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Running => Running => Topic started by: El Chupacabra on September 13, 2017, 02:48:19 PM
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So let's talk about your 5k time, shall we?
Or maybe your 40 yard dash.
I pulled a hamstring last week. Really annoying too because it's right where the hamstring attaches up at the butt (was doing some repeat 400's and apparently overdid it)
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I'll be doing my part for a virtual David Torrence memorial downhill mile next week.
The original in 2005
[/url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfPJ-Hh_Bi8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfPJ-Hh_Bi8)
Remembering DT
http://www.flotrack.org/article/60930-olympian-david-torrence-passes-away-at-age-31#.WbmDRmdlKig (http://www.flotrack.org/article/60930-olympian-david-torrence-passes-away-at-age-31#.WbmDRmdlKig)
I'm planning on starting near the Red Rocks amphitheater, where the access road winds and drops some 210 feet to County Road 93.
Meanwhile, I got a 13.1 this weekend.
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I can do a 5K in less than 15 minutes these days
On my bike.
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So let's talk about your 5k time, shall we?
Or maybe your 40 yard dash.
I pulled a hamstring last week. Really annoying too because it's right where the hamstring attaches up at the butt (was doing some repeat 400's and apparently overdid it)
less than 7 1/2 minute per mile pace, but i'm also running less than two miles when i time myself.
running about a 5k long run.
now they're gonna move this post...
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less than 7 1/2 minute per mile pace, but i'm also running less than two miles when i time myself.
running about a 5k long run.
now they're gonna move this post...
It's hidden under a political banner potentiating vitriol--we're good we're good!
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I screwed up my hamstring insertions to the butt playing basketball and soccer in my early 30s. I don't think it's ever going to heal, given I'll be 50 later this year... So, good luck with that.
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I strained my calf yesterday morning after i started running again (ran 4x last week). i am really really fat and need to move more and eat less. i kind of overdid it i guess.
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I strained my calf yesterday morning after i started running again (ran 4x last week). i am really really fat and need to move more and eat less. i kind of overdid it i guess.
I was just getting a regular schedule and was taking running slow and easy. I pulled my hamstring playing soccer with 13yos last Friday night. Still hobbled.
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I don't want to think about what it would be right now. 21:40 is my PR.
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Ohhhhhh...
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Anthropogenic climate change is real, and the science supports it.
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What's more, I bet most deniers are slow 5K runners to boot.
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Anthropogenic climate change is real, and the science supports it.
Are you team xero or team rochey ?
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At least two of us were discussing soccer!
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Are you team xero or team rochey ?
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Rochey forever...
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At least two of us were discussing soccer!
Missed that; not encouraging.
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Move it!!
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Tarawa - I think my tendons are messed up beyond what happens to most people. If you don't feel right fast, get into PT.
I have multiple issues and I think I am somehow just wired for poor healing. You'll be better than that.
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fuck this
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At least two of us were discussing soccer!
Doesn't count. You injure yourself walking to the bathroom in the morning.
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Team Rochey!
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Tarawa - I think my tendons are messed up beyond what happens to most people. If you don't feel right fast, get into PT.
I have multiple issues and I think I am somehow just wired for poor healing. You'll be better than that.
Thanks. I've had knee issues after trail marathons in the past, but those went away after a couple of weeks. This is the first time I've felt a kind of 'tear' as I extended and slipped on the muddy surface. To be honest, it's only a little better. I'll think about PT if it doesn't get better soon.
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I love rochey, but I want to talk about running here.
I'M TORN
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THERE IS A RUNNING THREAD, PEOPLE. USE IT.
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Barry has spoken.
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THERE IS A RUNNING THREAD, PEOPLE. USE IT.
It's a forum, not a thread, Shouty McShoutypants!
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He shouted so hard it hurt my eyeballs and I didn't even notice that.
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http://youtu.be/Dyx4v1QFzhQ
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I agree with Xero on nothing, but this issue.
This running forum is really lame. And don't say contribute more. I put a lot into this place for a lot of years and in the end all that they wanted here was a daily thread.
3 miles today
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I'm so ashamed by my mistake. :(
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Tarawa - I think my tendons are messed up beyond what happens to most people. If you don't feel right fast, get into PT.
I have multiple issues and I think I am somehow just wired for poor healing. You'll be better than that.
:D
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I'm on running restart #214, I think. Right now, four miles counts as a long run. I think my 5K time is about 26:45. I struggle to do 3x90 second 400s with a 400 jog/stagger in between. I am 50. This is where I am right now and it sucks, but it's better than where I was 6 months ago.
And what is it with calf tightness and pain with a running start up? I suffered through several starts that I went into too fast and which ended with calf pain. I took it much easier this time around and got through the calf pain period and got beyond it. Now it's just the slow slog of getting cardio back.
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I don't even remember the last time I ran! I hurt myself too much. I walk around and play pokemon.
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I'm on running restart #214, I think. Right now, four miles counts as a long run. I think my 5K time is about 26:45. I struggle to do 3x90 second 400s with a 400 jog/stagger in between. I am 50. This is where I am right now and it sucks, but it's better than where I was 6 months ago.
And what is it with calf tightness and pain with a running start up? I suffered through several starts that I went into too fast and which ended with calf pain. I took it much easier this time around and got through the calf pain period and got beyond it. Now it's just the slow slog of getting cardio back.
this is me (except i'll be 54 in october!) it drives me crazy. i'm taking it slower when i get back at it.
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Good to see some discussion about running here--a two page thread! Wind aided and downhill on the first lap but that's still something!
Go for four laps (pages). We can do it!
Pro runners Kyle Merber and Ben Blankenship (2016 Olympian at 1500 m) ran Alaska's first outdoor sub 4 mile last night at a special event in Anchorage, put on by Alaska's most renowned runner Trevor Dunbar (whom I discussed many times 8-9 years ago when he was a high schooler in Kodiak).
https://www.adn.com/sports/running/2017/09/13/on-historic-night-of-running-two-break-4-minute-mile-mark-at-west-high/ (https://www.adn.com/sports/running/2017/09/13/on-historic-night-of-running-two-break-4-minute-mile-mark-at-west-high/)
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My 5k pr is 22:19 at the age of 47 in 2008.. currently can barely walk so.... that's probably as good as it's going to get
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Good, we're almost through lap 2. El Chup was the rabbit on lap 1 but he tops out at 800 so Like Trevor Dunbar in the Alaska mile I'll take the load through lap 3. Hope that we have a big kick!
Do you think a sub 4 thread is possible??
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My 5k pr is 22:19 at the age of 47 in 2008.. currently can barely walk so.... that's probably as good as it's going to get
You're on rehab for how many more months? Do you have a timeline when you can start running?
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Good to see some discussion about running here--a two page thread! Wind aided and downhill on the first lap but that's still something!
Go for four laps (pages). We can do it!
Pro runners Kyle Merber and Ben Blankenship (2016 Olympian at 1500 m) ran Alaska's first outdoor sub 4 mile last night at a special event in Anchorage, put on by Alaska's most renowned runner Trevor Dunbar (whom I discussed many times 8-9 years ago when he was a high schooler in Kodiak).
https://www.adn.com/sports/running/2017/09/13/on-historic-night-of-running-two-break-4-minute-mile-mark-at-west-high/ (https://www.adn.com/sports/running/2017/09/13/on-historic-night-of-running-two-break-4-minute-mile-mark-at-west-high/)
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I miss the fitness that came with training, but as I hobbled through three painful miles in which it felt like my entire body was revolting (seriously, how can running make your elbow hurt?!), I just don't know that I can put the effort in now. And, well, long and unpredictable work hours + travel.
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Tarawa - I think my tendons are messed up beyond what happens to most people. If you don't feel right fast, get into PT.
I have multiple issues and I think I am somehow just wired for poor healing. You'll be better than that.
My rule of thumb is 3 weeks self-treatment/downtime if something flares up--unless it's a whole lot of pain. And then it's time to seek medical advice and PT.
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I miss the fitness that came with training, but as I hobbled through three painful miles in which it felt like my entire body was revolting (seriously, how can running make your elbow hurt?!), I just don't know that I can put the effort in now. And, well, long and unpredictable work hours + travel.
Can you start up with 3 days a week of walk-jogging for a couple months and see how that goes? Just get out when you can.
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I can count too. But I'm not smart enough to do it backwards, even with 80% single digit prime numbers.
But 60.6 for lap 1
61.8 lap 2 (we had to sleep on that one), so damn we gotta pick it up!
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So let's talk about your 5k time, shall we?
Or maybe your 40 yard dash.
I pulled a hamstring last week. Really annoying too because it's right where the hamstring attaches up at the butt (was doing some repeat 400's and apparently overdid it)
Sorry about the dinged up hams. That's why don't sprint much--hams, Achilles, PF are all susceptible and those things can take forever to heal up.
I raced two 5Ks at altitude early in the year but my two best 5Ks in 2017 have been second half splits (sub 18) in 10Ks at sea level. I briefly thought about traveling to Syracuse for the masters 5K championships this month but travel budget is limited an I'll focus on 15K next month and 10K XC in late fall.
My sprint speed is very lame. I'm all slow twitch anymore. For me it's aerobic capacity and economy at +/- 6:00/mile pace. Whatever I'm doing seems to be working.
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Can you start up with 3 days a week of walk-jogging for a couple months and see how that goes? Just get out when you can.
That's what I do, three days a week, "easy" runs supplemented by three days of week of strength training. My hamstring (and now piriformis) makes running thoroughly unenjoyable. My pace these days is what I used to do as a recovery jog in the speed work days. >:(
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That's what I do, three days a week, "easy" runs supplemented by three days of week of strength training. My hamstring (and now piriformis) makes running thoroughly unenjoyable. My pace these days is what I used to do as a recovery jog in the speed work days. >:(
Thanks for helping with the pace Amy! Lap 3 is the tough one. :)
Yeah I went through many years with aches and pains (late 30s, some in the 40s, and 50s), when it seemed like nothing worked. Somehow things kind of worked themselves out. So the best I can say is keep at it, work to fix the sources of the problems, and get medical help/advice when needed.
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Related to the sub mile last night in Alaska, who are the best all time milers from your state? (either native born or originally from there, or transplants)?
I guess you have to be sort of a track nerd to know these things. Letsrun has had a couple threads trying to pin this down. I'll go look for it.
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Not even at a 1000 meters yet and I'm getting tired.
Here's the thread I was thinking of, although it's somewhat dated and male only, which is pretty lame:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3075930 (http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3075930)
No one in my home state of Colorado has gone under 4 here but it's at 5000 feet and higher. The official record is 4:01.27 by Tabor Stevens in 2015. Each spring they hold a couple all out attempts, one in La Junta or Lamar (small farm town in the SE part of the state at 4200') and another in Longmont (elevation 5000') as part of a high school/pro meet each May. This year they offered $10000 to do it. And they plan to up the ante each year until someone does it.
I think Adam Goucher (a CO native no less) still has the best time, he ran a 3:54 in Europ about 10 or 15 years ago. We can claim Jenny Simpson because she's been here her entire adult life. She ran 4:16 at the 5th Ave. Mile last week, tying Pattisue Plumer's time from the mid-1990s. Plumer is originally from Colorado, went to high school in Montrose, before going to Stanford and staying in the Bay Area after that.
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Before the lactic acid shuts me down and all you guys drafting off me blast by on the final lap, I thought this discussion on hate speech vs. free speech on campuses was pretty interesting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/opinion/berkeley-dean-erwin-chemerinsky.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/opinion/berkeley-dean-erwin-chemerinsky.html)
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You're on rehab for how many more months? Do you have a timeline when you can start running?
My progress is very very slow. For some reason I am the one in fifteen who does not react well to immobilization and non weightbearing.. My progress is so slow that my brain is just in the 24 hours ahead of me and I am not even thinking about running..
I only made it around ( if you can call it that) on the recumbent bike for the first time last week and it's no guarantee I will be able to do it each time again.
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My progress is very very slow. For some reason I am the one in fifteen who does not react well to immobilization and non weightbearing.. My progress is so slow that my brain is just in the 24 hours ahead of me and I am not even thinking about running..
I only made it around ( if you can call it that) on the recumbent bike for the first time last week and it's no guarantee I will be able to do it each time again.
Sorry to hear that. But I also think you'll come back around eventually. Keep the faith and keep working on it.
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While everyone is talking about their injuries, I'll add mine. I had an office visit with an orthopedic surgeon yesterday to get an opinion on my torn cartilage. I had already decided that my running career was over; but wanted some insight into the condition of my knee. The news wasn't good. My knee is shot. Years of running and possibly the original surgery has resulted in an arthritic knee that he described as a 7.5 on a scale of 10. He recommended quad extensions to maximize strength. Fortunately, I don't have any pain or discomfort. So, now in addition to working out on a Concept2 rowing machine and a recumbent bike (both of which work the quads), I've added quad extensions and hamstring curls to my weight lifting program. I've been running since 1958 with some success so there aren't any regrets.
To keep my competitive juices firing, I can still compete on the rowing machine when I log my times into their world list. There are even a few indoor rowing meets where I could compete if I can get fit enough. So, all is not lost.
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My progress is very very slow. For some reason I am the one in fifteen who does not react well to immobilization and non weightbearing.. My progress is so slow that my brain is just in the 24 hours ahead of me and I am not even thinking about running..
I only made it around ( if you can call it that) on the recumbent bike for the first time last week and it's no guarantee I will be able to do it each time again.
Be patient with yourself. Your surgery was pretty severe, so give yourself a lot of time. Eventually you may find a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
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NCAA XC is kicking off with a few low key meets last week and this week. I think the first big invites will be the week after and into early October.
Who do you like?
I think Oregon women are stacked and will be tough to beat. Colorado is also tough. They were favorites last year but sort of choked at the championship. At the individual level, if they can stay healthy, can't wait for the matchup between Karissa Schweizer of Mizzou and Allie Ostrander of Boise State. Schweizer was the surprise winner last year but went on to win 5000 indoor and outdoor titles and place 4th, against all the pros, at the USA national championships. She's got a wicked kick. The waifish Ostrander hasn't run XC since 2015 but placed a solid 2nd at NCAAs as a freshman, and won the collegiate 3000 m steeplechase last spring.
The men's field is more wide open I think. Syracuse might be the favorite, but Colorado usually has a way to come out of the woodwork for a podium finish if not vie for the title. King Ches (Oregon-Kenya) has graduated and gone pro and last year's upset winner Patrick Tiernan (Villanova-Australia) has too. So Justin Knight (Canada-Syracuse) seems to be an early favorite.
Who are your picks, or favorites from your alma mater or home state?
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While everyone is talking about their injuries, I'll add mine. I had an office visit with an orthopedic surgeon yesterday to get an opinion on my torn cartilage. I had already decided that my running career was over; but wanted some insight into the condition of my knee. The news wasn't good. My knee is shot. Years of running and possibly the original surgery has resulted in an arthritic knee that he described as a 7.5 on a scale of 10. He recommended quad extensions to maximize strength. Fortunately, I don't have any pain or discomfort. So, now in addition to working out on a Concept2 rowing machine and a recumbent bike (both of which work the quads), I've added quad extensions and hamstring curls to my weight lifting program. I've been running since 1958 with some success so there aren't any regrets.
To keep my competitive juices firing, I can still compete on the rowing machine when I log my times into their world list. There are even a few indoor rowing meets where I could compete if I can get fit enough. So, all is not lost.
Could you still get knee replacement?
Good work with the rowing.
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I've had my share of injuries and down time, and must be on my 7th or 8th life. But this has bee a good year so far and I want to keep it rolling.
Two little niggles though. One new the other has been around for a few months. The new one was I woke up the other day and I was having some muscle spasms in my thoracic spinal area. It hurt to breathe and move around for Tuesday and Wednesday, but seems much better today. Just a little tight if I twist.
The other is my right hip almost feels like it's popping out of joint sometimes. I wonder if I have a slight labral tear or something. I'll be running along--usually in the first mile or two and it just feels very wobbly for a stride two. But then it goes away.
I only do a little stretching and some light core work about 2X a week.
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Could you still get knee replacement?
Right now, I am not interested in a knee replacement. My visit yesterday was simply to discuss the torn cartilage and the possibility of further injury. I am not in any real discomfort; in fact I walked 4 miles on the "rail trail" each day last week when I was visiting my brother in South Yarmouth, MA. I can still do anything I could do before. I am very careful when I pivot, since I don't have a lot of lateral support for my knee; but I have been doing this since my original surgery 45 years ago. So, nothing new.
Right now my 30 minute row time is the 11th fastest out of 27 entries (70-79 lightweight) on this year's Concept2 World List (the year ends next May 1st). Hopefully I will improve and not drop too far on the list when more rowers enter their times.
It is very common for older runners to stop running and start rowing. It is a nice full body, non weight bearing exercise.
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As always you have such a great attitude Richard. Hope that your meet and beat your rowing goals along the way!
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i don't know how my 2.95 mile run is gonna get us out of this black hole. i can't even see myself complain about the lack of incline here. it is totally flat. like Hillary's chances of a political comeback. not that she won't try...
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Closing on lap 3, 57...58...
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58.6! We are at 3:01 for three quarter mile!
But I'm getting pretty gassed with that lap and a half of leading, so you guys will have to pick it up if we are to make 4 pages in 24 hours from the original posting.
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NCAA XC is kicking off with a few low key meets last week and this week. I think the first big invites will be the week after and into early October.
Who do you like?
I think Oregon women are stacked and will be tough to beat. Colorado is also tough. They were favorites last year but sort of choked at the championship. At the individual level, if they can stay healthy, can't wait for the matchup between Karissa Schweizer of Mizzou and Allie Ostrander of Boise State. Schweizer was the surprise winner last year but went on to win 5000 indoor and outdoor titles and place 4th, against all the pros, at the USA national championships. She's got a wicked kick. The waifish Ostrander hasn't run XC since 2015 but placed a solid 2nd at NCAAs as a freshman, and won the collegiate 3000 m steeplechase last spring.
The men's field is more wide open I think. Syracuse might be the favorite, but Colorado usually has a way to come out of the woodwork for a podium finish if not vie for the title. King Ches (Oregon-Kenya) has graduated and gone pro and last year's upset winner Patrick Tiernan (Villanova-Australia) has too. So Justin Knight (Canada-Syracuse) seems to be an early favorite.
Who are your picks, or favorites from your alma mater or home state?
My son runs for Dickinson College, which is DIII #27 as of yesterday's Coaches poll. So I'm fairly focused on DIII XC right now. But a teammate of his got a full scholarship to Syracuse and is in his red-shirt freshman year, so I'll be paying close attention to Syracuse over the next few years.
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My son runs for Dickinson College, which is DIII #27 as of yesterday's Coaches poll. So I'm fairly focused on DIII XC right now. But a teammate of his got a full scholarship to Syracuse and is in his red-shirt freshman year, so I'll be paying close attention to Syracuse over the next few years.
yeeesh, more boring than running is watching running.
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My son runs for Dickinson College, which is DIII #27 as of yesterday's Coaches poll. So I'm fairly focused on DIII XC right now. But a teammate of his got a full scholarship to Syracuse and is in his red-shirt freshman year, so I'll be paying close attention to Syracuse over the next few years.
There are a couple of Dickinson colleges aren't there? #27 is pretty good. I think the depth at D3 is very good these days.
I just looked at the rankings and it's somewhat different from my day, but also a lot of familiar teams. I think some years 3-4 of the top 5 teams in the country were from our region, with Augustana (IL), Carleton, St. Olaf, North Central, and LaCrosse usually in the mix. And for 3 of the 4 years I ran the individual champion was from our region as well. We'd thrash Wartburg and Loras but now they are top 20.
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And while on the subject of D3 running, I looked at my old school's XC website the other day and they keep an honor roll of the top times for 8K. I was wiped off that list years and years ago. But we had a bunch (like 6) from that era on there, from a single race in which the course was undoubtedly short--maybe 30 seconds +/-10. The coach (who succeeded our coach) kept them up there but he didn't seem happy about that. Well the old coach passed away a few years ago and they have since stripped off the names/times off the list from that race, which is well and good. But our top guy from the 1977-79 teams also ran a good time at a regional meet one year and he didn't get credit. So I emailed the coach and mentioned this. No reply yet. He probably hates it when old alums from the previous era pipe up. But I believe in giving credit where it is due.
My son runs D2, but is taking the year off for an academic exchange at another university.
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Okay, you crazy effers, drafting slackers, and hobby posting miscreants! We are on the backstretch of the final lap, 300 meters to go. I'm tied up. Time for the kickers to take over or this effort is all in vain!
This thread started at 1:48 CDT yesterday, you have 25 minutes to finish the lap.
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There are a couple of Dickinson colleges aren't there? #27 is pretty good. I think the depth at D3 is very good these days.
I just looked at the rankings and it's somewhat different from my day, but also a lot of familiar teams. I think some years 3-4 of the top 5 teams in the country were from our region, with Augustana (IL), Carleton, St. Olaf, North Central, and LaCrosse usually in the mix. And for 3 of the 4 years I ran the individual champion was from our region as well. We'd thrash Wartburg and Loras but now they are top 20.
There's Dickinson and Fairleigh Dickinson and probably Extremeleigh Dickinson somewhere...
One of my fondest memories from high school track was from the Dickinson Relays, an annual indoor meet that takes place in the UNI-dome. Sort of exciting for high school, but my buddy Erik and I were running the 3200 (like always) and it was the first event (like always). We might have also been running the 1600, but either way, we were done racing WAY early in the event. So we told our coaches we were going for a cool-down jog, then ran to downtown Cedar Falls and got a pizza, which we then brought back and lorded over people who still had to race.
My sister ran at Macalester, who competed with those other Midwestern schools. LaCrosse was strong then. Of course, this was 20 years ago...
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Okay, you crazy effers, drafting slackers, and hobby posting miscreants! We are on the backstretch of the final lap, 300 meters to go. I'm tied up. Time for the kickers to take over or this effort is all in vain!
This thread started at 1:48 CDT yesterday, you have 25 minutes to finish the lap.
So is "kick" really a thing? I mean, if you have enough left at the end of a race for a "kick" doesn't it mean that you probably didn't make enough of an effort earlier in the race? I don't remember having anything left at the end of most of my races, and I also remember passing people in the final 800 who were de.fi.nite.ly faster sprinters than me. Sure, they'd have cleaned my clock in a straight-up 800, but that neglects the fact that they've been spending the previous several miles making themselves tired...
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So is "kick" really a thing? I mean, if you have enough left at the end of a race for a "kick" doesn't it mean that you probably didn't make enough of an effort earlier in the race? I don't remember having anything left at the end of most of my races, and I also remember passing people in the final 800 who were de.fi.nite.ly faster sprinters than me. Sure, they'd have cleaned my clock in a straight-up 800, but that neglects the fact that they've been spending the previous several miles making themselves tired...
Thanks for jumping in CFL.
We're not going to make it.
But in a tactical race, sure there is a kick, they close in 51 seconds these days. In a time trial, less so and it would depend.
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I'm so confused. Why are we 10 posts into page 4 still talking about getting to page 4?
My 5k PR is 20:47. I have a mental goal that if I ever break 20:00 I never have to run a 5k again. But I have yet to take any actual action on that goal whatsoever.
Re: Injuries: I'm old and delicate in the hammy region. It takes me 4 miles to warm up. And my hip always hurts. :moon:
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That's what I do, three days a week, "easy" runs supplemented by three days of week of strength training. My hamstring (and now piriformis) makes running thoroughly unenjoyable. My pace these days is what I used to do as a recovery jog in the speed work days. >:(
I have had an irritated hamstring/piriformis for several years now. I made a breakthrough the other day when i realized (with help from a dr) that I was running with my quads-hamstrings instead of my core-glutes. Just changing that mindset (drive with core, legs passive and reactive) made a huge difference. One of my tells was that my hamstring was hurting before my foot hit the ground, which I knew because my hamstring hurt like a mo-fo every time it fired. Also, the whole bad mechanics thing was made worse when i tried to run slower to ease off on my hurting self, which turned it into a whole snowball effect. yay?
Anyhoo, this may not be what's happening to you, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
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I'm so confused. Why are we 10 posts into page 4 still talking about getting to page 4?
My 5k PR is 20:47. I have a mental goal that if I ever break 20:00 I never have to run a 5k again. But I have yet to take any actual action on that goal whatsoever.
Re: Injuries: I'm old and delicate in the hammy region. It takes me 4 miles to warm up. And my hip always hurts. :moon:
We're in the 4th lap. We have to finish 4 pages.
We didn't get sub 4, but still aiming for a respectable time. Every 6 hours of post time = 1 minute run time if you follow. So we are almost 90 minutes over 24 hours, which if my numbers are right puts us at
4:14...
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I have had an irritated hamstring/piriformis for several years now. I made a breakthrough the other day when i realized (with help from a dr) that I was running with my quads-hamstrings instead of my core-glutes. Just changing that mindset (drive with core, legs passive and reactive) made a huge difference. One of my tells was that my hamstring was hurting before my foot hit the ground, which I knew because my hamstring hurt like a mo-fo every time it fired. Also, the whole bad mechanics thing was made worse when i tried to run slower to ease off on my hurting self, which turned it into a whole snowball effect. yay?
Anyhoo, this may not be what's happening to you, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
4:14....
Good luck with your rehab and quest for sub 20. 20 is a solid 5K time.
4:15...
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But in a tactical race, sure there is a kick, they close in 51 seconds these days. In a time trial, less so and it would depend.
Yeah, I wasn't thinking of tactical races for short distances. I was thinking more the distances that I raced at, say 8K or more.
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Yeah, I wasn't thinking of tactical races for short distances. I was thinking more the distances that I raced at, say 8K or more.
Farah and those guys kick really fast 52 or so on the last lap, even in a fast-paced race and anymore at the world stage you have to be under 54 for the last lap and super strong through 90% of the race to have a chance.
For my best mile I closed in in 2:11 (64 final lap), but that was after a fairly easy first half.
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4:19...4:20...
Any Ema Coburn fans out there? She's getting married this month.
And I heard a rumor that Lolo Jones is pregnant. But that's unsubstantiated. Recall she wanted to 'wait' until she got married. She's like 32 now.
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ahem. should this type of behaviour be allowed:
http://chrunners.net/forum/index.php?topic=116102.msg2864574#new (http://chrunners.net/forum/index.php?topic=116102.msg2864574#new)
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ahem. should this type of behaviour be allowed:
http://chrunners.net/forum/index.php?topic=116102.msg2864574#new (http://chrunners.net/forum/index.php?topic=116102.msg2864574#new)
4:27...4:28
Absolutely! Because this is a black hole over here and it's a time-sensitive request, and not unreasonable to reach the broadest audience. However, I threw away my mod abilities a few years ago.
Can we break 4:30???!!!!
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...4:30...
NEXT POST WINS!
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ahem. should this type of behaviour be allowed:
http://chrunners.net/forum/index.php?topic=116102.msg2864574#new (http://chrunners.net/forum/index.php?topic=116102.msg2864574#new)
Christ you're annoying
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There's Dickinson and Fairleigh Dickinson and probably Extremeleigh Dickinson somewhere...
One of my fondest memories from high school track was from the Dickinson Relays, an annual indoor meet that takes place in the UNI-dome. Sort of exciting for high school, but my buddy Erik and I were running the 3200 (like always) and it was the first event (like always). We might have also been running the 1600, but either way, we were done racing WAY early in the event. So we told our coaches we were going for a cool-down jog, then ran to downtown Cedar Falls and got a pizza, which we then brought back and lorded over people who still had to race.
My sister ran at Macalester, who competed with those other Midwestern schools. LaCrosse was strong then. Of course, this was 20 years ago...
I'm assuming this is Dickinson in pa
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Christ you're annoying
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MOS for the win! And a good point. More power to you.
4:30.9
Our last lap was a struggle at just under 91 seconds.
And speaking of annoying, I'm going to shut up for.a.while. I just set my PR for number of posts in one day. Thanks to those for participating in my stupid mile race today!
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So is "kick" really a thing? I mean, if you have enough left at the end of a race for a "kick" doesn't it mean that you probably didn't make enough of an effort earlier in the race?
There is such a thing as a "kick". When "kicking", there is a change in breathing pattern, arm action and stride length. There have been races in which I thought I was too tired to "kick", but it was always there. Having been a sprinter in high school and college didn't hurt; but my son and daughter have outstanding "kicks". But one of the first things they were taught was how to sprint.
I remember in my first 5K, I was dragged through the first mile and was really hurting. Late in the race, when I started my "kick", the runner in front of me looked back and decided I couldn't possibly catch him; I did. We became good friends and once, while running together, he joked about my daughter "outkicking" his daughter -- "shades of the ole man" he declared.
Coyote Mas Loco I'm doing my best to keep this going.
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I'm assuming this is Dickinson in pa
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Yup, Dickinson College in Carlisle, PA. They compete in the Centennial Conference - a strong conference that includes Johns Hopkins and Haverford, two perennial DIII men's top 10-20 XC teams.
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Not to burst your bubble, but it's only page 2 :o
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MOS for the win! And a good point. More power to you.
4:30.9
Our last lap was a struggle at just under 91 seconds.
And speaking of annoying, I'm going to shut up for.a.while. I just set my PR for number of posts in one day. Thanks to those for participating in my stupid mile race today!
I hadn't even seen your other posts until after I posted the unknown to me winner
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Yup, Dickinson College in Carlisle, PA. They compete in the Centennial Conference - a strong conference that includes Johns Hopkins and Haverford, two perennial DIII men's top 10-20 XC teams.
Haverford is usually good.. I live about a mile from the campus run ( or I should say used to) all the time before my surgery
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Haverford is usually good.. I live about a mile from the campus run ( or I should say used to) all the time before my surgery
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My university's XC teams are consistently good, but I'm more impressed by their perfect Academic Progress Rates.
They're usually my favorite students, too.
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My university's XC teams are consistently good, but I'm more impressed by their perfect Academic Progress Rates.
They're usually my favorite students, too.
Yeah when my daughter ran division 3 academics was a priority... no practices before a certain time so no cutting into class time... but crossing over that line from class room to field house was a really good stress reliever... they always had many academic all Americans and I remember the woman's team had a streak of multiple semesters with every team member maintaining higher than a 3.0
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I have a good kick but it looks like you already crossed the finish line
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Haverford is usually good.. I live about a mile from the campus run ( or I should say used to) all the time before my surgery
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One of the best races I've ever seen my son run was finishing second in the Centennial Conference 10,000m championship race his freshman year. #1 was from Haverford and he outran Haverford's #2 in the last 800m to take second.
I was at Haverford last fall for the CC XC championship race. Beautiful campus and area.
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Yeah when my daughter ran division 3 academics was a priority... no practices before a certain time so no cutting into class time... but crossing over that line from class room to field house was a really good stress reliever... they always had many academic all Americans and I remember the woman's team had a streak of multiple semesters with every team member maintaining higher than a 3.0
That is definitely the thing I like about DIII. Academics doesn't take a back seat to athletics.
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Christ you're annoying
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that's what she said!
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Rochey, I love you.
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Rochey, I love you.
LOL I just came in to check to see if my mod powers had been stripped!
Back atcha!
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:e) I missed the race. :(
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I was never a fan of the "3 miles easy" form of daily thread ... that's the kinda shorthanded note-taking bullshit you use for your fitness app
I always wanted more narrative = what did you see? How was the weather? did any interesting thoughts come across while you were in the zone?
For instance, things have been getting pretty dim on the Damn Patrol lately, with sunrise not happening until just after I've gotten home now [6:38 this particular AM]
That being said, when you see someone with bright yellow hair, it kinda gets your attention. Not blonde mind you, but Safety Lemon [I thought it was a hat at first]
Contrasting the bright hair was a black shirt, with a red & white image on the front. I couldn't make it out at first, since my specs were a little fogged, but I picked up fairly quickly that the red was the * used by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, with their name around it
As I passed, I noticed that the neon yellow-haired pedestrian was, in fact, a woman, who appeared to be in her 70s. On top of that, the black shirt had a B&W band pic on the back, indicating to me that this wasn't just a random Hot Topic or Target purchase, but legit RHCP merch
OK, if could have been a flea market or thrift store find, but either way, rock on grandmom!!!
I was a little grumpy that day so sorry to the frequent users of the daily threads.
That said, I like more of the bigger picture stuff, putting things in perspective, as well as yeah stuff that you mention.
Hey next post would be 100 - when was the last time this sub had a thread with 100 posts?
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Thanks for bringing this over the top!
I would have thought the backwards walking super mom infringing on the hell bent hardcore triathlete may have exceed 100 but guess not. It's still my favorite WTF incident of the decade. Yeah we might have hit 100 a couple times ca. 2010-12 when kemibe and others were still here.