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Not Running => Food => Topic started by: cindyleigh on March 28, 2013, 03:19:11 PM
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Today is my second day trying out this kind of blended "green" drink. Since I never seem to be able to get my servings of fruit and veggies in, or fiber for that matter, this seems like a good approach.
I don't have a Vitamix but I have a decent Osterizer blender (wedding gift 10+ years ago).
Attempt #1:
1 carrot
1 banana
1 kiwi
scoop yogurt
~1/3 cup high fiber cereal
it was quite clumpy and chalky ....but marginally edible
Attempt #2
small handful of mixed greens
1 carrot
1 apple
much smaller scoop of yogurt
a bit of honey
and water - probably 2 cups
it was better at first, but by the time I got in my car and hit the road (I was planning to drink it on the way to work) it had separated a bit and was foamy on the top and watery on the bottom.
Are you supposed to drink this immediately? Even using the Vitamix will the ingredients separate? With Attempt #2 I drank 1/3 immediately and it was pretty good but the separated stuff was NOT very tasty. The top part tasted like veggie baby food and bottom liquid portion tasted like honey in lukewarm water.
I'd like to include fiber but maybe the dried cereal isn't a good idea. How about adding Metamucil or some other dietary fiber?
Do you need to add some kind of fat or oil to make it more like an emulsion?
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hmmm. i would try grinding the cereal before adding the wet ingredients, so it is like flour, that is what i do with oatmeal.
Yeah, drink the drinks immediately. You can also get a blender cup, which is a big cup with this metal ball thing inside that when you shake the cup it mixes your drink. I find the more cold, the better. Spinach worked for me, but kale was still too bitter.
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Blenders like the Vitamix and Blendtec do a much better job of pulverizing things than the old Osterizers. So, it might very well be an equipment issue. Meri's suggestion to do things in two stages is a good one. If I put flax seeds in a smoothy, I use a few pulses of the blender to turn them into flour before adding the soft/wet ingredients. If you just threw them in with everything else, I think you would be picking whole flax seeds out of your teeth all day long.
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A carrot, apple, and cereal are definitely going to add a lot of bulk. I haven't done well with apples in my smoothie. My green smoothie is usually a bannana, frozen berries, yogurt, two big handfuls of spinach, and then water to thin to my desired consistency. I do sometimes at wheat bran for add'l fiber. This is all about 300cal. I have a pretty good blender, but I think you really need smething like a vitamix to get things like carrot and apple really smooth.
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Thanks! Maybe once I blow the engine on the Osterizer I can get a Vitamix (its my birthday in May). They are shockingly pricey!
On a "green smoothie" website lots of folks recommend adding protein powder. Have you all tried Whole Foods 365 Whey Protein Powder? It has good reviews. Can't I buy already ground flax seeds?
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You can buy ground flax :)
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And I really want a good blender so I can jump on the green smoothie thing. For now if I stick to berries, banana and baby spinach my little thing does ok.
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Have you all tried Whole Foods 365 Whey Protein Powder? It has good reviews.
I've got a tub of it in the pantry. Works great in smoothies.
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Thanks! Maybe once I blow the engine on the Osterizer I can get a Vitamix (its my birthday in May). They are shockingly pricey!
On a "green smoothie" website lots of folks recommend adding protein powder. Have you all tried Whole Foods 365 Whey Protein Powder? It has good reviews. Can't I buy already ground flax seeds?
I don't know anything about brands or anything, but a friend added chocolate protein powder to waffles, and that was ok.
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I got the Vitamix a t Costco. It turned apples into liquid (cored). DD always wants one in her smoothie.
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That amount of vegetables/fruit is going to require a lot of water or it will be way thick or separate; if you do them that think you have to drink pretty quickly. I had good success with portioning everything out and freezing; much better success with cold or frozen stuff plus it allowed me to break up the fruits and veggies into better serving sizes.
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Attempt #3 was much better.
1/2 scoop vanilla protein powder (Whole Foods brand)
1 tblspoon ground flax seed (Whole Foods brand)
1 med carrot
handfull of mixed greens
1 kiwi
1/2 cup frozen fruit
blob of yogurt
a few almonds
about 6 oz water
I blended the carrot and almonds first, then added everything else and blended longer, 1 min or so. I put it into an insulated travel thing and it kept nice and cool and didn't separate on the drive to work. Next time I'll skip the almonds, they didn't quite blend in well. I could go with more greens and less frozen fruit (although it was very tasty this way). I suppose I should figure out the calories.
Most mornings I have toast or cereal for breakfast and I am really hungry by 11:30 or so (and if I have lunch that early then I am too hungry at dinner and eat too much). Although my stomach was rumbling even after I drank this, once I got absorbed in work I didn't really get hungry until 1pm and I held off until 1:30 for lunch. I think the extra fiber and protein help.
I couldn't find Kefir at Whole Foods last night ...but I'd like to try that or some probiotic yogurt once my current tub is used up.
I could taste the vanilla from the protein powder but it wasn't too overwhelming. They don't seem to have a plain flavor, just vanilla or chocolate.
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You are gonna want a vitamix soon :D
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You are gonna want a vitamix soon :D
:D
I made a smoothie on Saturday after I got mine, and it was just frozen berries, yogurt (greek), a little lemon juice for a kick, and water, and it was awesome. I was amazed at the difference in consistency of even those things that in my old blender. SO smooth. I bought spinach to try in there, but since I was testing it out, and DH wanted to try it, I didn't put it in this time. Next time for sure. I'm also going to add some oats for fiber.
I bought bananas, too, so that I can make up some banana fro-yo type stuff. Meri, you've done that, right? How does it work? Do the bananas need to be frozen?
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:D
I made a smoothie on Saturday after I got mine, and it was just frozen berries, yogurt (greek), a little lemon juice for a kick, and water, and it was awesome. I was amazed at the difference in consistency of even those things that in my old blender. SO smooth. I bought spinach to try in there, but since I was testing it out, and DH wanted to try it, I didn't put it in this time. Next time for sure. I'm also going to add some oats for fiber.
I bought bananas, too, so that I can make up some banana fro-yo type stuff. Meri, you've done that, right? How does it work? Do the bananas need to be frozen?
I think if you don't freeze the bananas, you end up with banana baby food. :)
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I bought bananas, too, so that I can make up some banana fro-yo type stuff. Meri, you've done that, right? How does it work? Do the bananas need to be frozen?
You can also do this with other frozen fruit like berries, peaches, etc.
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I think if you don't freeze the bananas, you end up with banana baby food. :)
:D That would make sense!
In the cookbook there are recipes for sorbet and stuff, yum!
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Well, I calculated the calories this morning and it is a bit high - 430 calories ... I made a whole blender full (two solid servings ...and I drank both). But I can work on paring this down.
This morning's smoothie:
2 medium carrots (70 cal)
2 cups mixed greens (20 cal)
2 tbls ground flax seed (80 cal)
1 scoop whey powder (80 cal)
1/2 cup nonfat yogurt (80 cal)
1 cup mixed frozen fruit (100 cal)
2 cups water
I harvested a bunch of chard from my garden and chopped that up ....NOT baby chard, this is mature chard ...chopped up ribs and all. Also harvested beet tops. All that went into my "green salad mix" tub. Then in an inspired moment I planted some kale and spinach next to the chard so in a few months I should have a little "smoothie" garden to harvest greens. I had to yank the fennel to make room ...but I never use it.
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Yes, peel and cut the bananas before freezing. I also took frozen mango and a little almond milk and it was like mango froyo. Yum
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God i want one!
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God i want one!
...I will admit, I broke down and bought one... What the heck; we're getting money back from the IRS this year, and any way to get more veggies into all of our diets is a good thing.
Haven't used it yet, though--it was delivered last Friday, but the in-laws were around all weekend. Goodness knows they don't need another thing to add to their ongoing commentary of complaints, so I was hesitant to start it up when they were around. I can't wait to try it out this week!! The recipe book (a Mitt Romney-esque binder!!) that came with it has SO MANY things to try.
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All the vitamxes one with different books (per model), did anyone get the raw and vegan one?
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All the vitamxes one with different books (per model), did anyone get the raw and vegan one?
I'll go look in mine. I haven't opened it yet.
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Well, I calculated the calories this morning and it is a bit high - 430 calories ...
This is why I wouldn't buy one. Too easy to consume too many calories. I would much rather eat my calories. :)
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This is why I wouldn't buy one. Too easy to consume too many calories. I would much rather eat my calories. :)
.....at least they are "good calories". The carrots alone are 70 cal.
But I will need to be mindful of it!
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This is why I wouldn't buy one. Too easy to consume too many calories. I would much rather eat my calories. :)
I mostly agree with this. I have to be really careful about smoothies because it's easy to just keep throwing stuff in. I always wonder about the ones I see where people are adding peanut butter, and yogurt, and ground flax...and I'm thinking...uh... you knw that's like 1,000 calories, right? But, in the summer sometimes I need to seat something and nothing sounds appealing (like after a run)... or a banana, berries, and yogurt is what I would eat for my snack anyway, but it sounds more appealing blended up. But it's REALLY easy to go from 200 calories to 400 calories in a snap and I am always really careful about measuring everything.
Oh, another thing is that I buy 0% yogurt just for smoothies. I really dont notice the 2% vs 0% thing in a smoothie so that buys a few extra calories.
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If you are drinking them for veggies you don't have to put all that protein powder and almonds and stuff in them. I drink them to get more greens because I find it a slog to eat so much salad and so I just put 4 cups of greens with half a cup of kefir some grated ginger and water as needed. Sometimes half a cup of frozen berries if I am feeling wild. That keeps it to less than 100 calories.
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This is why I wouldn't buy one. Too easy to consume too many calories. I would much rather eat my calories. :)
Same here. And I do not have trouble eating veggies.
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I mostly agree with this. I have to be really careful about smoothies because it's easy to just keep throwing stuff in. I always wonder about the ones I see where people are adding peanut butter, and yogurt, and ground flax...and I'm thinking...uh... you knw that's like 1,000 calories, right? But, in the summer sometimes I need to seat something and nothing sounds appealing (like after a run)... or a banana, berries, and yogurt is what I would eat for my snack anyway, but it sounds more appealing blended up. But it's REALLY easy to go from 200 calories to 400 calories in a snap and I am always really careful about measuring everything.
Oh, another thing is that I buy 0% yogurt just for smoothies. I really dont notice the 2% vs 0% thing in a smoothie so that buys a few extra calories.
Yeah, adding in PB really gets you up there fast!!
I sometimes do one (for breakfast) that is a banana (100ish calories), 1 T PB (90 cal), oats (120 or so?) and ice & water. For 300ish calories it's pretty filling, actually.
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This morning I did 1/4 cup nonfat yogurt instead of 1/2, so that reduced the cal. a bit but then I added a banana and some frozen pomegranate juice....so the fruit brought it back up to 450 cal.
2 medium carrots (70 cal)
2 cups mixed greens (20 cal)
2 tbls ground flax seed (80 cal)
1 scoop whey powder (80 cal)
1/4 cup nonfat yogurt (40 cal)
1 banana + 2 ice cubes frozen pomegranate juice (160 cal)
2 cups water
....which was discouraging until I read a study about breakfast calories and weight loss done in 2008 (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120207133750.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120207133750.htm)). In the study, 193 obese non-diabetics (this would be me) were randomized to one of two groups. In the female cohort, daily calories were 1400 which included either a 300 calorie breakfast (group 1) or a 600 calorie breakfast (group 2). At the study end 32 weeks later, group 2 participants lost an average of 40 lbs more that group 1 participants!
Okay, and here is the kicker ....group 2 participants not only ate a big breakfast (high in protein and carbs) but it always included a dessert item (like chocolate!).
So you may be wondering ...how come they didn't lose the same amount if they were each restricted to 1400 calories per day? Apparently the group 1 dieters cheated more.
So I'm not going to stress about a 450 calorie breakfast smoothie. I may even top it off with a couple pieces of dark chocolate!
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Caito's nutritionist (nancy clark) told her to be heavier on the calories in the beginning of the day vs the end (dinner) esp if you exercise in the morning.
My smoothie-
1/2 cup soymilk (40)
1/2 cup silken tofu (45)
1 cup berries (85)
1/2 banana (50)
1.5 cups spinach (20)
2/3 cup mango (75)
315cals total.
probably not the most nutritious breakfast i can eat, but i am so sick of oatmeal and scrambled tofu and not really keen on bready breakfasts like pancakes, muffins, etc.
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I would definitely not stress about a 450 calorie smoothie as long as it fits into your overall caloric consumption and keeps you as full as you need to be. 450 calories that carries you well through to your next meal time is not a problem at all! Satiety is a huge part of sucessful weightloss. So, whatever gets you there is what matters.
If I'm restricting calories, I'm typically eating 500 calories or so before lunch. I just do it as a 300 calorie breakfast and then a 200 calorie mid-morning snack rather than all at once.
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I thought I was the only one who believed that calorie intake mattered... I remember someone posted that a calorie was not a calorie in reply to a comment I made.
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I thought I was the only one who believed that calorie intake mattered... I remember someone posted that a calorie was not a calorie in reply to a comment I made.
All I can say is that when I got my caloric intake under control... suddenly my weight took care of itself. ;) Now... getting the calories under control is much easier to do if I'm eating mostly from behind door a (eggs, veggies, limited quantities of specific whole grains) rather than mostly from behind door b (candy, french fries, pizza). But all I can say is that is me... others have different experiences.
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If I'm going to eat too many calories then I guess I'd rather they came from fruits and yogurt then from the bag of chocolate I'd otherwise be reaching for. :D
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If I'm going to eat too many calories then I guess I'd rather they came from fruits and yogurt then from the bag of chocolate I'd otherwise be reaching for. :D
There is a frickin' bag of easter candy hollering at me from my boss's office. >:(
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There is a frickin' bag of easter candy hollering at me from my boss's office. >:(
exactly. My new plan is just to eat whenever I want, but just make sure it's healthy. When I restrict calories I end up eating the whole bag of chocolate covered almonds. I'm starting to look into the whole micronutrients thing to see if that helps.
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exactly. My new plan is just to eat whenever I want, but just make sure it's healthy. When I restrict calories I end up eating the whole bag of chocolate covered almonds. I'm starting to look into the whole micronutrients thing to see if that helps.
You might do well with one of those "eat all you want of these things" diet. I can still get fat on "healthy" food. At some point, I need to put portion control into effect.
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I thought I was the only one who believed that calorie intake mattered... I remember someone posted that a calorie was not a calorie in reply to a comment I made.
I do. I think many people find it easier to stick to their goals when they eat a certain way though.
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I thought I was the only one who believed that calorie intake mattered... I remember someone posted that a calorie was not a calorie in reply to a comment I made.
I don't know of any weight loss program that doesn't, in some way, count calories. They may call them "points" or something else ....but in the end, its energy in vs. energy out and that energy is measured in kcal.
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are smoothies solely for those attempting to lose weight?
i more commonly drink them in the summer when i am running high miles and need both calories and liquids. i don't consider them diet foods - i consider them whole foods, based on what i put in them.
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are smoothies solely for those attempting to lose weight?
i more commonly drink them in the summer when i am running high miles and need both calories and liquids. i don't consider them diet foods - i consider them whole foods, based on what i put in them.
yes - that's how I see them too. I figure it's a good breakfast choice, especially when I like to drink them on the way to work.
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are smoothies solely for those attempting to lose weight?
i more commonly drink them in the summer when i am running high miles and need both calories and liquids. i don't consider them diet foods - i consider them whole foods, based on what i put in them.
There are plenty of smoothie recipes, some are low cal - some are not.
I am trying to lose weight, though. I am also trying to fit more fiber and veggies into my breakfast routine, which usually requires something quick and portable (I do a lot of toast). It is remarkably easy to blend up a smoothie and drink it during my commute.
I generally avoid anything labeled as a "diet food". Even when dieting. They tend to be overly sweet (so as to be lowfat) and overly processed.
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i drink smoothies solely because they are delicious but stay mindful of what is going in so i do not make 1000 calorie delights ;)
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I don't know how you could make a 1000 calorie smoothie... unless you were putting ice cream in?
The ones I make hover around the 350 cal mark - maybe 380. And I was using 10% fat greek yogurt (I buy it for C).
That's one good thing about my little Hamiltion Beach mini-blender thing - it's the size of a travel mug, so it's impossible to put too much in it.
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I thought I was the only one who believed that calorie intake mattered... I remember someone posted that a calorie was not a calorie in reply to a comment I made.
I think you are misremembering.
Not all calories are equal nutritionally and certainly not everyones body deals with calories in the same way but of course a calorie is a calorie.
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...but of course a calorie is a calorie.
Except, of course, when it's a Calorie ;)
(who was it...Quixotic Notions, maybe...who always insisted on the capitalization of the "C" to designate kilocalorie as opposed to plain ol' calorie?)
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(who was it...Quixotic Notions, maybe...who always insisted on the capitalization of the "C" to designate kilocalorie as opposed to plain ol' calorie?)
Ziggy! QN was from times of yore. Extremely yore. Are you an old Kickster in disguise?
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I think if you use a smoothie to replace a meal then you are fine. For me though, I don't want to do this. It feels unsatisfying to me. I want to eat not drink. So if I were using it for snacks, then I know I would go way over my calorie limit for the day.
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I think if you use a smoothie to replace a meal then you are fine. For me though, I don't want to do this. It feels unsatisfying to me. I want to eat not drink. So if I were using it for snacks, then I know I would go way over my calorie limit for the day.
for me, a smoothie is either breakfast or a post long run treat. I occassionally make the frozen banana "ice cream" as my dessert.
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Ziggy! QN was from times of yore. Extremely yore. Are you an old Kickster in disguise?
Long-time lurker. I only really started posting 'cuz Fionn sings so purty (he recorded a cover of Ziggy Stardust to suck me into posting...it worked).
Now, back to Vitamix talk!!
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At some point, I need to put portion control into effect.
Same with me. Not that I have a lot to lose: like the 2-3 pounds I gained this winter... but it won't happen if I don't reduce the # of calories I am taking in.
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are smoothies solely for those attempting to lose weight?
i more commonly drink them in the summer when i am running high miles and need both calories and liquids. i don't consider them diet foods - i consider them whole foods, based on what i put in them.
I am perpetually trying to lose weight, but smoothies for me are often breakfast. Or after a run when it's hot out.
Last night I made one that I split with DH, and it was more of a dessert thing (made from fruit, yogurt and SPINACH). I usually want something sweet at night, and the 150 calories I drank as a smoothie is definitely better for me than a similar amount of chocolate. :D Plus, no way I'd eat only 150 calories of chocolate unless that was exactly how much I had. BTW, I couldn't tell there was spinach in it, and neither could DH. It was delicious!
I know there are differing trains of thought on the calorie issue. I think for most people, reducing calories means eating healthier foods too, so it's really hard to say. I could test it out by eating 1600 in doritos every day for a week, and then 1600 in whole foods for a week, but that's not really that appealing despite my love of doritos. Additionally, when you eat your 1600 calories (example) in whole foods, you will feel more energetic, stay full longer, reduce cravings, etc. But there is some stuff out there that points towards a calorie not being a calorie. I'm not a scientist, so I haven't really taken the time to try and figure it out. But I know that if I'm eating whole foods I tend to eat less overall, and that is certainly a calorie reduction... I think it's Lintu who doesn't really buy the basic calorie=calorie thing?
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Cheryl posted about it in her thread the other day about the book she is following, that your body uses carb calories different.
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I like smoothies as a side or a snack instead of a salad. Sometimes I just do not want to eat another salad. I would not feel full or satisfied with one as a full meal. That is just me though. I like to chew :D I do think smoothie/juicing diets are pretty trendy right now with those documentaries recommending them so I do think lots of people ARE drinking them as a weight loss aid. Of course if you feel satisfied and can stick to your goal it would work for you but I am guessing lots of people are like me and are going to drink them and still want to eat food after. I do see lots of recipes with nuts and coconut milk and flax oil and avocados and stuff. I am sure they are delicious and full of healthy things but they can be high calorie easily.
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They totally fill me up for breakfast and even lunch in a pinch. Probably because they are a shit-load more healthy than the cereal (even the Kashi Go Lean!) that I usually eat.
I was listening to someone on CBC discuss micronutrients, and that's why (green, especially) smoothies are good and filling - because they are giving your body what it needs, whereas if we ate the same # of calories in potatoes, or apples, or doritos, or beer, you are still hungry because you haven't fulfilled your body's nutrition requirements.
I know that sounds like "duh, you didn't know that?!" but somewhere along the way I must have forgotten it. :D I've been very guilty of eating the right # of calories, but they're not good calories. I'm not sure I really believe a calorie is just a calorie.
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They totally fill me up for breakfast and even lunch in a pinch. Probably because they are a shit-load more healthy than the cereal (even the Kashi Go Lean!) that I usually eat.
I was listening to someone on CBC discuss micronutrients, and that's why (green, especially) smoothies are good and filling - because they are giving your body what it needs, whereas if we ate the same # of calories in potatoes, or apples, or doritos, or beer, you are still hungry because you haven't fulfilled your body's nutrition requirements.
I know that sounds like "duh, you didn't know that?!" but somewhere along the way I must have forgotten it. :D I've been very guilty of eating the right # of calories, but they're not good calories. I'm not sure I really believe a calorie is just a calorie.
YEP.
I believe the number of calories definitely matters. It's not like I think I can eat 3000 calories of lean meat, nuts, fruit & veggies and not gain weight. It's that I think I have a bit more leeway on the actual number of calories I eat to maintain/lose when I eat foods like that. Except nuts. I can't NOT overeat salty nuts. :D
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YEP.
I believe the number of calories definitely matters. It's not like I think I can eat 3000 calories of lean meat, nuts, fruit & veggies and not gain weight. It's that I think I have a bit more leeway on the actual number of calories I eat to maintain/lose when I eat foods like that. Except nuts. I can't NOT overeat salty nuts. :D
Yes, this is what I'm thinking too. And I think by eating a slightly higher calorie meal like a smoothie filled with spinach and berries and greek yogurt I will somehow satisfy the evil chocolate covered almond eating machine that I become when I try to "diet".
Anyway, what's the worst that could happen - I stay the same weight but ate a bunch of nutritious food. Oh the shame!
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Maybe it was the years of WW but I feel that vegetable calories "don't count" (with a few exxceptions like avocado, peasm corn, etc) so I never count them in when calculating calorie counts.
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Maybe it was the years of WW but I feel that vegetable calories "don't count" (with a few exxceptions like avocado, peasm corn, etc) so I never count them in when calculating calorie counts.
i do because eveyone always assumes i am not counting accurately or i would lose weight. ;)
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YEP.
I believe the number of calories definitely matters. It's not like I think I can eat 3000 calories of lean meat, nuts, fruit & veggies and not gain weight. It's that I think I have a bit more leeway on the actual number of calories I eat to maintain/lose when I eat foods like that. Except nuts. I can't NOT overeat salty nuts. :D
Well, 3000 calories of lean meat, fruit, and veggies is a LOT of food! I really think that's the main reason that stuff like Atkins works, is because even if you're eating higher fat stuff like cheese and fattier meats, it's kind of tough to overeat calories if you're not eating grains and sugary foods.
And I missed out on saying it before, 450 calories is not that much for breakfast unless you're on a 1200 calorie diet.
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Well, 3000 calories of lean meat, fruit, and veggies is a LOT of food! I really think that's the main reason that stuff like Atkins works, is because even if you're eating higher fat stuff like cheese and fattier meats, it's kind of tough to overeat calories if you're not eating grains and sugary foods.
And I missed out on saying it before, 450 calories is not that much for breakfast unless you're on a 1200 calorie diet.
And a 1200 calorie diet is REALLY LOW. My RD friend says women should never go below 1500. What do you think, Nadra?
MM, I have kind of the same mindset about veggies. DH and I were just talking about this last night, how we need to get back on the WW bandwagon. It's nice to feel like something is "free"... I know that, for me, I get really fucking tired of counting shit (calories, points, etc) so it's kind of nice to think of something as free. Maybe I'll join again. I'm always so torn. I feel like WW encourages me to eat more whole foods, because they are less points, but it also tends to deter me from meat, but without that, I get little protein. So I'm not sure how to proceed.
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I was thinking of going back to WW too, Courtney. It always works best for me. Maybe we can start it together?
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Courtney-- greek yogurt or cottage cheese are REALLY high in protein if you eat dairy.
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I was thinking of going back to WW too, Courtney. It always works best for me. Maybe we can start it together?
I like that idea :)
Meri, I do dairy, so those are both options for me. I'm not giving up meat, by any stretch, but meatless meals are fine with me, especially lunch & breakfast. Dinner will probably need meat, because my DH thinks that is a requirement. :D
I really love that I can fit little treats or occassional splurges into WW. Too much restriction ALWAYS brings on binge eating for me. Without exception. So WW is pretty much a sane way to do it.
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And a 1200 calorie diet is REALLY LOW. My RD friend says women should never go below 1500. What do you think, Nadra?
MM, I have kind of the same mindset about veggies. DH and I were just talking about this last night, how we need to get back on the WW bandwagon. It's nice to feel like something is "free"... I know that, for me, I get really fucking tired of counting shit (calories, points, etc) so it's kind of nice to think of something as free. Maybe I'll join again. I'm always so torn. I feel like WW encourages me to eat more whole foods, because they are less points, but it also tends to deter me from meat, but without that, I get little protein. So I'm not sure how to proceed.
I have always heard not to go below 1200 cals, but you have to be really mindful of what you're eating to make sure you're getting enough protein and stuff. 1500 is more reasonable, unless someone is very short or very sedentary. (Also if you're really short, your protein requirements are lower)
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I can not imagine eating 1200 calories/day. I would die. Or be in a perpetual faint. 1500 I can do, but it has to be the right foods or it's not sustainable. I'm neither tall nor sedentary, though.
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1200-1400 calories is what I have to eat in order to lose or to maintain a proper bmi. Which is why I am fat right now.
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TBH, I think most of us have fucked up our bodies and metabolisms by losing serious amounts of weight. I mean, it's great, but in that process we almost 100% lost lots of muscle, which lowers the number of calories needed to maintain your weight. Lifting big heavy weights is hopefully helping me fix that. I have gained weight, yet my clothes are still pretty much the same size as they were a year ago.
That said, a diet overhaul will be what is needed to see the results of lifting those heavy weights. I just rejoined WW. :)
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I know I advocate 1200 calories as what it took for me to lose weight. I should clarify that the diet I followed suggests this calorie level if your starting weight is between 120 and 160lbs. If you are between 160 and 200 lbs she suggests 1600 calories and if you're over 200lbs; I think it's 1800. This is also a diet only program, so excercise would add additional calories.
Also, rio, with your bf'ing... I would think you would need quite a few more calories than that, regardless.
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It really depends. 1200 for me is not crazy low I do not think but I am pretty petite.
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I don't know that I've ever weighed below 160 in my adult (or even young adult) life.
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I know I advocate 1200 calories as what it took for me to lose weight. I should clarify that the diet I followed suggests this calorie level if your starting weight is between 120 and 160lbs. If you are between 160 and 200 lbs she suggests 1600 calories and if you're over 200lbs; I think it's 1800. This is also a diet only program, so excercise would add additional calories.
Also, rio, with your bf'ing... I would think you would need quite a few more calories than that, regardless.
yeah, it will be intetesting to see what 1500 cal is like when I'm done. Hopefully better because that puts me at 1.5 lbs lost per week in theory.
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I also thought 1200 calories seemed like it was going to be nowhere near enough food. When I first read the meal plans I thought it was a laughably small amount of food. But, what I found was that it was actually plenty. All I can say is that I wasn't hungry, light headed, etc. I'm not someone who does well hungry- that is a recipe for me to end up at the bottom of an ice cream cone. I also don't do well with programs that don't allow me to eat food I enjoy. So, I was really pleasently surprised by this. But, it's clearly not for everyone and I did find that I really struggled when I was needing to eat differently to fuel running and other excercise.
All I can say is that if I didn't cut somewhere (i.e. pratice a little austerity) I wasn't going to lose the weight...period. I decided to trust that this person (who is a phd and dedicates her life to nutrition research- not just some yahoo who wrote a diet book) wasn't developing a plan to damage my metabolism. All I can tell you is that I lost weight and didn't suffer while doing it- which is what I hope for anyone who is looking to lose weight- whatever plan they decide to follow. :)
I found that her plan was a lot like the way I found msyelf eating on WW, but it took all the guesswork out of it for me. I also found myself hoarding poins on WW and didn't really have that problem here. At that point in my life, excercising was difficult to fit in- so a diet plan that was food only worked well for me. I also found that I had a little more time to play with cooking and packing up food. Which, right now, is a little more of a struggle.
The author (she runs a nutrition reasearch lab at tufts) has found that this particular plan is the most efficient/long lasting path to weight loss that she's seen in her lab. But, she also says that even if you just incorperate some of the principles into your eating habits, you can lose that way too. That is what has helped me to keep the weight off, I think, is just incorperating the way of eating into my every day life and definitely feel like I'm in more control.
But... you gotta do what works for you. I picked this plan because I could never get my cravings under control and this helped me figure out strategies to resolve that.
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I just registered for WW again. I think a combo of the i-Diet principals and some of the recipes + WW point tracking works really well for me.
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I just registered for WW again. I think a combo of the i-Diet principals and some of the recipes + WW point tracking works really well for me.
*highfive*
I ate a super lunch. Very WW friendly, filling, and full of veggies! Woop!
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Y'all are making it tempting to go back to WW but I found myself eating very little protein due to the points. And for me, with PCOS and insulin resistance, high protein and lower carbs is super important to losing weight :/
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I feel like the newer WW program emphasizes protein a lot more as a good healthy choice (ie it isnt as much of a points hit as it used to be) but the newer program is also pretty low carb (carbs are very points heavy).
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I feel like the newer WW program emphasizes protein a lot more as a good healthy choice (ie it isnt as much of a points hit as it used to be) but the newer program is also pretty low carb (carbs are very points heavy).
see, this is why I'm so leery of commercial diet programs. It seems they just change to accommodate whatever is kind of the fad diet of the moment.
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They do tweak it a bit, Rio, but not in a big way. Of all the commercial diet programs, I feel WW is pretty good.
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They do tweak it a bit, Rio, but not in a big way. Of all the commercial diet programs, I feel WW is pretty good.
that's good to know.
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They do tweak it a bit, Rio, but not in a big way. Of all the commercial diet programs, I feel WW is pretty good.
I would agree with this. I liked ww because it helped me easily identify where I was wasting lots of points on things that didn't really matter to me. Since I don't have a propensity for things like ff/sf coolwhip- I didn't end up eating a lot of that stuff. I've seen the criticism that WW can be heavy on that stuff... and it CAN be, but only if you make it that way. Otherwise, it really steers you pretty naturally towards lots of produce (free! eat as many as you want!!) and moderate amounts of other stuff.
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I don't remember fruit being free the one time I did WW online.
I'm terrible at tracking food. I find it depressing, not motivating, when I go over "allowed" calories and then I lose steam. That's why I need to just be replacing the junk with healthy food and hope that it all works out naturally. I'm not sure how I wouldn't lose weight if I replace handfuls of chocolate covered almonds with an apple, and salt and vinegar chips with celery and hummus. :D
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Veggies were free when i did WW but not fruit. I would not lose weight, i eat a lot of fruit :D
I just made another yum spinach smoothie, DD none the wise ;)
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Veggies were free when i did WW but not fruit. I would not lose weight, i eat a lot of fruit :D
I just made another yum spinach smoothie, DD none the wise ;)
What are you putting in your smoothies, meri?
I made strawberry/blueberry/greek yogurt/spinach ones last night. Mmmm. You can't even remotely tell there is spinach in there. This weekend I'm going to attempt something else. I just need to get to the store. All I have are berries right now.
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I LOVE spinach
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I don't remember fruit being free the one time I did WW online.
I'm terrible at tracking food. I find it depressing, not motivating, when I go over "allowed" calories and then I lose steam. That's why I need to just be replacing the junk with healthy food and hope that it all works out naturally. I'm not sure how I wouldn't lose weight if I replace handfuls of chocolate covered almonds with an apple, and salt and vinegar chips with celery and hummus. :D
Well... hummus can be pretty calorie dense. Guacamole and hummus both run right around 100 calories per 1/4 cup. So, you might wanna go easy on the hummus. :D
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Well... hummus can be pretty calorie dense. Guacamole and hummus both run right around 100 calories per 1/4 cup. So, you might wanna go easy on the hummus. :D
I could probably eat 10 cups of hummus and not come close to the chip calories. I have a problem with s & v chips.
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my maine coon cat adores hummus.
she is incredibly hefty. be careful, rio! :D
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I could probably eat 10 cups of hummus and not come close to the chip calories. I have a problem with s & v chips.
Oh, yeah, I can't even look s & v chips- they have some kinda power over me!
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my maine coon cat adores hummus.
she is incredibly hefty. be careful, rio! :D
:D
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Oh, yeah, I can't even look s & v chips- they have some kinda power over me!
me too. It's kind of ridiculous.
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my maine coon cat adores hummus.
she is incredibly hefty. be careful, rio! :D
:D
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my maine coon cat adores hummus.
she is incredibly hefty. be careful, rio! :D
I love Maine coon cats! The only cat that would interest me.
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Oh, yeah, I can't even look s & v chips- they have some kinda power over me!
really? I have a small bag in my travel bag and they haven't even called to me yet.
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I was home with a sick kid today and finally had the opportunity to try out the Vitamix... I figured I'd ease in with one of the "getting started" recipes in the binder, and i had grapes, strawberries and a banana (and ice), so I tried a super-straightforward smoothie. Holy cow! Knocks the socks off any blender smoothie I've had. Perfect consistency; delightful flavor (well...not to The Boy...he likes each of the ingredients individually, but he took a sip of the smoothie, pronounced it "good" in an unconvinced/unconvincing tone, and then refused any more). If I only ever made this one type of smoothie, I'd consider the Vitamix worth the $$$. Can't wait to try out more (and more advanced) recipes!
(no I am not a paid advertiser...I was a total skeptic before the Yammering threads...)
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Glad you tried it ziggy!
I put soy milk, raspberries, banana, mango and spinach today, slowly upping spinach, I think I was close to to cups today!
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I need to try mine out before we leave. I just haven't had the time.
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Stop taunting with the delicious goodness of your recipes, people!! ;)
....still saving, saving, saving, for my Vitamix.....
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Wtpj. I love my ninja (for making smoothies).
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Wtpj. I love my ninja (for making smoothies).
Yeah, I think that's the route I'm going to go. It gets great reviews, and realistically that's the only thing I'll be using it for (smoothies).
My cheap Hamilton Beach really does do a fine job, but sometimes I have to add too much water, which makes it more juice like than smoothie like.
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Witchy do you make green smoothies in yours? I bought one but took it back because it didn't work with the greens. Once I read online I saw tons of similar complaints :-\
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I add greens but do not make solely green smoothies. Maybe that is the difference?
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I just made a coffee frappe thingy in the vitamix. Mmmm. No spinach, tho. :D
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:d
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I just made a coffee frappe thingy in the vitamix. Mmmm. No spinach, tho. :D
Tell me more...what did you use and how many calories was it? :)
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I add greens but do not make solely green smoothies. Maybe that is the difference?
Me too, mine s fruit with some spinach hidden in it! I can get 1.5 cups into a 2-2.5 cup smoothie ith no detection by DD. we split it for breakfast.
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Why do you "hide" the spinach in it? Is it because you don't like spinach? Do you put baby spinach in it or regular spinach? Would tis work with frozen spinach, too? I love baby spinach, but it's quite costly.
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I love baby spinach, too. LOVE it.
My usual breakfast is a light bread/bagel (around 100 calories) with a slice of cheese, tomato and lots of fresh, raw spinach.
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Tell me more...what did you use and how many calories was it? :)
I used coffee, about a cup or so of it. Then about a cup of milk (FF). I also used some sugar free caramel syrup (target, 0 cal, made with spelnda), and a tiny bit of hershey syrup. Then I added a bunch of ice cubes. This made an entire blender full somehow. It froths up a lot!!
So I split it with DH, so each one had the calories of half a cup of milk and whatever is in a little hershey syrup. I counted it as 2 pts.
Icecream- about the spinach... I tend to not eat a lot of greens on my own. I like spinach (baby spinach is what I use) just fine, in salads, but I'm not an eat-a-salad-every-day type of girl, really. So I when I whip up a smoothie, I toss 2 handfulls in, and you can't tell. I also split this with my DH, and lord knows he needs the veggies. :D I just figure that if I'm making something like this, putting spinach in it, where it's not detectable, can't hurt. I haven't tried kale yet, as I hear it has a more distinct flavor.
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Why do you "hide" the spinach in it? Is it because you don't like spinach? Do you put baby spinach in it or regular spinach? Would tis work with frozen spinach, too? I love baby spinach, but it's quite costly.
DD likes eating spinach salad but freaked out once when she saw me put it in a smoothie and refused to drink it, so now i make the smoothies while she is off playing or something so she does not see. I use fresh baby spinach. Costco sells a HUGE container of organic baby spinach for $4-5.
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I put green lettuce in mine today. I also love swiss chard in it. Tastes kind of like beets. The kale was too cchunky and I didn't like the taste. You vitamix addicts won't have a problem with that though. I do it because despite my love of gardening it's a lot of work for me to eat enough veggies. If I can make them taste like raspberries it's way easier. :D
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DD likes eating spinach salad but freaked out once when she saw me put it in a smoothie and refused to drink it, so now i make the smoothies while she is off playing or something so she does not see. I use fresh baby spinach. Costco sells a HUGE container of organic baby spinach for $4-5.
I am surprised she does not question what's in there. Do you think she will as she gets older?
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I am surprised she does not question what's in there. Do you think she will as she gets older?
well it tastes just like berries and bananas, so what is there to question? she just assumes that is what is in there.
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I am surprised she does not question what's in there. Do you think she will as she gets older?
I think she's three. Unless she sees/notices it, she's probably not thinking about it. :D
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I think she's three. Unless she sees/notices it, she's probably not thinking about it. :D
exactly! it is pink and it tastes like berries.
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exactly! it is pink and it tastes like berries.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I'd like a smoothie right now. Sadly, my vitamix is at home! :D
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I'd like a smoothie right now. Sadly, my vitamix is at home! :D
I may have, at some time, made my smoothie, put in a big ziplock bag, into a cooler, and brought it into work with me :D
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I may have, at some time, made my smoothie, put in a big ziplock bag, into a cooler, and brought it into work with me :D
Wide mouth mason jars work nicely for this purpose, and are much easier to clean than Nalgene bottles. :)
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A friend from work went on some all smoothie regimen and had a great deal of success with it. I asked her for recipes and will post once I have them.
I use my Vitamix still at least once a day. Most days at least twice. I always throw handfuls of Spinach in and, now, when DD makes hers she does too which is great. I like Kale too but, that's a different recipe than throwing the spinach in.
I'm trying to drop some lbs myself and I'm also of the WW mentality (Core) that you can have as much veggies AND fruit as you want. The only rule with the fruit was you couldn't doctor it. For instance, you weren't supposed to peel the apple. Anyway, Core worked for me and I didn't deprive myself of fruit or veggies that entire time.
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Here's the info she just sent over....
Below is some info on smoothies – links to sites as a starting point, including recipes. The challenge with smoothies is that they can be very calorie dense depending on what you add to them. Smoothies are a great weight loss tool if you are exclusively eating raw or doing only smoothies. You have to be more careful with calorie intake if you are using them as a meal replacement. The very best ones for weight loss are green smoothies with only a bit of fruit and some source of protein. I steer clear of soy, but I have issues with it. I use things like spirulina, chia seeds, nut butters and a raw vegan protein powder to bump up protein percentages if needed. The biggest thing is making sure it’s a balanced smoothie or you’re going to be hungry.
Young and Raw Smoothie Challenge – Their 30 challenge is free, but is about adding one green smoothie a day to your diet. They have great recipes and information.
· Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/30daygreensmoothiechallenge/?ref=ts&fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/groups/30daygreensmoothiechallenge/?ref=ts&fref=ts)
· Website: http://www.youngandraw.com/ (http://www.youngandraw.com/)
· Weight loss smoothie category on their website: http://www.youngandraw.com/tag/weight-loss-smoothies/ (http://www.youngandraw.com/tag/weight-loss-smoothies/)
Prevention
· http://www.prevention.com/weight-loss/flat-belly-diet/smoothies-weight-loss-flat-belly-smoothie-diet-recipes/mango-smoothie-surprise (http://www.prevention.com/weight-loss/flat-belly-diet/smoothies-weight-loss-flat-belly-smoothie-diet-recipes/mango-smoothie-surprise)
Super Skinny Me
· http://www.superskinnyme.com/smoothie-recipes.html (http://www.superskinnyme.com/smoothie-recipes.html)
Reboot with Joe
· http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/ (http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/)
Joe Cross is the man behind Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead. The site is based on juicing, not smoothies, but there are some great recipes on the site for smoothies that are worth checking out.
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Vitamix is QVC's TSV...I'm watching the program right now. 4/14 till midnight.
5 easy payments, free s&h.
My finger is twitching on the BUY NOW button.
:skeered:
:yikes:
:roll:
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Vitamix is QVC's TSV...I'm watching the program right now. 4/14 till midnight.
5 easy payments, free s&h.
My finger is twitching on the BUY NOW button.
:skeered:
:yikes:
:roll:
:D
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Done!!!!
Ordered it in cinnamon....mmmm, cinnamon.
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Done!!!!
Ordered it in cinnamon....mmmm, cinnamon.
:sidesplit:
Mazel tov!
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Squeeeeeal!
UPS tracking has my new toy on the truck for delivery by 4pm today.
:roll:
What should I make first?
What supplies should I run out and get this afternoon?
:panic:
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Eeee!!!
Fruit. Yogurt. Spinach.
That's what I did, anyway. :D
I need to try something else other than this in my vitamix. :D
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I always stock:
Greek plain yogurt, fresh strawberries, almond milk, almonds, kale, spinach, frozen blueberries, beans (canned and dry), garlic, bananas, Vietnamese cinnamon, blah blah.
I need to pick up raw sesame seeds for making hummus.
Also plan on picking up fresh lemons (probably at Aldi's.)
Probably some peanuts to make lovely peanut butter.
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I always stock:
Greek plain yogurt, fresh strawberries, almond milk, almonds, kale, spinach, frozen blueberries, beans (canned and dry), garlic, bananas, Vietnamese cinnamon, blah blah.
mix that all up in the blender for your first shake. Vitamix is magic. It will be delicious. :d
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mix that all up in the blender for your first shake. Vitamix is magic. It will be delicious. :d
What kind of beans do you put in there???????
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Garbanzo...for hummus.
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Garbanzo...for hummus.
I think Diablita suggested beans in a shake...
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I saw that. :skeered:
I supposed if you doctored it up enough with fruit and/or yogurt, you'd never know they were there. :)
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I was being silly. The vitamix is good from what everyone here says, but it can't be that good...
On another note, "hummus" in Hebrew translates to "chickpea" in English or "garbanzo" in Spanish. I didn't realize that. I though "hummus" was the word for what we call hummus but it's not, it refers to the bean used in what we cal "hummus" (though they call the mix hummus as well).
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I was being silly. The vitamix is good from what everyone here says, but it can't be that good...
Well, I don't quite get the spinach and the greens in there, it does not sound any worse to put in beans. But the again, I like my greens so I do not have any need to hide them.
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I ordered a juicer and put it to use for the first time today:
1/2 a cucumber
2 stalks of celery
giant handful of spinach
1/2 green apple
~1" ginger
lemon juice
I was trying to replicate a recipe from a juice bar where I used to live... did an okay job! It was a bit heavy on the ginger, but pretty tasty.
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Well, I don't quite get the spinach and the greens in there, it does not sound any worse to put in beans. But the again, I like my greens so I do not have any need to hide them.
I understand the desire to throw in the greens. I LOVE leafy greens so it's not tough for me to work them in. But I'm always delighted when I see something like wilted spinach in a place I wouldn't ordinarily expect it and with a food that I ordinarily think of as a splurge/unhealthy. So for example, I rarely order grilled cheese in a restaurant b/c even with sliced tomato it's not a super healthy choice. But if I find spinach (and other veggies) in it...and yet it still tastes like a grilled cheese (vs. a roasted veg sandwich) I'm delighted. It elevates my 'splurge'. not sure if this makes sense?
So I could see wanting to accomplish the same on your own in a smoothie.
But beans, while I love them, would not be something I'd throw in. I was joking when I wrote that. They add almost a meatiness for me when blended (e.g., white bean dip). When we were kids, the joke at bar mitzvahs was to throw all the food into a drink and find someone brave enough to eat it. That's what I was thinking of.
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I had sauteed spinach tonight, with onion, garlic, and myer lemon juice. Delicious!!
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mix that all up in the blender for your first shake. Vitamix is magic. It will be delicious. :d
:D
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Lily, thanks for posting all of that!! I have no time to do anything now, but my plan is to start excercising regularly and watching what I eat, when I get to Saudi. I bought the vitamix to be able to get more greens in my diet so I'll be looking at that stuff you posted later.
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Holy moly, today when we were at Costco, they were doing a vitamix demo, and I tried some lemon sorbet (that was green due to avocado and spinach) and holy crap, that was so good. I bought lemons and avocados because of it!!
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:D
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Holy moly, today when we were at Costco, they were doing a vitamix demo, and I tried some lemon sorbet (that was green due to avocado and spinach) and holy crap, that was so good. I bought lemons and avocados because of it!!
:rah:
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Holy moly, today when we were at Costco, they were doing a vitamix demo, and I tried some lemon sorbet (that was green due to avocado and spinach) and holy crap, that was so good. I bought lemons and avocados because of it!!
Sucker! :d
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Holy moly, today when we were at Costco, they were doing a vitamix demo, and I tried some lemon sorbet (that was green due to avocado and spinach) and holy crap, that was so good. I bought lemons and avocados because of it!!
Courtney - Can you post the recipe? I GTS'd the heck out of it and can't find anything like that.
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Of course!!
1 lemon (with 2/3 of the zest removed)
1/3 cup sweetener (sugar, agave nectar, stevia, whatever you prefer)
1 tsp vanilla extract
1/4 avocado
1 cup spinach
2 cups ice
Place ingredients in the vitamix in the order listed and set to frozen dessert.
So, my vitamix doesn't have pre-sets, so I'm going to look at the book I have for specifics, because there is a different sorbet recipe in there. And I'll probably cut back on the sugar. That seems like quite a bit to me.
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Thanks! :)
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Of course!!
1 lemon (with 2/3 of the zest removed)
1/3 cup sweetener (sugar, agave nectar, stevia, whatever you prefer)
1 tsp vanilla extract
1/4 avocado
1 cup spinach
2 cups ice
Place ingredients in the vitamix in the order listed and set to frozen dessert.
So, my vitamix doesn't have pre-sets, so I'm going to look at the book I have for specifics, because there is a different sorbet recipe in there. And I'll probably cut back on the sugar. That seems like quite a bit to me.
360 calories, using sugar (1/3 cup = 255 cal.).
over 400 calories using agave nectar. (1 tbsp. = 60 cal.)
This does not strike me as nutritious: more than 2/3 of the calories comes from sugar. I think I would rather have a double serving of coca-cola:
Nutrition Facts for Coca-Cola: Serving Size 8 fl oz (240.0 g)
Amount Per Serving: Calories 97
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360 calories, using sugar (1/3 cup = 255 cal.).
over 400 calories using agave nectar. (1 tbsp. = 60 cal.)
This does not strike me as nutritious: more than 2/3 of the calories comes from sugar. I think I would rather have a double serving of coca-cola:
Nutrition Facts for Coca-Cola: Serving Size 8 fl oz (240.0 g)
Amount Per Serving: Calories 97
But how many servings is that recipe supposed to make?
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But how many servings is that recipe supposed to make?
I was wondering that, too. If it's a sorbet, there should be enough for 4 people.
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360 calories, using sugar (1/3 cup = 255 cal.).
over 400 calories using agave nectar. (1 tbsp. = 60 cal.)
This does not strike me as nutritious: more than 2/3 of the calories comes from sugar. I think I would rather have a double serving of coca-cola:
Nutrition Facts for Coca-Cola: Serving Size 8 fl oz (240.0 g)
Amount Per Serving: Calories 97
I don't like coke, so I wouldn't choose that. :D
However, I'd definitely reduce the sugar. It was sodamngood, tho!!
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I don't like coke, so I wouldn't choose that. :D
Neither do I. I used to love coke, then I quit, and now I cannot stand it: so sugary sweet. I cannot understand that I was addicted to it.
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What should I make first?
What did you make first??
...being the rule-follower that I am, I started out with some of the straightforward, "getting started" recipes in the book of recipes that came with my Vitamix. Since then, I've branched out more with regard to making smoothies. (For the one soup I've made so far in it, I used one of the Vitamix recipes--potato, spinach, and chicken soup. It was very good, and so quick and easy!!)
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I was just considering trying that recipe this weeked, Ziggy. Good to hear!
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I made the hummus from the recipe book that came with the Vitamix.
Nummy!
Right now, I'm drinking a green smoothie....not from the book, just something fun:
(no fruit)
Almond milk
Spinach
Kale
Baby carrots
1/2 mini cucumber
1/3 of a lemon (peeled, cuz the peel was too thick and nasty)
Ice
Refreshing!!
I just got brain freeze...aaaaaack!
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The sound ( noise ) and power still throw me off, as if I'm doing something incorrectly.
Too scary! :skeered:
Soggy,
That soup recipe looked interesting. I hope to try it soon.
Aaaccck brain freeze agin! :yikes:
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The sound ( noise ) and power still throw me off, as if I'm doing something incorrectly.
To scary! :skeered:
Soggy,
That soup recipe looked interesting. I hope to try it soon.
Aaaccck brain freeze agin! :yikes:
Actually, I was a little surprised that it's not as loud as I expected it to be (I guess, with a 2HP motor, I was expecting it to sound more like an outboard motor)!
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So I made lemon sorbet tonight. Yum!! I cut the sugar back a ton. 2 tbsp instead of 1/3 cup. So good. DH was even impressed.
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this evening's smoothie : 1/2 banana, large handful blueberries, 1 T peanut butter, 2/3 c yogurt, honey, ice
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I don't use mine for smoothies (maybe will do a pineapple sorbet this summer though) but did make a kick ass salad dressing tonight ...
Lots of fresh basil
2 small garlic cloves
Juice from 1.5 lemons and some rind (they were small)
about 1/4c (maybe more) sesame seeds
Glug olive oil
Dash sesame oil
Glug rice wine vinegar
T cider vinegar
Salt
Water (it tasted perfect but was too thick)
It sounds funny but tasted like a basil tahini lemon dressing and with the vitamix was super smooth. I am loving the sesame seed crushing powers.
Did a baba/hummus mix too that was only okay. The eggplant gave it an odd texture. Really good baba just requires a lot more oil than I'm willing to use and without it somehow the eggplant "jells"?
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Kale and blueberries together produce something that, while tasty, looks too much like baby poo for me to eat.
Kale and mango are much better, bright green with a hint of sweet.