CH Runners

Running => Running => Topic started by: Coyote Mas Loco on February 09, 2019, 10:02:31 PM

Title: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Coyote Mas Loco on February 09, 2019, 10:02:31 PM
I'm not usually a huge fan of indoor track but will take in a few meets a year. This year's Millrose Games in NYC were amazing, with American some records and near world records.

Hope that Kemoy Campbell who collapsed while pacing the men's 3000 is okay. Didn't look good at the time, as he was said to be not breathing. Updates indicate that he's in the ICU at Columbia. 
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Coyote Mas Loco on February 10, 2019, 08:00:46 AM
Update on Campbell, he made it through the night but is in serious condition. Columbia has one of the best cardiac units in the country.
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Coyote Mas Loco on February 10, 2019, 09:48:39 AM
How good was this meet? Really good.

Ethiopian Kejelcha (now with NOP so take your stand there) just missed the world record in the mile by 0.01. Had he leaned at the tape he might have made it. 3:48.46.

New American records in the 800 by Ajee Wilson (1:58.6) and Donovan Brazier (1:44.4).

And a German star is born. Konstanze Klosterhalfen (nicknamed KoKo) 21 years old from Germany, also training with NOP but coached by Pete Julian not AlSal, broke 4:20 in the mile 4:19.98 (6th best in history) while a whole bunch of American women ran PBs (Quigly in 4:22, and Kate Grace ran 4:24). 

Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: nadra's babydaddy on February 10, 2019, 03:52:05 PM
 :runner:

There was a stretch in the mid 2000s where I went to the Boston Indoor Games a few years in a row.  Saw lots of great stuff!  Haile, Kenny B, Shalane, Maurice Greene, Tirunesh Dibaba set a couple world records, Regina Jacobs :d .  They know how to bring the talent for sure. 

Hope the dude who collapsed is okay.  Congrats to the other dopers!  :smokin:
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Coyote Mas Loco on February 10, 2019, 08:09:48 PM
probably not even worth it posting about pro running here, little or no interest
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 10, 2019, 10:08:34 PM
We had two main indoor arena meets around here.  The Hamilton Spectator Games is now just a high school meet.  The other one, the Toronto Star indoor games has been defunct for a couple of decades.  Guess the fact that both were mainly sponsored by newspapers that are struggling in the internet age doesn't help.

The last time I was at an indoor track meet was the The IAAF World Indoor Championships at Toronto's Skydome in 1996.  The last big indoor track meet in Toronto was the 1997 - Donovan Bailey vs Michael Johnson 150m match for the title of the "Worlds Fastest Man,"  where MJ pulled up lame after 100M. 

1997 - Donovan Bailey vs Michael Johnson 150m (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFcjJezL7lo#)


Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: diablita on February 11, 2019, 09:48:02 AM
probably not even worth it posting about pro running here, little or no interest

I follow a little
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: nadra's babydaddy on February 11, 2019, 12:59:01 PM
MEMEMEIMINTERESTED!!!  Admittedly I'm not as excited by track (especially indoor) as I once was unless it's olympics/world championships.  But yes, still preferable to nascar.  And powerpoints about ending relationships  :specs:
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Coyote Mas Loco on February 11, 2019, 01:54:43 PM
Indoor is usually only semi-interesting. In descending order these meets have some significance in the US - World Championships, USAs, Millrose. Other than that a scattering of performances of note. I do follow some college indoor running to see who's up and coming. But even at it's best it's about like pre-season football. There can be some great races but in 2-3 months and for the rest of the year these events usually don't mean very much.
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: nadra's babydaddy on February 11, 2019, 04:59:05 PM
I feel really out of touch with the high school scene too.  Back in the day I could've rattled off all the top ranked runners nationally and locally and that they ran X time at X meet for X place.  Now I don't know anybody except for a handful of local studs.  And the Utah kids are difficult to follow because they graduate high school and promptly disappear for 2 years on their mormon missions (where they're not allowed to do...basically anything except churchy stuff) after which it takes a while to return to form if they do continue with running.  I really do need to get into coaching! 
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 12, 2019, 10:23:02 AM
They're giving out Stanley Cups to Millrose Games winners?

(http://www.nyrr.org/sites/default/files/styles/rfl-testimonial-712x385/public/nyrr-photo-album/2017/Gal9-CX7O1731.jpg?itok=LkX2ntmH)
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Arrojo on February 12, 2019, 09:57:16 PM
My friends and Mass Velocity teammates Steve Snow, Tucker Taft, Roger Pierce, and Stephen Gould won the 60+ 4 x 400 relay. Roger is actually 73.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190213/f1de914cbbd95ca85456422431afaf28.jpg)
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Arrojo on February 12, 2019, 10:21:14 PM
And our women’s 50+ 4x400 won as well, including Diane Pierce (Roger’s wife), 2nd from left, running with an artificial knee,

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190213/be049d8595967f92606a9ba965718f94.jpg)
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: diablita on February 13, 2019, 09:44:57 AM
Wow, so great Arrojo!
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: SnarlyMarly on February 14, 2019, 11:34:35 AM
Nobody’s looks their age.


Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Richard21142 on February 14, 2019, 02:58:15 PM
I just finished watching it and thought it was a much better than usual indoor meet.  I thought Murphy looked really good in the mile setting a PR; and a CT woman running for Penn State ran a PR 4:29.  Ajee Wilson set an American record despite a stumble late in the race. 
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Coyote Mas Loco on February 14, 2019, 03:36:14 PM
Those masters in the 4X4 ran some fast times!
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Fred on February 22, 2019, 06:06:34 PM
59.34 Guido Müller  GER 22.12.1938 Lahti 28.07.2009
1:00.77 Hugh Coogan  AUS 15.08.1935 Nathan 01.04.2006
1:01.00 Robert Lida  USA 11.11.1936 Riccione 04.09.2007
1:01.01 Ralph Romain  TRI 20.07.1932 Carolina 12.07.2003
1:01.10 Jim Selby  USA 18.07.1928 La Jolla 19.06.1999
1:01.29 Wilhelm Selzer  GER 07.05.1927 Schweinfurt 15.08.1997
1:01.31 i Earl Fee  CAN 22.03.1929 Boston 27.03.1999
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Coyote Mas Loco on February 23, 2019, 08:21:58 AM
59.34 Guido Müller  GER 22.12.1938 Lahti 28.07.2009
1:00.77 Hugh Coogan  AUS 15.08.1935 Nathan 01.04.2006
1:01.00 Robert Lida  USA 11.11.1936 Riccione 04.09.2007
1:01.01 Ralph Romain  TRI 20.07.1932 Carolina 12.07.2003
1:01.10 Jim Selby  USA 18.07.1928 La Jolla 19.06.1999
1:01.29 Wilhelm Selzer  GER 07.05.1927 Schweinfurt 15.08.1997
1:01.31 i Earl Fee  CAN 22.03.1929 Boston 27.03.1999

Hey Fred good to see you - (check out some of the USATF age grade lists from 2018!) ;)
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Fred on February 23, 2019, 10:34:43 AM
Hey Fred good to see you - (check out some of the USATF age grade lists from 2018!) ;)

Fantastic Roger. You beat Pilcher, and won the U.S. 8k ( 5 mile champs ). Plus 3 seconds slower than Norm Green who trained at 5;30 mile pace, and top 4 in the world ever at 60.
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Fred on February 23, 2019, 10:36:49 AM
How many miles a week? What speed at what altitude? Diet? How much on skis at various altitudes?

Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Fred on February 23, 2019, 10:41:54 AM
My HR right now is 51. What's yours? What was your HR sitting in a chair at sea level. Do you ever get blood work done for iron supplies and red blood cells.
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Fred on February 23, 2019, 10:44:36 AM
Do you do mile repeats and tempo. At what altitude? Can you drop down to a valley floor to do speed.
Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Coyote Mas Loco on February 24, 2019, 10:29:03 AM
Fred, let's see, in sort of reverse order to your questions.

I do CV (critical velocity) repeats at ~ altitude 8K effort, so 5:55 to 6:00 pace usually. reps 2-5 minutes. Miles are scary at that effort! Tempo runs at 6:10 to 6:30 pace depending on how long I'm going (about 20-50 minutes of tempo each week). Pick ups at least 2X a week. And I'll finish workouts with a few fast sprints/stride outs/or short hill sprints.

Run some at 7500 to 8000 but usually 5500-6000. Live at 7500 (that's really helped). XC ski 10X to 15X a year at 9000. Too far to drive, but wish I could do a little more. Might take a 2 month season and do some ski marathons next year to break it up.

Mid-low 40s hr, early am and resting.

Diet, have inborn high cholesterol and was pre-diabetic a couple years ago, so egg whites, oatmeal, salmon, lots of salads, whole grain carbs, etc. I eat a lot but seem to run it off. Right at my post college weight and 8-10lb lighter than I was in late 30s, 40s, 50s. Wine/beer and diet coke are my vices. But try to limit those to a couple time a week.

60-low 70s mpw for HM and under, with cut back weeks to 45-55 when I have a bigger race. Up to 80s for marathon, but only do one every couple years on average.

Doing WMAs next month, planning on XC and half marathon. 
 

Title: Re: Millrose Games thread
Post by: Fred on February 25, 2019, 03:09:49 PM
Thanks Rog. That was informative. Best continued good luck and deliberations.