'm weird.

Good luck with the challenge, diablita!

I wouldn't say I love it, but I do find the structure comforting.  I have it boiled down to a very easy method and it seems to work pretty well.  Basically it's food group servings, just not the "recommended" ones.

no more than:
one serving of grains
three fruit
two meat
unlimited non-starchy veggies.
sometimes a serving of nuts, but not every day.

I don't measure the fat I use on the above, butter or salad dressings or whatnot. 
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Post by: Magic Microbe on January 14, 2014, 12:09:40 AM
I have royally screwed up my metabolism by being a fat youngun. If I dont track every little bite and eat super low cal with working out each day I wont lise weight. Weight watchers means I will be constantly hungry. Grrr.
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Post by: wherestheportojohn on January 14, 2014, 08:05:02 AM
Not me. I loved it. Had to wean myself off tracking after a while. I kind of miss it.

I know, I'm weird.

Good luck with the challenge, diablita!

Sis and I also had to wean ourselves from years of obsessive WW tracking.
I removed all of my weight using the points tracker from 2001.... Still carry my old original around in my purse!!
Don't use it for anything but the "reminder" of fatness past. ;)
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Post by: Run Amok on January 20, 2014, 05:24:10 PM
Meh. Back on the healthy eating bandwagon to try and keep 7lbs from turning into a lot more than that. Day 1 and I'm hungry and missing candy. Wah.
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Post by: diablita on January 20, 2014, 07:44:17 PM
it's always tough in the beginning...but you're tougher
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Post by: Run Amok on January 21, 2014, 04:55:39 PM
Thanks D! Today is a little easier. Though... still grumpy.

How's the whole30 going?
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Post by: wherestheportojohn on January 21, 2014, 05:28:45 PM
 :panic: no sugar...could not do it. Nope. Nope. Nope.

More Power to those of you who can give it up. :rockon:


(Giving up raisin bread and bagels had been tough enough for this carb-loving girl)
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Post by: diablita on January 21, 2014, 08:20:50 PM
:)

I'm really doing great and enjoying this thoroughly!  And I've lost 3 pounds.

I'm snacking on (homemade) trail mix right now.  :)
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Post by: Run Amok on January 22, 2014, 11:12:51 AM
Nice!

My scale says I'm down about 4 but I'm skeptical.
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Post by: diablita on January 22, 2014, 06:59:58 PM
Did you even have 4 to lose?? I'm now down 4 as well despite what turned into a PMS trail mix binge last night. The fact that I am bloated and weigh this is making me happy

I'm thinking about splurging one night and having a forbidden item but not yet. We lose one point per item but if its a combo of non-compliant foods (e.g., slice of pizza is flour plus cheese) it's still one point lost per serving. We'll see. I discovered yesterday that TJ's brown rice pasta is compliant (just brown rice and water) and that's sated my pasta craving a little. I made the most fabulous eggplant sauce to go with it (from "Plenty", GREAT cookbook) and loved it.
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Post by: Run Amok on January 22, 2014, 07:14:43 PM
No pasta is tough!! Is it wheat-free? Can you do corn? TJ's corn pasta is pretty good and doesn't have a lot of junk in it. But, no idea if it complies or not.

7 to what I consider my maintenance weight. 12 to where I'm happiest (which is hard to maintain). Which I realize seems silly to even worry about. But, I sleep better at night if I'm not worrying about whether the weight is creeping back on. And, getting on the scale at the dr office was an unhappy surprise. I was probably up even more than that between the holidays and recent work travel. In which I Indulged. I've been trying to rein it in without going full austerity measures and I do think it was working. But, I was relying on running 30+ mpw, which I can't do right now. So, austerity it is! ;)

I had forgotten how much volume and how frequently this plan calls for eating. I feel like I'm constantly shoving food in my face. It's a little disconcerting. Especially because I'm adding in extra calories to compensate for my workouts. But, I'm trying not to think about it and just eat when I'm supposed to.  :D

My fridge is stuffed full of veggies. Admittedly, I've been terrible about cooking at home, beyond eggs, the past 18 months or so. So, I'm trying. But- sheesh! It's a lot of veggies. Usually a cup of cooked veggies and 2 cups of salad. I'm not being as careful about things like oil and dressing as the plan calls for because I can't run the super low calories of the plan. I'm more just trying to eat in the general fashion (and avoid candy, booze, etc).
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Post by: diablita on January 22, 2014, 08:13:48 PM
You're always an inspiration to me. And yes, I can have corn at the Beginner level and thanks for reminding me to check the corn pasta. It's good too! Toughest part is still no cheese.

I'm definitely eating more healthy fat (e.g., hummus, avocado) and worrying less about counting calories!
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Post by: radial on January 22, 2014, 09:41:09 PM
Sounds like you are doing great, Dev.  Congrats!  I don't think I could handle all the water they want you to drink on that program.  I would have to wear Depends to get a good night's sleep :)
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Post by: diablita on January 22, 2014, 10:02:53 PM
What's a good night's sleep? ;). Word is Friday they switch up the water challenge for something like sleeping > 7 hours.
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Post by: wherestheportojohn on January 25, 2014, 10:02:04 AM
:rockon: Dev and RA!
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Post by: teetime on January 25, 2014, 05:57:50 PM
Did you even have 4 to lose?? I'm now down 4 as well despite what turned into a PMS trail mix binge last night. The fact that I am bloated and weigh this is making me happy

I'm thinking about splurging one night and having a forbidden item but not yet. We lose one point per item but if its a combo of non-compliant foods (e.g., slice of pizza is flour plus cheese) it's still one point lost per serving. We'll see. I discovered yesterday that TJ's brown rice pasta is compliant (just brown rice and water) and that's sated my pasta craving a little. I made the most fabulous eggplant sauce to go with it (from "Plenty", GREAT cookbook) and loved it.

We have this book ... Which recipe? DH made a roasted caponata from that book that wasn't great but we did like the cover recipe eggplant dish.
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Post by: diablita on January 26, 2014, 08:28:49 AM
It's the eggplant served over corn polenta.  I have made it with actual polenta and it's really delicious, haven't made it during corn season yet to do the fresh corn thing.  I also make his hummus and it's delicious.  And I want to make the shakshuka.
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Post by: merigayle on January 26, 2014, 08:35:59 AM
isn't polenta always corn? lol
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Post by: diablita on January 26, 2014, 03:11:07 PM
polenta=ground dry corn I think.  his recipe calls for cutting the kernels off of fresh corn ears and processing them like the dry polenta.
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Post by: merigayle on January 26, 2014, 07:30:27 PM
polenta=ground dry corn I think.  his recipe calls for cutting the kernels off of fresh corn ears and processing them like the dry polenta.
Ah gotcha, never heard of it that way, only ground dry corn.
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Post by: teetime on January 27, 2014, 09:03:02 AM
Ah gotcha, never heard of it that way, only ground dry corn.

Thanks, D!  I'll check it out.

Meri, we always laugh about this book because the recipes are gorgeous but he finds way to make boiling an egg a 10 step process where you do things like rub the egg shell with rosemary and let it sit in a bath of rose petal filled water for two days before cooking at 106 degrees. 

That's why I love knowing ahead of time which recipes are worth it!
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Post by: merigayle on January 27, 2014, 11:54:51 AM
That sounds like wayyy too much work for me :D
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Post by: GreenMan on January 27, 2014, 10:23:11 PM
That sounds like wayyy too much work for me :D

Then you probably won't be interested in these Chinese Tea Leaf Eggs (http://allrecipes.com/recipe/chinese-tea-leaf-eggs/).

(http://images.media-allrecipes.com/userphotos/250x250/00/01/58/15879.jpg)
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Post by: diablita on February 08, 2014, 07:47:48 AM
I'm down one more pound and happy with my weight but my digestive system is not thrilled.  I alternate between a little bit off and really really off (like right now) and can't eat the toast and plain buttered pasta I would typically eat when my stomach isn't good.
Title: Perpetual Healthy Eating and Fitness Rant & Rave thread
Post by: triciaflower on February 09, 2014, 12:49:29 AM
I feel like I've neglected y'all. I've been hanging out in the procreative updates thread.

Well I started another Whole30! Yay!! I lost 16 lbs during my last one and have slowly felt the weight creeping back up. Only about 4lbs, but still. Couple that with my intense sugar cravings that came back and my inability to turn down a brownie or cookie. Clothes are fitting tighter. Recipe for disaster.

So far it's going well!


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Post by: zaggor on June 24, 2014, 10:13:04 AM
That's quite interesting way of doing diet. You can read one of my post on this link http://www.sbradvisor.com/eating-marathon/ (http://www.sbradvisor.com/eating-marathon/)
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Post by: zaggor on October 24, 2014, 07:46:45 AM
I found a couple of good articles about nutrition and eating advice. The website is about half marathon training   however, they also covered nutrition and hydration.
http://www.half-marathontraining.org (http://www.half-marathontraining.org)