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Further reflection - I'm guessing that you believe a HIM is easier than a marathon which I find interesting. Does that conclusion imply the intensity you would run a marathon and therefore the toll that it would exact would be greater than the variety and bike segment of the HIM which you find less taxing?The other thing that would factor into an individuals assessment is the swim which would stop many before they even got started.
I'm just gonna recuse myself, here
Yes, maybe I shouldn't have made that statement.I kind of didn't want to weigh in..but darn no votes.And I agree with all your assessments 100%... and yet, wonder if we come to opposite conclusions...
A marathon is 26.2 miles of running. A full Ironman is that plus a shitload of bicycling and swimming, correct? What am I missing?
BQ is JV level. Try sub 2:50, 2:40, 2:30, 2:20. i.e., I would say a sub 15 5K (17 for women) is tougher to do than just finishing a marathon (or BQing) or dong a tri.
Huh. IM hands down. I’m not brave enough to ever try one.
The original question is loaded by not being qualified. At what level are you talking about? I suppose if you are talking about a relatively same level of performance then the IM is tougher because the effort is 3-4 times longer than a full marathon. Takes talent and years of hard work to run a fast 5K. BQs are at the 65-70% age grade level. Just finishing an IM tri would be hard but it's doable if you have the time and resources to train for it. So my point is higher performance level is more difficult to achieve--therefore harder--than finishing event. OT marathon qualifier is >>>> more difficult than IM finish in 14 hours or a BQ.
Well duh. Colleen derueck is not doing 14 hours for her ironmans, more like 10-10:30, pretty sure she has a few OT under her belt. Maybe I should just ask her.😜
what? Did I instigate some controversy?not over analyzing - but a bit of context does matter--otherwise it's all pretty much a wash.
It's a loaded question, depending on how you define 'more difficult'. I don't know if I agree with the degree of difficulty based on speed argument. You could say that you get X many more difficulty points for running 2:30 than for 4 hours, but Eliud Kipchoge could drop a 2:30 in his sleep. You can't say that that's more difficult for him than the first-timer who started running to lose weight, or many others in similar circumstances who run 4 hour marathons and collapse in exhaustion at the end. So many variables to think about including raw talent, mental toughness, duration of stress, etc. You could argue that devoted training could factor into the degree of difficulty when you look at the top tier kenyans, but a lot of folks who log similar hours per week have a much slower top gear. It's not that the kenyans just have more willpower. As far as the OP, on the surface it seems like a silly argument. You're talking about something taxing, vs. the same taxing thing plus a bunch of other stuff on top of it. Unless you're using a similar thought process to runners who say that a 5k is a lot tougher than an ultra because you're in top gear during a 5k vs. a casual stroll in an ultra....like the letsrun argument I see sometimes that guys like haile gebrselassie should've just jumped into 100 milers because they could annihilate all the course records by several hours. Of course there are a lot more variables to consider for a 100 miler than for a 5k or even a marathon. You're talking about doing something physically taxing for up to 24 hours and beyond, sleep deprivation, possible organ failure, your bowels in full mutiny, hitting multiple 'walls' before you're even halfway, etc. So again, defining difficulty over a single metric like how fast you're going doesn't hold up.
You could argue that devoted training could factor into the degree of difficulty when you look at the top tier kenyans, but a lot of folks who log similar hours per week have a much slower top gear. It's not that the kenyans just have more willpower.
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