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Indirect impact of a bib swap
Coyote Mas Loco:
The annual state road race rankings came out the other day and I was bumped down a place lower than expected. The time was outstanding for my age group, just over 34 for 10K at 5000 ft elevation. That's a top 10 all time USA mark as it is, and factoring for altitude it would be top 3. I'm not sure what the all time state record for the age is, but this would probably be a record. It was at a very big pro/citizens race. Never heard of the runner so I looked at race results and start photos and sure enough, the runner with that bib number looks to be in his early-mid 20s, not mid 50s.
Sigh. I know some here would bring out the pitch forks, torches, and boiling oil. I would not report this but you're talking record setting level and some random guy doesn't deserve to be on the books as the all time best for his age at 10K. So I'll copy the start photo and send it into the RD. We'll see what they say. If they don't act, it's going to Marathon Investigations.
RandMart:
That sucks, Wilson
The important question is: were double letters involved in any way?
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Sure enough, double letters
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I find the double letters thing increasingly troubling, as my last name has double letters in it.
Does that mean I am doomed to repeat the fate of those with double letters and should give in to the inevitable and start getting on gear?
Or is it more "not all people with double letters are cheaters, but all cheaters have double letters"?
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Coyote Mas Loco:
Indeed they were. Came out of wave BB (6th wave). My guess is a college age son used his dad's bib. Or maybe just bought it off the dark web.
--- Quote from: RandMart on November 13, 2017, 09:47:15 AM ---That sucks, Wilson
The important question is: were double letters involved in any way?
Sure enough, double letters
I find the double letters thing increasingly troubling, as my last name has double letters in it.
Does that mean I am doomed to repeat the fate of those with double letters and should give in to the inevitable and start getting on gear?
Or is it more "not all people with double letters are cheaters, but all cheaters have double letters"?
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RandMart:
If Dad gave his kid the bib and said "Go get me a Top Ten," that's more of a "bib mule" situation than a simple swap
I think a bib swap is just to get into a race that's sold out, instead totally banditting, whereas a bib mule takes [or is given] a person's bib to run for a BQ or AG podium [making sure the person gets the right bib back before the awards]
YMMV
Coyote Mas Loco:
Can only speculate on what happened. A number of scenarios. Anyway, it's done I sent in a letter with the result linked in, the improbability of the result from an unknown runner, and 2 pictures from the start showing a young man (looking remarkably like Kemibe did 20 years ago!) heading off line. We'll see what they say.
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