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Running => Running => Topic started by: merigayle on April 29, 2015, 09:06:04 AM

Title: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: merigayle on April 29, 2015, 09:06:04 AM
So I posted a bunch of photos from my race this weekend from the Marathon Foto site to my FB page. It said "proof" across the photos (i was able to remove the watermark). A pic of my pace partner and I that was pretty awesome had a bit of discourse on my page. She said she wanted to buy that one and i said, well i would split it with you, how much? $25  :e) For ONE picture. Then the discussion devolved into stealing photos, piracy, etc. I feel like if the pics were $5 each I would have no problem shelling over $25 to them for their digital photos, but $25 for one? no way. Opinions? It was an interesting discussion.
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: Eco Ellen on April 29, 2015, 09:09:44 AM
Well, you stole the pic.  Just because you don't like the price doesn't make it right.
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: nadra's babydaddy on April 29, 2015, 09:14:15 AM
I just take selfies of myself when I'm finishing now.  Much easier than dealing with extortionists!  8)
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: Eco Ellen on April 29, 2015, 09:28:42 AM
Sharing PROOFs has generated almost as much debate in the Running Community as stretching and headphones

For the [nearly] definitive discussion on the subject, I go to Mark Remy at Runners World

http://www.runnersworld.com/fun/is-sharing-proof-photos-ok (http://www.runnersworld.com/fun/is-sharing-proof-photos-ok)

http://www.runnersworld.com/fun/photo-sharing-what-ive-learned (http://www.runnersworld.com/fun/photo-sharing-what-ive-learned)

http://www.runnersworld.com/fun/photo-sharing-what-the-law-says (http://www.runnersworld.com/fun/photo-sharing-what-the-law-says)

It sounded to me like she removed the watermark.  The word "proof" IS the watermark on marathonfoto pix.  Unless I'm missing something.

The terms of use on marathonfoto do say that the pix are only to be used on their site.  If you wanted to share proofs you could just provide a link to the pix you like on their site.
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: merigayle on April 29, 2015, 09:56:14 AM
No I removed the scrolling watermark, NOT the "proof" across the picture. I shared it on FB. I did not print it up and post it on my mantle.
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: Eco Ellen on April 29, 2015, 10:06:22 AM
No I removed the scrolling watermark, NOT the "proof" across the picture. I shared it on FB. I did not print it up and post it on my mantle.

Oh, those are fairly easy to remove - once you screen capture them they disappear automatically. 

At any rate, I think the terms of marathonfoto are that you have to keep proofs only on their site.  Sharing them on social media is not allowed.
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: Fast Eddie on April 29, 2015, 10:23:31 AM
I usually end up ordering photos from the official marathon photographers in about half my marathon races.  I try to get a photo taken on my camera after the race, but if the photo I take isn't great or the photo they take is particularly good, and they do set up at prime photo op locations, I will bite the bullet and order the cheapest 8 x 10 option.  Obviously the photo service has costs in terms of website setup and data storage of all the photos, materials and I'm guessing commission to the photog who took the photo.  Dinging race participants is another sport these days.  Hello $255 for entry into NYC Marathon for U.S. residents and $347 for international runners (not including the $11 lottery fee).
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: Belgian Lace on April 29, 2015, 10:27:51 AM
I don't share the photos, mostly because they're not mine but also because they're so terrible.

I would buy them if they weren't so fucking expensive; over the past ten years and elebenty bazillion races, I've bought exactly two:  my first marathon finish and one last year that was so awful I had to use it as my holiday card.
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: merigayle on April 29, 2015, 10:34:24 AM
I don't share the photos, mostly because they're not mine but also because they're so terrible.

I would buy them if they weren't so fucking expensive; over the past ten years and elebenty bazillion races, I've bought exactly two:  my first marathon finish and one last year that was so awful I had to use it as my holiday card.
That is my feeling. If they were $5 a picture, I would easily buy 5 of them, but $25 a pic? No way. The articles posted are a good read, thanks!
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: merigayle on April 29, 2015, 12:28:45 PM
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=4911124 (http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=4911124)

There are a couple of posts in here that say those two things

1) Overall, the quality isn't very good
2) People that race a lot, don't need a pic from every race
Seems like similar discussion and opinions that I had. If they were cheaper would buy them. At most ultras I run,you get the photos for free! LOL.
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: Handsome Jack on April 29, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
It's a pic of me, I don't give it a second thought.
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: radial on April 29, 2015, 01:47:51 PM
It's a pic of me, I don't give it a second thought.

Yep, my modeling fee is a lot higher than their picture fee.  It's actually doing them a favor :D
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: Ice Cream on April 29, 2015, 08:43:21 PM
Do they even have the right put your pic up on their website without your permission?
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: Eco Ellen on April 30, 2015, 06:33:03 AM
Do they even have the right put your pic up on their website without your permission?

Yes.
Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: Mom of Scooby on April 30, 2015, 07:23:29 AM
I don't often buy them but if it's something really good and special I will.. Like that pic of Gwen and me finishing Maui at the exact same time..

If you wait the price will probably go down


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Title: Re: Marathon Foto discussion
Post by: merigayle on April 30, 2015, 11:03:10 AM
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