Olympic Trials Marathon women's preview - 5 months out

[diablita]

Do you guys know about the Clean Sport Collective?  I like what they're trying to do and have started listening to their podcast.  (a rabbit hole I reached thanks to Wilson's original Rogue recommendation)

[RandMart]

I ain't paying to read

I was wondering why he posted the whole article

You're a good man, Wilson

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Do you guys know about the Clean Sport Collective?  I like what they're trying to do and have started listening to their podcast.  (a rabbit hole I reached thanks to Wilson's original Rogue recommendation)

I've heard about it of course, with the Jenny Simpson interview the other month, but haven't listened.
(and did you see my note the daily thread a few days back that Steve Sisson has started up his new podcast--again). He's kind of out there these days, talking metaphysics and mind-body-spirit but it's interesting so far).

[diablita]

Oh interesting.  I must have missed that.  I may give it a listen though I'm a bigger fan of Chris.

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Since mid-summer I feel RR has drifted a bit and I think JoJo should be his regular sidekick. She's great.

[nadra's babydaddy]

The Gwen Jorgensen thread that bumped up this week got me to thinking about who looks ready and who is struggling now. Five months to go. The Trials will be in Atlanta, GA. The latest news is that the top 3 go (no IAAF time qualifiers needed now), and that the organizers smoothed out the course, taking out some of the turns and large hills. So it should be a faster race.

The favorites by qualifying time
Jordan Hasay   2:20:57   A   Bank of America Chicago Marathon   Chicago, IL   10/8/2017   Yes
Amy Cragg   2:21:42   A   Tokyo Marathon   Tokyo, JPN   2/24/2018   
Sara Hall     2:22:16    Motherfucking Berlin  9/29/2019  YESYESYES
Emily Sisson   2:23:08   A   Virgin Money London Marathon   London, UK   4/28/2019   Yes
Kellyn Taylor   2:24:29   A   Grandma's Marathon   Duluth, MN   6/16/2018   Yes
Sara Hall   2:26:19   A   Scotiabank Ottawa Marathon   Ottawa, CAN   5/27/2018   
Shalane Flanagan   2:26:22   A   TCS New York City Marathon   New York, NY   11/4/2018   
Molly Huddle   2:26:33   A   Virgin Money London Marathon   London, UK   4/28/2019   Yes
Aliphine Tuliamuk   2:26:50   A   NN Marathon Rotterdam   Rotterdam, NLD   4/7/2019   Yes
Desiree Linden   2:27:00   A   BAA Boston Marathon   Boston, MA   4/15/2019   Yes
Nell Rojas   2:28:07   A   Grandma's Marathon   Duluth, MN   6/22/2019   Yes
Allie Kieffer   2:28:12   A   TCS New York City Marathon   New York, NY   11/4/2018   
Emma Bates   2:28:19   A   California International Marathon   Sacramento, CA   12/2/2018   
Roberta Groner   2:29:09   A   NN Marathon Rotterdam   Rotterdam, NLD   4/7/2019   Yes
Stephanie Bruce   2:29:21   A   California International Marathon   Sacramento, CA   12/2/2018   
Lindsay Flanagan   2:29:25   A   Frankfurt Marathon   Mainova, Frankfurt   10/28/2018   Yes

[Coyote Mas Loco]

FIFY

The favorites by qualifying time
Jordan Hasay   2:20:57   A   Bank of America Chicago Marathon   Chicago, IL   10/8/2017   Yes
Amy Cragg   2:21:42   A   Tokyo Marathon   Tokyo, JPN   2/24/2018   
Sara MFing Hall     2:22:16    Motherfucking Berlin  9/29/2019  YESYESYES
Emily Sisson   2:23:08   A   Virgin Money London Marathon   London, UK   4/28/2019   Yes
Kellyn Taylor   2:24:29   A   Grandma's Marathon   Duluth, MN   6/16/2018   Yes
Sally Kipyego  2:25:10  Berlin 9/29/2019
Sara Hall   2:26:19   A   Scotiabank Ottawa Marathon   Ottawa, CAN   5/27/2018  
Shalane Flanagan   2:26:22   A   TCS New York City Marathon   New York, NY   11/4/2018   
Molly Huddle   2:26:33   A   Virgin Money London Marathon   London, UK   4/28/2019   Yes
Aliphine Tuliamuk   2:26:50   A   NN Marathon Rotterdam   Rotterdam, NLD   4/7/2019   Yes
Desiree Linden   2:27:00   A   BAA Boston Marathon   Boston, MA   4/15/2019   Yes
Nell Rojas   2:28:07   A   Grandma's Marathon   Duluth, MN   6/22/2019   Yes
Allie Kieffer   2:28:12   A   TCS New York City Marathon   New York, NY   11/4/2018   
Emma Bates   2:28:19   A   California International Marathon   Sacramento, CA   12/2/2018   
Roberta Groner   2:29:09   A   NN Marathon Rotterdam   Rotterdam, NLD   4/7/2019   Yes
Stephanie Bruce   2:29:21   A   California International Marathon   Sacramento, CA   12/2/2018   
Lindsay Flanagan   2:29:25   A   Frankfurt Marathon   Mainova, Frankfurt   10/28/2018   Yes

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Update time

The favorites by qualifying time
Jordan Hasay   2:20:57   A   Bank of America Chicago Marathom
Coach Salazar banned, NOP is done, and DNF at Chicago. Bad week for Jordan

Amy Cragg   2:21:42   A   Tokyo Marathon   Tokyo, JPN   2/24/2018   
Sarah Hall 2:22 at Berlin and USA 10 mile champion (53 minutes) on a roll!
Emily Sisson   2:23:08   A   Virgin Money London Marathon   London, UK   4/28/2019   Yes
Kellyn Taylor   2:24:29   A
Bates, Emma (USA) 2:25:27 at Chicago - a real favorite now

Shalane Flanagan   2:26:22   A   TCS New York City Marathon   New York, NY   11/4/2018   
Molly Huddle   2:26:33   A   Virgin Money London Marathon   London, UK   4/28/2019   Yes
Aliphine Tuliamuk   2:26:50   A   NN Marathon Rotterdam   Rotterdam, NLD   4/7/2019   Yes
Desiree Linden   2:27:00   A   BAA Boston Marathon   Boston, MA   4/15/2019   Yes
Stephanie Bruce   2:27:47   2019 Chicago Marathon
Nell Rojas   2:28:07   A   Grandma's Marathon   Duluth, MN   6/22/2019   Yes
Allie Kieffer   2:28:12   A   TCS New York City Marathon   New York, NY   11/4/2018    Injured again
 
Roberta Groner   2:29:09   A   NN Marathon Rotterdam   Rotterdam, NLD   4/7/2019   41 year old mother of 3 was 6th at World Championships1

Lindsay Flanagan   2:28:08   Chicago 2019, solid PR
Laura Thweatt        2:29:06 Chicago 2019, on a comeback
Taylor Ward           2:30:14 Chicago 2019
Sarah Sellers         2:31:49 2018 surprise Boston runner up with a 4 minute PR.

[diablita]

Insane performance from Sarah Hall.  I can't believe she's now going to run NYC and then try to make the team.

[nadra's babydaddy]

When you're in a groove you're in a groove!  She seems to go for these high intensity race batches and lately has been crushing all of them.  If she rolls at both Berlin and then NYC over two totally different course types that'll be a hell of a confidence builder.    She'll still have a 16 week cycle to work with as well.  Unless she also jumps into CIM for shits and giggles 

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Sarah Hall has got it dialed in. And Ryan coaches her better than he did himself. It's more the old school approach, all those fast big-time dudes in the 70s (Shorter, Rodgers, Greg Meyer) raced a lot and had fairly long careers. 

[nadra's babydaddy]

She seems to be able to handle the higher volume racing better than he was.  Seems like he was always battling some-or-another injury, with a few flashes of brilliance thrown in like the sub 2:05 in that crazy year in Boston.  So hopefully she holds up through the winter.  It's all about properly timed flashes of brilliance!

[Coyote Mas Loco]

She seems to be able to handle the higher volume racing better than he was.  Seems like he was always battling some-or-another injury, with a few flashes of brilliance thrown in like the sub 2:05 in that crazy year in Boston.  So hopefully she holds up through the winter.  It's all about properly timed flashes of brilliance!

He ran by feel, followed a very hard training schedule, and raced on emotion. So if he had a workout written down, he'd do it no matter what, and if he felt good in a race or workout he hammered. Sarah listens to her body and if she needs an easy day or a day off she'll do that. Running Rogue had a good podcast interview with Ryan earlier this year, maybe March or April.

[nadra's babydaddy]

Someone better be watching the lead pack like a hawk if we're going by double letters...

Sarah HaLL
Amy CraGG
Emily SiSSon
KeLLyn Taylor
EMMa Bates

Ironically the only top seed of the bunch who doesn't fit the bill is Jordan Hasay and well, enough said about that clusterfuck

 

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Actually worth its own thread.

Oh, and a men's OT hopefuls thread is coming up. That story got a whole lot more interesting this past weekend, and one more coming up with Leonard Korir making his debut in Amsterdam this weekend.

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Um

https://www.instagram.com/p/B34cW4kgzMt/?igshid=ii89zvapgbma

yeah, like I can predict the future

[diablita]

Allie shared today that she has a navicular stress reaction.  Not sure what this will mean for her shot but she may not have one now at all.

[Coyote Mas Loco]

That's too bad, and it pretty much knocks her out of the equation for even a top 10 finish at the Trials. She's been one of the more colorful characters on the marathon/road circuit in the past few years. Get healthy and fight it out another day, maybe something like next June at Grandma's in Duluth or at a fall marathon. If she tries to come back for the Trials or Boston she'll probably just end up right back on the injury wagon.

[diablita]

Gwen Jorgensen is out

She's concentrating on the 1ok and maybe 5k, not enough time between surgery and the trials for the marathon

[Coyote Mas Loco]

Jorgensen is better at the 10K anyway, and paid a price for too much too soon with the marathon training last year and the year before. If she can stay healthy she'll be in the mix for top 5 or 6 and maybe even for an at-large spot. Because if Sisson or Huddle or both make the marathon team then there is a good chance they would either give up their 10K position or even choose to run that in the Olympic track trials.