Sabbatical

[tenacious1]

sabbatical -- a break or change from a normal routine (as of employment)

I think I'll hang out in the Open Pub for a week or two hoping things calm down in yammering. It's going to be lonely. 

[tenacious1]

Maybe I'll do a little decorating while I'm here.

[tenacious1]

[diablita]

pretty great beer map

I'm sorry you're not feeling comfortable over there right now.  I've been off the board for the past couple of days and assume it's because of the election results, but hopefully nobody has targeted you personally?

[tenacious1]

Only one rather pointed exchange but I rally don't think it was personal. Many are very hurt right now and IMO need some time to process it. I don't think my presence has-been helpful to that.

It will be okay.

I just need the time and energy to make this a fun refuge for those who need a break from the processing. 

[siamesedream]

I'll have to update some dusty sports threads.

[ZiggyStardust]

Oh! Is this where deplorables are exiled to? The Island of Misfit Yammerers?
Or is it like the top-secret food forum hideout?



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[radial]

Hello, deplorables . 

[ZiggyStardust]

Hello, deplorables .

radial!!!! Welcome back!
Ima go over to Yammering and claim I Beetlejuiced you back here!!


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[siamesedream]

 

[tenacious1]

Hello, deplorables . 

Excellent! I was hoping some right wing crazies would show up to keep me company. What have you been up to lately?

[radial]

Excellent! I was hoping some right wing crazies would show up to keep me company. What have you been up to lately?

Work, exercise, getting my bees ready for winter, learning to fly (just starting out on that adventure).  Looks like no one at CHrunners was paying attention to the election?  I kid!  I don't think I can wade through all those threads, so I'll just hang out here for a while, with the occasional foray into Yammerland. 

[ZiggyStardust]

How does one get bees ready for winter?
Knitting tiny scarves?


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[radial]

Basically, you tuck them in for a long Winter's nap.  They need enough food to last until Spring, so you make sure they have it.  If they don't have enough honey stores, you add frames from hives with more than enough or make arrangements to feed them over the Winter.  They also need to stay warm and dry.  30,000 bees clustered up in a hive generate a lot of moisture.  If it condenses on the cold ceiling of the hive and drips down on the bees, it can chill and kill them.  I built something called a "quilt box" that goes on top of the hive in place of the usual cover.  It's a ventilated  frame full of wood shavings that insulates the ceiling of the hive so it doesn't get cold enough to condense the water vapor into an icy shower.  The wood shavings soak up excess moisture and wick it out the ventilations ports.  Also, this time of year, field mice are looking for a nice cozy place to hang out.  A beehive is a perfect mouse motel once the bees cluster up and aren't defending the hive entrance.  So part of winterizing is installing a grating over the hive entrance with holes big enough to let the bees come and go but small enough to keep the rodents out.  Couple of other things, but that's most of the process 

[tenacious1]

Is this your first winter with the bees?

I'm only opening non-political threads in the CH. It's been crazy over there since the election -- and not in a good way.

I caught most of Trump's interview on 60 minutes last night and it was good. I am hopeful that what he said on LGBT issues will calm a lot of people down.

[radial]

Yes, first Winter with my bees.  I'm trying not to do them too much damage as I figure out this beekeeping thing.  Fortunately, they are pretty resourceful critters, so I'm hoping they'll survive any errors on my part.

I should probably do the same with the socio-political threads.  But you know me

[radial]

How does one get bees ready for winter?
Knitting tiny scarves?

[tenacious1]

Maybe we could have right wing political discussions over here. I've been watching the new administration take shape and so far I'm cautiously optimistic.

[Mrtambourineman]

Maybe we could have right wing political discussions over here. I've been watching the new administration take shape and so far I'm cautiously optimistic.

Ya, probably not the best idea. 

[tenacious1]

Ya, probably not the best idea. 

I thought it would be a nice compromise to discussing things over there. It doesn't seem fair that all right leaning discussions should be off limits.

[Mrtambourineman]

I thought it would be a nice compromise to discussing things over there. It doesn't seem fair that all right leaning discussions should be off limits.

You are right.  Its not.  Maybe I'm naive, but I think tone is probably the biggest factor in the success or not of a "political" or philosophical discussion and that if everyone responded in a respectful manner a good discourse could be had.  Unfortunately things seem to get emotional and immature on both sides and everything goes to hell.   

[siamesedream]

So, how about dem Flyers?


The orange and Black is back!


Just kidding

[ihop]

pretty great beer map

I'm sorry you're not feeling comfortable over there right now.  I've been off the board for the past couple of days and assume it's because of the election results, but hopefully nobody has targeted you personally?

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Sorry Tenacious.  To be honest, I am not really comfortable there either right now.  And I voted for HRC! 

 

[tenacious1]

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Sorry Tenacious.  To be honest, I am not really comfortable there either right now.  And I voted for HRC! 

 

Well I've honestly had enough of politics for now. I was blindsided by the election results and it was tough not to be able to process that in the CH. But I'm finally getting my head wrapped around a Trump presidency. So I'm done "processing" the election.

How can we turn this place into a great blow off steam, cut loose and have a little fun place -- without stomping on anyone's toes?

DH and I have been enjoying a number of craft beers lately. It looks like I lean heavily toward pilsners -- and there's a whole lot of beer out there I have yet to explore.

[ZiggyStardust]

I've had enough of politics, too. Or rather, I don't always personally like the tenor of discussions here (and how easily and obviously the same people get their cranks yanked again and again and again. Maybe it's closing-in-on-two-decades working with middle schoolers, but I'm baffled by people whose buttons can be so obviously pushed...some of these yammerers would be eaten alive by some of the kids I've known )

Beer is a weekend-only indulgence for me, but I'm very particular about what I like: the hoppier the better!


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[monster2]

Erm, Ziggy. I love ya, but you get what you get when you are the button pusher.

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[ZiggyStardust]

Erm, Ziggy. I love ya, but you get what you get when you are the button pusher.

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I tend to push *back*.



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[monster2]

Yes, you push back, but sometimes you are the first little finger reaching for the button.

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[ZiggyStardust]

Yes, you push back, but sometimes you are the first little finger reaching for the button.

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And sometimes I start harmless threads and am accused of nonexistent nefarious motives.
Can't change a closed mind, so honi soit qui mal y pense to those who would jump to negative conclusions.


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[monster2]

"Sometimes", it's ok to be a shit stirrer.

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[tenacious1]

Stop that! 

7 year old: Dad, do trees poop?

Dad: Sure.

7 year old: Really?

Dad: Why do you think they call them "No. 2 pencils"?

[Mrtambourineman]

Stop that! 

7 year old: Dad, do trees poop?

Dad: Sure.

7 year old: Really?

Dad: Why do you think they call them "No. 2 pencils"?

snigger.  I like a lot of beer styles, but I tend to not care for Belgian style beers.  Particularly the fruit beers, but I'm not a huge fan of Saisson's either.  I love IPA's, Bitters, Lagers, Pale Ales, ESB's, Pilsners, Hefeweizens.  I don't mind a good Radler on a hot summers day.  I can enjoy a stout too in the right conditions.  Not so bit on Cream Ales.

I am finding however that I get the worst hangovers from too much draft beer.   

[Suesquatch]

Hey, I flounced from my own site.  I don't reach the righteous fury expected of me.

[radial]

Hey, I flounced from my own site.  I don't reach the righteous fury expected of me.

[tenacious1]

Hey, I flounced from my own site.  I don't reach the righteous fury expected of me.

I saw that. I was glad you spoke up because I felt it would be inappropriate for me to say anything.

[Suesquatch]

And the posse of perfection is ignoring me. I started a thread about my mom and no one except the addressee even responded.  And someone deleted the thread.

[Suesquatch]

And we have to speak up.    People are being ganged up on and run off.  It's wrong. 

[ZiggyStardust]

I've been told that people only leave this place of their own volition...



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[ihop]

And the posse of perfection is ignoring me. I started a thread about my mom and no one except the addressee even responded.  And someone deleted the thread.

Wait, what?  I haven't been on much at all.

[tenacious1]

And we have to speak up.    People are being ganged up on and run off.  It's wrong. 

The "cool ethan" thread is still there. It's near the bottom of the page. Was there another one? I didn't post in that one b/c I couldn't add anything to CE's MCD experience/advice. You guys are still on my prayer list.

I will work on speaking up. Some seem so hurt that they don't even realize they're taking things too far.

[tenacious1]

Sue -- Did you get your mom moved to TX? I remember your planning but I don't remember it actually happening.

[radial]

And the posse of perfection is ignoring me. I started a thread about my mom and no one except the addressee even responded.  And someone deleted the thread.

I don't know about your Mom because I never saw the thread, but I'm assuming it's health related and I'm sorry.  How did your thread get deleted?  Wouldn't that require admin privileges? 

[Suesquatch]

The originator or a mod can. 

Never got her here. She goes home this week and I'm okay with it. 

[ZiggyStardust]

posse of perfection

I do like this phrase.
And bucket of insufferables.


Sorry about all your family stuff, Sue. I don't have any experience or advice that could help, and I'm not one to just post or
My cynical New England mind finds that hollow--I guess I'm a mansplainer at heart and want to offer help (unless it's a situation where a good quip is called for...)


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[tenacious1]

The originator or a mod can. 

Never got her here. She goes home this week and I'm okay with it. 

  Back with your sister?

[Suesquatch]

Yup.  She actually realizes that shr drank herself into the hospital. Cross your fingers that she remembers.

[ihop]

Oh Sue. 

[tenacious1]

Yup.  She actually realizes that shr drank herself into the hospital. Cross your fingers that she remembers.

 

[monster2]

Sorry Sue, your flounce was impressive though! I will tell you the same thing, actually I won't use the exact words but don't let them run you off.
I did also see your other thread I just had nothing helpful to add, I know probably some support it wouldn't have hurt.

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[Suesquatch]

I do wish i stopped back to see thevreaction. Now, anyway. I was very hurt.

[radial]

I do wish i stopped back to see thevreaction. Now, anyway. I was very hurt.

Don't look back.  People say shit when you aren't around and they feel like they can talk about you in the third person with impunity.  It's not worth your time or energy to read that stuff. 

[tenacious1]

Don't look back.  People say shit when you aren't around and they feel like they can talk about you in the third person with impunity.  It's not worth your time or energy to read that stuff. 

Some people. Not everyone.

[ihop]

Some people. Not everyone.

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[Coyote Mas Loco]

Hey, I flounced from my own site.  I don't reach the righteous fury expected of me.

Wait, what? When?

[Coyote Mas Loco]

sabbatical -- a break or change from a normal routine (as of employment)

I think I'll hang out in the Open Pub for a week or two hoping things calm down in yammering. It's going to be lonely. 

This might be an unprecedented time, so the tenor might not change in a week or two, or even two more months. In other words poo will be flung far and wide for quite some time.

That said, just coming off of a long sabbatical, weren't we in mid conversation over US Cycling Pro Challenge (now defunct) when I up and left?  I just couldn't take the heat.

[RioG]

Wait, what? When?

yes, i want to know too!

Susie Q, we luvs ya!!

it's rare i bother with the political threads so i missed it.

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[Suesquatch]

Thanks, rio.

[tenacious1]

yes, i want to know too!

Susie Q, we luvs ya!!

it's rare i bother with the political threads so i missed it.

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CTW started a thread with I just checked. The sky is not and will not be falling. His comment was not well received at all.
http://chrunners.net/forum/index.php?topic=111765.msg2720645#msg2720645

There is a distinct absence of political threads in the CH this morning. I think maybe a number of posters have decided to take their ball and play elsewhere.

[tenacious1]

This might be an unprecedented time, so the tenor might not change in a week or two, or even two more months. In other words poo will be flung far and wide for quite some time.

That said, just coming off of a long sabbatical, weren't we in mid conversation over US Cycling Pro Challenge (now defunct) when I up and left?  I just couldn't take the heat.

BTW -- Welcome back. You've been missed.

The collapse of the US Cycling Pro Challenge was a surprise -- at least to me. I think the Pro sport of cycling may collapse, too. When I last checked cycling news there were articles about the corrupt practice among the Italian teams of paying to get on the team, Thomas Dekker's doping practices, Cancellara's retirement -- and hints that he may not have ridden clean even though he never tested positive. That's on top of the motors in bikes scandals of earlier this year. Even I've given up being a fan.

I need to go read your Race Event post. 

[Coyote Mas Loco]

BTW -- Welcome back. You've been missed.

The collapse of the US Cycling Pro Challenge was a surprise -- at least to me. I think the Pro sport of cycling may collapse, too. When I last checked cycling news there were articles about the corrupt practice among the Italian teams of paying to get on the team, Thomas Dekker's doping practices, Cancellara's retirement -- and hints that he may not have ridden clean even though he never tested positive. That's on top of the motors in bikes scandals of earlier this year. Even I've given up being a fan.

I need to go read your Race Event post. 

Ahh thanks.
There was a lot of talk last  year and this year about the US Pro Challenge, and I guess they just couldn't turn a profit even though the entire state was behind it. They are talking about bringing back a smaller scale event, probably based in Denver-Boulder only (not all around the state, and region) with races "spoking out" to outlying areas but most if not all of the finishes in the cities. Hear you as far as drugs and corruption, I don't follow cycling closely but it's there in other sports as well. I'd definitely go to some races if they had them here again.

[ZiggyStardust]

There is a distinct absence of political threads in the CH this morning. I think maybe a number of posters have decided to take their ball and play elsewhere.

Yes! Those who disdain "brain farts" must be gnashing their teeth


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[ihop]

BTW -- Welcome back. You've been missed.

The collapse of the US Cycling Pro Challenge was a surprise -- at least to me. I think the Pro sport of cycling may collapse, too. When I last checked cycling news there were articles about the corrupt practice among the Italian teams of paying to get on the team, Thomas Dekker's doping practices, Cancellara's retirement -- and hints that he may not have ridden clean even though he never tested positive. That's on top of the motors in bikes scandals of earlier this year. Even I've given up being a fan.

I need to go read your Race Event post. 

I think part of my problem is I don't have time to keep up with it all!  All of the accusations, the team issues, the doping, etc.  I LOVE cycling but following it is exhausting!

[ihop]

There is a distinct absence of political threads in the CH this morning. I think maybe a number of posters have decided to take their ball and play elsewhere.

I don't want people to leave here. I just wanted the threads to have a different tone. 

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Quick update on the cycling front.

My son finished his 3rd year of club cycling for his university and they won their conference meet last year. However the season was marred by the tragic death of a cyclist from another team who crashed in a race on a treacherous downhill. That was scary.

The young woman I coached last year moved on to be with a professional cycling coach, and then she moved back east so not sure how it went this year.

[tenacious1]

I don't want people to leave here. I just wanted the threads to have a different tone. 

I think things are still shaking out. If they want to have a conversation that's all left all the time they will be happier elsewhere. But even if they want that the CH is still a good place with old friends and shared experiences. Maybe they'll split their time and find a happy balance between the two places -- if there even are two places. That was a total guess on my part.

[radial]

I think things are still shaking out. If they want to have a conversation that's all left all the time they will be happier elsewhere. But even if they want that the CH is still a good place with old friends and shared experiences. Maybe they'll split their time and find a happy balance between the two places -- if there even are two places. That was a total guess on my part.

You can spin yourself a cozy little alternative universe on FB where the only people you interact with are kindred spirits and the only ideas you have to consider are the ones you already agree with. 

[siamesedream]

We need somebody to make this place great again!

[ZiggyStardust]

We need somebody to make this place great again!

I'd try, but I'm a divisive soul deserving of derision for not being part of the Fakebook machine...


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[tenacious1]

You can spin yourself a cozy little alternative universe on FB where the only people you interact with are kindred spirits and the only ideas you have to consider are the ones you already agree with. 

So that's the deal. That may be a good place for them to bond and heal.

[siamesedream]

So that's the deal. That may be a good place for them to bond and heal.

did someone flounce?


I'm always the last to know.

[Mrtambourineman]

You can spin yourself a cozy little alternative universe on FB where the only people you interact with are kindred spirits and the only ideas you have to consider are the ones you already agree with. 

and we only get fed the real and fake news that agrees with our world view. 

[Suesquatch]

I just don't like self-righteous.

[tenacious1]

did someone flounce?


I'm always the last to know.

I don't think it's a flounce. By the lack of new political threads from left leaning posters who have been up in arms about the changes from the recent election, it appears they've taken the political discussions elsewhere. Things are still working themselves out. It will take some time but I think things will be okay.

[tenacious1]

I just don't like self-righteous.

Sue -- Do you think I went too far?

[Suesquatch]

You?    No, I've never seen that in you.

[tenacious1]

Okay. Thanks. It will be okay.

[caito]

None of us liberals have flounced. We have plenty of threads and I personally have really appreciated them. But when Tom shows up and shits all over them...well I don't engage with him.

[tenacious1]

I totally understand and agree with that sentiment. I ignore his posts, too.

[ihop]

None of us liberals have flounced. We have plenty of threads and I personally have really appreciated them. But when Tom shows up and shits all over them...well I don't engage with him.

Absolutely.

[wherestheportojohn]

Okay. Thanks. It will be okay.

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